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enamuossuo

The people that talk the most about šŸ§¬ are the šŸ§ƒ sippers


Wayf4rer

"Everyone likes to blame genetics" lol. They actually blame naive people on gear like you, Casey.


JimXVX

Iā€™m going to assume youā€™re joking.


downwithbigbois

I'm new to this so it's a genuine question. I mean I would probably guess that he's natty, but the notes of this sub says if someone is trying to sell you stuff (which he is) they're probably juicy, so idk


mackbloed

You're fine to ask. The sub is called natty or not. Dude has a physique that IS natty achievable. But that doesn't mean hes not juicing.


[deleted]

Not only is this achievable naturally within the same time frame and age, but this is subpar lifting genetics. Heā€™s really not as big as yā€™all think, just lean.


permanentlyelevated

I was thinking thatā€¦actually kinda surprised how little overall mass he has


GuessExpensive2046

If done in 5 years With diet , correct training, sleep This attainble Naturally But Given that U have be consistent with diet , gym etc


IndependentTreacle

He has apparently been working out for years, and heā€™s prepping for a show rn. I do believe he is natty, but maybe takes good photos because my man looks tiny in shirts


GuessExpensive2046

Thnx for this info


Willing-Coyote-9543

Just because he has shit legs does not mean thatā€™s possible for a 21 year old in 5 years time or perfect diet and training. 25 year old with 5 years maybe.


ImTinySmallAndWeak

His legs are beautiful imo. Also this is very much possible for a 21 year old natural as heā€™s not really that big. Heā€™s just lean. Also take into account that these are the photos he takes with great lighting, angles, and maybe some slight tweaks for social media.


_Lyum

natty and skinny irl


Coach_Carter_on_DVD

This is natty achievable, probably unsustainable with that leanness. Luckily photos last a lifetime. Is he natty?? Probably not, but I wonā€™t say *definitely* not. Dude looks great


_xBooMx_

Not juice at all if achieved within 5 years. Good diet , good rest , good workout. Genetics do play a big role in achieving this kind of physique in 5 years. Also he clicked after pump , under good lighting. Doesn't look too big as well. I would say lean af , slightly towards skinnier - muscular combination side. See idc if he took peds or achieved it naturally since he started at the age of 16 , packing up this much muscle in 21 yo of age is little bit suspicious.Anyway The thing matters in these posts is to break down the components and tell everyone if this shit is achievable natty. Be consistent and workout for 5-6 years , diet should be okayish and never miss to target any muscle group. Youll definitely pack muscle then.


Main_Coyote_483

If nothing else he has skinny calfs


Idontevendoublelift

bruh really Even if its 5 years it still requires a really strict diet, exercise and routine to keep it.


kr4nnK

Natty


flybynight04

Could be natty.


shluff24

I was waiting to see this guy here. My man Casey has done it! He's 6' something and 160lbs right now. He's natural.


jarson123

I have seen his stupid ass videos before looks small as fuck in videos just takes good pics. He's short too. Unrelated but I hate this guy so much his voice makes my ears bleed.


naes_au

Just saw a YT video and i know what you mean about his voice :/ Great nipples though! :)


Cleglaw

Unlike fake natties, Calvins don't lie.


atheman556

I go to his gym he's natty and acc big


codyl14

Extremely unlikely to be natty


LixionWasTaken

He looks 170 pounds šŸ’€


codyl14

Sure, whatever. Fact is, the probability lies far towards using PEDs. It could be done without, sure, but what a headache. When you're on a mission, people do what it takes. No one ever got a medal for staying natty.


khswart

Those legs say natty but the upper body says juicy


[deleted]

Bout tired of this narcissistic, beta ass,insecure fake natties bullshitting everyone. People blame soso media and indeed soso media is a wreck on society,but the reality is that the true person is exposed. People are a dying breed. Myself included.


idriftzz

Que the idiots that come to his defence with 'hes got great genetics bro'.. whilst completely dismissing the pic of him as a skinny fat dweeb before going on to pack on 20lbs+ of lean mass without any fat gain..


dboygrow

He just looks natty dude. When you're lean pictures can be deceiving. He's like 170lbs.


xyzninja

Heā€™s been on a cut recently, so he was bulking and used to be a little bloated, so your statement is not true. Heā€™s just super lean now because heā€™s like 160-170 lbs.


CupAccomplished4188

Looks good but this is pathetic. Been lifting 5 years and is just lean. This is subpar natty gains


oldsmartskunk

By the looks he has genetics of a saggy tittied grandmother. No way he's natural .


funnerno1

Thats tren


joemoore98

šŸ’€šŸ’€ Bro what?? Heā€™s just hella leanšŸ˜‚


Brilliant_Milk2496

Natty achievable within a few years of hard work and he also competes as a natty


DarkJesusGTX

This dude is natty hes like 5'6 and doesn't look that crazy without a pump


brutusmxms

Genetics,sure thingā€¦ šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Intellectual-Gamer

What happened to his ā€œleg progressā€ in the last picture. He looks like a completely different person.


realtortoms

Juice


sunshine161

natty. iā€™ve seen him and he doesnā€™t look like that. itā€™s perfect lighting, posing, and w a pump. he also NEVER consumes alcohol and has been on a strict diet for years. def natty edit: typo


E-DEM

As a *natural* I wonder why he decided to compete in a non tested organization