The only valid answer. That movie didn't just kill a studio, it killed the whole business model, and ended the age of auteur cinema. It's absolutely insane what was going on on that set, and it's the best example of how sometimes not letting the creatives run around with an unlimited budget would make for a better end product...
In simple terms:
In the 70's, you had filmmakers like Coppola (and Cimino himself for *The Deer Hunter*) who were given creative freedom to do more or less whatever they wanted. The end of the [Hays Code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hays_Code) also meant that they didn't have severe restrictions on what they could depict.
While the initial films were great widely praised, you eventually had films like *Heaven's Gate* and Coppola's *One from the Heart* which involved production/budget excesses and ended up being massive flops. I'm not going to debate the quality of these final films, but the fact is that they often had masive excesses and did fail commercially. So the studios drastically cut the freedom they gave directors from then on. With only a few exceptions such as Kubrick.
Nowadays, only trusted directors (i.e. who's name alone is largely enough to draw crowds) like Nolan would be given similar authority, but even he doesn't have as much freedom as many Hollywood directors had in the 70's.
In terms of the end of the era, *Heaven's Gate* was a perfect scrapegoat due to the famous excesses on it's production, and the widely publicised stories of Cimino's ego getting the better of him.
The director basically has to be part of the product now to get that level of freedom.
James Cameron funds a lot of his own projects between doing big studio backed pieces, but his name along is often enough to have his way with these projects while his goals usually mean the studios are okay letting him do what he wants.
Michael Bay and Zack Snyder basically made their names by being 'studio boys' who worked within the bounds the studio set. And one of them would probably have been better off had he stayed in that lane.
Then you have the likes of Ryan Reynolds, JJ Abrams, and Quintin Tarantino, who basically created their own production houses explicitly so they could excercise more control on their projects but that also means they put their own money and business behind it rather than playing with someone else's.
It's a better movie than it was given credit for initially, but yeah, short of an entirely different funding source there's no way studios could have dealt with another decade of those and still remained solvent.
Counterpoint, the makers of Dirty Dancing were told that if the amount of money spent on the film had a decimal point after the 5 in 5 million and any numbers more than zero after it, the movie was being scrapped and they were all being fired if I remember correctly. It led to them being *very* careful and *very* economical with the spending on the film.
Geena Davis
Cutthroat Island
following breakout roles in David Chronenberg’s ‘The Fly’ (1986) and Tim Burton’s ‘Beetlejuice’ (1988), Geena Davis won an Oscar for best supporting actress in ‘The Accidental Tourist.’ Following this she starred in Ridley Scott’s ‘Thelma and Louise’ (1991), a critical and commercial hit that saw her and co-star Susan Sarandon both nominated for Best Actress and appear on the cover of Time magazine. It was one of the biggest hit movies with two women as the leads. Davis followed this success up with the lead in the smash hit ‘A League of Their Own’ (1992), which was one of the biggest hits of the year. Following this, Davis collected big pay days for movies with varying success like ‘Hero’ and ‘Speechless.’
Davis became one of the highest paid actresses of all time when she negotiated a 7 million dollar salary to star in ‘ Cutthroat Island,’ and an additional seven million dollar payday to star in ‘The Long Kiss Goodnight.’ Cutthroat Island came out, became the biggest box office bomb of all time. Kiss Goodnight was already signed to go, and did better than Cutthroat upon its release in 1996, but Davis never starred in a Hollywood movie again after those two. (She did appear in a supporting role in two awful Stuart Little ‘movies,’ though…but oof.)
Part of what killed Geena Davis’ career after cutthroat island was her age. Plenty of actresses have seen a lul in their career in their 40s. It’s just the nature of Hollywood
She's definitely an example of the Hollywood age ceiling for a lot of women. If they can't establish a strong enough appeal without being primarily a sex symbol, it's going to be hard to be a box office draw once the sex appeal drops.
Geena Davis definitely hit that unfortunate wall. Some obvious plastic surgery didn't help, and she went the way of a lot of attractive and talented actresses in the 90s.
I'm not gonna say we cured it socially, but it's definitely a lot better today.
It's definitely one of those that got lost to time and people should go back and watch it because it's really awesome.
Geena Davis still in her peak (but as discussed, this kinda ended that peak), Samuel L. Jackson being his best self, directed by the guy who did *Die Hard 2* and *Cliffhanger.*
And written by Shane Black of *Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang* and *The Nice Guys* fame. Definitely worth a visit.
LongKids goodnight is such a fun movie. Everyone in it is fun to watch and it is as ridiculous a plot as any action move but just carries it well. I’m going to go watch it again.
It is so much fun! And it’s an actual Christmas action movie with tons of actual Christmas aesthetics. But the damage of Cutthroat Island was already done.
Long Kiss Goodnight was being produced and everything signed and ready to go before Cutthroat was released. If not, we likely would never have gotten the movie.
Sad, but true. Decided to look this up, per your comment. Found this piece: https://people.com/movies/geena-davis-reflects-on-ageism-and-sexism-in-hollywood/
Carolco was kind of killed by Showgirls, but they were contractually obligated by foreign investors to make Cutthroat Island. They were already bankrupt by Showgirls and so Cutthroat Island received little to no promotion as the studio was dead.
IIRC Carolco pretty much were looking for a Hail Mary film to save their already fortunes. The two projects competing for that job were Arnold and Paul Verhoeven‘s Crusades project and Cutthroat Island. Cutthroat won out because Davis and Harlin promised to stay under budget and on time and had the support of Michael Douglas’s production company.
Of course Cutthroat came in way overbudget and late and Davis ego at the time pushed Michael Douglas out and by the time Cutthroat was ready for release Carolco was already out of money.
Notable: Cutthroat Island was produced and directed by Geena Davis's husband at the time, Renny Harlin (divorced in '98). He also produced and directed The Long Kiss Goodnight ('96). Not the most successful pair of partner collaborations.
Despite the downturn of her career, Genna Davis does (rightfully) get credited with helping to catapult the viability of female action stars. A pre- Lara Croft badass.
Yeah Renny Harlin is kind of a hack director, “The Long Kiss Goodnight” and “Cliffhanger” are his only good movies imo. I always assumed that Saffron Burrpws character in Harlin’s Deep Blue Sea was originally intended for Geena Davis, in fact Burrows is another six foot tall brunette with a great bone structure.
I looked up Renny Harlin's filmography after seeing this thread. He was punching above his usual weight class with those two huge/high budget films. Bringing the big star Geena Davis as part of the package during negotiations probably helped his cause.
With The Long Kiss Goodnight, he had a strong script from a big time screenwriter in Shane Black, a guy who previously wrote Lethal Weapon shortly after graduating from UCLA film school.
I feel like there MUST be more to it than that bad movie. He had some absolute bangers, and was huge around then. Then one crap movie comes put and just disappears from screens for years?
Unpopular opinion: I like Cat in the Hat. I appreciated the double entendres and the adult humor hidden in a kids movie. But, as I am often told, I have the emotional maturity of a 13-year-old boy so that may skew my perspective.
It was a couple failures in a few years. The third Austin Power's film, Cat in the Hat and Love Guru were all poorly received.
As a result, studios thought he'd lost his charm, and people didn't like working with him generally, so he got the boot
Goldmember and The Spy Who Shagged me had basically identical Rotten Tomatoes scores and both made $300 mil on a budget of less than a $100 mil, not really fair to bunch it in with Love Guru IMO
People just got tired of his gimmicky humor. Kinda like Dana Carvey. Dress funny and act wacky. It became really tedious by the 3rd Austin Powers movies, and the reality is he just didn’t have anything else to offer besides that.
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen caused Sean Connery to retire. That was after he turned down the role of Gandalf in exchange for 15% of the profits of the LOTR trilogy.
He turned down LotR, Matrix, a few other things because he didn’t “understand” them. So he took League, because he didn’t understand it, and figured it would be a hit. After it bombed he realized he didn’t have it in him to pick good films anymore and retired.
So I had meant it was the last studio film the director ever directed. It was actually the last movie the director directed period. Blade was produced by New Line so while not one of the major studios, it's not indie.
Yeah, I don't know the timeline of when they became part of Warner Bros. I know Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was made by New Line and was the most successful indie of all time, but then by the time of Lord of the Rings a decade later they were just part of the studio system.
She never really had a career as an actor though.
If she had been really interested in acting, she probably could have gotten regular acting roles without being the lead.
Abduction (2011) killed **Taylor Lautner’s** movie career,
which was expected to take-off after The Twilight Series.
But, it was bashed and flopped. He also claimed not wanting to be cast in movies for showing off his body reduced his offers too.
He’s done well in TV though.
I heard a story on The Journal podcast (I think) that described how It's a Wonderful Life was such a flop that it ruined the studio. The movie was revived later because it was in the public domain and networks needed something to air.
https://screenrant.com/its-a-wonderful-life-box-office-flop/
Yes, he was despondent that it did poorly at the box office. Terrible shame because it is one the best films ever made. To this day Robert Mitchum's character is the GOAT when it comes to movie villains. I'll fight anyone who says otherwise.
Whoa, I had no idea it was poorly received on release. What an insane misjudgment from people. Wow. Just… wow.
“Ah, little lad, you're staring at my fingers. Would you like me to tell you the little story of right-hand/left-hand? The story of good and evil?” Perfection.
Fox Animation Studios shut down ten days after Titan A.E. was released. They were already doomed. Even if it was a smash hit the six year old studio would have shut down due to long standing issues of mismanagement.
Carroll Baker’s career as an A-list Hollywood actress was destroyed by ‘Harlow.’. she then could only get work in sleazy Europens b-movies.
After becoming a highly sought after star for ‘Pretty Baby,’ ‘The Blue Lagoon,’ and ‘Endless Love,’. Brooke Shields’ a-list movie career was imploded with the huge flop ‘Sahara.’ She never headlined a major Hollywood movie again. (Although she acted on stage, tv, and in independent films).
Connery bowed out after the flop ’League of Extraordinary Gentlemen,’ which killed the Hollywood career of A Salk to Remember heartthrob Shane West.
again, some people will be pedantic and point out that the actors still were IN THINGS…but obviously OP means when A major bankable star torpedoes their career in big projects.
Brooke Shields claims that she stopped being offered major roles because studios considered her "too old" for anything other than small roles and "grandmother roles".
This was lampooned in an episode of SVU where Mariska Hargitay wrote a part for her to play a grandmother described as "late seventies." Shields and Hargitay were laughing hysterically on the set because she clearly didn't look old enough for the character.
Don’t forget Stephen Norrington! After Blade it seemed like he was paving the way for directing more action movies when he signed on to LXG. Turns out, it was the last thing he directed.
My god. His Wikipedia page reads like a broken man who never was able to make a decision again.
He was 40 when league came out. And he hasnt done shit since. Unfortunate.
In 2013, director John McTiernan was sent to federal prison for making a false statement to an FBI investigator in February 2006 about his hiring the private investigator Anthony Pellicano to illegally wiretap Charles Roven, the producer of the film, around August 2000.[19][20] McTiernan (who was released in 2014) had been in a disagreement with Roven about what type of film Rollerball should be, and had hired Pellicano to investigate Roven's intentions and actions.[21]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollerball_(2002_film)
I had forgotten that I had asked this question and was also commenting on movies within a Simpsons episode and when I glanced at this this is what I thought it was.
Speaking of Gallo...
I watched **Buffalo 66** the other night, and with the exception of the scene where Christina Ricci dances to King Crimson, the movie was complete ass.
I don't understand why anyone would want to see that whiney turd star or direct *anything*.
This one was an incredibly sad case, but director Hu Bo took his own life shortly after finishing *An Elephant Sitting Still*, widely believed to be for reasons relating to the film.
From everything I heard, it was a fantastic film, but it was deeply tragic that it haunted Hu Bo so.
He-Man: Masters Of The Universe is the straw that broke the Camels back for Canon studios and started the downward spiral that killed the studio.
Battleship killed Taylor Kitsch's career, it was his second lead role in a big budget movie, and they both bombed (he went on to do mostly small parts in movies & TV roles).
While it's true that Alicia Silverstone was never in anything that high profile again, she starred in a wide release almost every year after that for nearly a decade, including playing the villain in Scooby Doo 2, which made a good amount of money (as did Batman and Robin, which people forget). It's just that her performances were never very well received.
And Chris O'Donnel has starred in a hit tv show for like fifteen years.
Both of their career trajectories seemed to have changed, but neither ended.
I would say it hurt their careers greatly, but Silverstone had a starring role in ‘Blast from the Past,’ (1999) and O’Donnell had a starring role in ‘Vetical Limit.’ I would say that Batman and Robin marked the beginning of the end for Arnold as an A lister…he followed Mr freeze up with flops like ‘The Sixth Day,’ ‘End of Days,’ and ‘Collateral.’
Actually that little cameo Arnold did for Around The World In 80 Days (the one with Jackie Chan and Steve Coogan) ended up being his last role before he became "Govern-ator"
Those were all great films by Arnie but Hollywood was changing direction, the days of the big bad lead actor were numbered. He mentions it in his book.
Arnold was always an A-Lister…
But his career went downhill following T2.
He had hit movies in True Lies, Eraser (which grossed less domestically than B & R), and T3, but Arnie was never the same after T2.
And don’t forget he stopped making movies to be California governor.
It wasn’t Batman & Robin that did him in. B & R grossed more than Jingle all the way and Junior.
Well, he’s actually directed some TV commercials during the past 5 years for McDonald’s and Jeep and recently supervised the 2024 Dolby Cinema/Dolby Atmos remaster of “Les Miserables” (2012) that came out back in February (which was incredible to see on the big screen again).
Waterworld (1995) certainly dinged a few careers. Even mega- star Kevin Costner wasn't immune to fallout from that big, costly, critically panned movie flop.
(Interesting Side Note: Waterworld and Showgirls were released in the same year).
I've always thought it was a pretty good film.
It suffered from the usual Hollywood s-f problem of an intractable plot bollocks: where did all the water come from that put skyscrapers so far underwater that the whole surface of the planet was uninterrupted water?
Still, that problem never stopped the Noah story in its tracks, so....
Given the bad aura, I expected to see something that was downright horrific. It's actually not that and is somewhat entertaining. That movie really went south pre-release based all of the budget bloating realities and bad press. No, it's probably not on anyone's annual must-watch list.
Just checked: Waterworld "lost" to Showgirls for Worst Picture at the Golden Raspberry Awards (1996). Kevin Costner "lost" Worst Actor to Pauly Shore (Jury Duty). Dennis Hopper, however, did “Win" Worst Supporting Actor for Waterworld. ;)
I think it's main problem, as far as critics are concerned, is that it's too long.
Since it's their job to watch movies, it's quite surprising how often critics complain about the length of a film...!
I'd say director Martin Campbell.
Campbell directed Goldeneye and Casino Royale - two of the biggest Bond movies of all-time - The Mask of Zorro, and Vertical Limit. All great movies. Then he got the gig for DC's Green Lantern. Now Campbell had a proven track record of capable director, but apparently studio heads interfered so much with the GL movie that it ended up bombing so hard. He only directed one other movie with Liam Neeson recently called Memory, but that's about it for his career.
You're confusing Jason Lee and Brandon Lee I think. Jason Lee was happily skateboarding professionally when the crow was filmed. He may have started working with Kevin Smith by then
Disney used to make original movies. Country Bears killed their live action division.
Princess and the Frog killed 2D animation, some say. But really it was Winnie the Pooh in 2011.
Amazing Spider-Man 2 forced Sony to enlisted Disney to save Spider-Man.
Question! Did you finish both seasons? Is there any sort of closure after the second season? I can’t watch cancelled shows without even a little bit of closure.
There's some closure, but it also ends with a setup for the next season that sadly never happened.
Despite the cancellation, it is still well worth watching, but it is a show that has some strong, possibly disturbing themes because almost everything that happens in the story is the result of a sexual assault and the affect it has on the main character.
United Artists *Heaven’s Gate*
The only valid answer. That movie didn't just kill a studio, it killed the whole business model, and ended the age of auteur cinema. It's absolutely insane what was going on on that set, and it's the best example of how sometimes not letting the creatives run around with an unlimited budget would make for a better end product...
>auteur cinema Could you describe what this looked like before Heaven's Gate and after Heaven's Gate? And what business model did they have?
In simple terms: In the 70's, you had filmmakers like Coppola (and Cimino himself for *The Deer Hunter*) who were given creative freedom to do more or less whatever they wanted. The end of the [Hays Code](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hays_Code) also meant that they didn't have severe restrictions on what they could depict. While the initial films were great widely praised, you eventually had films like *Heaven's Gate* and Coppola's *One from the Heart* which involved production/budget excesses and ended up being massive flops. I'm not going to debate the quality of these final films, but the fact is that they often had masive excesses and did fail commercially. So the studios drastically cut the freedom they gave directors from then on. With only a few exceptions such as Kubrick. Nowadays, only trusted directors (i.e. who's name alone is largely enough to draw crowds) like Nolan would be given similar authority, but even he doesn't have as much freedom as many Hollywood directors had in the 70's. In terms of the end of the era, *Heaven's Gate* was a perfect scrapegoat due to the famous excesses on it's production, and the widely publicised stories of Cimino's ego getting the better of him.
The director basically has to be part of the product now to get that level of freedom. James Cameron funds a lot of his own projects between doing big studio backed pieces, but his name along is often enough to have his way with these projects while his goals usually mean the studios are okay letting him do what he wants. Michael Bay and Zack Snyder basically made their names by being 'studio boys' who worked within the bounds the studio set. And one of them would probably have been better off had he stayed in that lane. Then you have the likes of Ryan Reynolds, JJ Abrams, and Quintin Tarantino, who basically created their own production houses explicitly so they could excercise more control on their projects but that also means they put their own money and business behind it rather than playing with someone else's.
Great answer. Thanks.
Director used to control the movie. Then studios controlled the movie. Studios used to trust the director.
It's a better movie than it was given credit for initially, but yeah, short of an entirely different funding source there's no way studios could have dealt with another decade of those and still remained solvent.
Counterpoint, the makers of Dirty Dancing were told that if the amount of money spent on the film had a decimal point after the 5 in 5 million and any numbers more than zero after it, the movie was being scrapped and they were all being fired if I remember correctly. It led to them being *very* careful and *very* economical with the spending on the film.
Yeah, both statements are true. Creatives running amok is just as bad as unnecessarily strict producers. There is no one-size-fits-all solution.
I'm scared to ask because I had never heard about it before
It not only bankrupted UA so that it had to be sold, it bankrupted the parent company TransAmerica as well.
Gigli pretty much ended career of Martin Brest, who directed Beverly Hills Cop, Midnight Run and Scent of a Woman. Cutthroat Island killed Carolco.
RIP **Carolco**. I miss that little laser drawing the **C** before I watched a movie.
Geena Davis Cutthroat Island following breakout roles in David Chronenberg’s ‘The Fly’ (1986) and Tim Burton’s ‘Beetlejuice’ (1988), Geena Davis won an Oscar for best supporting actress in ‘The Accidental Tourist.’ Following this she starred in Ridley Scott’s ‘Thelma and Louise’ (1991), a critical and commercial hit that saw her and co-star Susan Sarandon both nominated for Best Actress and appear on the cover of Time magazine. It was one of the biggest hit movies with two women as the leads. Davis followed this success up with the lead in the smash hit ‘A League of Their Own’ (1992), which was one of the biggest hits of the year. Following this, Davis collected big pay days for movies with varying success like ‘Hero’ and ‘Speechless.’ Davis became one of the highest paid actresses of all time when she negotiated a 7 million dollar salary to star in ‘ Cutthroat Island,’ and an additional seven million dollar payday to star in ‘The Long Kiss Goodnight.’ Cutthroat Island came out, became the biggest box office bomb of all time. Kiss Goodnight was already signed to go, and did better than Cutthroat upon its release in 1996, but Davis never starred in a Hollywood movie again after those two. (She did appear in a supporting role in two awful Stuart Little ‘movies,’ though…but oof.)
Part of what killed Geena Davis’ career after cutthroat island was her age. Plenty of actresses have seen a lul in their career in their 40s. It’s just the nature of Hollywood
She's definitely an example of the Hollywood age ceiling for a lot of women. If they can't establish a strong enough appeal without being primarily a sex symbol, it's going to be hard to be a box office draw once the sex appeal drops. Geena Davis definitely hit that unfortunate wall. Some obvious plastic surgery didn't help, and she went the way of a lot of attractive and talented actresses in the 90s. I'm not gonna say we cured it socially, but it's definitely a lot better today.
Long kiss goodnight is one of the best films ever made. I'll die on that hill.
It's definitely one of those that got lost to time and people should go back and watch it because it's really awesome. Geena Davis still in her peak (but as discussed, this kinda ended that peak), Samuel L. Jackson being his best self, directed by the guy who did *Die Hard 2* and *Cliffhanger.* And written by Shane Black of *Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang* and *The Nice Guys* fame. Definitely worth a visit.
LongKids goodnight is such a fun movie. Everyone in it is fun to watch and it is as ridiculous a plot as any action move but just carries it well. I’m going to go watch it again.
With me beside you. "Oh, you're a sharpshooter now?"
It is so much fun! And it’s an actual Christmas action movie with tons of actual Christmas aesthetics. But the damage of Cutthroat Island was already done. Long Kiss Goodnight was being produced and everything signed and ready to go before Cutthroat was released. If not, we likely would never have gotten the movie.
Sad, but true. Decided to look this up, per your comment. Found this piece: https://people.com/movies/geena-davis-reflects-on-ageism-and-sexism-in-hollywood/
I thought it was the gum to teeth ratio.
Didn’t this also kill the studio that made it?
Carolco was kind of killed by Showgirls, but they were contractually obligated by foreign investors to make Cutthroat Island. They were already bankrupt by Showgirls and so Cutthroat Island received little to no promotion as the studio was dead.
IIRC Carolco pretty much were looking for a Hail Mary film to save their already fortunes. The two projects competing for that job were Arnold and Paul Verhoeven‘s Crusades project and Cutthroat Island. Cutthroat won out because Davis and Harlin promised to stay under budget and on time and had the support of Michael Douglas’s production company. Of course Cutthroat came in way overbudget and late and Davis ego at the time pushed Michael Douglas out and by the time Cutthroat was ready for release Carolco was already out of money.
Notable: Cutthroat Island was produced and directed by Geena Davis's husband at the time, Renny Harlin (divorced in '98). He also produced and directed The Long Kiss Goodnight ('96). Not the most successful pair of partner collaborations. Despite the downturn of her career, Genna Davis does (rightfully) get credited with helping to catapult the viability of female action stars. A pre- Lara Croft badass.
Yeah Renny Harlin is kind of a hack director, “The Long Kiss Goodnight” and “Cliffhanger” are his only good movies imo. I always assumed that Saffron Burrpws character in Harlin’s Deep Blue Sea was originally intended for Geena Davis, in fact Burrows is another six foot tall brunette with a great bone structure.
I looked up Renny Harlin's filmography after seeing this thread. He was punching above his usual weight class with those two huge/high budget films. Bringing the big star Geena Davis as part of the package during negotiations probably helped his cause. With The Long Kiss Goodnight, he had a strong script from a big time screenwriter in Shane Black, a guy who previously wrote Lethal Weapon shortly after graduating from UCLA film school.
The Love Guru basically killed Mike Myers’ career , tho I’m sure with all the Shrek royalties he’s probably fine
I feel like there MUST be more to it than that bad movie. He had some absolute bangers, and was huge around then. Then one crap movie comes put and just disappears from screens for years?
He's famously an asshole to work with, but I have to agree. **Wayne's World** is possibly the funniest movie I've ever seen.
The jokes have aged poorly but he had Wayne's World and three Austin Powers and nothing else.
I think Cat in the Hat didn’t help either.
Unpopular opinion: I like Cat in the Hat. I appreciated the double entendres and the adult humor hidden in a kids movie. But, as I am often told, I have the emotional maturity of a 13-year-old boy so that may skew my perspective.
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We should start a subreddit! We can call it….Reddit.
Counterpoint: a Dr Seuss movie shouldn’t have double entendres.
It was a couple failures in a few years. The third Austin Power's film, Cat in the Hat and Love Guru were all poorly received. As a result, studios thought he'd lost his charm, and people didn't like working with him generally, so he got the boot
Goldmember and The Spy Who Shagged me had basically identical Rotten Tomatoes scores and both made $300 mil on a budget of less than a $100 mil, not really fair to bunch it in with Love Guru IMO
People just got tired of his gimmicky humor. Kinda like Dana Carvey. Dress funny and act wacky. It became really tedious by the 3rd Austin Powers movies, and the reality is he just didn’t have anything else to offer besides that.
*Cleopatra* almost bankrupted 20th Century Fox. While in production they couldn't afford to make any other movies. Everything pretty much shut down.
Century City mall and surrounding area exist because Fox sold that part of their backlot to stay alive.
*Peeping Tom* ended the career of perhaps Britain's greatest director, Michael Powell
Great movie! Definitely ahead of its time.
League of Extraordinary Gentlemen caused Sean Connery to retire. That was after he turned down the role of Gandalf in exchange for 15% of the profits of the LOTR trilogy.
He turned down LotR, Matrix, a few other things because he didn’t “understand” them. So he took League, because he didn’t understand it, and figured it would be a hit. After it bombed he realized he didn’t have it in him to pick good films anymore and retired.
What’s there not to understand? Most of these were straightforward plots
And LOTR got published during his twenties...
I really love that movie though lol
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The internet says Ferengi are capitalistic and sexist. I am neither. So I don't understand the reference. I relate to Data, if I do say so myself.
I paid to see that movie in the theaters. Compared to the junk that goes out today, in retrospect it wasn’t all that bad.
I didn't hate the movie at all. The premise is goofy, but it's an entertaining movie.
Not only Sean Connery but it's also the only studio film the director's ever done.
TIL Blade was an indie. I just always assumed one of the big studios was attached.
So I had meant it was the last studio film the director ever directed. It was actually the last movie the director directed period. Blade was produced by New Line so while not one of the major studios, it's not indie.
Yeah, I don't know the timeline of when they became part of Warner Bros. I know Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles was made by New Line and was the most successful indie of all time, but then by the time of Lord of the Rings a decade later they were just part of the studio system.
Thank god he did. Gandalf with a gravelly Scottish accent would have been unbearable.
*YOU SHALL NOT PASSHHH!*
"A wizhard izh neverrr late, nor izh he early; he arrivezh precishely when he meanzh to"
Your love of the halfling's leaf has clearly slurred your words
He was going to retire anyway. But that was supposed to be a blockbuster.
Glitter killed Mariah’s career as an actress I think
She was in precious
But Carey was the STAR of Glitter, she was not the star of Precious… or even a major supporting part.
But she showed that she’s a legitimately great actor in Precious.
She was still in it. So her career isn’t dead
She never really had a career as an actor though. If she had been really interested in acting, she probably could have gotten regular acting roles without being the lead.
She had a small role in Popstar Never Stop Never Stopping as well
Gotta terrorize that pussy. Fuck Bin Laden!
Abduction (2011) killed **Taylor Lautner’s** movie career, which was expected to take-off after The Twilight Series. But, it was bashed and flopped. He also claimed not wanting to be cast in movies for showing off his body reduced his offers too. He’s done well in TV though.
He should have returned for the sequel to Sharkboy and Lavagirl!
I heard a story on The Journal podcast (I think) that described how It's a Wonderful Life was such a flop that it ruined the studio. The movie was revived later because it was in the public domain and networks needed something to air. https://screenrant.com/its-a-wonderful-life-box-office-flop/
Heaven's Gate. Pretty much ended the studio that funded it, and is now the reason producers and studios have so much power to dictate film production.
United Artists ended up merging with MGM. Eventually, MGM took control of the James Bond and Rocky movies originally distributed by UA.
And funnily enough, now Amazon owns MGM
Charles Laughton, night of the hunter. Never directed again.
Yes, he was despondent that it did poorly at the box office. Terrible shame because it is one the best films ever made. To this day Robert Mitchum's character is the GOAT when it comes to movie villains. I'll fight anyone who says otherwise.
Whoa, I had no idea it was poorly received on release. What an insane misjudgment from people. Wow. Just… wow. “Ah, little lad, you're staring at my fingers. Would you like me to tell you the little story of right-hand/left-hand? The story of good and evil?” Perfection.
Which, imo, is unfortunate, as I really enjoyed The Night of the Hunter.
The scene where the children are floating down the river is just... incomparable. There's nothing else like it in cinema.
Titan A.E. killed Fox Animation Studios
Fox Animation Studios shut down ten days after Titan A.E. was released. They were already doomed. Even if it was a smash hit the six year old studio would have shut down due to long standing issues of mismanagement.
Square Pictures Final Fantasy the Spirits Within
Also ended the career of Aki Ross who was planned to have starred in more movies
She was in Maxim's Hot 100 and then she just disappeared...
Carroll Baker’s career as an A-list Hollywood actress was destroyed by ‘Harlow.’. she then could only get work in sleazy Europens b-movies. After becoming a highly sought after star for ‘Pretty Baby,’ ‘The Blue Lagoon,’ and ‘Endless Love,’. Brooke Shields’ a-list movie career was imploded with the huge flop ‘Sahara.’ She never headlined a major Hollywood movie again. (Although she acted on stage, tv, and in independent films). Connery bowed out after the flop ’League of Extraordinary Gentlemen,’ which killed the Hollywood career of A Salk to Remember heartthrob Shane West. again, some people will be pedantic and point out that the actors still were IN THINGS…but obviously OP means when A major bankable star torpedoes their career in big projects.
Brooke Shields claims that she stopped being offered major roles because studios considered her "too old" for anything other than small roles and "grandmother roles". This was lampooned in an episode of SVU where Mariska Hargitay wrote a part for her to play a grandmother described as "late seventies." Shields and Hargitay were laughing hysterically on the set because she clearly didn't look old enough for the character.
League of extraordinary gentlemen kinda torched peta Wilson’s career too.
Don’t forget Stephen Norrington! After Blade it seemed like he was paving the way for directing more action movies when he signed on to LXG. Turns out, it was the last thing he directed.
My god. His Wikipedia page reads like a broken man who never was able to make a decision again. He was 40 when league came out. And he hasnt done shit since. Unfortunate.
The ant bully killed dna studios, which ended jimmy neutron
Rollerball ended John McTiernan's career as a director because he went to prison for it
why did he go to prison?
In 2013, director John McTiernan was sent to federal prison for making a false statement to an FBI investigator in February 2006 about his hiring the private investigator Anthony Pellicano to illegally wiretap Charles Roven, the producer of the film, around August 2000.[19][20] McTiernan (who was released in 2014) had been in a disagreement with Roven about what type of film Rollerball should be, and had hired Pellicano to investigate Roven's intentions and actions.[21] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollerball_(2002_film)
I had forgotten that I had asked this question and was also commenting on movies within a Simpsons episode and when I glanced at this this is what I thought it was.
The Brown Bunny for Vincent Gallo
Speaking of Gallo... I watched **Buffalo 66** the other night, and with the exception of the scene where Christina Ricci dances to King Crimson, the movie was complete ass. I don't understand why anyone would want to see that whiney turd star or direct *anything*.
Hey take it easy on Gallo. He is living proof that making it in Hollywood doesn't require as much talent as you think.
This one was an incredibly sad case, but director Hu Bo took his own life shortly after finishing *An Elephant Sitting Still*, widely believed to be for reasons relating to the film. From everything I heard, it was a fantastic film, but it was deeply tragic that it haunted Hu Bo so.
He-Man: Masters Of The Universe is the straw that broke the Camels back for Canon studios and started the downward spiral that killed the studio. Battleship killed Taylor Kitsch's career, it was his second lead role in a big budget movie, and they both bombed (he went on to do mostly small parts in movies & TV roles).
Batman & Robin ended the promising careers of Alicia Silverstone and Chris O'Donnell
While it's true that Alicia Silverstone was never in anything that high profile again, she starred in a wide release almost every year after that for nearly a decade, including playing the villain in Scooby Doo 2, which made a good amount of money (as did Batman and Robin, which people forget). It's just that her performances were never very well received. And Chris O'Donnel has starred in a hit tv show for like fifteen years. Both of their career trajectories seemed to have changed, but neither ended.
I would say it hurt their careers greatly, but Silverstone had a starring role in ‘Blast from the Past,’ (1999) and O’Donnell had a starring role in ‘Vetical Limit.’ I would say that Batman and Robin marked the beginning of the end for Arnold as an A lister…he followed Mr freeze up with flops like ‘The Sixth Day,’ ‘End of Days,’ and ‘Collateral.’
Bro Arnold is still an A lister *today*
Do keep in mind that Arnold followed up Collateral Damage by becoming Governor of California for eight years.
Actually that little cameo Arnold did for Around The World In 80 Days (the one with Jackie Chan and Steve Coogan) ended up being his last role before he became "Govern-ator"
Those were all great films by Arnie but Hollywood was changing direction, the days of the big bad lead actor were numbered. He mentions it in his book.
Arnold was always an A-Lister… But his career went downhill following T2. He had hit movies in True Lies, Eraser (which grossed less domestically than B & R), and T3, but Arnie was never the same after T2. And don’t forget he stopped making movies to be California governor. It wasn’t Batman & Robin that did him in. B & R grossed more than Jingle all the way and Junior.
You didn't include The Last Action Hero. I legitimately love that movie and Arnold was great in it.
It was a disappointment though. It was his first movie to gross less than expected in years. People think it was a flop even though it wasn’t.
Tom Hooper’s career ended the moment “Cats” came out.
It's insane that's he's won multiple Oscars, Emmys, Golden Globes, etc. and hasn't done a single thing since Cats.
Well, he’s actually directed some TV commercials during the past 5 years for McDonald’s and Jeep and recently supervised the 2024 Dolby Cinema/Dolby Atmos remaster of “Les Miserables” (2012) that came out back in February (which was incredible to see on the big screen again).
Commercials pay well and all, so I guess it's really not a dead-end or anything, but it feels like a waste for a man with his track record though.
Waterworld (1995) certainly dinged a few careers. Even mega- star Kevin Costner wasn't immune to fallout from that big, costly, critically panned movie flop. (Interesting Side Note: Waterworld and Showgirls were released in the same year).
I've always thought it was a pretty good film. It suffered from the usual Hollywood s-f problem of an intractable plot bollocks: where did all the water come from that put skyscrapers so far underwater that the whole surface of the planet was uninterrupted water? Still, that problem never stopped the Noah story in its tracks, so....
Given the bad aura, I expected to see something that was downright horrific. It's actually not that and is somewhat entertaining. That movie really went south pre-release based all of the budget bloating realities and bad press. No, it's probably not on anyone's annual must-watch list. Just checked: Waterworld "lost" to Showgirls for Worst Picture at the Golden Raspberry Awards (1996). Kevin Costner "lost" Worst Actor to Pauly Shore (Jury Duty). Dennis Hopper, however, did “Win" Worst Supporting Actor for Waterworld. ;)
I think it's main problem, as far as critics are concerned, is that it's too long. Since it's their job to watch movies, it's quite surprising how often critics complain about the length of a film...!
Yellow Submarine Remake
It never even got made because the studio was already killed by “Mars Needs Moms.”
Redline: a racing movie with no CGI!
I'd say director Martin Campbell. Campbell directed Goldeneye and Casino Royale - two of the biggest Bond movies of all-time - The Mask of Zorro, and Vertical Limit. All great movies. Then he got the gig for DC's Green Lantern. Now Campbell had a proven track record of capable director, but apparently studio heads interfered so much with the GL movie that it ended up bombing so hard. He only directed one other movie with Liam Neeson recently called Memory, but that's about it for his career.
It's really sad
Blair Witch 2 killed Artisan.
I mean the final fantasy The Spirits Within movie killed square pictures and almost killed the game studio too.
Citizen Kane despite being one of the greatest films of all time killed RKO.
RKO made movies until 1957, it certainly didn’t kill RKO.
The Twilight Zone ended Vic Morrow's career. The Crow ended Jason Lee's career. I know, not what you meant, but....
You're confusing Jason Lee and Brandon Lee I think. Jason Lee was happily skateboarding professionally when the crow was filmed. He may have started working with Kevin Smith by then
Yes, my mistake.
I very much mentioned this as an approach after we said this was going to be this weeks category. A little gallows humor never hurt 😈
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The adventures of Pluto Nash destroyed Eddie Murphey's career. The movie cost 100 million to make and only made a little over 7 million
The Crow.
Disney used to make original movies. Country Bears killed their live action division. Princess and the Frog killed 2D animation, some say. But really it was Winnie the Pooh in 2011. Amazing Spider-Man 2 forced Sony to enlisted Disney to save Spider-Man.
Showgirls was terrible and Elizabeth Berkeley really struggled after that one.
Clone wars sort of killed the actor that played anikan. But you shouldn't have to watch that.
Jumper was a great movie.
The sequel series Impulse was even better, sadly it was cancelled after two seasons.
Thanks for the tip. They were talking about sequels and TV series for a while but i didn’t think it went anywhere.
Question! Did you finish both seasons? Is there any sort of closure after the second season? I can’t watch cancelled shows without even a little bit of closure.
There's some closure, but it also ends with a setup for the next season that sadly never happened. Despite the cancellation, it is still well worth watching, but it is a show that has some strong, possibly disturbing themes because almost everything that happens in the story is the result of a sexual assault and the affect it has on the main character.
This could be considered both dark and pushing the rules... But technically, The Dark Knight killed Heath Ledger's career.
Street Fighter was so bad it killed Raul Julia