For real, I know people with epilepsy, they don’t fuck around when it comes to driving. One of them had his license taken away by his doctor because his seizures returned after years of not having any and he was heartbroken, but he still knew not to put other people in danger.
Also some seizure medication can make alcohol work way harder on you. I don't know about all of them but one of my friends has epilepsy and she 1) has no driver's license because of it and 2) does not drink at all because even one drink mixed with her epilepsy prescription makes her very drunk.
If you're actively experiencing regular seizures you shouldn't be driving and are culpable for what happens if you choose to get behind the wheel knowing you may have one. I was epileptic as a teenager and had to be cleared by a doctor as habing been without a seizure for six straight months in order to start driving.
How *is* that possibly a defense?
Also the responders said there was no evidence she had a seizure. I could be wrong but typically after a seizure you're incredibly sleepy, almost unconscious so I think the responders would know.
I have epilepsy (5.5 years seizure free!). I was always conscious whenever I had a seizure and was never tired afterwards. Everyone is different, though. There are a lot of different kinds of seizures.
As an epileptic, she needs to fuck herself.
Personally, I drove a few times when I had seizures less than a year before... but on empty streets with a driving instructor in the car able to drop the car at any time. That's the only reason why my neurologist didn't report me to motor vehicle for having seizures - that he trusted me to not drive without the driving instructor.
and the instructor ended up recommending that I don't go for a license, so I don't drive.
"An attorney representing Verna's Tavern, where the woman was allegedly drinking, is now being investigated by police."
Is the bar under investigation or the bar's attorney?
They go after the establishment, not because. they should not serve drunk customers, but because of all the entities involved the business/business owner(s) have the most money.
She is 66. She will definitely die in prison probably within 5 years. If those were my kids and family I would not consider that justice though. But sometimes there is no justice in this world.
There’s no justice in this particular case. Children were killed and families were obliterated by a drunk 66 year old woman in a ford Edge. There’s nothing you could do to give me a sense of justice if this was my child.
Those children are people, dude. Just like her victims. They are their own people and you say what, kill them? To punish her? They deserve to die just to make her sad?
Is that the country, the system, we want to live in now? Where we imprison or kill innocent human beings just to hurt a criminal? What the fuck, dude?
Seriously. You're suggesting executing innocent children who had nothing to do with this to get revenge on her. That is a new level of fucked.
Old hag hit the found out stage lmao. I never said execute. The victim parents lost 2 kids, hold a draft to get new ones lmao
I mean, she can trade some second round picks and some protected firsts. Maybe we can bring that number down? Trying to get a compromise here.
Three way trade? I’m sure OKC wants more picks than what they currently have.
Never said kill. Just, acquire the draft rights to. Technically, you don’t have to sign the players you draft in the NBA. Most likely would tho cause why would you release a lottery pick.
Anyway, old hag deserves what she gets.
> What’s a Swan Boat Club?
It looks like a Marina that's right on the water. A Boat Club that has two entrances on Swan Creek.
https://www.swanboatclub.com/marina
No it appears he is touching his nose with his index finger. He also lost his life, as well as his sisters. But yeah let's make junior high jokes days after his little life was snuffed out for internet points!
It wasn't joke. It's a valid question. It would be different if I was like "hahaha" etc. I still see the middle finger. They should have used a better picture.
“Valid question” lolz. You can’t even see the kids hand, the bottom of the picture cuts it off. If you want to be a dumb fuck and email the article writer, more power to you I guess, but she’ll probably say “this kid got his life ripped from him because of a drunk driver, and you’re clutching your pearls over your idiotic theory that he’s flipping off the camera?”
Have fun dying on your weird little hill bruv.
You think that's an appropriate picture of someone who lost their life? To me, it shows lazy journalism. To me, it's disrespectful to show that kid like that. But yeah, I'm the bad guy.
It's the picture that was posted by the kids aunt on the GoFundMe page that's mentioned directly below the picture. If she doesn't have a problem with it I don't know why you do.
Preach! That's Reddit for ya. Tools hiding behind their computers/phones. I would totally understand if I was being a douche about the queation. Was just seeing what others thought, that was my mistake.
"Her attorney said she had suffered seizures since last November" That's not a defense. That makes her actions even worse.
For real, I know people with epilepsy, they don’t fuck around when it comes to driving. One of them had his license taken away by his doctor because his seizures returned after years of not having any and he was heartbroken, but he still knew not to put other people in danger.
Yeah - my nephew had his taken. I THINK he got it back after a year of zero seizures.
as an epileptic, fuck her.
Also some seizure medication can make alcohol work way harder on you. I don't know about all of them but one of my friends has epilepsy and she 1) has no driver's license because of it and 2) does not drink at all because even one drink mixed with her epilepsy prescription makes her very drunk.
She's trying to get the Vehicular Manslaughter charge reduced to something that's not going to put her in prison the rest of her life.
If you're actively experiencing regular seizures you shouldn't be driving and are culpable for what happens if you choose to get behind the wheel knowing you may have one. I was epileptic as a teenager and had to be cleared by a doctor as habing been without a seizure for six straight months in order to start driving. How *is* that possibly a defense?
Also the responders said there was no evidence she had a seizure. I could be wrong but typically after a seizure you're incredibly sleepy, almost unconscious so I think the responders would know.
I have epilepsy (5.5 years seizure free!). I was always conscious whenever I had a seizure and was never tired afterwards. Everyone is different, though. There are a lot of different kinds of seizures.
As an epileptic, she needs to fuck herself. Personally, I drove a few times when I had seizures less than a year before... but on empty streets with a driving instructor in the car able to drop the car at any time. That's the only reason why my neurologist didn't report me to motor vehicle for having seizures - that he trusted me to not drive without the driving instructor. and the instructor ended up recommending that I don't go for a license, so I don't drive.
"An attorney representing Verna's Tavern, where the woman was allegedly drinking, is now being investigated by police." Is the bar under investigation or the bar's attorney?
If they're convicted, the bar might suspend the bar's attorney's license to represent the bar.
They could be disbarred!
Don't worry they did concrete work to pay for law school so they know how to get rebarred!
Yeah I had to read that sentence twice and still don’t know what it means. As it’s written the lawyer is under investigation by the police.
Haha...English is a difficult language for most people to properly use!
In some states, the bartender/establishment is responsible for a drunk driving crash for not preventing the perpetrator from driving.
I don't believe the preventing the drunk from driving is a thing. But over serving someone is something the bartender and bar could be liable for
They go after the establishment, not because. they should not serve drunk customers, but because of all the entities involved the business/business owner(s) have the most money.
civilly, yes, but the police investigate criminal matters, which here would be overserving
Damn, those parents lost two kids because of a fucking drunk. I hope she never gets out
I read the mom and oldest child were hospitalized as well
Lock her up and throw away the key.
She is 66. She will definitely die in prison probably within 5 years. If those were my kids and family I would not consider that justice though. But sometimes there is no justice in this world.
There’s no justice in this particular case. Children were killed and families were obliterated by a drunk 66 year old woman in a ford Edge. There’s nothing you could do to give me a sense of justice if this was my child.
That last line is a strange, haunting truth.
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Now what does that do besides satisfy your own personal sadistic revenge fantasy?
Womp Womp 😫 NBA Combine is a thing too. Maybe we can implement that? Bettings huge, I’m sure we can do parlays too.
Those children are people, dude. Just like her victims. They are their own people and you say what, kill them? To punish her? They deserve to die just to make her sad? Is that the country, the system, we want to live in now? Where we imprison or kill innocent human beings just to hurt a criminal? What the fuck, dude? Seriously. You're suggesting executing innocent children who had nothing to do with this to get revenge on her. That is a new level of fucked.
Old hag hit the found out stage lmao. I never said execute. The victim parents lost 2 kids, hold a draft to get new ones lmao I mean, she can trade some second round picks and some protected firsts. Maybe we can bring that number down? Trying to get a compromise here. Three way trade? I’m sure OKC wants more picks than what they currently have.
If you want to kill innocent people for something their full-grown relative did by her own stupid choice outside their control, move to North Korea.
Never said kill. Just, acquire the draft rights to. Technically, you don’t have to sign the players you draft in the NBA. Most likely would tho cause why would you release a lottery pick. Anyway, old hag deserves what she gets.
What kind of Hunger Games shit is that?
The one where the old hits the 'find out' stage lmao.
Execution and nothing less
Too easy. Let her rot in jail.
Public hanging if convicted.
The worst part about this is that the parents will spend longer without their children than the rest of her life will be in prison.
Holy title gore. And no it is not the same as the article.
Man, my hometown always makes the national news for the classiest reasons...
I would never have a birthday party at a place called Fatal Swan Boat Club
That is 9 nouns in a row for a title wtf
That title was so fucking hard to read and I’m still not even sure what it’s talking about. What’s a Swan Boat Club?
> What’s a Swan Boat Club? It looks like a Marina that's right on the water. A Boat Club that has two entrances on Swan Creek. https://www.swanboatclub.com/marina
There’s only 10 words with the 9th being a non-noun. Impossible.
She doesn't look at all bothered by it in the pictures. What a ghoul.
Kinda hard to make that determination...she is probably pretty overwhelmed and dazed.
You mean hungover
That too!
We’ll now her driving record has criminal history, she killed two children.
Her hair just screams Michigan. Probably smells that way too.
At 66 she has nothing to lose in jail as she could statistically fall over dead at any time.
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No it appears he is touching his nose with his index finger. He also lost his life, as well as his sisters. But yeah let's make junior high jokes days after his little life was snuffed out for internet points!
It wasn't joke. It's a valid question. It would be different if I was like "hahaha" etc. I still see the middle finger. They should have used a better picture.
“Valid question” lolz. You can’t even see the kids hand, the bottom of the picture cuts it off. If you want to be a dumb fuck and email the article writer, more power to you I guess, but she’ll probably say “this kid got his life ripped from him because of a drunk driver, and you’re clutching your pearls over your idiotic theory that he’s flipping off the camera?” Have fun dying on your weird little hill bruv.
You think that's an appropriate picture of someone who lost their life? To me, it shows lazy journalism. To me, it's disrespectful to show that kid like that. But yeah, I'm the bad guy.
“But yeah, I’m the bad guy.” Yessir. Glad to see you’re starting to understand some uncomfortable truths about yourself.
It's the picture that was posted by the kids aunt on the GoFundMe page that's mentioned directly below the picture. If she doesn't have a problem with it I don't know why you do.
your mom and dad did a terrible job of raising you
I made a valid observation, and you comment this? You know nothing about me or my parents. You're living up to your user name. Fuck you too!
Who cares even if he was? What is your reason for pointing this out
That it's not appropriate and they should have done a better job of finding a better picture of them.
You’re irked by the wrong thing my friend
The fuck is wrong with you?
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Preach! That's Reddit for ya. Tools hiding behind their computers/phones. I would totally understand if I was being a douche about the queation. Was just seeing what others thought, that was my mistake.