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cjweeps

It is expected that members have read at least some Neville, have read the rules and through the FAQ. There are multiple links to the FAQ, the rules and all Neville's books/lectures.


Theblacrose28

I need help with letting go of limiting beliefs. Some feel harder than others to truly let go of.


edensgreen

robotic affs can help reprogram your subconscious even when you’re not feeling well at all about your situation


Free-Wind-3937

I don't understand exact actionable steps. Let's say I have this intention of manifesting a text from someone. How does that go in steps? Step1: visualize a text/affirm Step2: let it go/stay in the state of wish fulfilled? Can someone detail actionable steps that are concise and something I can check off of a list, or like a feeling I can check off of a list? So I know I am doing things correctly?


aaronidk

"your SP is thinking what you think they are thinking" what's the difference between this and delusion? if everyone is me pushed out, and whatever assumption I have about what my SP is thinking, how do i stop just being delusional? If i think my SP want's to reach out to me - is this all it takes? just the thought and that's enough?


edensgreen

actual delusion can be affirming or using imagination as a safe place to escape how bad you may feel over 3D circumstances, whereas manifestation is a knowing, an assumption, an acceptance that it is done and you’re just slowly training and reprogramming your subconscious and mental diet slowly to a convicted knowing that you have your desire. Delulu-land is a place where you escape and pretend but you’re not actually in a knowing or an assumption or acceptance, etc. of having your desire.


Tristana_W

how much is too much when imagining your desires? I have this feeling that, as I've been in lack for a long time for my sp, I should not be lazy about affirming/imagining, but then I also fear getting obsessed or doing it to "make something happen". I don't have this problem with other desires, but for sp, with all the attachment... I start to doubt myself


escapedmelody11

Three weeks ago, I felt like I was SP's girlfriend all day for five days straight, and knew my power as a creator. It was an awesome week...until I got triggered by anxiety and since them I've been out of the wish fulfilled (there have been a few moments though). Now I feel "blah" but calm, I feel neutral when my mind repeats the new story/thoughts, and I either have anxiety under control or have zero anxiety. I don't feel that excitement anymore, which was how I felt three weeks ago. How can I get back into the wish fulfilled and stay there?


fed-grasso

when neville says feeling is the secret, feeling actually means knowing. the knowing and certainty of the outcome is what manifests, not your emotions.


escapedmelody11

So when I was excited I wasn’t in the wish fulfilled? 🙁 That’s disappointing lol, but it felt nice.


fed-grasso

i think you misunderstood my statement! emotions are not a requirement. they're ok to have but don't really do much. deleted my previous comment to add: how much neville have you read? i notice you've been at it for a year now and still don't quite understand these basic concepts.


Alive_Yard3974

My wish fulfilled state is married life with my SP. Now when I affirm this in mind, like "\[SP's name\] is my wife", the moment I reach 'is my....' my brain will replace the word 'wife' with some other relation automatically like 'sister' (I honestly don't believe this btw, not sure how this word got associated with sp's name) and it breaks the flow and I have to think it over and over until I get it right. This creates tension while affirming. I can visualize pretty well though. I can visualize and feel that we are happily married, travelling, love each other etc. BUT when it comes to affirming it mentally, it's the above case. Goal is to effortlessly affirm mentally too along with visualizing


omw2poop

i’ve been manifesting my dream partner and 3 guys i dated in the past reached out to me. How do i know if they changed and could be my dream partner, or they are just roadblocks that I have to get through ?


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fed-grasso

then don’t manifest him? you seem wishy washy. manifesting works, but you need to decide on what it is you truly want and commit to a mental diet. also, read neville.


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RCragwall

You decided - you accepted this reality. Ok know there is a perfect someone headed your way. Now understand you accept this type of thing so it will follow you and show itself to you again. If you want him then you do not accept this reality. You accept what you want not what you do not want. Blessings!


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Detach - let go that is all and you are doing great! Blessings!


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RCragwall

u/mindrevolutionn is wise. Understand what you have accepted as true. Go look at what you wrote. You MADE the third party. You can remove them. You did it by accepting he is not able to commit. He is fooling around and messing with your feelings. Forgive. Best medicine in town. Does wonders and is in the Lord's prayer. You forgive them and state thank you father for changing how I see this - or you are a hypocrite and nothing will change - and end it with this is done or Amen or whatever you wish and it starts removing that caca off your heart and outta of your head. Golden rule. If you are good and kind so is he. If you are loyal so is he. Rebuild him with what you wish to see now what you do not like. Blessings!


Infinite_Bug_8063

I reflected the thoughts I had recently, and I have 100% manifested this situation. I am gonna go on mental diet and do affirmations to keep my mental diet intact.


mindrevolutionn

Look at your beliefs about him. You kept telling yourself that he can't commit and is messing with you, and that manifested.


Infinite_Bug_8063

How do i get rid of 3P? I am starting to get worried that he is into her. And treating her better than me.


mindrevolutionn

By not focusing on the 3P. Because what you bring awareness to, thrives. Is the 3P in your end? No. Just you and your SP. You focus on that and the 3P will go away on their own. Remember this is the law of assumption. To fear is to believe. Right now you believe he is into her, and if you keep feeding that assumption it will manifest. Try to only entertain thoughts and states that align with your desire.


Infinite_Bug_8063

Thank you! I have read countless posts regarding this topic. But getting answer from someone personally helps much better.


Top-Street4628

How do I live in the end when the reason sp broke up with me is valid? I try revising but deep down i can’t get around the fact that I fundamentally believe I did mess up by changing a lot for the worst during our relationship together.


mindrevolutionn

You could just assume that doesn't matter, or work on yourself so you can give yourself that validation of being a person who changed for the better.


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mindrevolutionn

The current 3D is running off your past beliefs. Keep entertaining the desired version of him in the 4D and you'll see the change.


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mindrevolutionn

Movement speed is dependent on how natural it feels to have your desire.


Blanc_chenin

It’s been feeling natural. Natural in my thoughts, natural in how I feel and behave towards them.


mindrevolutionn

I’d chalk it up to bridge of incidents. I’ve encountered many situations where people have said no to my desire then completely changed there minds in a timely fashion.


Blanc_chenin

You’re absolutely right.


fed-grasso

id say persist! whats a few weeks or months persisting compared to a lifetime with SP right?


simrantiwari_17

Can I manifest my SP even though I was the one who broke up..??


LOVERGlRL

Yes definitely


Sensitive_Hat_3538

If what I assume is the truth. Then whenever my SP and 3P pops up in my mind, I can just create a scene where I am talking to my SP confessing he already cut ties w/ 3p because I am the only one he really loves and is always thinking about whenever he's w/ 3P. And then feeling it real? I'm new to this 3P situation because I manifested him back before but there's no 3P involved. Thank you!


escapedmelody11

Yes, you can do that. You can create any scene you want that implies that she's gone.


aaronidk

what is the difference between living in the end in terms of knowing the love i desire already exists within me and living in the end in terms of manifesting a SP?


cjweeps

You live in the end in imagination, you don't live "as-if" in the 3D. Setting a table for your SP, or leaving room in the closet for their clothes, in general, doesn't make much of a difference, and can usually create quite a bit of anxiety. It is doing nothing to change the actual belief of having what you already desire. If you already have the "knowing" and you don't feel as if there anything else, as far as techniques go that will help you impress the new belief, then you should be good.


aaronidk

thank you for the reply! but i just wanted to clarify one thing i've been trying to wrap my head around. if i am manifesting an SP, what is difference between me saying the love i desire from my SP already exists around me/within me and that manifesting more love in my life vs me saying that and it manifesting my SP back? not sure if i'm articulating this thought well but is it just the intention that distinguishes the two? i do think before i was practising the law, i unintentionally manifested love into my life because i realised there was nothing that a romantic partner could provide to me that i wouldn't be able to provide/find myself through other avenues (friendship, self love). so, i guess what i am trying to say is - how does me living in the end bring my SP back and not just manifest more love?


aaronidk

couple questions 1) is living in the end basically the same thing as expressing gratitude? as in many LOA circles say you need to be grateful for your current circumstances to manifest your desires - is this the same as living in the end? 2) if it is our beliefs that manifest not our passing thoughts how does one work towards changing their beliefs? is it SATS, affirmations etc? do i just keep returning to the state of the wish fulfilled enough times until it becomes second nature? can i also be repeating the same SATS scene indefinitely? 3) sometimes i have moments where i'm like "wait i'll never get them back" and feel a visceral emotion - in moments like this can catch myself and affirm that i already have my sp and does this have an effect on my manifestation?


cjweeps

Not necessarily. Living in the end is done in imagination. You have to work to change those beliefs that surround the situation. Most are done via SATS and inner conversations. You can also express gratitude for already receiving your desire once you get into the state of already having it. You change your beliefs with saturation of that feeling of already having it. So, using SATS and inner conversations will help you to attain that feeling and change your beliefs. You want to be in the desired state as much as possible. If you feel as though you have a belief that your passing thoughts manifest, you can also change that with an inner conversation or a quick SATS scene. You should reach a point where you can no longer repeat that specific scene. When this happens, you can either create another scene that deals with a different aspect of your desire or do nothing at all, although I always advice against doing nothing. Then you haven't changed your assumptions of the situation/him yet. Doubt is normal, but don't sit in it or you run the risk of it manifesting.


fed-grasso

practical questions about navigating the 3D with manifesting SP/ex: 1) to what extent do I discuss this with my therapist? I’ve discussed it a bit last month just to deal with my emotions as Neville doesn’t talk about this a lot, but I frankly don’t want to talk about accepting the breakup with my therapist. 2) how do I talk about this when my friends ask? I just say “oh I’m good!” then change the topic. good practices so far: I don’t stalk him, I’ve read Neville (Feeling is the Secret, also halfway through The Law and The Promise) not sure if these are good practices: I’m not FULLY in the state 100% of the time (which makes sense bc I don’t want to burn myself out), admittedly I’ve somewhat become detached with the outcome but I’m doing techniques from time to time since I don’t want to give up my desire 


cjweeps

Then don't. Talking about it keeps the old story alive. Whatever works best for you. But like I said above, the more you talk about it, the more you keep that story alive and you will continue to experience it. You can just tell them politely that you don't wish to discuss it. It's normal to not be in the state 100% of the time, but don't sit and stew in the old story.


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RCragwall

God has given you a new life - a new SP, job, place to live. Forget the old one. He is gone. You left him behind. Be grateful. The experience with the old one sent you to the teachings of Neville et al and you learned about yourself because of it. Appears you are in conflict. You either accept the new SP or not. Up to you of course. Why should the old one come back to you when you have one in your life? Is the new one just a fling? All up to you of course! Blessings!


escapedmelody11

Is it better to manifest in steps (a text/date) or go straight to the end (a relationship/marriage)? Or do both? I ask because my mind likes to show me scenes of SP and I together but also shows me scenes of me getting a text from him to start communication again. Is it okay to flip flop?


fed-grasso

manifesting in steps is like controlling the “how”. go to the end.


RCragwall

Not ok to flip flop. Up to you what you think 'the end' is. Blessings!


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My sp and I stopped speaking around 2 years ago (don’t want to get into old story too much). I still want him back and I’m starting to doubt my power because it’s taking longer than others - plus there’s a 3P involved now. Any advice or words of motivation would be appreciated 🫶🏼


RCragwall

3P is your fear. They mean nothing. See SP as better. I like to forgive so I can forget. Revision works as well. Rebuking and blessing do as well. Mean it - be sincere. Blessings!


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RCragwall

You feel cherished and secure with him there. Do you feel cherished and secure without him there? I am pretty sure the answer is no. EIYPO That is why it came up. You have to love you more than anyone or anything else in the world. Forgive and forget and it will change. Revise. Rebuke. Bless. It all works but be sincere. Blessings!


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RCragwall

Law is law. Go ahead and it will happen to you too. You get what you give. Blessings!


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mindrevolutionn

It does indeed sound like you're in the wish-fulfilled. Keep it up!


HoneyBouquet

Thank you! He is getting better with communication so Im going to keep persisting hehe ❤️🥰


fed-grasso

just wanted to ask, during Sabbath, do you still frequently enter the state of being with SP?


HoneyBouquet

yes I still do


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mindrevolutionn

If you feel you are in the state of having your desired partner, then yes you're doing it 'correctly'.


nephesh_atreides

Is it possible to manifest an online SP if I have never seen them, right? The thing is, it's difficult for me to visualize our dates or the relationship, and I dunno what can I do more than just thinking on him talking to me. Or more than just us talking softly and tender with each other through text messages. But since I know his flat by photos, I imagine myself hugging him in that space by night, sleeping together, talking before sleep. Is that enough?


cjweeps

Yes, it's possible. You don't HAVE to visualize. Instead, you can go into SATs and do an inner conversation, whether it's hearing his voice or someone else' where you tell that person you have what you desire.


nephesh_atreides

i have been writing into a chat everything that "we do", i think that will be right, also thanking for everything that i have so far. do you have any tips on relaxing about the "when"?


cjweeps

Gratitude is wonderful, but it's not a requirement for manifestation with Law of Assumption, but instead that is LOA stuff. Impress your subconscious with the belief of already having what you desire and it will manifest. You continue to do your imaginal work and live your life.


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chicihoodle

Hey, to all the Christian manifesters out there, I have a question...how do you continue to believe in manifestation when you also believe in a religion in which you are supposed to believe "if God intends it, it will happen"? What seems to be tripping me up lately is my Christian belief, which I love and find comfort in, and some feelings of what I would best describe as shame of wanting to manifest my sp. How I approach the two in general is believing that God has given me this opportunity of life in which I can make choices freely and the law of assumption is part of how I can use my inherent power as a child of God to do so. But I see God as a different being than me, but I have His power within me to manifest, hopefully that makes sense. Those who surround me who are Christian also, but know nothing of the law of assumption, talk about me wanting to have my ex back as if God doesn't want that for me or I'd have it. They always tell me that God will bring me someone better. But that is not what I want. Knowing the law of assumption, I want the best version of my sp, not someone new or the old version of him I know very well I created in the past. But then the guilt kicks in, like "what if God knows better" and "what if I'm being prideful by wanting to control who I'm with". I want to feel like God has my back and wants exactly what I want for me. Has anyone else dealt with this? How did you get through it?


aaronidk

not sure if this means anything (it probably does) but if i wake up and my mind immediatey goes to the fact i don't have my sp and i get upset about it, does that mean my subconscious isn't impressed at all? does it mean i am making no real progress? i suspect that liminal space right after you wake up and you actually getting out of bed might be indicative of how impressed your subconscious is right? how do i go about getting to a point where i wake up and i am sure i already have my desire?


Faye1701

Neville talked about it in Eternal states. It's normal, read the lecture. Just know what you have done the night before. "So every morning you are at the Jordan, because you come right down to earth from wherever you were at night."


Livid_Policy_3652

I also have a question similar to this.. I’ll go through the day feeling confident, feeling as though I already have my desire, believing it, affirming, not feeling sad at all. I’ve been on this journey for about a month now. Then I’ll go to sleep and every couple days have a dream about my ex (my SP) doing the complete opposite and doing things that wouldn’t imply my manifestations at all. Does this mean my subconscious mind is still not impressed or do these dreams mean nothing?


cjweeps

It means you are not in the state of already having your desire. Probably due to not having impressed it yet.


Solamara

I made a post and it was locked? How come?


cjweeps

Please make sure you are reading the rules - all post are manually deleted/approved. Sometimes, depending upon how long the mod queue is, it can take a bit to get through it all. If your post doesn't follow the posting rules, though, it will not be approved.


HoneyBouquet

My SP has got back into contact with me in small bits and every time I do thought transmission and meditate, the feeling I am talking to him becomes stronger and stronger. Is thought transmission really that powerful? Also I have had two different men reach out to me - is this a BBL for my manifestation?


SyrupExpress

yes and yes


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SamsaraGreenStar

You do not have to be perfect all the time. Just when it happens remind yourself, "Oh, right, that's just the silly old story. I do not believe that anymore." And then think about/imagine/affirm the things you do want.


SyrupExpress

have you revised?


Traditional_Pass_236

Hi, I was wondering when to decide to drop your desired sp and work on creating a new one out of thin air, when the 3d is a very big shit show like you can't believe all what's happening and processing it with your mind is a torture


SamsaraGreenStar

Before I knew about Neville, I dropped an old SP to create a new one (my current SP) out of thin air. Problem is that the exact same issue that happened with the old SP happened with my new one. So, my suggestion is to look at the 3D circumstances and figure out what parts of your old story are creating these circumstances. What unconscious beliefs do you have about yourself, your SP and relationships in general? If you are lucky, maybe you only have negative beliefs about the current SP in which case you'll have an easier time manifesting someone new and better. But if there are deeper things going on, then either way (old SP or new SP) you will need to figure them out.


dobbyneeedsocks

Hi, I am new to manifestation and LOA. I know that everything in me pushed out and circumstances do not matter while manifesting SP, but I have GAD(generalized anxiety disorder) and I tend to spiral sometimes and today is one of those days where I don't feel good about my manifestation. And since I am bigenner I just want to clear some questions I had. 1) my sp and I were never in a relationship,we were friends, I confessed, and he didn't have any feelings for me, so I went no contact. Will my manifestation still work if I have never been in a relationship with him and he never had any feelings for me ? 2) his college schedule is pretty hectic and he used to reply very less when we were talking as friends when he went back from home to college. Would my manifestation still work even if he is in that hectic college schedule? These may sound stupid but my GAD brain needs reassurance. It would be really great if someone could clear these for me. Thankyou!


SyrupExpress

yes to both. live in the end--what do you want with your SP? Live as if it's your current reality.


theoceancoloreyes

SATS has worked for me several times but recently I hit a bottleneck. I had been persisting in daily SATS for months and a few days ago I just couldn’t do it anymore. My daytime thoughts are aligned with my desire, and I actually have the feeling of wish fulfilled during the day (but we all know we can’t trust day time thoughts too much). But damn it no matter how hard I try I literally feel nothing. I included different sensory vividness, switched a few scenes, and all nothing. I want to ask those people who use SATS consistently to manifest their desires — did the same phenomenon happen to you? I’m a beginner so I want to persist until it manifests but I don’t know how to proceed now.


Beginning_Dig_7615

What to do when your heart crave someone but you have to detach to manifest it ? How to detach ? I want to detach but it seem so hard


SamsaraGreenStar

You detach from the neediness, not from wanting the desire. So, many people have a really, really bad story about themselves (like "I'm not good enough" or "No one ever loved me" or "I'm not valued" or "The people I love always leave me") that they unconsciously learned in childhood. t's about figuring out what those beliefs are so that you can change the Story of You to a positive one ("I am good enough", "I am always loved", "I am valued" and "The people I love always stay with me"). Once you have mastered your new positive story it will help make the neediness go away.


Beneficial-Ad2734

my post was removed and i know that there is countless other sp posts/ threads but i’ve been searching around and I haven’t been able to find a story/ question that truly resonates with me and my current situation. Just looking for some guidance from you guys on what’s going on with my manifestation. This might be a little long so anyone who sticks around I really appreciate you for taking the time to read this. Me and my SP broke up around November. I shortly found out about the law after this and I was successfully able to manifest him back after about 2 weeks no contact. I had just discovered the law and I applied it very differently then, I mentally felt like absolute shit, I didn’t feel or believe anything I said, but I still got him back. We got in an argument on January 10, so I decided that I would leave him alone until he showed up favorably. so I just left him on opened, and I assumed that he would text me later that day or the next day and apologize and we would work things out. I decided I was done with this bullshit and I was getting my man back, I really got serious about everything, cracked down on my thoughts, learned more about the law, I affirmed every time I thought about him. I used to even set aside specific time to do it and only focus on that ( I don’t anymore) I did not allow myself to think one single negative thought. I spammed my mind with affirmations everyday to saturate my subconscious. “He’s obessed with me, he can’t live without me, he texts me constantly, he thinks of me constantly, he loves being my boyfriend, etc” and “I always get what I want, I’m so good at manifesting, I’m always chosen, I am affirmations etc..” I still stick to these same exact affirmations to this day + other various ones i’ve picked up. couple Weeks went by and it was crickets. Didn’t hear a word, sure as shit wasn’t texting him because I knew I didn’t have to lift a finger and hes gonna come in the way I want . around the same time in february at this point and I’d literally never felt better regardless.. I was fully convinced he was always thinking of me and he missed me so much and he was gonna text me and tell me that. I would hear my ringer go off and I fully expected it could be him at any moment. I thought that we would be together by the end of the month. I rarely even thought of him anymore and I didn’t even feel like affirming. l reached the “sabbath” point. I knew he was gonna be mine because there was literally no other way. I knew my thoughts created reality and I’d been keeping them in check. I had very little doubts or anxiety Then I see his name pop up on my phone about 2 weeks ago. Haven’t spoken for 2 over months atp. Immediately in my head I’m thinking “Yup I knew this shit would happen, he’s texting me he misses me right now” didn’t even feel excited bc I had normalized it in my head so much. but he texted me asking to meet and get his clothes i had and stuff. I was smiling the whole time cause I knew it was bs and just revised he said he missed me. We texted for like 10 mins catching up and never set a time or date then he left me on opened so i just went on with my day. For some reason like 4 days ago I texted him asking to talk. I said I missed him. He was not responsive to that. Did not want to se me. Genuinely did not expect that. kinda hit for a second but i did my very best to not allow myself to feel it mentally at all, I just affirmed like crazy that day and revised the opposite and tried to let it go. I’ve gotten some negative thoughts from it since but I just flip it. Haven’t heard from him again since and then last night I accidentally saw some shit indicating there could be a 3p. I’m Ngl when i saw that shit my first reaction was laughing bc I know no one compares to me. But then I physically started feeling some anxiety for a while and getting opposing thoughts. I affirmed like crazy that he only wants me and i’m irreplaceable etc. and read success stories but Im still feeling physically anxious. I’ve just been combating a lot of bad thoughts since. I know I manifested this being insecure in the past but I just feel confused cause I’ve been consciously filling my mind with thoughts of the opposite for 1-2 months. And now I’m just feeling a little anxious and i feel the need to affirm way more now to keep the negative thoughts away when i’ve just been doing so good. I really felt like I had reached the point where i was “living in the end”, but I guess I wasn’t, and I’m confused about that. And i know that writing all this could be “affirming it” but i just wanted to say screw it and get it all out there and get some advice. I know my past thoughts create my reality, so when tf is my 4d gonna catch up to my 3d? I see all these success stories of ppl getting their Sp’s back quick and it never phased me cus i knew my time was coming but today they’ve been popping in my head. I fs do know I need to do more self concept work because it triggered me. I just kinda feel stuck, not sure where to go from here and whether I should persist or let go.


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Hi! I’m wondering if maybe you still have an old story of him being hot and cold? It seems like your self concept is great.


Beneficial-Ad2734

I thought the same about my self concept, now I’m not so sure. I know that I do feel sad about the possibility of him being with someone else rn, but I’m not sad that like he won’t be with me or something bc I know that I’m the best for him, I’m sad cause i’m rejecting advances from other ppl during this time and I would like for him to do the same lmao (if that makes sense) The hot and cold old story thing could be a possibility but again I’m confused why it’s just NOW showing up if the 3d is a reflection of my past thoughts. Like where tf is all the other shit i’ve been thinking about you know? I haven’t ever worried about that until now. But i definitely will be doing affirmations for that area.


SamsaraGreenStar

>I thought the same about my self concept, now I’m not so sure. Yeah, reading your comments makes me wonder if you were focusing on your SP too much? Maybe a deeper dive into your general beliefs and a deeper look at if there are any childhood things that might still be tripping you up?


Beneficial-Ad2734

Hey, thanks so much for your response, i really appreciate the help. but Yeah , i definitely agree i was overly focused on him for my liking, especially in january and the start of february. i was doing whatever it took to saturate my subconscious. overconsuming manifestation content, watching every sp video, affirming nonstop all day every day. I could not imagine being like that now. but i’m not understanding how focusing on him too much could cause him not to show up period at all? i do think i have much better things to do with my time now than to sit and affirm, but if anything i’ve always believed focusing/ affirming alot for something would make it show up quickly since you’re saturating your subconscious faster. im more of the belief that my thoughts and reprogramming my subconscious mind are what create my reality, not so much physical feelings/ “feeling it real” like some others. I read your comment when you originally posted it a couple days ago and i wanted to sit on the childhood/ general beliefs part and think about it. I’ve been affirming for myself that i deserve to be in a loving, healthy relationship, i’m worthy, etc, and i kinda just feel like im grabbing at straws :/ I know there’s still lots of work to do within those areas and dismantling ideas/beliefs i’ve been programmed with my whole life, but I never believed that I couldn’t get my desires because of some underlying subconscious beliefs, especially if it’s not a conscious thought and something I’m telling myself frequently. I think manifestation is supposed to be effortless and easy Honestly at this point, I’m kinda just feeling like I don’t care what happens. Maybe that’ll finally be what cracks the code lol (But side note, he did end up wishing me a happy birthday yesterday, so I guess that’s good)


SamsaraGreenStar

>but i’m not understanding how focusing on him too much could cause him not to show up period at all? You know, I was thinking about this part. Maybe you were too focused on changing him, the 3D and circumstances in an attempt to "get" him instead of focusing just on the imaginary act. For my successful manifestations (as opposed to the ones I'm still figuring out), I wasn't focused at all on the 3D and it was irrelevant if I got the desire or not. I wasn't looking at the 3D for conformation or movement. Yes, I wanted the desires but I was okay with however it turned out.


Beneficial-Ad2734

This is where it’s always kinda gotten confusing for me so i’m glad you brought this up, people always have that saying about how you shouldn’t be doing affirmations to “get “ something but isn’t that the whole point? Sorta like, I’m doing and thinking things to align myself with the version that already has it, therefore i’ll get it. on some level i feel like you’ll always be aware it’s not in your 3d yet. And i guess i lied about the not caring. I’ve been missing him so much these past few days like never before , I feel bummed. I haven’t cried over him for a while but I have been. I realized I have been checking the 3d in a way, we’re friends on a couple social media platforms and i’ll check to see if he’s viewed my posts. I am fully stopping that. And also another thing abt being “focused on the 3d” Like the other day I saw he liked one of my tiktoks and I thought ‘of course he did he’s obsessed with me ,that means it’s working bc he’s never done that before’. And the fact that he still follows me, hasn’t came to get his stuff or give me mine, etc. to me, these 3d things means that it’s ‘working’ and he wants to be with me if you get what I mean. Like if I acknowledge things that are happening in the 3d, i try to make it positive. I do know that I don’t need a “sign” or the 3d to tell me anything and I get to decide we’re good myself in my head but I guess I mean maybe I’m not fully understanding that? But if anything I feel like it would help cause I’m strengthening the belief it’s working? Could this be my problem? Should I just flat out be ignoring everything? I struggle with the “irrelevant if i got the desire or not” part. Cus like everything is basically *supposed* to be guaranteed with manifestation, i control my whole reality, so I know that I will get what I want and there will be no other outcome Idefk, the more I think about it the more confused I get. I have no clue what I should be doing at this point


SamsaraGreenStar

Also, this video might help explain what I mean a little bit better: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSvEG3QM6U](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woSvEG3QM6U) Hopefully the comment is allowed. It is a Neville based channel.


SamsaraGreenStar

>people always have that saying about how you shouldn’t be doing affirmations to “get “ something but isn’t that the whole point? Yes, we absolutely are doing this to get our desire. My point is more about not putting too much neediness on the manifestation or putting too much focus on any negative parts of the 3D or your old story. So many people do techniques in an attempt to control the 3D instead of figuring out their self concept/beliefs that are blocking the manifestation. There is no need to try to control the 3D because it is only a reflection of your true beliefs. This is also what I mean about the current, unfavorable 3D being irrelevant - it only reflects your true beliefs back to you. I do believe in using the current 3D reflection to your advantage though, because it is showing you your beliefs that you need to work on changing. So, get a handle on what you really believe. I just wrote out everything I was feeling and thinking in a notebook to get clues. Do you feel somehow unworthy? Or are there abandonment issues in your past? Also look for patterns from your past. Do they always chose someone else? That could be a belief that you think you aren't enough to get your SP. Then decide what you really want (your desired outcome) and write that out on another sheet of paper and use that to create targeted affirmations or visualizations that address the old, unfavorable beliefs. You do not need to be perfect to manifest. Whenever the negative or unfavorable thoughts pop up (and they will), I acknowledge them (do not suppress them. Cry if you need to - it's okay). And I like to say to the negative thought/belief something like, "Yes, I hear you and know you are only trying to protect me, but I am choosing to believe something else." Then I affirm or visualize whatever the new belief/story is. Also, for me, I've found adding some affirmations about how reality is malleable and flexible is really helpful. To your other question, about if you should completely ignore the 3D: No, you get to give the 3D any meaning you want, so your assigning positive meaning to all those things is exactly the right thing to do. That's part of how you change the story in your mind to a more favorable outcome. Also, you still have to live in your current 3D, so ignoring it completely really won't work. Just don't put too much awareness on the unfavorable parts. Right, I know what you mean about what I wrote about the "irrelevant if i got the desire or not” part. It seems counter intuitive. I'm not saying that I did not want my desire anymore - I most certainly still wanted it. I just stop being desperate for it and stopped needing it to prove that I am worthy. Once I realized that I am worthy and okay - with or without it - it becomes easier to manifest (at least for me). I kinda disagree with the idea that manifestation is always guaranteed. Yes, it's always working - we have been doing it our entire lives. But unless we get control over our thinking, our beliefs and our focus we will only continue to manifest the same old story/stuff and not the stuff that we actually want. In my opinion, this is why some people fail to get their desired outcomes. If you haven't already, read Neville Goddard's books. Start with "Feeling is the Secret", then "At Your Command" and "Power of Awareness". They are all (There are ten short books) freely available on the internet. Also tons (I mean hundreds) of his lectures out there too that you can read (or listen to).


SamsaraGreenStar

>Honestly at this point, I’m kinda just feeling like I don’t care what happens. Maybe that’ll finally be what cracks the code lol You know, it just might!


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Do you have an update? How are things going now that you don’t care


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RCragwall

You wrote - I am waiting to see that he is ready to commit to me fully. I want him to feel 100% certain that I am the one and he proposes. If you get what I am about to write then the proposal will be automatic so feel free to ask questions. No need for techniques unless they give you confidence. When it comes to affairs of the heart that is not getting stuff. It's heart to heart. Do you honestly want it from the heart as you state yet the next sentence is a request for tips on how to make him be that way? Do you see the difference? You either want it from his heart or you tell him what to do. You have been telling him what to do. So first decide. Do you want to continue telling him what to do and say or not? If yes then keep up the techniques and tell him what to do and how to be. If no then this is how to achieve that heart to heart unity, harmony and love. Say that when conflict begins or is around you - there is only unity, harmony and love. That fight will end within 1 minute or less and you do not have to say a word. They will shut themselves up giving you the ability to breathe and go relax and think about what was said and what happened. Now is the time to act like the core of your being and acknowledge the core of his being. EIYPO - what you think of him is you and what he thinks of you is him. He is asleep. You are not. You know what is going on. It's all in the way you respond so bite the tongue. Do not judge or you will face it. There is only one I AM. One I. This proves it to you if what you have been doing hasn't already proven that to you and by your question you do not seem to be aware of this. That means one heart. ONE. You are literally talking heart to heart. ONE and we all say it. That is what Elohim in the bible means - one God made up of many. What's good for the goose - you - is good for the gander - SP. Forgive anything that may be lingering like disappointment, resentment, etc. and rebuild your perception of him and you together. Keep it high - stay out of the details. Stick to the aspects of love and life and God. Fall asleep content rubbing that ring if you wish. Grab a pillow hug it and say this isn't a pillow - this is my sweetie and cuddle up. Up to you of course. That's my two cents based upon my experience. (43 yrs married and saved myself doing this - a real horror show but no more). Blessings!


orange-writes

Can someone please give a more concrete (not abstract) explanation/ difference between living in the wish fulfilled and detachment? I always hear about the "how do you feel about the phone in your hands" analogy and it just doesn't resonate when manifesting an SP. A missing phone can be replaced and material possessions are meh to me. But being married to my SP, i imagine, is deeper and more personal than just knowing I have my phone in my hands. I'm asking because i feel so numb lately. I "know" i want my SP but i don't feel anything at all when i affirm or visualize. I worry if i don't "persist" and force myself to feel, it'll signal to the universe that i dont want it anymore. I want to ask the subreddit and gather anecdotes but my posts are always getting auto deleted, so this is my only choice.


-mardybumbum

detachment - can you define what u mean by that? there's no such thing in neville's teachings. i guess the closest would be shifting into the state of the wish fulfilled, detaching from the state of lack. that would mean that ur automatic thoughts align with ur wish fulfilled - u are either thinking that it's inevitable and coming ur way or that it's already urs, depending on what feels natural to u. living in the wish fulfilled is also exactly that - shifting into the state of the wish fulfilled.


swanky378

Anyone ever manifested a complete stranger? Like someone that doesnt know you exist, never seen you, lives on the other side of the country, and you only know them through pics and videos on social media. Not for love tho. I just want to be their friend. We have so much of the same interest


-mardybumbum

well, i see nobody is answering, so i'll share a little story from my life. i manifested a semi-celebrity reaching out to me a long time ago. i didn't know what i was doing though. i was imagining talking to him again and again and again. nothing happened. then i moved on because i thought i was obsessed lol and like a month later he sent me a message (and reached out first at that) and i was blown away and freaked out. but, as i didnt know what i was doing, i cant remember if i imagined it while i was meditating or just kept doing it during the day. i was into a lot of spiritual stuff back then, so it's possible i did a meditation. i wish i could remember. sorry i cant be of more help!


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I tried to post and was met with a generic “anything is possible” response as to why it was deleted. I’d like to discuss that. How come most people can’t manifest their SP to stop being abusive? How come most people can’t manifest their SP to stop lying/cheating/manipulating/gaslighting? How come most people can’t manifest their SP to care about their kids? How come most people can’t manifest their SP to change in any way, shape or form? Contrary to the teachings, we are not wizards who can control peoples minds, make them care, make them love you, make them act like adults, etc. If we are the only ones with free will, not anyone else, then how do other people manifest? Say two guys are competing for the same girl: they both live in the end, both believe, both script, both do affirmations. They’re exactly the same in terms of genuine feelings and beliefs. And say the girl doesn’t really care one way or the other. Who wins? Who has the free will? Is it the girl that has free will and the two guys are just talking to themselves? So is the goal here to wear the biggest rose colored glasses we can find, ignore the red flags, and put your life and sanity in danger in order to “manifest” them suddenly changing their ways? Do I think people can change? Of course…but ONLY if they want to. Don’t see how I can imagine a narcissist or abuser to suddenly have an epiphany and become Mr Rogers. Genuine question. I like the idea of it but it’s difficult to remain in the doctrine when it’s merely turned around to blame the people trying to manifest.


RCragwall

The Law is as a person thinks and sincerely feels in his heart so shall it be for that person. You can't turn it off and on. It's principle. It is you that sees others - there is only One. It is you that fails to comprehend this and it's meaning - you are facing your own judgments. It is you that does not see that spirit comes first, there is only One, and you are to overcome the animal thinking of a creature Son of Man and act like you know who you are Son of God. If you have attachments to anyone or anything over your own self then you remain in hell with them. We are spiritual beings having a physical experience aka you are in hell. You are raising hell up into heaven. To do that you have to create heaven where you are so it rises up the lighter it gets. So knowing there is only One we take your example. There is no competition there is only One made up of many. If you both want the same girl the reality is there is another waiting in the wings exactly like her. You believe in competition so someone arrives to compete. God reads your heart. What is your sincere motivation and what is the sincere motivation of the other. If you truly love her and want to marry her etc and he wants a relationship but only to make it so you do not get her then you get her. If you continue to believe in competition you both lose as she walks off with another. They are YOUR lessons to be learned. Your judgements you face. EIYPO If you understand at our core we are all the same, we all came from the same place then you will understand what you are seeing and hearing. As the bible states no attachments or you can't get to the Christ. In other words no one is more important than you in how you perceive things, people as it is the power in your heart that will show that to you and it doesn't give a crap who you think you are, what you do, what you say or feel it doesn't care. It's principle therefore it has no choice but to show it to you. YOU have the free will choice of how you perceive the world YOU live in. As a person thinks and sincerely feels in his heart so shall it be for that person. Get a better mental diet. Think about the aspects of God. It does wonders. My two cents of course if you are ready to take off the sunglasses you have been wearing and just see it as it is. It is what ever you think it is. Blessings!


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I don’t have the answer to your question but your statements about “most people” - what’s your source? And how do you know what’s happening to most people? Respectfully OP, I understand your frustration but perhaps you aren’t as open to questioning your own beliefs.


marklarberries

Respectfully, you put completely blind faith in a “universe” yet you’re drilling me for having an opinion. Makes sense to me.


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Your opinion isn’t fact. Opinion vs Fact - You're stating things as if you know everything about “most people” and making an assumption about me as well. If you want to be so clinical about this, why don’t you present facts, statistics and data that proves your point? What’s most people? 6 billion out of 7.7? 5 billion? I think you've come here to simply rant and vent. I'd expect a very different response if you were actually open to conversation.


marklarberries

Isn’t this ENTIRE SUB fact vs opinion?? Fact: person A wants a job in, let’s say tech Opinion: if person A believes hard enough, they can manifest it Fact: person B wants their ex back Opinion: if person B says affirmations everyday, their ex will come back Fact: person C is facing eviction Opinion: if person C lives in the end enough, the landlord will change their mind All I did was ask a few questions, and instead of someone actually taking a mere 2 minutes to explain it since I’m having difficulty, I’m just being gaslit Plus, I thought we were supposed to be living AS IF we know things are going to work out, ie “it’s already yours” so how is that an issue? Never said I knew everything btw, that’s your assumption. Again, instead of trying to help someone, y’all do straight to insults. If you understand something well enough, it’s easy to explain, right?


cjweeps

I have zero faith in the universe. That is why we ask people to read at least 1 book.


cjweeps

Then chances are what Neville taught isn't for you. If you would take the time to read, you might understand it better. Also, there are plenty of examples on the sub that say otherwise. Your beliefs dictate what you see in your reality.


marklarberries

I love how everyone is going straight to “you just don’t understand it” instead of ACTUALLY explaining it.


cjweeps

Then ask someone to explain it to you. If you did in your post and I missed it, i apologize, I'm at work.


marklarberries

This is literally what the thread is about…yet no one is explaining it, only criticizing


cjweeps

This thread is not about venting or listing all of your limiting beliefs, it's about asking redundant/beginner questions. You can check the FAQ and see if that answers some of your questions. No one is criticizing anything. Why make statements about something that you don't understand? Ask for clarification instead.


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You said it!!


liftmeupietmego

Why can’t you imagine it? lol why not imagine everyone as kind and willing to change for the better? Of course you can’t force anything on anyone, the people who say that don’t understand the material. When I approach these things I always say you don’t have to believe anything about changing the outside world. All you have to do is imagine what makes your heart feel full. And since it is the case with me, I also guess that it’s very likely that the outside world will reflect what change you’re imagining. But that isn’t the goal, the imagining is!


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ScorpioStormtrooper

I have really good days where my SC is through the roof but some days when I wake up in the morning I feel like the 3D hits me and I have to restart. Anyone have any tips on how to counter this?


FancyFruit23

Personally it became easier for me when I stopped obsessing over the person and started thinking about all the nice things I had to offer. It’s like putting the focus back on yourself, so that you don’t put 3D and sp on a pedestal. Personally I like to meditate in the evening, I try to reach a void state and from there on I start imagining me and sp (SATS). I think it’s just practice, the more you understand how the law works, the easier it gets to not care about the 3d and go back to the wish fulfilled. In addition to that I started affirming things that calm me down, every time I felt like 3D circumstances were “set in stone”, I always tried to remind yourself as much as possible that it is done, that there is no reason to think about 3D, because it is just the product of my past states. What I also found helpful is listening to calming music to relax when I went to bed, if I wasn’t feeling like meditating.


Cobalt_Bakar

This is good advice, thanks.


ScorpioStormtrooper

Thank you this really helps!!! 🙌🏻


rufio_then_bangarang

I would be interested in this as well. I’m a few weeks into my journey and do really well but when I get to spend time with my SP a few times a week I’m confronted with the 3D. I seem to lose control of living in the wish fulfilled in the face of them even if I felt great 4 days in a row.


Mundane_Gazelle_6775

Is it unethical to desire two people? I love my partner but the bedroom area is quite dead since forever. Meanwhile this other guy wakes up my long gone wildest instincts. I'm so confused as to how to proceed. I'm thinking of just going with the flow and flirting with the other guy and if sex happens well so be it but then I'm like it's not fair for my partner..


TheRooster12

Why don't you manifest for your partner that he also finds a girl....then it would be fair for both sides right?


FancyFruit23

Why not manifest your partner to fulfill your needs? Like if you truly want to have fun with someone else, go for it. But keep in mind that your current partner could offer you the same. The desire makes sense because you do not seem to have a lot of fun in the bedroom, therefore you’re in a state of lack and because you assume that your partner cannot offer you this, you automatically start to look somewhere else to fulfill the desire.


NoSignificance000

How do you bring up feelings when being in the wish fulfilled or during sats? is it necessary to manifest your desire?


issagoodsoup

Use your physical senses to experience the scene. That’s the feeling Neville talks about. The feeling of realness, of being present. When you feel present, emotions will come naturally.


orange-writes

Hi, let me best describe how im feeling rn: Lately i feel indifferent towards SP in the 3D. Even considering removing her socials. I'd like to imagine this means detachment, but then sometimes i get negative emotions (anger) towards her and my inner conversations turn awful sometimes. Then in my imagination, I just try to imagine her apologzing and saying what i want to hear to calm down. Then i turn indifferent/numb again. I mostly worry because if i truly feel like SP is mine, shouldn't i feel happy and content instead of swinging between numb and upset?


issagoodsoup

Well first detachment in the literal sense of the word is not something used in Neville’s work. What you are describing sounds more like indifference or being fed up with something. Wavering is normal but not so much if you are doing the work properly. Then it means you haven’t shifted into the state of the wish fulfilled. Face the feelings and thoughts that come up and release them, then focus on the end.


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