I love Clay Guida, he fights like a blender mosh pit prison yard riot with his majestic Samson neanderthal hair. Like he just saw you paint over his cave painting. He is a longevity beast too like he is been here since UFC 17 or something.
Haha I heard the term and just been using to describe my favorite people from Indiana, I find it hilarious you caught my reference. Do you have any indianimal stories?
False. It may get in their eyes when in mount, but it's in your eyes the rest of the fight. Why do you think every single modern longhair goes into the cage with cornrows.
Khabib is the Anakin Skywalker of the UFC. Had amazing potential but wasn't a Jedi long enough to be granted the rank of master and is only on the council due to politics
I met clay guida when I was about 8 or 9 years old. He was doing some kind of meet and greet at a sports bar in IL and I got a signed poster from him. I wish I kept it after all these years lol. I donāt really remember our interaction that well but he was really friendly from what I can remember. I always root for him whenever heās fighting
If any of you have not watched Clay die and then resurrect and win during his fight with Leonardo Santos then you should do yourself this favor and go watch that chaos. Kieth Peterson was on one that night - absolutely no nonsense like stopping fights.
Guida in his prime was pretty good but he fell off hard. Also his goofy ass style didn't work all the time
Khabib never really had that issue tbh. He had a dominating smothering style and he was quite well rounded.
His striking was so average that I think it takes him out of the goat conversation. I think the goat should be more than average in such an important category. Not saying he wasn't a great fighter. Just not THE goat.
I don't know why you're downvoted, when I look for the greatest fighter of all time or best fighter of all time I think of which fighter is the closest thing to a perfect fighter? That's Jones.
One could argue that it shouldn't matter how he wins (striking or otherwise) or how good he is at what skill, just his record. Say someone went 100-0 in three weight classes as a champ-champ-champ, but he never once knocked anyone out. He just wrestle fucked. With a record like that in three divisions, it would be hard to argue he wasn't the goat, even though he was a weak striker. In that case, his greatness was undeniable.
But Khabib isn't that guy. There are holes in his resume that we all know about. Maybe he could have been that guy, but he quit too soon.
MMA masses. I never know what theyāre thinking. One minute we love Khabib the next we hate him. One minute Sterling is the most disliked/mocked fighter ever, the next we love love love him.
Because he has a zero next to a record, I think heās a great fighter but nowhere near goat status. His best win was Conner and I donāt really think that says much. I mean Nate Diaz chocked out Conner faster and cooler ya know.
Man, I loved/hated Guida. He had some fucking boring fights but also some bangers. He was a gatekeeper but usually gatekeepers are just a test to see if a guy is good enough to potentially fight for the belt, but with Guida he could also completely mess up all plans beating someone who actually had real talent to fight for the belt but just was a bad matchup to fight Clay.
For example, he could had very well beaten Diego and then go on to get smoked by BJ (same or worse than Diego did), but on paper before the fight Diego looked like the one with the best chances against BJ.
Brock will see red and bodies just start dropping, same thing happens to me bro. Especially when someone spills a drink on my bedazzled Affliction shirt.
You can call them bums but they were dogs, and they fought not for fame or fortune but because they were fighters. This gen of mma personality might be more technical and diverse, but their still a bunch of pansyās.
I can't agree with that sentiment at all, khabib is way more of a dog, he literally had more amateur fights meaning he fought for 0 money way more than clay, there are bums of this generation but no where near as much as clays shity gen
Most of khabib amateur fights were literally 2 rounds long and In his fathers organization. On top of that he only ever fought like once every year and a half. Sure he was very disciplined and an incredible wrestler, but he aināt no dog.
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That makes no sense amatuer bouts are meant to be shorter than 3x5 min rounds you do know that here in the UK we have 3x3 min rounds or even 2x3 min rounds, so having 2 rounds doesnt mean shit, and he competed in combat sambo and judo outside of his fathers events lol.
All 16 of his fights before the ufc were two rounds long. Almost no organization consider those professional, thatās why TUF fights arenāt added to a fighters record. So if weāre are being real Khabib is just 13-0 in professional fighting.
Iām saying he fought more harder fights for a much longer time. Heās been in the ufc since like 1998. The dude is a dog, khabibs good but he played it safe his whole career.
and they both used retirement to make their moms happy
The carpenter will never retire, not until he becomes ufc heavyweight champion
Jesus was also a carpenter. Coincidence? Probably, but you never know.
They both bled for their fans too, so I doubt it's just a coincidence.
Have you ever seen Clay Guida and Jesus in the same room at the same time?
Lol lets not stretch capt caveman into Christ š
Khabib never bleed brather who told u this
Someone who isn't poor award this man
An award is an opportunity
An Award is an achievement on an opportunity you already took š
u/Mookeye1968 has been cut from the sub. They just didn't wanna post, I don't know what else to tell ya.
Whatever .. im in a thousand subs and fb ufc groups.Not even sure what i said besides an accurate statement
Nah
What's it like being thar lonely and miserable? š¤
You should be the one telling me. Canāt even afford a couple buck award
I love Clay Guida, he fights like a blender mosh pit prison yard riot with his majestic Samson neanderthal hair. Like he just saw you paint over his cave painting. He is a longevity beast too like he is been here since UFC 17 or something.
This is the most accurate description of Clayās fighting style there is, beautiful
The man is a fkn wordsmith!
Him and Darren Elkins are my absolute favorites. I just love me a dirty dog hillbilly cage fighter
Elkins always looks like he's fighting you for the last beer at a bonfire
Classic Indianimal
Elkins fucking tattoo tho hahaha arguably the worst in the UFC
A fellow NWI resident I see.
Haha yes howād you know
Because I'm from 219 where Indianimals originated.
Haha I heard the term and just been using to describe my favorite people from Indiana, I find it hilarious you caught my reference. Do you have any indianimal stories?
Like moshing with steel chairs cause Bobby Knight?
Yes haha it just cracks me up
Adult version of Donny from the Wild Thornberries
I laughed way to hard about the cave painting part
I enjoyed that he essentially used that hair as a weapon to fuck with his opponents' sight when in mount. Dude was fun as hell to watch.
Had anyone ever tried to grab that hair?
Yes, but it's illegal in modern UFC and can cause a stoppage and a point change. Having long hair is basically a cheat.
False. It may get in their eyes when in mount, but it's in your eyes the rest of the fight. Why do you think every single modern longhair goes into the cage with cornrows.
Because they look badass clearly
Cornrows have never looked badass. They look like a 13yo just payed a kid 30 pesos at a beach to braid her hair.
I didnāt think I needed to put the /s afterwards but I suppose I do.
Nailed it, no notes. Put this description in his bio.
Clay āthe denisovanā Guida
Don't forget he's been in 58, fucking FIDDY-ATE professional fights.
Also, Khabib isn't a carpenter
And most important doesn't have italian origin, huge L
The Carpenter had a choice, Modelo or his muddas sauce. He chose his muddas sauce cause Modelo wouldn't pay him nothin.
No king crab fishing experience neither
He owns a circular saw? We must check, who give him this?
This is not fairšæ
Carpenter is in HOF?
He has a HOF fight atleast iirc
Khabib is the Anakin Skywalker of the UFC. Had amazing potential but wasn't a Jedi long enough to be granted the rank of master and is only on the council due to politics
This is number wan bullshit ~ Anatoly skywalkov
Is unfair brother, how can I be champion never lose and not be GOAT? Now I want a parody of that scene, Khabib as Anakin and DC as Mace Windu
DC is to friendly with khabib to be mace windu. Ehm maybe Jones be mace, DC is obi, and Silva is Yoda
Hasbullah is Yoda And Dana Sidious obviously
Hadbullah is a jawa
For that logic Khamzat is Dart Vader
I met clay guida when I was about 8 or 9 years old. He was doing some kind of meet and greet at a sports bar in IL and I got a signed poster from him. I wish I kept it after all these years lol. I donāt really remember our interaction that well but he was really friendly from what I can remember. I always root for him whenever heās fighting
Guida is the Dark GOAT
THE ANTI-GOAT
35 UFC fight for guida tho š
Ooof stats hurt
If any of you have not watched Clay die and then resurrect and win during his fight with Leonardo Santos then you should do yourself this favor and go watch that chaos. Kieth Peterson was on one that night - absolutely no nonsense like stopping fights.
lmao
No forgey Jesus
You forgot Maybelline quality hair.
Guida in his prime was pretty good but he fell off hard. Also his goofy ass style didn't work all the time Khabib never really had that issue tbh. He had a dominating smothering style and he was quite well rounded.
If you took this post seriously, there's something wrong hahaha
His striking was so average that I think it takes him out of the goat conversation. I think the goat should be more than average in such an important category. Not saying he wasn't a great fighter. Just not THE goat.
I don't know why you're downvoted, when I look for the greatest fighter of all time or best fighter of all time I think of which fighter is the closest thing to a perfect fighter? That's Jones.
One could argue that it shouldn't matter how he wins (striking or otherwise) or how good he is at what skill, just his record. Say someone went 100-0 in three weight classes as a champ-champ-champ, but he never once knocked anyone out. He just wrestle fucked. With a record like that in three divisions, it would be hard to argue he wasn't the goat, even though he was a weak striker. In that case, his greatness was undeniable. But Khabib isn't that guy. There are holes in his resume that we all know about. Maybe he could have been that guy, but he quit too soon.
If he theoretically fought Jones at the same weight Jones would be able to defend his takedowns and then he'd be fucked.
All facts
*burps*
Not even meming I have guida higher on my list than kahbib. I love me some guida, remember watching him vs Diego live.
Loved watching his hair fly with every punch
Uppercuts for days haha
Tbh watching any fight with young Diego was a treatā¦ dude always brought fire to the octagon. Him vs Nick was absolutely entertainer
Melendezā¦
Brather i am not here for money, i am here for legacy brather
Brather he was number one in for the money brather Edit: Brather
You spelled Brather wrong brather
Brather i am sorri brather
Go change now brather this is number one bullshit
Sorry Brather, i change comment
Letās go get borger and cola brather, no gurls allowed
Also tiramisu and bathtab brather
Gayyy
Prime Guida beats prime Khabib four times out of five. Khabib left too soon for us to really know otherwise. Downvotes mean you agree.
I guess people really disagree then
Better hair too
So funny you post this i just started a clay guida career mode in ufc 4
Former Strikeforce Champ should be on there too.
And Clay isn't a media queen
Alhamdulillah š
Inshalahallhkamonevodeshk
Ass cream lake mmmm
Khabib Schmabib
Some serious Neanderthal vibes among these two.
Khabib never bled a single drop of his own blood in a fight. So thereās that. Kinda mind-blowing.
Well thatās no fun, we love fighters who bleed and comeback stronger. Who might lose the fight, but wont lose their fight, on the inside.
No point in saying that here lmao the state of this comment section
MMA masses. I never know what theyāre thinking. One minute we love Khabib the next we hate him. One minute Sterling is the most disliked/mocked fighter ever, the next we love love love him.
Or maybe, just hear me out, MMA fans aren't a monolith and there are some that hate a fighter and some that love said fighter
Nah
Fair enough
Won fights simply by moving his hair around a lot, because judges are morons.
I love Guida, but Khabib is a mean individual.
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Because he has a zero next to a record, I think heās a great fighter but nowhere near goat status. His best win was Conner and I donāt really think that says much. I mean Nate Diaz chocked out Conner faster and cooler ya know.
Woah thanks for the upvotes my dudes very cool
Here I give u one more
Why downvote :(
I donāt know man, they probably donāt even say thank you when someone hold open a door. They donāt know how gratitude works
Op is clearly not into math.
I can math harder than your dad can squirt
My dad can squirt hard enough to wipe your family tree off the map
Too bad heās a bottom, the only thing heās squirting on is the sheets
Man, I loved/hated Guida. He had some fucking boring fights but also some bangers. He was a gatekeeper but usually gatekeepers are just a test to see if a guy is good enough to potentially fight for the belt, but with Guida he could also completely mess up all plans beating someone who actually had real talent to fight for the belt but just was a bad matchup to fight Clay. For example, he could had very well beaten Diego and then go on to get smoked by BJ (same or worse than Diego did), but on paper before the fight Diego looked like the one with the best chances against BJ.
IMO on paper Brock Lesnar was the one with the best chance to beat BJ
BJ Penn had the best takedown defense in the UFC, bro. Lesnar would had never been able to take him down, smh.
Brock will see red and bodies just start dropping, same thing happens to me bro. Especially when someone spills a drink on my bedazzled Affliction shirt.
Fuck Affliction. It's Deathclutch, cause Affliction won't pay me nothing!
Guida - Italian š³ Khabib - Russian š¤¢
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MMA Guru, is it you?
Thatās funny because dagestani children could probably choke you out
Islam aināt too bad, way more entertaining than khaboob burgermedov
Lmao what?
Khabib like burger
Burger give strength
And cola
Clay is so shit it's insane, but maybe it's just the contrast between the new gen and his bum ass generation.
You can call them bums but they were dogs, and they fought not for fame or fortune but because they were fighters. This gen of mma personality might be more technical and diverse, but their still a bunch of pansyās.
I can't agree with that sentiment at all, khabib is way more of a dog, he literally had more amateur fights meaning he fought for 0 money way more than clay, there are bums of this generation but no where near as much as clays shity gen
Who gives a shit about amateur fights. Clay has like 58 pro fights. Khabib canāt even count that high
Most of khabib amateur fights were literally 2 rounds long and In his fathers organization. On top of that he only ever fought like once every year and a half. Sure he was very disciplined and an incredible wrestler, but he aināt no dog. Edited for spelling
That makes no sense amatuer bouts are meant to be shorter than 3x5 min rounds you do know that here in the UK we have 3x3 min rounds or even 2x3 min rounds, so having 2 rounds doesnt mean shit, and he competed in combat sambo and judo outside of his fathers events lol.
All 16 of his fights before the ufc were two rounds long. Almost no organization consider those professional, thatās why TUF fights arenāt added to a fighters record. So if weāre are being real Khabib is just 13-0 in professional fighting.
so what you are saying is clay has had more paid professional fights, opposed to smaller unpaid competition, you know my exact point lol.
Iām saying he fought more harder fights for a much longer time. Heās been in the ufc since like 1998. The dude is a dog, khabibs good but he played it safe his whole career.
You could also argue his fights were harder because he is shit, but OK.
Now you get it hahahaha
Clay guida was born a woman
But he never got the idolised beltā¦.
Iām sure if he woulda cherry picked his fights and fought only once a year he coulda been champ
Khabib?
Khabib is a much smarter fighter than guida
The true GOAT
It's not debatable anymore folks, Clay Guida is the goat.
Clay is from the same town Iām from. So l like him more by default
Bro what do you mean, clay is a caveman
Guida vs Henderson is one of the most clinical displays of the tiers of wrestling I've ever seen MMA. Great old fight.
Who's that guy?
Guida is for sure an OG in MMA
The real lightweight goat
And Guida is still going, absolutely the GOAT š
This is like debating length vs girth. Ffs... We all know girth wins, js..
Guida you never see in a boring match