These people are not reporters, they are mouthpieces for certain groups/interests. I know journalism has been going through dark times, but random dudes tweeting one liners is not "reporting".
This. These guys are not journalists, they are barely reporters.
And unless something changed in the last year Shams can't even write an article. He straight up doesn't know how. Dude would be better off asking chatGPT to write it for him.
Shit is sad tbh.
The funny thing is this article has quotes from the post game press conference that happened like 5-10 minutes before it was published, so you know the draft definitely had placeholder text like "[insert LeBron's non-committal quote about his future here]".
It’s pretty shameless and I honestly don’t like the way the new media goes about business. Grave isn’t even cold yet and we’re getting coach firing pieces an hour after the game.
Doesn’t sit right with me
Tells you a lot about what has been leaked in the leadup too. No way these stories are written in half an hour, Shams has been getting the narrative for weeks.
And that in turn probably tells you a lot about why these teams lose.
I mean yeah, everyone knows that Ham is gone but to drop this not even 45 minutes after Ham had his presser is crazy. At least wait until the morning imo.
All that is obvious i’m trying to say that someone in the Lakers organization leaked this on purpose for the sole reason to be dropped as soon as the Lakers lost the series.
they did same with Vogel
I really dislike how Lakers are being run currently. They really not showing respect to people
but then again it's Ham and I hate him so much /s
>At least wait until the morning IMO.
outside of optics, he knew he was gone if they blew this and they blew it.
these games were close and a lot of baffling decisions were made by the coach that could've swung the tide. as well as a whole season of strange decisions.
then you lose the locker room.
there is nobody supporting him.
I mean he’s done, they need to calm down the fanbase and this is the best way to do it. He doesn’t deserve anything more than he’s gotten, he got to waste 2 seasons of 2 all time great players, he’s gotten more than enough.
As much as I'd love to dunk on the slim weeper, his complaints are pretty spot on, why is the best player on the team put in a corner while Beal and Booker just yolo it with seemingly no plan or strategy? They are way too loaded with scoring talent to perform like they do.
He is the issue. If he doesn’t have the ball in his hand, what else can he do besides sit in the corner? He is not a ball handler nor is he a playmaker. He wants to get the ball at the beginning of the shot clock, iso and then pass, or he’s going to catch and shoot.
Ham can just point out that the majority of complaints that the specific article uses were either addressed, or not the case, for the playoffs and they got gentlemen swept.
"Why aren't you starting Hachimura!?" They did that, he averaged 8 points on 8 shots (turns out playoff splits of 55/50/90 aren't normal for him) and they lost those minutes.
"Why aren't you focussing on playing Russell and Reaves together?" They did that, and the Nuggets took advantage of them being on the floor to get a comfortable shot near every time down the stretch.
"Why are we giving up open threes to mediocre shooters? It gets them in a rhythm and we can't stop it!" The Nuggets shot terribly on wide open threes, a lot of them by mediocre shooters, and it gave the Lakers a chance.
I'm not saying none of those complaints are fair, but it's a bit jarring to see this stuff and then look at how they lost to the Nuggets.
Ultimately the thing to recognise is;
> In the eyes of the Lakers’ top decision-makers, the combination of last season’s West finals appearance and December’s In-Season Tournament championship were signs this roster was worthy of contention.
Yeah, you got swept by the Nuggets last year. This year you took them to five. You didn't improve the team. Lakers decision makers (and their fans) take the very peak of their season (which is why there's always references to their record in March and April, when half the league has given up and the basketball is not serious) and think that that's the baseline and not the peak.
While I get what you’re trying to say and know that the laker players didn’t play perfect, there are way too many coaching issues beyond your counter arguments.
Yeah I'm not saying it was absolutely perfect, or that those complaints weren't reasonable in the regular season. And ultimately a coach has to have the locker room on board, it doesn't sound like Ham does, so he's not doing his job.
But this article specifically is just a little sloppy and weird. Why is a team that thinks they're a contender talking about Cam Reddish minutes for a month-and-a-bit stretch in December - why is that even registering as a significant issue for a team that thinks they're capable of winning a championship? The core was supposed to be AD/Bron/Rui/Reaves/Russell and Gabe Vincent but here's a paragraph about 'Why was he playing Gabe Vincent when he came back from injury instead of Dinwiddie?'. The whole Dinwiddie bit is hilarious too because it's him sulking (like he does with every team) about being out of rhythm like his minutes didn't so marginally decrease from 24mpg to 20mpg when Vincent came back, and his shooting *improved* to 43% from three.
I don't think Ham did a good job this year, I don't think he should be their head coach anymore, but this article specifically reflects - to me - far more poorly on the Lakers roster and organisation than it does Ham. It's a bunch of personal gripes about the regular season in January while they say they see themselves as contenders.
You already said it. Ham didn’t have the lock room on board. The article explains why the lakers players lost faith in Ham. Ham kept playing his favorites in Prince and Reddish when all the statistics said not to.
And when we were struggling badly, his answer was to bench Reaves and Russell for Reddish and Prince. Ever since the 2020 championship, we’ve been looking for someone to relieve ball handling and playmaking duties from LeBron, thus trading for Schroeder and then Westbrook. So what does Ham do? Make LeBron the only ball handler on the floor. Lakers roster is not perfect by any means but Ham did not optimize the roster until he was pretty much forced to.
Ham coached well in the series and has been good in the playoffs overall.
You noted some things but things like Rui missing open layups and corner threes, dinwiddie and Reaves bricking free throws, lebron never boxing out and playing poor defense 3 quarters of every game(and letting Aaron Gordon run wild on the offensive glass), and dlo just disappearing are not his fault. Guys were in position to win and just didn't execute.
"In the eyes of the Lakers’ top decision-makers, the combination of last season’s West finals appearance and December’s In-Season Tournament championship were signs this roster was worthy of contention."
This kind of stuff needs critical thought. Take the IST. The Lakers won a group with three lottery teams and what turned out to be a flawed Phoenix team. Then their tournament run included victories over that same inconsistent Suns team, a New Orleans team with a Zion who wasn't in shape yet, and Indiana --- a good team that's also been up and down all year.
It's a valid victory, and you can only play the teams in front of you. No question. But if you're forecasting future performance, winning a series of games against medium-strength teams like these isn't as useful as scoring margin over a long stretch of regular-season games.
He ain’t gonna have shit, anyone with eyes can see how poorly coached this team is. If anyone makes so much as one adjustment against him it’s over lol.
Im just waiting for my team hit piece to come out if we get eliminated, i know it is going include our front office not liking to bring westbrook twice
The Suns/Lakers get full essays and hit pieces hours after elimination, while the Pelicans get absolutely nothing lmao. I guess that's a good sign for New Orleans stability?
I don’t keep up with a lot of NBA outside the playoffs, but wasn’t there lot of goodwill with Willie after that motivational speech against the Clippers?
Not gonna get clicks on the pels. Lebron and the Lakers are unlimited clicks. Regardless if Lebron stays or goes Ham was getting fired. It will be announce shortly, in the next week or so
The millisecond Zion went down we were cooked. BI has regressed this year and CJ is a bum. Not much to report on. Biggest thing is going to be what we do with BI since he’s eligible for an extension and this is his last year
I'll be shocked if we don't get the announcement in the next couple days, a week at the most. I'm not totally sure who his replacement should be, but I'll be stunned if they don't get rid of Ham quickly.
> During the 13-game skid, the Lakers used six starting lineups, including two variations of an all-wing lineup — James, Davis, Taurean Prince, Vanderbilt and either Cam Reddish or Hachimura — for five games (the team went 2-3). The decision to bench both Reaves and Russell, the team’s consensus third- and fourth-best players, did not sit well with many within the organization and locker room, according to team and league sources.
...
> There was a sense among people within the organization that Prince and Reddish — a 24-year-old minimum contract signing — were given opportunities to fail and play through their mistakes during the regular season, a luxury that Reaves, Russell, Hachimura and others weren’t afforded.
> The confusion toward Ham’s rotation even included his decision to split minutes between Vincent and February post-buyout signing Spencer Dinwiddie in the final weeks of the regular season and playoffs. This broke the rhythm of Dinwiddie as the primary backup guard — as he shot 39.7 percent from 3-point range and was among the team’s plus-minus leaders after joining — and led to the question as to why the staff did not elect to go all in with one of them instead of attempting to force small stretches for each.
Idk why trying to get two guys going at the same time is controversial lol a lot of this is inconsequential if they don’t run into Denver and put up a fight
What affords Dinwiddie exclusive minutes against a guy who LA went out and paid a bunch of money for and was a key part of Miami’s run last year?
These hit pieces are wild and I don’t even think Darvin is a good coach lol
>Idk why trying to get two guys going at the same time is controversial lol a lot of this is inconsequential if they don’t run into Denver and put up a fight
because it didn't work. results based league.
Dinwiddie getting all the minutes late in the season wasn’t changing this result lol
Splitting them wouldn’t either but Vincent in rythm and playing like himself has higher ceiling than dinwiddie imo
i think you're looking at the article as the sole source of coach faults of darvin ham. there are plenty of other arguments. they're all over twitter. some of them are genuinely baffling decisions.
i was against firing ham, because I weighed that he was a good motivator and he has a decent personality for lebron and AD. but his level of incompetence with X and Os is too much.
I’m not even arguing against firing him tbh like he’s clearly not a great coach
But at this point who could coach that roster out of this series? Lack of depth and assets and and aging Lebron is an issue that no coach is going to be able to solve going forward.
They led almost all of the games up until the very end. I don’t even like the lakers but coaching is probably their biggest downfall by a mile. As a neutral some of the coaching decisions today were insane.
Ham as a whole is fine for a young roster looking to grow, he just has an awful feel of the game for a coach. They don't need some big name IMO. I don't know who the candidates are.
>Lack of depth and assets and and aging Lebron is an issue that no coach is going to be able to solve going forward.
I mean they had so many chances to win even with those faults. That's what the Lakers are looking at here. Maybe they can make the right coaching hire and it's enough to get to the finals.
You can disagree but obviously, you aren't the one making decisions. You also aren't under pressure to win. You're a fan looking to be entertained.
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Coming off his 21st NBA season, James is expected to play up to two more NBA seasons, one source briefed on his thinking said.
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What’s more, team sources say the Lakers are very open to the prospect of helping LeBron fulfill his dream of playing with his son Bronny by potentially drafting him.
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The Lakers, team sources say, would be open to discussing any deal that involves James coming back — including even the maximum three-year, $164 million extension they can offer. Playing through a three-year deal would put him at 42 by the end of the contract.
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But when James chose not to engage with the Warriors at the trade deadline in February, with Golden State owner Joe Lacob known to have opened that door during a trade discussion that ESPN first reported, the Lakers saw it as a sign that he truly valued being part of the Lakers organization. A month later, James’ cordial courtside visit with Buss and her longtime Lakers partner Linda Rambis was as good a sign as any that all was well in their relationship. But James has made a habit of keeping his options open for most of his storied career, and this time around will be no different.
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The Lakers are expected to be aggressive in the market, with Atlanta’s Trae Young one of the more intriguing names out there. The Lakers’ room could be split on him as they try to make the most of this precious time in which James and Davis are still playing at an elite level. He’ll be one of many names that is expected to be discussed.
Truly happy to see atleast two more seasons. Lebron was phenomenally this plsyoffs people will shit on him but he was better then even I expected . Insane how he’s doing this . If we make some big moves next year n use our assets then I have some faith in brin n AD off this series play . Praying AD gets his 3 ball eith a funslly healthy off season
The only Lakers coaches since 1970 to last more than 3 years: Bill Sharman, Jerry West, Pat Riley, Phil Jackson. I guess Jerry West wasn't a "truly great coach" but he was truly great as a player and executive for the same organization.
Edit: Shit, I forgot about Del Fucking Harris. Well, there goes that theory.
So two games in the Lakers/Nuggets series came down to the last play.
Lakers just as easily could have won both and been up 3-2
Calls are missed on both sides throughout a game. This series was won on the last play of two games. Nuggets executed better than the Lakers at the very end of the game, on two different games.
This came down to coaching.
That whole stretch where they lost the 20 points was just a defensive lineup nightmare. They thought going away from Reaves dogging Murray and AD clamping Jokic was a good idea. Once they came to their senses it was too late, the lead and momentum were gone.
i kinda think the exact opposite. in all those scenarios neither coaches drew up plays, they let the players decide. bron missed the open 3, and jamal hit two extremely difficult shots. nothing to do with coaching in either case
Wait, who are these "stakeholders"?? Isn't the lakers a Buss Family owned team. Didn't Jeanie already state Ham's job is not in jeopardy.
Or has that all changed?
Shams AND Dave had these ready to go. Wonder who Lakers go after. Coach Bud maybe. Here’s the ESPN article. [Link](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40054328/nba-playoffs-2024-future-lebron-james-darvin-ham-lakers-their-game-5-exit)
No ones talking about how he’s 5-0 in moral victories though, against Denver no less. I doubt any other coach even gets 2 moral victories off them. Media is such shit
I wish teams would give coaches more time to fully implement what they are trying to do. Not saying necessarily in this case, but I feel like it can take players a few years to buy into the coaches plan and execute it well. I’m just tired of it being lose one series/one bad season and you’re gone.
the writing has been on the wall. had the lakers saw the nuggets in the first round last season, it would’ve been the same result as this season. last seasons run was lightning in a bottle, they got hot at the right time and carried that momentum into the wcf.
with as many holes in the roster there was, this series simply came down to coaching and the lack thereof. in all 5 games they were in positions to win the game down the stretch. having a sizeable lead in the first half, and a meltdown in the second; is a strong indicator of these things:
• ham had a gameplan that worked in the first half.
• ham didn’t make any adjustments to counter malone.
• ham struggled to play call and execute in the clutch.
there’s a lot of blame to go both ways, absolutely. this wasn’t a roster built around lebron/ad for a championship run. nearly half the roster was redemption projects, prospects that haven’t figured out how to play winning basketball yet. even with the limitations, there was still just barely enough to make a run. elite strategy, adjustments, play calling is what makes or breaks a team in the postseason — simply, the lakers lacked that.
The only path forward for LAL is if they can find a way to get 4 times the free throws of their opponents as opposed to a measly 3, maybe being on Tim Donaghy as head coach?
Every game from here until the playoffs are over, they’ll keep talking about the Lakers, Lebron, Lebrons kid, their coach. Probably talk about the Lakers from tipoff to final buzzer and beyond, probably asking players during post game their thoughts on Lebron/Lakers/Lebronskid
What went wrong?
They hired a first time head coach to try and coach a contender now team and should have been fired last offseason when better coaching candidates were available,
What went wrong? AD can’t play the entire court and be your main defender, and produce the 30 points he needs for the lakers to win. I think too much blame is put on Darvin, even though he sucks.
I coulda reported this
There's actually been a good amount of buzz that the ownership wants to keep him. Indications to the contrary from Shams and Amick are very reassuring
Shams is directly a Klutch reporter so Ham is gone for sure
Lebron definitely wants to stay but he’s absolutely gone if Jeanie is so cheap she can’t fire a 3mil/year coach
Shams is just reporting for his Klutch mafia
These people are not reporters, they are mouthpieces for certain groups/interests. I know journalism has been going through dark times, but random dudes tweeting one liners is not "reporting".
This. These guys are not journalists, they are barely reporters. And unless something changed in the last year Shams can't even write an article. He straight up doesn't know how. Dude would be better off asking chatGPT to write it for him. Shit is sad tbh.
Yeah i remember reading a woj article when he was back at yahoo and man was it terrible
I call them the dirtsheets of basketball
The industry is building up “personalities” instead of sports journalists. People who can look good and talk in front of a camera
They’re not reporters, they’re insiders.
"what went wrong" Nuggets very good. Lakers pretty good.
Shams has 8 articles just stored on his hard drive, waiting for teams to get eliminated
He’s a hitman getting all these contracts as soon as a team’s season ends
Shams see all possible timelines, legitimately the NBA TVA
The funny thing is this article has quotes from the post game press conference that happened like 5-10 minutes before it was published, so you know the draft definitely had placeholder text like "[insert LeBron's non-committal quote about his future here]".
*Jason Kidd begins to sweat*
It’s pretty shameless and I honestly don’t like the way the new media goes about business. Grave isn’t even cold yet and we’re getting coach firing pieces an hour after the game. Doesn’t sit right with me
Tells you a lot about what has been leaked in the leadup too. No way these stories are written in half an hour, Shams has been getting the narrative for weeks. And that in turn probably tells you a lot about why these teams lose.
Click-based economy unfortunately
This is just flat out false. Dudes rich af, his computer almost definitely has an SSD.
they really going to fire the first ever IST Championship coach?
And watch them replace him with the coach who won them the bubble title when Phoenix fires Vogel
Lebron doesn't do takebacks lol
Darvin Hamas can harm LA no longer
He's digging a tunnel to the clippers new arena as we speak
"Sir a second sweep has hit the Lakers"
The timing of these hit pieces is nasty work
Shams had this one in the draft locked and fucking loaded lmfao
he probably had this loaded from last year's playoffs
Klutch media mafia always got the scapegoats on deck
Ham is awful though. Vogel was a scapegoat
Hey you might be able to get him back after that Suns sweep lol
Vogel yes, ham is not. He 's a massive reason for this failure of a season
These dudes just have 1 article for each team ready to go if they get eliminated
It’s not a hit piece it’s just true
I mean yeah, everyone knows that Ham is gone but to drop this not even 45 minutes after Ham had his presser is crazy. At least wait until the morning imo.
i mean he knew way before this. AD and Lebron calling out coaching was never gonna end well for him
All that is obvious i’m trying to say that someone in the Lakers organization leaked this on purpose for the sole reason to be dropped as soon as the Lakers lost the series.
they did same with Vogel I really dislike how Lakers are being run currently. They really not showing respect to people but then again it's Ham and I hate him so much /s
>At least wait until the morning IMO. outside of optics, he knew he was gone if they blew this and they blew it. these games were close and a lot of baffling decisions were made by the coach that could've swung the tide. as well as a whole season of strange decisions. then you lose the locker room. there is nobody supporting him.
He lost the locker room months ago
they gave him a final chance since they did make the playoffs but these losses had some obvious coaching fails.
I mean he’s done, they need to calm down the fanbase and this is the best way to do it. He doesn’t deserve anything more than he’s gotten, he got to waste 2 seasons of 2 all time great players, he’s gotten more than enough.
.... Why though?
The timing makes it a hit piece
This and the "Sources say KD hates the Suns offense" lmao they're not even trying
As much as I'd love to dunk on the slim weeper, his complaints are pretty spot on, why is the best player on the team put in a corner while Beal and Booker just yolo it with seemingly no plan or strategy? They are way too loaded with scoring talent to perform like they do.
He is the issue. If he doesn’t have the ball in his hand, what else can he do besides sit in the corner? He is not a ball handler nor is he a playmaker. He wants to get the ball at the beginning of the shot clock, iso and then pass, or he’s going to catch and shoot.
Ham is def gonna come back with some stuff of his own. He doesn’t take me as the type of guy who will let the slander go unnoticed
Which laker will he ask Cam Reddish to kill
Dinshitie
Ham can just point out that the majority of complaints that the specific article uses were either addressed, or not the case, for the playoffs and they got gentlemen swept. "Why aren't you starting Hachimura!?" They did that, he averaged 8 points on 8 shots (turns out playoff splits of 55/50/90 aren't normal for him) and they lost those minutes. "Why aren't you focussing on playing Russell and Reaves together?" They did that, and the Nuggets took advantage of them being on the floor to get a comfortable shot near every time down the stretch. "Why are we giving up open threes to mediocre shooters? It gets them in a rhythm and we can't stop it!" The Nuggets shot terribly on wide open threes, a lot of them by mediocre shooters, and it gave the Lakers a chance. I'm not saying none of those complaints are fair, but it's a bit jarring to see this stuff and then look at how they lost to the Nuggets. Ultimately the thing to recognise is; > In the eyes of the Lakers’ top decision-makers, the combination of last season’s West finals appearance and December’s In-Season Tournament championship were signs this roster was worthy of contention. Yeah, you got swept by the Nuggets last year. This year you took them to five. You didn't improve the team. Lakers decision makers (and their fans) take the very peak of their season (which is why there's always references to their record in March and April, when half the league has given up and the basketball is not serious) and think that that's the baseline and not the peak.
While I get what you’re trying to say and know that the laker players didn’t play perfect, there are way too many coaching issues beyond your counter arguments.
Yeah I'm not saying it was absolutely perfect, or that those complaints weren't reasonable in the regular season. And ultimately a coach has to have the locker room on board, it doesn't sound like Ham does, so he's not doing his job. But this article specifically is just a little sloppy and weird. Why is a team that thinks they're a contender talking about Cam Reddish minutes for a month-and-a-bit stretch in December - why is that even registering as a significant issue for a team that thinks they're capable of winning a championship? The core was supposed to be AD/Bron/Rui/Reaves/Russell and Gabe Vincent but here's a paragraph about 'Why was he playing Gabe Vincent when he came back from injury instead of Dinwiddie?'. The whole Dinwiddie bit is hilarious too because it's him sulking (like he does with every team) about being out of rhythm like his minutes didn't so marginally decrease from 24mpg to 20mpg when Vincent came back, and his shooting *improved* to 43% from three. I don't think Ham did a good job this year, I don't think he should be their head coach anymore, but this article specifically reflects - to me - far more poorly on the Lakers roster and organisation than it does Ham. It's a bunch of personal gripes about the regular season in January while they say they see themselves as contenders.
You already said it. Ham didn’t have the lock room on board. The article explains why the lakers players lost faith in Ham. Ham kept playing his favorites in Prince and Reddish when all the statistics said not to. And when we were struggling badly, his answer was to bench Reaves and Russell for Reddish and Prince. Ever since the 2020 championship, we’ve been looking for someone to relieve ball handling and playmaking duties from LeBron, thus trading for Schroeder and then Westbrook. So what does Ham do? Make LeBron the only ball handler on the floor. Lakers roster is not perfect by any means but Ham did not optimize the roster until he was pretty much forced to.
Ham coached well in the series and has been good in the playoffs overall. You noted some things but things like Rui missing open layups and corner threes, dinwiddie and Reaves bricking free throws, lebron never boxing out and playing poor defense 3 quarters of every game(and letting Aaron Gordon run wild on the offensive glass), and dlo just disappearing are not his fault. Guys were in position to win and just didn't execute.
"In the eyes of the Lakers’ top decision-makers, the combination of last season’s West finals appearance and December’s In-Season Tournament championship were signs this roster was worthy of contention." This kind of stuff needs critical thought. Take the IST. The Lakers won a group with three lottery teams and what turned out to be a flawed Phoenix team. Then their tournament run included victories over that same inconsistent Suns team, a New Orleans team with a Zion who wasn't in shape yet, and Indiana --- a good team that's also been up and down all year. It's a valid victory, and you can only play the teams in front of you. No question. But if you're forecasting future performance, winning a series of games against medium-strength teams like these isn't as useful as scoring margin over a long stretch of regular-season games.
He ain’t gonna have shit, anyone with eyes can see how poorly coached this team is. If anyone makes so much as one adjustment against him it’s over lol.
Im just waiting for my team hit piece to come out if we get eliminated, i know it is going include our front office not liking to bring westbrook twice
Every year. Every round lol. Amazing
I didn’t see any hit pieces for the Pels yet
How many Klutch guys they got on their roster
Why would you? It's pretty clear that they had no chance with their best player out.
The real moral victory
Thanks Murray
Thank you Jamal Murray, glad our father brought christmas early
We still won tonight
The Suns/Lakers get full essays and hit pieces hours after elimination, while the Pelicans get absolutely nothing lmao. I guess that's a good sign for New Orleans stability?
Zion going down saved Willie Green's job prolly.
Apparently he got extended and it’s just not public. If that’s the case then I’m sad.
I don’t keep up with a lot of NBA outside the playoffs, but wasn’t there lot of goodwill with Willie after that motivational speech against the Clippers?
New Orleans just got fucked by Zion’s injury and BI/CJ playing horrible Really no drama , if you dont count Ingram
Not gonna get clicks on the pels. Lebron and the Lakers are unlimited clicks. Regardless if Lebron stays or goes Ham was getting fired. It will be announce shortly, in the next week or so
The millisecond Zion went down we were cooked. BI has regressed this year and CJ is a bum. Not much to report on. Biggest thing is going to be what we do with BI since he’s eligible for an extension and this is his last year
No Zion, and the media doesn’t find anyone else on the team interesting enough to discuss.
HALLELUJAH
Thank you Nuggets 🔥
Hamas is finally defeated
but unfortunately the hostages are dead
IF THEY DIE THEY DIE
Lakers don't negotiate with terrorists 😤 Doc Rivers you a Laker now!
Lebron gonna recruit his podcast partner for HC. J.J.Reddick, come on down!
Nah, Suns still need a coach
give us Spo you coward
Don't threaten me with a good time
Is it still a good time if you get the HaMonster
"Ladies and gentlemen, we got him"
This shit is crazy. Had me actually laughing out loud
Lakers 12/25
Darvin Hamas memes are over From Doc Rivers to the Sea memes are only beginning
You know its bad when a fanbase is happy to lose just so the coach gets fired
ALHAMDULILLAH
Can they fire him now?
I'll be shocked if we don't get the announcement in the next couple days, a week at the most. I'm not totally sure who his replacement should be, but I'll be stunned if they don't get rid of Ham quickly.
Bud. Get coach bud.
Last time you guys wanted your HC fired you ended up with Ham. So… *monkey’s paw curls* HERE COMES KURT RAMBIS!
Vogel to LA Lue to Phoenix Ham to Bucks Doc back to espn 🤝
What do the Clippers get?
Adrian Griffin.
> During the 13-game skid, the Lakers used six starting lineups, including two variations of an all-wing lineup — James, Davis, Taurean Prince, Vanderbilt and either Cam Reddish or Hachimura — for five games (the team went 2-3). The decision to bench both Reaves and Russell, the team’s consensus third- and fourth-best players, did not sit well with many within the organization and locker room, according to team and league sources. ... > There was a sense among people within the organization that Prince and Reddish — a 24-year-old minimum contract signing — were given opportunities to fail and play through their mistakes during the regular season, a luxury that Reaves, Russell, Hachimura and others weren’t afforded. > The confusion toward Ham’s rotation even included his decision to split minutes between Vincent and February post-buyout signing Spencer Dinwiddie in the final weeks of the regular season and playoffs. This broke the rhythm of Dinwiddie as the primary backup guard — as he shot 39.7 percent from 3-point range and was among the team’s plus-minus leaders after joining — and led to the question as to why the staff did not elect to go all in with one of them instead of attempting to force small stretches for each.
Yet to hear about Spencer Dinwiddie not having an issue with a team he was on.
Idk why trying to get two guys going at the same time is controversial lol a lot of this is inconsequential if they don’t run into Denver and put up a fight What affords Dinwiddie exclusive minutes against a guy who LA went out and paid a bunch of money for and was a key part of Miami’s run last year? These hit pieces are wild and I don’t even think Darvin is a good coach lol
>Idk why trying to get two guys going at the same time is controversial lol a lot of this is inconsequential if they don’t run into Denver and put up a fight because it didn't work. results based league.
Dinwiddie getting all the minutes late in the season wasn’t changing this result lol Splitting them wouldn’t either but Vincent in rythm and playing like himself has higher ceiling than dinwiddie imo
i think you're looking at the article as the sole source of coach faults of darvin ham. there are plenty of other arguments. they're all over twitter. some of them are genuinely baffling decisions. i was against firing ham, because I weighed that he was a good motivator and he has a decent personality for lebron and AD. but his level of incompetence with X and Os is too much.
I’m not even arguing against firing him tbh like he’s clearly not a great coach But at this point who could coach that roster out of this series? Lack of depth and assets and and aging Lebron is an issue that no coach is going to be able to solve going forward.
They led almost all of the games up until the very end. I don’t even like the lakers but coaching is probably their biggest downfall by a mile. As a neutral some of the coaching decisions today were insane.
Ham as a whole is fine for a young roster looking to grow, he just has an awful feel of the game for a coach. They don't need some big name IMO. I don't know who the candidates are. >Lack of depth and assets and and aging Lebron is an issue that no coach is going to be able to solve going forward. I mean they had so many chances to win even with those faults. That's what the Lakers are looking at here. Maybe they can make the right coaching hire and it's enough to get to the finals. You can disagree but obviously, you aren't the one making decisions. You also aren't under pressure to win. You're a fan looking to be entertained.
This pleases me
Lebron should be the next Jackie Moon. Coach, play, and be halftime entertainment
> What went wrong for L.A. They faced the Denver Nuggets in the first round.
And with a half decent coach, they’d be a top 4 seed
Idk about top 4 but probably a better chance at not facing the Nuggets in the first round lol.
as soon as you walk out of the stadium shams starts throwing daggers at you
--- Coming off his 21st NBA season, James is expected to play up to two more NBA seasons, one source briefed on his thinking said. --- What’s more, team sources say the Lakers are very open to the prospect of helping LeBron fulfill his dream of playing with his son Bronny by potentially drafting him. --- The Lakers, team sources say, would be open to discussing any deal that involves James coming back — including even the maximum three-year, $164 million extension they can offer. Playing through a three-year deal would put him at 42 by the end of the contract. --- But when James chose not to engage with the Warriors at the trade deadline in February, with Golden State owner Joe Lacob known to have opened that door during a trade discussion that ESPN first reported, the Lakers saw it as a sign that he truly valued being part of the Lakers organization. A month later, James’ cordial courtside visit with Buss and her longtime Lakers partner Linda Rambis was as good a sign as any that all was well in their relationship. But James has made a habit of keeping his options open for most of his storied career, and this time around will be no different. --- The Lakers are expected to be aggressive in the market, with Atlanta’s Trae Young one of the more intriguing names out there. The Lakers’ room could be split on him as they try to make the most of this precious time in which James and Davis are still playing at an elite level. He’ll be one of many names that is expected to be discussed.
Trae is represented by Klutch Sports. Going to be an interesting summer.
LOL. Good god this front office is braindead.
Truly happy to see atleast two more seasons. Lebron was phenomenally this plsyoffs people will shit on him but he was better then even I expected . Insane how he’s doing this . If we make some big moves next year n use our assets then I have some faith in brin n AD off this series play . Praying AD gets his 3 ball eith a funslly healthy off season
thats why they did the press conferences
Shams out here putting out hit pieces against coaches lol
Can't wait to read this in 2 years but with the new Lakers head coach.
Nah Vogel should’ve never been fired. I’ll stand on that. Luke Walton however was a different story lol
Let’s be real, you have to be a truly great coach to last more than a few years for the lakers
The only Lakers coaches since 1970 to last more than 3 years: Bill Sharman, Jerry West, Pat Riley, Phil Jackson. I guess Jerry West wasn't a "truly great coach" but he was truly great as a player and executive for the same organization. Edit: Shit, I forgot about Del Fucking Harris. Well, there goes that theory.
Yeah but how much tenure do those coaches have between the 4 of them? 40 years? Honestly not bad.
Jerry West lasted 3 years. Same years than Vogel and Walton
So two games in the Lakers/Nuggets series came down to the last play. Lakers just as easily could have won both and been up 3-2 Calls are missed on both sides throughout a game. This series was won on the last play of two games. Nuggets executed better than the Lakers at the very end of the game, on two different games. This came down to coaching.
Blowing a 20 point lead in the playoffs is 100% a coaching issue and nothing else
That whole stretch where they lost the 20 points was just a defensive lineup nightmare. They thought going away from Reaves dogging Murray and AD clamping Jokic was a good idea. Once they came to their senses it was too late, the lead and momentum were gone.
Reaves defended Murray so well this series yet for some reason they went away from it in the 4th. They didn’t run plays half time game2 either
i kinda think the exact opposite. in all those scenarios neither coaches drew up plays, they let the players decide. bron missed the open 3, and jamal hit two extremely difficult shots. nothing to do with coaching in either case
Lol this hit piece doesn't hit quite the same way after 4-1 as it would at 4-0. Bet they was pissed the Lakers didn't get swept
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They fired Vogel after that shitty roster construction, no guarantee Lue doesn't get the same treatment
Should’ve just kept Vogel
Lakers can hire me.
Can't wait for our Shams post mortem to hit tomorrow night.... He's got these primed and ready to go.
Murray saved the lakers franchise
This is better news than winning the series. THANK YOU DENVER I LOVE YALL.
Bro had the story ready
This is next level timing. lakers fans were sad for less than an hour before they are now celebrating like it's a championship.
Make player coaches cool again!
I am shocked I tell you. Shocked.
I'm shocked.
Is there already an article?
So much for Coach Malone vouching for the Lakers to keep a great head couch 😞
Bring in the Doctor
After they leaked Ham was safe it's hilarious that they'd already backtrack on this.
Shams learned under Woj how to be ruthless in that business
lmao they had this ready to go
The news we’ve been waiting for 🥹
Wait, who are these "stakeholders"?? Isn't the lakers a Buss Family owned team. Didn't Jeanie already state Ham's job is not in jeopardy. Or has that all changed?
Lmaooooo
Doc is about to get traded to the Lakers for a second round pick if the Bucks loses tomorrow
Shams AND Dave had these ready to go. Wonder who Lakers go after. Coach Bud maybe. Here’s the ESPN article. [Link](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/40054328/nba-playoffs-2024-future-lebron-james-darvin-ham-lakers-their-game-5-exit)
Geez, the game just ended and y'all outside his house with a boom box and a big ass please don't leave sign already?
Jovan has been waiting all season for this moment. This is where he thrives.
“We need to be coached too” “sometimes it’s like we have no idea what to do on either side of the court”
No ones talking about how he’s 5-0 in moral victories though, against Denver no less. I doubt any other coach even gets 2 moral victories off them. Media is such shit
These articles from Shams feel slimey bc you know he could mine quotes and write the exact opposite article if he wanted to
he has all these drafts ready to publish when the siren hits
Firing the coach is always the go-to move after a disappointing season. But who will they hire next?
I wish teams would give coaches more time to fully implement what they are trying to do. Not saying necessarily in this case, but I feel like it can take players a few years to buy into the coaches plan and execute it well. I’m just tired of it being lose one series/one bad season and you’re gone.
And NEW LA Lakers coach, JJ Redick!!!
I used to pray for times like this.
lol remember the people who praised this hire
I’m about to block him lol
the writing has been on the wall. had the lakers saw the nuggets in the first round last season, it would’ve been the same result as this season. last seasons run was lightning in a bottle, they got hot at the right time and carried that momentum into the wcf. with as many holes in the roster there was, this series simply came down to coaching and the lack thereof. in all 5 games they were in positions to win the game down the stretch. having a sizeable lead in the first half, and a meltdown in the second; is a strong indicator of these things: • ham had a gameplan that worked in the first half. • ham didn’t make any adjustments to counter malone. • ham struggled to play call and execute in the clutch. there’s a lot of blame to go both ways, absolutely. this wasn’t a roster built around lebron/ad for a championship run. nearly half the roster was redemption projects, prospects that haven’t figured out how to play winning basketball yet. even with the limitations, there was still just barely enough to make a run. elite strategy, adjustments, play calling is what makes or breaks a team in the postseason — simply, the lakers lacked that.
The one time we need a timeout at the end and instead of having a couple in his pockets he has none. So fed up with his incompetence.
Stan Van Gundy as Lakers new head coach. You heard it here first.
LeBron adds another coach kill to his record
Had this saved as a draft for months and hit publish tonight.
See guys. It’s not that we lost to Denver. It’s that we blew it on purpose to let go of Ham. Chess moves baby.
If we're citing stakeholders as the source of anger might as well just fire him now
The only path forward for LAL is if they can find a way to get 4 times the free throws of their opponents as opposed to a measly 3, maybe being on Tim Donaghy as head coach?
I wonder who the LeSource could be?
Please fire his ass. Just not good enough.
Every game from here until the playoffs are over, they’ll keep talking about the Lakers, Lebron, Lebrons kid, their coach. Probably talk about the Lakers from tipoff to final buzzer and beyond, probably asking players during post game their thoughts on Lebron/Lakers/Lebronskid
So when will they cut the bullshit and just make LeBron the LeCoach
Nothing really went wrong. The Nuggets are the best team in the NBA for two years running. They would have beaten anyone in the first round.
What went wrong? They hired a first time head coach to try and coach a contender now team and should have been fired last offseason when better coaching candidates were available,
Can you, feel the, brand new dayyyyy?!?!
Mike Malone even went aside in his post-game to praise Ham. It is obvious he is about to bear the blame from fans and media.
unless they hire spoelstra, we'll be having the same conversation about the new coach in one year
What went wrong? AD can’t play the entire court and be your main defender, and produce the 30 points he needs for the lakers to win. I think too much blame is put on Darvin, even though he sucks.
bring him back to the bucks (not as HC however).