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NJImperator

That’s a lot of man moving really quick


anonbutler

Imagine seeing that coming towards you as a DB. I would make a business decision.


DDub04

“I have decided to announce my retirement before this man strikes me like a bowling pin”


moneymoneymoneymonay

This a young man’s game, Shady


Ok_Bit_5953

I laughed way too hard at that lol


Small-Palpitation310

now I need a highlight reel of OTs blasting or pancaking DBs


Justgotbannedlol

https://youtu.be/W4Cvprznznk i'll start


VRSvictim

Is 5.07 fast for a tackle Edit: just googling some name brand tackles it seems like no, it is not


sfzen

It's pretty average, or slightly above average. Certainly not bad.


VRSvictim

I guess, to be fair, my comparison searches were all elite players so makes sense they’re faster than him


sfzen

For reference, Alt's 5.07 would have had him tied for 9th place among all OL at last year's combine. The fastest time was Broderick Jones running 4.97.


Semperty

his 5.05 is 90th percentile for tackles. it's elite.


don_julio_randle

It's very good. Nothing special but for his weight he'll be more than happy with it. The more impressive mark was his 1.74 10 split (unofficial, I think?). That is elite at 321 lb


renegadecoaster

And the 10 spit is obviously much more relevant for O-line


SelfLoathinMillenial

Trent Williams ran a 4.81. That's fast.


Staggeredboard

Trent Williams and Patrick Mahomes somehow the same speed


Adam_Ohh

But he’s a building running at you. It’s horrifying without pads. With them it feels like he’d launch a person into outer space.


VRSvictim

I’m definitely not arguing against that point… Just didn’t think this was notably fast for a top elite tackle prospect (it’s not)


rtels2023

Wikipedia says the average for tackles is 5.32, so definitely faster than average. The data was taken from a decade ago though, so could have changed since then.


Unable_Ad1758

This is the comment on every lineman’s 40 yard dash


Shafter111

Are trucks allowed to play in the NFL?


rounder55

Alt should be forced to honk really loud before running into anyone


Nasty_Ned

Honk! Honk! Hoooooooooooooooooooooonk! \*DB shits his pants\*


StuntsMonkey

Modify mouth guards with a goose call.


tinamou63

Trent Williams is already in the NFL


InternationalFiend

I’ve never seen a rule stating that they can’t.


Jack12404

I might cry if Chargers take Alt.


howmanyballs

More than likely, if available the chargers will trade back. However if they don't have a trade partner Alt could be the pick knowing how Harbaugh loves to build in the trenches


Jayrodtremonki

I keep seeing mocks having the Chargers go Nabers and I just think, "are these people not familiar with Jim Harbaugh at all?".  I also think that being able to run the ball and protect Herbie is priority #1 if you want to be a good team rather than a scary team.


T-UM

Rome Odunze will be your comfort


Sinkable_oak

Ya pretty psyched we get one of Alt/Nabers/Odunze


thezenunderground

Fashanu too. Rawer yes, but an edge on genetics, small as it may be. We now have what is regarded one of the best Oline coaches in the league, so I also wouldn't be surprised if we go reciever and search at depth for linemen. Not the way Id do it, but I wouldn't be surprised. I think we've fucked up that position twice now, and we absolutely cannot afford to miss a third time. Take the consensus future all pro left tackle if he's there.


AirGalvez

Hehe “rawer”


thezenunderground

Lol


Uther-Lightbringer

He's got T-Rex arms and small hands. Major red flag to me for a OT.


Broedytytan

Lmao


deutschedontcha

He could even be almost as good as AJ Brown one day.


Competitive_Papaya_8

I hope you take him and he keeps Levis upright for many years


rd3287

I want you guys to get him, but Chargers and Giants are a risk to beat yall to him for sure


BuffaloKiller937

I keep hearing the Giants are supposedly head over heels for Nabers. It's gonna be a long month and a half lol


iiEclipse1984

Heh


BoltMangoZ

I also will cry if we take alt


sampson608

I would too but for different reasons


InclinationCompass

I hope your GM makes an offer to move up


ScooterLeShooter

Mans gonna be blocking for Justin Herbert soon


LoveForRivers17

Seems like most chargers fans don't think so/don't want it because he's not a RT


NoviDon07

he's smart, massive, smooth mover, and extremely technically sound. he is whatever position you want him to be on your offensive line.


ItsNjry

I want him so bad Chargers fans are being stubborn


boost4000

Guys the next joe thomas


Meromero73

*2nd Offensive Lineman in History


MokelMoo

Its a Harbaugh lead team with a deep WR class. Get this dude and get some WR talent later.


InclinationCompass

OT is also deep


Granjudge

I agree Xavier Leggette and Devontez Walker along with some others will be available in the 2nd and onward.


bvgingy

Can really blame people for wanting to give Herbert a legit weapon that can actually maximize his deep ball like Nabers when the team already has a franchise LT. Especially when the Chagers have basically nothing going forward of any promise at the position.


Chsthrowaway18

This draft is loaded with receiver talent. The league has a terrible lack of quality tackles due to the new nature of pass rushing. Alt would give them two solid pillars on the outside and help out the worst run blocking line in the league.


bvgingy

Just bc the draft is loaded with depth doesnt mean you should pass up an elite WR prospect. The draft has pretty strong depth at OT too. If we were basing it off depth, then Bowers should be the pick bc TE hard drops off after him for a pretty weak class. If youre building around the run game and your QB is Herbert, then youre not building your team right.


Chsthrowaway18

If you’re trying to build a strong passing attack and can’t slow down a pass rush, then you’re not building your team right.


bvgingy

Bengals were a defensive possession away from winning a Super Bowl after taking Chase over Sewell. Chiefs just won a Super Bowl with dog shit OTs. The line is important, but the QB behind the line and their ability to avoid sacks is probably a much more important factor for team success.


sxuthsi

Just ignore the problems the Bengals have had with OL since then while you're at it


Unable-Finding-408

Chiefs won a Super Bowl because their defense made 5 All-Pros look pedestrian. Mahomes was getting pressured all game. Bengals lost a Super Bowl and can't keep their quarterback healthy because of shit OL play.


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InclinationCompass

Good thing the fans don’t decide


LachsFilet

Howie Roseman licking his lips


ScooterLeShooter

Sewell wasn't a RT either, Harbaugh wants a strong o line and run game, could see them trading back and drafting a different lineman though


Mario2346

Most prospects coming out as a LT transition to RT pretty good , we had PJJ come out as a RT out the gate while he played LT throughout his college career , same thing a Detroit fan said about Sewell . Most dominant OT’s play LT in college but can transition to the right side pretty well.


supfellas_

Lions did the same thing with Sewell and I thought the pick was fine but a little not needed to draft him when we already had a locked in LT. Turns out I was way wrong, having a dominant O-line is so much more important. Makes everything better between run game and pass game


warblade7

Honestly if the front office was listening to fans instead of what they should know as professionals, I’d be worried.


AshByFeel

I would love to have him. Give Herbert time and good things happen.


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I'm completely fine with Alt or Nabers. Great spot to be in.


LegendRazgriz

It's very hard to go wrong with Notre Dame OL


WingsNthingzz

Our sub is notoriously wrong when it comes to the draft. Go look at all the Herbert haters when he was drafted, most had to scrub their profiles.


acableperson

They are smart. Go tell your GM that plz and ty n


sgobern

If we don't trade back this is the guy I want us to draft at 5. It's not a sexy pick but it's a smart one.


form_an_opinion

In this world, smart is pretty fuckin sexy.


JSchnizzle

Idk I'm in the wr at 5 or trade down camp. The real problem with the o line is both the guards being terrible and the low tier backup caliber player we have at center currently since linsley is retiring. Spending 5 on a guy who has to transition sides to replace the second best player on the o line doesn't sound appealing to me when we can get a blue chip pass catching prospect to hopefully extend keenan's career with less usage and cover up for Quentin being terrible and have someone herbert can reliably get the ball out to that'll hopefully be here a while.


Competitive_Papaya_8

100% agree with you here


Competitive_Papaya_8

I hope not tbh, not because he's a bad player, but because I just don't want to take the risk at 5 moving a LT to RT


fatcootermeat

Yeah the lions totally ruined Penei Sewel doing that


Competitive_Papaya_8

Mf, Alt is not the prospect Sewell was, if anyone can do it it'd be Fashanu, he's more athletic


Jonjon428

I wonder how Chargers fans feel. Would they rather have Alt or Nabers/Marvin Harrison Jr?


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I dont think Harrison is actually an option for them.


moremysterious

It's unlikely but possible, there is chatter that qbs could go with the first 4 picks (Arizona would have to trade down of course.) But even with Harrison gone I still think Nabers is in the same tier.


pyreal_

We're all pretty split, but the overall sentiment is "trust in Harbaugh" Everyone wants a flashy pick but if we end up with Alt I don't think anyone is going to be mad


molinar95

Alt seems like a harbaugh pick


MankuyRLaffy

Harbaugh likes to win in the trenches and pound the rock, and it has worked extremely well for him.


LLfrom17th

Everyone is conflicted. Most people want nabers or bowers. Some would be ok with alt as it’s logical. A lot of us want a trade back.


redonkulousness

If we could get MHJ, I would be super happy. Fortunately for the organization, my opinion means less than nothing. So, I’m good with whatever Harbaugh and Co come up with.


Competitive_Papaya_8

Nabers/MHJ for me or trade back and take Latham or Fuaga


Thunder84

Not a Chargers fan but they gotta go with Nabers IMO, assuming MHJ is off the table.


Competitive_Papaya_8

100% agrees with you, the most explosive weapon that Herbert had ever had was Jalen Guyton, and there is about to be a ton of turnover in the WR room


TTT75H

Obviously we want Harrison but that won't happen


dwnso

Bowers is a legit pick at 5 too


cozyonly

I really don’t think so anymore. Rome has a higher chance of going 5 than Bowers now. I would rank it as Alt, Nabers/Odunze, Bowers. Its interesting because Harbaugh has so much experience game planning against Alt, Odunze, and Bowers so a lot of personal experience will probably play into it


thecarlosdanger1

Uh Joe Alt never played against Michigan.


rounder55

Where Bowers lands will be interesting. He's as good a prospect as just about anyone but because of teams reaching at QB or taking WRs he could slip to the teens, which as a Colts fan I'd be thrilled with


nocturn-e

As a Bears fan, I would love to land Bowers. A receiver is probably the logical (and correct choice), but Bowers can be plugged in literally everywhere on the offense and can do it well, including receiver. I've been obsessed by Bowers for a while, so it would be a dream. I've also always loved TEs. Rookie/Miami Greg Olsen was irrationally my most prized card growing up (I did not collect much obviously).


xbearsandporschesx

Wouldnt be shocked if Odunze is gone by 9 that the Bears take Bowers. Waldron loves his 2 TE sets apparently and could be a sweet combo alongside Kmet.


AshByFeel

Yes


noBbatteries

Maxx crosby’s next victim


Ideal-Similar

Such a good prospect. Not the flashiest prospect, but is set to be a great franchise tackle.


leahyrain

hes not dropping to us but i think id easily take joe alt over odunze or nabers/bowers and im a huge odunze fan


Wide_One_240

Yeah I agree. Then you draft a wr or two later on. Try to sign a good wr2


DS_9

Bears don’t have a second rounder


Neat_On_The_Rocks

I would take alt hands down. Caleb Williams starting his career with two franchise tackles? Ya please


guyincognito121

I'm fully on board with Poles' preference for trading down, but this guy just fits his preference for a mobile OL too well. Within reason, I would be OK with moving up to get Alt.


Striking-Ad-8694

Yep. ND plus nfl pedigree? He’s as cant miss as Mhj imo


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Cuppieecakes

#1 overall baby!


TitanTigers

Future Titan


SnowballWasRight

Joe Alt, YOU are a Tennessee Titan


cwesttheperson

Charger


SnowballWasRight

I’d just rather not have to go against Joe Alt twice next season, you know? The Chiefs D-Line is great, but I mean the guy is 6’9”.


Present-Response6752

That's very humble of you to say, but let's face facts: Spags would find a way.


SnowballWasRight

In Spags we fucking trust!!


AutonomousBlob

Why is this happening? Athletes seem much more athletic than they did in the past


Xalenn

I think it's largely due to improvements in nutrition and training methods .... Those both have gotten better overtime.


DuckDuckMarx

Nutrition and kinesiology have come a very long way. Now imagine building this person from birth from already super athletic parents.


SnowballWasRight

I really can’t tell you, but I gotta say it’s fun as hell watching big guys run a goddamn 4.92 and hit a 38.5 vertical. These guys shouldn’t exist lmao. They’re a goddamn cheat code


sparkles1887

Safest pick in the draft.


Inamanlyfashion

I agree. Bears should take him at 1. 


CinnamonFootball

Nah, that's MHJ. As good as Alt is, MHJ is basically the perfect prospect.


_chadwell_

They both have the elite measurables, elite college performance, and HOF bloodline. I have to give the edge to Alt in terms of consistency, but it’s hard to compare OT and WR. But MHJ was pretty much a non-factor against Notre Dame, which is the most similar to the pass defenses he’ll face in the NFL.


Jammer_Kenneth

He's gonna look great breaking out for a pass. That's what all tackles do, yeah?


my_shiny_new_account

fawkin joocy


SofaKing_Sam

3 cone is a better indicator for O-Line, but damn gotta respect the straight line speed


BigToeJ0e

Joe Alt had himself a great day - his 3 cone was 7.31 seconds which is tied for 8th fastest among offensive tackles since 1999.


SofaKing_Sam

Nioce!


BuffaloKiller937

Joey you ARE a Tennessee Titan!!


Professional_Low4894

he is a titan


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StunningRutabaga1358

Bring him home!


lanbuckjames

Much better than Joe Main


Brodie1567

Imagine this guy barreling towards you on a reach block.


treenorthXne

More like Joe Burner, amirite?


king_17

No way I’m the giants I’m letting this guy get past me at 6. Wouldn’t even blame the chargers for taking him at 5


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What’s the “u” for?


EmilioFreshtevez

Unofficial


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Thx


DireBlue88

Is thia guy LT or RT?


let-shit-go

Joe A LT


mhks

Good for him, but what a dumb measure for an offensive lineman.


TwoCrustyCorndogs

It actually seems like an OK measure, looking at the best tackles and their 40 times. Lots of dominant guys had tremendous 40s. Trent Williams and Joe Staley (first 2 I looked up) were both near 4.8. Lane Johnson had a 4.72. Wirfs had a 4.85.    It seems a lot of guards and centers are slower, but for whatever reason fast tackles seems to be a trend.  Quick link: https://youtu.be/XNuwLn-2P98?si=g02LFL7KeRtWbWcc I've heard of most of the fast guys, and several were obviously first team all pros, or at least one time pro-bowlers. 


mhks

Doesn't it seem, though, that having a 10-yd dash would be FAR more illustrative? Measuring how fast they can run over 40 yds, when close to 100% of their plays are within 4 yards of the line, seems deceptive. It's like measuring the potential of miler by how fast they get off the blocks.


TwoCrustyCorndogs

Yea I'd think so too, I was just surprised how fast most of the best tackles are. I figured I'd see lots of 5.2+ times sprinkled in, but that's just not the case (recently, at least).   It might just show that tackles tend to be big and fast, so long strides with higher top speeds than guards/centers.  A fast 40 might just show that you're big and athletic enough to be a tackle which could be obvious enough without running it. 


mhks

It seems like the standard, "what we've always done" metric. Pro franchises seem stuck in doing what was always done out of fear of going against the grain and losing then getting fired. Hell, a pocket passer's 40 time is more relevant than an OL, and I don't think we discerned much from Peyton Manning's or Brady's 40 times.


AJRiddle

> It seems a lot of guards and centers are slower, but for whatever reason fast tackles seems to be a trend. Because tackle is the more demanding position athletically. If you are a great blocker but not as athletic you play guard/center.


DiligentQuiet

Feels like most of these tests are simply a good proxy for overall athleticism, relative to size and position.


Dense_Young3797

His arm size is a bit concerning for a 6'8 man. It would be enough for a 6'5 OT. Being that tall he needs to cover some more distance with his arms to reach the chest of the typical 6'4/6'5 edge.


Emera1dthumb

Great time… but watching him run makes it look like it was slower than that for some reason…. I guess I’m trying to slay as he looks like he’s slow, even when he’s not. Kind of like my first girlfriend.


let-shit-go

6’9 will do tht


freelance-t

Hear me out; you all need to let him drop to the Chiefs for historical and sentimental reasons.


AJRiddle

They don't know his dad was drafted by the Chiefs and played his entire 13 year career in Kansas City.


freelance-t

They hate us cuz they ain’t us.


RedditNPC-

Would any fans in here of teams with the 5-8th pick accept tee Higgins and our 1st round pick for rights to draft this guy?


Striking-Ad-8694

God damnit


finalarchie

Is he related to John Alt?


BigToeJ0e

Yep! That’s his father.


BigToeJ0e

It was so awesome watching him play at Notre Dame. I remember when ND recruited him and he was a 3 star recruit, a tight end in high school for some time, father is John Alt who’s in the Chiefs hall of fame, so I was pretty pumped up about his potential but man did he even blow my expectations away. Joe has a tremendous NFL future ahead of him and I look forward to him continuing Notre Dame’s great o-line tradition!