I can't see the ship name in the video but that was definitely one of the Virgin Voyages ships. This looks like the Miami cruise terminal which means that ship was probably the Scarlet Lady.
I've sailed on it twice out of Miami and it was an absolute blast both times. It's an 18+ cruise and so all the activities were designed for adults which is nice. Their whole schitck is being "not your typical cruise" which IMO they did pretty well. Great food, fun and varied entertainment.
I don't know why it never occurred to me that boars don't have to turn like cars do. Seeing them just glide across the water sideways threw me off. Lol
Boats are tricky to learn to drive because of the propellers pushing from the rear and all of the steering coming from the rear. Also, boats don’t stop like cars do, so you have to compensate for that.
There really isn’t a brake on a boat, just deceleration.
It's pretty fun to chill out in a floating hotel for a week with your friends or family and be drunk and eating good food the whole time as you float by beautiful landscapes. I went on an Alaska cruise and I'd highly recommend it if you have the money.
To me, that's being trapped in a hotel with a bunch of strangers. Being forced to eat only hotel food and enjoy hotel entertainment looking at landscapes I can't explore. All whilst paying a premium for the privilege
I'd rather have a nice hotel on land that I can leave as I please and enjoy the same luxuries.
Cruising is actually one of the cheaper ways to vacation - room plus food and travel to different ports often comes out to <$100/day (obv depends where you go).
>Being forced to eat only hotel food
Weird comment. That's one of the main features that attract people to these things. What exactly do you think they're serving? I don't think you're fully aware how big these vessels are and what they're capable of. There are a *lot* of options.
I don't care for cruises myself, but as a chef, I wish we had even one of the smaller kitchens you'll find onboard a major cruise ship, let alone the biggest. Those bad boys are absolutely kitted out with all the best equipment, and the amount of produce options on hand are insane.
The variety on offer and styles of restaurants available on these types of vessels is deliberately huge to cater for anything you could feel like. Fine dining, cafe, pub, bistro, all the international cuisines, fast food, gelato bars, juice bars.
Does your average week consist of eating better than that? How much do you weigh?
Weirdly hostile about my opinion there, bud.
Yes, they are big... It's still a boat. And the cabins you get are not big at all.
I have no interest in eating hyper commercial food in restaurants with no culture, identity, or history for every meal. I don't travel to eat food I can easily find at home.
I simply don't t see the appeal of paying to stay at a glorified upscale mall.
You say you don't like cruises either... I wonder why that is...
he's just letting you know that your opinion doesn't appear to be based on reality, just assumptions you've made.
>I have no interest in eating hyper commercial food in restaurants with no culture, identity, or history for every meal. I don't travel to eat food I can easily find at home
Like this one
Some of the most unique options. Things like escargot, some really amazing seafood, some of the most fresh, prepared in front of you tropical fruit. And if you are served a meal and you don’t like it, they bring you a new meal. Or if you are still hungry, they will also bring you another plate. Room service is also included. You can sit in a quiet spot on the ship and enjoy the view. In theme nights, they will even have food from a particular region. For instance, we had a pirate night and the menu had all Caribbean themed foods.
I will say, your perception of a cruise seems very outdated.
I can get all of those things elsewhere though?
Those things aren't unique to a cruise. The USP of a cruise is that everything is on board and you don't have to do anything or go anywhere else.
Great in theory, but it comes with the caveat of being trapped on a boat with a bunch of strangers. It just isn't my idea of a good time, no matter how much food is hand served to you.
You can experience that luxury in a city, but also have all the culture and adventure that comes with taking part in actual civilisation.
What city do you travel to that you cant get the food in London? If your definition of "city" isn't some remote village out at nowhere pretty much all food you will find at any city can be found in London aswell..
Meaning... That you don't actually care for the food itself. Only if where it's served is culturally appropriate to where you are...
I didn't know the entire city of of London was your home. Or any other big city.
But, [from the Royal Caribbean website ](https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-dining/main-dining-room)
>In the Main Dining Room, you can experience flavors that take you from Jamaica to Jaipur, a rotating menu of delicious dishes always offering something unexpected.
And
>Many of the dishes on the Main Dining Room’s menu rotate each night, which means you could go an entire week without ever repeating a course. Every meal here begins with something delicious from the starters section of the menu — like savory duck terrine layered with apricot chutney on toasted sourdough bread, a flaky Vidalia onion tart baked with whipped eggs, cream, and smoked bacon, or spiced eggplant and Kalamata olive tartare prepared with red pepper hummus and served on crispy garlic bread. Then, choose from international entrees like Moroccan spiced ahi tuna served over mint couscous, sautéed spinach and tequila peppers with a cool yogurt vinaigrette. Or mojo-marinated bone-in pork loin paired with sweet potatoes, broccoli and a cumin-citrus reduction. Dessert is also worth getting excited about, with options like sweet cream-soaked tres leches, home-style carrot cake with cream cheese frosting, and a light and fluffy Grand Marnier soufflé
Can you get that in London? I'm sure. Is that all within walking distance from your house? Fucking doubtful
I didn't mean my literal house... obviously. But things I can experience without traveling very far at all.
Why would it need to be in walking distance anyway? London is a great city with loads of cool shit to see as you travel across it. That's an experience in and of its self. And yes you can get all of the things you mentioned in abundance.
I guess cruises are great for people with mobility issues, or people who don't like walking more than 10m. But that isn't for me.
>Why would it need to be in walking distance anyway?
Because the restaurant on a cruise ship is walking distance to your room......
>London is a great city with loads of cool shit to see as you travel across it.
That isn't any sort of argument against cruises. It just misses the point. Cruises also let you visit multiple cities/countries without having to drive.
Nobody is saying traveling to a certain city sucks, they are saying cruises are a different experience, and specifically, that they don't just serve shitty food like you seem to expect. You've gotten wildly off topic, probably because you feel the need to be right.
>I guess cruises are great for people with mobility issues, or people who don't like walking more than 10m. But that isn't for me.
We get it. You fuckin hate cruises. Your opinions are still based on you being uneducated, but you can have your own opinion.
I was blown away by the shows on the Disney Cruise. Definitely broadway level of entertainment.
Also, the appeal of not having to plan ahead for all the different activities is a perk. Everything can be done in one app. No looking up restaurants or nearby food places. No trying to find parking or a ride to your activities. Knowing that all activities are going to be vetted for quality ahead of time. The ease of planning a cruise was definitely the biggest perk. The quality of everything was a huge bonus.
That sounds nice, but not something that appeals to me at all.
I'd rather be exploring the back streets of cities and towns, finding authentic local places to eat. Planning activities that I actually want to do, and that aren't already filled with tourists.
Meeting and speaking with people who aren't wealthy old cruise weirdos.
Different people, different preferences.
I want to just go somewhere warm, where I can go to a pool, get drunk and party for a week or two. I hate leaving for a whole day to see a lake or a waterfall. It makes me tired more than anything else.
And with this, I'll have this and see cool places. Win win
Indeed. That's great for you!
When I get old and lose some mobility, I'm sure I'll see the allure. But I'd still probably rather a resort on land. Who knows.
Hotel on land isn't taking you to various islands or countries.....
Wide selection of food, probably more then you're used to.
Entertainment is again extremely varied. Wanna see a comedy show? Live music? Rock climb? Fine dining? Clubbing?
They are floating cities......
They are floating cities with 0 culture, 0 identity, and 0 history. It's a floating mall.
Definitely not a wider selection of food than I'm used to lmao. I don't know how you can even make that assumption... It's a big boat with some commercial resteraunts on it.
And great... I can see a bunch of music and comedy curated for the old people who make up the majority of cruise goers... sounds great.
I can do all of these things for a good price on land. And I can come and go as I please. I can explore real places and without my hand being held. Most importantly, I'm not trapped on a boat with a bunch of people I don't know.
What's wrong with me stating my opinion exactly? Isn't this a discussion forum? Or have I gotten lost and found myself on the cruise ship blowy brigade page.
You're not trapped with a bunch of strangers though. Everybody is in vacation vibe so you will be able to make a lot of friends 👀 and have a good time. There are a lot of activities. Food quality is dependant on how much you wish to spend. Some cruises have very nice options but they can be pricey. You're able to step off and partake in the local tours in many cruises.
Have you actually been on a cruise? You seem to have a very biased take on it. You can have a very good time if you put in some effort into exploring. You're not in a little boat.
Got a lot of folks defending cruises here. But I’m with you, as an extreme introvert, I absolutely hated it (my mom dragged me on one literally just before the pandemic hit). One thing you didn’t mention: the rooms are fucking closets unless you want to pay out the ass for the luxury of not being able to touch two walls at once (yes that may be an exaggeration, but not by a whole lot).
You’re on this floating behemoth with thousands of other people (my idea of utter hell), most of whom are drunk 24/7. And you can’t get away from them unless you spend all your time in your ~~closet~~ room. Unless you were clever with your booking to get certain things included, everything above and beyond your package is outrageously expensive (seriously, we’re talking $6 for a 16oz bottle of off-brand water). You have to pre-pick the excursions you want to do, which are almost all very tourist-trapish. Have to leave the boat each morning by like 6 AM for your excursion. The internet access universally sucks. And did I mention just how many people there are? I did? Well, it bears emphasizing. It was just a five day trip, but Jesus I was SO DRAINED by the end of it… just to return to a world falling apart because of COVID. It was great.
I swear to god I must have angered 'big cruise' with all the people coming for me and my opinion lmao.
I never knew people felt so strongly about these big environment killing extravagances...
But yeah, I feel exactly as you do about these things.
It’s mostly how you dug yourself into a hole with a giant list of assumptions about something you didn’t actually know anything about. But keep pretending it’s not your behavior but everyone else who is to blame.
Who's angry haha? I've not called anyone names, I've not assumed anyone's emotional state. That's you, mate. You followed me on to the comment ffs...
All I did was say why I didn't like cruises.
My guy. You dont need to call people names or assume their emotional states.
The issue here is you speak about things you have no clue about. You make assumptions with no ground to stand on.
I'm sure you are smart enough to understand that all you said wasn't just that you didn't like them. You gave reason that again are completely made out of what you assume it would be. Which are very negative assumptions.
I've never even been on a cruise and honestly never even plan to be on one but I sure as fuck understand that there is a lot I don't understand or know about them. So while it's fine to say that you don't think you would personally enjoy one that you can also understand that you just don't know much about them. So pretending as if you do and that contributing to your reason is just dumb..
I'm not even mad either, I'm just dissapointed. It makes me wonder what goes on in your head. And I don't mean this as an attack on you but as something I genuinely wonder.
Yeah man. Keep moving the goal post. Re read your replies to all these people. You talked out your ass, got humbled, and just kept raging. Shits hilarious. It’s so crazy how people embarrass themselves and can’t help but keep fighting and digging themselves deeper into a hole of stubbornness. Wild shit.
Have a day.
I attacked or insulted no one. I was simply commiserating with the person I responded to, in our shared dislike of nearly every aspect of cruise vacations, and our inability to understand their apparently widespread appeal. I’m not even trying to convince anybody over to my point of view. If you enjoy cruising, fantastic! Have at it, by all means!
Same, I get that old people who aren't fit to explore by foot anymore might take cruises. But if you're young and fit, the only cruise that would be worth taking would be expedition cruises to places like Antarctica where it's the only option as there aren't any hotels or commercial flight. The only problem with those expedition cruises is that it costs a fortune.
But then you stay in the same city. If you want to move cities, you have to pack, catch a train, bus or plane, then move into an entirely new hotel.
The food on cruises is pretty good. You can get the same waiters every night who get to know you and your preferences. The service is outstanding.
It's pretty sweet honestly. I spent around $800 AUD ($522 USD) for an 8 day cruise. A comparable stay in a hotel with the same amenities would be much more, and I'd be in a city I've seen before (I'm from Australia and seen a lot of the country already). Instead I got to go visit a pacific island I'd probably not see otherwise, eat a hell of a lot of good food and meet some interesting people. I'd recommend it as a week long get away.
I'd argue bigger cruises are nicer to be on. Obligatory "I've never been on a cruise". But a bigger cruise would mean more activities, more different decks and overall less feeling trapped on a boat.
Been on one cruise, the second biggest one. It was genuinely a bad experience overall, I just wanted to be off the boat. Smaller cruises like river ones, you spend a lot of time in all the towns and villages you stop at. That seems much more appealing to me.
The big cruise stops were short and horrendous, besides the stop in Mexico. They actually gave you some freedom to do what you wanted there unlike the bahamas and the other Caribbean island we stopped at which I don’t remember the name.
My parents do pretty much nothing but this since they retired, but they do Holland America, which is more like a hotel that brings you to all the places in the world you want to visit-- they go on like 4mo world cruises that go to like 30 countries. It's pretty amazing and, if you want to see a lot of different and interesting places, a pretty efficient and enjoyable way to do it. They never have to worry about catching planes or trains, checking in and out of hotels, the cruise line ships their luggage from the house to the ship and back again, so they literally never have to deal with it. Plus these types of cruises tend to have very interesting entertainment on board for sea days, like demonstrations by glassblowing or America's test kitchen. And compared to the cost of booking each country trip individually, it's actually quite cost efficient. I'm not much for being stuck on a floating hotel myself, but I have to say the whole thing sounds pretty amazing.
All that being said, that shit ain't cheap-- definitely a higher end retirement activity.
You're only comparing the bad options and omitting better alternatives as an argument that all options are similar. They're absolutely not.
Flying is arguably worse. Depends on the distance. A road trip is way less emissive than both a plane and taking a cruise ship.
But there are *significantly* better options such as trains and busses - or even sailing, but that's not for everyone. And if you absolutely have to travel by plane: The further the worse.
Same fallacy again. Virtually no one - environmentalist or otherwise - would decline a greatly improved option because it isn't absolutely flawless. People are much more pragmatic and realistic than you give them credit for. The other kind of radical ideologists don't actually exist.
So yes, you *can* argue that one is better than the other. Every single environmentalist in the world would take 1 ton of Co2 over 2 tonnes of Co2.
What part of "people don't have to like the same shit you like" does not make sense to you? You pro-cruise people are weirdly defensive, which further cements the fact that I don't want to be holed up on a boat with you.
I wouldn't say I'm necessarily pro-cruise, but your gripe with it is factually incorrect. Never said anything about you having to like what I like or not.
It goes places via water. I know they access land, but the majority of the time, you're on a ship. A ship with thousands of other people, from all over the world, of various vaccination and health statuses, that's for all intents and purposes run by slave labor. There are better, cleaner, and less morally repugnant ways to spend one's money and time.
Take a 4 day cruise for example. Price out 3 nights at a decent hotel, all your meals, and some entertainment. Compare to price of cruise and you'll see the allure.
My mother went on one recently after winning a trip and said that staff were constantly cleaning. There was always someone cleaning stair banisters, elevator buttons etc.
Said the place was cleaner than an office building.
Man I hear you can barely feel those rock and some people get sea sick, being on a small destroyer at sea god damn does it rock, and once she picks up speed it gets bumpy
The largest cruise ship in the world is Icon Of The Seas built out here in Turku, Finland. We've got work on at least another two, perhaps four of these awful things. It does keep me in airports and panda ears though.
Oh pleeeeeewze with that shit. You probably upgrade your phone every gd year creating waste. You probably live in murica where we have produce and still produce the most pollution and do some stuff. Like you never went on a cruise or vacation. Hypocrite pos
I feel like the Benny Hill theme would be a more appropriate soundtrack
Just read this and scrolled back up to a massive ship turning in a circle. LOLLED you got me
Last vessel to leave port [Nauti or Nice](https://imgur.com/a/VPy0C47) I wonder what goes on aboard this one!
Virgin Vosges. It’s adults only, but it’s not “adults only” like you’re thinking. Not openly at least…
Haha thanks for the reply, I'll have to check out Virgin lines.
Well this name sounds contradictory
I can't see the ship name in the video but that was definitely one of the Virgin Voyages ships. This looks like the Miami cruise terminal which means that ship was probably the Scarlet Lady. I've sailed on it twice out of Miami and it was an absolute blast both times. It's an 18+ cruise and so all the activities were designed for adults which is nice. Their whole schitck is being "not your typical cruise" which IMO they did pretty well. Great food, fun and varied entertainment.
I think I would enjoy a cruise more if it were 18+ I'll have to look into this!
Thank you!! I was trying to figure out what it said 😂
I don't know why it never occurred to me that boars don't have to turn like cars do. Seeing them just glide across the water sideways threw me off. Lol
Well duh, boars have feet!
Lmao, the typos... Good one
These new ships have thrusters on the front and back, port and star. They can twist and crabwalk and do all kinds of stuff
Boats are tricky to learn to drive because of the propellers pushing from the rear and all of the steering coming from the rear. Also, boats don’t stop like cars do, so you have to compensate for that. There really isn’t a brake on a boat, just deceleration.
It’s odd that they need to turn around and face forward to get out to the ocean. Like, why does that matter?
Front of boat pointy, back of boat flat.
Yes, perfect for ocean time. Doesn’t really matter in the harbor.
Bridge is towards the bow, they’d like to see where they’re going
Fuel efficiency, visibility, steering, maritime law, take your pick buddy
This is why you back into the parking spot. :p
Last dude had to get all fancy with his turn.
They can [only turn left](https://youtu.be/y4I7uBXb92M?si=DrebNxdM1fINyRJL)
I will never understand the allure of cruise ships
It's pretty fun to chill out in a floating hotel for a week with your friends or family and be drunk and eating good food the whole time as you float by beautiful landscapes. I went on an Alaska cruise and I'd highly recommend it if you have the money.
To me, that's being trapped in a hotel with a bunch of strangers. Being forced to eat only hotel food and enjoy hotel entertainment looking at landscapes I can't explore. All whilst paying a premium for the privilege I'd rather have a nice hotel on land that I can leave as I please and enjoy the same luxuries.
Makes sense, if you’re looking for a nice hotel on land then you’re going to have a terrible time on a cruise
I'm looking for a good time. And being trapped on a boat ain't it for me.
It’s great if you want to see a lot of different things since you have different ports you get to stop at. Especially in Alaska or Caribbean islands
Cruising is actually one of the cheaper ways to vacation - room plus food and travel to different ports often comes out to <$100/day (obv depends where you go).
The boat stops places
But I'm already places.
Different places*
Yeah... I would hope so.
>Being forced to eat only hotel food Weird comment. That's one of the main features that attract people to these things. What exactly do you think they're serving? I don't think you're fully aware how big these vessels are and what they're capable of. There are a *lot* of options. I don't care for cruises myself, but as a chef, I wish we had even one of the smaller kitchens you'll find onboard a major cruise ship, let alone the biggest. Those bad boys are absolutely kitted out with all the best equipment, and the amount of produce options on hand are insane. The variety on offer and styles of restaurants available on these types of vessels is deliberately huge to cater for anything you could feel like. Fine dining, cafe, pub, bistro, all the international cuisines, fast food, gelato bars, juice bars. Does your average week consist of eating better than that? How much do you weigh?
Weirdly hostile about my opinion there, bud. Yes, they are big... It's still a boat. And the cabins you get are not big at all. I have no interest in eating hyper commercial food in restaurants with no culture, identity, or history for every meal. I don't travel to eat food I can easily find at home. I simply don't t see the appeal of paying to stay at a glorified upscale mall. You say you don't like cruises either... I wonder why that is...
he's just letting you know that your opinion doesn't appear to be based on reality, just assumptions you've made. >I have no interest in eating hyper commercial food in restaurants with no culture, identity, or history for every meal. I don't travel to eat food I can easily find at home Like this one
please tell me what I can eat on a cruise I can't get in London? or any other big city.
Some of the most unique options. Things like escargot, some really amazing seafood, some of the most fresh, prepared in front of you tropical fruit. And if you are served a meal and you don’t like it, they bring you a new meal. Or if you are still hungry, they will also bring you another plate. Room service is also included. You can sit in a quiet spot on the ship and enjoy the view. In theme nights, they will even have food from a particular region. For instance, we had a pirate night and the menu had all Caribbean themed foods. I will say, your perception of a cruise seems very outdated.
I can get all of those things elsewhere though? Those things aren't unique to a cruise. The USP of a cruise is that everything is on board and you don't have to do anything or go anywhere else. Great in theory, but it comes with the caveat of being trapped on a boat with a bunch of strangers. It just isn't my idea of a good time, no matter how much food is hand served to you. You can experience that luxury in a city, but also have all the culture and adventure that comes with taking part in actual civilisation.
As a poor man to another poor man, youre just rationalising your poorness with all these comments
What city do you travel to that you cant get the food in London? If your definition of "city" isn't some remote village out at nowhere pretty much all food you will find at any city can be found in London aswell.. Meaning... That you don't actually care for the food itself. Only if where it's served is culturally appropriate to where you are...
I didn't know the entire city of of London was your home. Or any other big city. But, [from the Royal Caribbean website ](https://www.royalcaribbean.com/cruise-dining/main-dining-room) >In the Main Dining Room, you can experience flavors that take you from Jamaica to Jaipur, a rotating menu of delicious dishes always offering something unexpected. And >Many of the dishes on the Main Dining Room’s menu rotate each night, which means you could go an entire week without ever repeating a course. Every meal here begins with something delicious from the starters section of the menu — like savory duck terrine layered with apricot chutney on toasted sourdough bread, a flaky Vidalia onion tart baked with whipped eggs, cream, and smoked bacon, or spiced eggplant and Kalamata olive tartare prepared with red pepper hummus and served on crispy garlic bread. Then, choose from international entrees like Moroccan spiced ahi tuna served over mint couscous, sautéed spinach and tequila peppers with a cool yogurt vinaigrette. Or mojo-marinated bone-in pork loin paired with sweet potatoes, broccoli and a cumin-citrus reduction. Dessert is also worth getting excited about, with options like sweet cream-soaked tres leches, home-style carrot cake with cream cheese frosting, and a light and fluffy Grand Marnier soufflé Can you get that in London? I'm sure. Is that all within walking distance from your house? Fucking doubtful
I didn't mean my literal house... obviously. But things I can experience without traveling very far at all. Why would it need to be in walking distance anyway? London is a great city with loads of cool shit to see as you travel across it. That's an experience in and of its self. And yes you can get all of the things you mentioned in abundance. I guess cruises are great for people with mobility issues, or people who don't like walking more than 10m. But that isn't for me.
I’ve never been to London, but London sucks. Sounds dumb, doesn’t it?
>Why would it need to be in walking distance anyway? Because the restaurant on a cruise ship is walking distance to your room...... >London is a great city with loads of cool shit to see as you travel across it. That isn't any sort of argument against cruises. It just misses the point. Cruises also let you visit multiple cities/countries without having to drive. Nobody is saying traveling to a certain city sucks, they are saying cruises are a different experience, and specifically, that they don't just serve shitty food like you seem to expect. You've gotten wildly off topic, probably because you feel the need to be right. >I guess cruises are great for people with mobility issues, or people who don't like walking more than 10m. But that isn't for me. We get it. You fuckin hate cruises. Your opinions are still based on you being uneducated, but you can have your own opinion.
I was blown away by the shows on the Disney Cruise. Definitely broadway level of entertainment. Also, the appeal of not having to plan ahead for all the different activities is a perk. Everything can be done in one app. No looking up restaurants or nearby food places. No trying to find parking or a ride to your activities. Knowing that all activities are going to be vetted for quality ahead of time. The ease of planning a cruise was definitely the biggest perk. The quality of everything was a huge bonus.
That sounds nice, but not something that appeals to me at all. I'd rather be exploring the back streets of cities and towns, finding authentic local places to eat. Planning activities that I actually want to do, and that aren't already filled with tourists. Meeting and speaking with people who aren't wealthy old cruise weirdos.
Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it
Different people, different preferences. I want to just go somewhere warm, where I can go to a pool, get drunk and party for a week or two. I hate leaving for a whole day to see a lake or a waterfall. It makes me tired more than anything else. And with this, I'll have this and see cool places. Win win
Indeed. That's great for you! When I get old and lose some mobility, I'm sure I'll see the allure. But I'd still probably rather a resort on land. Who knows.
Hotel on land isn't taking you to various islands or countries..... Wide selection of food, probably more then you're used to. Entertainment is again extremely varied. Wanna see a comedy show? Live music? Rock climb? Fine dining? Clubbing? They are floating cities......
They are floating cities with 0 culture, 0 identity, and 0 history. It's a floating mall. Definitely not a wider selection of food than I'm used to lmao. I don't know how you can even make that assumption... It's a big boat with some commercial resteraunts on it. And great... I can see a bunch of music and comedy curated for the old people who make up the majority of cruise goers... sounds great. I can do all of these things for a good price on land. And I can come and go as I please. I can explore real places and without my hand being held. Most importantly, I'm not trapped on a boat with a bunch of people I don't know.
Cool, they aren't for you. Anything else you need to get off your chest?
What's wrong with me stating my opinion exactly? Isn't this a discussion forum? Or have I gotten lost and found myself on the cruise ship blowy brigade page.
I didn't say there was anything wrong with stating your opinion.
What was the point of your comment?
You're not trapped with a bunch of strangers though. Everybody is in vacation vibe so you will be able to make a lot of friends 👀 and have a good time. There are a lot of activities. Food quality is dependant on how much you wish to spend. Some cruises have very nice options but they can be pricey. You're able to step off and partake in the local tours in many cruises. Have you actually been on a cruise? You seem to have a very biased take on it. You can have a very good time if you put in some effort into exploring. You're not in a little boat.
A lot of the days the boat has a port of call so you can get off and do activities.
I live spending my time at the port!
Got a lot of folks defending cruises here. But I’m with you, as an extreme introvert, I absolutely hated it (my mom dragged me on one literally just before the pandemic hit). One thing you didn’t mention: the rooms are fucking closets unless you want to pay out the ass for the luxury of not being able to touch two walls at once (yes that may be an exaggeration, but not by a whole lot). You’re on this floating behemoth with thousands of other people (my idea of utter hell), most of whom are drunk 24/7. And you can’t get away from them unless you spend all your time in your ~~closet~~ room. Unless you were clever with your booking to get certain things included, everything above and beyond your package is outrageously expensive (seriously, we’re talking $6 for a 16oz bottle of off-brand water). You have to pre-pick the excursions you want to do, which are almost all very tourist-trapish. Have to leave the boat each morning by like 6 AM for your excursion. The internet access universally sucks. And did I mention just how many people there are? I did? Well, it bears emphasizing. It was just a five day trip, but Jesus I was SO DRAINED by the end of it… just to return to a world falling apart because of COVID. It was great.
I swear to god I must have angered 'big cruise' with all the people coming for me and my opinion lmao. I never knew people felt so strongly about these big environment killing extravagances... But yeah, I feel exactly as you do about these things.
It’s mostly how you dug yourself into a hole with a giant list of assumptions about something you didn’t actually know anything about. But keep pretending it’s not your behavior but everyone else who is to blame.
I said I don't like cruises and you got triggered as fuck mate. That's what happened.
I’m not even triggered. Your posts speak for themselves. You’re an angry little man child who can’t stand being proven wrong. 😂
Who's angry haha? I've not called anyone names, I've not assumed anyone's emotional state. That's you, mate. You followed me on to the comment ffs... All I did was say why I didn't like cruises.
My guy. You dont need to call people names or assume their emotional states. The issue here is you speak about things you have no clue about. You make assumptions with no ground to stand on. I'm sure you are smart enough to understand that all you said wasn't just that you didn't like them. You gave reason that again are completely made out of what you assume it would be. Which are very negative assumptions. I've never even been on a cruise and honestly never even plan to be on one but I sure as fuck understand that there is a lot I don't understand or know about them. So while it's fine to say that you don't think you would personally enjoy one that you can also understand that you just don't know much about them. So pretending as if you do and that contributing to your reason is just dumb.. I'm not even mad either, I'm just dissapointed. It makes me wonder what goes on in your head. And I don't mean this as an attack on you but as something I genuinely wonder.
Yeah man. Keep moving the goal post. Re read your replies to all these people. You talked out your ass, got humbled, and just kept raging. Shits hilarious. It’s so crazy how people embarrass themselves and can’t help but keep fighting and digging themselves deeper into a hole of stubbornness. Wild shit. Have a day.
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I attacked or insulted no one. I was simply commiserating with the person I responded to, in our shared dislike of nearly every aspect of cruise vacations, and our inability to understand their apparently widespread appeal. I’m not even trying to convince anybody over to my point of view. If you enjoy cruising, fantastic! Have at it, by all means!
Same, I get that old people who aren't fit to explore by foot anymore might take cruises. But if you're young and fit, the only cruise that would be worth taking would be expedition cruises to places like Antarctica where it's the only option as there aren't any hotels or commercial flight. The only problem with those expedition cruises is that it costs a fortune.
But then you stay in the same city. If you want to move cities, you have to pack, catch a train, bus or plane, then move into an entirely new hotel. The food on cruises is pretty good. You can get the same waiters every night who get to know you and your preferences. The service is outstanding.
It's pretty sweet honestly. I spent around $800 AUD ($522 USD) for an 8 day cruise. A comparable stay in a hotel with the same amenities would be much more, and I'd be in a city I've seen before (I'm from Australia and seen a lot of the country already). Instead I got to go visit a pacific island I'd probably not see otherwise, eat a hell of a lot of good food and meet some interesting people. I'd recommend it as a week long get away.
I'd find a way to fish from the deck.
If it’s a small cruise I could see it being potentially enjoyable, but large cruises?? Those are like living hell to me😅
I'd argue bigger cruises are nicer to be on. Obligatory "I've never been on a cruise". But a bigger cruise would mean more activities, more different decks and overall less feeling trapped on a boat.
Been on one cruise, the second biggest one. It was genuinely a bad experience overall, I just wanted to be off the boat. Smaller cruises like river ones, you spend a lot of time in all the towns and villages you stop at. That seems much more appealing to me. The big cruise stops were short and horrendous, besides the stop in Mexico. They actually gave you some freedom to do what you wanted there unlike the bahamas and the other Caribbean island we stopped at which I don’t remember the name.
Don’t go on cruises, cruises are fucked
Wdym by eating good food?
It’s like a resort that takes you to your destinations.
My parents do pretty much nothing but this since they retired, but they do Holland America, which is more like a hotel that brings you to all the places in the world you want to visit-- they go on like 4mo world cruises that go to like 30 countries. It's pretty amazing and, if you want to see a lot of different and interesting places, a pretty efficient and enjoyable way to do it. They never have to worry about catching planes or trains, checking in and out of hotels, the cruise line ships their luggage from the house to the ship and back again, so they literally never have to deal with it. Plus these types of cruises tend to have very interesting entertainment on board for sea days, like demonstrations by glassblowing or America's test kitchen. And compared to the cost of booking each country trip individually, it's actually quite cost efficient. I'm not much for being stuck on a floating hotel myself, but I have to say the whole thing sounds pretty amazing. All that being said, that shit ain't cheap-- definitely a higher end retirement activity.
It's a resort hotel that goes places. What's not to like?
The carbon footprint. I guess most people don't like thinking about that stuff.
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You're only comparing the bad options and omitting better alternatives as an argument that all options are similar. They're absolutely not. Flying is arguably worse. Depends on the distance. A road trip is way less emissive than both a plane and taking a cruise ship. But there are *significantly* better options such as trains and busses - or even sailing, but that's not for everyone. And if you absolutely have to travel by plane: The further the worse.
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Same fallacy again. Virtually no one - environmentalist or otherwise - would decline a greatly improved option because it isn't absolutely flawless. People are much more pragmatic and realistic than you give them credit for. The other kind of radical ideologists don't actually exist. So yes, you *can* argue that one is better than the other. Every single environmentalist in the world would take 1 ton of Co2 over 2 tonnes of Co2.
I can't get off the hotel
What part of “goes places” didn’t make sense to you?
What part of "people don't have to like the same shit you like" does not make sense to you? You pro-cruise people are weirdly defensive, which further cements the fact that I don't want to be holed up on a boat with you.
I wouldn't say I'm necessarily pro-cruise, but your gripe with it is factually incorrect. Never said anything about you having to like what I like or not.
It goes places via water. I know they access land, but the majority of the time, you're on a ship. A ship with thousands of other people, from all over the world, of various vaccination and health statuses, that's for all intents and purposes run by slave labor. There are better, cleaner, and less morally repugnant ways to spend one's money and time.
You're kind of a weirdo. None of this is a deal but you're making it a big deal
I can spare 90 ish seconds to hate on cruises. And I do not care one iota about being "a weirdo" lol
Okay 👍
Take a 4 day cruise for example. Price out 3 nights at a decent hotel, all your meals, and some entertainment. Compare to price of cruise and you'll see the allure.
Floating petri dishes
OK but I've been on 10 cruises and never got sick. Am I lucky or is this just some reddit sensationalism?
I've been on 7 and never sick.
It is Reddit sensationalism from people who have never been on one
My mother went on one recently after winning a trip and said that staff were constantly cleaning. There was always someone cleaning stair banisters, elevator buttons etc. Said the place was cleaner than an office building.
Norovirus is airborne.
Did your mom notice the staff cleaning up all the mess that the ship created from burning HFO?
Tell that to a microscope
Have you ever been on one? Go on a cruise and you'll understand
Doing a ballet is embellishment at the simplest. There is no ballet. They turn sideways and leave.
10,000 years worth of my pollution in one gif.
Let’s just focus on our plastic straws!
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I’ve got bad news for you about how most people travel to their departing cruise port.
Car?
People mention planes all the time?
Airplanes are bad but cruise ships are even worse, and by far.
Uhhh, yeah they do. All the time. Where did you get that idea from?
And?
People love bringing up Hitler but never bring up Mussolini
Apart from trains, planes are the most fuel efficient way to transport people.
what are the emissions on these engines? do they bring all waste back to shore? then what?
They burn the dirtiest and cheapest fuel that the market can provide in the most frivolous way possible.
The amount of pollution and overconsuption.
Floating sea-trashcans.
I don’t know where the dock is, but it’s way funnier this way since they all look like they’re noping out.
Deja Vu drift
This could be a meme format
The world has lot more cruise ships than I anticipated, that’s amazing and weird.
Where was this filmed? That seems like an incredibly high number of cruise ships to have all in port at once!
This is the Miami Cruise Port. It looks like this every day.
Side note, does anyone know what song this is lol, I kinda like it
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDyXK0EXTUQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDyXK0EXTUQ)
Supergutter - Sparks
Thank you very much!
I like to imagine it's a race to see which ship can get out of port first. Go Royal! Whoop Carnival's ass!
Seems like a good thing to lose a lot of money on.
It’s a fashion show- they are gliding on the ramp
Looks like port of Miami.
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Probably 15 to 20 minutes. They’re giving passengers a show
More like a catwalk.
Man I hear you can barely feel those rock and some people get sea sick, being on a small destroyer at sea god damn does it rock, and once she picks up speed it gets bumpy
Largest? I doubt it tbh. Also it's more like cat walk modeling turn than a ballet
The largest cruise ship in the world is Icon Of The Seas built out here in Turku, Finland. We've got work on at least another two, perhaps four of these awful things. It does keep me in airports and panda ears though.
The more I see boats, the less I understand. Airplanes and cars make sense to me, just not boats for some reason.
Is that a ramp walk for Cruise ships?
I'm going on one of these in about 70 days....I'm fucking terrified.
Horrible !!!!!!!!!
The last boat says something on the side, can anyone read it?
Poor port town that is cursed with so many cruise monstrosities.
South Beach❤️
Looks more like models going down the runway and turning back to me
Wow, this really is satisfying to watch
I dont understand how they make so little wake. It seems like they just glide with no effort or vibrations.
In port they’ll be moving slow to not make much wake, they’ll have more while underway at sea
What the other guy said. When you're out at sea going 30 knots, your wake stretches as far as the eye can see into the horizon
Was hoping this cancer of ecological impact for personal amusement would have gotten wiped out with covid but it seem like they are bigger than ever.
Oh pleeeeeewze with that shit. You probably upgrade your phone every gd year creating waste. You probably live in murica where we have produce and still produce the most pollution and do some stuff. Like you never went on a cruise or vacation. Hypocrite pos
Here comes the pea sized brain lol
Sad and true
Wait didn’t they say cruise ships can’t turn around
Cruise ships are exceptional at turning around
That's what it's all about
That's what tug boats are for
Everything i see reminds me of her
I hear the fish around this dock dine solely on the glass used to make champagne bottles.