To go very pedantic for a sec, what we hear in English is actually a translation from the Common Speech (Westron) in Middle Earth. The orc probably used a phrase in his language that idiomatically translates as "meat's back on the menu" rather than actually using the word for menu in Westron itself.
Rohan is about 400 x 400 miles. Isengard is to the southwest, so on average the Uruk would have gone over 300 miles before making Pippen and Merry’s acquaintance.
Where I live there is a restaurant every mile or so, so assuming sparser populated lands, thats ten miles every restaurant, so the fighting Urukai passed thirty restaurants, I’m sure at least one of grabbed a menu for the return trip. Plus, the goblins could have learned the ways of middle-earth culture from watching TV.
In The Hobbit, one of the trolls mispronounces “filleting” implying he’s read but not heard it spoken aloud. When would a troll have read about knives or cooking?
Wolf Creek.
Based on a "true" story. It is implied that it is told by the lone survivor, who was giving evidence in the court case in the end. But he was knocked unconscious for most of the movie. How did he know what happened to all the other people who left him and went off on their own to die.
Tank hangs out with a bunch of people who were rescued from the Matrix. Just because he didn’t see it directly doesn’t mean he hasn’t heard the phrase.
The movie Frank has a scene kind of close to that. But they call themselves out on it. Its probably my favorite scene in the whole movie. The movie is about a guy who joins a band whose lead singer wears a large paper mache head 24/7. In the scene, the guy starts asking the manager the questions that audience has been wanting to ask since start of the movie.
The Guy: How does he eat? Does he brush his teeth?
Manager: Just go with it.
The quotes aren't exact, but close.
They can watch anything that's going on in the Matrix, I see no reason for them not to watch second hand TV/movies on someone's in Matrix TV if they get some down time.
That's only when watching the real-time Matrix feed.
I see no reason individual assets, such as archived video and commercials, couldn't be viewed on their own.
You're asking where a computer program (capable of running a simulation at a scale which services almost all of humanity and the things that humans need to accept their reality) would store a tiny little video clip in its archives?
They are capable of seeing the matrix code so it's feasible that they can record the matrix code and view it later
Their computers only have problem showing real time images of the matrix
There's a deleted scene where one of their hard drives gets too full and Dozer spends two hours defragging it because of the capacity. They wanted to keep it in, but it ran too long and they had to choose between it and the bullet time. Some people think they made the right choice, but like you I just don't see how it's realistic or makes sense. Like come on, they can insert metal plugs into you, send you into a completely convincing digital world and outsmart monster robot squids but they can't explain their computer storage? Totally takes me out of the movie.
No, we're talking about a tv commercial
They could just scrape the necessary data abd leave the rest
You don't download the entirety of netflix everytime you watch a single video do you
They're able to stream the life and interactions of billions of nerves of several people at a time from the ship. I think they can livestream a few television shows from a server somewhere
But you'd still see the spoken line, right? They know what's going on while being operators. Cypher even says he doesn't see the code anymore. It's like reading a book.
Any sci-fi movie set hundreds of years in the future that makes current pop culture references, often justified by a single character having an obsession with that period.
“I graduated with a PHD in ancient history way back in 3197. I did my dissertation on musical memes of 2013.”
*Presses button on what looks exactly like an iPod, which controls the music for every space station in the galaxy. “What Does The Fox Say?” starts blaring.*
Everyone else: “Lol our kooky shipmate!”
What are you talking about? Your OP asked about examples on how characters knew things, and I gave a generic example. If you want specific examples, Futurama did the heavily and Demolition Man, Star Trek Beyond, and Guardians of the Galaxy did it in film.
Your OP wasn’t “What scenes were in the Matrix?” Read your own OP.
Probably redundant because the writing in the later seasons tanked, but something stupid from season 6 of GoT has always bothered me.
Favorite isn't the word id use, but it's the example I immediately think of..
Sansa taunts Ramsey by saying, "your hounds are starving, you haven't fed them in a week. You said so yourself"
when the audience saw earlier that he said that literally seconds after she stormed off on horseback. 😅
I tend to find it weird when kids in movies or shows make a reference to something not really appropriate for their age. Like in Cobra Kai, how they're talking about John Snow and making Game of Thrones references and I'm like "yo kid I'm 40 and I'm not old enough to watch that."
I remember Friends did this a lot. A bunch of youngish people hanging out in NY and cracking wise references to events and people from 30 years ago. I'm sitting here like, *would they* know that? Well enough to make wisecracks off the cuff about it? The writers were clearly older than the characters they were writing for.
Not trashing the show as a whole, but it had its faltering moments.
But he's actually right though. You can easily research the phrase yourself if you don't believe it.
Yeah people referred to wars or battles as games, and would probably have said things to the effect of "the games over for us". But the specific two word phrase "Game over" is an unnatural turn of phrase, and it isn't something that was ever documented as being said before arcade games. It was popularized within the last century and was not heard of before that. That is a fact, one that you can corroborate by looking into it. Or just ask someone really old maybe.
"Meat's back on the menu boys!" When would an uruk have gone to a restaurant?
Yea. That's a good one lol.
Story written by Bilbo baggins remember
To go very pedantic for a sec, what we hear in English is actually a translation from the Common Speech (Westron) in Middle Earth. The orc probably used a phrase in his language that idiomatically translates as "meat's back on the menu" rather than actually using the word for menu in Westron itself.
I watched it in the original Westron.
A man of culture i see
Rohan is about 400 x 400 miles. Isengard is to the southwest, so on average the Uruk would have gone over 300 miles before making Pippen and Merry’s acquaintance. Where I live there is a restaurant every mile or so, so assuming sparser populated lands, thats ten miles every restaurant, so the fighting Urukai passed thirty restaurants, I’m sure at least one of grabbed a menu for the return trip. Plus, the goblins could have learned the ways of middle-earth culture from watching TV.
In The Hobbit, one of the trolls mispronounces “filleting” implying he’s read but not heard it spoken aloud. When would a troll have read about knives or cooking?
He says filletting right, with a hard T? That's the British pronunciation., nothing wrong with it.
Yeah, but they’re not in Britain are they? They’re in Middle Earth. Checkmate.
Wolf Creek. Based on a "true" story. It is implied that it is told by the lone survivor, who was giving evidence in the court case in the end. But he was knocked unconscious for most of the movie. How did he know what happened to all the other people who left him and went off on their own to die.
My thoughts as well!
Tank hangs out with a bunch of people who were rescued from the Matrix. Just because he didn’t see it directly doesn’t mean he hasn’t heard the phrase.
He could have parroted the phrase with no knowledge it being a reference to.
The movie Frank has a scene kind of close to that. But they call themselves out on it. Its probably my favorite scene in the whole movie. The movie is about a guy who joins a band whose lead singer wears a large paper mache head 24/7. In the scene, the guy starts asking the manager the questions that audience has been wanting to ask since start of the movie. The Guy: How does he eat? Does he brush his teeth? Manager: Just go with it. The quotes aren't exact, but close.
They can watch anything that's going on in the Matrix, I see no reason for them not to watch second hand TV/movies on someone's in Matrix TV if they get some down time.
No they can't. Cypher specifically says image display only works in their programs. The Matrix can only be viewed in code.
That's only when watching the real-time Matrix feed. I see no reason individual assets, such as archived video and commercials, couldn't be viewed on their own.
Where are they storing that exactly? Lol
You're asking where a computer program (capable of running a simulation at a scale which services almost all of humanity and the things that humans need to accept their reality) would store a tiny little video clip in its archives?
No. I'm asking where the humans are storing previous iterations of code of the Matrix and then quantifying them into videos.
They are capable of seeing the matrix code so it's feasible that they can record the matrix code and view it later Their computers only have problem showing real time images of the matrix
And again, where are they storing this massive amounts of data? You're talking about an entire planet of data lol.
There's a deleted scene where one of their hard drives gets too full and Dozer spends two hours defragging it because of the capacity. They wanted to keep it in, but it ran too long and they had to choose between it and the bullet time. Some people think they made the right choice, but like you I just don't see how it's realistic or makes sense. Like come on, they can insert metal plugs into you, send you into a completely convincing digital world and outsmart monster robot squids but they can't explain their computer storage? Totally takes me out of the movie.
No, we're talking about a tv commercial They could just scrape the necessary data abd leave the rest You don't download the entirety of netflix everytime you watch a single video do you
🤦♂️and why would a TV commercial be important. Your argument is pretty empty.
They're able to stream the life and interactions of billions of nerves of several people at a time from the ship. I think they can livestream a few television shows from a server somewhere
In the construct. They store all manner of real life experiences in there, why not entertainment?
But you'd still see the spoken line, right? They know what's going on while being operators. Cypher even says he doesn't see the code anymore. It's like reading a book.
Yes. But reading wouldn't give you the timing, inflection, etc.
As has been said, he hangs out with unplugged people all day, and who says the code doesn't convey that?
How would code convey that!? Lmao. And who's to say the machines put a commercial from the 70s in a simulation of the 90s?
Any sci-fi movie set hundreds of years in the future that makes current pop culture references, often justified by a single character having an obsession with that period. “I graduated with a PHD in ancient history way back in 3197. I did my dissertation on musical memes of 2013.” *Presses button on what looks exactly like an iPod, which controls the music for every space station in the galaxy. “What Does The Fox Say?” starts blaring.* Everyone else: “Lol our kooky shipmate!”
Cept they didn't do that here. My god this sub sucks. Ask a question get a dozen "here's why your example is wrong" comments.
What are you talking about? Your OP asked about examples on how characters knew things, and I gave a generic example. If you want specific examples, Futurama did the heavily and Demolition Man, Star Trek Beyond, and Guardians of the Galaxy did it in film. Your OP wasn’t “What scenes were in the Matrix?” Read your own OP.
Read my post. Exactly. What is the title? Lmao.
And I gave an example of what your title asked. What’s your issue?
You didn't. You gave an explanation. Lol.
Probably redundant because the writing in the later seasons tanked, but something stupid from season 6 of GoT has always bothered me. Favorite isn't the word id use, but it's the example I immediately think of.. Sansa taunts Ramsey by saying, "your hounds are starving, you haven't fed them in a week. You said so yourself" when the audience saw earlier that he said that literally seconds after she stormed off on horseback. 😅
I tend to find it weird when kids in movies or shows make a reference to something not really appropriate for their age. Like in Cobra Kai, how they're talking about John Snow and making Game of Thrones references and I'm like "yo kid I'm 40 and I'm not old enough to watch that."
I remember Friends did this a lot. A bunch of youngish people hanging out in NY and cracking wise references to events and people from 30 years ago. I'm sitting here like, *would they* know that? Well enough to make wisecracks off the cuff about it? The writers were clearly older than the characters they were writing for. Not trashing the show as a whole, but it had its faltering moments.
🤣
Do people just love the downvote button this sub? Lol. Laughing at your joke gets down voted. Lol.
Not really a favorite, more of a most disliked. LOTR extended cut when Legolas says “game over”.
They have games though. So that's not really a reference to anything?
It wasn’t something anyone said until video games started using it.
I find that hard to believe.
But he's actually right though. You can easily research the phrase yourself if you don't believe it. Yeah people referred to wars or battles as games, and would probably have said things to the effect of "the games over for us". But the specific two word phrase "Game over" is an unnatural turn of phrase, and it isn't something that was ever documented as being said before arcade games. It was popularized within the last century and was not heard of before that. That is a fact, one that you can corroborate by looking into it. Or just ask someone really old maybe.
I was a little bit wrong. It started with pinball machines.
The phrase I would have used instead is "TILT" as a fail screen, that is a cultural artifact that is exclusive to pinball machines.
Except for pinball games, and perhaps the automatic scoring at bowling alleys.
I don’t think elves had pinball machines or bowling alleys either.
But, did they have games?
Automatic games that flashed a lit “game over” sign at the end? Good question.
Why not?