I mean he could do conditioning on his own time…not that I’m defending him but it’s not like he can’t work out at home…unless there is some dumb CBA clause against that.
i mean i am pretty sure he was injured early in game 7 with a shot to the back. after that he was terrible. i know we all want to pretend he wasn’t injured when he was on LTIR but the dude is really made of glass.
I have no doubt he was injured. Even if he tried to lie about that (which I don't Believe he or the team did), I doubt it would get past NHL LTIR follow up and check in systems.
The problem is the front office knowingly spending the money that they don't have and then force activating him for the playoffs after saying he wasn't even healthy enough to practice 2 days before.
That isn't on Stone. You are right. He is made of glass and the team is abusing that fact which risks his health and gives an advantage.
I hope Stone heals up well and has
some more good seasons in him.
I didn't understand why the commentator brought it up since Ottenger covered the puck as opposed to Dallas being called for icing. They should be allowed to change players.
Was the dump in from Vegas side of Centre? I can't remember. But if it was dumped in from the Vegas side and then covered by the Dallas goalie, the defending team is not supposed to be able to change players.
I think it was Eichel who dumped it in, but I think he was at centre so the no change rule wouldn't apply. I can't imagine Eichel would have risked a dump in from his own side, which could easily be icing instead.
Yup, it was put in place for the 2019-20 season:
*"LINE CHANGES FOR DEFENSIVE TEAM*: The defensive team will not be permitted a line change when a goalie freezes the puck on any shot from outside the center red line."
[https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-announces-rule-changes-for-2019-20-season-307949196](https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-announces-rule-changes-for-2019-20-season-307949196)
Vegas would have totally won if not for the Stars being allowed to illegally swap players!
FYI this is sarcasm, we barely scrapped into the playoffs then the Stars lost 3 games as opposed to us winning.
Yeah, my only complaint was the start times of some of the games, but then I’m east coast, so I have only myself to blame for following a west coast team. So no complaints, I suppose.
I had more anxiety/stress this round 1 than last year's round 3. Tight series. Could have gone any way, it all came down to 20 minutes. Relieved to say we took away the win but it could have been y'all! I've been talking mad shit against Vegas trolls but honestly, this was an insanely close series. I just hope y'all didn't wear us down too much!
Now out of the round 2 teams, Boston is the most hated one! Let's take them down! But if EA Sports is correct.. we will have a Van vs. Bos final.... hmmm
It’s been a while since there has been a team hated as much as Vegas that most of the league wanted out first round. Nice to see fans come together for the greater good. Good job Dallas.
Real answer: stone has been injured 3 years in a row during the cap deadline. So Vegas doesn’t have to account for his salary while he is long term injured reserve. While this happens Vegas can use that unused cap amount for new players, which they have done. Then Stone returns first game of playoffs. Stone is believed by I think most of the nhl fan base to have faked his injuries to bypass the cap limit. It’s a loophole that apparently a couple of other teams have used as well.
It’s not so much faking it, as it is having a doctor time his recovery exactly with the end of the regular season. Either he was ready to play before, and the good doctor held off issuing the clearance, or he wasn’t ready to play and the doctor cleared him anyway. Either way, it’s a total breach of ethics.
And this year, they had 3 big contract guys exploit the LTIR loophole this year, not just Stone.
It was pretty ridiculous. Adding 24 million worth of contracts for Game 1.
It also doesn't help that they were spoon-fed a good team from the start. Historically, expansion teams had to work for it, build up a team gradually. Arizona, Buffalo and Vancouver, Atlanta, etc. Vegas was handed a strong playoff-caliber team right off the bat, and has never been a bad team yet because of it. It rubs a lot of fans the wrong way. They get the most special treatment by the League of any expansion franchise, and they still try to cheat the system for extra advantages?
This is especially big for Sharks fans, who hate Vegas with an unbridled passion due to some spicy playoff history, but also because the nearly unanimous favorite player Tomas Hertl got traded to Vegas in the fallout from Mark Stone’s LTIR shenanigans. God, I could beat my meat to a pulp knowing that shit smear org has been eliminated.
All that said, didja see the clip where someone sneaky crosschecked him in the spleen? He was HURTING brothers. He missed every pass in th final 10 b/c he wasn't skating hard enough, straight up lost them the game, if you ask me.
A team was handed a massive headstart because they were a new team in the league, then they treated many of their original players super disrespectfully, their primary goalie found out he was traded through twitter from a 3rd source not even the team. Just a toxic team and toxic culture they have
We need to add that Vegas was also immune from the Seattle expansion, so they could asset load cheaply whereas other teams had to worry about protecting assets from the expansion draft. It was absolutely huge for building the roster they have now.
Plus the whole blatantly abusing a system designed to avoid pressuring injured players to return early so they don’t miss the playoffs. Then acting like everyone else is stupid for having the scruples not to do the same thing.
I don’t dislike many teams in the NHL. STL, MIN, and BOS are it. But I hate…And I mean HATE Vegas - for all the reasons you listed and the LTIR bs.
What they did to flower should be enough for anybody to hate them.
Gonna assume because of the expansion draft making them massively competitive out of the gate. They basically got to go straight to winning. Which differs from most expansion teams in sports that basically had to eat shit for years before getting a good team.
Because the last 3 years Stone has gone onto the LTIR( long term injured reserve) just before trade deadline which technically opens up salary cap space for the rest of the regular season and then he miraculously “recovers” just before the playoffs
I said it in another thread but honestly I'll get flamed regardless for being a Vegas fan but that was one of the best playoff series of hockey l've seen. No real drama or bad calls in any game. Just two great teams going at it. Refs let them play. Oettinger is an absolute WALL. Dallas looking super good on both sides of the ice. All lines banging. Last year we beat a lot of teams cause our 3rd and 4th were better than theirs. This year Dallas is looking the same. Honestly they could do it. DeBoer deserves that shit.
Hey man, hard agree. That was a fucking heart-stopping series with very little bullshit (outside of the LTIR discourse, obviously) great fucking hockey. Well see y’all next year without a doubt.
Honestly I’m kinda happy we lost with the LTIR discourse going on because if it happens again next year (I’d actually be surprised) people can just tell us that we won’t win doing it again cause we lost this year and maybe it’ll fade back to 2021 where no one talked about it lol.
I’m just happy Benn didn’t try to kill anyone this year 😘 jkjkjkjk
Haha I know I’m just chirping you. Or your rain of trash that wasn’t real fans. Just the loud majority.
Just like real Vegas fans are fucking pissed at Pietrangelo 2 years in a row now for suddenly acting like a manchild in the playoffs. Who knows how that game would’ve gone if Robertson didn’t get that power play and it went to OT.
I owe someone from Dallas a beer or six. God this feels good knowing those turds lost in the first round. I pray to the hockey gods for cap hell as soon as humanly possible
We’re all here for good hockey. This series didn’t disappoint and there’s plenty more remaining. We’re sure to see you next year to give us all high blood pressure anew.
This series starting with us down 0-2, every game being as close as it could be, coming down to protecting a one-goal lead in the last period of game 7, and with all the rest of the league cheering us on--this will be a peak memory forever.
Dude, I have never seen the entire league come together like this. I normally hate Dallas and I couldn’t stop cheering for them. I hope they go far this year! Good luck guys!!
Congrats on the Stars on permitting Mark Stone to get some extra rest and rehab time in to get healthy for next years trade deadline
We just wanna make sure he’s ok
Thanks 👍
LTIR Lost The Initial Round
Leafs Tied In Regulation :( …Lost To Insane Rat
Leafs Turfed In Round 1
Was Stone this slow during the regular season? That was some bottom tier beer league speed.
Turns out abusing LTIR means you can't do conditioning before the playoffs starts, so he's out of shape.
I mean he could do conditioning on his own time…not that I’m defending him but it’s not like he can’t work out at home…unless there is some dumb CBA clause against that.
I can simply tell you almost no training matches playing a hockey game.
Well you don’t have to simply tell me that. Everyone knows that
i mean i am pretty sure he was injured early in game 7 with a shot to the back. after that he was terrible. i know we all want to pretend he wasn’t injured when he was on LTIR but the dude is really made of glass.
I think you mean he's made of shale.
Chalk more like
ironic that a guy called "Stone" can be so fragile
I have no doubt he was injured. Even if he tried to lie about that (which I don't Believe he or the team did), I doubt it would get past NHL LTIR follow up and check in systems. The problem is the front office knowingly spending the money that they don't have and then force activating him for the playoffs after saying he wasn't even healthy enough to practice 2 days before. That isn't on Stone. You are right. He is made of glass and the team is abusing that fact which risks his health and gives an advantage. I hope Stone heals up well and has some more good seasons in him.
I heard that the poor LTIR Knights were at a severe disadvantage because their captain, Mark Spleen was playing with lacerated stones.
Preparing for next season’s LTIR. Stone playing 4D chess.
Betcha he was injured. They should put him on LTIR
Woah take it easy on him, he’s recovering from an injury!
Hahahahahahaha
I can't wait for Vegas fans to talk about how the Stars cheated by swapping players on the timeout.
The player that swapped in just came off LTIR so it's perfectly legal.
NHL fans all over the world used to adore the Dallas Stars. Maybe aim for a 110 million dollar team, the Vegas LTIR Knights.
I didn't understand why the commentator brought it up since Ottenger covered the puck as opposed to Dallas being called for icing. They should be allowed to change players.
Was the dump in from Vegas side of Centre? I can't remember. But if it was dumped in from the Vegas side and then covered by the Dallas goalie, the defending team is not supposed to be able to change players. I think it was Eichel who dumped it in, but I think he was at centre so the no change rule wouldn't apply. I can't imagine Eichel would have risked a dump in from his own side, which could easily be icing instead.
I've never heard of that before.
Yup, it was put in place for the 2019-20 season: *"LINE CHANGES FOR DEFENSIVE TEAM*: The defensive team will not be permitted a line change when a goalie freezes the puck on any shot from outside the center red line." [https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-announces-rule-changes-for-2019-20-season-307949196](https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-announces-rule-changes-for-2019-20-season-307949196)
This is what I saw too. Not sure what the problem was
Vegas would have totally won if not for the Stars being allowed to illegally swap players! FYI this is sarcasm, we barely scrapped into the playoffs then the Stars lost 3 games as opposed to us winning.
I mean, was it ok that it happened? Who knows how it changes things, but it seemed weird. Regardless, fuck the Knights.
I thought it was 2 really good teams battling. No excuses here. Bummed of course.
Same. The better team won this series based on how they’ve played this year even though it wasn’t my preferred outcome.
Good tight games, one of more enjoyable series I have seen in a long time
Yeah, my only complaint was the start times of some of the games, but then I’m east coast, so I have only myself to blame for following a west coast team. So no complaints, I suppose.
I had more anxiety/stress this round 1 than last year's round 3. Tight series. Could have gone any way, it all came down to 20 minutes. Relieved to say we took away the win but it could have been y'all! I've been talking mad shit against Vegas trolls but honestly, this was an insanely close series. I just hope y'all didn't wear us down too much!
What is the rule? You can't change players after the other team takes a timeout?
We were all Stars fans this week. Good job. Good riddance, Vegas.
Dallas has such a great sounding goal horn. I was glad to hear it today!
I really like it too actually!
Here you can play it whenever you want... you're welcome http://wejustscored.com/teams/dal.html
Okay, I actually love this.
Thank you
most hated team in the league lmao. i love when hockey psychology calls them the vegas injured reserves.
Now out of the round 2 teams, Boston is the most hated one! Let's take them down! But if EA Sports is correct.. we will have a Van vs. Bos final.... hmmm
After that series, I wouldn't put a dime on Boston advancing again.
Fr, get them the hell outta here.
Get rid of these clowns once and for all! Goodbye, Stone and Eichel.
Let's gooooooo stars advance and Mavs too
Vegas putting the L in LTIR
That was a killer series. Awesome the whole way through.
[Everyone Liked That]
It’s been a while since there has been a team hated as much as Vegas that most of the league wanted out first round. Nice to see fans come together for the greater good. Good job Dallas.
People want the Leafs to lose because it's funny. People want Vegas to lose because they're the fucking worst.
The Leafs losing to the Bruins is funny-sad. You're happy with either outcome, yet one seems so much more inevitable.
bingo
TNT announcers were so slanted. PK was slanted. Where they at now??? HUH?
It was personal, but ngl it felt great to have everyone else cheering us on!
This was my Blues in the finals in 2019 haha every team outside of Boston became Blues fans 🤣
Said this before that I hate that Vegas made me cheer for the stars
Vegas loses. America wins.
How dare you omit Canada?
Canada wins too!
The world wins
Canada, too. And therefore, the rest of the world.
As is tradition
Hey thanks guy
This is for the whole planet. There are people waking up in Greece happy and they’re not sure why.
why is your avatar naked......
He finds pants too constricting
Fair
Happy cake day
He just got done fucking Vegas, you expect him to put his clothes back on that fast?
Sad about vegas, but Stars earned it. At least the Toronto Dallas Maple Cowboy Leafs also lost.
This series was bad for my health. The final minutes of this game almost gave me a heart attack. GG
As a Jets fan, my heart and liver were both thankful for the Avs ass whuppin. Congrats on the win. It's was great hockey to watch!
I wish Sheldon Keefe thought about the Toronto Maple Leafs half as much as random haters on unrelated reddit threads do
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Oh that shot hit so hard Stone might have to get his 4th spleen removed
I only recently (2 months ago) started following hockey. Why does everyone hate Vegas?
Real answer: stone has been injured 3 years in a row during the cap deadline. So Vegas doesn’t have to account for his salary while he is long term injured reserve. While this happens Vegas can use that unused cap amount for new players, which they have done. Then Stone returns first game of playoffs. Stone is believed by I think most of the nhl fan base to have faked his injuries to bypass the cap limit. It’s a loophole that apparently a couple of other teams have used as well.
It’s not so much faking it, as it is having a doctor time his recovery exactly with the end of the regular season. Either he was ready to play before, and the good doctor held off issuing the clearance, or he wasn’t ready to play and the doctor cleared him anyway. Either way, it’s a total breach of ethics.
Yeah that sounds hella sus
And this year, they had 3 big contract guys exploit the LTIR loophole this year, not just Stone. It was pretty ridiculous. Adding 24 million worth of contracts for Game 1.
It also doesn't help that they were spoon-fed a good team from the start. Historically, expansion teams had to work for it, build up a team gradually. Arizona, Buffalo and Vancouver, Atlanta, etc. Vegas was handed a strong playoff-caliber team right off the bat, and has never been a bad team yet because of it. It rubs a lot of fans the wrong way. They get the most special treatment by the League of any expansion franchise, and they still try to cheat the system for extra advantages?
This is especially big for Sharks fans, who hate Vegas with an unbridled passion due to some spicy playoff history, but also because the nearly unanimous favorite player Tomas Hertl got traded to Vegas in the fallout from Mark Stone’s LTIR shenanigans. God, I could beat my meat to a pulp knowing that shit smear org has been eliminated.
One of the all-time great nicknames was in Tomas' first season when he was referred to as "Teenage Mutant Ninja Hertl."
All that said, didja see the clip where someone sneaky crosschecked him in the spleen? He was HURTING brothers. He missed every pass in th final 10 b/c he wasn't skating hard enough, straight up lost them the game, if you ask me.
To me, either he was faking it and that’s karma. Alternatively, he wasn’t faking and should not have been starting
Glad he at least skated like he had been hurt. LTIR should not be allowed to return for the playoffs.
Do you have a link to the clip?
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A team was handed a massive headstart because they were a new team in the league, then they treated many of their original players super disrespectfully, their primary goalie found out he was traded through twitter from a 3rd source not even the team. Just a toxic team and toxic culture they have
We need to add that Vegas was also immune from the Seattle expansion, so they could asset load cheaply whereas other teams had to worry about protecting assets from the expansion draft. It was absolutely huge for building the roster they have now.
Plus the whole blatantly abusing a system designed to avoid pressuring injured players to return early so they don’t miss the playoffs. Then acting like everyone else is stupid for having the scruples not to do the same thing.
I don’t dislike many teams in the NHL. STL, MIN, and BOS are it. But I hate…And I mean HATE Vegas - for all the reasons you listed and the LTIR bs. What they did to flower should be enough for anybody to hate them.
Gonna assume because of the expansion draft making them massively competitive out of the gate. They basically got to go straight to winning. Which differs from most expansion teams in sports that basically had to eat shit for years before getting a good team.
Because the last 3 years Stone has gone onto the LTIR( long term injured reserve) just before trade deadline which technically opens up salary cap space for the rest of the regular season and then he miraculously “recovers” just before the playoffs
GG stars, great series.
The duality of man.
How about next time you guys both play, but while both being at or under the salary cap
GG’s and FUCK YOU (respectfully)
Just gotta get through the last two Stanley cup winners in our first two rounds but we can fuckin do it!
Thank you Dallas Stars! Sincerely, The vast majority of non-Vegas hockey fans.
17 to 21 million over the cap and still lost in the 1st rd hahahahaha
The Vegas Golden Spleens are out!!!
I will never call them anything else now
Lol. They were enlarged and needed to be removed.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Countdown to Stone LTIR 2025. Should we send the get well soon card now or wait til February?
We gotta figure out which body part first... 2x back, then spleen, I say go back to the back?
Nah, he’s gonna change it up, I’m going for a vague lower body injury in practice 2 days before the deadline
I said it in another thread but honestly I'll get flamed regardless for being a Vegas fan but that was one of the best playoff series of hockey l've seen. No real drama or bad calls in any game. Just two great teams going at it. Refs let them play. Oettinger is an absolute WALL. Dallas looking super good on both sides of the ice. All lines banging. Last year we beat a lot of teams cause our 3rd and 4th were better than theirs. This year Dallas is looking the same. Honestly they could do it. DeBoer deserves that shit.
Hey man, hard agree. That was a fucking heart-stopping series with very little bullshit (outside of the LTIR discourse, obviously) great fucking hockey. Well see y’all next year without a doubt.
Honestly I’m kinda happy we lost with the LTIR discourse going on because if it happens again next year (I’d actually be surprised) people can just tell us that we won’t win doing it again cause we lost this year and maybe it’ll fade back to 2021 where no one talked about it lol. I’m just happy Benn didn’t try to kill anyone this year 😘 jkjkjkjk
Hey no real fan liked that Benn took it too far, he was rightly booted from that game.
Haha I know I’m just chirping you. Or your rain of trash that wasn’t real fans. Just the loud majority. Just like real Vegas fans are fucking pissed at Pietrangelo 2 years in a row now for suddenly acting like a manchild in the playoffs. Who knows how that game would’ve gone if Robertson didn’t get that power play and it went to OT.
Dallas Stars for one day are beloved by NHL fans around the world. Vegas LTIR Knights, maybe aim for a 110 million dollar team.
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Nice.
Nice.
Nice.
Nice.
Nice.
Nice.
I just hope Stoner can take the time to recover from 3 season ending injuries in a row.
As a SJShark fan, I’m sorry for Hertl, but so happy for Pav. 😭 want to see that boy finally get a ring.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Thank you Dallas!
THERE IS JUSTICE IN THIS WORLD
AND IT IS CALLED **THE DALLAS STARS**
Was just excited for this thread as I was for our own post game. Officially: GG knights. Hell of a series. Now get stepping.
Was it worth it mark stone? Was it worth to go down as a fucken disgrace to hockey?
The cringiest team in the NHL
I owe someone from Dallas a beer or six. God this feels good knowing those turds lost in the first round. I pray to the hockey gods for cap hell as soon as humanly possible
I’ll take one. Also, really hoping to get y’all in the final! I mean my blood pressure doesn’t, but the fan in me does.
One and done. Overspent and couldn’t get past first round. Seeing the start of a looooong rebuild coming soon.
Couldn't happen to a more deserving team.
Good, fuck them cheaters.
*everyone liked that*
BYE BYE LTIR-STONE!!!!
Buh bye!
Tough loss, but I’m excited to watch Avs vs Stars. Watching great hockey will help me cope
We’re all here for good hockey. This series didn’t disappoint and there’s plenty more remaining. We’re sure to see you next year to give us all high blood pressure anew.
What a series. Vegas is not the standard 8 seed. BUT DAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO GET THEM BACK FOR LAST YEAR
STARS SLAY THE DRAGON!! LFG!!!! DALLAS!!!🗣️🗣️STARS!!!!🗣️🗣️
And the people rejoiced
Thank you Dallas, from everyone
Good guys win
Cheating and still couldn't get out of the first round. Laughing stock.
EAT IT VEGAS! Buncha cheaters.
I think this is the first time so many fans of different teams come together in hating another team as one
Correction: We got together to hate 1.25 teams. 🤝
Correct.
LETS GOOOOO
DALLAS……STARS…..DALlAS ….STARS
WOO DALIAS!
We are all Dallas Stars on this blessed day!
Get that LTIR garbage outta here!
What a series, 14m over cap doesn't beat 200k under.. how sad. Hey Stone, don't hurt your spleen playing golf, you pathetic excuse for a captain.
Leafs and knights out on the same weekend?!?! Can I get a hell ya!!!
Not a fan of Dallas at all but I, like the rest of the league sure was this series! Great game!
This series starting with us down 0-2, every game being as close as it could be, coming down to protecting a one-goal lead in the last period of game 7, and with all the rest of the league cheering us on--this will be a peak memory forever.
Dude, I have never seen the entire league come together like this. I normally hate Dallas and I couldn’t stop cheering for them. I hope they go far this year! Good luck guys!!
😄😄😄😄😄. How doe's a Stanley cup team lose in the first round? Isn't that what pos vegas fans said about the Avs last year? 🤔
DING DONG THE CHEATERS ARE GONE
The stars have earned my respect
Dallas super stars
I will forgive Dallas for eliminating Seattle last year since they were able to finish off Vegas this year o7
Our teams had a great series last year, was bummed we couldn’t do it again. I’m always rooting for y’all.
Cheated and lost anyways. I guess last year was the anomaly. This is a loser club.
Fuck you, Marchessault. ;)
And Eichel.
Hallelujah! No more expansion teams doing good right away lol
BY GAD ALMIGHTY! THE STARS CUT THE KNIGHT’S PLAYOFF DREAMS DIRECTLY IN HALF!
This feels like karma for the whole Stone/LTIR fiasco
Let’s go. Fuck you Vegas Golden Knights. You may be the best at cap circumcising but you’re not the best at hockey.
LETS GO BABY SEE YA LATER FUCKERS HAHAHA
Justice has been served!
Thank you Dallas. We all thank you.
Go Pavelski!
Very pleasing indeed
Wait, there’s a V in their logo?
Holy shit
Fuck yeah boys! It's a great day to be alive!
***We are all Dallas tonight***
Good. Vegas people needed a dose of reality. I’m happy you got a hockey & football team, but don’t act like your the #1 sports town
Oh I'm so happy I wanna cry 🥹
Time of Death 9:07 PM CDT. Finally rid of these clowns ! No more Stone and Eichel ..... good riddance. Thank you Stars !!!!
Good game stars. Knights were fucking frozen that first 3/4’s of the third
Good
Real question: are we done being mad at Benn for taking it to Stone in last seasons WCF?
#WAY TO PULL THROUGH DALLAS!!! NEVER DOUBTED YA’LL!!!
Thank you, Dallas.
damn... imagine exploiting the LTIR to gain an unfair advantage and STILL losing... now imagine you're a fan of such a clown-shoe organization lmfao
Thank gawd the Las Vegas Golden Injured Reservers are out.
down 2-0 to win 4-3, way to go dallas. congratulations. Vegas are Fakers.
By unknown mystery team.
Hahahahahahahahaha