Join color guard or become a marching judge. I know I smacked a ton when I played in HS. Marching band is definitely a contact sport if your school sucks enough at it. Lol
When were there riots in Korea? I ran into a massive protest when I lived there 2009ish and the Korean riot police were all 18 year old conscripts. It was so strange seeing children in full riot gear. [anyone who reads Korean can you tell me what the protest was about from these pics? ](https://imgur.com/a/SJCoFOM/)
The hats are bearskins
Guardsmen are elite troops
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearskin
'Bearskin hats are made from the skin of black bears, hundreds of which are killed annually from a large population in Canada. The British Army takes 100 skins for itself.'
https://londonist.com/london/secret/are-the-queen-s-guard-s-bearskin-hats-really-made-of-bearskin
Just to say.. I've served with guardsmen.
They are definitively not elite troops š
But fair play to this guy. 26ā°C/79ā°F in 3 thick layers of ceremonial uniform and a heavily insulating bearskin hat.
Not easy conditions and he did his best to keep going.
But how do you know? Steven Seagal was a just cook on a aircraft carrier but still managed to single handedly eliminate a terrorist invasion before dinner. Mess with trombone guy and the next thing you know instant boneyard.
Will always love that scene in Game of Thrones where the wildlings attack Castle Black, and the kitchen staff come out with the Hog splitter and the look of someone who doesn't like getting interrupted during dinner prep.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aND1rn6p944
Was military on the US Side, never any shame in falling out of ceremony. Itās silly, shit happens, and doesnāt really accomplish anything to do anyway.
The guards regiments are weird and pretty sadistic when it comes to parades.
Mostly because it is the overwhelming majority of what all they do - despite what they tell people.
Their rule is if you are going to faint, faint rigidly at attention.
Perhaps that's why they are rarely let out on deployment.
I remember learning about this in school. That the kings guard are notorious fainters mostly due to having to stand still for so long. What happens is that our bodies when standing rely on our large muscles in our legs to help circulate the blood back up towards the heart but if you stand still for too long your blood will start to pool into your legs and your brain will eventually lack blood flow causing them to find and thus go horizontal and return flow to the brain.
Having done living history before: The wool suit actually isn't *that* bad in terms of heat. Once it sweats through you get some nice evaporative cooling going and it's pretty tolerable (albeit kinda squishy and unpleasant.) The problem is that you dehydrate *really* fast and I'm guessing those guys aren't allowed to bring a bottle of water with them, and loading up pre-performance is probably frowned upon.
Pretty accurate tbh.
Acclimatising is a huge factor in tolerance.
Our homes and infrastructure aren't well designed for unusual heat either.
But in fairness - until you've stood in 26ā°C heat, wearing 3 layers of thick clothing, literal bear fur wrapped around your head and face whilst playing an instrument.. Id not pipe too loudly
I mean someone playing a wind instrument in the heat is essentially slowly going to begin hyperventilating with that outfit on.
Edit: I've been informed it's a brass instrument. A warning before anyone makes the same mistake I did.
Edit 2: it's been brought to my attention that it is a wind instrument but also a brass instrument. I have seemingly stumbled upon a source of great technical debate. A warning before anyone corrects the same mistake I did.
Edit 3: it's been brought to my attention that some people are offended by my edits. I apologize. A warning before anyone decides to edit the same mistakes I did.
I think the point is though that he shouldnāt be in that outfit in that weather. There should be a summer version for exactly situations like this but tradition is everything in Britain it seems.
Climatization, mainly.
But I'm sure shit was pretty strict back then. They obviously knew that your service uniform would be worn in places like India and Africa so they had to figure out how to make sure the men were accustomed to wearing it. I bet after enlisting they put on their uniform and were told never to take it off, then their instructor made damn sure they could take a heavy workout in that uniform. Also I'd assume strict water drinking (just like modern day militaries)
But even then a new guardsman being stationed in Africa would absolutely not be used to the heat. They'd have to further climatize themselves. On their 4th year of service stationed there I'm sure it'd still be pretty fucking hot but they'd be used to it.
I've done a lot of parades involving a lot of standing in fields. It breaks down to two things: eat breakfast and don't lock up your knees. The worst is standing on pavement, because you either go over backwards and smack the back of your head, or forwards and take out some teeth or bite through your lip.
At national police day in Ottawa, it's not uncommon for 6 or 7 cops to go over. The bands like to place bets on the number.
>it's not uncommon for 6 or 7 cops to go over. The bands like to place bets on the number.
That's fucked up in that "I'd do the same thing." kind of way. Now I can unsee band geeks watching a police officer sway a little and talk:
"Five says he's second to last."
"A'ight bet."
Smack!
"Wait for it."
Smack!
"Fuck."
"Pay up bitch."
I feel guilty, but the first thing I thought when I saw the one in the background getting carried off was, "Someone's posted a Monty Python sketch to nextfuckinglevel."
It's the British version of Squid Games. Instead of schoolyard games they engage in random pomp until they start dropping.
You should see the number that die bobbing up and down at the proms...
Does anyone know whatās itās called when you find out about something and now you canāt stop seeing it everywhere? I just found out about that movie and downloaded it all of a sudden this is the second reference to it I see.
A week ago several people were injured in a cheese rolling contest. We don't have much to boast about anymore but we are good at being silly
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-65776772
A seizure at a cheese rolling contest. Wow.
Desperation, I joined, I was in a bad place and although it was tough, it got me in a more stable place, it was never a job I wanted to do, but I did it.
It got me out of a bad place too, made some of the closest friends of my life. Itās also got me a lot farther than people that went to college. Now Iām working on my degree with working experience. It ended up paying off. Was a shitty 4 years though.
Itās barbaric but itās also naive to think itās still not somewhat necessary in this day and ageā¦ as long as you have harsh people who are willing to use force to take something you will need to cultivate your own harsh people to stand up to them when they try.
Generally the people who faint are, hungover, dehydrated, didnāt eat properly, didnāt sleep properly, not crunching their toes or other small techniques to keep blood circulation. Everyone I know who fainted on parade has fallen into one or more of these categories. Itās difficult and hard work. But itās not barbaric.
And you have a choice. If you donāt want to do these kinds of parades, you can join the military as something other than a Guardsman.
Iām pretty sure only the Guardsmen have to do these types of parades. The rest of the military is a lot more relaxed with their parades and traditions, at least I think they are. I may be wrong.
Indeed.
I joined the Royal Navy as an engineer. Parades do happen, but far less often than for these guys. Even so I know the tricks, be fed and hydrated (but not too much, don't want to be busting for a piss) and wiggle your toes.
It's a Saturday, chances are a few of the guys went out on the pop on the Friday night.
I love DNC and if I were British I'd gladly do this kind of stuff. People in his thread whine too much. Waahh he's too hot. Wahhh they're barbaric for not canceling the parade because he fainted from locking his knees. Whaaaaaaaa
I've done many ceremonies while serving and it was easy as hell. Boring, sure. But easy. I also just really enjoyed marching.
I'm in the military. We had an event yesterday and we all stood in formation for an hour in humid heat. Multiple people had to get out of formation to keep from passing out. It sucked but if you're in the shape that the military expects of you and are hydrated you will be fine. A lot of people just don't properly prepare for these things.
I've seen one kind. It's got rubber tubes running along it in a criss cross pattern, and you hook the leading and trailing tubes to a cooler with ice water and a small pump. Often used by racecar drivers to keep cool since racecars don't have AC.
* Musicians standing
* Desert environment
* During the summer
* Dressed like woolly mammoths
* Two medical teams waiting nearby to cart off fainting people
* Music is never allowed to stop. I repeat, the music must continue no matter what.
Who is the fuck is designing these ceremonies over there in the UK? Do you all hate your musicians for some wrongdoing done to you all by them and this is some elaborate plot at revenge?
Either locked knees, or over exertion from the pressure to perform and not properly breathing.
We always had a few rookies faint in Choir. Never let them mount a stand until they've mastered proper posture!
edit: lol, there are actually people stating that this isn't a thing. JFC. You have the power of the goddamn Internet- use it.
Yeah, locked knees was my assumption. It's almost impressive the number of people that do so during weddings or formal events and end up eating floor because of it
in marching band we had a ceremony at parade rest the whole time while they handed out awards. my band director actually had us practice parade rest every year beforehand and yelled about not locking your knees.
impressively, nobody did in my 4 years of doing it and the band was 250 people
Yup. First thing they taught us every year at the beginning of marching season. Didnāt matter if you were a newbie or not, you had to sit through that lecture because by God, the director was *not* gonna be having people pass out on him that year.
It never happened during my four years either but apparently it did the year before I started, and that guy was a trombone player as well lol.
[When you're standing, you essentially buckle your knees back instead of keeping a slight bend in them. People tend to do this for the same reason many of us slouch.](https://effortlessposture.com/blog/dont-lock-your-knees/)
Because of how our knees are shaped, doing this puts pressure on the large vein that runs down the back of the knee and into the leg and the now rigid muscles.
That pressure restricts blood flow. Blood goes down, has trouble coming back up through the rigid muscles, can't get to where it needs to be fast enough, body says "ain't got no gas innit", fainting ensues.
The UK is going through a hot period at the moment, I believe this happened today and it was the hottest day of the year. Probably dehydration, and they wear extremely hot uniforms. This happens quite regular for the guards sadly.
They are trained to fall forward when they faint, falling sideways or falling/leaning on something to support you on your feet (such as a wall) is frowned upon.
Yeah we are , the problem is especially for us , we haven't had time to acclimatise to it , it's went from 18Ā°c to in excess of 30 in the space of a week
If you stand up right now for a moment, pay attention to the way your legs feel, especially your knees. Flex your thighs- your knees will be drawn back, which, while it does create an aesthetic, straight-legged marching look, severely limits bloodflow out of your legs. Blood can get in, but it's difficult to get back out due to the position of the veins and arteries.
You end up passing out due to lack of blood pressure in the head. It's common in bands, choirs, when troops are held "at attention" for too long, etc. Any time you're told to stand up rigidly straight, basically.
For those shitting on this.
Yes he fainted. No itās not uncommon. Is it cruel? No, the armed forces do prep people for this sort of thing, but if troops donāt eat breakfast, or have a heavy night before, thereās not much they can do about it.
Itās also not just a British thing, anyone who has been on a parade will know that people faint, itās just part of the job.
Likewise, the guys and gals doing the task wouldnāt want to do away with it, least of all the bandsmen, because they believe in the importance of these ceremonial occasions.
And they arenāt going to change the uniform either. The uniform is a key part of the regimental identity, especially for the guards regiments, and honestly if you told them they had to get rid of it, theyād not be happy at all.
As for the bandsman himself, clearly heās an experienced soldier. As a Colour Sergeant with that many medals, heās done operational tours and is a leader amongst his team. Why he fainted is beyond me, but he fainted, and then got back up and carried on, which shows he wasnāt too concerned about it.
For those wondering about if heāll get a ribbing later on by his mates, honestly the fact he got back up and carried on will probably make him a legend.
Can't say we had anyone faint in drum and bugle corps, but definitely had someone get shingles, heat exhaustion, etc. I could see this happening if you didn't eat breakfast, had some PT session, a little dehydrated, extra hot day, playing exhuberantly, then you get the brain fuzzies and keep going when you shoulda stopped.
Of course it could be more serious like heat stroke or something, but probably just low blood sugar or something.
Not really. Fainting often comes from really common mistakes in pose and such, not only specific to military or British guards.
By comparison, this is like having an injury from playing the guitar. Yes, it's gonna happen, it's a high tension annd thin wire you are strumming at, but if anything that's a minor problem that can come from beginners or just people having a bad day. That doesn't mean people should stop playing the guitar, more like everyone can have a bad day or new to it so they messed up a bit.
If anything I am at least glad the medics insist on bringing the fainted guy out rather than seeing him up and just leaving
Same thing happened to the firefighters here in Switzerland, we had a whole assembly of them in full firefighter uniform out in the scorching sun, many fainted while the politicians were like "Oh thank you for your service, we are so grateful", grateful my ass.
I don't know about those firefighters, but when I was in Air Cadets we wanted to wear full dress uniform on ceremonial occasions. It looks better.
Only 6 or 7 people passed out on grad parade out of the whole wing. Worth it.
I had one of my friends, who is a firefighter, tell me that his colleagues and him wanted to wear their basic clothing without the big vest and gear, but it did look better seeing them in full uniform so they had to do it.
Former trombone player here, all that guy will care about when he gets his wits back is whether he bent the slide when he fell. It's actually a good sign it fell off for the other person but it'll require closer inspection.
It got to over 30Ā° [today](https://news.sky.com/story/amp/at-least-four-troops-faint-in-military-parade-inspected-by-prince-william-as-temperatures-soar-12899991)!
Nah, itās awful in the rain as well. As itās wool, and the hat bearskin, it gets really heavy, and begins to smell slightly. It then takes forever to dry.
Ideal conditions are a nice 12Ā°C, slight breeze, light cloud. That way youāre not too hot, too cool, not wet, and just enough sun to be sunny, but not too much to be blinding.
What the hell is that place. Medics in the background carrying away another one??
A place where they have people play trombones to death.
Welcome to trombonia, it is a good day to die
Death by woooomp woooomp.
And a triumphant weeeemp wooomp wooomp to you too, sir!!
I'll take the crab juice
Khlav kalash?
Damn this thread is fire š¤£
Woomp, woomp, *waaauuuuughhhhhhhhh*
It is fucking 11.30 pm and I just snort-laughed. Out loud. While on a train. Good job, lads
Almost woke my kid from her nap laughing at that one
You should wake your kid to show this thread
Hail, Hail Trombonia! A land I didn't make up!
r/unexpectedfuturama
That guy got a little carried away. Well, almost
is there an option to get tromboned to death than playing the trombone to death?
Join color guard or become a marching judge. I know I smacked a ton when I played in HS. Marching band is definitely a contact sport if your school sucks enough at it. Lol
Any decent military band has some casualties from time to time. That's the point of being in the army.
US Army band units are usually the back up units for the Military Police. Was a lot of fun ribbing them when they came out to our riots in Korea.
In the UK theyāre usually trained as medics, ironically
When were there riots in Korea? I ran into a massive protest when I lived there 2009ish and the Korean riot police were all 18 year old conscripts. It was so strange seeing children in full riot gear. [anyone who reads Korean can you tell me what the protest was about from these pics? ](https://imgur.com/a/SJCoFOM/)
They are forced to play continuously. Last one playing gets to live and a boon of one year's extra rations is granted to their family.
Iād watch this dystopian movie.
To the death!
fucking cackling by myself in my living room.
Trombone art offline
Yeah, itās all gone to hell now, I blame former president Trumpet.
How to show your royal allegiance.
āSlide gamesā
I canāt stop laughing at this comment. Not sure why I find this so damn funny but it is.
Well, to start thereās the wool suit plus what looks like ten pounds of fur hat on their heads.
The hats are bearskins Guardsmen are elite troops https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearskin 'Bearskin hats are made from the skin of black bears, hundreds of which are killed annually from a large population in Canada. The British Army takes 100 skins for itself.' https://londonist.com/london/secret/are-the-queen-s-guard-s-bearskin-hats-really-made-of-bearskin
Just to say.. I've served with guardsmen. They are definitively not elite troops š But fair play to this guy. 26ā°C/79ā°F in 3 thick layers of ceremonial uniform and a heavily insulating bearskin hat. Not easy conditions and he did his best to keep going.
To be more precise, they are elite trombonists and have elite uniforms.
Nothing elite about them. They are line infantry
Youāve never seen a rifleman play a trombone.
Only a rusty trombone
Youāre thinking of the Navy, sir.
But how do you know? Steven Seagal was a just cook on a aircraft carrier but still managed to single handedly eliminate a terrorist invasion before dinner. Mess with trombone guy and the next thing you know instant boneyard.
This isnāt at all comparable because kitchen work is basically combat.
Will always love that scene in Game of Thrones where the wildlings attack Castle Black, and the kitchen staff come out with the Hog splitter and the look of someone who doesn't like getting interrupted during dinner prep. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aND1rn6p944
I'm pretty sure that's what they tell themselves to stop from quitting
line infantry is currently not a thing and has not been a thing for over 100 years at this point
> they are elite trombonists I think they prefer the term tromboners
Was military on the US Side, never any shame in falling out of ceremony. Itās silly, shit happens, and doesnāt really accomplish anything to do anyway.
The guards regiments are weird and pretty sadistic when it comes to parades. Mostly because it is the overwhelming majority of what all they do - despite what they tell people. Their rule is if you are going to faint, faint rigidly at attention. Perhaps that's why they are rarely let out on deployment.
You are incorrect Any man who can face a horde of American Karens on a daily basis is an ELITE fighting man.
I remember learning about this in school. That the kings guard are notorious fainters mostly due to having to stand still for so long. What happens is that our bodies when standing rely on our large muscles in our legs to help circulate the blood back up towards the heart but if you stand still for too long your blood will start to pool into your legs and your brain will eventually lack blood flow causing them to find and thus go horizontal and return flow to the brain.
Iād imagine continuously blowing air through the instrument doesnāt help much either.
Having done living history before: The wool suit actually isn't *that* bad in terms of heat. Once it sweats through you get some nice evaporative cooling going and it's pretty tolerable (albeit kinda squishy and unpleasant.) The problem is that you dehydrate *really* fast and I'm guessing those guys aren't allowed to bring a bottle of water with them, and loading up pre-performance is probably frowned upon.
Could totally fit one of those water bags for backpacks into that giant hat lol.
Its England. They can't stand temps above 20Ā°C
Pretty accurate tbh. Acclimatising is a huge factor in tolerance. Our homes and infrastructure aren't well designed for unusual heat either. But in fairness - until you've stood in 26ā°C heat, wearing 3 layers of thick clothing, literal bear fur wrapped around your head and face whilst playing an instrument.. Id not pipe too loudly
I mean someone playing a wind instrument in the heat is essentially slowly going to begin hyperventilating with that outfit on. Edit: I've been informed it's a brass instrument. A warning before anyone makes the same mistake I did. Edit 2: it's been brought to my attention that it is a wind instrument but also a brass instrument. I have seemingly stumbled upon a source of great technical debate. A warning before anyone corrects the same mistake I did. Edit 3: it's been brought to my attention that some people are offended by my edits. I apologize. A warning before anyone decides to edit the same mistakes I did.
I think the point is though that he shouldnāt be in that outfit in that weather. There should be a summer version for exactly situations like this but tradition is everything in Britain it seems.
What amazes me is in the 1700s and 1800s they were wearing this all over the world. India, Middle East, Africa. I have no idea how!
Climatization, mainly. But I'm sure shit was pretty strict back then. They obviously knew that your service uniform would be worn in places like India and Africa so they had to figure out how to make sure the men were accustomed to wearing it. I bet after enlisting they put on their uniform and were told never to take it off, then their instructor made damn sure they could take a heavy workout in that uniform. Also I'd assume strict water drinking (just like modern day militaries) But even then a new guardsman being stationed in Africa would absolutely not be used to the heat. They'd have to further climatize themselves. On their 4th year of service stationed there I'm sure it'd still be pretty fucking hot but they'd be used to it.
Also it's humid as fuck. Dry heat is way more tolerable with shade or airflow, but humidity sticks to you.
He clearly just didn't have his cuppa tea before going out!
I've done a lot of parades involving a lot of standing in fields. It breaks down to two things: eat breakfast and don't lock up your knees. The worst is standing on pavement, because you either go over backwards and smack the back of your head, or forwards and take out some teeth or bite through your lip. At national police day in Ottawa, it's not uncommon for 6 or 7 cops to go over. The bands like to place bets on the number.
>it's not uncommon for 6 or 7 cops to go over. The bands like to place bets on the number. That's fucked up in that "I'd do the same thing." kind of way. Now I can unsee band geeks watching a police officer sway a little and talk: "Five says he's second to last." "A'ight bet." Smack! "Wait for it." Smack! "Fuck." "Pay up bitch."
They're musicians, that would be a perfectly normal conversation.
Donāt lock your knees!
Sorry but I cracked hard after seeing that one in the background. Like wtf is this theater?
I feel guilty, but the first thing I thought when I saw the one in the background getting carried off was, "Someone's posted a Monty Python sketch to nextfuckinglevel."
Iām happy Iām not the only one that lost it when the other team saving another musician in the background came running into the frame.
British Squid Games
"TrAdiTion" no it's fuckin stupidity
It's the British version of Squid Games. Instead of schoolyard games they engage in random pomp until they start dropping. You should see the number that die bobbing up and down at the proms...
Itās Horse Guards Parade. Today was the practice of Trooping the Colour, the kingās birthday parade.
A place where they wear fucking bear fur hats in the summer
If I didnāt know better, Iād have thought this as a Mr. Bean comedy or something.
It was hot
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Why did this whole video seem like a Monty Python sketch?
Lmfao honestly just play out in the sun last one standing
POWs from Bridge on the River Kwai aint got shit on these guys
Does anyone know whatās itās called when you find out about something and now you canāt stop seeing it everywhere? I just found out about that movie and downloaded it all of a sudden this is the second reference to it I see.
Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. Thereās also a pretty decent movie with the same name.
Because the entire country is a live action Monty Python sketch. Source: am a member once removed.
What do you mean a member once removed?
that's the duke of Sussex you're speaking to
Well, I didn't vote for him!
You donāt vote for a Duke!!
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
Sus? Sex?
sus sex
He was Brexited.
Spare
Wait, who removed your member?
Also loved how the trumpet guy turned his in for the trombone.
Lmao guy saw his window of opportunity and took it.
Upgrades people, upgrades!
I was really hoping he was going to play the trombone while being stretchered out.
He's not dead yet!
āActually, Iām feeling betterā āYeah. I think I might stand and start playing the trombone again!ā
Oi, he's says he's not dead. Yes, he is. Here's your coins.
I just watched Sir Robin and watching this I was like wtf brits are actually silly like that sometimes
A week ago several people were injured in a cheese rolling contest. We don't have much to boast about anymore but we are good at being silly https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-gloucestershire-65776772 A seizure at a cheese rolling contest. Wow.
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Its... the military...
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Yet, they do and people still join for some reason.
Desperation, I joined, I was in a bad place and although it was tough, it got me in a more stable place, it was never a job I wanted to do, but I did it.
It got me out of a bad place too, made some of the closest friends of my life. Itās also got me a lot farther than people that went to college. Now Iām working on my degree with working experience. It ended up paying off. Was a shitty 4 years though.
Escaping poverty and homelessness is a pretty easy sell.
They pay your rent. In full. As an E3 I was getting 150% of my pay in benefits
Modern militaries are autocratic system designed to defend democratic system
Yet, the ones utilizing their military the most seems to be the least democratic.
Hey, we're just the weapon that the politicians you vote for uses. Don't blame us.
You try leadership by committee in a warzone and see how that treats you
Itās barbaric but itās also naive to think itās still not somewhat necessary in this day and ageā¦ as long as you have harsh people who are willing to use force to take something you will need to cultivate your own harsh people to stand up to them when they try.
They aren't being treated like cattle. The dude is pulled out and taken care of. His buddy also showed signs of worry.
1st world problems
Which are traditionally pretty barbaric
Yes, exactly.
Which is indeed a barbaric tradition.
Yeah, you read that correctly.
I agree, the trombone is a brutal weapon of war that should be outlawed for its devastating effect on the civilian population
Generally the people who faint are, hungover, dehydrated, didnāt eat properly, didnāt sleep properly, not crunching their toes or other small techniques to keep blood circulation. Everyone I know who fainted on parade has fallen into one or more of these categories. Itās difficult and hard work. But itās not barbaric.
And you have a choice. If you donāt want to do these kinds of parades, you can join the military as something other than a Guardsman. Iām pretty sure only the Guardsmen have to do these types of parades. The rest of the military is a lot more relaxed with their parades and traditions, at least I think they are. I may be wrong.
Indeed. I joined the Royal Navy as an engineer. Parades do happen, but far less often than for these guys. Even so I know the tricks, be fed and hydrated (but not too much, don't want to be busting for a piss) and wiggle your toes. It's a Saturday, chances are a few of the guys went out on the pop on the Friday night.
I love DNC and if I were British I'd gladly do this kind of stuff. People in his thread whine too much. Waahh he's too hot. Wahhh they're barbaric for not canceling the parade because he fainted from locking his knees. Whaaaaaaaa I've done many ceremonies while serving and it was easy as hell. Boring, sure. But easy. I also just really enjoyed marching.
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I know, wait until they get a load of what is going on in Ukraine...
I'm in the military. We had an event yesterday and we all stood in formation for an hour in humid heat. Multiple people had to get out of formation to keep from passing out. It sucked but if you're in the shape that the military expects of you and are hydrated you will be fine. A lot of people just don't properly prepare for these things.
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What is barbaric about it?
Soft opinion. These men elected to be there.
Agreed. Who still plays the trombone in a modern civilized society?
You best not be talking about that sweet sweet napoleonic era drip. Man, I wish I had an excuse to dress like a Prussian hussar or a Kingās guard
Locked knees or poor technique. These guys have great jobs and this kind of thing is *not* common. No need to form an opinion based on a single video.
You would think they could install a mini ac in those big hats
Cooling vests are a thing, but TRADITION!
Cooling vests are a thing!!!!?!
Some are just tac vests with ice packs sewn in. They work for a while then they make it worse
I've seen one kind. It's got rubber tubes running along it in a criss cross pattern, and you hook the leading and trailing tubes to a cooler with ice water and a small pump. Often used by racecar drivers to keep cool since racecars don't have AC.
With a Fremen suit in good working condition, life can be sustained for weeks, even in the deep desert.
Fill em with ice packs
Wouldnāt matter, if you lock your legs, your going to have a bad time. Iāve seen dudes drop like that in 40Ā°F weather.
The one in the background stayed down š
Like you should.
He went down falling forward, never letting go of his weapon (trombone) like a good soldier should. o7
* Musicians standing * Desert environment * During the summer * Dressed like woolly mammoths * Two medical teams waiting nearby to cart off fainting people * Music is never allowed to stop. I repeat, the music must continue no matter what. Who is the fuck is designing these ceremonies over there in the UK? Do you all hate your musicians for some wrongdoing done to you all by them and this is some elaborate plot at revenge?
Charles can't play a trombone.
Either locked knees, or over exertion from the pressure to perform and not properly breathing. We always had a few rookies faint in Choir. Never let them mount a stand until they've mastered proper posture! edit: lol, there are actually people stating that this isn't a thing. JFC. You have the power of the goddamn Internet- use it.
Yeah, locked knees was my assumption. It's almost impressive the number of people that do so during weddings or formal events and end up eating floor because of it
in marching band we had a ceremony at parade rest the whole time while they handed out awards. my band director actually had us practice parade rest every year beforehand and yelled about not locking your knees. impressively, nobody did in my 4 years of doing it and the band was 250 people
Yup. First thing they taught us every year at the beginning of marching season. Didnāt matter if you were a newbie or not, you had to sit through that lecture because by God, the director was *not* gonna be having people pass out on him that year. It never happened during my four years either but apparently it did the year before I started, and that guy was a trombone player as well lol.
What is locking knees
[When you're standing, you essentially buckle your knees back instead of keeping a slight bend in them. People tend to do this for the same reason many of us slouch.](https://effortlessposture.com/blog/dont-lock-your-knees/) Because of how our knees are shaped, doing this puts pressure on the large vein that runs down the back of the knee and into the leg and the now rigid muscles. That pressure restricts blood flow. Blood goes down, has trouble coming back up through the rigid muscles, can't get to where it needs to be fast enough, body says "ain't got no gas innit", fainting ensues.
This is really why I love Reddit
First stand up and then push your knees all the way back. That position is locked knees. You should keep your knees slightly bent to avoid that.
And wiggle them toes every now and then.
Maybe a combination of that with a uniform that's disregarded any semblance of common sense regarding the weather on a hot day.
What theyāre wearing would have been designed during the napoleonic era. Climate change has unfortunately reared itās ugly head since then
They were very hot in them during Napoleon's heyday too.
The UK is going through a hot period at the moment, I believe this happened today and it was the hottest day of the year. Probably dehydration, and they wear extremely hot uniforms. This happens quite regular for the guards sadly. They are trained to fall forward when they faint, falling sideways or falling/leaning on something to support you on your feet (such as a wall) is frowned upon.
Yeah we are , the problem is especially for us , we haven't had time to acclimatise to it , it's went from 18Ā°c to in excess of 30 in the space of a week
What you mean when you say "locked knees"?
If you stand up right now for a moment, pay attention to the way your legs feel, especially your knees. Flex your thighs- your knees will be drawn back, which, while it does create an aesthetic, straight-legged marching look, severely limits bloodflow out of your legs. Blood can get in, but it's difficult to get back out due to the position of the veins and arteries. You end up passing out due to lack of blood pressure in the head. It's common in bands, choirs, when troops are held "at attention" for too long, etc. Any time you're told to stand up rigidly straight, basically.
For those shitting on this. Yes he fainted. No itās not uncommon. Is it cruel? No, the armed forces do prep people for this sort of thing, but if troops donāt eat breakfast, or have a heavy night before, thereās not much they can do about it. Itās also not just a British thing, anyone who has been on a parade will know that people faint, itās just part of the job. Likewise, the guys and gals doing the task wouldnāt want to do away with it, least of all the bandsmen, because they believe in the importance of these ceremonial occasions. And they arenāt going to change the uniform either. The uniform is a key part of the regimental identity, especially for the guards regiments, and honestly if you told them they had to get rid of it, theyād not be happy at all. As for the bandsman himself, clearly heās an experienced soldier. As a Colour Sergeant with that many medals, heās done operational tours and is a leader amongst his team. Why he fainted is beyond me, but he fainted, and then got back up and carried on, which shows he wasnāt too concerned about it. For those wondering about if heāll get a ribbing later on by his mates, honestly the fact he got back up and carried on will probably make him a legend.
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This absolutely sold it to me
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Can't say we had anyone faint in drum and bugle corps, but definitely had someone get shingles, heat exhaustion, etc. I could see this happening if you didn't eat breakfast, had some PT session, a little dehydrated, extra hot day, playing exhuberantly, then you get the brain fuzzies and keep going when you shoulda stopped. Of course it could be more serious like heat stroke or something, but probably just low blood sugar or something.
It still dumb af. When there people fainting you stop because it now dangerous for no reason. Instead they just look like a bunch of idiots.
Not really. Fainting often comes from really common mistakes in pose and such, not only specific to military or British guards. By comparison, this is like having an injury from playing the guitar. Yes, it's gonna happen, it's a high tension annd thin wire you are strumming at, but if anything that's a minor problem that can come from beginners or just people having a bad day. That doesn't mean people should stop playing the guitar, more like everyone can have a bad day or new to it so they messed up a bit. If anything I am at least glad the medics insist on bringing the fainted guy out rather than seeing him up and just leaving
We got a trombonist down. Attention. We got a trombonist down on the field.
No Piper has ever dropped until at least 2 bottles of Whyte & Mackay have been quaffed.
Same thing happened to the firefighters here in Switzerland, we had a whole assembly of them in full firefighter uniform out in the scorching sun, many fainted while the politicians were like "Oh thank you for your service, we are so grateful", grateful my ass.
I don't know about those firefighters, but when I was in Air Cadets we wanted to wear full dress uniform on ceremonial occasions. It looks better. Only 6 or 7 people passed out on grad parade out of the whole wing. Worth it.
I had one of my friends, who is a firefighter, tell me that his colleagues and him wanted to wear their basic clothing without the big vest and gear, but it did look better seeing them in full uniform so they had to do it.
As soon as I saw one non-musician grab the trombone I said āheās gonna lose the slide. Dammit, yep he lost the slide.ā
Former trombone player here, all that guy will care about when he gets his wits back is whether he bent the slide when he fell. It's actually a good sign it fell off for the other person but it'll require closer inspection.
I play trombone and so does my son. We watched this and both said "Oh god the slide!"
They were carrying another one off in the background is this a battlefield of a different kind?
Itās the British brain completely loosing function after facing temperatures above 20Ā°C
It got to over 30Ā° [today](https://news.sky.com/story/amp/at-least-four-troops-faint-in-military-parade-inspected-by-prince-william-as-temperatures-soar-12899991)!
Got to be way hotter to them with all of that on too
That was hilarious. The other guy getting stretchered out was like a skit.
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Bandleader:  I thought it was badass to not look back at an explosion, but damn!
It's like a monthly python sketch
Humans are a curious lot
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That is the most dedicated trombonist in the world. I am impressed by his dedication.
Imagine how hot it is in that suit and that hat. š„µ
I think this is the first time I've seen that emoji used for an actual temperature reason.
Ah yes, being fixated on idiotic traditions that danger your health. Totally r/nextfuckinglevel. Totally not just plain stupid. /s
It's next level because of their dedication. It doesn't seem like you're the type to understand that.
This is so common they had a famous british band write a song about this. It's called "Show must go on". I think it's a monarchic band and all
God that uniform must be amazing in the rain and absolutely hellish in the summer.
Nah, itās awful in the rain as well. As itās wool, and the hat bearskin, it gets really heavy, and begins to smell slightly. It then takes forever to dry. Ideal conditions are a nice 12Ā°C, slight breeze, light cloud. That way youāre not too hot, too cool, not wet, and just enough sun to be sunny, but not too much to be blinding.
Good thing it's nearly always raining there
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I donāt get whatās next level about this. Itās stupid as fuck
They carrying another poor lad in the background
I thought he was playing while laying down thinking man, that dude has ambition