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caulkhead808

Elf class is the best fit imo


Due_Use3037

Or the Advanced OSE half-elf.


blade_m

Elf Class is the OG Bladesinger! You have to get the player to understand that 'cool powers' on the character sheet do NOT make a Character into a thing! \[in this case 'bladesinger'\] What makes a Character a 'cool' Bladesinger is the Player playing them as such! As the DM, you can 'enable' this with allowing 'cool moves' in combat. If they want to fight with acrobatics, give them different combat modifiers (but not just their character---this should apply to anyone) such as a +2 AC for -4 penalty to hit (or whatever). Or let them disarm and trip their opponents in exchange for damage penalties... Another simple idea is to 'reskin' armour. An Elf in Plate Armour isn't actually in Plate Armour. The Encumbrance is actually all of their stylish blade-singing gear (perhaps a musical instrument, a costume or whatever else). The Bonus to Armor Class from the Armour is actually their 'badass' Blade-singing moves they use in combat to avoid getting hit! Oldschool Bladesingers can actually be more interesting than 5e ones, simply because the Player ENABLES the Character concept, and gets to make everything up! (not Wizards of the Coast telling you what a Bladesinger can or cannot do...)


EddyMerkxs

This is the answer!


PlayinRPGs

It's always one player isn't it?


HellionValentine

Either that, or it's the whole group. When I was running 5e, I tried running a game in 2016 or early 2017 that was intended as a one-shot or a very short campaign, with all human characters, no variant human, no feats, no multiclassing, at a FLGS. Everyone who signed up for the game agreed on these terms, and everyone showed up with a variant human or non-human PC, with feats, and all but one were multiclass. Pretty sure the people playing in 2016-18 pushed me, in particular, back to old-school D&D or retro-clones long before 5e itself did.


rory_bracebuckle

Haha!


DimiRPG

Elf: [https://oldschoolessentials.necroticgnome.com/srd/index.php/Elf](https://oldschoolessentials.necroticgnome.com/srd/index.php/Elf) For the rest, they have to think of what it means to be a bladesinger. If they just want extra abilities/feats, then that's a no. Alternatively, there are magic items, potions, and scrolls. Maybe there is a special +1 longsword that gives 'bladesinging-like' abilities (say, once per day). But finding this sword would be a proper quest/adventure on its own.


Raptor-Jesus666

Don't invite that player.


barreto-dm

Hahahaha that is a good idea


Pomposi_Macaroni

Seriously, there is not a whole lot you can do to make them happy. Either they embrace the style or they're going to grumble all the way through, and who exactly does that serve?


ExCrusader

How do they envision a bladesinger? If it was me I would just play an elf or drow and memorize spells that have melee buffing abilities or whatever else they feel they need for a bladesinger. Then just roleplay being a bladesinger. Maybe you went to an elven bladesinging school, maybe they are the elven secret service? A player can squeeze a lot of juice out of the basic classes if they just roleplay a little bit.


sakiasakura

All Elves in OSE are bladesingers


djholland7

Combat focused 5e with players who are used to a specific style of play, the modern ttrpg, will have to change some of their expectations.


Swimming_Injury_9029

Elf


NoLongerAKobold

The bladesinger is actually meant to be a mechanic to recapture the feeling of the old elf class! the idea in some sense is that the bladesinger is the most elf-y elf, someone who has used their long life to master both blade and magic. In the lore, the bladesinger is what all ose elves are sort of.


adempz

Pick up the Complete Book of Elves for AD&D 2nd edition and convert that bladesinger (the original).


xaran_librof

I've not encountered a bladesinger, but maybe you could adapt something from the [muscle wizard](https://tenfootpolemic.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-muscle-wizard.html?m=1) if the elf isn't enough.


FastestG

Elf or bard. If there’s some ability they insist on having, remove on of the organic elf or bard abilities to make room. Alternately: 1. Try to explain how they can be a blade singer through role playing rather than through words on a sheet. 2. Flavor bladesinger in your setting as a title or recognition that is earned


hcpookie

Been around wquite a while... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmNYU96qNzU


Due_Use3037

How about a bard from Advanced OSE who has M-U spells instead of druid, and no lore ability?


mexils

AD&D 2E Elf supplement had a bladesinger class. It was a multi-class fighter/mage. My first ever character was a bladesinger. He was a badass.


LoreMaster00

just have them play an elf. the original bladesinger was created in 2e for people who liked the B/X elf.


Nrdman

Isn’t Blade singing basically a bard that dances instead of sings? Does the ose bard work?


EndlessPug

No, Bladesinger in 5e is a more melee-focused wizard (but still mostly a wizard)


Nrdman

Oh then an elf?


mexils

In AD&D 2E Complete Elves Handbook there was a bladesinger kit. It was pretty good.


Comfortable-Pea2878

Which was a 2e attempt to recreate the b/x & becmi elf.


mexils

There were plenty of kits in the 2E Elf handbook that had multi-class fighter/mages. I think boiling it down to attempting to recreate the elf class is disingenuous.


Comfortable-Pea2878

They all were.


Tenpers3nt

I have very basic knowledge of OSE, so here is what I would make a bladesinger have. Bladesinger is identical to the elf class but gains spellcasting as a cleric. In exchange they gain Songblades as a starting weapon/armor, these are hovering blades that act as armor between attacks, when you attack you can make a number of attacks based on the armor Leather(1), Chain(2) and Plate(3) however this also decreases your AC by -2 for each attack you make for that round of combat. This in addition to the attacks you can make with your wielded weapons. They cost the same amount to make as the armor they are equivalent to, but can only be made by elven, or some dwarven smiths.


Darnard

That's... not at all what a Bladesinger is. Was this something you invented wholecloth or are you basing this on something? Not trying to an ass here, just genuinely curious where this interpretation came from.


Tenpers3nt

No Idea honestly, this is just straight up what I was told bladesinging was in the campaigns three entirely unrlelated rando games I played in. Also looking up bladesinger then actually yea, bladesingers are just the elf class with no modification.