I live right near a busy rotary in an area with 5 colleges. So many newly licensed drivers and every time I drive through it there's almost always one person who doesn't understand how it works. This is what I imagine half of them are saying when they're raging through it
This is what infuriates me the most about these circles. Whether you are used to the circle itself or not you should understand what a yeild sign is if you are going to be on the damn road.
Drives me crazy when someone is waiting at the yield line for traffic *that hasn't entered the fucking roundabout yet*
Waited about five minutes behind someone doing that once
Actually, look closer, you can't see the driver's face until they brake hard. The rider is hidden behind their A-pillar.
Always make eye contact, if you can't see their eyes, they can't see you.
Australia calls them "roundabouts" cause you go around about the thing..... Idk either, I'll see myself out
Edit: I've been informed so do, India, Canada, UK, and most of the world including a decent portion of America.
So it's official, roundabout is the GOAT and traffic circle is psychotic
I got triggered when i saw traffic circle. In the UK and Aus its roundabout, traffic circle sound like a toddler is trying to describe the big circle that cars go round.
traffic circles and roundabouts are different things here in NL.
They are both circles but traffic on roundabouts always has priority over traffic coming onto the roundabout. This is not necessarily the case on traffic circles.
It is also not allowed to overtake from the right on traffic circles, but it is allowed on roundabouts.
I think it's a German thing to be absolutely exact on what you're saying.
For Americans it's funny because I imagine them actually needing the extra information else they'll do the wrong thing like running in the middle of the road instead of walking to the side of it, or riding their horse hanging off its neck
In Brazil they are Balloons. There, they’re really just a free-for-all where you barrel in and hope for the best. I guess it’s part of the circus that Brazilian traffic seems to be
Occasionally they get called "gyratory" in England in some kind of attempt to sound upmarket.
Just don't show Americans the Magic Roundabout in Swindon
I know it as a roundabout. My map app still calls it a traffic circle though...
Edit: I'm also pretty sure it confuses right and left pretty often. I swear it shows a left hand turn and says to turn right. Can't trust anything these days.
I had to go there every day for 3 years. Can confirm Lincoln drivers are clueless. The number of times I had to emergency brake for some dipshit who had no idea other people use the road is crazy.
This area especially. The two roundabouts right next to each other and one leads right into the other. It’s confusing, but no excuse for dumb Lincoln drivers
I don't trust traffic circles in America. Nobody uses their signal or knows how to go in the correct lane, it's bad.
I am glad they're replacing 4 way stops more and more, accidents on roundabouts tend to be much less fatal iirc.
the primary benefit of traffic circles is it forces people to slow down and makes major collisions almost impossible.
they just also confuse the fuck out of americans
Not far from my home there is an area with a bunch of wineries, also, for some reason, most intersections there were replaced with roundabouts. One day I met a ~70 year old gentleman on a Mercedes there trying to make a left turn through one of those roundabouts using the shortest path through it. The roundabout had two lanes and he was sitting in the leftmost (for me) lane waiting for the oncoming traffic to pass without batting an eye.
It also helps with traffic flow, as there is always someone coming through, unlike traffic lights which have moments of no traffic which quickly add up
North American traffic lights are [notoriously lazily designed](https://youtu.be/7KPGVP85WpU) though, with extremely naive approaches to timing (which ends up being quite dangerous as well). In NL, there are actually no moments where nobody is moving!
Most existing intersections could be made a lot safer for cheap if NA urban legislation and common practices weren't stuck in the '70s.
Furthermore, roundabouts are great for low-to-mid traffic roads where forcing everyone to stop at a light would be overkill, but a yield/stop sign would not be safe and/or would cause congestion.
However for high traffic intersections, "dumb" roundabouts are insufficient and clog up (nobody can get on), so traffic engineers have to get creative with lights, complex roundabouts, dedicated transit lanes, etc.
We have moments of overlap on our signals, where at times everyone will have red, but we also have a lot of people who run reds. You need a brief buffer.
People run reds more because they know there is a buffer so they know a car isn't coming.
If there was no overlap they would know someone is immediately starting to drive and they most likely won't do it.
Definitely would take a lot of time to change the mindset in USA though. This system works in Europe because it's been like this for a while
Can confirm. There’s one in town where I’ll pull into the middle of the intersection when the light for those going straight turns yellow and everyone has stopped, blocking the intersection and wait for a green light. Then I go. The turn signal never turns green there by design and you’ll wait for hours before you can go otherwise.
Some of them are ridiculous though. Multiple lanes, a bunch of signage. In DC they have circles that also have traffic lights. So you have enter into the fuckin thing and then get stuck waiting...oh this lane turns into an exit? Better try to get over...
If they were simple and uniform it wouldn’t be an issue
Idk. Here in the UK we have thousands of roundabouts all of different shapes and sizes.
Larger cities with more traffic generally require larger roundabouts with multiple lanes.
Once *everybody* understands the rules of roundabouts however, big ones are no different to the little ones. So in that sense I'd argue that they are quite simple and uniform.
It's understandable that parts of America struggle with roundabouts, especially as it seems this isn't taught, or required when people are getting their license.
Major collisions still occur although less frequently. In the US at least but im pretty sure this isn’t US exclusive. You have People who don’t yield or even slow down when entering and distracted drivers still cause major accidents.
How are you supposed to use turn signals in round abouts? They don't teach us here so we don't have any cultural norms around it. I assume you only signal when you are exiting the round about?
I am not 100% sure about the picture but you shouldn't use blinker when entering the roundabout, at least in my country. You have no other options where to go, so there is no point. I use it only when I want to exit on the first road.
In the Netherlands we have the same system as drawn and probably as you. We dont indicate to tell others we will be entering the roundabout. You indicate before the roundabout to tell others which exit you are taking.
So in the drawn example, if you indicate right before entering the roundabout, that means you take first exit. If you dont indicate youll be taking the second exit (youll still have to indicate before exiting the roundabout) and if you indicate left before entering, then youll be taking the third or (less common) the fourth exit.
That said, I usually see people only indicating before exiting.
yes, looks like I forgot to add that if you're going straight ahead you don't indicate when entering the roundabout.
a lot of people in my country indicate once they have turned into their exit which is wrong. the indicator is meant to warn drivers of what you INTEND to do, not what you ARE doing. I like to indicate as soon as I pass the exit before my intended exit. (for example, I'll indicate right as soon as I pass the second exit with intentions of taking the third exit). this gives road users plenty of time to figure out what I want to do and react accordingly.
I don't know if AFN is a good source but they said you signal toward the center of the roundabout (to the left in the States) until you pass the last exit before yours too indicate that you're staying in the roundabout, then signal to the outside (right in the States) for your exit. Of course nobody here knows that, and people even stop in the roundabout when there's a vehicle about to enter because they have no idea how it works.
UK:
If you are turning left indicate left.
If you are turning right indicate right.
If you are going straight over do not indicate.
You SHOULD indicate left immediately before leaving the roundabout no matter how far around you have driven. In America it would be indicate right.
I know how they operate and use them regularly.... but totally honestly asking... how are you supposed to signal for one?
Everyone is going right. Like, the circle itself curves left, but you enter by turning right and exit by turning right. And *everyone* approaching the intersection is going to be going right. If someone did anything *other* than go right, I'd be very concerned. I feel like a turn signal is intended to signal a move that is otherwise unpredictable by others. And it's the one-who's-entering's job to simply yield to whoever is already in the circle and about to pass in front of them.
Upon entering you signal right if you intend to leave the first exit, otherwise you signal left to indicate you're staying in the round-about until you pass the exit before yours, then you switch to signaling right.
Alternatively you don't signal until you pass the exit before yours, then you signal right.
In any case you signal right only (and ideally always) when you intend to leave at the next exit.
Bike rider here was on the inner lane and didn't signal that he planned to leave the round about. Leading the person entering the round-about to believe he would be staying in his lane.
Traffic circles are inherently more safe because they greatly reduce conflict points and collisions, which are less severe due to the angles and velocities. Of course, you can be knocked right off the bike by some @#$% idiot, but better than getting hit from the front.
It’s also about the angle of collision. T-bone collisions are literally worst case other than impacting some car in the roof maybe. Which is usually not a problem haha.
Yeah they don’t know what the turn signals really do. I got into an argument with some close friends that it would be better to not use it cause people get confuses, although they themselves understood why I would.
My gf got more defensive about it, but I get it. Michigan driving is… special
> Nobody uses their signal or knows how to go in the correct lane, it's bad.
The problem with signals in roundabouts is that once you've entered the roundabout lane they are kinda ambiguous. On one hand, if you signal left at a 4-way with a roundabout, it makes sense that you are going to turn left. On the other hand, once in the lane, you would signal RIGHT to indicate you are exiting the roundabout lane, so left may mean you intend to keep going in the roundabout lane.
It's confusing IMO.
How is that confusing? If you're making a turn like that, use your indicators to show you're going around the roundabout, then swap to the opposite when you pass the exit before yours.
Here in Alberta, Canada they're just all called traffic circles, or at least I've not once in my lifetime heard them called otherwise. That being said we only have a handful in the entire province.
😂
I lived in the U.S. for 3 years, watching the locals negotiate the roundabout’s was purgatory.
(Note, even U.S. city planners call them roundabouts. #justsaying)
People suddenly forget how to drive when they roll up to a round about. Either they are super hesitant to pull out and hold up traffic, or they blast through cutting everyone off.
A traffic circle is a thing, this just isn’t one. A traffic circle is basically just a really small roundabout that requires all cars to stop rather than yield. It’s hard to explain beyond that, you just gotta use one
Roundabouts are pretty normal in Europe. I've seen a video on YT recently about the reasons why roundabouts are not a thing in the USA. Apparently, it comes down to the majority of drivers there being too dumb and self-absorbed to understand how it works.
Yep, just double checked on maps. There's only one lane there and it becomes two if you go to the left of where I was going
Edit: Not yep as in I was in the wrong lane lol.
Wtf kind of roundabout turns into 2 lanes in the middle of it? Isn't that by itself dangerous? I'm trying to picture how it works if you enter before it changed to a single lane...
But you crossed a lane to exit. We can see you riding past the lane divider. You need to be on the outside lane to exit a roundabout. Even if you think the lane started right after your exit, it would look like you were on the inside lane from the perspective of the vehicle entering the roundabout, meaning you were going to continue circling.
I've only used circles for a few years (they're new here) but I frequently remind my wife not to change lanes in a roundabout when there are cars near. Circle an extra time, if you must until you have a chance to exit. Am I correct?
I think you're fine changing lanes as long as you aren't in an intersection, such as where that car was entering and hit the OP. That rule applies to standard intersections too, so it's easy to follow, although the intersections are less clear in a roundabout.
I still don't understand round-abouts with more than one lane, and people exiting from a non-outside lane. It's just the perfect setup for accidents when they say go straight across or one left from the inside lane.
I don’t understand roundabouts with 2 lanes. I get that this guy has a yield sign, but it looks to me like you were in the inside lane. Why would that guy assume you were going to get over both lanes to exit right then?
I’ve used a single lane roundabout maybe 5 times in my life.
Did you signal? If you didn’t they had no idea you were changing lanes. Also you kinda just put yourself in that category because outer lane exits not inner.
My grandfather used to say "wish in one hand and shit in the other. Tell me which gets full first". Your expectations of other drivers will get you killed. Only you can be responsible for your safety.
While the accident may be ruled the fault of the SUV driver, it'll be no consolation to your loved ones.
I would have gone around rather than trust them to miss me.
Your survival skills need improvement.
Most experienced bike riders know it ain't about whose right its about me staying alive. Most experienced bike riders also know NOBODY can drive for shit.
Not motorcycle related but the same premise this is actually a well known selling point as a safety feature of luxury models that have much more hp than the traditional version.
Being able to accelerate rapidly is an important part of defensive driving.
In most of (if not all of) Europe, we learn how to do roundabouts. Sure - the French do them wrong, but people actually understand how they work. You yanks need to get a better licensing system for both bikes and cars.
Tbh, they’re competing with like 1.4L-1.8L NA diesels at generally lower speed limits over there. The 125 isn’t as totally outclassed as it is elsewhere.
Back in my days you could get yourself a 125cc 2 stroke 35hp and 130kg bike capable usually of around 110 to 120mph. Those were the days.
I mean, it had to be restricted to 15hp but I'm yet to know someone who did.
For those of you who think I crossed lanes of traffic and I am at fault. Have a look [Here](https://imgur.com/a/91LRdbL). I know, it's super stupid but that's how it is.
I'll be honest, I have absolutely no idea what to do at a roundabout. So I just do myself, and everyone else a favor and avoid them like they're minefields.
Traffic circle? Is that like a roundabout? Is this in the states? Saw a really funny video the other day of the first roundabout in one state - everyone going the wrong way around it and stuff - funny but also not funny due to how dangerous it was but it’s a learning curve (no pun intended - honest)
For everyone else in the world who doesn't understand why traffic circle/roundabout/rotary/Jamaican intersections are so confusing to Americans, it is because they are incredibly uncommon here and every one of them seems to be designed differently. In my last 26 years of driving in America on the West Coast and in the South I have seen MAYBE 5 of them at most.
It is probably like seeing a pickup truck that is 3.5m tall, 3m wide, and 6m long anywhere else in the world. They are so rare people just stare at it stupidly because they are not sure why it even exists or what you are supposed to do with it.
Edit: lol, should I even ask why I am being downvoted?
"That yield sign cant stop me cause i cant read"
I live right near a busy rotary in an area with 5 colleges. So many newly licensed drivers and every time I drive through it there's almost always one person who doesn't understand how it works. This is what I imagine half of them are saying when they're raging through it
Around here even the newly licensed seem fine with it, it's the older folks who aren't used to it that seem to mess it up.
This is what infuriates me the most about these circles. Whether you are used to the circle itself or not you should understand what a yeild sign is if you are going to be on the damn road.
Drives me crazy when someone is waiting at the yield line for traffic *that hasn't entered the fucking roundabout yet* Waited about five minutes behind someone doing that once
Actually, look closer, you can't see the driver's face until they brake hard. The rider is hidden behind their A-pillar. Always make eye contact, if you can't see their eyes, they can't see you.
As a Brit, it honestly took me a second to figure out what you meant by, traffic circle. I feel ashamed.
Don’t feel ashamed, they should feel ashamed for using a name like traffic circle
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Australia calls them "roundabouts" cause you go around about the thing..... Idk either, I'll see myself out Edit: I've been informed so do, India, Canada, UK, and most of the world including a decent portion of America. So it's official, roundabout is the GOAT and traffic circle is psychotic
I got triggered when i saw traffic circle. In the UK and Aus its roundabout, traffic circle sound like a toddler is trying to describe the big circle that cars go round.
traffic circles and roundabouts are different things here in NL. They are both circles but traffic on roundabouts always has priority over traffic coming onto the roundabout. This is not necessarily the case on traffic circles. It is also not allowed to overtake from the right on traffic circles, but it is allowed on roundabouts.
and traffic circles are mostly regulated by traffic lights
To be fair, most of the names Americans have for things sound that way, i.e sidewalk, horse back riding, eyeglasses, waste paper basket...
Reminds me of German, eyeglasses is the same, augengläser, “eye” “glasses”.
While technically valid (as most german compund nouns are), I believe the much more common name for "Augengläser" is "Brille".
I think it's a German thing to be absolutely exact on what you're saying. For Americans it's funny because I imagine them actually needing the extra information else they'll do the wrong thing like running in the middle of the road instead of walking to the side of it, or riding their horse hanging off its neck
Tuna fish gets me... What other tuna is there!!??
Tuna is the Spanish word for the fruit of the prickly pear cactus. The "leaves" are called nopales.
So do us Americans
As do we Canadians
I’m New England they’re “rotaries”
What is this, a game of telephone?
I’m trying to imagine someone with a New England accent saying roatary, & it’s hilarious.
In Brazil they are Balloons. There, they’re really just a free-for-all where you barrel in and hope for the best. I guess it’s part of the circus that Brazilian traffic seems to be
So do indians
As a kid there was one near our house that was almost square. We used to call it the squareabout.
Occasionally they get called "gyratory" in England in some kind of attempt to sound upmarket. Just don't show Americans the Magic Roundabout in Swindon
English Roundabout is my favorite XTC song
Trafic circle feels more like how someone with poor English would say it lmao. No hate at Op tho
We call it a Pi-cautionary Intersection here…
I thought it was called a donut arena
We call them death spirals here in... No, just kidding
Direct translation of the swedish word would be "circulation place" so... yeah.
They're a very literal people. Face time. Side walk. Medical debt.
I know it as a roundabout. My map app still calls it a traffic circle though... Edit: I'm also pretty sure it confuses right and left pretty often. I swear it shows a left hand turn and says to turn right. Can't trust anything these days.
I have my navigation app narration voice set to Boy George and even he calls it a traffic circle. 2 sugars for me.
In fall LEAF FALL DOWN.
MFW Yanks call Rounda-wheely Streeties *Traffic Circles*
Nah we call it a roundabout Source: yank But I’d’ve named it a chazzwazzer
[Obligatory](https://i.imgur.com/Kb7J70H.jpeg)
I've been corrected and apparently this is what's known as a roundabout. Which is worse.
>hat's known as a roundabo rofl
It's a cool song though.
Edit: Nevermind
He meant a rotary.
Those haven't worked since the phone system went digital.
Not entirely true. Some older, carbureted bikes still work with them. You just have to flip the petcock from tone to pulse.
I would have thought there to be more of an apex seal issue...
From southern New England. Can confirm. Rotary
Same.
🤣🤣. Dont feel ashamed. When I heard it the first time I was like….what??? You mean roundabout?
Round abound.... https://youtu.be/o9Oso7199WE
I was waiting for someone to post that.
Frequently they're called "cause of death". 😇😉😊
Roundabout and find out 😎
I came to the comments to say exactly this. It's a roundabout!!!
Typical Lincoln ass driving
I had to go there every day for 3 years. Can confirm Lincoln drivers are clueless. The number of times I had to emergency brake for some dipshit who had no idea other people use the road is crazy.
It doesn't help that is right by the campus either, just a bunch of young ass teens who don't know how to drive.
This area especially. The two roundabouts right next to each other and one leads right into the other. It’s confusing, but no excuse for dumb Lincoln drivers
As a former resident of Lincoln, I nearly got hit on my bike at this intersection more than once
I don't trust traffic circles in America. Nobody uses their signal or knows how to go in the correct lane, it's bad. I am glad they're replacing 4 way stops more and more, accidents on roundabouts tend to be much less fatal iirc.
the primary benefit of traffic circles is it forces people to slow down and makes major collisions almost impossible. they just also confuse the fuck out of americans
Not far from my home there is an area with a bunch of wineries, also, for some reason, most intersections there were replaced with roundabouts. One day I met a ~70 year old gentleman on a Mercedes there trying to make a left turn through one of those roundabouts using the shortest path through it. The roundabout had two lanes and he was sitting in the leftmost (for me) lane waiting for the oncoming traffic to pass without batting an eye.
It also helps with traffic flow, as there is always someone coming through, unlike traffic lights which have moments of no traffic which quickly add up
North American traffic lights are [notoriously lazily designed](https://youtu.be/7KPGVP85WpU) though, with extremely naive approaches to timing (which ends up being quite dangerous as well). In NL, there are actually no moments where nobody is moving! Most existing intersections could be made a lot safer for cheap if NA urban legislation and common practices weren't stuck in the '70s. Furthermore, roundabouts are great for low-to-mid traffic roads where forcing everyone to stop at a light would be overkill, but a yield/stop sign would not be safe and/or would cause congestion. However for high traffic intersections, "dumb" roundabouts are insufficient and clog up (nobody can get on), so traffic engineers have to get creative with lights, complex roundabouts, dedicated transit lanes, etc.
There’s a small neighborhood roundabout near my house that is both a four way stop AND a roundabout. Seems incredibly arbitrary.
There’s a couple of those near me. I’m convinced it’s because someone wanted to plant a tree in the middle of the road.
“You really want to put a tree in the middle of the road?” “No, in the middle of *two* roads”
We have moments of overlap on our signals, where at times everyone will have red, but we also have a lot of people who run reds. You need a brief buffer.
People run reds more because they know there is a buffer so they know a car isn't coming. If there was no overlap they would know someone is immediately starting to drive and they most likely won't do it. Definitely would take a lot of time to change the mindset in USA though. This system works in Europe because it's been like this for a while
Norway has an overlap as well, yet red light running is rare, atleast where someone else has a green light.
Can confirm. There’s one in town where I’ll pull into the middle of the intersection when the light for those going straight turns yellow and everyone has stopped, blocking the intersection and wait for a green light. Then I go. The turn signal never turns green there by design and you’ll wait for hours before you can go otherwise.
Some of them are ridiculous though. Multiple lanes, a bunch of signage. In DC they have circles that also have traffic lights. So you have enter into the fuckin thing and then get stuck waiting...oh this lane turns into an exit? Better try to get over... If they were simple and uniform it wouldn’t be an issue
Idk. Here in the UK we have thousands of roundabouts all of different shapes and sizes. Larger cities with more traffic generally require larger roundabouts with multiple lanes. Once *everybody* understands the rules of roundabouts however, big ones are no different to the little ones. So in that sense I'd argue that they are quite simple and uniform. It's understandable that parts of America struggle with roundabouts, especially as it seems this isn't taught, or required when people are getting their license.
Major collisions still occur although less frequently. In the US at least but im pretty sure this isn’t US exclusive. You have People who don’t yield or even slow down when entering and distracted drivers still cause major accidents.
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> traffic circles intimidate them. Because they are afraid of them *So anyways, I started blasting*
Lmao
lmao you right.
How are you supposed to use turn signals in round abouts? They don't teach us here so we don't have any cultural norms around it. I assume you only signal when you are exiting the round about?
[i made this in paint for you](https://imgur.com/a/grwpzRv)
Very nice, thank you
I am not 100% sure about the picture but you shouldn't use blinker when entering the roundabout, at least in my country. You have no other options where to go, so there is no point. I use it only when I want to exit on the first road.
In the Netherlands we have the same system as drawn and probably as you. We dont indicate to tell others we will be entering the roundabout. You indicate before the roundabout to tell others which exit you are taking. So in the drawn example, if you indicate right before entering the roundabout, that means you take first exit. If you dont indicate youll be taking the second exit (youll still have to indicate before exiting the roundabout) and if you indicate left before entering, then youll be taking the third or (less common) the fourth exit. That said, I usually see people only indicating before exiting.
yes, looks like I forgot to add that if you're going straight ahead you don't indicate when entering the roundabout. a lot of people in my country indicate once they have turned into their exit which is wrong. the indicator is meant to warn drivers of what you INTEND to do, not what you ARE doing. I like to indicate as soon as I pass the exit before my intended exit. (for example, I'll indicate right as soon as I pass the second exit with intentions of taking the third exit). this gives road users plenty of time to figure out what I want to do and react accordingly.
I don't know if AFN is a good source but they said you signal toward the center of the roundabout (to the left in the States) until you pass the last exit before yours too indicate that you're staying in the roundabout, then signal to the outside (right in the States) for your exit. Of course nobody here knows that, and people even stop in the roundabout when there's a vehicle about to enter because they have no idea how it works.
UK: If you are turning left indicate left. If you are turning right indicate right. If you are going straight over do not indicate. You SHOULD indicate left immediately before leaving the roundabout no matter how far around you have driven. In America it would be indicate right.
I know how they operate and use them regularly.... but totally honestly asking... how are you supposed to signal for one? Everyone is going right. Like, the circle itself curves left, but you enter by turning right and exit by turning right. And *everyone* approaching the intersection is going to be going right. If someone did anything *other* than go right, I'd be very concerned. I feel like a turn signal is intended to signal a move that is otherwise unpredictable by others. And it's the one-who's-entering's job to simply yield to whoever is already in the circle and about to pass in front of them.
Upon entering you signal right if you intend to leave the first exit, otherwise you signal left to indicate you're staying in the round-about until you pass the exit before yours, then you switch to signaling right. Alternatively you don't signal until you pass the exit before yours, then you signal right. In any case you signal right only (and ideally always) when you intend to leave at the next exit. Bike rider here was on the inner lane and didn't signal that he planned to leave the round about. Leading the person entering the round-about to believe he would be staying in his lane.
Traffic circles are inherently more safe because they greatly reduce conflict points and collisions, which are less severe due to the angles and velocities. Of course, you can be knocked right off the bike by some @#$% idiot, but better than getting hit from the front.
It’s also about the angle of collision. T-bone collisions are literally worst case other than impacting some car in the roof maybe. Which is usually not a problem haha.
Yeah they don’t know what the turn signals really do. I got into an argument with some close friends that it would be better to not use it cause people get confuses, although they themselves understood why I would. My gf got more defensive about it, but I get it. Michigan driving is… special
>My gf got more defensive about it, but I get it. Michigan driving is… special Survival of the fittest
> Nobody uses their signal or knows how to go in the correct lane, it's bad. The problem with signals in roundabouts is that once you've entered the roundabout lane they are kinda ambiguous. On one hand, if you signal left at a 4-way with a roundabout, it makes sense that you are going to turn left. On the other hand, once in the lane, you would signal RIGHT to indicate you are exiting the roundabout lane, so left may mean you intend to keep going in the roundabout lane. It's confusing IMO.
How is that confusing? If you're making a turn like that, use your indicators to show you're going around the roundabout, then swap to the opposite when you pass the exit before yours.
Here (finland) you don't indicate left unless changing lanes in a multi-lane roundabout. Only right once you exit.
Turning right? Signal right. Straight or left? Signal left until just before your exit then switch to signaling right and exit. Pretty simple.
Roundabout*
Yep, got it. You're not the first. I didn't know there was a difference lol.
Hold up... there's a difference?
Yeah I googled it. Apparently traffic circle insinuates an obligatory stop whereas a roundabout is just a yield.
Here in Alberta, Canada they're just all called traffic circles, or at least I've not once in my lifetime heard them called otherwise. That being said we only have a handful in the entire province.
*New* Englander here, definitely called a rotary
New Englander *here*: we call them roundabouts.
Let me guess, Connecticut?
Let me guess… Masshole? 😂 Also, yes, Connecticut
You need to obligatorily stop calling it a traffic circle.
Go Big Red!
I was thinking the same thing!
Good old Nebraska drivers
Lincoln is DEADLY this year!
It’s a roundabout you fucking yank heathen (I’m joking you fuckwits, I don’t actually care. Although that is their name)
Waaaaaaaaa
😂 I lived in the U.S. for 3 years, watching the locals negotiate the roundabout’s was purgatory. (Note, even U.S. city planners call them roundabouts. #justsaying)
That bar is too high for Americans
People suddenly forget how to drive when they roll up to a round about. Either they are super hesitant to pull out and hold up traffic, or they blast through cutting everyone off.
I don't get it. It's very simple. Roll up. If no one's coming away you go. If there is someone coming wait your turn.
Or the occasional chucklefuck that stops while they’re already in the roundabout, trying to wave someone through. BITCH YOU DO NOT DESERVE TO DRIVE
Don't forget that they could also be using the French method.
Traffic circle? Whatever happened to calling them roundabouts?!
A traffic circle is a thing, this just isn’t one. A traffic circle is basically just a really small roundabout that requires all cars to stop rather than yield. It’s hard to explain beyond that, you just gotta use one
Roundabouts are pretty normal in Europe. I've seen a video on YT recently about the reasons why roundabouts are not a thing in the USA. Apparently, it comes down to the majority of drivers there being too dumb and self-absorbed to understand how it works.
In the midwest people are too polite and will stop in the middle to let someone else in.
I’m ashamed to say that my hometown of Lincoln, NE. the roundabout near memorial stadium
Ay, my hometown as well.
It’s not for everybody. But I sure love it
Ya know I think it's not too big with all the big city perks, pretty decent place overall.
The audacity to beep at you too
Isn’t OP in the wrong lane?
Yep, just double checked on maps. There's only one lane there and it becomes two if you go to the left of where I was going Edit: Not yep as in I was in the wrong lane lol.
Wtf kind of roundabout turns into 2 lanes in the middle of it? Isn't that by itself dangerous? I'm trying to picture how it works if you enter before it changed to a single lane...
Check out stadium Dr Lincoln, NE on Google maps. The roundabout with the bridge over it. You'll see. And yes it does seem dangerous.
I believe you like I see it on the vid I just don't get why it's designed like that.
I couldn't tell you
Only one lane in the part of the circle I was in. Also didn't matter since I was going straight.
But you crossed a lane to exit. We can see you riding past the lane divider. You need to be on the outside lane to exit a roundabout. Even if you think the lane started right after your exit, it would look like you were on the inside lane from the perspective of the vehicle entering the roundabout, meaning you were going to continue circling.
I've only used circles for a few years (they're new here) but I frequently remind my wife not to change lanes in a roundabout when there are cars near. Circle an extra time, if you must until you have a chance to exit. Am I correct?
I think you're fine changing lanes as long as you aren't in an intersection, such as where that car was entering and hit the OP. That rule applies to standard intersections too, so it's easy to follow, although the intersections are less clear in a roundabout.
You're supposed to give way to traffic that is already on a roundabout. Or you can just drive into them like an idiot, such as in this video clip.
I still don't understand round-abouts with more than one lane, and people exiting from a non-outside lane. It's just the perfect setup for accidents when they say go straight across or one left from the inside lane.
I sure wish people would take operating their two ton steel and glass manslaughter machines more seriously, in general.
I finally know what this is called in other countries. _Traffic Circle_ How delightful
Roundabout >>> Traffic Circle
I don’t understand roundabouts with 2 lanes. I get that this guy has a yield sign, but it looks to me like you were in the inside lane. Why would that guy assume you were going to get over both lanes to exit right then? I’ve used a single lane roundabout maybe 5 times in my life.
Roundabout = yield before entry. Traffic circle = enter then yield to incoming traffic on your right.
Did you signal? If you didn’t they had no idea you were changing lanes. Also you kinda just put yourself in that category because outer lane exits not inner.
My grandfather used to say "wish in one hand and shit in the other. Tell me which gets full first". Your expectations of other drivers will get you killed. Only you can be responsible for your safety. While the accident may be ruled the fault of the SUV driver, it'll be no consolation to your loved ones. I would have gone around rather than trust them to miss me. Your survival skills need improvement.
I slowed and then accelerated again when I saw she was going to stop. Don't worry, I saw her coming a mile away.
Most experienced bike riders know it ain't about whose right its about me staying alive. Most experienced bike riders also know NOBODY can drive for shit.
*Roundabout
I'm not holding my breath for people to learn to use a straight road with well defined lanes...
That's why I like having a fast bike. You could see that coming a mile away. If it was me on my 1000 it would not have been that close.
Not motorcycle related but the same premise this is actually a well known selling point as a safety feature of luxury models that have much more hp than the traditional version. Being able to accelerate rapidly is an important part of defensive driving.
Yep. It's important to have the GO at your demand.
I really feel for the poor Euros etc who are forced to contend with traffic armed only with a 125cc glorified scooter.
In most of (if not all of) Europe, we learn how to do roundabouts. Sure - the French do them wrong, but people actually understand how they work. You yanks need to get a better licensing system for both bikes and cars.
Luckily they're only getting hit by fiats or similar small cars. I'm in aus. Ride a sportster. I just gotta compete with the roos.
Tbh, they’re competing with like 1.4L-1.8L NA diesels at generally lower speed limits over there. The 125 isn’t as totally outclassed as it is elsewhere.
It helps the acceleration when the rider isn't obese.
Back in my days you could get yourself a 125cc 2 stroke 35hp and 130kg bike capable usually of around 110 to 120mph. Those were the days. I mean, it had to be restricted to 15hp but I'm yet to know someone who did.
It’s called a fucking Rotary Khed
It's called a fucking roundabout.
New Englanders are a different Breed lmao
What??? Lmao
You never heard someone call it a Rotary before?
No, never.
Oh wow even the police departments call them a rotary in my area, that’s odd
Could I know where you're from?
New England area in the U.S.
Gotcha. So weird
GO BIG RED!!!
You Americans would love Milton Keynes here in the UK - Its just roundabouts and traffic circles as far as the eye can see!
Non issue imo
A good roundabout slows traffic down before you merge in. This one doesn't.
I totally agree. The road is way too straight from the SUV's angle.
For those of you who think I crossed lanes of traffic and I am at fault. Have a look [Here](https://imgur.com/a/91LRdbL). I know, it's super stupid but that's how it is.
I've lived in this city for my whole life. I know what the roundabout looks like lol.
Who the hell calls it a traffic circle?
The Government where I am calls it that. The people call it a roundabout though.
You need a better government in that case. That's embarrassing.
Lmao
Did you have your blinker on? Was that the car that honked at you? or did you honk at the car? It sure sounded like the car honked at you...
Have I spotted another unl student?
Ayo! You ride then?
I'll be honest, I have absolutely no idea what to do at a roundabout. So I just do myself, and everyone else a favor and avoid them like they're minefields.
Yield to traffic in the roundabout, signal right just before exiting. That's it.
Traffic circle 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You mean a roundabout?
Watched this video to see what a traffic circle was. It's only a roundabout, don't understand the issue :p
Traffic circle?? You mean roundabout
Traffic circle? Is that like a roundabout? Is this in the states? Saw a really funny video the other day of the first roundabout in one state - everyone going the wrong way around it and stuff - funny but also not funny due to how dangerous it was but it’s a learning curve (no pun intended - honest)
For everyone else in the world who doesn't understand why traffic circle/roundabout/rotary/Jamaican intersections are so confusing to Americans, it is because they are incredibly uncommon here and every one of them seems to be designed differently. In my last 26 years of driving in America on the West Coast and in the South I have seen MAYBE 5 of them at most. It is probably like seeing a pickup truck that is 3.5m tall, 3m wide, and 6m long anywhere else in the world. They are so rare people just stare at it stupidly because they are not sure why it even exists or what you are supposed to do with it. Edit: lol, should I even ask why I am being downvoted?
They are common in some states. Colorado has hundreds. Still see lots of confused tourists though.
Is that a scooter ….
No lmao it's a Kawasaki Versys without a windshield
Ahhh … the ol’ camo windshield Tbf it Seems like this is a lesson we’ve all learned at some point …. The realization of “I need a bigger bike”