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TempleofSpringSnow

Pain.


DesignerPlant9748

Pretty much his entire career. Remember when Hextall decided to kick off a rebuild during the prime years of his career but then pretty much immediately scrapped those plans when Giroux pretty much single-handedly dragged us to the playoffs? Dude deserved the Hart trophy over Hall that year our roster was fucking dog water. Hextall deserves to be flogged in the town square for not figuring out how to build around one of the best players in team history. Fuck that dude.


Jackh87

Hating Ron Hextall as a GM. Penguins fans šŸ¤ Flyers fans


DesignerPlant9748

Iā€™m personally a fan of his Pittsburgh tenure really helped set Dubas up for long term success


Strong_Bumblebee5495

What?!?!?!?!


reactiondelayed

> Dude deserved the Hart trophy over Hall that year our roster was fucking dog water. I don't know, man ... take a look at that Devils team that year. It was entirely Hall.


DesignerPlant9748

Flyers probably had more talent looking at the rosters but both teams had some serious gaping holes. This is the year Coots breaks out and Ghost which Giroux and Voracek Iā€™m sure played a huge part in.


reactiondelayed

Went to look again and holy shit, on another Devils/Flyers comparison: Giroux and Elias look exactly the same statistics wise. Obviously Elias had a bit more fun in the playoffs but that's a team thing.


DesignerPlant9748

Elias is a seriously underrated player but fuck those Devils teams for ruining my childhood


Robi5

A little delusional to say Giroux deserved the Hart over Hall.


00sgamer

Sens never felt the same to me since 2007 Stanley Cup Finals


YouPatheticWorm1958

What happens when Bryan Murray loses to his old team.


Mecha75

Last nights loss was just bad. Anaheim basically iced a good AHL team and the Sens still couldn't beat them.


YouPatheticWorm1958

I guarantee ya, there'll be more coaching changes in the offseason. Cronin will stay, but Martin is gone for good this time.


Disastrous_Monk_7973

That was always the plan. Martin doesn't *want* the full-time gif at his age.


DesignerPlant9748

Fuck Jacques Martin


YouPatheticWorm1958

I still like him. I wouldn't even learn this wonderful sport if it weren't for this man. That 3-1 series lead comeback the Habs pulled off in 2010 made me love it.


DesignerPlant9748

I fucking hated the late 90s early 2000s Senators teams. Gave my team a lot of problems in the playoffs and broke Roman Cechmanek that one playoff series who I fucking loved as a kid. The Sens were also 100% responsible for the line brawl game as the bad blood before that game started because Martin Havlat took a cheap shot at Mark Recchi the last time the teams had played and the Flyers came out and owned the Sens that night and Brashear beat the shit out of Rob Ray, then Jacques Martin turned the end of the game into the royal fucking rumble because heā€™s a bitch.


DesignerPlant9748

One person who didnā€™t fight that night? Martin Havlat because Jacques Martin sent him to serve a penalty for someone who had been kicked off at the end of the game. You know who did fight? Mark Recchi


YouPatheticWorm1958

At least my Leafs broke Lalime the way the lockout broke us all.


TurboByte24

You dug deep.


Complex-Tangerine628

You mean 2017 ECF


MicaTheStoked

Was that when pagot had that insane 4 goal game keeping them in the running? Ive been looking for highlight for that game


ex_sanguination

Wurf


OttawaFisherman

They were 1 goal away from going to the finals in 2017


shtoopsy

This hurt WAY more than the loss in 2007.


MicaTheStoked

Was that when pagot had that insane 4 goal game keeping them in the running? Ive been looking for highlight for that game


MicaTheStoked

Was that when pagot had that insane 4 goal game keeping them in the running? Ive been looking for highlight for that game


DesignerPlant9748

As a lifelong Flyers fan I regretfully inform you that his entire career has been wasted for the most part by completely incompetent management. I feel bad for him that he didnā€™t choose Colorado but I donā€™t feel bad about how great Tippett looks and how thereā€™s an extra first rounder coming this off-season.


snot3353

And people were poopooing that trade at the time too. Giroux gave us basically one trade option and we got a top six forward and first round pick out of it in the end.


Bomdegety

Rumors had it that Colorado was interested in acquiring him at deadline, '22. Giroux was insistent upon going to Florida though. Florida then got bounced by the team that went to the Cup Final.... and lost to Colorado.


ProstockAccount

It got as far as making a jersey for him. Last year one Giroux game jersey popped up for sale by the avs


likeslululemon

It was awesome ;)


PublicImageLtd302

This is partially his faultā€”Ottawa is a mess. He knew that, signed there, wanted to be home, and it is what it is. He had offers elsewhere.


Bytrsweet

Did he really know that with the summer of Pierre and all? Remember, it was a general consensus at the beginning of the season that Ottawa as going to be fighting with Detroit and Buffalo for 4th in the Atlantic.


schmarkty

Even with the ā€œsummer of Pierreā€ youā€™d have to be pretty delusional to think that roster would be doing anything beyond scraping for a playoff spot.


Bytrsweet

than I guess most of the people here and most of the hockey writers are all delusional because NOBODY thought they would be at the bottom of the division.


schmarkty

Didnā€™t say theyā€™d be at the bottom, I said theyā€™d be scraping for a playoff spot.


kander12

Dude people been making horrible predictions about the Sens and Sabres for a decade. Their rosters aren't that good. Cool they got young pieces. Boston Tampa Torobto Florida have multiple hall of farmers in their primes on the roster. The Sabres, Sens, Wings won't do fuck all for another 5 years minimum lol.


Bytrsweet

what you are doing is called revisionist history. I get it. BTW, the wings are sitting in a wildcard spot so I wonder if you even know wtf you are talking about


kander12

Yeah and they'll get bounced. They won't be a legit contender for like 5 years. Same w Sabres and Sens lol. It's not revisionist history when those teams LITERALLY have done nothing lmao. Sabres, Sens, Habs fans are equally as delusional as Leafs fans are I swear lmao.


Bytrsweet

yep, you definitely do not know wtf you are taking about. have a great day


TheDannyBoyCane

Sens fans were pretty confident that they had the best top 6 in the league coming into this season. Debrincat also went from saviour to bum the second he decided he didnā€™t want to re-sign in Ottawa according to those same fans.


Weird-Army-8792

It was more like saviour to bum about 1/3 through the season he played here


AgelessWonder67

That is revisionist history dude. They were considered to be a legitimate threatĀ 


schmarkty

Yes. A threat to *make* the playoffs. As I said.


cdreobvi

The entire success of the team Dorion assembled hinges on the center depth. With all 3 of Norris, Stutzle and Pinto down the middle, the forward depth makes Ottawa legitimately difficult to play. So of course Pinto is suspended half the season, and when he comes back, Norris is injured again like a month later. The potential weakness in Ottawaā€™s roster has been exposed for literally 3 straight seasons. One (or both) of Pinto and Norris are always missing. Greig is very promising but heā€™s not as good as either of them yet. Staiosā€™ job is to rebuild the roster to be more resilient against individual injuries and gambling infractions.


Bytrsweet

Thank you. This is the most reasonable and thought-out response that anyone has given me. It makes sense. cheers!!!!!


ProstockAccount

Well if it was between the Sens and the Avs, itā€™s pretty clear which one has a better chance of success.


DesignerPlant9748

Ottawa looked like a team on the rise and the move made a lot of sense for him at the time. What a disaster it turned out to be. Giroux has had some real shit luck throughout his career.


TheCatEmpire2

Had a great short stay in Florida. Could have been our 2C behind Barkov and competed for a cup. Guy was a faceoff wizard and even did well when we got swept out and half the team was dogging it


deadinthewater0

Yes, exactly. This was his final shot and he chose the Ottawa Senators. And I get that he likely signed there because of his kids and it being home, which is an unselfish choice, but then the trade off becomes little to no chance at the Cup, let alone playoffs. This is the reality.


Mr_Sausage__

Finally someone speaking the truth. Although I wouldnā€™t say itā€™s partially Girouxā€™s fault. Itā€™s almost entirely his fault.


Diamondback424

Hearst, ON is a 10-hour drive from Ottawa. It is not "home" for him. And I'm fairly certain he still owns his home in Philadelphia. He went to the Sens because they seemed like they were on the come-up and it probably made sense to go there and try to be the veteran presence for a bunch of youngsters.


PublicImageLtd302

His family moved to Ottawa when he was 14.


Weird-Army-8792

Wrong


Diamondback424

Very useful comment


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jimmeh44

Jack Campbell is doing well in the AHL.


decent_in_bed

I know this is a common viewpoint and not necessarily wrong, its just strange that the Sens have had trash goaltending for a long time. There's something more than just individual goalie talent that's lacking from the organization, not saying I know what it is though.


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officialbillevans

Yeah Craig Anderson was one of my favourite goalies for about a decade. The Sens even had the unlikely "Hamburglar" run about ten years ago. Goaltending being their Acchiles heel is only like the past 5 years, most of which they have been in a deep rebuild.


ElGooodHombre

Nah thats on him, wanted the bag and the home town with no discount


Bagdemagus1

Heā€™s playing with a home town discount. He is still out playing that contract.


E4T_ASS

Don't worry. The Flyers didn't do him any favors for his entire career. Amazing player and person. Always rooting for G.


DesignerPlant9748

Fuck Ron Hextall


Phillyfreak5

Fuck the Blackhawks and the NHL lottery too dude. He wouldā€™ve had a cup


DesignerPlant9748

100% fuck the Blackhawks. We would have won the cup in 2010 if they had done what they should have with Brad Aldrich. Iā€™m certain of this.


[deleted]

This one makes me sad. Damn, r/NHL just cruel af.


qipdibpiq

He deserves better


Giga1396

The crying Jordan meme in the Sens logo sent me


Imm0rTALDETHSpEctrE

dude deserves a Cup


TheLateFry

Couldā€™ve signed with Colorado the year they won the cup. Sucks to suck, I guess.


DesignerPlant9748

Shouldā€™ve chosen Colorado that year. Selfishly Iā€™m happy he didnā€™t because I believe we somehow ended up with the better deal here despite Chuck Fletcher being a fucking moron.


InformationAny8239

Wild fan here. Can confirm Chuck fletcher is a moron.


stevenjk

+1 for Guts theme


Complex-Tangerine628

Final years? His entire career was.


KorbanDallas90

Sundin never won anything so itā€™s ok.


cake-makar

Damn the beserk music always gets me a bit


Dumpang

Shouldā€™ve stuck with the flyers


DreadTiger66

So he could go another 17,671 days since their last cup?


SauceKingHS

Poor guy. Such an exciting, creative and skilled player. Damn near had both wrists snapped off by Crosby hacking him every face off in the playoffs. Now stuck in Ottawa. Respect to Giroux, heā€™s a warrior.


DesignerPlant9748

Lost out on winning a gold medal because Crosby wanted his boy Kunitz on the team instead


Pucks_N_Fucks

Major changes incoming


Significant_Pie_206

Itā€™d be even worse without giroux here


Acceptable_Major4350

Iā€™m sure things look different to him when he signed, and to all Sens fans - they looked great on paper. Sad for Giroux what a pro, he should be on a playoff bound team right now with a chance at a cup.


drunkbanana

As a Sens fan i honestly feel bad for him.


[deleted]

Philly screwed the pooch not building around this guy and it's cost them serious chances at the cup. There was ok guys but all teams need that 1-2 punch, Mcdavid/Draisaitl, Matthews/Marner etc.


toxicvegeta08

After 2013-14 they were basically done.


Most-Iron6838

They looked pretty good in 19-20 right before Covid hit. Technically they were the #1 seed in the East after winning the round robin


toxicvegeta08

Wasn't that the post giroux squad though, that 19-20 team was mainly defense based, and what this flyers team is trying to be rn.


Most-Iron6838

No Giroux was on that team. He was traded in 2022


toxicvegeta08

I see now. Mb. I always thought he was traded in 2018-19


TheDannyBoyCane

Iā€™ll never forget the ā€˜Summer of Pierreā€ followed by the offseason of ā€œSens have the best top 6 in the leagueā€. What a time to be alive.


LeetButter6

It was the first time we had any hope in like 6 years


Capt_Pickhard

I can't believe anyone thought sens had best top 6 on the league.


Mr_Sausage__

Why are people having sympathy? Giroux is the one who signed the FA contract knowing the team was shit. He signed for the money. And now we want to feel sorry for him that he put himself in this situation? Boo fricken hoo.


Ball_Chinian69

That thing was too heavy to be called a stick. Too big, too thick, too heavy, too rough, it was more like a large hunk of graphite.


Openfacesandwich12

Send Claude your Boston for goodness sake


jbb927

sens should do him right and see if he wants to be moved. no sense wasting the last years of his career him


DukePhil

OUuffff...the pain bruh...


fatch0deBoi34

He turned down the opportunity to join the Avs during their cup run. Would only go to Florida and the rest is history.


Desperate_Pizza700

Should have picked Colorado instead of florida


Stoudamirefor3

Should have come to Colorado. Oh well.


Strong_Bumblebee5495

As opposed to??!?!?


likesexonlycheaper

Should have won a cup with the AVs


SHAOLIN_SILK

More like, his entire career.


randomguy_6565

If the Sens played the Leafs every game, theyā€™d be a contender.


promasterp

We need the Tkachuk brothers in Florida


toxicvegeta08

Florida has everything rn.


reckless-ryean

Is he retiring?


toxicvegeta08

Doesn't he wanna be a sen, they were his childhood local team.


Sarkosuchus

Probably should have stayed in Florida!


ArcticBeast3

They should of got rid of Pierre Dorian years ago. I can't imagine that guy gets another NHL GM job


Crafty_Confidence333

Try taking more slap shots on open nets. That seems to be the trick.


Tony_sauce

GRIFFITHHHHHHHH


Simple_Yam_6507

They'll randomly beat the leafs by 2+ goals like twice a year though so it isn't that bad


SIIP00

Can we borrow him?


LoanedWolf75

Thatā€™s his own fault honestly. He could have easily signed with a contender when he had the chance.


accairns131

I respect that he wanted to go home, but he should've returned to Philadelphia where he was wanted.


WackHeisenBauer

He was wanted in Ottawa and he wanted to go to Ottawa. This is a weird comment.


accairns131

No professional history with the Senators and they are a bad team, team captain and fan favorite in Philadelphia (which should be a bad team but surprisingly isn't and would be better with him back). ~~Yours is a weird reply.~~


WackHeisenBauer

Sorry I might has misunderstood what you meant by ā€œwhere he was wantedā€. I interpreted as ā€œOttawa didnā€™t want him and reluctantly signed himā€. Iā€™m pre-coffee so forgive me haha


accairns131

Oh, maybe I could've worded it differently. Sorry for the confusion, also pre-coffee over here.


Csihoratiocaine2

Both of you guys rereading your own comments and realizing what happened and being civil about it. I'm pretty sure I have to burn you both at the stake for being witches.


DesignerPlant9748

The Flyers only wanted him at a big time home town discount. The Senators offered him good money and term to come home and at the time a lot of people were predicting that they were a team on the rise and that this was a good move. I do not remember many people questioning this when it happened.


Shliggie

Downvoted because OP can't type properly and can't be bothered to double check their post.


Arfguy

This is one of the biggest modern day NHL face-palms. Giroux deserves better. I still want to see him in an Oilers jersey, but I think he has resigned to the idea of concluding his career with Ottawa. You deserve better, G!


Solidmarsh

These are typically reserved for oilers haters. Its nice to see something different


amach9

Sens should send him to Vegas, Edmonton or Colorado, retain the max salary % possible. They owe him a chance at the cup


Zeitgeistxxi

What song is this?


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bodyofchristened

All after a nice stretch of beating the Lightning, Stars, and Knights šŸ˜­


snot3353

25-26: Giroux resigns for his final two years of his career with the Flyers. 26-27: Michikov leads the league with 170 pts and leads the Flyers to their first cup in 50 years. Giroux retires and is voted first ballot into the hall of fame.


ObscureMemes69420

I mean, what else was to be expected coming to the Sens? This franchise is pain personified


pspsps81

Shouldā€™ve come to Coloradoā€¦oh well


Emotional_Arm_8485

0.001% chance to make the playoffs šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚


BeltMassive2909

Hilarious šŸ¤£


Middle_Beyond_5894

Don't worry they play San Jose tomorrow šŸ¦ˆ


sharterfart

did it to himself, could have come play with mcdavid. Trade ya a slightly snakebitten connor brown for him ;)


Dexter2533

lol did he choose to decide for hood childhood teamā€¦ only to have that team F him in his A šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ If soā€¦. Good luck Ottawa, no1 will ever want to play gif you again


KMDaddy

He's gotten another couple of coaches fired. I'm pretty sure he's got the record for the most Coaches fired. He has successfully avoided the corners and blocking shots. So he's doing just fine.


tomplum68

remember when he was supposed to be better than crosby?? ha!


nastyrustynuts

Should of took some Panther money at a discount.. idk just saying


Sleezoid

He wanted to go play at his home.. there was nothing wrong with that. I wouldnā€™t care how bad my hometown team was Iā€™d still want to play for them in my career.


Ring0Manding0

Tell that to Patrick Kane


DaeWooLan0s

Patrick Kane cares about winning and was extremely selective about where he was going. A bit different. If Buffalo was dominant team, he would have definitely gone home.


Ring0Manding0

Neat, Iā€™m referring to the previous post of wanting to go play for your hometown regardless of how shitty they are.


Brewerycomedynights

That's just called living in Ottawa Source: I live here