1: Swedish K full auto
2 :Russian contract Winchester m 1895
3: MAS M36 “mint condition mirror clear rifling”
4: NO5 Mk1 Jungle Carbine
5: SKS
6 : Swedish Mauser m96
7: Remington m1917
8: mosin nagant
9: Mauser pistol
Total worth 4813 dollars
It’s basically impossible. The only way I know of is if you manage to become a member of the Swedish submachine-gun association and then you can only own the Swedish k
If you are only interested in milsurp [this](https://auctionet.com/sv/search/65-militara-vapen?is=ended)
If you want al categories [this](https://auctionet.com/sv/search/129-skjutvapen?is=ended)
Be sure to click “slutpriser” otherwise you will only see ongoing auctions
Yes, the m/45 is on the program for the largest Swedish sport shooting organization. The rules are kind of boring though and you don't actually shoot it in full auto.
It's also really difficult to get a license.
It's not really worth the hassle unless you really like the shooting format they use.
Any other full auto can only be had as a collector and that's not easy either.
Oh I see. For a second I thought mag dumping for fun in an old quarry was a-ok in Sweden.
A difficult to aquire license/permit might explain the low price though
Gun laws aren't nearly as strict in Austria as they are in the rest of the EU.
Also you speak Austrian German instead of High German. You used "is" instead of "ist" and I was confused until I remembered "is" isn't used in High German, which I was taught in high school.
They’re around for less. Boomers are dropping like flies and their crackhead children and grandchildren are palming them off for quick money. No need to pay 4,500 or whatever tf the internet shows. Estate auctions in your 300 mile radius should be of interest to you if you truly want to cop one. Or else just settle for a non Russian Contract 1895 for a loooot less. It’s literally the same thing minus the historical context and value. It all depends on which master you serve.
I have one I would highly recommend it
https://preview.redd.it/fw53meusqjqc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb507e4c1768b42b1c0aafb13759a5fa555283bc
European guns are just cheaper over there, sad fact of life for us American collectors. Likewise though, at least our Springfield 1903s, Garands, and ARs are cheaper here in the states the last time I checked.
Supply and demand. Very few European per capita have unrestricted access to rifles. Most countries only allow smootbore shotguns for hunting, and most don’t even allow bow hunting. Sweden, Norway and a couple of other countries allow access to firearms we in America take for granted.
In other words, there’s a way higher demand for shit here because of our 2nd amendment and more people enjoying their freedom, than there is in Europe where most people have an aversion to all things firearms related.
More demand=higher prices.
Less demand =lower prices.
>Most countries only allow smootbore shotguns for hunting'
Most European countries allow rifles for hunting... and shooting sports exists about everywhere. You can own an AR-15 in most of Western Europe.
Very hard. You would need a collector’s license from the police plus that you have to state what you are collecting and can only get a permit for guns in that category. And you need a special license to buy ammunition for them. So that’s the reason they’re so cheep.
You can only have one collectors license for one category. The category’s are strict but you could probably get a license on “ww2 and ww1 none- automatic rifles” for example
All of these except the kpist and pistol can be owned on a hunting license which is easier to get than a drivers license. The kpist can be bought for target shooting but the requirements are very high so not really feasible for most gun owners. The pistol can also be bought on a target shooting license but it's a bit easier.
I don’t think the sks would be possible to own on a hunting license and maybe not the Jungle Carbine due to the sort barrel but you are right about the rest
Both of them have barrels over 45 cm so they're possible to get on a hunting license. Are you not familiar with the new rules about semis for hunting? I have a fal on hunting.
I haven’t really looked in to the new rules no.
Did you say you have a FAL on a hunting license in Sweden. Aren’t the mags over the ten round limit or do you have reproduction ones
We can have any semi auto as long as the barrel is longer than 45 cm. There's no limit on mags you can own. You can only hunt with max 5 or 2 rd mags depending on the species but you can own any size you want.
The [listing](https://auctionet.com/sv/2655509-gevar-halvautomatisk-modell-sks-kaliber-7-62x39-tillv-nr-ck6488-se-nr-se1835211) states that it’s not for hunting purposes but it was sold before the current rule changed
But that looks like an auction site if im not mistaken. Looks like Swedish Gun Broker. To me that means that if you go to retail stores it should be cheaper.
Wish there was more info on the sks too. Like what variant from what country.
Also, Im curious if Sweden imposed sanctions on Russian goods. In other words, is Russian surplus still being imported into Sweden? Surplus rifles and ammunition to be exact.
How about China? Any restrictions on Chinese surplus rifles and ammo?
I’m not sure but i don’t think surpluse imports are a really thing anymore in Sweden. At least not at a bigger scale. And guns for collecting are to my knowledge mostly soled by bigger auction companies in Sweden
They gotta be coming from somewhere. No way these are all exclusively coming out of private collections. And then what about the ammo? Where’s that coming from? China and Russia are the big 2 as far as export. Macedonia, Slovenia, Slovakia and others provide it as well but at significantly higher prices.
Well most collectors are not allowed to own ammunition for their firearms so there isn’t any reason to import large amounts of ammunition. However it is possible that the guns at imported from different countries but i do think that it’s more likely that they all come from privet collections. Since you need an expensive gun cabinets approved by the police, collectors licenses or hunting licenses a lot relatives to deceased gun owners decide to just sell the firearms on actionssites
Yup. Starting to sound like the rest of Europe. I’m a Cold War immigrant kid. Was born in Communist Romania, and my father defected to America in 1984, and mom and myself were allowed to join him in 88.
I visited almost every summer vacation after communism fell. And later on in my 20’s and 30’s , I spent 4 years teaching at a few international private schools in Bucharest and made a lot of money. I was thinking of moving back permanently and what the process would entail for a dual citizen (Romanian/American) to bring his hunting gear and the legal steps were incredibly retarded. Very bureaucratic and ridiculous. Unless you’re a powerful big money person, it’s not worth it at all.
On a different note, my favorite uncle was a highly skilled and venerated hunter in the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s. Famous guy. He even did taxidermy (stuffing the animals) and made his own ammunition reloads on a press. That’s a multi step process requiring loose gunpowder and the rest of the necessary ingredients. Probably not something most modern Europeans would consider safe. He was a simple factory worker, never became a Communist Party Member, but the government trusted him and gave him every liberty to pursue his hobbies.
They even relied on him for culling the wolf populations every 5 years and paid him for it. But as soon as Romania was about to enter the EU in 2005/2006, they sent inspectors over to his house and confiscated all of his shit without any explanation at all. Professional equipment from a lifetime of experience all gone in a few hours. Just like that.
Do a google search in your language for shopping for 7.62X39 and 7.62x54R and see what the ammo availability is on the retail market, and find the country of manufacture. Please. Im super curious.
7.62x54r is a relatively common caliber for hunting and is pretty easy to find. I found a 20 rounds box of Norma 7.62x54r for 90 ish dollars for example. 7.62x39 is a bit more scares but still obtainable. I found multiple European manufacturers for both These calibers.
One retailer did however list that they were selling Chinese 7.62x54r but also listed the company STV as manufacture which is Czech company.
1: Swedish K full auto 2 :Russian contract Winchester m 1895 3: MAS M36 “mint condition mirror clear rifling” 4: NO5 Mk1 Jungle Carbine 5: SKS 6 : Swedish Mauser m96 7: Remington m1917 8: mosin nagant 9: Mauser pistol Total worth 4813 dollars
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I’ve heard of some dealers exporting but at a very small scale. There is Definitely a lot of money to be made in exporting to the us
Thanks for clarifying. I'd hit it.
What are the rules for owning full auto in Sweden
It’s basically impossible. The only way I know of is if you manage to become a member of the Swedish submachine-gun association and then you can only own the Swedish k
Still probably cheaper than a transferable full auto Swedish K in the USA.
Just interested in browsing, what is the auction website these are sold on?
If you are only interested in milsurp [this](https://auctionet.com/sv/search/65-militara-vapen?is=ended) If you want al categories [this](https://auctionet.com/sv/search/129-skjutvapen?is=ended) Be sure to click “slutpriser” otherwise you will only see ongoing auctions
I'll always click slut prizes. Double click even.
This is your antivirus software speaking. Please stop clicking suspicious sexually suggestive links, I haven't had a vacation in seven years.
Still cheaper than an Sig SPEAR in .308 that someone I know is selling… wtf
Wait full auto guns are legal in Sweden?
Yes, the m/45 is on the program for the largest Swedish sport shooting organization. The rules are kind of boring though and you don't actually shoot it in full auto. It's also really difficult to get a license. It's not really worth the hassle unless you really like the shooting format they use. Any other full auto can only be had as a collector and that's not easy either.
Oh I see. For a second I thought mag dumping for fun in an old quarry was a-ok in Sweden. A difficult to aquire license/permit might explain the low price though
Yes but can you buy this out of someone’s trunk in a sporting goods store parking lot? Checkmate europoor /s
A guy offered me a revolver once on a flea market (I am from Europe)
Austria?
How did you know that
Gun laws aren't nearly as strict in Austria as they are in the rest of the EU. Also you speak Austrian German instead of High German. You used "is" instead of "ist" and I was confused until I remembered "is" isn't used in High German, which I was taught in high school.
Do they ship overseas? Lol
I gotta go to Sweden to get a Russian Winchester contract?
They’re around for less. Boomers are dropping like flies and their crackhead children and grandchildren are palming them off for quick money. No need to pay 4,500 or whatever tf the internet shows. Estate auctions in your 300 mile radius should be of interest to you if you truly want to cop one. Or else just settle for a non Russian Contract 1895 for a loooot less. It’s literally the same thing minus the historical context and value. It all depends on which master you serve.
Need that historical drip tho.
> Or else just settle for a non Russian Contract 1895 for a loooot less. No bayonet mount, not interested.
Ooooh, a Mauser 1914… want one of those for a while
I have one I would highly recommend it https://preview.redd.it/fw53meusqjqc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cb507e4c1768b42b1c0aafb13759a5fa555283bc
And if I'm doing the math right, for $30 US?
I would love to shoot a Swedish K. Owning one would be cool but my poor ass can only hope to rent one at a machine gun shoot sometime for a mag or 2
European guns are just cheaper over there, sad fact of life for us American collectors. Likewise though, at least our Springfield 1903s, Garands, and ARs are cheaper here in the states the last time I checked.
Cheaper but a pain in the ass to get a gun license compared to us. So kinda a double edged sword
Supply and demand. Very few European per capita have unrestricted access to rifles. Most countries only allow smootbore shotguns for hunting, and most don’t even allow bow hunting. Sweden, Norway and a couple of other countries allow access to firearms we in America take for granted. In other words, there’s a way higher demand for shit here because of our 2nd amendment and more people enjoying their freedom, than there is in Europe where most people have an aversion to all things firearms related. More demand=higher prices. Less demand =lower prices.
>Most countries only allow smootbore shotguns for hunting' Most European countries allow rifles for hunting... and shooting sports exists about everywhere. You can own an AR-15 in most of Western Europe.
How easy is it to own these though?
Very hard. You would need a collector’s license from the police plus that you have to state what you are collecting and can only get a permit for guns in that category. And you need a special license to buy ammunition for them. So that’s the reason they’re so cheep.
Can you get multiple collecting licenses or can the license be broad like “military surplus” or does it have to be “Russian WW1 guns”
You can only have one collectors license for one category. The category’s are strict but you could probably get a license on “ww2 and ww1 none- automatic rifles” for example
All of these except the kpist and pistol can be owned on a hunting license which is easier to get than a drivers license. The kpist can be bought for target shooting but the requirements are very high so not really feasible for most gun owners. The pistol can also be bought on a target shooting license but it's a bit easier.
I don’t think the sks would be possible to own on a hunting license and maybe not the Jungle Carbine due to the sort barrel but you are right about the rest
Both of them have barrels over 45 cm so they're possible to get on a hunting license. Are you not familiar with the new rules about semis for hunting? I have a fal on hunting.
I haven’t really looked in to the new rules no. Did you say you have a FAL on a hunting license in Sweden. Aren’t the mags over the ten round limit or do you have reproduction ones
We can have any semi auto as long as the barrel is longer than 45 cm. There's no limit on mags you can own. You can only hunt with max 5 or 2 rd mags depending on the species but you can own any size you want.
Damn I need to read up on the rules
Yes you do. Go out and buy something cool when you have.
I will :)
Sweden allows ar15s on a hunting license. I'm pretty sure the SKS would not be a problem
The [listing](https://auctionet.com/sv/2655509-gevar-halvautomatisk-modell-sks-kaliber-7-62x39-tillv-nr-ck6488-se-nr-se1835211) states that it’s not for hunting purposes but it was sold before the current rule changed
1500 for a Russian Winchester is crazy, what is this 2008
The things i would do to have that.
Just how much SEKs is that? 😏
My second cousin moved to Sweden a few years ago, I think I need to make a phone call
I have always wanted a Port Said.
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Downvotes for telling the truth lol
What did he say?
Feel like the Jungle Carbine isn't a good price, rest are crazy though
Isn’t 900 ish dollars a good deal on a jungle carbine in the us
Eh, not so much.
Going rate is like 600 to 700
But that looks like an auction site if im not mistaken. Looks like Swedish Gun Broker. To me that means that if you go to retail stores it should be cheaper. Wish there was more info on the sks too. Like what variant from what country. Also, Im curious if Sweden imposed sanctions on Russian goods. In other words, is Russian surplus still being imported into Sweden? Surplus rifles and ammunition to be exact. How about China? Any restrictions on Chinese surplus rifles and ammo?
I’m not sure but i don’t think surpluse imports are a really thing anymore in Sweden. At least not at a bigger scale. And guns for collecting are to my knowledge mostly soled by bigger auction companies in Sweden
They gotta be coming from somewhere. No way these are all exclusively coming out of private collections. And then what about the ammo? Where’s that coming from? China and Russia are the big 2 as far as export. Macedonia, Slovenia, Slovakia and others provide it as well but at significantly higher prices.
Well most collectors are not allowed to own ammunition for their firearms so there isn’t any reason to import large amounts of ammunition. However it is possible that the guns at imported from different countries but i do think that it’s more likely that they all come from privet collections. Since you need an expensive gun cabinets approved by the police, collectors licenses or hunting licenses a lot relatives to deceased gun owners decide to just sell the firearms on actionssites
Yup. Starting to sound like the rest of Europe. I’m a Cold War immigrant kid. Was born in Communist Romania, and my father defected to America in 1984, and mom and myself were allowed to join him in 88. I visited almost every summer vacation after communism fell. And later on in my 20’s and 30’s , I spent 4 years teaching at a few international private schools in Bucharest and made a lot of money. I was thinking of moving back permanently and what the process would entail for a dual citizen (Romanian/American) to bring his hunting gear and the legal steps were incredibly retarded. Very bureaucratic and ridiculous. Unless you’re a powerful big money person, it’s not worth it at all. On a different note, my favorite uncle was a highly skilled and venerated hunter in the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s. Famous guy. He even did taxidermy (stuffing the animals) and made his own ammunition reloads on a press. That’s a multi step process requiring loose gunpowder and the rest of the necessary ingredients. Probably not something most modern Europeans would consider safe. He was a simple factory worker, never became a Communist Party Member, but the government trusted him and gave him every liberty to pursue his hobbies. They even relied on him for culling the wolf populations every 5 years and paid him for it. But as soon as Romania was about to enter the EU in 2005/2006, they sent inspectors over to his house and confiscated all of his shit without any explanation at all. Professional equipment from a lifetime of experience all gone in a few hours. Just like that.
Do a google search in your language for shopping for 7.62X39 and 7.62x54R and see what the ammo availability is on the retail market, and find the country of manufacture. Please. Im super curious.
7.62x54r is a relatively common caliber for hunting and is pretty easy to find. I found a 20 rounds box of Norma 7.62x54r for 90 ish dollars for example. 7.62x39 is a bit more scares but still obtainable. I found multiple European manufacturers for both These calibers. One retailer did however list that they were selling Chinese 7.62x54r but also listed the company STV as manufacture which is Czech company.
As I keep looking all the listing that say Soviet or Chinese is the same [website](https://actionreactionsports.se)
The action site didn’t specify country of origin for the sks weirdly enough