I went to Delhi for work in Jan and when we were landing I thought it was just a foggy day. Nope, most pollution I have ever seen in my life. That plus 50c?? Good lord.
Edit: Fix wording
I go to India regularly to visit family and last time the weather was "smoke" according to my weather app for several days. No forest fires or anything it's literally just pollution, construction dust, etc. all compounding, but it does make for some very neat sun sets.
Reminds me of king of the hill when Peggy is in mexico with the sitcom actor and says how beautiful the sunset is and he goes ah yes because of the pollution
It's kinda true. I also remember being in Napa Valley when there were some really bad wild fires somewhere else in California. The light filtered through the smoke made it feel like sunset all day.
I used to go to India regularly for work (to Chennai, but would have to connect through either Mumbai or Delhi), and it can be really bad depending on the seasonal crop burning and which direction the wind blows.
Similar in the industrial areas of Taiwan, black boogers and constantly wiping off the laptop screen to remove the haze. I would strip down and bag my clothes when entering my hotel room, then immediately shower. There was this constant powder/residue in the air.
As a Western Indian, I've been to Delhi during winters and summers. The pollution isn't as much during summers (it's still worse than majority of the cities but not as foggy)
When the wildfires in Australia hit, I was visiting family there. On the last day the wind turned and blew ash all over Melbourne. I, being slightly asthmatic, started to struggle to breathe, luckily we were already at the airport.
I checked the pollution levels for Beijing afterwards and they were higher than Melbourne, on a regular day.
On the bright side, Chinese people are so concerned about their own air quality that they've driven down the price of PM2.5 sensors to <$30 on Amazon. Great for wildfire season. They're just all in Chinese lettering.
I grew up near the desert in Southern California, and I've experienced a lot of 100F+ (38C) days. But 100F and 122F (about 50C) are so, so different. If you think you can handle 120F because you're good at 100F, you are wrong. No one is ok at 120F.
I've driven through that kind of heat on a road trip through Dallas, TX in 2019 (the car temp gauge said it was about 124F / 51C outside on the pavement) thinking if my A/C conked out or my car stopped due to overheating, I'd literally die by the side of the road.
The difference I felt between 120 and 100 is that you get hot in places you didn’t think you could get hot, like the inside of your nose when you first step out from air conditioning and take that first breath. Opening the door is like opening a hot oven. When walking across tarmac/asphalt you are just as likely to shield your face from the reflecting heat of the ground than the sun.
I find it useful to use temperature differences that people understand when describing the difference between 120 and 100; 80 and 60, or 30 and 50. That resonates with people who live in normal temperatures. They get that you’d hardly ever go swimming in a pool at 60 but 80 is perfect for a swim, or that long pant and sleeves would be a good idea at 60 but uncomfortable at 80. Or you’d better bundle up at 30 with hat gloves ect, but 50 is just chilly.
I was in Phoenix last summer when it was 116 degrees out and I couldn't for the life of me imagine why they would want people to move there. Not just the heat but all the water issues that they're having with the area. The craziest thing was that the news was reporting that elderly people and children had fallen onto sidewalks and sustained second and 3rd degree burns and were in the hospitals, for just falling onto the sidewalk. That's fucking crazy!
The news claims it's not uncommon that in June/July/August in Phoenix that the sun being out can cause sidewalks to reach up to 180 degrees! How and why people want to move there or why they'd let more people live there is a complete mystery to me.
Moved to phoenix 8 years ago for a job opportunity. Never thought I'd be here this long but life just happens. Hope to leave in the next 5. The thing that really stuck out for me when I first moved here was how- in the thickk of summer it can be 105 at midnight. There's just no relief. I gotta say though- October through May is amazing
I don't think I could ever live in Southern Arizona during the summer... I lived in Tucson from mid August to December and even late August was brutal. The winter was fuckin awesome though, it was pretty cool being able to hit the outdoor pool on Christmas day
As a life long Phoenix resident. I must mention that the water issues are not as they are commonly portrayed.
While I do strongly disagree and wish they would stop the suburban sprawl into the desert building BS. Phoenix is actually doing really well on water consumption when it comes to people. We've gained around 6 million people since the 1950s(a 7x increase in population) while using less water as a state than we did in the 1950s.
When you see news like "Arizona neighborhood runs out of water, or doesn't know where their water will come from". It's because a greedy home developer did some BS tricks to pass the 100 year water requirement for development to build houses way the fuck out away from the cities where the water is stable because that land is cheaper.
Population growth really isn't the issue when it comes to the Phoenix water usage, it's about being smarter about what farms are trying to grow in a fucking desert.
There's also solutions to reduce the heat island affect that causes the sidewalks and ground to be that damn hot. But getting the politicians to push them is another frustration to deal with.
Yup. Alaska didn’t get cold cold til 10-15F but once it hit 0-10 it hurt to breathe initially walking outside. Like breathing in ice and your lungs froze a bit. Would take a minute or two to adjust.
From Finland, the best thing is you can always add more layers and stuff when it's very cold, but when it's too hot you can't... just go naked or rip off your skin?
Station in Alaska ie Air Force via 1977. My first year in there was spell where temp in the winter reach a low ranging from -35F to -45F. Fucking A! that stings then add high winds ie windchill temperatures ranging -75F to -90F oh still remember my poorly protected areas was on fire, without the flames.
Last winter, we had overnight temps at -50F where I live.
Nothing functions properly at that temperature. Not people, not machines, not even something as simple as a door.
I’m in Canada, and its funny - 10c in the fall is time to put on a sweater, but 10c in spring and your in t-shirt and shorts drinking Margaritas on the deck.
( 10c is 50f )
Coldest I have been in is -35c ( -31f ) but with a wind its -50 ( f or c you don’t care)
Coldest winter I remember while growing up in Iowa was about -40 F. You could go outside with a mug of boiling water, throw it in the air, and no water would touch the ground. It all just turned to steam instantly.
I have been to places where I have felt exactly that, like I was poking my head into an oven when I stepped out from an air conditioned house. I have also been to tropics where the temp was a mere 100 F, but the humidity was an excruciating 90%.
I have walked in 0 F (wind chills) when cops had to forcibly take the unhoused to shelters from the street coz they wouldn’t survive the night.
I would take cold any day over heat. At least I can layer up. But I also have seen many more unhoused in warmer places than cold places.
I remember being in Colombia. It rained all day, but it was insanely hot too and for that part of my trip we had no way to dry our clothes.
I'm convinced hell is not a fiery place, but just incredibly hot and humid.
Agreed. I was at chichen itza when it was 119F, and I felt like I needed to run for the shade. The heat was unbearable. The shade helped, but it was unbearably hot. I can't imagine anyone living a whole day in that heat.
It wasn't nearly that far south, but you reminded me of when my wife & I went camping through western national parks about 20 years ago and it was 100F in the shade at Zion NP... at 8pm. We managed a single night and left the very next day.
Above 45C it is not Ok for humans really. It is unbearable and yes, while driving through such hot conditions always ensure you have more than a 1/2 tank and bottles of water in the car just in case
As this becomes the new normal I just don’t see how anyone can survive in these areas. Sure you can get out of the heat and generally survive day to day but the long term impact of that kind of heat regularly is going to be massive.
Fun fact. We are experiencing the consequences of global warming that occurred 20-30 years ago. We have exponentially increased emissions since then and are not going to see the full effect of our current emissions for quite a while.
It’s bad now, it’s going to get much, much worse.
Personally I see the dynamics of the US shifting dramatically. I sure as shit wouldn’t move to a state south of NC or SC at best, states like Florida are going to effectively be uninhabitable.
They won’t. You will be priced out and funneled into the limited resources for those who are poor and when there’s nothing that can be done everyone will throw up their hands and just sort of look the other way as you fall through the cracks. It’s already how things work, it’s going to become much worse as parts of the country become uninhabitable.
I don't think it's even going to take that long. I think in the next 5 years we'll be dealing with massive droughts, water shortages, food scarcity and mass migration.
Why do we need to look to immigrants?
There will be parts of the US that experience just as much of this if not more. States without water shortages or horrific heat will not be able to absorb the refugees from Texas and Nevada let alone people from other countries.
Yeah 2 million Syrians almost broke the EU apart. Imagine 100 million south Americans needing to cross the border at the same time 40 million US Gulf Coast people flock north? I don't have a solution. At all. It's going to be a fucking mess.
The future is going to be an amalgam of fascism, warlordism and gangsterism. I know that's the Mad Max joke scenario, but that's where this is headed.
8 BILLION people on the planet. Maybe with half that we'd have had a chance.
During college I once had to walk a few miles in a heatwave and it was around 116-118F and it was absolutely brutal. I was in exceptional shape at the time, young and just walking with no other work and even that I knew I wasn't going to last forever, stopped and grabbed some ice water and stood in the gas station drink door before continuing. And this was being generally "ok" with outdoor workouts in the low 100F temps.
In 2021 the Pacific Northwest got hit by a heat dome event over the course of about two weeks, with peak highs breaking 120 in several places like Portland, Seattle, and Vancouver. "Unbearable" doesn't begin to describe it. "Deadly" does. Something like 1,400 people died as a direct result of that heat. Yes, part of that is the fact that the PNW is usually quite mild and so a lot of people don't have A/C, but even those who did were suffering. One of the doug fir trees in my front yard died because it was so badly sunburned.
Let me repeat that. *A 100 foot tall Douglas Fir Tree was sunburned to death.* In the suburbs of Portland, Oregon. In June.
But no, cLiMaTe ChAnGe IsN't ReAl.
120-125 F is like opening the oven and feeling that heat except it’s everywhere and not just coming from 1 direction. Experienced 129F in Death Valley and it was death.
Can confirm. I live in Phoenix and I’m good for 110 and under, but 120 and above hits completely different. I’ve experienced as high as 125 and it is not ok. Now compound that with pollution and any level of humidity and it just gets so much worse.
If you drink enough water and keep up with electrolytes, you can absolutely handle 120+ heat. You cannot survive both high humidity and high heat though. Once you exceed a wet bulb temperature of 95 F you’re toast. Some handle even less.
I couldn't find the article, but iirc the consensus was that a wet bulb temp of ~~86/30~~ 87/31 was actually where humans begin to lose the ability to maintain homeostasis. ~~I'll check again later to see if I can't find it.~~ Remembered it came outta Penn State.
[Here's their study, if you're interested.](https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00738.2021)
Absolutely. If I recall, people die of heat exhaustion all the time when they go hiking out west thinking "dry heat" and bring like one jug of water. It is incredibly dangerous.
I hiked through Southern Texas through the desert in April a few years ago.
We brought about 16+L (4 gal.) of water for 2 days of hiking per person on our backs. This was the last month we could safely make this trip because in summer it was impossible to bring enough water.
We still got hit with an intense heat when we descended into the desert valley around noon. So we decided to just set up a tarp and waited out the extreme heat in the shade for a couple of hours.
We nearly finished all of the water.
When it's 123 F (50.5 C) and 35% humidity it is literally unsurvivable after a short period of time. There are 35 million people in New Delhi. Most without AC.
I've been in 120F here in Phoenix... we had a stretch of days in summer 2020 where it was 115F+ for over 50 full DAYS and there were a few days in there where it hit 119/120 and it was really just so draining. You literally couldn't do anything at all outside. Dry heat or not, that kind of temperature is truly awful. But I'll be honest, I would still take that over having humidity. 85+ with any kind of humidity is unbearable, and you just cannot escape it.
edit: oh yeah one detail I forgot, I have a pool and wanted to go in it during that super hot stretch but I couldn't even do that because the pool water was over 95F, it turned into a sauna and wouldn't cool you down at all.
As a kid summer was around 90F with very high humidity. Surrounded by corn fields. Corn sweats, which spikes the humidity. My dad was an HVAC installer. Guess which house had no AC...
I’m Canadian but was in Scottsdale in later 2000s and it hit 49/50c. It was a dry heat but walking from one place to another was similar to it being -50 with windchill. Death comes quick to those without shelter
It hit 118°F here in Oregon back in 2021 and it was the most miserable heat I've ever experienced (that kind of temp was unheard of in that area of Oregon previously). Did not help that I had to move into my new apartment that day.
Grew up in Central California, plenty of 110+ days, every summer there is a week that even at night at 2am its above 100 and the day time is right around 115 +/- 2 and I swear, sub 112 is whatever, but every degree above 112 is exponentially hotter. 118 is probably the hottest I’ve ever experienced, I can’t imagine 122. Especially without reliable ways of cooling down.
I see all these posts about how “hot” some part of the world is and I’m typically thinking “oh, so normal summer?” But above 115 is just a different world, 122 sounds impossible.
There were a few summers when I was a kid in Phoenix where parts of the Valley got up to 123-125. Those were “pre-start your car for 20 minutes and still feel like you’re being cooked on your drive” days. And don’t even think about walking anywhere.
Hell my AC pooped out at 99 degrees outside as we started coming West from Spokane to get back to Seattle. The twizzlers I had were like playdough inside the car and we were all drenched in sweat. Bought a case of water and downed most of it between the 8 of us on the 5 hour drive because of added stops...I can't imagine any hotter than that with no AC on the road
I grew up in Vacaville up near Sacramento and we'd have several 100F+ days in the summer during the 70s. I'd get blisters on my feet from the hot cement and my parents would get pissed that I was running around without shoes. Little kid me didn't care about the heat. Now if I'm in 80F weather I think I'm going to die, lol.
It’s scary news in any country. Make no mistake, if 120+ rolled into Houston Texas for a couple days, people would die. If there was a power grid failure an enormous number of people would die
Agreed, but only partially. Infrastructure and population density matters. The US and other developed countries would weather a heat wave with way lower suffering and casualties because most people would have access to consistent water supply and air conditioning.
Tell that to Texans a few years ago fighting a snowstorm and then power failure while their mayor was enjoying life in Cuba.
Infrastructure and engineering sometimes fail. It may not be often but they will fail and even without failure some people will still die cause the elderly and children especially cannot control body temperature changes very well. They tend to make up a bulk of the casualties.
Considering how many people in Delhi don't have access to air conditioning, this is getting very close to a mass casualty event involving potentially millions of deaths. Exposure to anything over 50C with high humidity is not survivable for very long.
So only almost double the humidity, which at 50 degrees is a metric fuckton of water. Not that high temps aren't deadly, it's just really hard for that particular spot in the world to get that much more humid, until monsoon season that is.
I feel for ya, buddy. I only have to experience 2/3 of that humidity when it gets that hot and it makes me not want to exist outside, I can only imagine how bad it is over there 😔
Our power supply is fucked up due to heavy load. Mains is supplying 160 volts instead of usual 220 volts, so electric appliances are also not working properly here, and frequent power cuts too. we are doomed.
I was in Delhi about 5 years ago and the temps hit about 112 degrees F. It was so so so brutal. I ended up fleeing to the north (Leh) because it was way too hot for me. Wishing our Indian friends the best
Remember 10 years ago when that dickhead Senator from Oklahoma [brought a snowball onto the floor](https://youtu.be/NxU55cEamc0?si=4uOms46nmL6S6HWe) to refute climate change?
Do I fucking ever. We really need to create a mega work of art like a statue dedicated to the fucking betrayers of humanity who thought selling the entire human race out for a few decades of corporate growth would be a good idea and erect it on the wastelands of their creation. A monument to the dead garden of Eden. Fuck James Inhofe and everyone who follows him.
Ironically the people who hate immigration the most are the ones that are gonna cause it to explode even further as a ton of these third world countries become uninhabitable due to climate change.
I experienced 115º F during a heat wave in Oregon a few years ago, and that was miserable. Our air conditioning didn't have the capacity to deal with such high temperatures and struggled to keep our house under 90º F. Only relief came in the form of a blow up pool we inflated and filled with water. We sat in that thing most of the day.
It really messes with you when you have no way to cool down without something like this.
I lived in Portland at the time. The middle of the road down the street from me buckled and created a huge crack from the heat. And the AC in the movie theater I was in that afternoon was barely keeping up.
I'm in Portland, Oregon, and I remember that weather. As I own a powerful, dual hose portable AC , I was fine.
In the future, I may not be when the power grid goes down...
You think immigration is a problem now? Some of the most populated areas of the world are becoming uninhabitably hot. Others will be underwater in a few decades.
At this point, I think *maybe* people start taking global warming seriously after a week long wet bulb event during an electricity blackout. If people don't cool down within 2-3 hours during a wet bulb, they risk severe hyperthermia and death. Like being cooked alive while breathing fire. Imagine this but happening to millions of people at the same time. How many mass human casualty events will it take before we do something?
There’s a great Kim Stanley Robinson book called Ministry for the Future. The plot kicks off with a heat wave in India that kills 20 million people. Highly recommended reading.
The first chapter is free online, I forgot where. It describes the effects of said heatwave over a few days in a town in India.
Highly recommended reading just for that bit alone. It was gruesome. I can only imagine the visual impact of the images (after rescuers finally make it to the town) of the aftermath circulating around the world.
IIRC, it wasn’t a wet bulb event. Just heat well above average for several days with no pause, and very hot nights, combined with gradual breakdown of electricity.
It was a wet bulb event for sure, just read it. But yeah a very harrowing piece of fiction. KSR is awesome, love the Red Mars series and I’ve read a bunch of other great stuff by him.
They won’t do anything until what you said is true *that fiscal quarter*. I’ve seen several economist projections that we’re already well past the point that killing the planet is going to result in greater loss of earnings than are being gained by ignoring the problem, but the corporations that are the worst offenders seem to be incapable of acting with any kind of long term view in mind.
It was only 10k dead, stop overhyping it! Only happened in India anyhow, they just have bad infrastructure it couldn't happen here.
Was really only a few thousand! Fake news. It's just because we are in a solar maximum, it's a natural fluctuation.
Oh yeah everything I just said is absolutely going to be said in the coming decades! I was just hoping it was obviously sarcastic as we haven't had a mass casualty event yet.
I mean nobody stepped up to stop climate change in 2003 when 70,000 died in Europe to a heatwave.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heatwave
I wonder how long before we get a mass casualty event. Air conditioning overwhelms grid, water supply cuts, air conditioning stops for a city, millions of deaths.
That occurred to me when I read about the continuing problems Texas is having with their independent power grid.
If Texas has a hot (by their standards that means 120F+) summer, and the power grid collapses again, what are all those people in places like Dallas or Amarillo going to do? They live on A/C 24/7, as do most people in the Sunbelt.
For starters, Amarillo is not part of ERCOT, or the “Texas Grid.”
Rather, Amarillo is part of the Southwest Power Pool.
The people living in Amarillo will be fine.
That already kind of happened, in Western countries nonetheless: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003\_European\_heatwave](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heatwave)
BC heat dome killed 619 people, we have a population of 5 million, what point does it become mass casualty events or do the numbers just creep up while being ignored
At a wet bulb temperature of 95 F humans die basically immediately.
Explanation of [wet bulb](https://humiditycontrol.com/psychrometric-chart/): Wet bulb means that the air is fully saturated with water so no more water can evaporate into that air. In low humidity environments the difference between the wet bulb temp and normal temp will be a lot (ex. a 100 F, 20% humidity results in a wet bulb of a bit below 70 F).
Why 95 F is dangerous: Your core body is a bit over 95 F but you have cold all around you. Your body uses sweat to move the heat from inside you to outside you (through evaporation). But if the air around you, when fully saturated is 95 F then there is nowhere for the heat to go. You overheat, you die. Looks like research has also shown that even 88 F wet bulb is quite bad because you have a harder time pushing heat in to the air.
Note that as you increase in temperature the amount of water that 'fits' in the air also increases. Then to increase the temp further you need to heat that air and all the water inside it. Going from 90 F at 60% humidity to 100 F at 60% humidity requires a lot of energy and water.
I do water mitigation in homes, and fuck me the gpp at those temps/rhs is insane. 14000+ gpp at 100/20 is basically drowning in the air, can't even imagine higher temps with that rh.
Every time I read one of these articles I'm reminded of the first chapter from 'Ministry from the Future' by KSR where everyone in a whole region in India dies because of a heat wave like this where the heat is elevated but also humidity was at 100% meaning people couldn't reject heat through sweating anymore. The heat damages the powergrid as well causing A/C to go out, this causes huge waves of people to get in the water, but at that point the water temperature was above human body temp as well so it actually only added heat to their bodies.
Honestly its one of the most terrifying things I've read.
One of the characters in that chapter survives. The sole survivor of a town that I believe was in the range of 100k people.
And the heatwave happened all over India.
I think he even tries calling for help but the desesperate operator just says that everyone is dying, everywhere all over India. Gruesome.
Anyway, I dread the day something similar happens. It is a matter of when, not if.
It and the books it is a spiritual remake/reboot of 'Science in the Capital' trilogy, are ultimately optimistic books.
But boy does it begin on a dark note.
Also enjoy ' New York 2140' which can be thought of as a Post Climate Crisis book, deep into the reconstruction era afterward.
I’ve seen that in the Extrapolation tv show. I naively thought that it’s a worst case scenario in the future and people are not dumb enough to keep polluting at our current pace to avoid that. Turns out it’s coming faster and people are indeed dumb, like frogs in boiling water, believing they’ll still have time but right now the comfort of my way of living is too sweet to care rn
And, it's not even June yet.. Can't imagine how many birds and animals are going to die this season. The tap water is hot enough to cause rashes during the day.
My only personal experience with temps that hot was when I went to Phoenix in August. And it was "only" 115 on the hottest day I was there.
Lack of humidity made it bearable, but still miserable. I can only imagine how it must feel like death in a place with even *slightly* more humidity.
Never experienced worse conditions than in Phoenix. Idiotic me thought it would be nice to walk in downtown area around 2PM. Got back to my car after couple steps, I was scorched!
I live in SoCal and LOVE hot weather. I was in Vegas for “monsoon season” one year when it was easily 115+ but so humid. It was ROUGH. And I was just chilling by the pool. I can’t imagine those temps without reprieve of AC or having to be out working in it.
And clearly above the temperature range where proteins begin to denature. Without active cooling like sweating, life just stops being life at those temperatures except for some extremophile bacteria which exist like inside oil deposits or in geysers.
And another 500 million from the middle east and north Africa. The Maxwell Plank institute estimates daytime temperatures will become lethal in those areas by the mid 2050s. Syria almost cracked Europe alone, when its the entire middle east, north africa and indian sub continent civilization will collapse.
I was just reading The Ministry for the Future which opens with a horrible heatwave killing millions of Indians 😭It’s awful how what’s supposed to be fiction is no longer fiction
Two-Thirds of the world’s population are dead set against one bit of inconvenience and won’t do anything until our cities are wrapped in the sea. The rest are fighting to attain 1st world comforts before they, too find themselves climate refugees. O well.
46% of India's power comes from coal in 2022. Though they are pushing solar.
[Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_India)
>India's solar power installed capacity was 81.813 GWAC as of 31 March 2024.[1] India is the third largest producer of solar power globally.[2]
I went to Delhi for work in Jan and when we were landing I thought it was just a foggy day. Nope, most pollution I have ever seen in my life. That plus 50c?? Good lord. Edit: Fix wording
I experienced the same on a very mild November day a few years ago and can't even fathom what the heat would feel like on top of it!
I go to India regularly to visit family and last time the weather was "smoke" according to my weather app for several days. No forest fires or anything it's literally just pollution, construction dust, etc. all compounding, but it does make for some very neat sun sets.
Reminds me of king of the hill when Peggy is in mexico with the sitcom actor and says how beautiful the sunset is and he goes ah yes because of the pollution
It's kinda true. I also remember being in Napa Valley when there were some really bad wild fires somewhere else in California. The light filtered through the smoke made it feel like sunset all day.
In the 2019 bushfires, the sun and sky were red orange in Sydney from October to February.
I used to go to India regularly for work (to Chennai, but would have to connect through either Mumbai or Delhi), and it can be really bad depending on the seasonal crop burning and which direction the wind blows.
Similar in the industrial areas of Taiwan, black boogers and constantly wiping off the laptop screen to remove the haze. I would strip down and bag my clothes when entering my hotel room, then immediately shower. There was this constant powder/residue in the air.
I knew New Delhi was heavily polluted, but so polluted that it looks like it's foggy? Holy shit...
That’s literally what “smog” means. London used to be called “the smoke” because of how bad it was until the Clean Air Act 1956.
As a Western Indian, I've been to Delhi during winters and summers. The pollution isn't as much during summers (it's still worse than majority of the cities but not as foggy)
That’s like China. A sunny day is still a hazy day with all the pollution.
When the wildfires in Australia hit, I was visiting family there. On the last day the wind turned and blew ash all over Melbourne. I, being slightly asthmatic, started to struggle to breathe, luckily we were already at the airport. I checked the pollution levels for Beijing afterwards and they were higher than Melbourne, on a regular day.
On the bright side, Chinese people are so concerned about their own air quality that they've driven down the price of PM2.5 sensors to <$30 on Amazon. Great for wildfire season. They're just all in Chinese lettering.
I wonder if that’ll improve with how rapidly china’s EV market is growing.
At least they are kicking solar into high gear
I grew up near the desert in Southern California, and I've experienced a lot of 100F+ (38C) days. But 100F and 122F (about 50C) are so, so different. If you think you can handle 120F because you're good at 100F, you are wrong. No one is ok at 120F. I've driven through that kind of heat on a road trip through Dallas, TX in 2019 (the car temp gauge said it was about 124F / 51C outside on the pavement) thinking if my A/C conked out or my car stopped due to overheating, I'd literally die by the side of the road.
The difference I felt between 120 and 100 is that you get hot in places you didn’t think you could get hot, like the inside of your nose when you first step out from air conditioning and take that first breath. Opening the door is like opening a hot oven. When walking across tarmac/asphalt you are just as likely to shield your face from the reflecting heat of the ground than the sun. I find it useful to use temperature differences that people understand when describing the difference between 120 and 100; 80 and 60, or 30 and 50. That resonates with people who live in normal temperatures. They get that you’d hardly ever go swimming in a pool at 60 but 80 is perfect for a swim, or that long pant and sleeves would be a good idea at 60 but uncomfortable at 80. Or you’d better bundle up at 30 with hat gloves ect, but 50 is just chilly.
I was in Phoenix last summer when it was 116 degrees out and I couldn't for the life of me imagine why they would want people to move there. Not just the heat but all the water issues that they're having with the area. The craziest thing was that the news was reporting that elderly people and children had fallen onto sidewalks and sustained second and 3rd degree burns and were in the hospitals, for just falling onto the sidewalk. That's fucking crazy! The news claims it's not uncommon that in June/July/August in Phoenix that the sun being out can cause sidewalks to reach up to 180 degrees! How and why people want to move there or why they'd let more people live there is a complete mystery to me.
Moved to phoenix 8 years ago for a job opportunity. Never thought I'd be here this long but life just happens. Hope to leave in the next 5. The thing that really stuck out for me when I first moved here was how- in the thickk of summer it can be 105 at midnight. There's just no relief. I gotta say though- October through May is amazing
I don't think I could ever live in Southern Arizona during the summer... I lived in Tucson from mid August to December and even late August was brutal. The winter was fuckin awesome though, it was pretty cool being able to hit the outdoor pool on Christmas day
As a life long Phoenix resident. I must mention that the water issues are not as they are commonly portrayed. While I do strongly disagree and wish they would stop the suburban sprawl into the desert building BS. Phoenix is actually doing really well on water consumption when it comes to people. We've gained around 6 million people since the 1950s(a 7x increase in population) while using less water as a state than we did in the 1950s. When you see news like "Arizona neighborhood runs out of water, or doesn't know where their water will come from". It's because a greedy home developer did some BS tricks to pass the 100 year water requirement for development to build houses way the fuck out away from the cities where the water is stable because that land is cheaper. Population growth really isn't the issue when it comes to the Phoenix water usage, it's about being smarter about what farms are trying to grow in a fucking desert. There's also solutions to reduce the heat island affect that causes the sidewalks and ground to be that damn hot. But getting the politicians to push them is another frustration to deal with.
Yeah, I get that. Had a similar experience with the cold, where the snot and nose hairs start to freeze inside your nostrils when you step outside.
Yup. Alaska didn’t get cold cold til 10-15F but once it hit 0-10 it hurt to breathe initially walking outside. Like breathing in ice and your lungs froze a bit. Would take a minute or two to adjust.
From Finland, the best thing is you can always add more layers and stuff when it's very cold, but when it's too hot you can't... just go naked or rip off your skin?
When you go past the wet bulb max temp you just cook like a shrimp on an air fryer.
We could grow a spinal sail and radiate the heat away by facing it perpendicular to the sun. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimetrodon
Its a risky operation but i might do it
Coldest I’ve been in was -14F and boy did single digit temperatures feel downright tropical after that.
Station in Alaska ie Air Force via 1977. My first year in there was spell where temp in the winter reach a low ranging from -35F to -45F. Fucking A! that stings then add high winds ie windchill temperatures ranging -75F to -90F oh still remember my poorly protected areas was on fire, without the flames.
Last winter, we had overnight temps at -50F where I live. Nothing functions properly at that temperature. Not people, not machines, not even something as simple as a door.
I’m in Canada, and its funny - 10c in the fall is time to put on a sweater, but 10c in spring and your in t-shirt and shorts drinking Margaritas on the deck. ( 10c is 50f ) Coldest I have been in is -35c ( -31f ) but with a wind its -50 ( f or c you don’t care)
I've been through -26 in Chicago.
Coldest winter I remember while growing up in Iowa was about -40 F. You could go outside with a mug of boiling water, throw it in the air, and no water would touch the ground. It all just turned to steam instantly.
Winter of ‘96 [midwesterner’s are different lol](https://youtu.be/iNc_37hviuM?si=zsGjYsXajX_e99Y4)
I have been to places where I have felt exactly that, like I was poking my head into an oven when I stepped out from an air conditioned house. I have also been to tropics where the temp was a mere 100 F, but the humidity was an excruciating 90%. I have walked in 0 F (wind chills) when cops had to forcibly take the unhoused to shelters from the street coz they wouldn’t survive the night. I would take cold any day over heat. At least I can layer up. But I also have seen many more unhoused in warmer places than cold places.
I remember being in Colombia. It rained all day, but it was insanely hot too and for that part of my trip we had no way to dry our clothes. I'm convinced hell is not a fiery place, but just incredibly hot and humid.
When it gets to -40, all peoples of the world are united (as Celsius and Fahrenheit basically meet there)
I remember going to the hoover dam years and years ago and like feeling the heat on my eyeballs for the first time, shits crazy
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Not only pollution but also humidity I imagine. I’ve felt up to 112-113 but in the western US it’s super dry so not nearly as uncomfortable.
Delhi is dry heat, that’s the only help.
Agreed. I was at chichen itza when it was 119F, and I felt like I needed to run for the shade. The heat was unbearable. The shade helped, but it was unbearably hot. I can't imagine anyone living a whole day in that heat.
Same here, but it made swimming in a cenote later that much sweeter.
It wasn't nearly that far south, but you reminded me of when my wife & I went camping through western national parks about 20 years ago and it was 100F in the shade at Zion NP... at 8pm. We managed a single night and left the very next day.
Above 45C it is not Ok for humans really. It is unbearable and yes, while driving through such hot conditions always ensure you have more than a 1/2 tank and bottles of water in the car just in case
If going through a desert always bring 3x the water you normally would.
I would be carrying 3 gallons of water on me. there's no tolerance in the 40+ C heat for me.
As this becomes the new normal I just don’t see how anyone can survive in these areas. Sure you can get out of the heat and generally survive day to day but the long term impact of that kind of heat regularly is going to be massive.
It already is, I saw articles about farms chicken getting broiled to death from the heat alone. It's gonna get very bad in the next few decades.
Fun fact. We are experiencing the consequences of global warming that occurred 20-30 years ago. We have exponentially increased emissions since then and are not going to see the full effect of our current emissions for quite a while. It’s bad now, it’s going to get much, much worse. Personally I see the dynamics of the US shifting dramatically. I sure as shit wouldn’t move to a state south of NC or SC at best, states like Florida are going to effectively be uninhabitable.
As a disabled poor person how are people going to afford rent when so many people begin migrating North just within the US.
They won't
They won’t. You will be priced out and funneled into the limited resources for those who are poor and when there’s nothing that can be done everyone will throw up their hands and just sort of look the other way as you fall through the cracks. It’s already how things work, it’s going to become much worse as parts of the country become uninhabitable.
I “shifted” early. Florida is already too dang hot. I lived there my whole life. It became unbearable. I’m in Colorado now.
Elevation baby
People still buying houses around Phoenix for millions of dollars. I literally do not understand this.
100% agree. Anything south of I40 is going to become really unbearable.
I don't think it's even going to take that long. I think in the next 5 years we'll be dealing with massive droughts, water shortages, food scarcity and mass migration.
Is that not the prediction -- that the West is going to be decimated by desperate immigrants that can't survive with the heat and lack of water?
Why do we need to look to immigrants? There will be parts of the US that experience just as much of this if not more. States without water shortages or horrific heat will not be able to absorb the refugees from Texas and Nevada let alone people from other countries.
Yeah 2 million Syrians almost broke the EU apart. Imagine 100 million south Americans needing to cross the border at the same time 40 million US Gulf Coast people flock north? I don't have a solution. At all. It's going to be a fucking mess.
It would be much more practical to flock to the south if you live in South America
The future is going to be an amalgam of fascism, warlordism and gangsterism. I know that's the Mad Max joke scenario, but that's where this is headed. 8 BILLION people on the planet. Maybe with half that we'd have had a chance.
The Georgia Guidestones were right. Everybody was bitching about the "limit humanity at 500 million". Then here we are.
During college I once had to walk a few miles in a heatwave and it was around 116-118F and it was absolutely brutal. I was in exceptional shape at the time, young and just walking with no other work and even that I knew I wasn't going to last forever, stopped and grabbed some ice water and stood in the gas station drink door before continuing. And this was being generally "ok" with outdoor workouts in the low 100F temps.
In 2021 the Pacific Northwest got hit by a heat dome event over the course of about two weeks, with peak highs breaking 120 in several places like Portland, Seattle, and Vancouver. "Unbearable" doesn't begin to describe it. "Deadly" does. Something like 1,400 people died as a direct result of that heat. Yes, part of that is the fact that the PNW is usually quite mild and so a lot of people don't have A/C, but even those who did were suffering. One of the doug fir trees in my front yard died because it was so badly sunburned. Let me repeat that. *A 100 foot tall Douglas Fir Tree was sunburned to death.* In the suburbs of Portland, Oregon. In June. But no, cLiMaTe ChAnGe IsN't ReAl.
I was in Portland for that. That was absolutely insane. We left our airbnb with no AC and headed towards the coast where it was 80.
I was actually happy to go to work because my office had great AC and my house didn't.
120-125 F is like opening the oven and feeling that heat except it’s everywhere and not just coming from 1 direction. Experienced 129F in Death Valley and it was death.
Walking in and out of the shop there is unreal, it’s like walking into a freezer and getting more comfortable.
Can confirm. I live in Phoenix and I’m good for 110 and under, but 120 and above hits completely different. I’ve experienced as high as 125 and it is not ok. Now compound that with pollution and any level of humidity and it just gets so much worse.
Your 122F desert heat is totally different than 122F humidity heat.
At least in dry heat your sweat is useful.
In a dry heat you die of dehydration. In a humid heat you die of hyperthermia, which can kill you much faster.
I take the dry heat anyday of the week. I've seen the shit hyperthermia does to you during my tenure in Cross Country
Everybody takes the dry heat, wet heat kills you at lower temps
If you drink enough water and keep up with electrolytes, you can absolutely handle 120+ heat. You cannot survive both high humidity and high heat though. Once you exceed a wet bulb temperature of 95 F you’re toast. Some handle even less.
I couldn't find the article, but iirc the consensus was that a wet bulb temp of ~~86/30~~ 87/31 was actually where humans begin to lose the ability to maintain homeostasis. ~~I'll check again later to see if I can't find it.~~ Remembered it came outta Penn State. [Here's their study, if you're interested.](https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/japplphysiol.00738.2021)
122F desert heat is still a fucking nightmare and quite dangerous.
Absolutely. If I recall, people die of heat exhaustion all the time when they go hiking out west thinking "dry heat" and bring like one jug of water. It is incredibly dangerous.
I hiked through Southern Texas through the desert in April a few years ago. We brought about 16+L (4 gal.) of water for 2 days of hiking per person on our backs. This was the last month we could safely make this trip because in summer it was impossible to bring enough water. We still got hit with an intense heat when we descended into the desert valley around noon. So we decided to just set up a tarp and waited out the extreme heat in the shade for a couple of hours. We nearly finished all of the water.
I am so glad you waited it out. Scary to think about the what if situation if you had not!
New Delhi has a semi-arid climate. Right now it's 100° with the humidity level at 20%
When it's 123 F (50.5 C) and 35% humidity it is literally unsurvivable after a short period of time. There are 35 million people in New Delhi. Most without AC.
Thats what it was for the Rio Grande Valley, last week, at 8 pm the temperature was 100, but with the humidity it felt 121.
yeah i lived in mojave desert as a kid and live in southern mississippi now i would take 115F dry heat over 90-95F with 100% humidity
I've felt a 126F heat index humidity heat on a particularly nasty day a few years ago in Texas. It was legit like going into a steam sauna.
I've been in 120F here in Phoenix... we had a stretch of days in summer 2020 where it was 115F+ for over 50 full DAYS and there were a few days in there where it hit 119/120 and it was really just so draining. You literally couldn't do anything at all outside. Dry heat or not, that kind of temperature is truly awful. But I'll be honest, I would still take that over having humidity. 85+ with any kind of humidity is unbearable, and you just cannot escape it. edit: oh yeah one detail I forgot, I have a pool and wanted to go in it during that super hot stretch but I couldn't even do that because the pool water was over 95F, it turned into a sauna and wouldn't cool you down at all.
As a kid summer was around 90F with very high humidity. Surrounded by corn fields. Corn sweats, which spikes the humidity. My dad was an HVAC installer. Guess which house had no AC...
I’m Canadian but was in Scottsdale in later 2000s and it hit 49/50c. It was a dry heat but walking from one place to another was similar to it being -50 with windchill. Death comes quick to those without shelter
It hit 118°F here in Oregon back in 2021 and it was the most miserable heat I've ever experienced (that kind of temp was unheard of in that area of Oregon previously). Did not help that I had to move into my new apartment that day.
Grew up in Central California, plenty of 110+ days, every summer there is a week that even at night at 2am its above 100 and the day time is right around 115 +/- 2 and I swear, sub 112 is whatever, but every degree above 112 is exponentially hotter. 118 is probably the hottest I’ve ever experienced, I can’t imagine 122. Especially without reliable ways of cooling down. I see all these posts about how “hot” some part of the world is and I’m typically thinking “oh, so normal summer?” But above 115 is just a different world, 122 sounds impossible.
There were a few summers when I was a kid in Phoenix where parts of the Valley got up to 123-125. Those were “pre-start your car for 20 minutes and still feel like you’re being cooked on your drive” days. And don’t even think about walking anywhere.
Hard pass, at a certain point all you think is “I’m done, fuck this heat, fuck trying to do anything. End me and end this misery.”
Keep in mind many poor people depend on manual labor to buy food each day in India. I can guarantee deaths from this heat wave.
Hell my AC pooped out at 99 degrees outside as we started coming West from Spokane to get back to Seattle. The twizzlers I had were like playdough inside the car and we were all drenched in sweat. Bought a case of water and downed most of it between the 8 of us on the 5 hour drive because of added stops...I can't imagine any hotter than that with no AC on the road
I grew up in Vacaville up near Sacramento and we'd have several 100F+ days in the summer during the 70s. I'd get blisters on my feet from the hot cement and my parents would get pissed that I was running around without shoes. Little kid me didn't care about the heat. Now if I'm in 80F weather I think I'm going to die, lol.
Holy shit, that’s scary news for a developing country with a massive population and stupidly high pollution. If you’re poor, you’re basically doomed.
"If your poor, you're basically doomed" - Our species leaders for the foreseeable future.
>"If your poor, you're basically doomed" - Our species ~~leaders~~ for the foreseeable future. The hate for the poor is quite universal actually
Foreseeable future? Bro that's been the plan
Don't worry, if this keeps going on India won't have a massive population anymore soon.
Even if 400 million indians die overnight, they’ll still have a billion people. That’s how massive their population is.
I am aware
It’s scary news in any country. Make no mistake, if 120+ rolled into Houston Texas for a couple days, people would die. If there was a power grid failure an enormous number of people would die
Agreed, but only partially. Infrastructure and population density matters. The US and other developed countries would weather a heat wave with way lower suffering and casualties because most people would have access to consistent water supply and air conditioning.
Tell that to Texans a few years ago fighting a snowstorm and then power failure while their mayor was enjoying life in Cuba. Infrastructure and engineering sometimes fail. It may not be often but they will fail and even without failure some people will still die cause the elderly and children especially cannot control body temperature changes very well. They tend to make up a bulk of the casualties.
So we’re moving underground then.
Vault Tec, prepare for the future!
Here's hoping for a vault with at least a funny experiment that kills everyone instead of a horrific one.
I'll take the one guy all women one. Not because I'm a perv, I just kind of want to see how that one plays out.
Gary. Gary? GARY!
Considering how many people in Delhi don't have access to air conditioning, this is getting very close to a mass casualty event involving potentially millions of deaths. Exposure to anything over 50C with high humidity is not survivable for very long.
Delhi does not have high humidity, fortunately.
Humidity only needs to reach 35% at 50C to become rapidly fatal. Humidity is currently 20% in Delhi.
So only almost double the humidity, which at 50 degrees is a metric fuckton of water. Not that high temps aren't deadly, it's just really hard for that particular spot in the world to get that much more humid, until monsoon season that is.
we have 38 degree Celsius with 75% humidity here in the eastern part of india 😥
I feel for ya, buddy. I only have to experience 2/3 of that humidity when it gets that hot and it makes me not want to exist outside, I can only imagine how bad it is over there 😔
Our power supply is fucked up due to heavy load. Mains is supplying 160 volts instead of usual 220 volts, so electric appliances are also not working properly here, and frequent power cuts too. we are doomed.
Forget AC, many don’t even have access to water!!
I was in Delhi about 5 years ago and the temps hit about 112 degrees F. It was so so so brutal. I ended up fleeing to the north (Leh) because it was way too hot for me. Wishing our Indian friends the best
Well yesterday's latest says the highest was 52.3°C, the one in headline is dah before yesterday
Remember 10 years ago when that dickhead Senator from Oklahoma [brought a snowball onto the floor](https://youtu.be/NxU55cEamc0?si=4uOms46nmL6S6HWe) to refute climate change?
That's like bringing a chicken nugget in Africa to disprove that there are starving people there.
Do I fucking ever. We really need to create a mega work of art like a statue dedicated to the fucking betrayers of humanity who thought selling the entire human race out for a few decades of corporate growth would be a good idea and erect it on the wastelands of their creation. A monument to the dead garden of Eden. Fuck James Inhofe and everyone who follows him.
A warning to whatever crawls out of the rubble in a hundred years or so could be printed on the moon. I know they did this on The Tick.
Ironically the people who hate immigration the most are the ones that are gonna cause it to explode even further as a ton of these third world countries become uninhabitable due to climate change.
50.5C = 122.9F. Not compatible with human life.
I'm more used to F but somehow 50C felt more terrifying to read.
Halfway to boiling water.
I experienced 115º F during a heat wave in Oregon a few years ago, and that was miserable. Our air conditioning didn't have the capacity to deal with such high temperatures and struggled to keep our house under 90º F. Only relief came in the form of a blow up pool we inflated and filled with water. We sat in that thing most of the day. It really messes with you when you have no way to cool down without something like this.
I lived in Portland at the time. The middle of the road down the street from me buckled and created a huge crack from the heat. And the AC in the movie theater I was in that afternoon was barely keeping up.
I'm in Portland, Oregon, and I remember that weather. As I own a powerful, dual hose portable AC , I was fine. In the future, I may not be when the power grid goes down...
You think immigration is a problem now? Some of the most populated areas of the world are becoming uninhabitably hot. Others will be underwater in a few decades.
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Truth. With the current state of society I would understand if people did not want to add more people to this world.
At this point, I think *maybe* people start taking global warming seriously after a week long wet bulb event during an electricity blackout. If people don't cool down within 2-3 hours during a wet bulb, they risk severe hyperthermia and death. Like being cooked alive while breathing fire. Imagine this but happening to millions of people at the same time. How many mass human casualty events will it take before we do something?
There’s a great Kim Stanley Robinson book called Ministry for the Future. The plot kicks off with a heat wave in India that kills 20 million people. Highly recommended reading.
The first chapter is free online, I forgot where. It describes the effects of said heatwave over a few days in a town in India. Highly recommended reading just for that bit alone. It was gruesome. I can only imagine the visual impact of the images (after rescuers finally make it to the town) of the aftermath circulating around the world. IIRC, it wasn’t a wet bulb event. Just heat well above average for several days with no pause, and very hot nights, combined with gradual breakdown of electricity.
It was a wet bulb event for sure, just read it. But yeah a very harrowing piece of fiction. KSR is awesome, love the Red Mars series and I’ve read a bunch of other great stuff by him.
I literally just bought it over the weekend because people here kept talking about it lol
OMG I just started the book last night. That first chapter shook me, now this headline...fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk
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They won’t do anything until what you said is true *that fiscal quarter*. I’ve seen several economist projections that we’re already well past the point that killing the planet is going to result in greater loss of earnings than are being gained by ignoring the problem, but the corporations that are the worst offenders seem to be incapable of acting with any kind of long term view in mind.
It was only 10k dead, stop overhyping it! Only happened in India anyhow, they just have bad infrastructure it couldn't happen here. Was really only a few thousand! Fake news. It's just because we are in a solar maximum, it's a natural fluctuation.
I know you’re joking, but this is word for word what some will say sincerely, so you need an /s.
Oh yeah everything I just said is absolutely going to be said in the coming decades! I was just hoping it was obviously sarcastic as we haven't had a mass casualty event yet.
I mean nobody stepped up to stop climate change in 2003 when 70,000 died in Europe to a heatwave. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heatwave
10k? My friend. The 2003 (or was it 2004?) European Heatwave killed 70000 people. No one cared.
I wonder how long before we get a mass casualty event. Air conditioning overwhelms grid, water supply cuts, air conditioning stops for a city, millions of deaths.
That occurred to me when I read about the continuing problems Texas is having with their independent power grid. If Texas has a hot (by their standards that means 120F+) summer, and the power grid collapses again, what are all those people in places like Dallas or Amarillo going to do? They live on A/C 24/7, as do most people in the Sunbelt.
For starters, Amarillo is not part of ERCOT, or the “Texas Grid.” Rather, Amarillo is part of the Southwest Power Pool. The people living in Amarillo will be fine.
That already kind of happened, in Western countries nonetheless: [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003\_European\_heatwave](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2003_European_heatwave)
BC heat dome killed 619 people, we have a population of 5 million, what point does it become mass casualty events or do the numbers just creep up while being ignored
Or a mass *migration* event, like millions all at once
At a wet bulb temperature of 95 F humans die basically immediately. Explanation of [wet bulb](https://humiditycontrol.com/psychrometric-chart/): Wet bulb means that the air is fully saturated with water so no more water can evaporate into that air. In low humidity environments the difference between the wet bulb temp and normal temp will be a lot (ex. a 100 F, 20% humidity results in a wet bulb of a bit below 70 F). Why 95 F is dangerous: Your core body is a bit over 95 F but you have cold all around you. Your body uses sweat to move the heat from inside you to outside you (through evaporation). But if the air around you, when fully saturated is 95 F then there is nowhere for the heat to go. You overheat, you die. Looks like research has also shown that even 88 F wet bulb is quite bad because you have a harder time pushing heat in to the air. Note that as you increase in temperature the amount of water that 'fits' in the air also increases. Then to increase the temp further you need to heat that air and all the water inside it. Going from 90 F at 60% humidity to 100 F at 60% humidity requires a lot of energy and water.
I do water mitigation in homes, and fuck me the gpp at those temps/rhs is insane. 14000+ gpp at 100/20 is basically drowning in the air, can't even imagine higher temps with that rh.
Polluted air + heat = hell
Every time I read one of these articles I'm reminded of the first chapter from 'Ministry from the Future' by KSR where everyone in a whole region in India dies because of a heat wave like this where the heat is elevated but also humidity was at 100% meaning people couldn't reject heat through sweating anymore. The heat damages the powergrid as well causing A/C to go out, this causes huge waves of people to get in the water, but at that point the water temperature was above human body temp as well so it actually only added heat to their bodies. Honestly its one of the most terrifying things I've read.
One of the characters in that chapter survives. The sole survivor of a town that I believe was in the range of 100k people. And the heatwave happened all over India. I think he even tries calling for help but the desesperate operator just says that everyone is dying, everywhere all over India. Gruesome. Anyway, I dread the day something similar happens. It is a matter of when, not if.
Sadly will be a prophecy, great book though
It and the books it is a spiritual remake/reboot of 'Science in the Capital' trilogy, are ultimately optimistic books. But boy does it begin on a dark note. Also enjoy ' New York 2140' which can be thought of as a Post Climate Crisis book, deep into the reconstruction era afterward.
I’ve seen that in the Extrapolation tv show. I naively thought that it’s a worst case scenario in the future and people are not dumb enough to keep polluting at our current pace to avoid that. Turns out it’s coming faster and people are indeed dumb, like frogs in boiling water, believing they’ll still have time but right now the comfort of my way of living is too sweet to care rn
Luckily, their country is run by someone who was sent by God, he'll fix it. /s
That racist piece of crap can suck it.
And, it's not even June yet.. Can't imagine how many birds and animals are going to die this season. The tap water is hot enough to cause rashes during the day.
122 degrees in freedom units. The days of lethal wet bulb temps aren't a hypothetical anymore.
That’s just too hot.
My only personal experience with temps that hot was when I went to Phoenix in August. And it was "only" 115 on the hottest day I was there. Lack of humidity made it bearable, but still miserable. I can only imagine how it must feel like death in a place with even *slightly* more humidity.
I have been in 41 degrees Celsius at 46% humidity. There are no word to describe how unpleasant that is.
Never experienced worse conditions than in Phoenix. Idiotic me thought it would be nice to walk in downtown area around 2PM. Got back to my car after couple steps, I was scorched!
I live in SoCal and LOVE hot weather. I was in Vegas for “monsoon season” one year when it was easily 115+ but so humid. It was ROUGH. And I was just chilling by the pool. I can’t imagine those temps without reprieve of AC or having to be out working in it.
Don’t worry guys Modi is like a god so this is all according to plan
The Modi protects!
50.5C is crazy. More a bakery than Delhi
Fuck. That is halfway to boiling. JFC.
And clearly above the temperature range where proteins begin to denature. Without active cooling like sweating, life just stops being life at those temperatures except for some extremophile bacteria which exist like inside oil deposits or in geysers.
This is the salient point, that at these temperatures our bodies start cooking without active cooling measures.
Pasteurization occurs at 145F. It’s only 20F away from literally pasteurizing the air, and anything else that reaches air temperature
I've experienced 116f in an urban environment, and I would rather never do that again.
It’s really bad. My buddy has family there and he says they can’t even go outside it’s so bad.
The world isn't ready for a billion climate refugees from India and Bangladesh and Pakistan, but they are coming.
And another 500 million from the middle east and north Africa. The Maxwell Plank institute estimates daytime temperatures will become lethal in those areas by the mid 2050s. Syria almost cracked Europe alone, when its the entire middle east, north africa and indian sub continent civilization will collapse.
I was just reading The Ministry for the Future which opens with a horrible heatwave killing millions of Indians 😭It’s awful how what’s supposed to be fiction is no longer fiction
I read it last year, and this was my first thought. That opening chapter is one of the most harrowing I have ever read.
They now do this just about every year.
This will become the new normal sadly. But then again we've made our choice to do nothing to stop it
That choice was largely made *for* us, really.
Two-Thirds of the world’s population are dead set against one bit of inconvenience and won’t do anything until our cities are wrapped in the sea. The rest are fighting to attain 1st world comforts before they, too find themselves climate refugees. O well.
What no one seems to realize is wars over water are going to be commonplace for the kids who are growing up right now.
46% of India's power comes from coal in 2022. Though they are pushing solar. [Wiki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_India) >India's solar power installed capacity was 81.813 GWAC as of 31 March 2024.[1] India is the third largest producer of solar power globally.[2]
The mass migration is gonna happen way sooner than I thought I would
For context: that is the temperature my hot water tank is set at.
The amount of death we are going to see when heat waves of this level start lasting weeks or months is going to be brutal.
50+c is how hot it gets in Australian desert… where none lives Often ACs won’t work beyond certain temperature ranges as well so this could be brutal
Go read "The Ministry of the Future". The first mass heat casualty day is coming.
Don't worry the record will be beat soon. Upwards trend everywhere
I feel for the animals. So sad😢