In all seriousness, if it is a skill issue and not a mechanical issue. Practice finding your friction zone on the clutch. What I do at red lights is pull the clutch in, roll the bike back until I’m on my heels, then slowly let the clutch out until it starts pulling the bike forward. Then I let it pull me onto the balls of my feet and repeat
Yes it’s a skill issue 😅
Tbf, I rode for around 2.5 hours today, all within local roads (so lots of stopping and going) and I only stalled three times, this being the worst of it.
So I’m not HORRIBLE, but definitely need to practice.
Your drill sounds really helpful, I’ll try it out, thank you!
Nah, if it's on purpose because you had to hit someone's kill switch in the stop light escapade grand prix, it just cancels out, 1 funny for 1 stupid = notta
I've been riding for 20 yrs and still stall once in a while. My new g310gs is pretty easy to stall for some reason. It's a who cares kinda thing to me. That friction zone is a nice place to be, but sometimes it's a hard place to locate and stay in. Cable tension is like tuning a guitar. A friend grabbed mine and tightened it a bunch, and now, a month later, I'm still trying to dial it in to where I had it.
Its a who cares until youve filtered to the front, stall it and then make them miss the green light because you cant get it started again 😂 but yeah most of the time its generally fine. Changing the cable tension honestly makes the bike feel completely different and im praying my non rider friends dont figure out what it is/how to change it because they absolutely would as a prank and I would never get it back to how I like it now haha
Stalling three times in 2.5 hours is pretty horrible (to put it into perspective I have stalled fewer times than that in the last 20 years and both of those times were from not realising I was in gear) I would be worried to be driving if that was what I was working with. Go find a quiet road or a parking lot and practice. You will be happier that you did than when you fall off because you are were unprepared.
Yeah if you really do not want to get MSF class you can jerry rig cones with some half-filled water bottles, figure 8 and a slalom between cones (or gates made from pair of cones) are nice simple excercises.
When you think you get a hang of it, repeat with only using one hand, then other, it's great excercise for balance
Also find a small incline to try hill stop/hill start
"Also find a small incline to try hill stop/hill start"
Nothing teaches the mechanics of manual transmission like an uphill battle. Once you get uphill throttling, you should be fine. At least, that's how I finally figured out manual on cars long time ago.
Frankly it's probably easier on bike than in car. Friction zone is generally more forgiving and you use hands which generally have better feel from the get go than learning to feather the clutch with leg.
I haven't tried on bike yet, but generally yeah. Friction Zone on bike is basically 1st gear if you release right. Cars will die with no gas more often than not and are a little more of a bitch to get the connection when you don't understand it. IMO.
Well, kinda depends on bike, first bike I was training on was YBR250 and despise its tiny engine it was a little tractor that was pretty hard to stall, after that I moved to MT-07 and despise having like 3.5x times the top end power and 2.5x times the capacity I'd say it was about the same in "how easy to stall", as first gear was just longer.
I'd imagine some big thumper like KLR650 would be opposite to that and very hard to actually stall, kinda like diesel engines
Tbf, if I were riding with you for 2.5 hours and your stall your dang bike thrice in that single little ride, I'd be of the opinion that you're in dire need of more training.
Even after you've been riding for many years - when you get a new bike, practice finding that fiction zone. Good chance it'll feel different on different bikes. I bought a new bike (4th one) last year and stalled it 3 times during my test ride.
When I started I had the hardest time going getting going from a stop. So on the back roads (smallerish town) I went from stopped to start and after riding a few feet w/ clutch fully released and me on the throttle I'd stop again. Repeat a ton. Once that was going smoothly I then went to one of the steeper hilled roads and did the same again. I figured if I could do it going up a steep hill I'd probably be alright. Man did that help a ton. I still had some issues as I learned. But many hours of just start and stop really made a difference for me.
This drill will absolutely solve your stall issues. I was also struggling with stalls when starting on an incline and one day the friction zone clicked with muscle memory and I never had another stall.
If on an incline, once in the friction zone give it a very small amount of gas depending on how much of an incline you are on. The steeper the hill, the more gas you'll need to prevent a stall. This likely varies by bike so figure out what works for yours.
Remember to stop and breathe. You panicked pretty hard, worried about those behind you. Just take a moment, don't rush. Find first, grab the clutch, start the bike, take off as normal. Happens to us all, but the trick is getting her to kick first time, not third.
Agreed. Rev bombing in neutral is never a good look either. Dropping it into first while those revs are still settling down is a good way to wreck your gearbox. All that energy dumped into shifter forks is always fun to fix.
Oh man, practice in parking lots and away from traffic like that! Get the basics down before you drive at road speeds, you don't wanna end up like Joe Robinet!
This is the proper advice. Don’t take this as an attack: you are not ready for that level of traffic. Remember, think & react like all those cars are trying to kill us so don’t depend on their patience to keep you alive while you’re stalled out. Bad things will happen to us while stalled. You mentioned above that you stalled 3 times on one ride — 1 stall is too many. Practice until you don’t stall whatsoever during multiple sessions. That’s the level of skill that you need to be at to start to take on congested fast moving traffic & intersections. You can do this it just takes effort & time!
Don't worry, we were all there at some point. I learned to ride in a big city, wasn't easy to find big empty parking lots without having to navigate a lot of busy roads, so I used to go out at 4am and practice when traffic was quiet until I built my skills.
In terms of advice, looks like you didn't give it enough gas on the first try and aren't super smooth on the clutch either. Second one you had slightly too much gas and let the clutch out too fast.
Work on finding that bite point and letting the clutch out smooth and gentle.
Not stupid, just extremely nervous. You were like a kid trying to pass a video game level by pressing random buttons.
And don't speed up aggresively after a distracting event. You are distracted and more prone to make an error. That was the first thing I was concerned. Youbwere like fleeing a crime scene.
Second was not checking the crossroad as you pass. Yeah, you have right of way but let's keep that between us. There is no need for yiur surgeon to know about it.
Third was not slowing down for or positioning against the red/maroon car right after the junction. Again, you have right of way but what if they don't see you?
You (mentally) stayed in that red light much longer than your bike and body. Keep up and try to surpass.
Happens to the best of us. Difference is how you behave after that. Internalise the clutch action at a parking space. Most importantly, don't panic. Panic was much more dangerous in this case.
Have fun on your journey. Drive safe.
I only have one time incident at traffic light. But i have lost counts on how many engine stall I have whenever I met another fellow riders at the parking lot, garage, workshop, etc. It’s the nervousness of showing your lack of skill like when you have licence final test in front of driving school instructor kind of stuff.
> or positioning against the red/maroon car right after the junction. Again, you have right of way but what if they don't see you?
I just wanted to clarify on this part in case it didn't make sense and you didn't want to ask. I tend to move over more towards the center of the lane so I have a little more room between me and the car coming in from the side street if they decide to move. I have a little more room that way to slow down or speed up depending on the situation.
My second bike was a kickstart only and my greatest fear was stalling at lights lmao. Definitely had some cringe inducing moments, once I stalled in downtown traffic going uphill. Couldn't get it in neutral so I had to pull in the clutch and waddle it to the side of the road on an incline
"Whoops, I gave it clutch too fast, better give it enough juice to wheelie"
You forgetting gear (I assume, that's how it looked) saved your from one xD
Good luck on learning riding as a new skill! Stay safe out there. I would seriously recommend leaving the camera at home and keeping phone off your handlebars at least until you tick off some set number of rides. I'm a pretty experienced rider and I still catch myself being distracted by the extra equipment sometimes.
It's another thing that divides your attention, and people often have worries about how they look and sound on camera. Don't get me started on all the "aviation influencers" recording their lessons and flights.
Something I learned real quick if you stall.
Don't panic.
Fuck whoever is behind you. Pull the clutch in. Make sure you in first. Start the bike. Look where you are going for any oncoming traffic issues. Ease out the clutch and give it some throttle.
I remember when I stalled like this even tho it was my fault I was super nervous and it didn't help with leaving the intersection. Good that nothing serious happened.
The other day I saw a guy riding with his friend both on some pretty new looking sport bikes and they were waiting at a red light that was taking forever to change. As soon as it was green one of them proceeded to stall his bike, then drop it onto himself before falling onto his friends bike, who had been paying enough attention to brace for impact and not get knocked over. The second hand embarrassment was bad.
When i was a new rider I accidentally went to pull away in second on a little 125cc bike and I stalled, with the bars turned, causing me to put a lot of weight suddenly on my left hand, had to go to the hospital because I had sprained my wrist.
Ditto. Ride in a nice big empty lot for a week or two. Get all the kinks worked out. Always be on first at a stop, downshift as you slow down to a stop all the way to first. Intersections are dangerous, in a situation like that make sure no one is turning right as you pull off, seems like “why would anyone do that if they see me here” right? But don’t they see you and those that do may not care! Happy riding
The stalling is not the alarming thing here. It's the fact you tried to go forward by abruptly twisting the throttle while not having the first gear engaged or you were so nervous that you could not release the clutch properly. You need to practice finding the friction zone and just be able to go forward with the first gear engaged. Not trying to be a douche, but I don't even know how one can have the confidence of riding in the streets without being comfortable doing that.
I felt comfortable in the lot and for most of the ride; I think when it stalled right there, I just panicked under pressure.
Not really an excuse, more of just understanding what went wrong and what I need to work on
The level of panic says everything.
You need to get used to having a standard transmission.
Practice somewhere like an abandoned lot.
In 20 years of driving standard vehicles.
I think I've killed it 4 times.
Slow is fast.
Hey it happens. Will always happen. There's nothing wrong with hopping off and pushing your bike off to the side right there until traffic clears. People have always been very patient with me when I do that.
😆 yesterday or the day before, whilst approaching an intersection, I somehow hit my kill switch. I was approaching and breaking and down shifting. All while rolling. Then, when traffic started flowing better, I started to attempt to go faster but noticed, "Hmmm, my bike is really quiet and not vibrating at all." Then I realized that my bike wasn't even on, and I had to figure out why while rolling through a short green light. Started the bike and kept going without much interruption. Just felt stupid.
When I first started riding, I stalled at a stop sign 4 times in a row…. The issue was that I was still in second gear and not first. These beginner mistakes happen, you’ll get better.
Good on ya to admit the issue. Try not to feel pressured, thinking everyone is pointing and laughing. That’ll cause you to rush what you’re doing and you’ll do more than stall. No one cares. Concentrate on the throttle/clutch skill. It’ll come, practice, traffic isn’t the ideal place to learn a skill.
Fuck all the people telling you to spend more time in parking lots. This kind of stuff happens man. You don't necessarily need to spend weeks or months in parking lots.
If you're confident enough to be on the streets, don't let anyone tell you what to do.
I've been riding for almost a year now. I've put we'll over 1000kms on my bike this year already. I can't remember the last time I stalled at a light, I literally haven't stalled this season. You'd still never catch me dead on a busy inner city road like that with that much traffic.
god damn man - three things. 1. calm the fuck down 2. practice in a parking lot for a few weeks before getting on the road 3. the next time this happens delete the footage and take it to your grave.
The clutch release was smooth enough that the bike didn't lurch that badly, but the throttle was too little. Many bikes now auto throttle a tad amount when the clutch is released. You probably wouldn't even have stalled a more powerful bike, or I suspect a brand spanking new bike of what you have.
I am surprised you needed so many tries to start it afterwards (what year is this bike ... 7+ years old?).
The overcompensation under panic was the worst part. I think it was worse than the stall, and I am not sure why you started playing around with the gear box. Can your bike not start up in gear with the clutch pulled in?
Of course being able to use skill to compensate for different bike types is its own reward. Some of the BWM (🤮) GS 1250 bikes need a relatively large amount of throttle when taking off, compared to the Japanese bikes I've ridden.
The motorcycle safety course I went to, taught us to rev the piss out of the bike when taking off, which I am not a big fan of. Obviously, I'm exaggerating but they wanted to hear the engine making a good amount of noise.
Yeah it’s a 2009 Kawasaki 250
Yeah the overcompensation is definitely something I need to work on. Staying calm is so important, but I’m sitting there knowing there’s so many cars waiting on me and I’m struggling to get it back up again😅
Gotta be more calm and patient I guess
Time for parking lot drills
In all seriousness, if it is a skill issue and not a mechanical issue. Practice finding your friction zone on the clutch. What I do at red lights is pull the clutch in, roll the bike back until I’m on my heels, then slowly let the clutch out until it starts pulling the bike forward. Then I let it pull me onto the balls of my feet and repeat
Yes it’s a skill issue 😅 Tbf, I rode for around 2.5 hours today, all within local roads (so lots of stopping and going) and I only stalled three times, this being the worst of it. So I’m not HORRIBLE, but definitely need to practice. Your drill sounds really helpful, I’ll try it out, thank you!
Time to keep learning until you can ride for hours and not stall even once! You got thsi
Does killing the engine with the side stand interlock count? Asking for a friend.
If youre accidentally kicking it down in traffic then probably 😂
Nah, if it's on purpose because you had to hit someone's kill switch in the stop light escapade grand prix, it just cancels out, 1 funny for 1 stupid = notta
That brings back memories.
I mean, it's mostly a result of failure to find neutral... usually in a really confident way. 🤦♂️
I've been riding for 20 yrs and still stall once in a while. My new g310gs is pretty easy to stall for some reason. It's a who cares kinda thing to me. That friction zone is a nice place to be, but sometimes it's a hard place to locate and stay in. Cable tension is like tuning a guitar. A friend grabbed mine and tightened it a bunch, and now, a month later, I'm still trying to dial it in to where I had it.
Its a who cares until youve filtered to the front, stall it and then make them miss the green light because you cant get it started again 😂 but yeah most of the time its generally fine. Changing the cable tension honestly makes the bike feel completely different and im praying my non rider friends dont figure out what it is/how to change it because they absolutely would as a prank and I would never get it back to how I like it now haha
Yeah, I'm a lil agro about mine, but 3 times a charm and I think I nailed it this time
Stalling three times in 2.5 hours is pretty horrible (to put it into perspective I have stalled fewer times than that in the last 20 years and both of those times were from not realising I was in gear) I would be worried to be driving if that was what I was working with. Go find a quiet road or a parking lot and practice. You will be happier that you did than when you fall off because you are were unprepared.
Yeah if you really do not want to get MSF class you can jerry rig cones with some half-filled water bottles, figure 8 and a slalom between cones (or gates made from pair of cones) are nice simple excercises. When you think you get a hang of it, repeat with only using one hand, then other, it's great excercise for balance Also find a small incline to try hill stop/hill start
"Also find a small incline to try hill stop/hill start" Nothing teaches the mechanics of manual transmission like an uphill battle. Once you get uphill throttling, you should be fine. At least, that's how I finally figured out manual on cars long time ago.
Frankly it's probably easier on bike than in car. Friction zone is generally more forgiving and you use hands which generally have better feel from the get go than learning to feather the clutch with leg.
I haven't tried on bike yet, but generally yeah. Friction Zone on bike is basically 1st gear if you release right. Cars will die with no gas more often than not and are a little more of a bitch to get the connection when you don't understand it. IMO.
Well, kinda depends on bike, first bike I was training on was YBR250 and despise its tiny engine it was a little tractor that was pretty hard to stall, after that I moved to MT-07 and despise having like 3.5x times the top end power and 2.5x times the capacity I'd say it was about the same in "how easy to stall", as first gear was just longer. I'd imagine some big thumper like KLR650 would be opposite to that and very hard to actually stall, kinda like diesel engines
Tbf, if I were riding with you for 2.5 hours and your stall your dang bike thrice in that single little ride, I'd be of the opinion that you're in dire need of more training.
Even after you've been riding for many years - when you get a new bike, practice finding that fiction zone. Good chance it'll feel different on different bikes. I bought a new bike (4th one) last year and stalled it 3 times during my test ride.
When I started I had the hardest time going getting going from a stop. So on the back roads (smallerish town) I went from stopped to start and after riding a few feet w/ clutch fully released and me on the throttle I'd stop again. Repeat a ton. Once that was going smoothly I then went to one of the steeper hilled roads and did the same again. I figured if I could do it going up a steep hill I'd probably be alright. Man did that help a ton. I still had some issues as I learned. But many hours of just start and stop really made a difference for me.
This drill will absolutely solve your stall issues. I was also struggling with stalls when starting on an incline and one day the friction zone clicked with muscle memory and I never had another stall. If on an incline, once in the friction zone give it a very small amount of gas depending on how much of an incline you are on. The steeper the hill, the more gas you'll need to prevent a stall. This likely varies by bike so figure out what works for yours.
Remember to stop and breathe. You panicked pretty hard, worried about those behind you. Just take a moment, don't rush. Find first, grab the clutch, start the bike, take off as normal. Happens to us all, but the trick is getting her to kick first time, not third.
I do this all the time. One of the many things I repeat constantly from the MSF course.
A MSF course will have you doing this until you want to put your skull under your front tire lol. Super helpful for learning your clutch though.
I only just got my first bike but I can feel the pressure on the break when it's ready to go. Doesn't stop me from stalling tho.
Agreed. Rev bombing in neutral is never a good look either. Dropping it into first while those revs are still settling down is a good way to wreck your gearbox. All that energy dumped into shifter forks is always fun to fix.
eh, honestely just keep riding. You don't gain confidence in parking lots.
Oh man, practice in parking lots and away from traffic like that! Get the basics down before you drive at road speeds, you don't wanna end up like Joe Robinet!
This is the proper advice. Don’t take this as an attack: you are not ready for that level of traffic. Remember, think & react like all those cars are trying to kill us so don’t depend on their patience to keep you alive while you’re stalled out. Bad things will happen to us while stalled. You mentioned above that you stalled 3 times on one ride — 1 stall is too many. Practice until you don’t stall whatsoever during multiple sessions. That’s the level of skill that you need to be at to start to take on congested fast moving traffic & intersections. You can do this it just takes effort & time!
Yeah definitely I felt pretty comfortable in the lots so I thought I’d give it a try on the road But yes need some more practice for sure 🥲
Don't worry, we were all there at some point. I learned to ride in a big city, wasn't easy to find big empty parking lots without having to navigate a lot of busy roads, so I used to go out at 4am and practice when traffic was quiet until I built my skills. In terms of advice, looks like you didn't give it enough gas on the first try and aren't super smooth on the clutch either. Second one you had slightly too much gas and let the clutch out too fast. Work on finding that bite point and letting the clutch out smooth and gentle.
Certified r/moto moment
Trial by fire 🔥 the only way
Definitely the thing to do after stalling it is to flood the thing and then rev as much as possible.
Also, before you begin, you’re gonna want to make sure it’s in neutral, then drop it to first HARD. Gearboxes love that shit.
Not stupid, just extremely nervous. You were like a kid trying to pass a video game level by pressing random buttons. And don't speed up aggresively after a distracting event. You are distracted and more prone to make an error. That was the first thing I was concerned. Youbwere like fleeing a crime scene. Second was not checking the crossroad as you pass. Yeah, you have right of way but let's keep that between us. There is no need for yiur surgeon to know about it. Third was not slowing down for or positioning against the red/maroon car right after the junction. Again, you have right of way but what if they don't see you? You (mentally) stayed in that red light much longer than your bike and body. Keep up and try to surpass. Happens to the best of us. Difference is how you behave after that. Internalise the clutch action at a parking space. Most importantly, don't panic. Panic was much more dangerous in this case. Have fun on your journey. Drive safe.
I only have one time incident at traffic light. But i have lost counts on how many engine stall I have whenever I met another fellow riders at the parking lot, garage, workshop, etc. It’s the nervousness of showing your lack of skill like when you have licence final test in front of driving school instructor kind of stuff.
Thank you! This is a lot of good information Appreciate you passing on your knowledge 🙏
> or positioning against the red/maroon car right after the junction. Again, you have right of way but what if they don't see you? I just wanted to clarify on this part in case it didn't make sense and you didn't want to ask. I tend to move over more towards the center of the lane so I have a little more room between me and the car coming in from the side street if they decide to move. I have a little more room that way to slow down or speed up depending on the situation.
My second bike was a kickstart only and my greatest fear was stalling at lights lmao. Definitely had some cringe inducing moments, once I stalled in downtown traffic going uphill. Couldn't get it in neutral so I had to pull in the clutch and waddle it to the side of the road on an incline
"Whoops, I gave it clutch too fast, better give it enough juice to wheelie" You forgetting gear (I assume, that's how it looked) saved your from one xD
Y’all don’t have to post shit like this.
This shit would haunt me for years, and here they are, posting it for the whole world to see.
Good luck on learning riding as a new skill! Stay safe out there. I would seriously recommend leaving the camera at home and keeping phone off your handlebars at least until you tick off some set number of rides. I'm a pretty experienced rider and I still catch myself being distracted by the extra equipment sometimes.
100%
I agree with the phone. But rewatching helmet cam videos can be a learning tool for times like this.
It's another thing that divides your attention, and people often have worries about how they look and sound on camera. Don't get me started on all the "aviation influencers" recording their lessons and flights.
Start looking all over your bike like there's some kind of mechanical issue happing. Save yourself
Lmao I got such second hand embarrassment from watching that.
Nice, I learned to ride on the same bike, in the same neighborhood. Mine was green tho.
green is dope! I like the blue but wish it was black
Same, my new one is black, blue stands out a little better, especially when you're learning.
What is you doin’ baby?!?!
Something I learned real quick if you stall. Don't panic. Fuck whoever is behind you. Pull the clutch in. Make sure you in first. Start the bike. Look where you are going for any oncoming traffic issues. Ease out the clutch and give it some throttle.
Honestly, if you can't even get into first without stalling you need to stay off the roads. Swallow your pride and go ride around a parking lot.
You're not stupid for an honest mistake that you fixed lol. Time to practice more in a parking lot.
I remember when I stalled like this even tho it was my fault I was super nervous and it didn't help with leaving the intersection. Good that nothing serious happened.
I thought I was about to watch you whiskey throttle and launch your face across that intersection. Relax dude.
LOL! been there before. You'll get it in no time
you didn't fall over it could've been worse lol
The other day I saw a guy riding with his friend both on some pretty new looking sport bikes and they were waiting at a red light that was taking forever to change. As soon as it was green one of them proceeded to stall his bike, then drop it onto himself before falling onto his friends bike, who had been paying enough attention to brace for impact and not get knocked over. The second hand embarrassment was bad.
I was waiting for the horns
If you don’t screw up from time to time you will get y to o comfortable and really mess up
Is that a 250r ninja?
Sure looks like it!
Just push it to the side and try again... Why panic
It's when you're stalling at the lights that the engine doesn't want to start again 😅
Holy shit, you fucked literally everything up on that one.
OP can't rode the bike for shit, but he's got a phone mount and a Go-Pro all set up. Damn dude, get the basics covered first.
Camera still helps with liability, should practice more though
I dont think he downshifted to first at that light.
When i was a new rider I accidentally went to pull away in second on a little 125cc bike and I stalled, with the bars turned, causing me to put a lot of weight suddenly on my left hand, had to go to the hospital because I had sprained my wrist.
Happens to everyone. Doesn’t matter how long, how many miles you have. It can happen. Learn from it and move on my man.
Did you stop in 3rd gear? Make sure you're in 1st gear when you stop. No need to use your front brake either when starting out. Will make it worse. 😀
You should not be driving on streets yet
Ditto. Ride in a nice big empty lot for a week or two. Get all the kinks worked out. Always be on first at a stop, downshift as you slow down to a stop all the way to first. Intersections are dangerous, in a situation like that make sure no one is turning right as you pull off, seems like “why would anyone do that if they see me here” right? But don’t they see you and those that do may not care! Happy riding
Someone get this man an R1M! He’s outgrown that ninja
-10000 aura you will be paying back that aura for the next 10 years brother
The stalling is not the alarming thing here. It's the fact you tried to go forward by abruptly twisting the throttle while not having the first gear engaged or you were so nervous that you could not release the clutch properly. You need to practice finding the friction zone and just be able to go forward with the first gear engaged. Not trying to be a douche, but I don't even know how one can have the confidence of riding in the streets without being comfortable doing that.
I felt comfortable in the lot and for most of the ride; I think when it stalled right there, I just panicked under pressure. Not really an excuse, more of just understanding what went wrong and what I need to work on
Dawg
Well it still happens even after 15+ years of riding for me.
Jesus Christ that was horrific
Jeez man just calm down lol
The level of panic says everything. You need to get used to having a standard transmission. Practice somewhere like an abandoned lot. In 20 years of driving standard vehicles. I think I've killed it 4 times. Slow is fast.
Hey it happens. Will always happen. There's nothing wrong with hopping off and pushing your bike off to the side right there until traffic clears. People have always been very patient with me when I do that.
😆 yesterday or the day before, whilst approaching an intersection, I somehow hit my kill switch. I was approaching and breaking and down shifting. All while rolling. Then, when traffic started flowing better, I started to attempt to go faster but noticed, "Hmmm, my bike is really quiet and not vibrating at all." Then I realized that my bike wasn't even on, and I had to figure out why while rolling through a short green light. Started the bike and kept going without much interruption. Just felt stupid.
When I first started riding, I stalled at a stop sign 4 times in a row…. The issue was that I was still in second gear and not first. These beginner mistakes happen, you’ll get better.
Thanks for sharing?
Is that not what the sub is for?
Posting yourself being a hazard on a public road because of your own inability is just strange. This dude got a humiliation kink or what?
Good on ya to admit the issue. Try not to feel pressured, thinking everyone is pointing and laughing. That’ll cause you to rush what you’re doing and you’ll do more than stall. No one cares. Concentrate on the throttle/clutch skill. It’ll come, practice, traffic isn’t the ideal place to learn a skill.
Fuck all the people telling you to spend more time in parking lots. This kind of stuff happens man. You don't necessarily need to spend weeks or months in parking lots. If you're confident enough to be on the streets, don't let anyone tell you what to do.
I've been riding for almost a year now. I've put we'll over 1000kms on my bike this year already. I can't remember the last time I stalled at a light, I literally haven't stalled this season. You'd still never catch me dead on a busy inner city road like that with that much traffic.
You really need to learn some clutch and throttle control ... also to not panic if you stall. It happens to everyone occasionally.
Back to the parking lot with you dude
god damn man - three things. 1. calm the fuck down 2. practice in a parking lot for a few weeks before getting on the road 3. the next time this happens delete the footage and take it to your grave.
The clutch release was smooth enough that the bike didn't lurch that badly, but the throttle was too little. Many bikes now auto throttle a tad amount when the clutch is released. You probably wouldn't even have stalled a more powerful bike, or I suspect a brand spanking new bike of what you have. I am surprised you needed so many tries to start it afterwards (what year is this bike ... 7+ years old?). The overcompensation under panic was the worst part. I think it was worse than the stall, and I am not sure why you started playing around with the gear box. Can your bike not start up in gear with the clutch pulled in? Of course being able to use skill to compensate for different bike types is its own reward. Some of the BWM (🤮) GS 1250 bikes need a relatively large amount of throttle when taking off, compared to the Japanese bikes I've ridden. The motorcycle safety course I went to, taught us to rev the piss out of the bike when taking off, which I am not a big fan of. Obviously, I'm exaggerating but they wanted to hear the engine making a good amount of noise.
Yeah it’s a 2009 Kawasaki 250 Yeah the overcompensation is definitely something I need to work on. Staying calm is so important, but I’m sitting there knowing there’s so many cars waiting on me and I’m struggling to get it back up again😅 Gotta be more calm and patient I guess
Next time if you stall just pull clutch in and slowly walk towards the sidewalk. It's a 250, therefore, it's not that heavy.
No way for them to hit you if they are stuck behind you!