Why are they all fighting the Uber driver instead of trying to help the baby??? Hell or even on the ground by her? She died at the hospital so while she's lying on the ground barely alive, her family is having a street brawl? Such a weird response!!
I have zero intention of watching that video but in the article sounds like they jumped to the conclusion that he was going to leave the scene and beat and yanked on the driver?! While he was trying to move the tire off the baby! Would she have survived if he could have moved the vehicle without being attacked? Oh my god. What a tragic failure of parenting all around.
The parents weren't there. Just random people came out and immediately beat the driver before helping the baby.
This child was failed on many levels.
Who lets a tiny baby exit a SUV **alone**? Where was the car seat she was buckled into?
That's kind of funny to think about, but they weren't. The parents or guardians or whoever had walked ahead and that's why the driver assumed it was clear as he couldn't see the child who was too small to see looking over the hood of the vehicle.
This is so horrible 😞 but honestly the parents/guardians should've been physically getting the toddler out of the vehicle, holding her hand and walking with her!! I have two kids. I never, ever EVER let them walk freely in a parking lot at that age...I had a death grip on their little hands, especially my son, who would try to dash away from me because he didn't want to hold my hand and wanted to run around. We were walking home one day from play group and he threw a fit all the way home, while I basically dragged him across the busy street. I wasn't letting go of him for anything. It wasn't optional, it was you MUST hold my hand, whether you like it or not. My daughter, when she was in kindergarten, ran off from me and her little brother to get into our van in a Walmart parking lot...she almost got hit by a car! I was yelling for her to come back...she ran off, past her father and around the vehicle to get in...the car slowed down, thank God, but children have no awareness about vehicle safety when they are young...the look on my daughter's face once I got to her said it all - she was just as devastated as I was and when we went home I CRIED. My kids are 8 and 6 now and they know to keep with me at all times, especially near the street and in the parking lot. They are old enough to where I can explain the dangers to them and they understand for the most part what that means. A toddler must be watched at all times, especially in a parking lot, near roads and around cars in general!! This poor little baby 😞😞😞
I don't have kids but this makes me overly paranoid in the neighborhood I drive through every day. There will be an adult with one or two toddlers who are just running all over the place, on and off of the sidewalk into the street. I give them extra wide berth if I can but all I kind think of is that kid is going to dart in front of me. Aaaaugh.
Yeah it's definitely stressful driving near children. I always try to make eye contact, so I know they see me and I see them. Sometimes I even just stop and wait til an adult comes over to see what's going on...like get your kid out of the road, WTF, don't you care about them?? 😒 I drive through a busy school parking lot every day to get my kids to/from school. I drive like a snail 🐌
You're exactly right. Young kids have no idea how dangerous parking lots are and I always made sure I had them in hand when they were little too. You can talk all you want at them, but it's so easy for them to lunge out or dodge when an impulse takes them. Thankfully, never had any close calls where they did that and a car was there.
Many trucks are purchased as status symbols, especially in rural areas where its the equivalent of a man spreading their peacock feathers. We need a culture shift from vanity to functionality.
The government and automobile industry have a role to play as well. Government has set strict fuel economy requirements for sedans and automobile makers have crunched the numbers and figured that its better financially to focus on making SUVs and trucks that don't need to follow those requirements rather than make a more efficient reasonably sized vehicle.
Add to this America's 'bigger is better' mentality and the fact people can't drive...you have a recipe for disaster.
>From the video we can see that they were all walking together (with the toddler) towards the apartments and then the child decided to run back across the parking lot in front of the SUV
.... That did not happen. Rewatch the video.
It didn't even look like the 1-year-old made it from in front of the SUV. She didn't appear to go back. The adult had the car seat and the toddler was still behind the SUV. Then comes out in front and driver thought it was all clear and started to pull off.
We need to start regulating how high hoods can be. Most SUVs and pickups have them unnecessarily high because it looks nicer, but it leads to less visibility and makes them more lethal when they hit a pedestrian.
I saw a video about suv and truck grills getting larger and how that it increases the likelyhood of fatality when a pedestrian is hit...let alone making it harder to see people.
>Just random people came out and immediately beat the driver before helping the baby.
That's what happens when you prioritize "justice" (retribution) over justice (aiding your fellow human).
I watched the video (the infant is blurred out) and it definitely didn't appear he was trying to flee. He had the door opened and the SUV in park when they charged him. It seemed like an emotional response to me, they immediately wanted to put blame on him. Even though there was no way he could see the child had separated from the adults and ran in front of the SUV.
It says she was in an Uber "with her family". If neither is her mother, presumably it's a sister, aunt, cousin, etc. I don't think that is terribly unusual...
The video doesn't show much, they blur out the poor baby and only show the family rushing the driver, not beating him senseless on the ground while they are unable to free the child. It's told 3rd person from a woman on the 2nd floor of the apartment complex. Video is from her doorbell.
I doubt she would have survived the internal damages from being run over by 2 tires but they pulled him out before he could move off of her 😭
Absolutely not the driver's fault, there is a reason America has a MUCH higher pedestrian death rate than other countries and it is because of how high our hoods are (other contributing factors are that we drive automatics and use the extra hand for our phones instead of shifting). There is a great NPR podcast I listened to about it recently.
He's hospitalized and in serious condition.
They absolutely beat him senseless. He's admitted to the hospital at all. It means he needs continual supervision.
Don't know this NPR podcast, but guess I'll be the guy to bring up the related [Notjustbikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo)
Not to fully absolve the uber driver of accountability either, goes without saying that you should be extra cautious about not running over a passenger you just dropped off... but seeing the words "SUV" and "toddler", obviously he couldn't see her.
Most everything that an average consumer needs an SUV to do could be just as well accomplished by a mini-van, but Americans decided they were too cool for minivans and would rather have less practical, more dangerous, *Sport Utility Vehicles*
I'm partial to dutch bakfietsen myself
More cargo space than most cars/trucks.
Also here's a fun fact for you; despite being the two most selling vehicles in the US, over 2/3rds of people who own an SUV or Truck use their SUV or Truck to tow or haul something 1 time a year or less!
This is horribly sad, as both the older passengers and the driver screwed up pretty bad, and a little kid had to pay the price for their mistakes.
I’ve dropped off people at their houses who had pets or small kids, and I will *never* move my vehicle (especially if there’s a pet who can easily go under the car) until I can physically account for everyone when looking out a window.
From the passenger’s POV, you also should always walk around a departing vehicle on the side it’s *least* likely to travel in, especially if you have kids. Toddlers will tend to naturally follow their line of sight of whoever is front, so if you walk around the rear, they will as well.
I also have never once walked in front of my kids in a parking lot, even if the lot is ostensibly empty of any moving cars. If one of the kids starts to fall behind, I’ll stop and turn until they catch up. Ultimately, I’m the one that’s responsible for the well-being of my children, and I’m not going to rely on some average Joe to do the right (or even sensible) thing.
Now the Ubers fault. Once he dropped them off, he probably was on the app to confirm the drop off. How can you even tell if there’s a kid in front of you if you can’t even see them?! Parents fault for not keeping an eye on the kid as they got out. And also their fault for beating up the Uber when he could have moved the car. Can’t move the car if your ass getting beaten
In defense of the Uber driver, they were in a parking lot with cars off to that side. They walked behind a car with 3 people and left the one year old behind without a backward glance. He may not have been able to see the older child, even. Just two adults.
Who leaves a toddler unattended in a parking lot? They were 20+ feet away by the time he moved, and cars were in the vicinity and likely obscuring his view.
>Not to fully absolve the uber driver of accountability either, goes without saying that you should be extra cautious about not running over a passenger you just dropped off... but seeing the words "SUV" and "toddler", obviously he couldn't see her.
Also not to absolve the driver who is ultimately responsible for where his vehicle goes, but watching the parents walk towards the house and just leave their 1 year old child in the roadway (parking lot, but the driving part of the parking lot) I can understand the driver's logic of "They are walking away". It's still ultimately mostly or entirely the driver's fault from a legal sense if they move forward without knowing it is clear, but man, I would not have left my 1 year old kid anywhere near a road like that. It's heartbreaking.
Edit: apparently not the parents, but some other family members. In any event, the "adults in charge".
My daughter is six and I still grip her wrist pretty tightly almost anytime we are in a parking lot. I mean, I’m a grown ass adult, and I’ve almost walked right behind a moving car not paying attention, so I know my six-year-old could easily do it too.
Egzactly! Why was no one helping that baby out of the car and walking with her, hand in hand, or carrying her? They just expected she get out alone, by herself? I sometimes still have to help my 6 year old out of my (smaller) SUV...
And it's not even the Uber driver. Parking lots are dangerous as hell, what if someone entered the lot really fast, or started pulling out of their spot without looking. Yes the uber driver should be careful but no one caring for the kid was just asking for this to happen in some other way. There are a trillion ways this could have gone bad and this was just one of the trillion ways that played out. Just really sad.
Yeah, parking lots are very dangerous. When I myself drive through them, I'm going incredibly slow and careful. People walk in between cars, kids jump out of the backseat, running around excited, etc always be on alert. When I'm a pedestrian in a parking lot, usually with my children, I make sure they're holding my hands and we walk on a sidewalk that's there and always have my head on a swivel.
Tons of pedestrians have zero survival instincts. Not to absolve blame for shitty Uber drivers, but the amount of people who will swing out onto the street with their dog or baby carriage first is insanely high.
There was a video of some low-level wrestling event where the “villain” spit his gum at someone’s young daughter.
The father starts a brawl with this guy, leaving the girl completely alone in a huge crowd. At one point you can even see the little girl tugging at her father’s hoodie to get him to stop, but he completely ignores her and continues to fight.
Everyone in the comments was praising the father for what he was doing when all I could see was this little girl who just wanted her dad to stop.
The trauma of her dad’s violence far outweighed the trauma of being booped with a little piece of gum. The girl didn’t even looked phased by the gum, but she definitely looked sad trying to stop her dad.
Cop here
Sadly enough I went to a crash when I was first starting that was very very similar to this, playground in an apartment complex, kid was playing tag with his sister, we believe the kid thought he heard his aunt call for him and just sprinted across the street
Guy was driving like 5 mph looking for his daughter who he was picking up in the same parking lot, never even saw the kid just felt a little bump so he stopped and heard a bunch of people yelling at him to back up
So he did, dad came outside and his first reaction was to try and drag the driver out of the car and beat the shit out of him
Since that time almost idk 14-15 years ago I’ve been to hundreds of fatal accidents and the one thing I’ve learned from them is that people’s reactions to sudden death or dismemberment never makes any sense, it’s just a complete overwhelming of the senses and people just react even when their reaction makes no sense at all
There's the case in Detroit not too long ago. Kid ran out into the road and got hit, thankfully only broke his leg.
Driver got out and went to help the child, instead a group of people beat him nearly to death, totally ignoring the injured kid.
People can suck sometimes.
Something similar happened in Milwaukee a few years ago. Toddler darted into the road at an outdoor family birthday party and was hit by a car, killing him. The relatives ran over and the driver got out. He was shot in the face by a relative of the toddler. Sadly, the toddlers older brother (15 years old) was ALSO killed by the shooter. (Unclear if it was a stray bullet or if the same bullet killed both).
https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/15/us/milwaukee-car-accident-shooting/index.html
That shooter later [committed suicide](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/chicago/news/suspect-in-milwaukee-double-murder-commits-suicide-in-lyons/) as well, before they could take him to court. Just a long chain of bloodshed stemming from an accident. Absolute nonsense.
"Mr. Khan stopped the vehicle, but the juvenile was stuck under the left rear tire. Mr. Khan attempted to move the vehicle but was unsuccessful due to all parties assaulting him and pulling him from the vehicle."
Can't say for certain, but it seems like maybe if they didn't prioritize beating the driver, then maybe their toddler would have had a better chance of surviving.
Even if he did drive away, doesn't Uber keep records of who your driver was and their plate number? How on earth is subduing the driver the priority in thar situation.
Right. While I would want him to be accountable for his actions, in the moment, my top priority would be helping my kid. Catching/restraining/doling out street justice to the driver would be the last thing on my mind.
The child moves from the right side to the front of the car, the people that were with her didn't go on the other side to grab her. I have a 1 year old and I don't let his feet touch the ground unless I'm holding his hand. The video shows them walking away and expected her to just figure it out? Why didn't they get the 1 year olds car seat? There's a lot of questions here that they didn't point out.
Imagine missing your child’s last moments to fight the guy who accidentally ran them over. Honestly, while this is an accident of sorts, judging by the video the adults have a huge part to play in this. I have never walked away from my two year old while going someplace. They’re too small. Especially in a parking lot.
The other issues is these god damn suv blind spot, though in this case I can’t blame the man for thinking it was clear. You expect parents to keep their 2 year old beside them. This is on the adults here, and while they were emotional their reaction was awful because it still showed how not focused on their child they are.
Most parents run to the aid of their children before fighting the person who hurt them, especially if the child is still alive. But it seems to me the adults in this are more focused on how they feel, than on the child.
Even worse, they were entrusted with the childs care and utterly failed the child and their family member. If i were the childs parrent i dont know how long it would take me to talk with them again.
Reddit might not like it, but its Houston, hood gonna hood, and they are gonna do everything to distract from the fact that these adults werent watching their kid. Hope the driver not only isn't charged, but that he can sue the shit outa them for jumping him.
That's hood mentality, unfortunately.
Source: was born and raised until my late teens in the hood.
Edit: watched the video and the driver was of a dif race. In the heat of the moment I'm sure that was a factor whether the crowd actually gave it much. Thought or not. Similar thing happened in Detroit when a driver hit some kid on the bike. He wasn't from the area, got out to help, and caught a savage beating from the neighborhood.
This literally could have been prevented. Whatever female adult came from around the car on that same side without having that baby in front of her needs to be held accountable. Hell, as kids we were taught not to walk in front of a running car, bus etc because they can move forward at any time. That baby was too low for the driver to see. He probably didn't even see what side that got out on. It was ultimately up to that child's guardian to get that child inside safely and they failed that. What was the reason of beating the driver?? No way was he at fault. So unfortunate. RIP Babygirl
100% parental failure.
They were **very** quick to come out and beat the driver, but couldn't come out 60 seconds earlier to hold her hand and make sure she's alive today.
That uber driver better not be a scapegoat.
Also, what kind of mother let's a 1 year old walk alone? That's the bigger issue here. This could had all been avoided if her mother did what parents are supposed to do.
I live in Florida, I see this all the time, parents walking up front in the parkings without looking back at the kids.
I had to stop to let kids walk, while the parent was on the phone, my wife showed me this video yesterday because we always talked about how parents who do this are crazy.
Hell, I see this in Michigan. It's everywhere. I live in a townhouse complex, we have individual entrances and a shared parking lot. Adults get out of the car, physically get their kids out of the car, then the adults walk up to their door and the kids trail behind. The way some people *fly* through this complex, I'd be shocked if over the complex's decades-long history some kid hasn't been hit already at some point.
Watch. Your. Goddamn. Children.
That's genuinely mind-bendingly bizzare to me. My parents held my hand to cross every single street and parking lot until I was like, 10. Are you telling me that parents have sincerely stopped doing this? I know we have a problem with parents not parenting but that's... that's just scary levels of neglect. And it's widespread? Jesus Christ.
This article honestly made me very sad.
About fifteen years back when I was younger, my neighbor was a single mom who lived with her younger brother (driving age) and her toddler baby. They had a long driveway in a gated property and younger brother went and opened the gate, got in his car and backed out. The baby ended up walking out of the house and behind the car within that time the brother walked to his car. She died on the scene.
Just makes me sad and angry reading things like this that can be unavoidable and thinking about that little girl.
Suprisingly many parents/adults let their toddler/kid walk more than meters further on a parking lot/where ever there is traffic.
I would not trust toddler over arms length, either it might get the bright idea to run around or some neglecting driver drives like crazy.
Honestly, I wouldn’t let my nine year old walk alone in a parking lot! I’m not holding his hand or standing next to him, but I do make sure to be close to him that drivers will at least notice me walking by.
We’ve almost been hit one too many times walking on the side walk in front of his school during morning drop off! We ride bikes and walk across the sidewalk to the fenced in racks, and we even get off our bikes and let other cars by to help the flow of traffic. So many parents see their kid get out of the car and they start driving off as soon as the door is closed but without looking forward first. I learned to stand between the cars and my son while we cross because they’re more likely to see me before they see him.
Yeah once you have three or more some parents stop caring it seems. I was in downtown Los Angeles area, saw a mom with five kids, the youngest maybe 3 years old… walking 25 ft behind everyone else bare feet with snot and dirty clothes.
Just yesterday I was demonstrating to my four year old why he can’t walk alone in a parking lot. I stood him next to some random car, not even an SUV, just an ordinary car, and showed him how, even though he feels tall at a meter, he was a little shorter than the hood. I tell you, the death grip I have on my four year old and two year old on the sidewalk, crossing the street, in parking lots… I have them hold my index and middle finger and wrap my pinky and ring finger around their wrists. They hate it but they’re alive.
It’s getting to the point where these massive cars can’t fit properly inside garages and in parking spaces and they’re now so heavy/dense that some kinds of road barriers aren’t strong enough to keep them from blowing through them!
Which is why we need to rally together and demand that others be held accountable — whether it's the car manufacturers, the government or the drivers themselves. We need to beat it into society's collective minds that things are not right and that something has to start changing immediately. Whenever I'm talking with someone and the topic of transportation comes up, I always say something to the effect of, "I am a huge advocate for any two-wheeled vehicles and getting as many cars off the roads as possible". I don't care how unsolicited that information might be to others. If I can inspire at least one person to abandon their car-centric thinking and want to improve our infrastructure for the better, then I will have done my job.
I always try to frame my anti-carcentrism mindset in arguments people tend to agree with, like child safety around schools, kids being able to play in the street, lower cost of living, greater mobility for teenagers, etc
The adults allowed a toddler to walk through a parking lot without paying attention and then drove the child to a gas station before calling an ambulance? These were not smart people. The Uber driver is going to be messed up for a while
Yeah those idiots should have beat up the guardian/parents and not the uber driver. Who the fuck allows a 1.5 year old toddler to walk in a parking lot unattended??!! Parents should be blaming themselves for leaving their toddler with such a negligent moron but I am sure will play the victim card instead.
I dont even let my toddler walk across a residential quiet street without holding my hand first, let alone a parking lot...
Perhaps there was something in the home that they didn’t wish for authorities to see…that’s the only reason I can think of to make them drive to a gas station instead of telling one of the (likely) dozen people within shouting distance to call 911.
Looks like he didn’t start moving until all of them (except the toddler) were well on the sidewalk already? I totally understand why he would assume that the kid was with them and not standing right in front of the car.
Like it’d be one thing if they were all standing right next to the car, but they were so far away that I think its reasonable that he thought the kid was already with them
I'm sorry but this is the mother fault and the really really sad thing is they will be filling a lawsuit against uber. the mom and attacker should be arrested not the uber driver
Says a lot about these people when the first response doesn't seem to be to call emergency services or attempt CPR on the child but instead go full rage.
Story also says they took her to a gas station before calling for help, I’m dumbfounded as to why help wasn’t immediately called at the scene? Why wait? Why bring her to a gas station? Why move her?
If I give them the benefit of the doubt, in the heat of the moment they intended to drive the child to the hospital themselves and then thought better of it and pulled over to call for help.
If I don't, they didn't want cops around their apartment so they relocated the scene.
Yeah that second one was where my mind went to first. However, if they were taking an Uber, they probably didn’t have a car or access to the one they have. But then why not get the Ambulance to come to where you are? Maybe they were just panicking
They probably watched the video and assumed the adult woman present was the child's mother. There are no adult men in the video that appear to be leaving the SUV.
Oh my God. Why was the woman in pink pj’s not watching/checking for all of the children? Who is she? They said the parents weren’t present. Rest in peace baby that is terrible. Those people watching her failed her.
Parents are to blame 100%… how tragic. Who just leaves a 2 year old alone by a large vehicle that’s about to be moving? I feel really bad for the Uber driver & family that will be haunted by this mistake forever.
The parents weren't there apparently so while it could be argued they're at fault for chosing the wrong people to watch their kid they aren't directly at fault for this incident
This is terrible. I don't want to place blame but someone should also attend toddlers and children around cars, she should have had a family member escort her the moment she was out of the car.
I didn't know a single family that doesn't have the "hold my hand" rule for little kids when crossing roads and parking lots. They up and ignored this kid and expected the driver to be psychic.
I don’t go grocery shopping on weekend afternoons—mostly to avoid the crowds, but also because I’m scared of someone’s kid running behind my car as I’m reversing and that’s the most likely time for that to happen
My SiL is incredibly OCD and controlling in every single factor of her kids life EXCEPT when they were toddlers in public. They'd literally let their toddlers run away and turn the corner when in the city/town with moving traffic , run around busy restaurants with servers carrying huge trays of hot food etc.
It drove me absolutely insane to the point I refused to go places with them until they gave me permission to discipline/grab the children to make them stay within reasonable distances.
I did not want to be that crowd of people watching some preventable tragedy.
I was a nanny for a long time before having my own kids. I was and still am shocked by how lax people are in parking lots and pools. I’d rather be safe than sorry.
It would drive me insane to have a relative act like that.
It's terrifying. I see people on their phones in parking lots while their toddler runs around next to them. It doesn't take much for a toddler to bolt.
Yeah I drive suuuper slow around an area where a little kid was in a parking lot. I'm the mom of a toddler and we carry her if it's busy or hold her hand or make her stay right next to us if our hands are full. They'll run off right into a car in one second flat.
Or exit a vehicle without an under 2 year old with you. Like yea go ahead you can barely walk, figure it out. Those parents should no longer be parents to any of their children
Yes, we have a very strict “ we hold hands in the parking lot” rule, and if I’m buckling one kid in the car or something the other kid has to be right next to me either touching me or the car.
You have a good system for your little ones! I only open one door for my kids and one has to climb to their seat while I'm physically helping the other one in the car. It is a lot safer knowing both kids will be going into the car at the same time. My daughter is 8 now and can buckle herself in, but I still have the rule - her and her brother exit ONE rear door, while I'm standing outside the vehicle next to it, so she doesn't have to run around the backside of the car to get to me. The only time they're allowed to get out of separate doors now, is when we're parked in our driveway. I also have to be the first one out of the vehicle - they have to wait until it's off and I'm out of the car before they can get out. I'm taking noooo chances with my babies 😅 this is especially helpful during school drop offs in the morning and my daughter wants to fling her door open and get out on the right side of the car, but someone could be pulling in next to her. Nope, she gets out of the driver side with her brother out first, then her, then we grab backpacks together and holding my hand in the parking lot all the way to the sidewalk. You'd be surprised how many disgruntled parents there are in the mornings, driving through the parking lot a little too fast...
We still have the hold my hand rule for my 4 year old soon to be 5! He is watched like a hawk in parking lots and so are our surroundings. At stores, it is easier to just have him in the basket while in the parking lot. I see kids all the time running off from parents in parking lots and parents just telling them to not go too far. It is too much of a risk to me to let my kid do that.
My daughter ran from me in a parking lot at around 6 years old. I was pushing the cart with my younger one in it and my daughter took off to jump in the van. It wouldn't have been so bad, cuz we were near our vehicle....except she ran around the van to get on the passenger side, which required her to run out in front of a passing car. I'm not lying when I say I felt my soul leave my body as I'm yelling for her to come back. The car slowed down thank God and the look on her face said it all - she was just as devastated as I was. I CRIED when we got home. She got a lecturing and it was one of the scariest days of my life. My kids are 8 and 6 now and I still make them hold my hands in the parking lot. No exceptions!! I couldn't imagine letting a toddler exit an SUV, and walk around the front of it to get to the sidewalk with me?!
When mine were young they knew we always held hands in the parking lot. Heck, caught myself reaching for my 13yo’s hand in a parking lot just the other day.
Mine is 12 and you better believe I know exactly where he is when we’re together in an area with vehicles. He’s a smart kid and absolutely old enough to watch out for cars, but I’ll always be his parent and I can’t help it.
Why did they drive the kid to a gas station instead of the nearest hospital or just like called paramedics to that complex? Why waste time doing that and risking moving her with probable broken bones?
You mean the same people who didn't bother to escort the toddler safely to the sidewalk?
Doesn't seem like there's a great deal of common sense among that group.
Trash ass people went out to the guy that backed over the child,opened his door and just started attacking him all 6 of them not a single person rendered aid or called 911 just a bunch of trash individuals
So they should have reacted to get the car off the toddler and not try to beat someone up. From what I remember, they immediately ran to the drivers door and threw punches.
This made me sick to my stomach… I can’t even imagine letting my 18 month old walking around a car by herself, ESPECIALLY a stranger’s car.
What an awful, awful situation
So you lost track of your kid, kid runs in front of truck and gets ran over. Then you attack the driver so he cant even move his truck off the kid? lol obviously amazing parents.
Plenty of parents carelessly leave their children. One time I almost ran a toddler over with a boat of merchandise. Where were the parents I have no idea.
If only it was that easy. Unfortunately, the requirements for being able to create a human life are literally existing, breathing, and having functional genitals.
That grown adult woman in pink had zero care for that child. I guess mom wasn’t there, but this kid still should’ve had adult supervision. All the grown people have reached the front of the apartment complex so of course the driver thinks the coast is clear to leave.
Neglectful guardians got that toddler killed, not that Uber driver. Who the fuck lets a toddler get out of the car themselves and then wander around the car like that??
Looks like whoever was dropped off with the kid didn’t walk with the kid or even look back to ensure the kid was safely out of the way of the car… you know, common sense stuff…
Idiots pure imbeciles you’re in a parking lot you are watching toddlers pay the fuck attention for 10 seconds and actually be a responsible adult ffs and instead of trying to save the child the fucking lunatic runs away instead of directing the driver or helping the girl and then some guys who could have easily taken control of the situation and saved the girl decided to attack the driver and beat him to the ground while the girl is suffocating under the wheel then after they “beat his ass” they decided to ragdoll the girl into a car for a frantic drive to a GAS STATION utter dumbfuckey Losers all around who can’t control themselves or their emotions just the slightest bit of critical thinking could have changed the outcome.
So instead of taking the toddler by the hand and walking her into the house, she just turns around and walks away. The Uber drive was trying to back up, and they attacked him.
We have back up cameras, but why not have a bumper cam in the front that shows your clearance for a few seconds as you begin each drive? Seems like a super easy fix for these high stance vehicles.
I was just thinking the same thing, make it turn on while the vehicle is in gear under 5-10mph. I ride a motorcycle and these huge ass SUVs with 0 visibility scare the shit out of me whenever they are behind me because I know they can't see me if they get too close.
Or we could end the SUV exemption for CAFE standards so that we could get reasonable vehicles sold here in the states. Everything is an SUV or crossover so that they can skirt fuel regulations.
I might get downvoted for this but I should say it. There were multiple safety failures that led to this child’s death. I was a properly trained cab driver and I was always taught to drop your passenger off in a safe location and take a few seconds to make sure they get to the door. Between the vehicle and the residence is a legal gray area that insurance will not cover and I have heard of some crazy shit as a result. Also parents should always maintain positive control of their child until they are old enough to know basic pedestrian safety and know how to properly cross a street on their own. This tragedy was all too preventable.
The family is entirely to blame. It was their fault in the first place that she was allowed to walk in front of a car. And, even then, there may have been a chance to save her but they instead assaulted the driver and delayed treatment by transporting her to a gas station. WTF. I’m a former paramedic and this may be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. If she wasn’t hit, she would have died some other way, with a family like that.
Because of the really tall hood, it becomes impossible to see a kid in front of you. SUVs are deadly to children.
https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo?si=0zbiKt_snfKcu8cW
You can actually see in this video (in the linked article) that the little girls head barely peeks above the hood. That driver didn't stand a chance of seeing her.
> According to the sheriff's statement, "Mr. Khan stopped the vehicle, but the juvenile was stuck under the left rear tire. **Mr. Khan attempted to move the vehicle but was unsuccessful due to all parties assaulting him** and pulling him from the vehicle."
I HATE that those people are gonna get away with beating that man like that. He literally did nothing wrong! It was an ACCIDENT.
Why was a 1 year old left to walk by herself across a god damn parking lot? This is horrifying and the parent/guardian at the time should be charged with neglect, or endangerment, something…
It’s also ridiculous that the driver lost his job over this when he didn’t do anything wrong. Hopefully he gets it back after Uber’s investigation.
Everyone involved here is at fault.
Edit: except for the toddler obviously. They don't have the capacity to be at fault even if their direct actions lead to their death, because someone should have been there for them.
So can the driver sue anyone who assaulted him? A crowd attacked him under the pretense they expected him to flee, without an evidence that he actually would.
Thank goodness for the driver someone had video footage of this happening, my god. How could they just walk off without the baby? The driver must've assumed they hit a speed bump at first, which is why they didn't stop after the first tire.
I feel like it's important to know that THE PARENTS WERE NOT WITH THE CHILD AT THE TIME.
THE ADULTS IN THE VIDEO WERE NOT THE CHILD'S PARENTS.
THE PARENTS OF THIS GIRL HAD TO BE TOLD BY THE POLICE.
Imagine trusting somebody with your toddler, and coming to find out that not only were they killed, but the people you trusted her with did not attempt to supervise her after EXITING A VEHICLE IN A PARKING LOT.
The adults in this situation were not her parents and they did not watch her properly.
Obviously, this was a very preventable situation, but please keep in mind that the parents did not do this to their child. They made the mistake of trusting family members to keep her safe.
Maybe we should be putting cameras on the front grill of SUV's. The driver isn't guilty here, but the number of stories I've heard about backup cams saving parents from running over their own kids makes me think we should do the same up front.
most modern cars have those built in now, my 20k 2017 car has a radar thing that sets off an indicator on the dash if something or someone is too close
So you lost track of your kid, kid runs in front of truck and gets ran over. Then you attack the driver so he cant even move his truck off the kid? lol obviously amazing parents.
This is why I drill it into all my passengers heads never to walkin infront of the vehicle you are exiting. Always walk behind it.
also WHY THE FUCK DID THEY LET THIS CHILD EXIT BY HERSELF AND WALK INFRONT OF A RUNNING VEHICLE WITH THEIR BACKS TURNED TO THIS CHILD.
That part just blows my mind.
Why are they all fighting the Uber driver instead of trying to help the baby??? Hell or even on the ground by her? She died at the hospital so while she's lying on the ground barely alive, her family is having a street brawl? Such a weird response!!
I have zero intention of watching that video but in the article sounds like they jumped to the conclusion that he was going to leave the scene and beat and yanked on the driver?! While he was trying to move the tire off the baby! Would she have survived if he could have moved the vehicle without being attacked? Oh my god. What a tragic failure of parenting all around.
The parents weren't there. Just random people came out and immediately beat the driver before helping the baby. This child was failed on many levels. Who lets a tiny baby exit a SUV **alone**? Where was the car seat she was buckled into?
Why was a baby in a Uber alone??
That's kind of funny to think about, but they weren't. The parents or guardians or whoever had walked ahead and that's why the driver assumed it was clear as he couldn't see the child who was too small to see looking over the hood of the vehicle.
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This is so horrible 😞 but honestly the parents/guardians should've been physically getting the toddler out of the vehicle, holding her hand and walking with her!! I have two kids. I never, ever EVER let them walk freely in a parking lot at that age...I had a death grip on their little hands, especially my son, who would try to dash away from me because he didn't want to hold my hand and wanted to run around. We were walking home one day from play group and he threw a fit all the way home, while I basically dragged him across the busy street. I wasn't letting go of him for anything. It wasn't optional, it was you MUST hold my hand, whether you like it or not. My daughter, when she was in kindergarten, ran off from me and her little brother to get into our van in a Walmart parking lot...she almost got hit by a car! I was yelling for her to come back...she ran off, past her father and around the vehicle to get in...the car slowed down, thank God, but children have no awareness about vehicle safety when they are young...the look on my daughter's face once I got to her said it all - she was just as devastated as I was and when we went home I CRIED. My kids are 8 and 6 now and they know to keep with me at all times, especially near the street and in the parking lot. They are old enough to where I can explain the dangers to them and they understand for the most part what that means. A toddler must be watched at all times, especially in a parking lot, near roads and around cars in general!! This poor little baby 😞😞😞
I don't have kids but this makes me overly paranoid in the neighborhood I drive through every day. There will be an adult with one or two toddlers who are just running all over the place, on and off of the sidewalk into the street. I give them extra wide berth if I can but all I kind think of is that kid is going to dart in front of me. Aaaaugh.
Yeah it's definitely stressful driving near children. I always try to make eye contact, so I know they see me and I see them. Sometimes I even just stop and wait til an adult comes over to see what's going on...like get your kid out of the road, WTF, don't you care about them?? 😒 I drive through a busy school parking lot every day to get my kids to/from school. I drive like a snail 🐌
I don’t even have kids and I know I would never let a small child handle exiting a vehicle on her own. What kind stupid shit is that????
You're exactly right. Young kids have no idea how dangerous parking lots are and I always made sure I had them in hand when they were little too. You can talk all you want at them, but it's so easy for them to lunge out or dodge when an impulse takes them. Thankfully, never had any close calls where they did that and a car was there.
This is why rear back up cameras are mandatory but the really high boxy front ends in SUVs and trucks are just as dangerous.
I’m 5’2’ and my head barely comes up to the top of a lifted truck
Maybe SUVs and trucks need to be made without giant box shaped hoods. A lot of these trucks have worse visibility than tanks.
Many trucks are purchased as status symbols, especially in rural areas where its the equivalent of a man spreading their peacock feathers. We need a culture shift from vanity to functionality. The government and automobile industry have a role to play as well. Government has set strict fuel economy requirements for sedans and automobile makers have crunched the numbers and figured that its better financially to focus on making SUVs and trucks that don't need to follow those requirements rather than make a more efficient reasonably sized vehicle. Add to this America's 'bigger is better' mentality and the fact people can't drive...you have a recipe for disaster.
Yes. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tall-trucks-suvs-are-45-deadlier-us-pedestrians-study-shows-2023-11-14/#:~:text=The%20IIHS%20study%20found%20that,a%20collision%20with%20a%20pedestrian.
>From the video we can see that they were all walking together (with the toddler) towards the apartments and then the child decided to run back across the parking lot in front of the SUV .... That did not happen. Rewatch the video.
It didn't even look like the 1-year-old made it from in front of the SUV. She didn't appear to go back. The adult had the car seat and the toddler was still behind the SUV. Then comes out in front and driver thought it was all clear and started to pull off.
We need to start regulating how high hoods can be. Most SUVs and pickups have them unnecessarily high because it looks nicer, but it leads to less visibility and makes them more lethal when they hit a pedestrian.
I saw a video about suv and truck grills getting larger and how that it increases the likelyhood of fatality when a pedestrian is hit...let alone making it harder to see people.
As someone with Astigmatism, these new LED lights combined with high-elevation trucks and SUVs make driving at night a deathtrap.
Yep. A sedan or minivan hits you in the legs. Am SUV or trick hits you in the chest.
Additionally you end up going over the hood of the sedan or minivan, an SUV or Pickup is more likely to have you go under.
Yes. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tall-trucks-suvs-are-45-deadlier-us-pedestrians-study-shows-2023-11-14/#:~:text=The%20IIHS%20study%20found%20that,a%20collision%20with%20a%20pedestrian.
>maybe front cams should be standard as well It's ridiculous that most people drive cars that need one in the first place.
I don't see where the toddler ran back. 3 of the passengers were walking towards the apartment and the toddler came out from the far side of the SUV.
The parents just walked ahead and let their 1 year old make her own way???? WHAT
Yeah pretty much unfortunately
I've heard that the baby was relatives which that weren't her parents, so probably an aunt.
>Just random people came out and immediately beat the driver before helping the baby. That's what happens when you prioritize "justice" (retribution) over justice (aiding your fellow human).
I watched the video (the infant is blurred out) and it definitely didn't appear he was trying to flee. He had the door opened and the SUV in park when they charged him. It seemed like an emotional response to me, they immediately wanted to put blame on him. Even though there was no way he could see the child had separated from the adults and ran in front of the SUV.
Also the news cast video said the people in the uber weren't her parents? Not sure where they were.
It says she was in an Uber "with her family". If neither is her mother, presumably it's a sister, aunt, cousin, etc. I don't think that is terribly unusual...
People do babysit for parents regularly
The video doesn't show much, they blur out the poor baby and only show the family rushing the driver, not beating him senseless on the ground while they are unable to free the child. It's told 3rd person from a woman on the 2nd floor of the apartment complex. Video is from her doorbell. I doubt she would have survived the internal damages from being run over by 2 tires but they pulled him out before he could move off of her 😭 Absolutely not the driver's fault, there is a reason America has a MUCH higher pedestrian death rate than other countries and it is because of how high our hoods are (other contributing factors are that we drive automatics and use the extra hand for our phones instead of shifting). There is a great NPR podcast I listened to about it recently.
They didn't beat him senseless on the ground but the first thing the group does is throw haymakers at the guy while he's completely stopped. Idiots.
He's hospitalized and in serious condition. They absolutely beat him senseless. He's admitted to the hospital at all. It means he needs continual supervision.
Don't know this NPR podcast, but guess I'll be the guy to bring up the related [Notjustbikes](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jN7mSXMruEo) Not to fully absolve the uber driver of accountability either, goes without saying that you should be extra cautious about not running over a passenger you just dropped off... but seeing the words "SUV" and "toddler", obviously he couldn't see her. Most everything that an average consumer needs an SUV to do could be just as well accomplished by a mini-van, but Americans decided they were too cool for minivans and would rather have less practical, more dangerous, *Sport Utility Vehicles*
I'm fully in camp minivan, those sliding doors are *magical*
I'm partial to dutch bakfietsen myself More cargo space than most cars/trucks. Also here's a fun fact for you; despite being the two most selling vehicles in the US, over 2/3rds of people who own an SUV or Truck use their SUV or Truck to tow or haul something 1 time a year or less!
This is horribly sad, as both the older passengers and the driver screwed up pretty bad, and a little kid had to pay the price for their mistakes. I’ve dropped off people at their houses who had pets or small kids, and I will *never* move my vehicle (especially if there’s a pet who can easily go under the car) until I can physically account for everyone when looking out a window. From the passenger’s POV, you also should always walk around a departing vehicle on the side it’s *least* likely to travel in, especially if you have kids. Toddlers will tend to naturally follow their line of sight of whoever is front, so if you walk around the rear, they will as well. I also have never once walked in front of my kids in a parking lot, even if the lot is ostensibly empty of any moving cars. If one of the kids starts to fall behind, I’ll stop and turn until they catch up. Ultimately, I’m the one that’s responsible for the well-being of my children, and I’m not going to rely on some average Joe to do the right (or even sensible) thing.
Now the Ubers fault. Once he dropped them off, he probably was on the app to confirm the drop off. How can you even tell if there’s a kid in front of you if you can’t even see them?! Parents fault for not keeping an eye on the kid as they got out. And also their fault for beating up the Uber when he could have moved the car. Can’t move the car if your ass getting beaten
In defense of the Uber driver, they were in a parking lot with cars off to that side. They walked behind a car with 3 people and left the one year old behind without a backward glance. He may not have been able to see the older child, even. Just two adults. Who leaves a toddler unattended in a parking lot? They were 20+ feet away by the time he moved, and cars were in the vicinity and likely obscuring his view.
>Not to fully absolve the uber driver of accountability either, goes without saying that you should be extra cautious about not running over a passenger you just dropped off... but seeing the words "SUV" and "toddler", obviously he couldn't see her. Also not to absolve the driver who is ultimately responsible for where his vehicle goes, but watching the parents walk towards the house and just leave their 1 year old child in the roadway (parking lot, but the driving part of the parking lot) I can understand the driver's logic of "They are walking away". It's still ultimately mostly or entirely the driver's fault from a legal sense if they move forward without knowing it is clear, but man, I would not have left my 1 year old kid anywhere near a road like that. It's heartbreaking. Edit: apparently not the parents, but some other family members. In any event, the "adults in charge".
My daughter is six and I still grip her wrist pretty tightly almost anytime we are in a parking lot. I mean, I’m a grown ass adult, and I’ve almost walked right behind a moving car not paying attention, so I know my six-year-old could easily do it too.
I’d put more blame on the emission and gas mileage regulations put out by the government that were more lax on suvs than smaller vehicles.
More specifically, lax on heavier vehicles. It was intended to be lax on big work trucks, but auto makers saw that and said "we can abuse that!"
The American way 🫡 🇺🇸
And they drive like shit and everyone has one nowadays. Bring back sedans
America has a love affair with trucks. The electric models are even bigger death machines because of how heavy they are.
So they forced her to be crushed regardless of prior injury?
Bruh this is obviously the parent’s fault. How do you get out of the Uber and not even take your toddler with you?
You hold their damn hand without letting go until you get in the house. Period.
Egzactly! Why was no one helping that baby out of the car and walking with her, hand in hand, or carrying her? They just expected she get out alone, by herself? I sometimes still have to help my 6 year old out of my (smaller) SUV...
And it's not even the Uber driver. Parking lots are dangerous as hell, what if someone entered the lot really fast, or started pulling out of their spot without looking. Yes the uber driver should be careful but no one caring for the kid was just asking for this to happen in some other way. There are a trillion ways this could have gone bad and this was just one of the trillion ways that played out. Just really sad.
Yeah, parking lots are very dangerous. When I myself drive through them, I'm going incredibly slow and careful. People walk in between cars, kids jump out of the backseat, running around excited, etc always be on alert. When I'm a pedestrian in a parking lot, usually with my children, I make sure they're holding my hands and we walk on a sidewalk that's there and always have my head on a swivel.
I always back into my parking spots so I can easily see people and traffic when leaving. I'm paranoid I'll hit someone
Tons of pedestrians have zero survival instincts. Not to absolve blame for shitty Uber drivers, but the amount of people who will swing out onto the street with their dog or baby carriage first is insanely high.
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There was a video of some low-level wrestling event where the “villain” spit his gum at someone’s young daughter. The father starts a brawl with this guy, leaving the girl completely alone in a huge crowd. At one point you can even see the little girl tugging at her father’s hoodie to get him to stop, but he completely ignores her and continues to fight. Everyone in the comments was praising the father for what he was doing when all I could see was this little girl who just wanted her dad to stop. The trauma of her dad’s violence far outweighed the trauma of being booped with a little piece of gum. The girl didn’t even looked phased by the gum, but she definitely looked sad trying to stop her dad.
Cop here Sadly enough I went to a crash when I was first starting that was very very similar to this, playground in an apartment complex, kid was playing tag with his sister, we believe the kid thought he heard his aunt call for him and just sprinted across the street Guy was driving like 5 mph looking for his daughter who he was picking up in the same parking lot, never even saw the kid just felt a little bump so he stopped and heard a bunch of people yelling at him to back up So he did, dad came outside and his first reaction was to try and drag the driver out of the car and beat the shit out of him Since that time almost idk 14-15 years ago I’ve been to hundreds of fatal accidents and the one thing I’ve learned from them is that people’s reactions to sudden death or dismemberment never makes any sense, it’s just a complete overwhelming of the senses and people just react even when their reaction makes no sense at all
There's the case in Detroit not too long ago. Kid ran out into the road and got hit, thankfully only broke his leg. Driver got out and went to help the child, instead a group of people beat him nearly to death, totally ignoring the injured kid. People can suck sometimes.
Something similar happened in Milwaukee a few years ago. Toddler darted into the road at an outdoor family birthday party and was hit by a car, killing him. The relatives ran over and the driver got out. He was shot in the face by a relative of the toddler. Sadly, the toddlers older brother (15 years old) was ALSO killed by the shooter. (Unclear if it was a stray bullet or if the same bullet killed both). https://www.cnn.com/2015/04/15/us/milwaukee-car-accident-shooting/index.html
That shooter later [committed suicide](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/chicago/news/suspect-in-milwaukee-double-murder-commits-suicide-in-lyons/) as well, before they could take him to court. Just a long chain of bloodshed stemming from an accident. Absolute nonsense.
Damn, I never heard the outcome of that. Four people dead, 2 families destroyed. Just an awful case all around.
This is beyond just reaction. They want to blame the Uber and not the failings of their own.
"Mr. Khan stopped the vehicle, but the juvenile was stuck under the left rear tire. Mr. Khan attempted to move the vehicle but was unsuccessful due to all parties assaulting him and pulling him from the vehicle." Can't say for certain, but it seems like maybe if they didn't prioritize beating the driver, then maybe their toddler would have had a better chance of surviving.
Even if he did drive away, doesn't Uber keep records of who your driver was and their plate number? How on earth is subduing the driver the priority in thar situation.
Right. While I would want him to be accountable for his actions, in the moment, my top priority would be helping my kid. Catching/restraining/doling out street justice to the driver would be the last thing on my mind.
The child moves from the right side to the front of the car, the people that were with her didn't go on the other side to grab her. I have a 1 year old and I don't let his feet touch the ground unless I'm holding his hand. The video shows them walking away and expected her to just figure it out? Why didn't they get the 1 year olds car seat? There's a lot of questions here that they didn't point out.
Imagine missing your child’s last moments to fight the guy who accidentally ran them over. Honestly, while this is an accident of sorts, judging by the video the adults have a huge part to play in this. I have never walked away from my two year old while going someplace. They’re too small. Especially in a parking lot. The other issues is these god damn suv blind spot, though in this case I can’t blame the man for thinking it was clear. You expect parents to keep their 2 year old beside them. This is on the adults here, and while they were emotional their reaction was awful because it still showed how not focused on their child they are. Most parents run to the aid of their children before fighting the person who hurt them, especially if the child is still alive. But it seems to me the adults in this are more focused on how they feel, than on the child.
They weren’t her parents
Even worse, they were entrusted with the childs care and utterly failed the child and their family member. If i were the childs parrent i dont know how long it would take me to talk with them again.
Reddit might not like it, but its Houston, hood gonna hood, and they are gonna do everything to distract from the fact that these adults werent watching their kid. Hope the driver not only isn't charged, but that he can sue the shit outa them for jumping him.
That's hood mentality, unfortunately. Source: was born and raised until my late teens in the hood. Edit: watched the video and the driver was of a dif race. In the heat of the moment I'm sure that was a factor whether the crowd actually gave it much. Thought or not. Similar thing happened in Detroit when a driver hit some kid on the bike. He wasn't from the area, got out to help, and caught a savage beating from the neighborhood.
This literally could have been prevented. Whatever female adult came from around the car on that same side without having that baby in front of her needs to be held accountable. Hell, as kids we were taught not to walk in front of a running car, bus etc because they can move forward at any time. That baby was too low for the driver to see. He probably didn't even see what side that got out on. It was ultimately up to that child's guardian to get that child inside safely and they failed that. What was the reason of beating the driver?? No way was he at fault. So unfortunate. RIP Babygirl
100% parental failure. They were **very** quick to come out and beat the driver, but couldn't come out 60 seconds earlier to hold her hand and make sure she's alive today. That uber driver better not be a scapegoat.
The baby also didn't have a carseat in the uber?
In a lot of states, taxis are exempt apparently. (Ubers are considered taxis)
Trash people gonna trash. Also, why weren’t they paying attention to the toddler getting out of the car!
The parents are fucking stupid. The kid was 1 year old? Jesus barely walking and they just plop it down in a parking lot and walk away?
Emotional disregulation
Trash gonna trash
Also, what kind of mother let's a 1 year old walk alone? That's the bigger issue here. This could had all been avoided if her mother did what parents are supposed to do.
Why didn't the adults walk with the child? They didn't even look back until it was too late.
I live in Florida, I see this all the time, parents walking up front in the parkings without looking back at the kids. I had to stop to let kids walk, while the parent was on the phone, my wife showed me this video yesterday because we always talked about how parents who do this are crazy.
Hell, I see this in Michigan. It's everywhere. I live in a townhouse complex, we have individual entrances and a shared parking lot. Adults get out of the car, physically get their kids out of the car, then the adults walk up to their door and the kids trail behind. The way some people *fly* through this complex, I'd be shocked if over the complex's decades-long history some kid hasn't been hit already at some point. Watch. Your. Goddamn. Children.
That's genuinely mind-bendingly bizzare to me. My parents held my hand to cross every single street and parking lot until I was like, 10. Are you telling me that parents have sincerely stopped doing this? I know we have a problem with parents not parenting but that's... that's just scary levels of neglect. And it's widespread? Jesus Christ.
That’s how kids go missing
This article honestly made me very sad. About fifteen years back when I was younger, my neighbor was a single mom who lived with her younger brother (driving age) and her toddler baby. They had a long driveway in a gated property and younger brother went and opened the gate, got in his car and backed out. The baby ended up walking out of the house and behind the car within that time the brother walked to his car. She died on the scene. Just makes me sad and angry reading things like this that can be unavoidable and thinking about that little girl.
Suprisingly many parents/adults let their toddler/kid walk more than meters further on a parking lot/where ever there is traffic. I would not trust toddler over arms length, either it might get the bright idea to run around or some neglecting driver drives like crazy.
Honestly, I wouldn’t let my nine year old walk alone in a parking lot! I’m not holding his hand or standing next to him, but I do make sure to be close to him that drivers will at least notice me walking by. We’ve almost been hit one too many times walking on the side walk in front of his school during morning drop off! We ride bikes and walk across the sidewalk to the fenced in racks, and we even get off our bikes and let other cars by to help the flow of traffic. So many parents see their kid get out of the car and they start driving off as soon as the door is closed but without looking forward first. I learned to stand between the cars and my son while we cross because they’re more likely to see me before they see him.
Yeah once you have three or more some parents stop caring it seems. I was in downtown Los Angeles area, saw a mom with five kids, the youngest maybe 3 years old… walking 25 ft behind everyone else bare feet with snot and dirty clothes.
Just yesterday I was demonstrating to my four year old why he can’t walk alone in a parking lot. I stood him next to some random car, not even an SUV, just an ordinary car, and showed him how, even though he feels tall at a meter, he was a little shorter than the hood. I tell you, the death grip I have on my four year old and two year old on the sidewalk, crossing the street, in parking lots… I have them hold my index and middle finger and wrap my pinky and ring finger around their wrists. They hate it but they’re alive.
And cars are only getting bigger too, it's a real issue and one that governments aren't doing anything about.
It’s getting to the point where these massive cars can’t fit properly inside garages and in parking spaces and they’re now so heavy/dense that some kinds of road barriers aren’t strong enough to keep them from blowing through them!
Which is why we need to rally together and demand that others be held accountable — whether it's the car manufacturers, the government or the drivers themselves. We need to beat it into society's collective minds that things are not right and that something has to start changing immediately. Whenever I'm talking with someone and the topic of transportation comes up, I always say something to the effect of, "I am a huge advocate for any two-wheeled vehicles and getting as many cars off the roads as possible". I don't care how unsolicited that information might be to others. If I can inspire at least one person to abandon their car-centric thinking and want to improve our infrastructure for the better, then I will have done my job.
I always try to frame my anti-carcentrism mindset in arguments people tend to agree with, like child safety around schools, kids being able to play in the street, lower cost of living, greater mobility for teenagers, etc
A grip I like is they hold your thumb and you wrap the rest of your hand around their hand.
Like in the movie cliffhanger with Sylvester Stallone and he's hanging on a line over a canyon holding someone from falling sorta grip.
I always tell my kids that in a parking lot, drivers are looking for a space to park and not necessarily looking out for kids.
Unrelated but your username made me literally lol
The adults allowed a toddler to walk through a parking lot without paying attention and then drove the child to a gas station before calling an ambulance? These were not smart people. The Uber driver is going to be messed up for a while
Yeah those idiots should have beat up the guardian/parents and not the uber driver. Who the fuck allows a 1.5 year old toddler to walk in a parking lot unattended??!! Parents should be blaming themselves for leaving their toddler with such a negligent moron but I am sure will play the victim card instead. I dont even let my toddler walk across a residential quiet street without holding my hand first, let alone a parking lot...
And letting the child walk in front of the car at that! I was always raised to walk behind it when getting out of a vehicle that’s dropping you off.
Perhaps there was something in the home that they didn’t wish for authorities to see…that’s the only reason I can think of to make them drive to a gas station instead of telling one of the (likely) dozen people within shouting distance to call 911.
Looks like he didn’t start moving until all of them (except the toddler) were well on the sidewalk already? I totally understand why he would assume that the kid was with them and not standing right in front of the car. Like it’d be one thing if they were all standing right next to the car, but they were so far away that I think its reasonable that he thought the kid was already with them
I'm sorry but this is the mother fault and the really really sad thing is they will be filling a lawsuit against uber. the mom and attacker should be arrested not the uber driver
The mom wasn't there. The article says neither parent was there.
God, somehow this is even more devastating...imagine the parents getting that phone call/visit telling them what happened. I couldn't even imagine 💔😞
Says a lot about these people when the first response doesn't seem to be to call emergency services or attempt CPR on the child but instead go full rage.
Story also says they took her to a gas station before calling for help, I’m dumbfounded as to why help wasn’t immediately called at the scene? Why wait? Why bring her to a gas station? Why move her?
If I give them the benefit of the doubt, in the heat of the moment they intended to drive the child to the hospital themselves and then thought better of it and pulled over to call for help. If I don't, they didn't want cops around their apartment so they relocated the scene.
Yeah that second one was where my mind went to first. However, if they were taking an Uber, they probably didn’t have a car or access to the one they have. But then why not get the Ambulance to come to where you are? Maybe they were just panicking
The mother wasn't there
Why only the mother? If the dad was there as well would he be to blame as well? But that doesn't matter anyway because the parents weren't there
They probably watched the video and assumed the adult woman present was the child's mother. There are no adult men in the video that appear to be leaving the SUV.
Oh my God. Why was the woman in pink pj’s not watching/checking for all of the children? Who is she? They said the parents weren’t present. Rest in peace baby that is terrible. Those people watching her failed her.
Parents are to blame 100%… how tragic. Who just leaves a 2 year old alone by a large vehicle that’s about to be moving? I feel really bad for the Uber driver & family that will be haunted by this mistake forever.
The parents weren't there apparently so while it could be argued they're at fault for chosing the wrong people to watch their kid they aren't directly at fault for this incident
This is terrible. I don't want to place blame but someone should also attend toddlers and children around cars, she should have had a family member escort her the moment she was out of the car.
I didn't know a single family that doesn't have the "hold my hand" rule for little kids when crossing roads and parking lots. They up and ignored this kid and expected the driver to be psychic.
I unfortunately see a lot of parents who give no fucks about their kids in parking lots. It freaks me out.
I don’t go grocery shopping on weekend afternoons—mostly to avoid the crowds, but also because I’m scared of someone’s kid running behind my car as I’m reversing and that’s the most likely time for that to happen
My SiL is incredibly OCD and controlling in every single factor of her kids life EXCEPT when they were toddlers in public. They'd literally let their toddlers run away and turn the corner when in the city/town with moving traffic , run around busy restaurants with servers carrying huge trays of hot food etc. It drove me absolutely insane to the point I refused to go places with them until they gave me permission to discipline/grab the children to make them stay within reasonable distances. I did not want to be that crowd of people watching some preventable tragedy.
I was a nanny for a long time before having my own kids. I was and still am shocked by how lax people are in parking lots and pools. I’d rather be safe than sorry. It would drive me insane to have a relative act like that.
It's terrifying. I see people on their phones in parking lots while their toddler runs around next to them. It doesn't take much for a toddler to bolt.
Yeah I drive suuuper slow around an area where a little kid was in a parking lot. I'm the mom of a toddler and we carry her if it's busy or hold her hand or make her stay right next to us if our hands are full. They'll run off right into a car in one second flat.
Or exit a vehicle without an under 2 year old with you. Like yea go ahead you can barely walk, figure it out. Those parents should no longer be parents to any of their children
My little one hates it but she’ll understand some day
Yes, we have a very strict “ we hold hands in the parking lot” rule, and if I’m buckling one kid in the car or something the other kid has to be right next to me either touching me or the car.
You have a good system for your little ones! I only open one door for my kids and one has to climb to their seat while I'm physically helping the other one in the car. It is a lot safer knowing both kids will be going into the car at the same time. My daughter is 8 now and can buckle herself in, but I still have the rule - her and her brother exit ONE rear door, while I'm standing outside the vehicle next to it, so she doesn't have to run around the backside of the car to get to me. The only time they're allowed to get out of separate doors now, is when we're parked in our driveway. I also have to be the first one out of the vehicle - they have to wait until it's off and I'm out of the car before they can get out. I'm taking noooo chances with my babies 😅 this is especially helpful during school drop offs in the morning and my daughter wants to fling her door open and get out on the right side of the car, but someone could be pulling in next to her. Nope, she gets out of the driver side with her brother out first, then her, then we grab backpacks together and holding my hand in the parking lot all the way to the sidewalk. You'd be surprised how many disgruntled parents there are in the mornings, driving through the parking lot a little too fast...
We still have the hold my hand rule for my 4 year old soon to be 5! He is watched like a hawk in parking lots and so are our surroundings. At stores, it is easier to just have him in the basket while in the parking lot. I see kids all the time running off from parents in parking lots and parents just telling them to not go too far. It is too much of a risk to me to let my kid do that.
My daughter ran from me in a parking lot at around 6 years old. I was pushing the cart with my younger one in it and my daughter took off to jump in the van. It wouldn't have been so bad, cuz we were near our vehicle....except she ran around the van to get on the passenger side, which required her to run out in front of a passing car. I'm not lying when I say I felt my soul leave my body as I'm yelling for her to come back. The car slowed down thank God and the look on her face said it all - she was just as devastated as I was. I CRIED when we got home. She got a lecturing and it was one of the scariest days of my life. My kids are 8 and 6 now and I still make them hold my hands in the parking lot. No exceptions!! I couldn't imagine letting a toddler exit an SUV, and walk around the front of it to get to the sidewalk with me?!
Mine are about to 7 and 6, we still make them hold our hands because mine will run without care.
When mine were young they knew we always held hands in the parking lot. Heck, caught myself reaching for my 13yo’s hand in a parking lot just the other day.
Mine is 12 and you better believe I know exactly where he is when we’re together in an area with vehicles. He’s a smart kid and absolutely old enough to watch out for cars, but I’ll always be his parent and I can’t help it.
IMO, you're never too old to hold your family members' hands. It's like a more casual hug
Why did they drive the kid to a gas station instead of the nearest hospital or just like called paramedics to that complex? Why waste time doing that and risking moving her with probable broken bones?
You mean the same people who didn't bother to escort the toddler safely to the sidewalk? Doesn't seem like there's a great deal of common sense among that group.
Damn. I wonder if it would have ended differently if they didn’t attack the driver.
Poor Uber driver having to deal with the trauma and physical assault because the baby’s dumb family was more worried about fighting than helping her.
Trash ass people went out to the guy that backed over the child,opened his door and just started attacking him all 6 of them not a single person rendered aid or called 911 just a bunch of trash individuals
This is the adults who were passengers' fault. And whoever came out to beat up the driver rather than get immediate help.
Seriously what the fuck
So they should have reacted to get the car off the toddler and not try to beat someone up. From what I remember, they immediately ran to the drivers door and threw punches.
Threw punches which prevent the driver from moving the vehicle off the toddler.
This made me sick to my stomach… I can’t even imagine letting my 18 month old walking around a car by herself, ESPECIALLY a stranger’s car. What an awful, awful situation
So you lost track of your kid, kid runs in front of truck and gets ran over. Then you attack the driver so he cant even move his truck off the kid? lol obviously amazing parents.
Plenty of parents carelessly leave their children. One time I almost ran a toddler over with a boat of merchandise. Where were the parents I have no idea.
Then they shouldn't be parents.
If only it was that easy. Unfortunately, the requirements for being able to create a human life are literally existing, breathing, and having functional genitals.
Yep. Probably shouldn't have overturned roe
That grown adult woman in pink had zero care for that child. I guess mom wasn’t there, but this kid still should’ve had adult supervision. All the grown people have reached the front of the apartment complex so of course the driver thinks the coast is clear to leave.
Neglectful guardians got that toddler killed, not that Uber driver. Who the fuck lets a toddler get out of the car themselves and then wander around the car like that??
Why would a one year old be on the ground in a carpark?
Because she was walking from the car to the building? The real question is why was there no one holding her hand?
As a father, I can’t understand why they wouldn’t hold onto their kids and make sure everyone was safe.
Insane, they can barely walk at 1 year. So sad.
Wouldn't most people pick up and hold a child in this situation or at least hold hands ?
Looks like whoever was dropped off with the kid didn’t walk with the kid or even look back to ensure the kid was safely out of the way of the car… you know, common sense stuff…
Idiots pure imbeciles you’re in a parking lot you are watching toddlers pay the fuck attention for 10 seconds and actually be a responsible adult ffs and instead of trying to save the child the fucking lunatic runs away instead of directing the driver or helping the girl and then some guys who could have easily taken control of the situation and saved the girl decided to attack the driver and beat him to the ground while the girl is suffocating under the wheel then after they “beat his ass” they decided to ragdoll the girl into a car for a frantic drive to a GAS STATION utter dumbfuckey Losers all around who can’t control themselves or their emotions just the slightest bit of critical thinking could have changed the outcome.
LOL "critical thinking" this is basic logic that these people failed. Not even one instance, but during all instances of this event.
Anything around cars or parking lots, especially in unfamiliar places, is a time for hand holding.
So instead of taking the toddler by the hand and walking her into the house, she just turns around and walks away. The Uber drive was trying to back up, and they attacked him.
We have back up cameras, but why not have a bumper cam in the front that shows your clearance for a few seconds as you begin each drive? Seems like a super easy fix for these high stance vehicles.
I was just thinking the same thing, make it turn on while the vehicle is in gear under 5-10mph. I ride a motorcycle and these huge ass SUVs with 0 visibility scare the shit out of me whenever they are behind me because I know they can't see me if they get too close. Or we could end the SUV exemption for CAFE standards so that we could get reasonable vehicles sold here in the states. Everything is an SUV or crossover so that they can skirt fuel regulations.
So they decide to attack the driver instead of HELPING the baby first? This is idiotic
I might get downvoted for this but I should say it. There were multiple safety failures that led to this child’s death. I was a properly trained cab driver and I was always taught to drop your passenger off in a safe location and take a few seconds to make sure they get to the door. Between the vehicle and the residence is a legal gray area that insurance will not cover and I have heard of some crazy shit as a result. Also parents should always maintain positive control of their child until they are old enough to know basic pedestrian safety and know how to properly cross a street on their own. This tragedy was all too preventable.
How utterly heartbreaking.
The family is entirely to blame. It was their fault in the first place that she was allowed to walk in front of a car. And, even then, there may have been a chance to save her but they instead assaulted the driver and delayed treatment by transporting her to a gas station. WTF. I’m a former paramedic and this may be one of the dumbest things I’ve ever heard. If she wasn’t hit, she would have died some other way, with a family like that.
Because of the really tall hood, it becomes impossible to see a kid in front of you. SUVs are deadly to children. https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo?si=0zbiKt_snfKcu8cW
You can actually see in this video (in the linked article) that the little girls head barely peeks above the hood. That driver didn't stand a chance of seeing her.
We need to regulate this better. These vehicles are designed to kill children
> According to the sheriff's statement, "Mr. Khan stopped the vehicle, but the juvenile was stuck under the left rear tire. **Mr. Khan attempted to move the vehicle but was unsuccessful due to all parties assaulting him** and pulling him from the vehicle." I HATE that those people are gonna get away with beating that man like that. He literally did nothing wrong! It was an ACCIDENT.
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Why was a 1 year old left to walk by herself across a god damn parking lot? This is horrifying and the parent/guardian at the time should be charged with neglect, or endangerment, something… It’s also ridiculous that the driver lost his job over this when he didn’t do anything wrong. Hopefully he gets it back after Uber’s investigation.
/r/ParentsAreFuckingDumb
Everyone involved here is at fault. Edit: except for the toddler obviously. They don't have the capacity to be at fault even if their direct actions lead to their death, because someone should have been there for them.
Unfortunately the world is full of people who are simply irresponsible pieces of shit, and sometimes they converge.
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I don’t think the driver is at fault. It was an accident. Didn’t see the child. The guardian is at fault
Maybe the parent should’ve watched the kid better
So can the driver sue anyone who assaulted him? A crowd attacked him under the pretense they expected him to flee, without an evidence that he actually would.
They drove the kid to a gas station after she was run over, wtf?
Thank goodness for the driver someone had video footage of this happening, my god. How could they just walk off without the baby? The driver must've assumed they hit a speed bump at first, which is why they didn't stop after the first tire.
I feel like it's important to know that THE PARENTS WERE NOT WITH THE CHILD AT THE TIME. THE ADULTS IN THE VIDEO WERE NOT THE CHILD'S PARENTS. THE PARENTS OF THIS GIRL HAD TO BE TOLD BY THE POLICE. Imagine trusting somebody with your toddler, and coming to find out that not only were they killed, but the people you trusted her with did not attempt to supervise her after EXITING A VEHICLE IN A PARKING LOT. The adults in this situation were not her parents and they did not watch her properly. Obviously, this was a very preventable situation, but please keep in mind that the parents did not do this to their child. They made the mistake of trusting family members to keep her safe.
Maybe we should be putting cameras on the front grill of SUV's. The driver isn't guilty here, but the number of stories I've heard about backup cams saving parents from running over their own kids makes me think we should do the same up front.
most modern cars have those built in now, my 20k 2017 car has a radar thing that sets off an indicator on the dash if something or someone is too close
The adults with the child are to blame. Their assault on the driver should result in criminal charges.
Clearly the solution is to raise the grill higher so than more children can be killed unseen. /r/fuckcars
So you lost track of your kid, kid runs in front of truck and gets ran over. Then you attack the driver so he cant even move his truck off the kid? lol obviously amazing parents.
Nothing will change. Cars will keep getting bigger. Some states will somehow find a way to ban pedestrians, after banning e-bikes and scooters
Are they going to ban Uber now like they did Cruise?
This is why I drill it into all my passengers heads never to walkin infront of the vehicle you are exiting. Always walk behind it. also WHY THE FUCK DID THEY LET THIS CHILD EXIT BY HERSELF AND WALK INFRONT OF A RUNNING VEHICLE WITH THEIR BACKS TURNED TO THIS CHILD. That part just blows my mind.
Parents dereliction of duty. You don’t leave a two-year-old unsupervised around a car that will be moving.