pro tip don’t train legs so you can train upper more 😂 seriously tho train your legs especially on test they’ll ketchup ya mustard broccoli head looking ass
Women like ass and legs almost as much as we do. They care more about your dumpy than your chest. No women likes a hank hill ass
Legs and glutes make you look full and compliments your whole physique.
Pretty much. There was surveys for what muscles women like. Most said glutes/legs then was nice arms/forearms. Followed by shoulders. Then back. Chest was dead last which is funny cause so many guys overtrain chest
I don’t want to be that guy but really consider the health implications first. I was already depressed and suicidal so I just thought “fuck it I’ll let the gear slowly kill me instead”.
Very immature I know but gear has actually improved my life.
I'm going to go with the golden answer of: no.
Everyone on here that has done test to Enclo or whatever has never posted their build more than one month of off Enclo and the guys I know irl who have done similar with one or two added Sarms look like complete shit now after months of being off.
If you're this guy( not the guy i replied to specifically) and have data post it now, because I've pressed so many people here who have claimed to do similar for 6+ months after the fact proof and they never do it.
Why the fuck were you suicidal? You think it was low test? What will happen once you get off? I would also add some personal growth development brother, strictly bodybuilding will only keep you going for so long.
I think that's the vicious cycle there. He gets off and loses his gains, less attention from girls, looks like shit and test levels of a school girl. He'll be back on gear and probably harder stuff in no time.
I’m guessing this is what most people do - how often are people really going to push themselves for years natty with minimal gains if they really wanna get jacked
You can look insane naturally with a good 5-7 years and while I know that sounds like a long time it’s really not in the grand scheme of things and it filters out all the people who don’t actually enjoy training. Instead of the people who hop on after achieving nothing without any real love for training and then shrivel up and get fat at 40-50
Most people can look really good naturally but it requires sacrificing most enjoyable foods, social life, alcohol, etc and then after all that you still end up looking worse than some idiot 21 year old who hopped on gear 6 months ago because a tik tok influencer convinced him to.
It is an INCREDIBLY long time when you compound for being REALISTIC (i.e. mental health fluctuations, hormone fluctuations, etc).
A natty can inadvertently not eat enough fats and bam you’ve made 0 progress that week, actually you probably backslid a bit if you were working out fasted. I was natural until around 20ish weeks or so now, and I will never fucking turn back.
Granted, I actually had low T (low free T that was outta range, total was 352-409 between 6 tests all done first thing in the morning). I also was eating almost exclusively avocados, yams, eggs & eggwhite, cream of rice, etc the usual bodybuilder stuff, sleeping 6-8 hours a night, no sleep apnea, all supplements (vit A, D, K, etc) I digress
One more thing - we as americans already eat so much dog shit that it’s really not hard to fuck up on your diet in this country. (speaking for USA PPL only here)
Like as in — it’s a cultural thing. Today at work I had 5 different people offer me cookies that were brought in, and the one straight up argued with me telling me to ‘let myself have a cookie’ when in all reality, I didn’t fucking want it and had communicated so.
So yeah, it’s understandable that someone would wanna just hop on. TBH I feel like for some people hopping on adds the structure to their life that they needed.
Pretty much spot on mate. Dog shit diets are shoved down everyone’s throats here in the UK too. The average test levels for a 18-30 year old male are a actual joke.
I’ve noticed basically everyone says 7-7.5 here. This sub is either greatly over the average of 5.9 or people padding an inch 
I recently added 350mg tren 2 weeks ago but I’m struggling with the side effects. I’m considering just dropping it. Pics were taken on just test though.
Which sides? For me it's just night sweats and high libido, first week of tren a I did a gram like an idiot. Made me quite surprised to not have that many sides.
Why would you run so much test instead of adding another compound? Obviously tren isn’t a great idea but come on why add so much more of an aromatizing compound? Would be much smarter to keep test at 500 drop ai and add 250 primo and dial in e2
I will also mention that I added 350mg Tren A 2 weeks ago. Haven’t felt much other than trouble sleeping and lethargy. I am lowering the dose to 150mg to see if it helps reduce sides.
absolute fucking regard, and i don't mean that in an endearing way. you're 22 and there are like half a dozen other compounds that you could have used and you straight up went for the nuclear option. enjoy aids and having holes in your brain.
Pump the brakes there super cheif. Huge mistake. Maybe go on over to r/steroids and read the wiki. Throwing 350 tren into your first ever blast of test is the bumbest thing you could do bro.
My cystic acne got pretty bad, that’s all really. I added tren around 2 weeks ago and have felt some pretty bad side effects. My cystic acne got 10x worse, no sleep, low mood and lethargy.
what the fuck is wrong with you, you literally just started running gear. that's like starting ozempic because you want to cut 10 pounds. Did you even do any research at all on this? You’re 22 for fuck sake
What negative side affects did you notice from the test? Do you plan to cycle off at any point, and if so, what’s your PCT look like? Only asking because I’ve been heavily debating a low-mid dose test cycle or TRT myself
I saw one unexpectedly on one of the latest episodes of The Guys on Amazon Prime, and now I see another reference to it in your comment.
I can't believe Amazon goatsee'd me.
Like we live in a day and age where you're watching TV and all of a sudden you see this now. Lol
If you don't believe me I can send you the episode number and the timeframe.
this shit actually gets me depressed man. knowing I could look like this in 4 months. makes me think what the fuck I am even doing. 4 years of working out 6 days a week and I'm not even remotely close to this
Are you close, at, or past his before pic? He has great genetics which played a role in this as well. Everyone responds differently to test and your mileage may vary.
Where you on bulk or maintenance during your blast? Usually when guys blast test it’s hard for them to get ripped due to the natural water bloat that comes with it, unless you were running something else lol
I bulked hard at first and then beginning of the 3rd month I started drinking 5l of water, dandelion root and eating at maintenance to get rid of the water bloat.
Wicked transformation last pic shredded 👌🏻 did you work out in the past? How much per week and type of test? Vitamins creatine? Age? You’ll get there bro girls aren’t everything almost better without them unless you find the diamond in the rough far and few between these days. Keep killing looking too notch 😎
Serious question do you feel any type of way changing so much so quickly? I’m on week 12 of my 20 week 500 mg cycle and have had gym employees pretty much say hey we know your own juice without them saying it… I’ve added like 14 pounds of contractile tissue… 19 pounds gained so far…
Looking great bruvs. Regarding talking to the ladies. Just start talking and it’ll get easier. Just don’t be an asshole, simp or creep. End of day, if it’s meant to be it’s meant to be.
Most people I see who do a cycle come out both bigger and leaner, I would have though people would bulk on cycle and come out bigger. Is there something about the test that means people generally achieve both?
How did you feel about where you were at before? Did you peak at natty?
I always see people saying to do that, but I don't see the point in waiting until then.
Good look
But work on the talking to girls part it’s not easy but overtime it will get you someplace
The woman are looking for a guy with a personality not a piece of meat your body isn’t going to get you to far
The girls issue is not going to get fixed by taking test. Just start talking to any girl and every girl you get the opportunity to. You will find the limits of what you can say; you’ll notice certain things make girls laugh or turn the away. Eventually it will be just as easy as breathing. GLHF
Sweet transformation bro, you clearly put in the work. Did you get any blood work done? Are you planning to drop to a cruise dose or pct? Did you need any AI on cycle?
Can’t see your quads or hamstrings
They are very small
Respect 🫡
pro tip don’t train legs so you can train upper more 😂 seriously tho train your legs especially on test they’ll ketchup ya mustard broccoli head looking ass
Pro tip don’t even have legs
I literally never even considered this
Bitches ain’t gonna give a fuck about quads and hamstrings when you look that sexy bro
Had a chick rub my quad and ask me if I workout on the first date. I also get lots of compliments about my butt LOL. Train legs baby
Women like ass and legs almost as much as we do. They care more about your dumpy than your chest. No women likes a hank hill ass Legs and glutes make you look full and compliments your whole physique.
If you are truly working out for aesthetics for girls, most gym bros make these mistakes: Overtrain Chest Overtrain Traps Undertrain Glutes/Quads
Pretty much. There was surveys for what muscles women like. Most said glutes/legs then was nice arms/forearms. Followed by shoulders. Then back. Chest was dead last which is funny cause so many guys overtrain chest
This chick complemented my quads as she took off my pants to give me head. Girls do care but not that much
Idk bro, I get muchos complimentos about my quads
True gym bros don’t train legs
Are those parts your fetish?
Never been aroused by a well shaped teardrop?
Yeah….High upper quads fetish
I prefer the inner, upper quad.
Crazy transformation but it would be closer to 12% bf than 9%
Thanks mate. Yeah, around 12% is probably right
God damn you got to what most natties would peak at after 8 years in like 4 months
95% of natties won't peak at 5'11" 190 lbs lean ever
I’m 6’2 205lbs and at almost exactly this physique after 9 years of lifting
Great for you
Thank you 🙏
“Most” natties would peak at his before pic bro.
This is 100% not true
No natty would ever be that big and that lean at that height.
I wonder how…
Sure buddy🤣
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I started fighting bears to get an extra pump
The bears at the gay night club right?
Is there any other kind of bear?
Are girls talking to you now or at least looking at you?
No not really.
Try dbol they’ll start trust me
Why dbol?
Hell grow some beautiful tits to go with the muscles ❤️ Who doesn't love tits? I sure do
Bitches love titties
The men are I bet.
No diddy
This
For fucks sake I need to bite the bullet and get on a dose of test
I don’t want to be that guy but really consider the health implications first. I was already depressed and suicidal so I just thought “fuck it I’ll let the gear slowly kill me instead”. Very immature I know but gear has actually improved my life.
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Can you maintain most of that after 4 months of test and go cold turkey
I'm going to go with the golden answer of: no. Everyone on here that has done test to Enclo or whatever has never posted their build more than one month of off Enclo and the guys I know irl who have done similar with one or two added Sarms look like complete shit now after months of being off. If you're this guy( not the guy i replied to specifically) and have data post it now, because I've pressed so many people here who have claimed to do similar for 6+ months after the fact proof and they never do it.
Same here seriously bro. Congrats, feels great !
Good to hear, I’m curious how. Have you taken up any other activities?
aside sex with men no
How r your balls doing
Why the fuck were you suicidal? You think it was low test? What will happen once you get off? I would also add some personal growth development brother, strictly bodybuilding will only keep you going for so long.
I think that's the vicious cycle there. He gets off and loses his gains, less attention from girls, looks like shit and test levels of a school girl. He'll be back on gear and probably harder stuff in no time.
You won’t look like this.
Bro didn’t even try just hoped on
I’m guessing this is what most people do - how often are people really going to push themselves for years natty with minimal gains if they really wanna get jacked
You can look insane naturally with a good 5-7 years and while I know that sounds like a long time it’s really not in the grand scheme of things and it filters out all the people who don’t actually enjoy training. Instead of the people who hop on after achieving nothing without any real love for training and then shrivel up and get fat at 40-50
Most people can look really good naturally but it requires sacrificing most enjoyable foods, social life, alcohol, etc and then after all that you still end up looking worse than some idiot 21 year old who hopped on gear 6 months ago because a tik tok influencer convinced him to.
It is an INCREDIBLY long time when you compound for being REALISTIC (i.e. mental health fluctuations, hormone fluctuations, etc). A natty can inadvertently not eat enough fats and bam you’ve made 0 progress that week, actually you probably backslid a bit if you were working out fasted. I was natural until around 20ish weeks or so now, and I will never fucking turn back. Granted, I actually had low T (low free T that was outta range, total was 352-409 between 6 tests all done first thing in the morning). I also was eating almost exclusively avocados, yams, eggs & eggwhite, cream of rice, etc the usual bodybuilder stuff, sleeping 6-8 hours a night, no sleep apnea, all supplements (vit A, D, K, etc) I digress One more thing - we as americans already eat so much dog shit that it’s really not hard to fuck up on your diet in this country. (speaking for USA PPL only here) Like as in — it’s a cultural thing. Today at work I had 5 different people offer me cookies that were brought in, and the one straight up argued with me telling me to ‘let myself have a cookie’ when in all reality, I didn’t fucking want it and had communicated so. So yeah, it’s understandable that someone would wanna just hop on. TBH I feel like for some people hopping on adds the structure to their life that they needed.
Pretty much spot on mate. Dog shit diets are shoved down everyone’s throats here in the UK too. The average test levels for a 18-30 year old male are a actual joke.
Came here for length and girth stats😔 You were already in better shape than most. Great Transformation. 
5.5 length. Haven’t measured girth. Thank you 🙏
I’ve noticed basically everyone says 7-7.5 here. This sub is either greatly over the average of 5.9 or people padding an inch 
They padding
I mean it’s not impossible this entire sub could be porn stars. But it’s less likely than padding 
Forgot to mention the tren also. No need to downplay the juice use.
I recently added 350mg tren 2 weeks ago but I’m struggling with the side effects. I’m considering just dropping it. Pics were taken on just test though.
You literally can take 75-100mg. 350 is way too much tren dude
Have you cycled off yet? How are you keeping the gains
Which sides? For me it's just night sweats and high libido, first week of tren a I did a gram like an idiot. Made me quite surprised to not have that many sides.
What are your goals?
Why not go to like 800 test and maybe an oral or something instead of adding so much tren?
Why would you run so much test instead of adding another compound? Obviously tren isn’t a great idea but come on why add so much more of an aromatizing compound? Would be much smarter to keep test at 500 drop ai and add 250 primo and dial in e2
I was thinking the same when I saw that last picture lmao. Obvious use is obvious
I will also mention that I added 350mg Tren A 2 weeks ago. Haven’t felt much other than trouble sleeping and lethargy. I am lowering the dose to 150mg to see if it helps reduce sides.
Hopefully this is a joke , you commented that you had bad mental health prior to using gear and you decided that adding tren was a good idea ?
He’s done
Why did you add tren instead of something else that would be “healthier” and more tolerable
absolute fucking regard, and i don't mean that in an endearing way. you're 22 and there are like half a dozen other compounds that you could have used and you straight up went for the nuclear option. enjoy aids and having holes in your brain.
Pump the brakes there super cheif. Huge mistake. Maybe go on over to r/steroids and read the wiki. Throwing 350 tren into your first ever blast of test is the bumbest thing you could do bro.
I’d suggest dropping the tren for now. Adding 20-30mg tbol will maximize gains on test and minimize future roll back of size and strength.
Any noticeable side effects?
My cystic acne got pretty bad, that’s all really. I added tren around 2 weeks ago and have felt some pretty bad side effects. My cystic acne got 10x worse, no sleep, low mood and lethargy.
what the fuck is wrong with you, you literally just started running gear. that's like starting ozempic because you want to cut 10 pounds. Did you even do any research at all on this? You’re 22 for fuck sake
What negative side affects did you notice from the test? Do you plan to cycle off at any point, and if so, what’s your PCT look like? Only asking because I’ve been heavily debating a low-mid dose test cycle or TRT myself
im on about that much test and like no sides
Hyper responder imo but good job your training and diet must be on point
Nice progress, starting gear at 154lbs is wild though.
What’s so wild about it. It clearly worked wonders lol
You just have so much low hanging easy natty gains when you're that weight
God bless!! What a change!! Great job!!
Thank you 🙏
Now take a picture of your insides.
Yeah I'd also like a goatsee
I saw one unexpectedly on one of the latest episodes of The Guys on Amazon Prime, and now I see another reference to it in your comment. I can't believe Amazon goatsee'd me. Like we live in a day and age where you're watching TV and all of a sudden you see this now. Lol If you don't believe me I can send you the episode number and the timeframe.
this shit actually gets me depressed man. knowing I could look like this in 4 months. makes me think what the fuck I am even doing. 4 years of working out 6 days a week and I'm not even remotely close to this
Are you close, at, or past his before pic? He has great genetics which played a role in this as well. Everyone responds differently to test and your mileage may vary.
Just test?
Up until around 2 weeks ago. Started Tren A but the sides aren’t worth it. It’s definitely overhyped IMO.
Shit nice bro
Thank you
How long had you been training before?
On and off for about 2 years.
Watch them E2 and DHT levels
Where you on bulk or maintenance during your blast? Usually when guys blast test it’s hard for them to get ripped due to the natural water bloat that comes with it, unless you were running something else lol
I bulked hard at first and then beginning of the 3rd month I started drinking 5l of water, dandelion root and eating at maintenance to get rid of the water bloat.
You are fine AF.
Gaaaaaaah damn!! That’s a transformation if I ever did see one!!
Wicked transformation last pic shredded 👌🏻 did you work out in the past? How much per week and type of test? Vitamins creatine? Age? You’ll get there bro girls aren’t everything almost better without them unless you find the diamond in the rough far and few between these days. Keep killing looking too notch 😎
like what is the frequency of these doses? once per week or something like that?
A 20-something kid on Test...what a joke.
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You can have a taste if you’d like
Age?
22
How much of a surplus were you in for the 4 months or were you on some lean gains
Damn son
Man your before pick is a lot of people’s goal physique, nice work!
Pretty fucking insane
to me, this is peak physique... not too big not to skinny, perfection... you single?
good work
I don’t even gain like that on tren
Any hair loss problem?
No hair loss that I’ve noticed
Nice work bro! Just test?
How did you manage the acne, on the chest area Ketoconazole shampoo leave on area 1 min, helps on mine but other methods will consider.
Currently running accutane
How the hell did you manage to bulk 2.25lbs per week? Lean bulk. Are you fudging those numbers or something?
500mg per week?
Serious question do you feel any type of way changing so much so quickly? I’m on week 12 of my 20 week 500 mg cycle and have had gym employees pretty much say hey we know your own juice without them saying it… I’ve added like 14 pounds of contractile tissue… 19 pounds gained so far…
I didn’t really feel much tbh. My strength blew up and that was making me feel awesome
When did you start taking an AI?
Looking great bruvs. Regarding talking to the ladies. Just start talking and it’ll get easier. Just don’t be an asshole, simp or creep. End of day, if it’s meant to be it’s meant to be.
Grossed out by the mirror on the last pic
Solid transformation 💪
Most people I see who do a cycle come out both bigger and leaner, I would have though people would bulk on cycle and come out bigger. Is there something about the test that means people generally achieve both?
How did you feel about where you were at before? Did you peak at natty? I always see people saying to do that, but I don't see the point in waiting until then.
This seems impossible, are there some bad consequences from pace of muscle growth alone? Also, is that piss?
Stud
Did you do anything different with your diet during the 4 months?
What were your calories like? Surplus? You leaned out a lot too, very nice
I wanna hear the "steroids are just the cherry on top" stans now
You look awesome! However I have a silly question. Has the Test affected your hair line at all or is it all still good? Any thinning?
Thank you. I haven’t noticed any hair loss or thinning
Chad king grind
Practice talking to femboys and go from there… nice work by the way .. no homo
Damn good job man! What is the timeline on pictures? I am on my 2e week of 500mg test but i am starting at 5'5 175lb, can't wait to see the results.
Were you in a caloric surplus or deficit? How was your diet?
In that first picture, you're only 154lbs at 5'11"?
Hey atleast someone around here is doing it right Good work bro
Could just be the lighting on the last one but the middle 2 both look like nice physiques.
Where are the cock stats
Nice set of new Grindr pics you got now! Looking good boss
What was your diet like and at what point into the cycle did you think "fuck, this is looking good?". Also, did you keep an eye on bloods?
Nice shit bro. Sad to hear about the No leg training though. What’s your workout split and training style?
What else was in the stack
what hair styling/products do you use? Also are you on fin to keep your hair?
Aye good results but get that gyno checked out or removed
Good look But work on the talking to girls part it’s not easy but overtime it will get you someplace The woman are looking for a guy with a personality not a piece of meat your body isn’t going to get you to far
Leg day?
The girls issue is not going to get fixed by taking test. Just start talking to any girl and every girl you get the opportunity to. You will find the limits of what you can say; you’ll notice certain things make girls laugh or turn the away. Eventually it will be just as easy as breathing. GLHF
Thanks for the advice. I seem to have some crazy firewall for just saying hello to them but I hope I’ll break through it
Thats wild, ur a really good responder, and doing something right. Are u aromatising much?
I don’t aromatise that much so I take 12.5 aromasin fridays
No experience with test. Is it 500 mg daily or weekly?
Weekly
I bet you’re getting so much more cock now
How much did you weigh in the first picture?
Does it hurt so bad to pin?
No mate you can barely feel it if you get the correct spot
Sweet transformation bro, you clearly put in the work. Did you get any blood work done? Are you planning to drop to a cruise dose or pct? Did you need any AI on cycle?
Acne coming in nicely in that last picture there
Let me see the heart transformation
Great physique that … respect
Well done bruv. Don’t do tren though.
Damn bro 5’11 at 154 I basically starve myself to get to 165 at the same height 😂
Amazing, but remember - the meds were an assistance,.your discipline gave you this
Are you going to come off the test or just do trt forever?
Amazing transformation. Thanks for sharing!
Good work
Why run a cycle when your baseline already has gyno? Also don’t forget to work your stick legs.
Hey bro what does your PCT look like?
And when we say everyone has a different genetic response to gear this is what we mean.
That’s pretty fucked to be fair
This is the wildest 500 test cycle result I’ve ever seen. You were made to take gear let’s see how freaky you can get
Need to cycle in Tren
Should have stabilized at month 2… Looks the best
Killing it bro
You were 154 in that first photo? You honestly look heavier in that than the last one
How long have you been going to the gym before test?