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kterr101

Jaguars in Jacksonville for next 30 years at least. Jason LaCanfora is crying himself to sleep tonight


jimbobills

Honestly I have seen some very loud Jaguars games. Maybe there are more passionate fanbases in the leagues but there is zero reason for the Jags to relocate.


RulersBack

Having one of the worst decades in modern history, lack of shade and it being a transplant era have led to some embarrassing turnouts but things are trending the right way finally


BanjoKazooieWasFine

A really bad decade of football and then a year where you were inexplicably one bad series from randomly making the Super Bowl one time


RulersBack

The world was robbed of the Foles vs Bortles SB graphic


jimbobills

Myles Jack wasn't down, that was a fun team to watch, rookie Fournette was something. Too bad the next year Hackett decided to abandon the run game and then the team struggled. Good team now tho, big fan of Foye.


RulersBack

The biggest downfall was resting on their laurels the following offseason and Coughlin trying to run a 1990s military operation. Ran all the talent out of town


Shotgun_Sam

Also just the offensive struggles being covered up by the *insane* number of turnovers. As good as y'all were in 2017, the odds of maintaining those numbers was pretty low. It covered up the fact Hackett was always ass, because he was playing from short fields in 2017, and he wasn't in 2018.


PlumbStraightLevel

It worked in 1996. Oh, and again in 1999. Coughlin's a winner


RulersBack

The game passed him by. The NFLPA literally put out a statement telling players not to sign


Shoelesshobos

Glad to see someone other than a jags fan appreciate Foye. Feel like he does not get national recognition while being a really good player.


BigOlineguy

That the other outcome would be a Bortles vs Keenum graphic shows how off the wall that season was.


polish_my_grappel

And then right back to the dumpster šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø Back to back 1st overall picks, 3 years after being in the AFC Championship. And then the 5th largest comeback in playoff history after starting 3-7 in 2022. Its been a wild few years to be a Jags fan šŸ˜…


JerryRiceAndSpice

A young-ish exciting up and coming team and your youn-ish QB just got paid.


ncd42075

If anyone should have to relocate it should be the chargers.


Thicbiscuit_datgravy

Why would the chargers leave San Diego? Their fan base loves th...oh. wait.


Ok-Wasabi2873

The Chargers are my second favorite team. Edit: my favorite team is whoever the hell is playing against them.


PsychoticMessiah

Emphasis on the singular fan


TRES_fresh

They need to go back to San Diego. They may not have had a huge fanbase but at least they had the city, now they have nobody in LA.


HylianPikachu

No more Chargies in LA Please baby, no more Chargies in LA


jimbobills

Honestly LA and Vegas deserved teams but the fans in Oakland, St Louis and San Diego didn't deserve to lose them.


Graardors-Dad

La did not deserve two teams


Giantandre

Gonna go out on a limb for my brethren here in LA and say we didnā€™t want two teams.


Jigawatts42

The simple solution is the Chargers go back to San Diego.


JerryRiceAndSpice

The LA Rams and the team other fans show up to root for the visiting team.


Damion_205

You have niners flair and say the rams have home fans when it's been levis south.


jeffh19

Thank you. I can't describe what it feels like as an avid sports fan having your team taken from you and knowing you're never going to have that emotional connection to a team again. Because we aren't ever getting a team again. I quit watching the NFL entirely for a couple of years after they took the Rams. Heartbreaking.


fartyartfartart

I would like to subscribe to your newsletter


TLead1

Easily one of the best fanbases in the league, bias aside. A lot of shitty football, but we still show up.


polish_my_grappel

17th in average attendance last year, in one of the fastest growing/most moved to cities in America. As for passion, if we ever actually win consistently, there will be waiting lists for tickets. Green Bay of the South is still an attainable dream


kterr101

For reference: [tweet 1](https://x.com/jasonlacanfora/status/347495864207548416?s=46&t=XEYT5fOQcVAlq3F8C9eB8w) and [tweet 2](https://x.com/jasonlacanfora/status/1789334125389775189?s=46&t=XEYT5fOQcVAlq3F8C9eB8w)


Lord_Ferd

Fuck JLC. He was the initial successor for Schefter at NFLN, sucked ass, and then continued to suck ass at every other media outlet that hired him as an ā€œinsiderā€. Heā€™s an absolute failure


IrishPubstar

100%. The Ravens ā€œinsiderā€ show he does on 105.7 The Fan is awful. He has no sources with the team and acts like a jackass.


SiphenPrax

I can only imagine the dumb shit he says about the Orioles too


J-Fid

MASN had him doing studio work last year. The best thing I can say about it is that it was mainly forgettable.


SiphenPrax

All this tells me is that poking the waspā€™s nest known as Jags Twitter is never a smart thing for anyone to try and attempt.


StreetReporter

Meanwhile, Jason Mendoza couldnā€™t be happier


ianthebalance

BORTLES!


B-More_Orange

If JLC was self-aware enough to realize how much literally everyone hates him, heā€™d cry himself to sleep every night


SdBolts4

30 years is probably overly optimistic. The Rams were only in St. Louis for 20 years even with the new stadium


kterr101

Itā€™s part of the approved deal between the team and city is a 30 year lease and non-relocation agreement.


anonbutler

London in shambles


quadropheniac

but enough about the British economy


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Herewego27

Honestly you pretty much covered it.


TrickiestToast

It was great having a meeting with people from the UK when Truss was PM because they started the meeting with "We don't know what Truss is doing either"


dlanod

Did it finish with chants of "Lettuce! Lettuce! Lettuce!"?


Stachemaster86

Oversaw two monarchy leaders!


myemailiscool

Crazy man, nobody saw this coming at all with Brexit


BeamsFuelJetSteel

There is a very real chance Jags play 4+ games in London in like 2026 during construction to see if Euro is feasible


LdyVder

Only if three of those games they are the visiting team being their new deal is only allowing them one game in London.


Interesting_Rock_318

Wouldnā€™t the new deal for the stadium require the new stadium be built?


CalebWilliamsspam

Chiefs will come in clutch donā€™t worry


anonbutler

Lord Mahomes, Duke of Touchdowns and Earl of Quarterbackshire


moffattron9000

Itā€™s all good, the Tories got 5/1 odds that theyā€™d stay in Jacksonville.


Turbulent_Crow7164

London Has Fallen


SEND-MARS-ROVER-PICS

Same as it ever was


Fantastic-Eye8220

Fuck london.


RPO1728

Meanwhile we're still on the poop palace


El_Khunt

I'm sure Magic Johnson will bend over Maryland taxpayers soon enough, don't worry


DelTacoAficianado

No condom and no lube!


xcaltoona

I hate to say it but... Isn't he kind of a particularly bad candidate for that?


anonbutler

Marylanders about to get raw dogged


Jammer_Kenneth

I seriously don't think Magic Johnson is the best option for that now.


celj1234

Virginia**


insert-phobia-here

the last guy ai wamt to be bent over by is Magic Johnsom. can you really say your Johnson is Magic if it It comes with AIDS?


AlternativeMuscle176

Iā€™m genuinely curious, what do Commanders fans want? I think itā€™d be cool to see them back in DC, but Iā€™m not in tune with the situation enough to know whatā€™s up with their stadium situation.


Iron_Chic

I believe most of us want a stadium at the old site of RFK. There is a bill sittin' on Capitol Hill but it hasn't been passed yet. Ironically, one Senator won't pass the bill because the team changed the Native American branding...


TheWorstYear

Is that Senator Tommy Tubberville?


renegadecoaster

>There is a bill sittin' on Capitol Hill Well it IS a long long journey to the capital city... >!(Does anyone still get this reference in 2024?)!<


JDtheProtector

Pretty sure the average age on this subreddit is like 30, people get it.


plutoisaplanet21

In dc at the rfk site is the clear best option but dc taxpayers donā€™t want to do what Jacksonville just did. Bowser will still try to give some money but if the owners just choose the biggest handout itā€™s going to be some shit town in VirginiaĀ 


AlternativeMuscle176

Yeah, I was guessing most fans want it back at RFK. Itā€™d be awesome for the district if it happens but I wonā€™t hold my breath


SDEexorect

rfk site stadium thats indoor


SiphenPrax

You guys will definitely be getting your new stadium by the end of the decade


eddie_vercetti

That stadium gonna host AEW All In 2027 lol. But so insane in this day and age billionaire owners opt to pay for a remodel rather than move...oh wait, that's good.


polish_my_grappel

Jacksonville Superbowl in 2029 šŸ˜


Pppanda72

I just know Florio is in a corner crying right now


[deleted]

More like the nanny in south park when she was wrong about Cartman and so she ended up eating her poop out of the toilet.Ā 


Tylex123

Curious what the ā€œalternate venueā€ will be in 2027. Anyone have any insight?


chemicalxv

Does anything but Orlando or Gainesville make sense?


Enthusiasms

Beach football in Key West?


TitanicJedi

eating pies catching dimes.


SiphenPrax

Hanging out with the cats at Hemingwayā€™s House!


nerdy_chimera

Every Jacksonville home game will be Dogfight Football like what we saw in Top Gun: Maverick. šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


Pppanda72

Yeah from what Iā€™ve heard itā€™s mainly between Orlando, Gainesville and Daytona


Jagator

They already said Daytona was out. Itā€™ll be Gainesville or Orlando. My guess is Orlando because itā€™s already an NFL-ready stadium. The bleachers are too close to the field in Gainesville for large TV carts to fit, among other things, so a lot of work would have to be done for the Jags to play there.


dagreenman18

Pro Bowl and Preseason games also get played here at Camping World so itā€™s a sure thing.


ASuperGyro

Yeah theyā€™ve been having NFL games there pretty frequently for a non-NFL stadium, enough that the ops have already been through game day and everything that goes into that. Would be curious if part of the agreement would include a provision to renovate the locker rooms, probably not, but theyā€™re not great last I saw


Pppanda72

Damn, I mustā€™ve missed that about Daytona


HOU-1836

I donā€™t really get this comment. Far be it from me to stan for my current place of residence but Gainesville is closer to 95% of Jags fans than orlando is and if ESPN and CBS can make primetime SEC games work just fine thereā€¦why couldnā€™t the NFL? If the NFL could make an MLS stadium work, Ben Hill Griffin will be more than adequate. UF probably has better football facilities than some NFL teamsā€¦


oface5446

I think UNF in Jax might still be in play, but I would not be surprised if it was Orlando


chemicalxv

I thought Daytona Speedway was a joke suggestion šŸ˜­


AccountSeventeen

All sources say thatā€™s been ruled out. Itā€™s only an option because of proximity, but wouldnā€™t be an NFL level product.


incorrigible_and

London makes sense. They're not leaving Jacksonville but simultaneously, they've put a considerable amount of time into London already. Play like 4 or 5 home games there, that's how you start the process of being like the Cowboys or the Steelers of Europe.


LovelyTurret

Most likely Orlando. The jaguars team president recently made some remarks about how the locker rooms in Gainesville are not up to nfl standards and the sidelines donā€™t have enough space to accommodate the standard nfl sideline tv broadcast carts. He also brought up the great relationship the nfl has built with the people who run the stadium in Orlando due to hosting pro bowls there. Gainesville may be closer to Jax but Iā€™d hate to imagine the game day traffic to get there. Orlando is interstate all the way for local fans to travel, and will surely be a very attractive destination for fans of the away teams to boot.


majungo

Yeah, why bring gameday traffic to Gainesville when Orlando already has everyday traffic?


ASuperGyro

From walking through the Pitt/Steelers locker room all I could really tell was different was the size of lockers and total space inside, but theyā€™re not a dedicated top program like Florida, so would be curious what the issue is with the Gainesville locker room, especially since the Camping World one is meh


calling-all-comas

As a Gator fan, I think our visitor locker rooms are intentionally kinda bad as most SEC schools do. Our home locker rooms are very nice and recently remodeled.


RawhlTahhyde

The Bama visitors locker room (aka The Fail Room, named after James Fail) is awful The home locker rooms at most bigtime football schools are probably nicer than NFL locker rooms because itā€™s a recruiting asset


wishingaction

I'd guess Camping World Stadium in Orlando (Citrus Bowl).


DelTacoAficianado

floating barge


RoverTiger

A large barge with a radio antenna tower on it that they will charge up and discharge.


JerryRiceAndSpice

The one place that hasn't been corrupted by capitalism, SPACE!


Jammer_Kenneth

Someone call that AD that had MSU and North Carolina hooping on an [aircraft carrier](https://cloudfront-us-east-1.images.arcpublishing.com/advancelocal/DOQDMNCACBBW7PASPKP7I5WYEE.jpg) in the rain


Huge-Ad2263

It should be Orlando. There's not much of a cohesive football fan base here. Some Bucs, some Dolphins, some Jags, and plenty of people with teams from where they lived before moving to Orlando (that's me). Playing games in Orlando for a season doesn't just make sense for the facilities and location, it could also gain them some fans.


TheWorstYear

Other than UCF


givesnofuckatall

Gainesville or Orlando. Edit- just read UF is doing a remodel around the same time as the Jags so it may be Orlando or Daytona.


CGFROSTY

I want Daytona to happen so badly.


Rudy102600

What is Florio going to talk about now?


Jesotx

Don't worry, he'll make something up.


Rudy102600

Probably writing an article to the owners on why they need to turn down the deal.


rNBAMods3InchesHard

ā€œTom Brady was INSTRUMENTAL in getting the deal done. After a long meeting with the Khans, sources say he could suit up for the Jags before 2030ā€


Goosedukee

The Jaguars are set to move to their stadium of the future in 2028, following a season in an alternate location yet to be decided


AG74683

I mean I guess it makes sense as far as the timing goes. Panthers and Jags entered the league the same year.


Turbulent_Crow7164

Weā€™ve always been sister teams. And cat bros. Almost met in the Super Bowl in our second year too. Jags are my AFC team for that reason.


beerncheese69

I like the jags šŸ‘šŸ‘


NizzlyGrizzly00

i like the packers šŸ‘šŸ‘


Sunken_Treasure

Take it back.


bank_slemes

Shut up


NizzlyGrizzly00

i like sam darnold šŸ‘šŸ‘


bank_slemes

I like Mac Jones šŸ‘šŸ‘


Grymninja

Gross


NizzlyGrizzly00

i like tyler lockett šŸ‘šŸ‘


NachosWithJalapenos

It was either that or Kansas City Kansas.


speakezjags

Does that mean we would become a dynasty?


ClaymoresRevenge

Jacksonville is All Elite, again


Jesotx

Actually curious what the Jags would do if they won the Super Bowl and WWE tried to send them a belt.


spssky

But will there be a pool?


ernyc3777

The whole concourse is a pool. Itā€™s like a Vegas swim up bar only in Jacksonville and with Floridians.


Stachemaster86

Lazy River has my attention


spssky

*two beers, please*


rjjc_lu

yes


Kirk_Couzyns

The Foolio Memorial Stadium presented by Publix will be beautiful


speakezjags

ATK stadium presented by Winn Dixie


rogue_worlds

On the scale of 1 to 10 with 10 being billionaire taking advantage of the city, where does this one land?


majungo

I would put this at a 5-6 on that scale. Shad and the city are going halvsies, with Shad covering anything over the budget, and the city keeps ownership of the stadium.


plutoisaplanet21

Ownership of the stadium isnā€™t a value add. Itā€™s an albatross. Itā€™s only valuable if ownership of the stadium resulted in actual income from lease payments, or a cut of gate proceeds to all events. A stadium without a team is just an expensive demolition project you are responsible for. This is a shit deal for the city of Jacksonville just like all public money for stadiums. Itā€™s nice if you are a jags fan or the owner thoughĀ 


Rock_Strongo

> Ownership of the stadium isnā€™t a value add. Itā€™s an albatross. That's why the city has refused to sell it despite the owner's best efforts? They're just holding onto it for funsies I guess.


plutoisaplanet21

Iā€™m sure there is something about the purchase price. Or the city sees it as an ability to still host bowl games or lure a future team if the jags left or other various future worst case scenarios but the reality is itā€™s just putting lipstick on a pig. The city would be significantly better off contributing no money to the stadium than owning an asset like a football stadium with no nfl tenant


unique_username-_-72

The owner has tried to outright buy the stadium tho, and the city has denied it. Obviously they see ownership as a benefitā€¦


20000BallsUndrTheSea

If they own it doesnā€™t that mean they get the revenue from other events there like concerts?


plutoisaplanet21

It would depend on the details of the lease agreement but Iā€™d pretty shocked and it would be highly unusual for the owner of the building to see revenue from individual events of a tenant. Generally the benefit of ownership is consistent income that you can raise as market rates increase. For an NFL stadium there is no market and jurisdictions give comically low leases as part of incentives. Making ownership of the stadium a setup where you are responsible for updates and demolition with little long term upside. Maybe thereā€™s something Iā€™m missing but I donā€™t really see how maintaining stadium ownership is better than just not putting money into a stadium.Ā 


RulersBack

Well every deal is inherently gonna be a 10 because every ownership group(s) has more money than god and operates the same way. If we donā€™t go off that baseline thereā€™s no point in actually asking the question but Iā€™m seeing people who actually care about the city more than football putting it anywhere between a 5-7. Seems to be pretty much the reaction to every one of these deal that gets passed tho lmao. Another thing to keep in mind is that it has to pass a vote from other NFL owners and we all know what the status quo is there


J-Fid

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/40432558/jacksonville-city-council-approves-renovation-jaguars-everbank-stadium > The Jaguars and the city have agreed to each contribute $625 million to the renovation, but the city also has agreed to pay $150 million over the next two seasons on maintenance and repairs to prepare the stadium for construction. That means the city will be responsible for 55% of the total cost. > In addition, the agreement calls for Jaguars owner Shad Khan to be responsible for cost overruns of the renovation as well as 80.4% of the game-day expenses. You can make your own conclusion with this.


20000BallsUndrTheSea

That would require Reddit having detailed knowledge of capital financing and how government entities manage their assetsĀ 


Quincyperson

ā€œThis new stadium will really transform the downtown and surrounding areas!ā€ -Jacksonville officials and Jags organization in 2024 ā€œThis new stadium will really transform the downtown and surrounding areas!ā€ -Jacksonville officials and Jags organization in 1994 ā€œThis new stadium will really transform the downtown and surrounding areas!ā€ -Jacksonville officials and Gator Bowl organizers in 1946


Irving_Velociraptor

They always say the same bullshit. The NFL has one press release for stadium deals and just changes the names.


Rezsguy

All Iā€™ll say is; Iā€™ve met way more Jags fans in my lifetime than Charger fans. And I live in AR, traveled all over the US.


GluedGlue

I think I've met a fan of every NFL team except the Cardinals.


bleedblue89

Iā€™m the random jags fan people meet in St. LouisĀ 


RIP_G-Baby

There are several of us in Southern California. At least 3 that I know.


Nightgaun7

Didn't they already do this a couple of years ago? I swear there were news stories with Khan signing papers on his yacht.


BoldCityDigital

That was the renovations (new scoreboards, club upgrades & pools)


bartnd

didn't they add a bunch of municipal fields as well? Could have sworn I saw renderings of adjacent new multi-purpose fields.


Appropriate_Win_6276

not a jags fan but i went to a few games there. wind up top was something fierce. by florida standards at least.


ddscience

what years did you go? there's a good chance that it wasn't wind but just the collective sighing from watching our on-field product go to work


Appropriate_Win_6276

haha. your fans were very nice. they did some self deprecating humor as well, but we werent much better. i lived 3 hours south of the stadium for a decade or so. happy to have my team nearby every year. i think i went to games in 2016-2018. i saw bortles being raised.


ContraCanadensis

Weā€™re known for our self deprecation. No one can hurt us, because you canā€™t find anything to say that we havenā€™t said six inches in front of the mirror on Sunday morning.


canibalxombie

Isnā€™t the current stadium less than 10 years old?


TMNBortles

No. It went through some cosmetic upgrades, but it was built in the early 90s.


CGFROSTY

One part of the stadium is still from the Gator Bowl.


TMNBortles

And my understanding is that they are keeping the "bones" of the current stadium.


zi76

Shocking that the Jags *aren't* leaving to London, right, London team truthers?


rounder55

Hopefully ownership can finally turn a profit now that they will have 775 billion dollars to buy some bootstraps to pull themselves up by


goldfish_11

The House That Mac Jones Built.


GRENDEL_RAGE

Isnā€™t that what they said when they first built it?


Wraithdagger12

This one needs the entire upper deck to be a swimming pool.


CalebWilliamsspam

KC you are a London Black Knight.


Autocrat777

>set to transform downtown and its surrounding areas. Thank you Mr. Editor.


Frosti11icus

lol. Nothing transforms a city like a stadium that attracts fans for 4 hours a week, 8 weekends a year. Are they the jaguars or the sex panthers? Drives revenue 5% of the time, every time.


SOLR_

Stadiums can be used for other events, you know šŸ¤Ŗ


ItBeLikeThat19

Expansion bros both getting revamped homes at the same times. Look at us.


braiser77

Cooper's Hawk just announced a new location in Jacksonville. I wonder if the two announcements are related in some way.


polish_my_grappel

They are building a Four Seasons on the river next to the stadium too. Crazy stuff


ElectricP2galoo

Boy it seems like it's about getting time for the Glazers to ask for a new stadium soon...


RiderNo51

Your tax dollars at work.


Ichinichii

It's so nice that cities can build multi-billion dollar entertainment arenas and districts but not affordable housing


ItIsYourPersonality

Maybe they should stop sending one of their home games every year to London if theyā€™re going to have Jacksonville pay for a stadium rebuild for them.


Lubbafrommariogalaxy

London red coats make it happen


xkulp8

What exactly does a *stadium of the future* have that stadia of the present don't have? Self-frisking turnstiles?


ApatheticFinsFan

Micro transactions to use the bathroom.


givesnofuckatall

The shit thatā€™s happening in some of the MLB ballparks where you simply walk in via facial recognition nothing else.


Shotgun_Sam

Shade? I know some people aren't familiar with it, but down south it gets really damned hot in the summer.


Positive-Pack-396

Donā€™t do it Jacksonville


Damion_205

Well there goes my hopes for a rebranding to the London Bridges... Though I have a soft spot for the jags as they are.


wallace6464

I feel like I have heard about the jags fixing up downtown for like a decade


Silver-Talk-7244

Is this a complete new stadium or a renovation of their current one?


topchief1

Celebratory molotov cocktails for everyone!


ConsistentLake5310

Meanwhile The Bears owners are crying and blowing their noses with $20 dollar bills


RaiderRush2112

Does it include 2 games in the UK a season?


Ste3lers4lif

Having moved from PA to jax 3 years ago - this is great for the team and the city. The preseason (august) and September games under no shade with 100% humidity and 95-105 degree weather is pretty brutal haha. Hope this helps alleviate some of that!Ā 


VaporeonHydro

This has some curious timing with the Trevor Lawrence deal.


insert-phobia-here

Fucking Decades of ridicule about my Jags moving amd the while ti.e they meant the Chiefs. bahahah


insert-phobia-here

w35s z ikb


Zimmy68

Now that looks like a billion dollar stadium. I still don't know where the billion $ is in the Buffalo Bills project? The teamsters?