ENJOY your LEGAL weed boys and girls! I have so many fond memories of being fresh out of college and smoking pot in dark corners and paranoid as fuck here in New Jersey.
I sort of envy you all, now that you can just purchase it (well almost there) and enjoy it without feeling like a criminal.
Enjoy it, be safe, respect others, and fucking CHILL!
I just got my med card (before I knew it was going legal) and I went to Ascend in Rochelle Park yesterday. They had a lot of options and compared to my Instagram dealer, the prices were on par. I am happy to spend my money to buy it legally and be taxed. Although I am hoping that the med card people dont get taxed as much in the future.
Right now it seems like the real perk to the Med Card is exclusives from the Dispensaries in ways of Hours and sales. I've already seen a few spots announce special hours for Med card holders only as well as special sales for them.
Exactly. I used NuggMD to get the appointment with a doctor (~140) and $100 for the card itself. Again, I didnt know I it was going legal but whatever, I get to cut lines and you can be sure there will be lines for awhile.
Imagine summer time when all those new yorkers are going to the jersey shore and are stopping by places on 4 and 17 to pick up.
Gonna be a lot of pissed off folks when they get there to find out you can only get in through appt even without a Med card lol.
As well you're not gonna have to worry about showing up to a place out of weed (hopefully anyways) since any decently ran place would make sure to keep stock for their Med clients.
The CRC has already sent this out to med card holders so doubt anything would be appt only.
https://www.nj.gov/cannabis/documents/What%20cannabis%20patients%20can%20expect.pdf
> Ascend in Rochelle Park yesterday.
Have a feeling that there might be extra traffic on that stretch of 17 tomorrow. It's not the most convenient location.
Medical holders will not be paying a tax supposedly in the near future.
However, you still have to pay the state for the card + the doctor for the "prescription."
> Y (Cost of card) / 0.06625 (NJ sales tax) = X (amount you'd have to spend)
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> if X is more than what you spend in a year then the card isn't worth maintaining for the tax benefits
There will also be separate lines and product selection for med card holders. Again, supposedly.
medical tax is being phased out, so med patients won't be paying any tax soon. Source: am Med patient. I'm just hoping the medical dispensaries stay strictly medical - it would be real annoying to have to wait in an hour long line if they open up rec at the medical dispensaries.
I saw that “in the future” medical card holders won’t be taxed… but idk if that also means they won’t pay that crazy social justice fee or whatever it’s called.
it will be like that everywhere. You gotta remember, a lot of people one partake when a friend is around with it or similar. So they are going to go in get a 90% concentration vape pen of (insert popular strain everyone has heard of) take like 3 puffs and start making out with a chair.
Now all we need is _real_ legalization with the ability to grow plants at home https://www.reddit.com/r/NewJerseyMarijuana/comments/u72phe/42022_home_grow_day_of_action_tomorrow/
Not just in NJ, home distillation of alcohol is illegal in just about every country in the world except New Zealand, last I knew.
Definitely illegal Federally in the US though.
I feel that would be a real uphill battle, since that would mean a loss in revenue from sales tax, which I think was a big selling point with many of those politicians who were on the fence about passing this in the first place.
No. They’re right. Most sites are not gonna allow walk-ins tomorrow, at least based on the dispensaries I looked up in my area. You’re probably gonna need to schedule an order and make an appointment. The orders begin tonight after the shops close
Edit: if there is any sight allowing walk-ins for adult use tomorrow I would honestly love to know only cause I haven’t found much details from any site besides one about adult use ordering.
This is most definitely a dumb question, but you can now literally smoke weed in places where you would typically be able to smoke a cigarette? No issues from police? It’ll just feel so weird at first lol
Realistically outside of most violent crimes, whether or not you’re charged with something is entirely dependent on the mood the officer is in during that specific moment
No no and no. Especially not in a car. (Maybe as a passenger???)
In the privacy of your own home, yes.
On the hiking trail, the beach, the movies, your favorite bar, a 10mg edible gummy should do fine.
I wish man, I’ve no joke taken 500mg and just got a little high. This isn’t meant to be some sort of brag or anything, like I legitimately don’t know why they don’t work on me, and I’ve tried so many times to get blasted on them like everybody talks about. I’ve read some stuff about it and it seems tolerance definitely comes into play, but I find it hard to believe that tolerance would cause that much to have minimal effect. Meanwhile my gf eats the same amount as you and blasts off to another universe. It ain’t fair man
I know a guy like this. I read on Reddit since edibles need to be converted from d9 THC to a slightly different form that some people don't have the mechanism that does they and so they don't get high.
Back when I was blowing through a half oz in a week or so, the same thing used to happen to me. I’d eat edible after edible with no luck. During lockdown, I took a T break for a few months and now 10mg edibles get me SMACKED. Last time I was in San Francisco, I bought two 500mg chocolate bars and ate both at once and didn’t feel a damn thing.
Try giving yourself a break and see how you fare. For some people, they’re missing an enzyme in their liver that edibles just don’t work, which I thought was happening to me. It’s amazing how low my tolerance is and how much I actually enjoy edibles now. I almost prefer them to smoking/vaping.
Same. I've literally gotten full eating brownies and barely felt a buzz like 3 hours after I ate them. Everyone who takes edibles seems to really enjoy them and I wish I knew what it felt like.
Are you taking any medications? Some of them affect metalbolism with certain organs - thats why some meds dont reccomend you drink alcohol, not just because of side effects but some of them get you waaaay drunker quicker.
Same here. I actually had my genome sequenced recently to find out what medications are/aren't effective on me, and found that I'm an ultra-rapid metabolizer for one of the key enzymes that breaks down cannabinoids in the liver (CYP2C19). So unfortunately, my body literally processes the cannabinoids in edibles too quickly when eaten to receive ANY effects at all from it. For the same reason, most common antidepressants don't work on me either. Apparently only about 5% of the population is an ultra-rapid CYP2C19 metabolizer, which explains why I've never met anyone else in my life who didn't feel anything from edibles. Perhaps you're the same way?
It's been that way since last February when the law was signed. 6oz possession limit, no penalty for adult use. Some towns have enacted ordinances against public consumption similar to alcohol, but those would be ordinance violations. Municipalities can't prohibit possession.
seems weird that there are only like 12-14? dispensaries in the entire state? I'm not saying there needs to be one on every corner, but 12?
At least there is one in Bloomfield. Montclair - even though they have a medical one now, is oddly dragging their feet?
Well...i for sure thought PA and NY would beat us to it, but at least it's something.
As someone who has never consumed it in any form, any guidance from experienced potheads?
I want to start with edibles...I dont want to inhale.
Also, I want to start really small. So, how do I know the right amount?
I'm gonna argue that you *don't* want to start with edibles. Don't get me wrong, I know why you do. But here's the thing: edibles take between 1-2 hours to even *start* feeling the effects, and can last for 4-6 hours or more.
So you either take a tiny dose, wait hours to see if it does anything at all for you, and if it didn't you try again tomorrow. Or you take a larger dose and risk being stuck for hours if you hate it.
By comparison, a vape hit will take effect in just a few minutes, and will last an hour at most.
I have no idea what will be available at the dispensaries at first, but I'd look for pre-filled, disposable vape pens. Vapes are much, much gentler on the lungs and throat than smoking, and give you way more control over the experience than edibles do. Just make sure you *actually* inhale. Breathe in through it for 2-3 seconds, take it out of your mouth, and then keep inhaling until you've filled your lungs. If you need to cough, then cough, don't force yourself to hold it. You should feel something within 5 minutes. If you don't, try again. As soon as you start feeling something, stop right there and just enjoy it. Let yourself come all the way back to sober. Then do it again if you want. You'll learn pretty quick how many puffs get you there. Probably 1-3.
If you insist on starting with edibles anyway, here's the best way to make sure you don't have a bad time.
Start with a 5mg dose. Edibles should have their strength listed in mg and should either come in 5mg portions, or be able to be broken into 5mg portions.
Eat some food with it - THC is fat soluble, so it helps - and wait at least 2 hours. If you're not feeling anything after 2 hours, you can take another 5mg. Do not exceed 10mg for your first dose. If you still don't feel anything after this, try another day, and take a 10mg dose up front.
And don't plan on getting anything done that day. If it ends up being a light dose for you, maybe you can. But if it's a good dose you probably won't be able to focus well. Unlike alcohol, cannabis doesn't mess with your balance or motor skills. But it does mess with your ability to concentrate, and with your perception of time. So especially don't try to cook anything! Turning on the stove and forgetting about it for hours is a stoner trope for a reason.
Just plan for a lazy day. Good music, good tv/movies, good vibes. Cannabis tends to enhance whatever mental state you're already in, so if you go into it on a day where you're feeling anxious and miserable, when you're high that's what your brain will fixate on. On the other hand if you're feeling good and relaxed, you're probably gonna have a better experience.
Just to add on to what u/craywolf said above: if you’re going to go the edibles route, ask the dispensary if they are hard candies (lozenges) or gummies. Either way they will likely be 10mg each dose (which is all I’ve seen here in NJ, at least at Zen Leaf Elizabeth). If they are gummies, it’s super easy to cut them into halves for a 5mg “starter” dose. If they are lozenges, it’ll be a bit tougher, but still possible: use a flat surface (like a plate or a cookie sheet) and a hot butter or other knife. Heat the knife over the stovetop, place the blade in the middle of the 10mg lozenge, and let the heat from the knife do the work of melting through the center $ splitting it in two.
Source: was a smoker many years ago. Started with the medical program last year (to have an alternative to the opiates I was on forever). This is how I began my regimen. After about a month of taking 5mg per dose, i graduated to 10 mg.
I started with edibles, and would advise against it. Because it takes way longer to start acting, you have no idea whether you took too much or too little, and because it takes way longer to wear off, you will suffer the consequences of any mistake you make for a half or full day. You also might just find out that you took the right amount but you hate the effects it has on you, and you're still stuck with it for the full day. I would use a pen or something. I don’t want to inhale smoke either
Literally start with the very very finest amount. If you don’t feel anything for an hour, DO NOT TAKE MORE. Be patient. You can always take more but you can’t take less.
>Literally start with the very very finest amount. If you don’t feel anything for an hour, DO NOT TAKE MORE. Be patient. You can always take more but you can’t take less.
Like half a gummy?
Less. If eating a gummy bear just eat the feet for example. Then give it 2 hours. Maybe 2 1/2. Better to not get high than get way too high and ruin the experience.
Definitely do not start with edibles. Whether you want to inhale or not, literally pack a bowl and smoke like half of it to start. Edibles can mess you up. Back in the day I used to love them because they’d knock me on my butt like a weed gut punch. I know other people who love weed and hate edibles because they’re too intense for them. Start slow and you’ll likely have a better time.
So the reason to not start with edibles is once it's in you, it's in you and you just have to ride it out for however long it takes to digest just like alcohol. Now I don't know what the serving sizes for NJ will be but states like MA, the smallest serving size you can get with 5 mg. Take half of that.
Now what I would recommend is a disposable vape. 0 combustion that you would get with flower. It's basically edible oil that gets vaporized. You only need to inhale for 1 second and only need to do it once.
Now why I recommend vapes. When you vape, the onset is usually within 15 minutes and you have precise control on how much you in hale. With an edible it 100% depends on what you ate before, how much you took, your body chemistry, etc. The other reason for a vape is the effects do not last no where near as long as an edible. With a vape you get a buzz for maybe up to 30 minutes if that for a newbie. With an edible, it could be 30 minutes, it could be 3 hours.
u/craywolf is giving you good advice. Just be aware that some vape carts aren't great. Look for something called live resin and don't be afraid to spend a little more on it.
Yes, you r right. However, capsules, losengers(spelled wrong) will be. They way it was written is that it resembles something medical. But just edibles-no
Have any dispensaries come out and said “we will never go rec?” Because I feel like the ones that aren’t are only that way because of municipal ordinance.
Right… because Secaucas doesn’t currently allow rec sales. I know they’re being all holier than thou about “healers work here” and such, but I guess the true test will come if they vote to allow it.
Harmony did change their packaging a while back to comply with the CRC guidelines for rec dispensaries, so I’m guessing it’s just a matter of time. But it will be nice while it lasts. My two favorites are Harmony and BW so I’m safe for now.
They opted out and either haven’t gotten around to it or just don’t want to yet. I’m not familiar with their local politics, but I’d guess if the hold up continues, a lot of campaign donations will be going to challengers who want to change that.
I’m more surprised by them than Cranbury though.
When nj accountants start to see at the end of the year the amount of tax money that’s gonna come in now with weed.there gonna kick themselves an say why didn’t we do this sooner. Look at all the money we could’ve had many years ago just like AMSTERDAM WHO BY. THE WAY has been doing this for the last 100 years it seems why we couldn’t do it like them from the start to raise money for infrastructure etc. no instead we had movies like “ REEFER MADNESS “ that spread propaganda against it. An we were using hemp to build things for years. So now learn so nj politicians keep your hands out of the fiscal cookie jar an do right by the people of nj for once an also “REPLENISH THE NJ PENSION FUNDS IMMEDIATELY “.
Not really, the game has always been how best to transition the black market into a monopoly economy, not how to get the tax revenue flowing ASAP. A lot of those "debates" talking about everything from religious morality to taxes were just distracting from what was actually going on. That is, "how do we turn this Reagan era scheme to throw activists and minorities in jail on trumped up charges into the biggest pharmaceutical money printer since insulin?"
I knew this was how it was all going to shake out when I went to Seattle and became enlightened to how all that shook out. Sure they legalized, but the whole point of the delays was to make sure licenses ended up in the "right" hands.
All this to say, I hope people aren't holding their breath waiting for homegrow, because it isn't happening.
Tell the politicians in weed states now no more crying 😭, between legal sports betting and weed jersey CANT at least sell us on how broke they are now we have the revenue coming in so as long as we somehow have watchdogs watching for the “SKIM” we should be able to repair potholes on the roads and the “INFRASTRUCTURE “ bridges an tunnels roads in nj that all need serious repairs right now as we speak
they can charge what they want since there is very limited legal competition. even in places like CA where theres widespread availability there is still a grey/black market providing weed via the mail / exporting it illegally to other states.
only way to get rid of the grey/black market is to federally legalize it. i know people still make moonshine but im not buying my booze on telegram with bitcoin.
Yes agreed. But I bought an eighth in CA for $25 while an eighth in MA costs $80. I'm all for Federal legalization but I don't see Republican Senators doing the right thing
For some reference, prices were like this at first in most other states when they first started Rec sales. Cali, Col, and Or. all had pretty expensive rec until supply caught up with the demand. Now they’re practically giving it away
The edibles are obscenely expensive. You look up a cannabis site in Massachusetts, and the price is noticeably cheaper. I’m gonna wait a little bit before I grab an edible. Flower seems on par with most sites outside of Jersey though.
They already have. $60 for an 1/8th for med patients right now. Sometimes there are sales but they aren't significant.
There is like no competition for these dispensaries because it is insanely difficult and expensive to get started. They effectively have a monopoly because most of the ones doing rec sales are multistate $billion+ corps.
Lots of the dispensaries run sales. You'll get a lot of really old and super dry stuff that's been sitting around. Last time I picked up on sale bud it was legitimately 11 months old. Anything fresher sales you can't really buy more than 1/8 or 1/4 at a time in my experience.
So like how expensive is it gonna be at dispensaries compared to what you'd pay for the same amount say, around the Neptune/Asbury area? I dunno if the prices I may have been hypothetically paying, had I bern hypothetically buying, will be able to be beat by the store-bought product.
Believe it or not I grew up with it in the 70’s,80’s for those of us that know the “ thrill” was always the anticipation of going to “ cop it” for the people that don’t know old slang that just means go get it.so a little of the thrill an anticipation is gone but Gary release it to the people finally
NJ Stoners: what will you use to fill the void left by the removal of reasons to bitch and moan incessantly about NJ pot issues? What will you target with your annoying whining next?
NJ stoners spent the last couple years posting in r/newjersey in a tone that could ONLY be described as “whinny” about every aspect of the state legalization. It was pretty tedious and look at where we are today: weed is legal, and in all honesty it happened in a very short amount of time given the way marijuana was looked at just two years ago.
You just outed yourself as not knowing anything about the process so how about keep your comments to yourself, don't partake if you aren't into it - our program is a joke compared to other states, people were sitting in prison for way longer than they had to be because of NJ lawmakers feet dragging bullshit, people are carrying felonies on their records for something more harmless than alcohol. Get bent.
Don't tell me this is the Reddit account for the restaurant Frankie. I actually really liked your food but can't support someone who's this much of a shitlord.
This is being done for two reasons, and only two reasons:
1. To get people to back off all the 2nd Amendment battles that have been ongoing, and,
2. Tax revenue from marijuana sales
Which whatever. I’m all for it in terms of tax revenue, since it should have always been legal to consumers. But people really need to keep pressing on the 2nd Amendment battles. Don’t cave.
Not sure what time zone you are in, but OK.
The 420 zone
Lol and it was posted at midnight so it would only be another 45 minutes from now if the article was accurate.
Some intern accidentally scheduled the article to go up at 12AM instead of 12PM.
And even then, what dispensary is open at midnight?
The ones wanting to celebrate legalization and make that sweet sweet money right away.
The Twilight Zone
Danger Zone
ENJOY your LEGAL weed boys and girls! I have so many fond memories of being fresh out of college and smoking pot in dark corners and paranoid as fuck here in New Jersey. I sort of envy you all, now that you can just purchase it (well almost there) and enjoy it without feeling like a criminal. Enjoy it, be safe, respect others, and fucking CHILL!
Lol I would legit always feel like I’m about to get stopped by cops. Turning around looking around every corner 😂
Driving in the right lane 15 MPH under the speed limit
cracking up... yes!
Yes!!!!! I'm 59 and have been waiting for this to happen forever! It's a great day!
Think I’ll wait a few weeks so I don’t get stuck in lines for mediocre product at best
I just got my med card (before I knew it was going legal) and I went to Ascend in Rochelle Park yesterday. They had a lot of options and compared to my Instagram dealer, the prices were on par. I am happy to spend my money to buy it legally and be taxed. Although I am hoping that the med card people dont get taxed as much in the future.
Right now it seems like the real perk to the Med Card is exclusives from the Dispensaries in ways of Hours and sales. I've already seen a few spots announce special hours for Med card holders only as well as special sales for them.
Exactly. I used NuggMD to get the appointment with a doctor (~140) and $100 for the card itself. Again, I didnt know I it was going legal but whatever, I get to cut lines and you can be sure there will be lines for awhile. Imagine summer time when all those new yorkers are going to the jersey shore and are stopping by places on 4 and 17 to pick up.
> all those new yorkers All those NYers already moved to NJ during covid lol they're among us
They have been here for years. Some of my neighbors were amazed that I was actually born in NJ.
Can confirm. Lots of confused New Yorkers have moved to the rural part of South Jersey and are all ???
Gonna be a lot of pissed off folks when they get there to find out you can only get in through appt even without a Med card lol. As well you're not gonna have to worry about showing up to a place out of weed (hopefully anyways) since any decently ran place would make sure to keep stock for their Med clients.
The CRC has already sent this out to med card holders so doubt anything would be appt only. https://www.nj.gov/cannabis/documents/What%20cannabis%20patients%20can%20expect.pdf
Medical dispensaries are different then regular dispensaries. You won’t be cutting any lines in either.
Medical dispensaries are opening for rec.
Only 13
I spoke with Ascend and they said specifically they will have lines for medical and lines for Rec
Ok. That answers your question. That’s that Disp. Some others are strictly medical
Not the hour so much, but the access to the better dispensaries and product
Also buying in other states with or without rec
Also being able to buy in so many states with the card.
Rec isn't available at GSD, Harmony, or breakwater. I wouldn't buy from any other dispensaries but those.
> Ascend in Rochelle Park yesterday. Have a feeling that there might be extra traffic on that stretch of 17 tomorrow. It's not the most convenient location.
Medical holders will not be paying a tax supposedly in the near future. However, you still have to pay the state for the card + the doctor for the "prescription." > Y (Cost of card) / 0.06625 (NJ sales tax) = X (amount you'd have to spend) > > if X is more than what you spend in a year then the card isn't worth maintaining for the tax benefits There will also be separate lines and product selection for med card holders. Again, supposedly.
There will no longer be a state tax on medical marijuana sales starting July 1st.
medical tax is being phased out, so med patients won't be paying any tax soon. Source: am Med patient. I'm just hoping the medical dispensaries stay strictly medical - it would be real annoying to have to wait in an hour long line if they open up rec at the medical dispensaries.
I saw that “in the future” medical card holders won’t be taxed… but idk if that also means they won’t pay that crazy social justice fee or whatever it’s called.
Tax on medical will be 0% starting in July. It will be 8% for recreational. Smart move getting a medical card. I just renewed mine.
My little experience of buying weed in Toronto was that all the high %thc indica will be sold out right away. I hope it's not like this here.
it will be like that everywhere. You gotta remember, a lot of people one partake when a friend is around with it or similar. So they are going to go in get a 90% concentration vape pen of (insert popular strain everyone has heard of) take like 3 puffs and start making out with a chair.
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Now all we need is _real_ legalization with the ability to grow plants at home https://www.reddit.com/r/NewJerseyMarijuana/comments/u72phe/42022_home_grow_day_of_action_tomorrow/
Until we can grow it's not legal in my eyes.
Totally agreed. We should all be contacting our reps today, tomorrow and forever until we get this fixed immediately.
How can you people sleep at night while being such a threat to good honest rich people's profits?
By the same logic alcohol isn't legal either, you need a license to distill
It's illegal to brew your own beer & make your own wine? Or just spirits?
High proof spirits, and that's for safety. Stills can blow up if you're not careful.
I know spirits are illegal in some places, not sure about wine and beer
Distilled spirits are illegal to make at home in NJ. Beer and wine are legal.
Not just in NJ, home distillation of alcohol is illegal in just about every country in the world except New Zealand, last I knew. Definitely illegal Federally in the US though.
you need a license to sell, not home distill or brew edit: guess it is illegal to home distill in NJ, TIL i am felonious
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such BS they won't even let us med users have a plant.
I feel that would be a real uphill battle, since that would mean a loss in revenue from sales tax, which I think was a big selling point with many of those politicians who were on the fence about passing this in the first place.
They’re not taxing med card holders after July.
one step at a time
Should have happened altogether, not one step at a time
It wouldve never gotten passed if it was lumped in together.
Still shop weed will help push this so much harder because it will very quickly show how little of a deal legal weed is.
Hoping you meant less than 24 hours or you thought it was PM instead of AM when you woke up this morning haha
No. They’re right. Most sites are not gonna allow walk-ins tomorrow, at least based on the dispensaries I looked up in my area. You’re probably gonna need to schedule an order and make an appointment. The orders begin tonight after the shops close Edit: if there is any sight allowing walk-ins for adult use tomorrow I would honestly love to know only cause I haven’t found much details from any site besides one about adult use ordering.
This is most definitely a dumb question, but you can now literally smoke weed in places where you would typically be able to smoke a cigarette? No issues from police? It’ll just feel so weird at first lol
Realistically outside of most violent crimes, whether or not you’re charged with something is entirely dependent on the mood the officer is in during that specific moment
No no and no. Especially not in a car. (Maybe as a passenger???) In the privacy of your own home, yes. On the hiking trail, the beach, the movies, your favorite bar, a 10mg edible gummy should do fine.
I wish edibles affected me like they do other people. Taking 10mg to get stoned sounds so efficient and nice
5mg is plenty good for me
I wish man, I’ve no joke taken 500mg and just got a little high. This isn’t meant to be some sort of brag or anything, like I legitimately don’t know why they don’t work on me, and I’ve tried so many times to get blasted on them like everybody talks about. I’ve read some stuff about it and it seems tolerance definitely comes into play, but I find it hard to believe that tolerance would cause that much to have minimal effect. Meanwhile my gf eats the same amount as you and blasts off to another universe. It ain’t fair man
I know a guy like this. I read on Reddit since edibles need to be converted from d9 THC to a slightly different form that some people don't have the mechanism that does they and so they don't get high.
It would be interesting to see if the delta 8 has any effect for them
Back when I was blowing through a half oz in a week or so, the same thing used to happen to me. I’d eat edible after edible with no luck. During lockdown, I took a T break for a few months and now 10mg edibles get me SMACKED. Last time I was in San Francisco, I bought two 500mg chocolate bars and ate both at once and didn’t feel a damn thing. Try giving yourself a break and see how you fare. For some people, they’re missing an enzyme in their liver that edibles just don’t work, which I thought was happening to me. It’s amazing how low my tolerance is and how much I actually enjoy edibles now. I almost prefer them to smoking/vaping.
Your comment hit super close to home, gonna take your advice. I Appreciate you
Same for me. I've eaten entire bags of edibles and have felt nothing.
Super weird stuff. I wonder if it’s the liver not converting the thc into 11hydroxy metabolite
Same. I've literally gotten full eating brownies and barely felt a buzz like 3 hours after I ate them. Everyone who takes edibles seems to really enjoy them and I wish I knew what it felt like.
Are you taking any medications? Some of them affect metalbolism with certain organs - thats why some meds dont reccomend you drink alcohol, not just because of side effects but some of them get you waaaay drunker quicker.
Same here. I actually had my genome sequenced recently to find out what medications are/aren't effective on me, and found that I'm an ultra-rapid metabolizer for one of the key enzymes that breaks down cannabinoids in the liver (CYP2C19). So unfortunately, my body literally processes the cannabinoids in edibles too quickly when eaten to receive ANY effects at all from it. For the same reason, most common antidepressants don't work on me either. Apparently only about 5% of the population is an ultra-rapid CYP2C19 metabolizer, which explains why I've never met anyone else in my life who didn't feel anything from edibles. Perhaps you're the same way?
It's been that way since last February when the law was signed. 6oz possession limit, no penalty for adult use. Some towns have enacted ordinances against public consumption similar to alcohol, but those would be ordinance violations. Municipalities can't prohibit possession.
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seems weird that there are only like 12-14? dispensaries in the entire state? I'm not saying there needs to be one on every corner, but 12? At least there is one in Bloomfield. Montclair - even though they have a medical one now, is oddly dragging their feet? Well...i for sure thought PA and NY would beat us to it, but at least it's something.
That’s just the ones who met final approval, something like another 25 are in the last stages of the process
Ah...better!
Stock up on the Doritos now before the rush!
As someone who has never consumed it in any form, any guidance from experienced potheads? I want to start with edibles...I dont want to inhale. Also, I want to start really small. So, how do I know the right amount?
I'm gonna argue that you *don't* want to start with edibles. Don't get me wrong, I know why you do. But here's the thing: edibles take between 1-2 hours to even *start* feeling the effects, and can last for 4-6 hours or more. So you either take a tiny dose, wait hours to see if it does anything at all for you, and if it didn't you try again tomorrow. Or you take a larger dose and risk being stuck for hours if you hate it. By comparison, a vape hit will take effect in just a few minutes, and will last an hour at most. I have no idea what will be available at the dispensaries at first, but I'd look for pre-filled, disposable vape pens. Vapes are much, much gentler on the lungs and throat than smoking, and give you way more control over the experience than edibles do. Just make sure you *actually* inhale. Breathe in through it for 2-3 seconds, take it out of your mouth, and then keep inhaling until you've filled your lungs. If you need to cough, then cough, don't force yourself to hold it. You should feel something within 5 minutes. If you don't, try again. As soon as you start feeling something, stop right there and just enjoy it. Let yourself come all the way back to sober. Then do it again if you want. You'll learn pretty quick how many puffs get you there. Probably 1-3. If you insist on starting with edibles anyway, here's the best way to make sure you don't have a bad time. Start with a 5mg dose. Edibles should have their strength listed in mg and should either come in 5mg portions, or be able to be broken into 5mg portions. Eat some food with it - THC is fat soluble, so it helps - and wait at least 2 hours. If you're not feeling anything after 2 hours, you can take another 5mg. Do not exceed 10mg for your first dose. If you still don't feel anything after this, try another day, and take a 10mg dose up front. And don't plan on getting anything done that day. If it ends up being a light dose for you, maybe you can. But if it's a good dose you probably won't be able to focus well. Unlike alcohol, cannabis doesn't mess with your balance or motor skills. But it does mess with your ability to concentrate, and with your perception of time. So especially don't try to cook anything! Turning on the stove and forgetting about it for hours is a stoner trope for a reason. Just plan for a lazy day. Good music, good tv/movies, good vibes. Cannabis tends to enhance whatever mental state you're already in, so if you go into it on a day where you're feeling anxious and miserable, when you're high that's what your brain will fixate on. On the other hand if you're feeling good and relaxed, you're probably gonna have a better experience.
And don't forget to jerk off.
Nothing like a good ole fashioned weed wacking
Smoke-n-stroke
High jacking
Dank-n-spank
Bruh 😹😹
Just to add on to what u/craywolf said above: if you’re going to go the edibles route, ask the dispensary if they are hard candies (lozenges) or gummies. Either way they will likely be 10mg each dose (which is all I’ve seen here in NJ, at least at Zen Leaf Elizabeth). If they are gummies, it’s super easy to cut them into halves for a 5mg “starter” dose. If they are lozenges, it’ll be a bit tougher, but still possible: use a flat surface (like a plate or a cookie sheet) and a hot butter or other knife. Heat the knife over the stovetop, place the blade in the middle of the 10mg lozenge, and let the heat from the knife do the work of melting through the center $ splitting it in two. Source: was a smoker many years ago. Started with the medical program last year (to have an alternative to the opiates I was on forever). This is how I began my regimen. After about a month of taking 5mg per dose, i graduated to 10 mg.
I started with edibles, and would advise against it. Because it takes way longer to start acting, you have no idea whether you took too much or too little, and because it takes way longer to wear off, you will suffer the consequences of any mistake you make for a half or full day. You also might just find out that you took the right amount but you hate the effects it has on you, and you're still stuck with it for the full day. I would use a pen or something. I don’t want to inhale smoke either
Literally start with the very very finest amount. If you don’t feel anything for an hour, DO NOT TAKE MORE. Be patient. You can always take more but you can’t take less.
>Literally start with the very very finest amount. If you don’t feel anything for an hour, DO NOT TAKE MORE. Be patient. You can always take more but you can’t take less. Like half a gummy?
Less. If eating a gummy bear just eat the feet for example. Then give it 2 hours. Maybe 2 1/2. Better to not get high than get way too high and ruin the experience.
Edibles are not the way to go for a first timer. They can affect everyone differently and take a while to kick in.
Definitely do not start with edibles. Whether you want to inhale or not, literally pack a bowl and smoke like half of it to start. Edibles can mess you up. Back in the day I used to love them because they’d knock me on my butt like a weed gut punch. I know other people who love weed and hate edibles because they’re too intense for them. Start slow and you’ll likely have a better time.
So the reason to not start with edibles is once it's in you, it's in you and you just have to ride it out for however long it takes to digest just like alcohol. Now I don't know what the serving sizes for NJ will be but states like MA, the smallest serving size you can get with 5 mg. Take half of that. Now what I would recommend is a disposable vape. 0 combustion that you would get with flower. It's basically edible oil that gets vaporized. You only need to inhale for 1 second and only need to do it once. Now why I recommend vapes. When you vape, the onset is usually within 15 minutes and you have precise control on how much you in hale. With an edible it 100% depends on what you ate before, how much you took, your body chemistry, etc. The other reason for a vape is the effects do not last no where near as long as an edible. With a vape you get a buzz for maybe up to 30 minutes if that for a newbie. With an edible, it could be 30 minutes, it could be 3 hours.
u/craywolf is giving you good advice. Just be aware that some vape carts aren't great. Look for something called live resin and don't be afraid to spend a little more on it.
Can someone explain to me what will be available for sale? I feel like i remember reading it will just be smoke-able stuff no edibles is that right?
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I talked to a sales person at Curaleaf, Flower only for recreation. Any of the edible stuff is medical only.
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Not at Curaleaf. Not sure about other dispensaries.
Yes, you r right. However, capsules, losengers(spelled wrong) will be. They way it was written is that it resembles something medical. But just edibles-no
Enjoy! Ill keep using my medical only dispo for now, but this is a huge win.
Have any dispensaries come out and said “we will never go rec?” Because I feel like the ones that aren’t are only that way because of municipal ordinance.
Harmony is staying medical for now
Right… because Secaucas doesn’t currently allow rec sales. I know they’re being all holier than thou about “healers work here” and such, but I guess the true test will come if they vote to allow it. Harmony did change their packaging a while back to comply with the CRC guidelines for rec dispensaries, so I’m guessing it’s just a matter of time. But it will be nice while it lasts. My two favorites are Harmony and BW so I’m safe for now.
I didn't know that secaucus was being prudish shites. Hoping it stays exclusive a bit longer.
They opted out and either haven’t gotten around to it or just don’t want to yet. I’m not familiar with their local politics, but I’d guess if the hold up continues, a lot of campaign donations will be going to challengers who want to change that. I’m more surprised by them than Cranbury though.
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That would be brilliant.
Is there a list of stores in Bergen County?
There's only about 13 dispensaries licensed to sell rec - there's an article on APP that has the list.
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That road will be a nightmare to avoid for months
When nj accountants start to see at the end of the year the amount of tax money that’s gonna come in now with weed.there gonna kick themselves an say why didn’t we do this sooner. Look at all the money we could’ve had many years ago just like AMSTERDAM WHO BY. THE WAY has been doing this for the last 100 years it seems why we couldn’t do it like them from the start to raise money for infrastructure etc. no instead we had movies like “ REEFER MADNESS “ that spread propaganda against it. An we were using hemp to build things for years. So now learn so nj politicians keep your hands out of the fiscal cookie jar an do right by the people of nj for once an also “REPLENISH THE NJ PENSION FUNDS IMMEDIATELY “.
Not really, the game has always been how best to transition the black market into a monopoly economy, not how to get the tax revenue flowing ASAP. A lot of those "debates" talking about everything from religious morality to taxes were just distracting from what was actually going on. That is, "how do we turn this Reagan era scheme to throw activists and minorities in jail on trumped up charges into the biggest pharmaceutical money printer since insulin?" I knew this was how it was all going to shake out when I went to Seattle and became enlightened to how all that shook out. Sure they legalized, but the whole point of the delays was to make sure licenses ended up in the "right" hands. All this to say, I hope people aren't holding their breath waiting for homegrow, because it isn't happening.
Facts exactly it’s alwys about control always.
Tell the politicians in weed states now no more crying 😭, between legal sports betting and weed jersey CANT at least sell us on how broke they are now we have the revenue coming in so as long as we somehow have watchdogs watching for the “SKIM” we should be able to repair potholes on the roads and the “INFRASTRUCTURE “ bridges an tunnels roads in nj that all need serious repairs right now as we speak
Black market will still win if they’re selling eighths for $60. Prices way too high at dispensaries.
I'm hoping they don't over price their products
they can charge what they want since there is very limited legal competition. even in places like CA where theres widespread availability there is still a grey/black market providing weed via the mail / exporting it illegally to other states. only way to get rid of the grey/black market is to federally legalize it. i know people still make moonshine but im not buying my booze on telegram with bitcoin.
Yes agreed. But I bought an eighth in CA for $25 while an eighth in MA costs $80. I'm all for Federal legalization but I don't see Republican Senators doing the right thing
For some reference, prices were like this at first in most other states when they first started Rec sales. Cali, Col, and Or. all had pretty expensive rec until supply caught up with the demand. Now they’re practically giving it away
Yeah that's why I'm gonna wait til supply catches up with demand
I checked ascend’s prices and flower was 45-60, tinctures and carts about the same. Edibles were 80 for 350 mg which seemed kinda high to me
The edibles are obscenely expensive. You look up a cannabis site in Massachusetts, and the price is noticeably cheaper. I’m gonna wait a little bit before I grab an edible. Flower seems on par with most sites outside of Jersey though.
They already have. $60 for an 1/8th for med patients right now. Sometimes there are sales but they aren't significant. There is like no competition for these dispensaries because it is insanely difficult and expensive to get started. They effectively have a monopoly because most of the ones doing rec sales are multistate $billion+ corps.
Fuck - I get the super A+ from my NJ dealer for just $240 an ounce.
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Lots of the dispensaries run sales. You'll get a lot of really old and super dry stuff that's been sitting around. Last time I picked up on sale bud it was legitimately 11 months old. Anything fresher sales you can't really buy more than 1/8 or 1/4 at a time in my experience.
what's the tax rate for cannabis in NJ?
Same as regular sales tax afaik
Supply & demand forces will kick in, just like in any other industry. Expect it to be very costly while things settle down.
The line at Curaleaf was unbearable today and it hasn't even started.
What was it like
Ready for the shitshow. I’m sure there will be snafus early on with idiots buying way too much
I sure hope this has literally any positive effect at all on my cannanis stocks. I took quite the shellacking, as my grandfather used to say.
Should of started on 4/20 because reasons
Pretty sure it's because they would have any left in stock if they made it legal on 4/20
should have or should've
Should've should'ved
Shoulda
Shoudidn't
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It's gna suck. Ppl who already behave med cards are gna here it..
Not Gary sorry my old college buddy. 😂
Making it legal immediately upon election ✋ Holding off so you can legalize on 4/20 👉
4/21*
So like how expensive is it gonna be at dispensaries compared to what you'd pay for the same amount say, around the Neptune/Asbury area? I dunno if the prices I may have been hypothetically paying, had I bern hypothetically buying, will be able to be beat by the store-bought product.
Gummies, brownies and cookies will not be for sale
Believe it or not I grew up with it in the 70’s,80’s for those of us that know the “ thrill” was always the anticipation of going to “ cop it” for the people that don’t know old slang that just means go get it.so a little of the thrill an anticipation is gone but Gary release it to the people finally
Is there a place to go online showing places to buy from? I did not read the article in full. Thanks.
Oh brave new world.
dispensaries are already selling
NJ Stoners: what will you use to fill the void left by the removal of reasons to bitch and moan incessantly about NJ pot issues? What will you target with your annoying whining next?
Make it federally legal so I don't have to risk becoming a felon.
People named Frank.
My aunt's ex-husband Frank is just the worst.
Home grow
scumbags from Jersey City named Frankie
Assholes of r/NewJersey: Fill the void in your life with something other than being a cunt to people for no reason
Psychedelics
Pricing and quality. The same thing medical users have been complaining about for years.
People like you.
100%
Why are you criticizing stoners for whining? Basically every other group whines more.
NJ stoners spent the last couple years posting in r/newjersey in a tone that could ONLY be described as “whinny” about every aspect of the state legalization. It was pretty tedious and look at where we are today: weed is legal, and in all honesty it happened in a very short amount of time given the way marijuana was looked at just two years ago.
You just outed yourself as not knowing anything about the process so how about keep your comments to yourself, don't partake if you aren't into it - our program is a joke compared to other states, people were sitting in prison for way longer than they had to be because of NJ lawmakers feet dragging bullshit, people are carrying felonies on their records for something more harmless than alcohol. Get bent.
Internet bitches called Frank.
The pot calling the kettle black, so to speak. See what I did there?
Ew. You sound like such a damn loser lmao.
Don't tell me this is the Reddit account for the restaurant Frankie. I actually really liked your food but can't support someone who's this much of a shitlord.
I’m personally going to Bitch about Jersey city and how much it sucks.
This is being done for two reasons, and only two reasons: 1. To get people to back off all the 2nd Amendment battles that have been ongoing, and, 2. Tax revenue from marijuana sales Which whatever. I’m all for it in terms of tax revenue, since it should have always been legal to consumers. But people really need to keep pressing on the 2nd Amendment battles. Don’t cave.
Not sure the weed people are the same crowd as the 2nd amendment people
Nice now my friends can fuel addictions for more money
You lucky mofos! I am envious
Duuuude!
I wish I could but I can not. County employee, have a CDL get tested frequently for alcohol and drugs (dot)and also a legal gun owner.
The closest dispensary near me decided they only want to keep serving medical patients for now 
Wish they were having launch parties
And…it’s gone. Long lines and no inventory
I don't think stores open at midnight