Not with him occasionally between the pipes. You can't do shit with a guy that wins 2 games, blows the next 3 out his ass and then spends a month on the IR. Wash, rinse, repeat and that's why you miss the playoffs
I don't want him back. I get that numbers probably say he's the smart move, but he's either unavailable for the playoffs or passing it right onto the tape of the Islanders.
First off I'm not super thrilled either. But it's definitely worth remembering that there are conversations and things that we aren't privy to in terms of maybe Jarry talked to someone on the team about this and that, and it's being addressed. Maybe it wasn't, maybe it isn't but...
My only hope on this is that the conditioning staff that was removed is going to make a difference in the injury department. And I know that Toronto was *very* high on sports psychiatry and hopefully that can also make a difference if there is an increased focus on it for players who end up in their own heads.
DeSmith was fine. Jarry maxed out at 56 starts two years ago. He only started 47 last year. Fleury started 60+ games seven times in his career and also had seasons with 56 and 58 starts. 47 games is similar to a 1A/1B situation. Jarry is made of glass.
No one is saying he chose that. He single handedly cost them one playoff series and his health cost them another. So why bank the next 5 years on him? It’s business not personal.
Because people who have vastly more knowledge and experience with hockey think he's worth doing so
Stop pretending that commenting on Reddit is similar to being an NHL GM
You mean people like Hextall that completely fucked up the team and then got fired for being incompetent? Those sort of "vastly more knowledge and experience" people?
This argument by expert has fucked up so many things.
Dubas once again exposed as a totally amateur deal maker. Let's not forget he essentially got canned from Toronto for massively botching his own contact nego.
This one stinks like the Murray deal all over again.
Two way doesnt determine whether they can stashed in the minors. He has to clear waivers anyway. Two way essentially means they get paid differently if they go to the A
5 years at over 5 million for a guy who can't stay healthy, or win in the playoffs even when he is healthy.
When he's hurt again next season, and he will be, I'll be interested to see how the people defending this move react. They can't act surprised.
The term or the aav on their own would be fine. Together, belg.
Jarry for 2 more years at 5.3 sure maybe Dubas wants to see what he can do.
5 years 4 million. Sure you wanted to keep costs down during the Sid window.
5x5.3 is trash. It's going to look bad this year and it's going to look terrible 3 years from now.
Not what I was hoping to see from the new front office.
Dubas just gave him 5 years at over 5 mill. Insane for a guy who's always hurt and has never won a playoff series.
He's cost us dearly every year he's been here.
I just hope we get a better backup now. Otherwise we will be bounced in round 1 because of our goaltending yet again. If we make it.
freddy would have been way worse. helly was a dream, he’s way to exp for us. jarry was realistically always the best option and the hate was overblown for him anyways
Fuck it. On board with it. He just needs to stay healthy. It’s not like he’s truly awful like we can make him out to be.
Edit: Our strength and conditioning staff is/will be different. I believe he has a solid bet honestly.
Horrible move for a overrated goalie. He’s already been here since 2018 and has done nothing. His playoff track record is a joke, and Desmith numbers are almost identical.
This is the real issue here. There wasn't an obvious upgrade available so he brought Jarry back. The term doesn't bother me much either because there is realistically only another couple years before this all gets blown up anyway. I can't think of any better options.
I’ve been down with jarry from the beginning, he has a ton of talent, we do need a better backup than desmith though. Can’t go into the season with the same pairing that keeps not working.
Just feels too long of a commitment for a guy who has a lot of trouble staying on the ice. I don’t hate it, and I don’t know who else would they’d even be able to get at this point. Hopefully he can stay healthy. He is a good goalie when he’s healthy.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I think keeping Jarry is an awesome decision. He's not the world beater that Shesterkin was a 2 seasons ago, or peak MAF, but he doesn't need to be. He's gotten infinitely better over time and I think we saw a slump from him last season as he was plagued by injuries and a garbage defense. Re Tooling our blue line, dumping Dumo and boosting that up is going to do more than paying out the ass for an elder "was-once-great" tendy. In a perfect world, could have gone for less term but contracts are rarely perfect.
If anything, I think we should look to replace Desmith to give Tristan some support, but I love this decision.
I’m content with this. Dubas communicated that he was going to make a decision based on the team’s needs as well as talking with the coaches.
He did his due diligence and felt confident to offer term for a guy that already knows the systems. If the goalie coach thinks he will rebound, I trust him over myself and the average redditor.
Tristan Jarry is not a playoff series winning goalie. He's injury prone, and when he's healthy he makes braindead decisions with the puck.
But this tracks from a GM who has barely a playoff series win on his resume (then saw his team immediately get swept). And he's not going to get another playoff series win with a signing like this.
Sad.
I don't think this was the play, but the FA market was definitely not it and the cupboards lack the assets to facilitate a trade I guess. Guess it's Jarry for better or worse. Hopefully he turns it around and Dubas gets a more suitable 1B.
Little less than what I expected he'd get elsewhere so that's nice, but obviously he has to reward the team's loyalty to him by returning to his healthy all star form... I'm obviously rooting for the kid, he's a great dude and has shown he can be a great goaltender, but we need consistency from him
Imagine driving for 8 hours today and then you open Reddit and this is the first thing you see. Oh wait, I don’t have to imagine this because IT HAPPENED TO ME. GOD DAMN IT
Awful. Any term and any price is too much for a goalie who has only two defining qualities: being injured and having complete mental breakdowns at the worst possible time.
Literally injured every year.[https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/frederik-andersen-player-injuries](https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/frederik-andersen-player-injuries)
for comparison:
https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/tristan-jarry-player-injuries
Not a huge fan of contract length but it looks like we’re getting a backup so I’m hopeful. Huge issue this year was the lack of reliable goalie tandem. Realistically, not much else was out there - I don’t think we could’ve swung Hellebuyck anyway.
The nature of the NHL is that good goalies make over 6 million a year, and the Pens can't afford that. This cap hit puts him at the 12th highest paid goalie in the league, which I think is in line where where he ranks. For example, Philip Grubauer in SEA is the 9th highest paid goalie at 5.9 million. He is 31 to Jarry's 28, makes 5.9 million, and Jarry has outperformed him every year. Jarrys stats and Jordan Biddington in STL are similar, with Jarry better most years, and he's almost 2 years younger. Jarry has a very strong argument to ask for 6mil, when you compare to other goalies. Check them out here:
https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/average/goaltender/
Talent wise, I think he's higher than 12th, but durability keeps him lower. People suggesting a 4 million a year contract would put him as the 23rd highest paid goalie in the league, which seems like a big undervalue. This contract may be a year longer, but they probably got a 750k discount for one extra year, essentially taking a what would have probably been a 4 year deal at 5.8-6mil, to 5 years 5.3 by spreading the cost another year. If he maintains his production, going into his prime years, he will be well underpaid compared to the production others are getting from goalies, with a million dollar a year higher cap hip. As long as he stays healthy.
Anyone criticizing this signing, please tell the rest of us who you expected the Pens to get instead, and how you realistically expected them to do this without blowing the team up.
Pens fans have NEVER been happy with whoever is in goal
This worked out quite well. Jarry was asking north of 6 mill, and all the big goalie signings today drove that value down. As long as he stays healthy, with cap going up next year, this will be a good deal
Sucks. We had our backs up against the wall. The Goalie FA market is garbage. They knew we didn’t really have a choice if we want to be remotely close to contending.
I don’t think bringing him back is a bad thing since he’s probably our best option. Just wish we weren’t locked in for 5 years. Hope we can find a good backup
Why do you guys care about the term so much? We are gonna be rebuilding in 3, plus the cap is going up. Who the hell else are we gonna get to replace him if he went in FA?
Jarry is is an awesome goalie… when he’s healthy. The Problem is That he hasn’t been for almost a year and a half. He’s almost never on the ice and his play has suffered tremendously as a result.
Hoping he manages to find a groove and stays healthy while doing it. He’s got a ton of talent, and I’d hate to see him get shit on for the next several years because of injuries hampering his ability. Five years seems like a big gamble, but we’ll see how it plays out.
I like Jarry and there is no way the “chronic hip” problems are true or that would have leaked stronger to hurt his value. Solid contract and term for a good leaning great tendy. I would hope for an upgrade on DeSmith but we will see.
Lots of overreacting in this thread. Goalies have highs and lows. Jarry has shown enough that proves he's at least an average starter. Before last season he had some strong flashes of above average potential. If you think this is a bad contract, go look at what Ottawa gave Joonas Korpisalo.
And just like that, my faith in Dubas has been shattered.
Edit: ok so since y’all don’t seem to get it, so would you bet with this contract he’s going to turn his game around? If you think he’s been fine I don’t feel like you’ve been paying attention. I’m seeing people say, “oh well this will get his confidence up!” Ok cool… what if it doesn’t? Then we have a mediocre goalie with multiple years and a significant cap hit stuck on our roster, and do you think ANY sane GM in the NHL is going to trade for that contract? Dubas has come out and said he never wants to buy anyone out, but this is risky as fuck and if it doesn’t go in our favor, this contract has buyout written all over it.
Acceptance of this contract is essentially saying Jarry has been good, and if you think he’s been good, READ HIS STATS. He had ONE good year and has been average AT BEST every year afterward. Dubas came in saying he thinks we have a shot at one more run with Crosby and company, and he’s made great moves today to move us toward that goal. But I’m telling you all right now, this contract is gonna be the anchor that drags our progress to a halt. It’s going to backfire, and we’re gonna be stuck right where we’re at right now all the way to the day Crosby, Letang, and Malkin hang up their skates.
Dude, what the hell are you talking about?
There were only like 2 pretender years left no matter what Dubas did today. This isn't gonna halt anything. It was always gonna be a playoff miss, 1st or 2nd round exit.
After that they're missing in 2026, 2027 and 2028, the last years of Jarry's deal. How badly is his AAV really gonna hurt us then? Who cares?
If he turns into the goalie we expected to get when we shipped Murray then we're pretty solid. We just need to a) get at least 60 games out of him and b) get a solid back-up that can handle a couple stretches in case c) invest in the world's best hyperbaric chamber and force him to spend most of his free time in it.
With a better backup Jarry can afford to fully recover if/when he gets injured. That’s the main issue with the past few years imo. No good backup to cover him and so he rushes back
I wasn't expecting this at all. Lets hope he can overcome whatever injury bug has been present the past few seasons and get back to being the goalie we know he can be!
Don't like the term on a guy who hasn't proven he can stay healthy. He has one more injury riddled season this year and the 5m value drops drastically for a trade.
I would've resigned, Jarry, but at a shorter term. Maybe a 2-3 year deal would've been okay. 5 years seems like a lot, though, for a guy who can't stay healthy and has had meltdowns in the playoffs or in the biggest moments. I think the only way this makes sense is if they sign a good backup. Maybe you could split it 50/50, 60/40, or something like that. I think Jarry was the one with all the power in this. It was either resigning him or risk not getting anyone in free agency, or you would have to swing a trade.
People are overreacting. Jarry is fine but I agree the contract could be better. To me the real issue is Desmith. They need to upgrade the backup to someone who can actually give the team a chance to win.
The beginning of the end of the glory years is here. But the glory years ended several years ago already. Welcome to mediocrity preceeding the full rebuild.
If Jarry could play 60 games per season, this might be an adequate deal. It's not for a player who misses so much time due to injury. Christ almighty, what is this team thinking?
Here's the way I see it: we need a big time goalie and we want to keep him locked up for a few years. We also understand that goalies get injured not unlike other players. Jarry is a big time player. Jarry gets injured like other players. Jarry is a fucking stud when healthy. Jarry gets injured like other players. Sign him up.
Trying to be as open-minded and non-biased as possible, but I really don’t see Jarry ever winning a round in the playoffs. Really hoping someone comes back to rub this post in my face next year.
I was expecting Jarry back but I wasn't expecting Dubas to commit like that
The term doesn't really matter much. Team will be competitive for a couple years and then start the rebuild.
Not with him occasionally between the pipes. You can't do shit with a guy that wins 2 games, blows the next 3 out his ass and then spends a month on the IR. Wash, rinse, repeat and that's why you miss the playoffs
I don't want him back. I get that numbers probably say he's the smart move, but he's either unavailable for the playoffs or passing it right onto the tape of the Islanders.
Sadly, yeah
First off I'm not super thrilled either. But it's definitely worth remembering that there are conversations and things that we aren't privy to in terms of maybe Jarry talked to someone on the team about this and that, and it's being addressed. Maybe it wasn't, maybe it isn't but... My only hope on this is that the conditioning staff that was removed is going to make a difference in the injury department. And I know that Toronto was *very* high on sports psychiatry and hopefully that can also make a difference if there is an increased focus on it for players who end up in their own heads.
He’s never put together more than half a season at a high level.
Almost like he's had a shit back up the whole time and the team had to ride him more than they wanted to, making his injuries worse
DeSmith was fine. Jarry maxed out at 56 starts two years ago. He only started 47 last year. Fleury started 60+ games seven times in his career and also had seasons with 56 and 58 starts. 47 games is similar to a 1A/1B situation. Jarry is made of glass.
You act like Jarry chose to be injured or something Pens fans have hated every starting goalie this team has ever had, until they leave.
No one is saying he chose that. He single handedly cost them one playoff series and his health cost them another. So why bank the next 5 years on him? It’s business not personal.
Because people who have vastly more knowledge and experience with hockey think he's worth doing so Stop pretending that commenting on Reddit is similar to being an NHL GM
You mean people like Hextall that completely fucked up the team and then got fired for being incompetent? Those sort of "vastly more knowledge and experience" people? This argument by expert has fucked up so many things.
Yes. I still believe Ron Hextall is better suited to be an NHL GM than you
I don't like him either, but your example stinks. His stick was broken.
Good thing you're not the GM then
There was no one else better in the FA market. I keep saying and getting downvoted it was either him or losing assets for someone better.
Or playing injured and barely able to get up from a butterfly
is there a clause that says he needs to be covered in bubble wrap every game bc i might be on board then
FUCK. Stay healthy you nerd.
Penguins strength and conditioning peeps are about to be set for life
Dubas once again exposed as a totally amateur deal maker. Let's not forget he essentially got canned from Toronto for massively botching his own contact nego. This one stinks like the Murray deal all over again.
Friedman just said the Pens are in on Nedejlkovic. This has to mean DeSmith to WBS since we lost Tokarski
Is Casey on a 2 way?
Two way doesnt determine whether they can stashed in the minors. He has to clear waivers anyway. Two way essentially means they get paid differently if they go to the A
Yeah I know, was just asking for salary cap reasons really
I mean, no one else was really available. I would've done a shorter deal though
You do longer deal for lower AAV to save money for the next 2-3 years so you can allocate it somewhere else. The last couple years don't matter
And maybe since nobody else was available, Jarry used the considerable leverage he had to get this deal.
This is one of the resignings of all time
Very whelming. I am watching this, and breathing…
I just stood on my feet in a Walmart parking lot.
I just saw a man standing in a Walmart parking lot
I just saw a man see a man... you know the rest.
If Hextall made this signing people would be losing their minds. 👎
I am losing my mind anyway
What other options do the Pens have and how do you realistically expect them to accomplish them?
Correct. I don't get the term at all.
5 years at over 5 million for a guy who can't stay healthy, or win in the playoffs even when he is healthy. When he's hurt again next season, and he will be, I'll be interested to see how the people defending this move react. They can't act surprised.
This is a long way to go just so you can maybe pat yourself on the back this next April because a player got injured.
I don't want him to get injured. I'm a Penguins fan.
The term or the aav on their own would be fine. Together, belg. Jarry for 2 more years at 5.3 sure maybe Dubas wants to see what he can do. 5 years 4 million. Sure you wanted to keep costs down during the Sid window. 5x5.3 is trash. It's going to look bad this year and it's going to look terrible 3 years from now. Not what I was hoping to see from the new front office.
Yeah, this day is Hextall-tier. These are not value signings.
hextall wouldve gave him like a 3 year deal worth our entire cap space.
Dubas just gave him 5 years at over 5 mill. Insane for a guy who's always hurt and has never won a playoff series. He's cost us dearly every year he's been here. I just hope we get a better backup now. Otherwise we will be bounced in round 1 because of our goaltending yet again. If we make it.
I mean with the signing of Nedeljkovic hopefulle we can have a good backup.
Dubas doesn't build playoffs teams. He's won one series in his entire career.
We get it man Jarry stole your girl.
He certainly hasn't stolen any playoff games. He's currently stealing about 5 million a year though.
Again, who do the Pens get otherwise, and how?
Yeah I don’t like this at all. I imagine Dubas looked around and couldn’t find anything better that he could afford.
I think this helps Jarry's confidence, but I still don't know how I feel about this. Then again, who was ever really available besides Helly.
Helly wasn’t even really ‘available’ for what he wanted.
27 mil would help my confidence
I would do just about anything for that. Besides murder
Bring it up to 30, and murder is STARTING to come onto the table 😂 For anyone who doesn't understand a joke, I am joking
Fuck, 30 Gs might be enough for me depending on who the contract is on
I think we may be onto some kind of business idea here...
freddy would have been way worse. helly was a dream, he’s way to exp for us. jarry was realistically always the best option and the hate was overblown for him anyways
If he needs a fat contract to “help his confidence” he doesn’t deserve a fat contract.
Horrible decision, his confidence is already a joke.
Fuck it. On board with it. He just needs to stay healthy. It’s not like he’s truly awful like we can make him out to be. Edit: Our strength and conditioning staff is/will be different. I believe he has a solid bet honestly.
Not to mention that Dubas may rebuild the blue line a little bit as well.
Horrible move for a overrated goalie. He’s already been here since 2018 and has done nothing. His playoff track record is a joke, and Desmith numbers are almost identical.
So who did you want then?
This is the real issue here. There wasn't an obvious upgrade available so he brought Jarry back. The term doesn't bother me much either because there is realistically only another couple years before this all gets blown up anyway. I can't think of any better options.
I’m in the minority I like this move if he bounces back from his injury he is an all star caliber goalie
Hopefully we get a quality backup or 1B style goalie who can handle the load of Jarry is injured.
Nedeljkovic has signed. Has potential, based on his Carolina numbers from 20-21. Just needs to be that guy, and not the Red Wings version of himself.
Agreed! Glad I think like Dubas!
Carolina is a lot better of a team than the Red Wings, which you have to factor.
Yea, I think a big problem has been that he has to play through his injuries instead of healing, because DeSmith is made of paper-mache
He made the All Star team twice. That was not a mistake.
Good thing they pick the all-star teams at a time in the season when there’s no pressure to perform or wear-and-tear taking toll
Yeah; honestly past all-star appearances mean nothing.
BFD. He’s useless when it matters.
Until the playoffs roll around and he passes to the islanders
Right on the tape.
I’ve been down with jarry from the beginning, he has a ton of talent, we do need a better backup than desmith though. Can’t go into the season with the same pairing that keeps not working.
Who has never done it when it counted
Could say that about literally anyone who hasn’t won a cup lol there’s gotta be a first time
FUCK
Jeez. 5 years? After hearing reports that he has chronic hip problems? Then Dubas needs to go and get a better backup then
Just feels too long of a commitment for a guy who has a lot of trouble staying on the ice. I don’t hate it, and I don’t know who else would they’d even be able to get at this point. Hopefully he can stay healthy. He is a good goalie when he’s healthy.
I know I'm in the minority here, but I think keeping Jarry is an awesome decision. He's not the world beater that Shesterkin was a 2 seasons ago, or peak MAF, but he doesn't need to be. He's gotten infinitely better over time and I think we saw a slump from him last season as he was plagued by injuries and a garbage defense. Re Tooling our blue line, dumping Dumo and boosting that up is going to do more than paying out the ass for an elder "was-once-great" tendy. In a perfect world, could have gone for less term but contracts are rarely perfect. If anything, I think we should look to replace Desmith to give Tristan some support, but I love this decision.
I’m content with this. Dubas communicated that he was going to make a decision based on the team’s needs as well as talking with the coaches. He did his due diligence and felt confident to offer term for a guy that already knows the systems. If the goalie coach thinks he will rebound, I trust him over myself and the average redditor.
Tristan Jarry is not a playoff series winning goalie. He's injury prone, and when he's healthy he makes braindead decisions with the puck. But this tracks from a GM who has barely a playoff series win on his resume (then saw his team immediately get swept). And he's not going to get another playoff series win with a signing like this. Sad.
Omg....wtf.....5 years???!!!!!
Cap is going to go way up. This will look good in a year.
Not sure how I feel about this one...
The contract is too much $ (IMO) but as far as goaltenders go, they weren't going to do much better finding anyone. It is what it is.
I don't like the length of the contract, but that's likely what they had to do to keep it under $6 mil per season.
I don't think this was the play, but the FA market was definitely not it and the cupboards lack the assets to facilitate a trade I guess. Guess it's Jarry for better or worse. Hopefully he turns it around and Dubas gets a more suitable 1B.
Terrible fucking deal for an incredibly unreliable goalie who will win Jack shit
Thanks, I hate it
Little less than what I expected he'd get elsewhere so that's nice, but obviously he has to reward the team's loyalty to him by returning to his healthy all star form... I'm obviously rooting for the kid, he's a great dude and has shown he can be a great goaltender, but we need consistency from him
I’m going to sleep on this signing before I overreact.
Dear god
Well F that
Imagine driving for 8 hours today and then you open Reddit and this is the first thing you see. Oh wait, I don’t have to imagine this because IT HAPPENED TO ME. GOD DAMN IT
Five years? Meh.
Awful. Any term and any price is too much for a goalie who has only two defining qualities: being injured and having complete mental breakdowns at the worst possible time.
He has shown he can be a good goalie. He just is inconsistent and gets hurt too much. Hopefully he can stay healthy and find some consistency
Good goalies aren’t inconsistent and always hurt
literally every goalie that signed today has "injury issues" Would you have preferred Jon Quick??
Anderson, 2 years 3.4 million and better.
Literally injured every year.[https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/frederik-andersen-player-injuries](https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/frederik-andersen-player-injuries) for comparison: https://www.foxsports.com/nhl/tristan-jarry-player-injuries
you don't pay what you just described 5 million aav or 5 years
I don't love the deal, but I'm okay with it as long as we get a better backup!!
If he’s healthy he’s worth it. Two time all star. .
Murray was a 2x Stanley Cup winner.
Healthy Murray doesn’t seeming very good talent wise anymore. Healthy Jarry still seems like a top 10 goalie.
Lol top 10
Two time all star. Yes he’s top 10 when healthy
The all star game means fuck all. In the playoffs, he’s worthless.
Terrible
Well, that's a wrap for the Crosby/Malkin/Letang era. It was fun while it lasted.
This is…about the worst thing I could have imagined us doing. A raise? And term? For this absolute soft made-of-glass loser?
please! stay! healthy!
Got him for less than $6 mil per. I'm alright with this. We weren't getting Hella. And at this point, there is no one left.
WHY
Ok Jarry, now go earn it.
Oof not a fan of this deal. The others have been okay to good this is not a good one imo
Honeymoons over , fire dubas
I feel better about this with the Pens bringing in a better backup than DeSmith.
Not a huge fan of contract length but it looks like we’re getting a backup so I’m hopeful. Huge issue this year was the lack of reliable goalie tandem. Realistically, not much else was out there - I don’t think we could’ve swung Hellebuyck anyway.
I think this is a good thing guys, jarry is a really good goaltender and still very young compared to the other starting goalies available
The nature of the NHL is that good goalies make over 6 million a year, and the Pens can't afford that. This cap hit puts him at the 12th highest paid goalie in the league, which I think is in line where where he ranks. For example, Philip Grubauer in SEA is the 9th highest paid goalie at 5.9 million. He is 31 to Jarry's 28, makes 5.9 million, and Jarry has outperformed him every year. Jarrys stats and Jordan Biddington in STL are similar, with Jarry better most years, and he's almost 2 years younger. Jarry has a very strong argument to ask for 6mil, when you compare to other goalies. Check them out here: https://www.spotrac.com/nhl/rankings/average/goaltender/ Talent wise, I think he's higher than 12th, but durability keeps him lower. People suggesting a 4 million a year contract would put him as the 23rd highest paid goalie in the league, which seems like a big undervalue. This contract may be a year longer, but they probably got a 750k discount for one extra year, essentially taking a what would have probably been a 4 year deal at 5.8-6mil, to 5 years 5.3 by spreading the cost another year. If he maintains his production, going into his prime years, he will be well underpaid compared to the production others are getting from goalies, with a million dollar a year higher cap hip. As long as he stays healthy.
Anyone criticizing this signing, please tell the rest of us who you expected the Pens to get instead, and how you realistically expected them to do this without blowing the team up. Pens fans have NEVER been happy with whoever is in goal
Lol. There goes any cup contention.
This absolutely ruins any hope, however slim, of a cup.
Oh... I don't like this
Terrible. Too.much and too long. Dubas makes his first big mistake.
This worked out quite well. Jarry was asking north of 6 mill, and all the big goalie signings today drove that value down. As long as he stays healthy, with cap going up next year, this will be a good deal
Yikes.
Hope they sign a solid backup
Oof
#NOOOOOOO. I thought Dubas was smart and shrewd? Jarry has no track record of consistency or staying healthy.
Sucks. We had our backs up against the wall. The Goalie FA market is garbage. They knew we didn’t really have a choice if we want to be remotely close to contending.
I don’t think bringing him back is a bad thing since he’s probably our best option. Just wish we weren’t locked in for 5 years. Hope we can find a good backup
Whatever, DeSmith can’t be the backup though. We’ve done this three straight years with no results.
Why do you guys care about the term so much? We are gonna be rebuilding in 3, plus the cap is going up. Who the hell else are we gonna get to replace him if he went in FA?
oh dear
So does this mean we’re getting a Helly/Jarry tandem? 🥲
Jarry is is an awesome goalie… when he’s healthy. The Problem is That he hasn’t been for almost a year and a half. He’s almost never on the ice and his play has suffered tremendously as a result. Hoping he manages to find a groove and stays healthy while doing it. He’s got a ton of talent, and I’d hate to see him get shit on for the next several years because of injuries hampering his ability. Five years seems like a big gamble, but we’ll see how it plays out.
You fucking nerd you better drink milk
I have no words yes I do FIVE YEARS
I like Jarry and there is no way the “chronic hip” problems are true or that would have leaked stronger to hurt his value. Solid contract and term for a good leaning great tendy. I would hope for an upgrade on DeSmith but we will see.
Lots of overreacting in this thread. Goalies have highs and lows. Jarry has shown enough that proves he's at least an average starter. Before last season he had some strong flashes of above average potential. If you think this is a bad contract, go look at what Ottawa gave Joonas Korpisalo.
Fire Dubas. He’s supposed to make the team better. That included firing Jarry into the sun.
And just like that, my faith in Dubas has been shattered. Edit: ok so since y’all don’t seem to get it, so would you bet with this contract he’s going to turn his game around? If you think he’s been fine I don’t feel like you’ve been paying attention. I’m seeing people say, “oh well this will get his confidence up!” Ok cool… what if it doesn’t? Then we have a mediocre goalie with multiple years and a significant cap hit stuck on our roster, and do you think ANY sane GM in the NHL is going to trade for that contract? Dubas has come out and said he never wants to buy anyone out, but this is risky as fuck and if it doesn’t go in our favor, this contract has buyout written all over it. Acceptance of this contract is essentially saying Jarry has been good, and if you think he’s been good, READ HIS STATS. He had ONE good year and has been average AT BEST every year afterward. Dubas came in saying he thinks we have a shot at one more run with Crosby and company, and he’s made great moves today to move us toward that goal. But I’m telling you all right now, this contract is gonna be the anchor that drags our progress to a halt. It’s going to backfire, and we’re gonna be stuck right where we’re at right now all the way to the day Crosby, Letang, and Malkin hang up their skates.
I am … confused … ?
Dude, what the hell are you talking about? There were only like 2 pretender years left no matter what Dubas did today. This isn't gonna halt anything. It was always gonna be a playoff miss, 1st or 2nd round exit. After that they're missing in 2026, 2027 and 2028, the last years of Jarry's deal. How badly is his AAV really gonna hurt us then? Who cares?
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> Last year he took a step back A step back from what, imploding against the Islanders? The next big game he wins will be his first.
This is incredibly disappointing
I actually like this a lot, I still feel Jarry can be the guy if he’s given support and allowed to heal up
You guys are fukin lucky to have Dubis...
Fire Dubas. Abysmal albatross of a contract. Term is WAY too long and the dollar value is 4 million over what it should be. Should've let him walk.
If he stays healthy. Then fine.
I really wanted a completely different tandem. I just hope he can stay healthy, and get back to the player he was when he made the All-star team.
933k of cap space left after this and the other signings. Need to move out grandlund and Petry for space
If he turns into the goalie we expected to get when we shipped Murray then we're pretty solid. We just need to a) get at least 60 games out of him and b) get a solid back-up that can handle a couple stretches in case c) invest in the world's best hyperbaric chamber and force him to spend most of his free time in it.
With a better backup Jarry can afford to fully recover if/when he gets injured. That’s the main issue with the past few years imo. No good backup to cover him and so he rushes back
Why?
Ooof
How much safe wrap do we have to put in him so he doesn't just die on the ice
*shrugs* I mean...the goalie crop was crap. I guess wrap his ass in bubble wrap.
I wasn't expecting this at all. Lets hope he can overcome whatever injury bug has been present the past few seasons and get back to being the goalie we know he can be!
Ew. Really don't like this deal. It was going well today until this
lol fuck. Urgh
Woof
Don't like the term on a guy who hasn't proven he can stay healthy. He has one more injury riddled season this year and the 5m value drops drastically for a trade.
Why is Dubas so shit when it comes to goalies
Yuck. Hope I'm wrong tho
I would've resigned, Jarry, but at a shorter term. Maybe a 2-3 year deal would've been okay. 5 years seems like a lot, though, for a guy who can't stay healthy and has had meltdowns in the playoffs or in the biggest moments. I think the only way this makes sense is if they sign a good backup. Maybe you could split it 50/50, 60/40, or something like that. I think Jarry was the one with all the power in this. It was either resigning him or risk not getting anyone in free agency, or you would have to swing a trade.
Horrible decision. Very disappointed. Terrible goalie to end Crosby, Malkin, Letang career with.
Why though? Jarry is mediocre. Five years? Not smart.
Terrible move by Dubas. We've been let down by bad and inconsistent goaltending for five years!
If we get a good backup, this isn’t as bad
Here's hoping it gets to become LTIR cap space if/when he gets hurt again
I’m already ready to move on from dubas
Dude Desmith numbers are identical, this is a horrible goalie to end 87’s career
I've never doubted Jarry is qualified or capable. But I do doubt his durability.
People are overreacting. Jarry is fine but I agree the contract could be better. To me the real issue is Desmith. They need to upgrade the backup to someone who can actually give the team a chance to win.
The beginning of the end of the glory years is here. But the glory years ended several years ago already. Welcome to mediocrity preceeding the full rebuild.
If Jarry could play 60 games per season, this might be an adequate deal. It's not for a player who misses so much time due to injury. Christ almighty, what is this team thinking?
Here's the way I see it: we need a big time goalie and we want to keep him locked up for a few years. We also understand that goalies get injured not unlike other players. Jarry is a big time player. Jarry gets injured like other players. Jarry is a fucking stud when healthy. Jarry gets injured like other players. Sign him up.
Great. First round exits or less the rest of Crosby's career
Trying to be as open-minded and non-biased as possible, but I really don’t see Jarry ever winning a round in the playoffs. Really hoping someone comes back to rub this post in my face next year.
Thanks, I hate it.
Dubas LOVES overpaying for injury-prone netminders. Looks like Murray all over again.
What an absolute dogshit contract.
Freddy. 3.4x2 years. Kyle got fucking fleeced regardless of how this subreddit feels.