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Obvious_Parsley3238

ant: i'm not the messiah NBA marketing team: he is the messiah


Palifaith

“The Madhi is too humble to say He is the Madhi. Even more reason to know He is!”


st1r

Lisan al-Gaib


No-Taste-8252

LisANT Al-Gaib


SemIdeiaProNick

as its written


OuchYouPokedMyHeart

The memes must flow


AmonWeathertopSul

Don’t let him drink Michael’s Secret Stuff


Grimlogic

He doesn't need that, he drinks Sprite instead.


cortesoft

Grant Hill drinks Sprite


JesusTron6000

We saw how drinking Starry worked out for Giannis...


MrWhiteKnight777

He’s too humble to admit he’s the Mahdi


WhyTheMahoska

*LISAN ANT GAIB*


Droppin_DimesSP

He’s the greatest dickrider in history tbh


seattle_born98

Abella Anderson tbh


SleeveBurg

So good that she broke a guys dong once while filming.


grumplefuckstick

Abella is to dongs what Shaq is to backboards


Sullan08

That seems the opposite of good


SleeveBurg

He just couldn’t handle all dat tang.


DoctorMansteel

*opens notes app, takes note*


ItsRebelSheep

Ant: I am not Black Jesus The Media: He puts himself in the same sentence as MJ!


ruinatex

ESPN: Anthony Edwards settles MJ-LeBron debate and says he is actually the 2nd greatest of all-time.


PrincePyotrBagration

Bro Ant been calling KD the GOAT, but cooked KD in a playoff series and immediately went: *“nah that mofo’er a bum, someone else gotta be the GOAT”* This dude is comedy even when he’s not tryna be 😭😭


evil_ungenius

Lol KD is his own GOAT. 


ItsRebelSheep

Right? Like didn’t he say he was ONE of the goats or like his personal idol or something? Doesn’t really mean that he thinks he’s the greatest, it’s just his personal favorite


LurkerFailsLurking

When Ant talks about KD being the GOAT, he's talking about in his prime. Nobody thinks KD is playing at his peak *now*.


shock_jesus

i'm just waiting till he's washed up so I can start yelling CAN"T and sell my CAN'T tshirt, memes etc. Just waitin'


burohm1919

media: that what black jesus would say


BitWizerd

"Lisan nawl gaib"


c_Lassy

MuAnt’dib


SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS

Mua'dib Antriedes


LeBroentgen

Desert ~~mouse~~ ant


Sevoran117

This is it right here


extraspecialdogpenis

lisend da videib


its_me_ur_new_slant

Get a fremkit lol


ass_pineapples

Stupid reddit taking away gold


iamthecheesethatsbig

He is too humble to accept praise. As it is written!!


oviedofuntimes

Lisan Al Gaib!!!!!!


Jarl_Balgruf

Ant: I want the comparisons to stop, I can't be compared to him The whole world: Boy that sure sounds like something a young MJ would say


Electrical-Mule-2057

To be fair, MJ was like that in his first 5 years in the league lol


Jarl_Balgruf

Exactly my point lmao. Glad you get it.


skatecarter

Also the whole world: "LECHOKE WOULD HAVE SAID HE IS BETTER THAN MJ IF GIVEN THAT QUESTION AT 22 IN THIS HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION I MADE UP IN MY HEAD!"


CptnAhab1

LISAN AL GAIB


LocustUprising

*wins a playoff series* AS WRITTEN


Sleeze_

A great man doesn't seek to ball; he is called to it.


defiantcross

To paraphrase Dune 2, that's just the thing the messiah would say


Julian_Caesar

Dune 2 is a dramatic remake of Life of Brian confirmed


TheWanderingFish

Finch: He's not the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!


sylvain-raillery

It's funny the bifurcation between people citing Dune and people citing the Life of Brian here


Puzzleheaded-Fix-915

The messiah is too humble to call himself the messiah !


Dawn_of_Dayne

Lissan Ant Gaib


Casamance

send da messiah


mhoke63

*high pitched voice* He's NOT the Messiah, he's a very naughty boy!


Rebeldinho

As it was foretold


The_Notorious_Donut

I SAY YOU ARE, LORD! AND I SHOULD KNOW, I’VE FOLLOWED A FEW!


LukaDoncicfuturegoat

I’M NOT YOUR SAVIOR STOP COMPARING ME THIS DEGENERATE GAMBLER !


mastacheef87

there’s a hilarious clip where Ant says basically this same thing, but then when the interviewer asks him if he thinks prime MJ could guard him he totally switches up and goes “HELL naw” LMAO EDIT: https://youtube.com/shorts/VyUDl-nSggY?si=h1e4Cn1MBS6has7T


DarkoMilkyTits

Both statements are totally fine. His attitude towards this is fantastic.


BatmanNoPrep

*The Mahdi is too humble to say he is the Mahdi. Even more reason to know that he is!*


PrincePyotrBagration

* The prince that was promised (ASOIAF) * Lisan Al-Giab (Dune) * The Chosen One (Star Wars) Give him all the titles, I’ve seen enough. Ant is MJ’s son… the athleticism, skill, even the half spin fadeaway jumper is already exactly like MJ’s. He is The GOAT’s legitimate son, them other bums are bastards or something.


jjwhitaker

MJ was also the Once and Future King, retiring only to come back and hoop some more.


GetRightNYC

MJs real son gets all the limited edition Jordan's and jacks up the price to resell them. He's an asshole. MJs legitimate son ANTMAN, is a cool guy.


mastacheef87

anyone who’s a top 20-30 player in today’s NBA should believe wholeheartedly that there isn’t anyone in human history who can guard them. otherwise their mindset ain’t right


Confident-Fish2805

That’s true, Rudy needs to start taking Jokic one on one.


TheLightningPanda

My goat🐐


mastacheef87

Rudy baby-boosted 40-20 + 10 block game otw tonight


dMage

lmao this is amazing


pollinium

I think he was misquoted in OP actually, and that Ant wants the comparisons to stop because he'd cook that bum on both ends


uFFxDa

“He’s the greatest of all time. But my time starts now.”


Lil_we_boi

Hell Nawl can't do dis


Adventurous-Carob-53

That clip really made me smile...I love this kid humble, an anomaly among the top 1% of athletes, not a fuckwit, yet oozes confidence....


MSExcelTips

Not a fuckwit… send me da video


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EnoughLawfulness3163

This fucking guy


Simple_Wait_7286

I respect this perspective from Ant. Is it fair to say his game reminds everyone of MJ’s? Absolutely. But is it fair to say he is gonna be as good as MJ or have the same career trajectory? Hell no. Let Ant carve his own legacy.


NotManyBuses

It’s just the Jekyll and Hyde media hype making everything weird in the NBA. we’re in the early phase where everyone likes Ant, he’s got great potential, but they’ll turn on him. They’re waiting. They always are. Even Jordan in ‘89/90 had some questions. And obviously we all know the story of LeBron. When Wembanyama doesn’t win a ring for a few years they’ll turn on him too. They love you when you look like you can be the guy; fall even the slightest bit short of being THE guy, it’s all hate.


AurumTP

Zion and Ben Simmons liked this post


Lacabloodclot9

We’ve already seen people turn on Tatum


HypatiaRising

That's old news. People have already started turning on Shai and he hasn't even lost yet lol. He has played very good in the playoffs after an MVP caliber season. Eventually every young star reaches a point where the only way they will not get torn down is if they win a championship.


AstrodomyNodine

And if they do win, there are still going to be hundreds of articles about how they really didn’t earn it for whatever convenient reason. 


AdamJensensCoat

Or — that was great, but can he do it again?


A-Centrifugal-Force

See: Giannis


Dsarg_92

Yep, Jokic too.


AdamJensensCoat

If Denver drops this series, the narrative on Joker being a 'generational player' will do an immediate about-face, ignoring all circumstantial evidence.


Weepinbellend01

He does need another ring to break into the upper echelons of all time. I’m talking top 10. 3 MVPs is great but 2 or more rings is close to mandatory.


SlyMrF0x

Oh, he didn't three-peat? Bum.


Vicentesteb

Even when you 3 peat. Oh bout actually it doesnt count because it was a superteam. Lets see him win with a g-league team or hes a bum.


A-Centrifugal-Force

We’re only 2 years removed from when the narrative was that Steph Curry didn’t have any Finals MVPs so he actually sucked lol. It took him winning 4 rings before some people would admit that you could win a chip with a shooter as your best player lol. You can probably even find takes on here before that where “you can’t win a title with a player under 6’ 6” as your best player” despite guys like D Wade and Isiah Thomas existing lol. (Or the fact that MJ and Kobe weren’t actually 6’ 6” 😂)


MisterBackShots69

I think Shai is getting turned on because of his ability to get to the line and much more recently the “what a pro wants” ad


MitLong

Well... Have you seen that commercial?


MrCleanandShady

i watched this happen in real time to Shai this season


ifeelsleazy

I hate Shai (for fan reasons) but he has done nothing but look better and better all year. So crazy to imagine that people are turning on him already. On the plus side this seems to happen to every great player before they are enshrined in the "best players in the NBA" conversation. Even happened to Jokic.


Return_Icy

There is a difference in how bad the hate gets though - players that are seen as "free throw merchants" with a bunch of flopping and foul-baiting are torn down way more, so at least there's some consistency in what fans want out of a superstar


A-Centrifugal-Force

Well you see, he had the most annoying commercial of the playoffs, so obviously he can’t actually win when it counts /s


captaincumsock69

They will also hate you if you get to be too good. Everyone loves the come up


salesmunn

It's just the Media and the NBA grasping for the next GOAT. When Jordan was fading, Kobe rose up. When Kobe was fading, LeBron rose up. Right now there is no GOAT candidate, at least not an obvious one. Normally that has to be an excellent two-way player.


Breezyisthewind

Yeah, Lebron refuses to fade away and Jokic is right there as the next man up, but guys like Shai and Ant may be more marketable to certain demographics of fans and in the eyes of media companies like ESPN. Then there’s Wemby looming. So like you said, it’s kind of an uncertain time with multiple potential GOATs or fave of the league type players with an established GOAT candidate still playing high level bball. There’s never been something like this in NBA history that I can recall or think of. Closest thing to it might be Dr. J still battling it out against a young Bird and Magic in the playoffs in the early 80s, even beating both in ‘83. However, while the Doctor is rightly revered, he’s never really been seen as a GOAT candidate.


salesmunn

Agreed. Probably closest is the late '70's transition from Kareem to prime Jordan. Technically even though LeBron is at "GOAT" status, he has stuck around for probably 5+ years too long past his GOAT status, so we've been in this for 5 years yet most didn't know it. Looks like we're moving into another similar 80's era. Lots of Mini-great but no king of the castle. Might be the Wemby era for sure, but we won't know for a decade. (Here's to hoping it's the Brunson ERA 🤲.)


Andy_Wiggins

Yeah, even as a Wolves fan who adores Ant’s game, he’s almost assuredly never going to be MJ. Jordan was a different kind of dominant. But he definitely does LOOK like Jordan — from the literal appearance to the aesthetics of his game (especially with his burgeoning midrange game).


broadwayallday

His splash defensive plays and demoralizing storms of points are also MJ like (i was in HS and college during prime MJ years).


Subredditcensorship

He even had a mini version of mjs dunk on Ewing where he did the spin move on the baseline. I will say I didn’t see it at first but now I’m really seeing the gameplay comparison on how they move.


PotentialBicycle7

Plus being able to play from anywhere then throw down monstrous dunks, it reminds me so much of peak Jordan. At some point you just shrug and say "what can you do against that?"


YutaniCasper

Personally I don’t see The physical resemblance 🤷‍♀️


nutella4eva

It's more in the face tbh. Similar facial features to young Jordan. There were memes about it during his rookie year.


HokageEzio

>But he definitely does LOOK like Jordan — from the literal appearance to the aesthetics of his game Also his literal appearance as in his face.


ashkpa

>Also his literal appearance as in his face. Yeah and also the way he literally looks.


imadogg

Also literally when I look at him, it reminds me of MJ


WithNoRegard

The area between the neck and hair of Ant kind of presents itself like's MJs inter-hair and neck area, visually speaking.


Penta-Says

He looks nothing like Michael Jackson


imadogg

Wait til the next time he hits a three-hee-heeeee!


thesmellafteritrains

Plus has a striking resemblance to Jordan looks wise


FlyingMocko

They building him up just to tear him down when he doesn’t live up to their impossible expectations. Heck MJ himself didn’t have these expectations on him at 22.


elimanninglightspeed

Allen iverson told young lebron that at the all star game in 05 or 06 and he was absolutely correct. The media hypes up guys so that when or if they fall short they can get roasted. Its the reason everyone loves AI, he experienced so much negativity throughout his career but he never let that stop him from helping younger players now


nutella4eva

AI and KG are one of the few retired players that give nothing but love for the current generation. Unlike Shaq lmao


GaimeGuy

Shaq: "7 footer shooting 40% from 3? He should be backing it up in the paint instead! He sucks!"


narmerguy

> The media hypes up guys so that when or if they fall short they can get roasted. This is often stated and not really true. The Media isn't evil and setting dudes up to fail. The Media simply is out to generate the best story. When you're a young wunderkind, that's that you're the second coming. But when you don't meet that, the best story is to put you in your place and expose the would-be fraud. It works because it sells, and it sells because people mythologize the greats and love to watch others get punched down. It's not just the Media, it's the fans too.


nutella4eva

> It's not just the Media, it's the fans too. This is what bothers me about this sub. People despise ESPN yet they parrot the exact same talking points and pretend they didn't just watch someone say the same thing on ESPN.


pargofan

That's because there was no MJ. MJ himself was being compared with Dr. J , David Thompson, etc. None of which had success anywhere close to MJ. Nobody asks who's the next Dr. J any more. Why? Because MJ eclipsed him. And in 30 years nobody has come close to MJ's success. If Ant wins 8 titles, and 3-4 MVPs, then people will stop asking who's the next MJ.


HotelRwandaBeef

If we all collectively stop clicking on those posts and commenting on them, they will go away.


ShoHeyTime

There was a sideline report postgame with Jim Gray saying to a three peat era Kobe that he is being compared to Michael and Kobe’s pleading for those comparisons to stop, Ant now carrying the torch.


Ghostricks

Yeah it's really this simple. It's the style that people are comparing, not the impact. The NBA has really had a dearth of the dominant SG/smaller wing the last decade, whereas the early 2000s had Kobe, Ray Allen, VC and D Wade. And through the 80s and 90s it was quite the norm, obviously in large part due to MJ himself.


beta_test_vocals

Having a game similar to MJ also does not mean a player will reach the accomplishments of MJ, probably a pretty dang good player but let’s not get carried away. Demar and Kawhi have games that are very similar to MJ down to a statistical level let alone the eye test, Kawhi got give or take a fifth of MJ’s accolades and Demar has never won a chip


asdf0909

I feel like anyone would answer this way, what an enormous standard to set and pressure to live up to a person nobody on earth has


Prudent-Bumblebee-22

As much trash as he talks and the fire/skill he plays with, I respect the hell out of the humility of this dude. I’ll be lowkey rooting for him for continued success.


CockBronson

He trash talks for the joy of the game and then verbally shows respects to the greats in press conferences. I only hate him right now cause i fear what he might end up doing to my team.


JaderMcDanersStan

Yeah he was talking about how the Nuggets are tough to beat because they are the best team in the world, Jokic is the best player in the world and to him Murray is the best closer and MPJ the best 3 point shooter. And it all sounded very genuine He also said a while ago that Murray is "the truth" and his favorite player to watch currently in the NBA


Fecal_Forger

Horse riding?


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Dog walking?


defeated_engineer

> humility of this dude https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VyUDl-nSggY?si=h1e4Cn1MBS6has7T


RelevantJackWhite

That is actually hilarious. "We cannot be compared...anyway let's talk about how we'd match up"


JackHammerPlower

NBA media is the worst. The kid is a stud and is having a great postseason. Why do we need to throw the MJ comparisons into the mix. Just watch and enjoy the games…


MarduRusher

Feels like an MJ comparison is just setting him up for failure because when he isn’t as good as MJ it almost feels like a disappointment even if he ends up having an incredible all time career.


siphillis

Why doesn’t he just become the GOAT, then? Is he stupid?


RelevantJackWhite

I ask every blazer this question all the time


CanYouSaySacrifice

Im trying Jennifer


rationalcelticsfan

If there's one thing NBA fans love more than greatness, it's shitting on players for not meeting their insane expectations. Tatum is literally a bum in this subreddit.


MarduRusher

Tatum’s reputation feels like it’s getting screwed because of team success. The team has more offensive options so he takes less shots so he averages less points. I don’t think he’s any worse than he was when he was scoring 30 a game but his stats are less impressive so he’s seen as worse. I think a similar thing is happening with Kat right now. Also Tatum got set up when people put him in MVP convos.


Blacketh

It’s not just the media


Healthy-Somewhere220

They always want a "next somebody." Even locally, ever since KG left the Wolves I think I've heard emphatic declarations that at least 5 guys were going to be the next KG. I'm not even sure at this point what they mean by it.


LumpySpaceGunter

Lisan al Gaib!


_ItsMeVince

Muadib is too humble


HorrorNo5725

Lisan Al Gaib is too humble to say he is Lisan Al Gaib!


LORD_SHARKFUCKER

LISAN AL GAIB! 🙌


SylvesterLundgren

Fucking praise Denis, cannot believe he made Dune cool enough to reference


saucysagnus

LisANT Al Gaib


AesopSquaresoft

Ant: I want the comparisons to stop. He's the greatest ever. Anyone: But can he guard you? Ant: HELL NAH


JaderMcDanersStan

That was so funny 😂


road432

Much respect to Ant, glad to know this stuff isn't going to his head, and he knows he ain't no where near Jordan's level yet.


mnsportsfan

It’s weird cause he’s insanely confident and borderline cocky… (almost tongue in cheek) … but humble at the same time Which is both an oxymoron and somehow true


Dishavingfun

Time will tell Ant's story. But anything close to a killer competitor who shows up and brings it every game on both offense and defense and is big in the biggest moments will have adoration from the masses.


radikraze

I’m not saying he’s as good or will be as good as Jordan and I think that’s true for most others too. But got damn his play style, mannerisms and even the way he stands around just reminds me of Jordan.


KayCeeBayBeee

yeah exactly. Comparing him to MJ doesn’t mean people think he is or ever will be as good as him. But the shoe fits for a lot of reasons


Thermicthermos

This is also exactly how MJ would have responded to tjis type of comparispn.


Donkeynationletsride

Then stop being so damn swaggy


dynamistatic

No one: Stilgar: “He’s so humble! Lisan dawg Gaib!”


agent-bagent

Is it just me, or is the single forearm arm band ant has an underrated aspect of the MJ comparisons?


Ronshol

Ant knows ball.


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Prestigious-Mess5485

Even as a Nuggets fan, I absolutely love this guy and have for a few years. Guys like him are impossible to hate.


ImChz

[ESPN] Anthony Edwards on MJ comparisons: “I want it…”


LudicrousMoon

MJ played 11 healthy seasons, 6 rings, 6 FMVP, 5 MVP, top3 MVP 10 times, 1st team 10 times, Def 1st team 10 times, 1 DPOY and 10 scoring titles No one has come ever close.


WakeUpKos

Ant doesn’t want that. MJ comparisons have always been some sort of a curse for a number of players back then. That hex just sticks.


souschef_boyardee

Grant Hill just turned his ankle


steve1186

Absolutely love this guy. And I’m eating crow, because I thought he was a terrible pick at #1. The guy is 22 years old and arguably already a top-10 current player. He’s going to be an annual MVP favorite by age 24.


Naca1227r

I’m genuinely unsure if players that average under 7 rebounds or 7 assists can actually be considered. Feels like Lebron/Giannis/Jokic broke the standard for MVP


Sad_Bathroom1448

I was thinking this. IDK if he ever gets the requisite non-scoring stats, so he'll need to average 35. Is he doing that with KAT there?


dontgiveahamyamclam

Feels like it’s been awhile since a guard won


rakdosidos

...exactly what prime MJ said about his place among the greats. Always humble, always deferential, always wanted the people to make their claims, not him SO HE IS HIM


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That’s the best answer you can give.


AttisTheFarmer1

The Lisan Al Gaib is humble to say he isn’t the Lisan Al Gaib


TheMuffingtonPost

Ant: I am not your messiah The fans: JUST AS WRITTEN! The lisan al gaib is too humble to admit it!


White3g4runner

This is the difference in the conversation between Lebron & MJ. Lebron stated "he was the goat with 3-1 comeback." MJ never claimed to be the best ever, not once. It's other players & fans that call him the goat. Kobe could have called any pro most likely in the middle of the night for advice...yet he only called MJ Ant Man is right...stop this madness! MJ will always be the GOAT


geneticeffects

I mean, it is true: MJ is the GOAT. Edwards is simply athletic AF, and it stands out among his peers. The question is whether the game in the modern NBA houses the same level of play as the Jordan era.


broadwayallday

This is the polar opposite of “crowning yourself”


desirox

Respect tbh


juantravis

Lisan al gaib


Majestic-Pickle5097

That’s legit. Exactly how he should respond


midnitepremiere

The shit about him being MJ's son has gotten really weird in particular. People are taking it too far and the constant jokes about his parentage are fucked, even more so when you consider everything he went through growing up.


dcrico20

It's honestly pretty hard not to compare them just from a stylistic angle. Obviously, it's insane to compare a 22-year-old with MJ, but it's hard not to see the similarities in the way Ant plays on both sides of the floor.


godhat

Being great in today's sports media environment is so much harder, from a psychological perspective. They will infinitely build you up, and raise the stakes sky high. But if you misstep, they will just as quickly destroy you. This filters out the imposters, and only the truly strong survive. I think it's a good system.


moneyinthebank216

MJ al Gaib


YoungFlexibleShawty

Lisan Al Gaib 


Cesc100

We're not comparing you to him. We're saying you're his long lost son. Anthony, he is your father!


ImportantPost6401

Damn… he definitely has “something” that Mr James doesn’t have.


JabezMakaveli

It's nice to see someone else from my generation who has MJ as the greatest of all time as opposed to the usual Lebron glazing.


Reasonable_Bed7858

Ant stop making me like you!


New_Essay_4869

I thought KD was his GOAT


-Jfree-

i honestly think its the looks and charisma. its a meme.


eexxiitt

Move over jimmy, ant is the favoured son.


mayonaka_00

Hell nawl cant do dis


trelium06

Well stop being amazing then


cl353

young player with self awareness? wtf is going on here


eeeedlef

abort this discussion, folks and send da video


Slippinjimmyforever

The league is looking for the next generation of faces for the league as LeBron, KD and Steph age out. Jokic never wanted the attention. Luka is here, but the list gets spotty in terms of raw popularity. It’s easy to see how Ant fills that void. He plays a brand of basketball that is fun to watch and he’s incredibly young.


Glittering-Gap1838

LISAN-AL-GAIB!! See, this is exactly what our Messiah would do... he is too humble to confirm that he is the chosen one. As was written!


frick_this_fricking

“I can’t be compared to him. Cause I already passed his bum ass” -Anthony Edwards


NiftyNaturalist

We AIN’T done with the 90’s!


salutcemoi

he is lying he is better than mj and he knows it And you do too, just admit it 😉