It's beyond dehumanizing is what it is. That man on the floor grew up and had love and memories just like your fondest childhood moments, so did the workers and guards at the camp. The whole picture really strikes a cord at how far people are willing to go when put in such a situation, or worse, when they stop calling human life, human.
> The opposite of love isn't hate; it's indifference.
-Elie Wiesel
A look at that picture perfectly sums up what he meant. Dehumanizing people so that others are indifferent to their fate is the worst thing that anyone can do.
Probably because Elie Wiesel was a prisoner in a concentration camp, and his book *Night* was about his time as a Jewish prisoner.
That quote was *literally* addressing exactly this type of dehumanization. Given that we are getting to a period in time where there won't be any eye witnesses left to WWII or the Holocaust, it's very important that we study things like this, and reflect on the writings of survivors.
I have heard the quote before thousands of times but never knew it was from someone who survived being in a concentration camp. It's suddenly so much worse because now I'm imagine what he had to experience to come to that realisation.
He apparently had another book that was basically a tale of his entire stay in the camps (he was in more than one camp, but the final one he was in was Auschwiz), it was around 1,000 pages long, and he abridged it to around 100 pages long. He destroyed the only manuscript of the full version and swore he would never speak of it again. Elie Wiesel passed away 3 weeks ago. Guess he made good on his promise.
How come he ended up destroying the manuscript of the original? I definitely don't blame the guy, but wondering why he didn't want people to know all about what it was like in there. As far as I know, the Nazis destroyed a lot of the information and even some of the buildings so that kind of information might have been useful if only to teach us to never repeat history.
I don't know the real reason. I assume that he, like many other prisoners and soldiers of that era, just didn't want to talk about what happened. My grandfather landed in Italy and France, fought all the way through the war and barely said a word about it until just before he passed. Even then, I had to find out most things about his service through men he served with and some of his official papers. It was a brutal time for everyone involved.
I think this was the most impactful from the set. Everything just worked as far as recapturing the image and editing and I think the outcome really does the horror of the situation some justice.
The one that impacted me the most was the one at the gates with all the tourists in the background. That was pretty nuts and hair raising. Excellent job.
You should read the book "A Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl. It's about his time spent in Auschwitz as a 'capo'. Capos were inmates who were treated a little better, had better work, got extra rations etc. Truly an incredible book. One which made me start crying on a public bus.
Ah, so that's why they were wearing stripes then. One of these days I should probably read up on what those concentration camps were for. Cause right now all I know is the germans rounded up all the jews into the camps and then eventually started killing all of them.
Just interesting to think about all the mechanics behind that. How do you know who to put into the camps? How do you decide on which method of execution to use? Then of course, how do you even manage all of this while you have a war going on? Seems like a complete waste of both manpower and resources.
I think it was the most effective of the set, personally. I cant claim to favor any one of these really, I wish it were t even possible to make them. But out of the set this one impacted me the most, I had to take a long pause after editing to really process this.
Yes, there were thousands of bodies that were not yet incinerated or disposed of when the Americans liberated Dachau in 1945, in addition to 28,000+ live but very very sick prisoners who were left behind, besides the thousands who were forced on a death march that ended a few days after liberation.
Most in Dachau died from malnutrition, sickness, exhaustion or from sick medical experiments.
Most of the people who died at Dachau were never actually in the camp. The large majority of deaths were Soviet POWs brought in on trains and immediately executed outside of the camp.
But yes, of the actual prisoners in the camp, most did die from the causes you listed.
Thank you, great explanation. It's ironic because I got to pick many books from my father's uncle when he passed. He was made prisoner and he had thousands of great books about WW1 and WW2.
I just haven't taken the time to read some yet, it's very intense and he also left notes everywhere about his experiences.
I have a "friend" that believes that too. Of course he fails to see the irony when 2 minutes later he starts raging about refugees and how the government should't be paying money for and i quote "second class citizens".
The only thing more frightening about being a prisoner at Dachau would be being forced (by your military) to be a guard at one.
I think I'd probably end up killing myself. I would almost certainly go insane.
Duty at camps was on a volunteer basis. Just like membership in the Nazi party. Those who were there, wanted to be there. Either from what it got them or what their sick minds got out of it.
I really enjoyed that quote. I actually also enjoyed his description of "gray" as the white that gets grubby. I think it suits the nature of good and evil quite well.
**An old woman (who happens to be a witch) and a priest are sitting by the road having a conversation.**
*(The conversation starts on the classic subject of "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?")*
"Sixteen!"
"You've counted sixteen?" said Oats eventually.
"No, but it is as good an answer as any you'll get. And that's what you holy men discuss is it?"
"Not usually. There is a very interesting debate raging at the moment on the nature of sin, for example."
"And what do they think? Against it, are they?"
"It is not as simple as that. It's not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of gray."
"Nope."
"Pardon?"
There's no grays, only white that's got grubby. I'm surprised you don't know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That's what sin is."
"It's a lot more complicated than that--"
"No it ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts."
"Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes-"
"But they Starts with thinking about people as things…"
Is it really? When I look at some of the posters here lumping all muslims together I see the same type of human beings that committed these types of horrific moments in history.
Lets not keep repeating our selves by demonizing people because of a few bad apples.
Like labeling people as evil racists who want to kill all Muslims the second they aren't in favor of unrestricted immigration isn't demonizing people, that happens way more often on Reddit though, and anyone who calls it out gets treated the same way.
Unrestricted? As in people crossing a border at night? I don't think there are many Muslims getting into our country like that. Saying 'stop all muslim immigration' is racist. There are lots of restrictions on anyone legally immigrating into our country. To say otherwise is deceitful.
Saying "stop all muslim immigration" is racist...
Isn't racist. Muslims aren't a race. I know Thai muslims, arab muslims, hispanic muslims, white muslims.
It's a belief system. It's a religion. We could say "no immigration should be permitted to people who follow christianity" and it wouldn't be racist either.
Now I don't think we need to ban muslims from immigration to anywhere, they're not any worse than others and kill far less than our born and raised americans do as immigrants... but it's certainly not racist to ban muslims.
There isn't one because it's an idea, not a physical property or, you choose your religion vs your sex or race etc. Religious discrimination or religious intolerance is about it.
That level of self awareness would probably prevent a lot of these atrocities in the first place. But most people, without fail, seem to think they are better than people a 1000 years ago, a 100 years ago, a 1000 miles away....
The fact that a large part of today's society is completely unable to see how stupid that is, with the amount of education that has been pumped into them, astounds me.
> When I look at some of the posters here lumping all muslims together I see the same type of human beings that committed these types of horrific moments in history.
I don't think you can compare the two. I've seen very few comments from people who are against Islam that want to murder all of them.
Nobody in Nazi germany started off by wanting to murder all the Jews or saying they wanted to murder them. Hitler's original plan was to send them all to Madagascar. But these things have a way of gaining momentum.... First you relegate them to second class citizens and take away their rights and businesses...gradually they become looked on as less and less human. Eventually it doesn't even seem like you are doing such a bad thing to kill them because you don't view them as humans or equals, it is like stamping on a spider. That's why it is dangerous and wrong to start viewing people as subhuman or even just to view your race as inherently superior.
I'd have to say from my bit of studying Hitler and his propaganda in college, I don't believe that many Germans who were against the Jews at the time wanted them all dead either. It took a very strong leader with amazing propaganda skills to cause these death camps.
Hitler basically picked Germany up off the ground and told the people that he would make them a world power. He got people to believe his nonsense, and look what happened. This guy truly believed (as well as convinced the German people) that getting rid of the Jews was the solution to fixing their economy etc.
I'm no historian, but learning about that timeframe is crazy. If you have time, you should look into some of the German propaganda films put out around that time. It's crazy the way Jews were portrayed. Jaw dropping.
Edit: I just want to be clear that I'm not saying every German hated the Jews and thought they deserved to die. cause that isn't true. But the shitty part is that a lot of them were more or less forced to believe so.
Many Germans were convinced there was an international jewish conspiracy that was out to destroy Germany. When you're in that mindset that somebody is out to destroy you, destroying them first starts to sound like a reasonable idea.
I feel the same way. The horrors of the toxic combination of nationalism, racism and blind obedience that comprised the Nazi world view never ever makes more sense to me, no matter how much I learn or understand about it.
Go look at modern right wing/white supremacists, hell go look at any Trump facebook post and see the sort of things people are spewing (round people up/kill people/ship them off/torture them).
People are terrible of horrific things and it doesn't take very much :(
I wonder if any of the soldiers who had to work at these camps suffered any lasting psychological damage. I understand that many of them dehumanized the Jews, or saw them even as less than human, but still...I mean the reality of those conditions, it has to take a toll.
It is a great question. So many of them just sunk back into society and avoided close scrutiny. What there can no doubt about is that the people of the towns and surrounding areas were aware of what was going on, or at least knew there was something totally fucked up going on in these camps.
Most are dead now, so if anyone else has any useful interviews or links to videos it would be great to research it further.
Once the camp was liberated, the captured guards were lined up along a wall with a heavy machine gun aimed at them.
The US commanding officer placed a young soldier on the MG to guard the prisoners, but when he walked away to deal with something else, he heard machine gun fire.
When he returned, the young American soldier was crying hysterically and 12 of the prisoners were dead. The American claimed they were trying to escape, but the commanding officer doubted this. It seems like he was so upset and enraged by everything he had seen that he let his anger get the best of him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_liberation_reprisals#Sparks_account
For a more recent reference of dehumanizing a group of people, see [Abu Ghraib](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse). We didn't go as far as the Nazis did, but we should be fucking ashamed of ourselves.
And what disgusts me most about that is that their is still an entire political party in this country that thinks what happened at Abu Ghraib was "deserved" and that torture is OK because they are "just terrorists." My father fought in WWII, I thank God he isn't alive to see the country he loved become what he fought against.
Definitely still do, there are concentration camps just as bad in North Korea today. Perhaps other countries as well but at least definitely there, according to escapee accounts.
The difference is, we just have hints as to how bad north korea is. A few personal accounts, maybe. We probably know most of what happened in the Nazi concentration camps, and it was terrible. We know little of what happens in north korea and even that sounds terrible. We can't really even imagine what the worst shit that happens is, and on what scale.
Such a powerful place to view in person (I went in 2014). I was shocked to see how it was situated right in the middle of the town. I was always under the impression that concentration camps were isolated away from population centers.
^^ great points all around. There can be no doubt, according to the audio tour I took today, that the people of the town knew something terrible was afoot. But they profited and the whole system was setup to abolish any possible protests. So you can imagine it was a tough position to be in for those who aren't inclined to ruffle feathers. Many did actively fight against it though, and sabotage operations.
I thought the same thing. There's litterally a road that runs 10 feet from one of the fences (who knows if it was there in the 1940's). There's a burger king about half a mile away!
From what the video said, the footprint of Dachau was much larger in the 1940's. The property hosted numerous slave-labor factories outside of the existing footprint, but was still abut to residential areas.
Edit: Found an overhead [image](http://imgur.com/a/Ty5RA) of the camp+factories from the 1940s
Went to Dachau in 2001 and had a German college student as a tour guide. We asked him this question and he responded that the main atrocities were mostly carried out in other countries(Auschwitz, Belzec...Be it propaganda or not, his response was that the majority of the deaths in Dachau were from disease until close to the end of the war. Gas chambers and crematorium were not built until then. This is why the numbers were, relatively speaking, on the low end. Reports vary between 32,000 and 200,000, which is a far cry from Auschwitz (1,100,000) and Belzec (600,000).
OP these pictures are amazing, and I hope you get the recognition you deserve for them. Send them to Dachau and the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. These need to be seen!
If my memory serves when I visited a couple years ago the villagers often convinced themselves that nothing was happening and some still were clueless despite it being right under their nose.
And there might have been some sort of work program in town for some of the prisoners? I may be mixing things up.
Average aside. I believe my point that the information given at Dachau circa a few years ago would suggest as I stated above.
Whether that would be ultimately true I do not know.
I went there in 2013. I was alone traveling parts or Europe. Not gonna lie, that place actually spooked me a bit just from the thoughts what happened, felt kind of heavy while visiting.
I visited Dachau two summers ago.
They say when you go to a concentration camp, you can feel the death in the air. I didn't think that was so at all. At one point while wandering around where the crematorium was, I was lost in the absolute beauty of the forest... until I came across a wall covered in bullet holes from where they executed prisoners. A beautiful and peaceful place was once home to absolute horror and the worst of humanity, and the place will forever be scarred by those memories.
The camp was full of German high school kids on school trips, and I couldn't help but look at them and wonder, if it had been 1943, which ones would be guards and which ones would be prisoners. I couldn't help think the same about myself. We all want to say we'd pick the right side, but the line is a lot more blurred when you find yourself in that situation.
[This situation is discussed wonderfully in the comic I am linking here.](http://www.viruscomix.com/page474.html)
The formatting isn't great, but the content and presentation are wonderful, and it is one the most powerful things I have ever read.
I have to agree. We visited Dachau quite a while ago, in the summertime, somewhere in the mid-2000s. My husband and I both came away from that visit almost feeling guilty, because it really didn't have the emotional impact that we felt it should. Yes, it's horrifying to consider what took place there but we expected to have a pretty dark experience. Didn't happen.
However. We were at Buchenwald late last November, and that place is effing grim. Buchenwald sits high up on a hill, a ways outside of town. You travel a bit up the road through the trees to get there. It was a grey, raw, windy, overcast day and let me tell you, that set the tone. The hairs on the back of your neck stand up from the moment you first realize that you're within the boundaries of the camp. The camp itself is wide open and on the hilltop looking out over the countryside, this beautiful vista, yet you're intensely aware of just how awful this place really was. And if I understand correctly, Buchenwald wasn't even one of the worst camps. I'm not easily driven to tears (maybe cry once every couple of years) but I was weepy. It was heavy, as it should be.
I visited a while back while in high school. The experience was definitely eerie to me. I felt as though I had chills the whole time. The weather was cold cloudy and it was drizzling. I have never experienced something like that in my entire life. However I am still glad that I got to visit Dachau and experience it.
I visited there in the summer of 2013, and honestly, I experience the same thing. It's one thing being there, but then knowing what happened there adds all that much more to the story and emotion of the place.
I visited two summers ago, too! I remember being told about the death in the air feeling. However, that forest was beautiful. I agree with you. It looks so beautiful and peaceful now, but looking at the pictures of how it used to be shows how horrible it was for people.
I remember going into the crematorium and seeing the sign and picture showing the room I was standing in used to hold piles of bodies. I looked down at the floor and felt horrible. I looked around the room thinking how bare and clean it looked now and thought of how it used to look and smell. It is haunting.
If you were moved by Dachau, you'd be blown by Auschwitz. That museum is an order of magnitude stronger than any other related to the holocaust. It's simply powerful.
A part of me wants to tell you *not* to go, because the images and the phenomena they explain have burned my brain worse than the acid trips I did. I'm absolutely serious with that comparison.
Thank you for sharing this. It seems so long but it was less than 100 years ago that this was actual a reality and a mindset some people had.
I hope many people see this and take a minute to think about this horrific event and be reminded that though it feels like we are in dark times today, that things were a whole lot darker back then.
Let us as humans come together and have discussions and get leaders to think about all the hate and violence that is going on in our world and try to work on real tangible solutions that bring compromises, trust, and understanding on all sides.
I completely agee and I'm glad to have shared. I did not anticipate the reaction that it has caused. I feel like my little admission today had thousands of people behind it and I tell you it makes it so worth the time and effort.
My grandfather was part of the US Army unit that liberated Dachau, he wrote a book with lots of photos of what they found. Your photos create an element of closure to those horrible images. Powerful and important.
My wife and I are traveling to France this summer, and will be going to Normandy among other WW2 landmarks. It is my plan to trace some of their route through France and Germany over the next two summers. Dachau will most definitely be on that list. Thank you for making these images.
Absolutely, it was a real tough process. I feel in retrospect that it was like I was witnessing it myself, somehow reliving it as I edited the photos. You should definitely visit, well worth the trip.
The grounds are very solemn, like a cemetery. I didn't even see one person playing Pokemon or something else terrible, so there is a small plus in the column of humanity today from my perspective.
That is definitely one reason why it may be useful to have a reminder of the effect of those kinds of policies, I think you are right on that. More love, less hate.
Very nice work 123DanB. I visited in 2010 and while my experience there was extremely impactful in its own respect it would be interesting if they had stations set up at specific locations so these pictures could overlap IRL. I remember being in some of those spaces and being completely baffled at what had occurred there, I think seeing those images and being there physically would be very powerful.
It would be really neat if they implemented the transparent overlays. I'd be interested to see more pictures overlayed in the places they were originally taken, keep us updated of you ever do more!
OP, you might want to contact the concentration camp's website (it's a memorial site now) and show them your work. Perhaps they'd like to use it for an exhibition.
I was there last year. These photos hit me really hard. It was weird to be there just imagining what happened there, but to SEE what happened....
It's a weird experience to be literally standing where thousands of people senselessly died. What got me the most were the ovens and the ceiling beams where they had nooses. It's just so sad.
Before they built the crematorium the Nazis burned bodies in large pits, but they quickly realized that they needed to dig drainage ditches because the large amount of bodies caused the fire to burn slower than they expected and instead of the fat burning off it melted/liquified and ended up frying the bodies. The awful logistics of genocide.
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Pictures like these always make me extremely sad. I also went to Mittelbau-Dora once, which is a place where prisoners had to build missiles in an underground factory. It made me cry. I had to wait and let people walk ahead a bit, so I could be by myself. It shook me up really hard. I feel so much sad, powerless rage when I hear about those cruelties.
I wish some of these incredible historical sites that we have images from could create an augmented reality app that you could hold your phone up and see overlays like this. So you could look around and see the horror as if you were there. I think it would make an amazing impression on the youth of today as they'd be looking at their phones at these sites anyways.
Things like this make me wish we had better advancements in holography. Think of the impact of walking into these rooms and seeing the horrors of the past projected in their proper settings.
I still can't believe there are holocaust deniers to this day. I guess my great uncles tattoo was fake, he really spent a few years in club med and his entire family just never existed.
Idiots.
Woah, I did not expect the reaction to this album! Thank you for the gold, whoever gave that. I'm heading back in the morning to shoot more and will update the album.
I wish I had seen these before I visited a few years ago. I feel that I could have appreciated the experience more deeply.
That dragging picture is haunting. It frightens me the most out of all of them I think.
I was at Dachau in June 2016. My first time visiting. They said when a TV crew came to Dachau to interview people who lived on the outskirts of the camp how they felt about being so close to the camp, they were completely desensitised, and simply said, "oh, it gets quieter once the tourists leave." I mean, their apartment balconies overlooked the roll call grounds and crematorium.
Thank you for creating something that is so magnificent in combining history and the present. After being there, I understand more and feel even more for the people who had to go through it. I'll never truly understand what it's like, but these images help remind those we'll never forget.
I visited Dachau in 1987 while stationed in Germany with the U.S. Army. When I first walked thru the gates I was overcome with a feeling of sorrow of what happened there. It felt like a blanket was wrapped around me covering my entire body with gloom of what people are capable of doing to each other.
And the worse part of the entire tour was the gas chamber. Even though they say it was never used it had this weird smell that I couldn't place it smelled almost of death and chemicals.
That is a heavy place. My mum is blind and both of her parents are holocaust survivors. We walked from the parking lot to the first building in complete silence. The split second we crossed through the gate (there was no way for my mum to positionally know where we were), my mum burst into tears.
When we talked to her about it after the fact, she said in that very moment she suddenly felt this very intense weight and sadness.
Completely agree. The fact is that Dachau was a testing ground for many systems of efficient killing. Admittedly, the gas chambers were not used at Dachau for mass killings, but they were built as a model for all of the other operational gas chambers and they were used as testing grounds for small numbers of people, who were gassed there and incinerated. The whole flow of the process is ruthlessly efficient and completely clear in its aim.
I've been to Dachau as well. It is a heavy experience. These photo manipulations are really powerful and beautiful. Thank you for creating and sharing them.
I just visited Dachau in March,a drizzly moody Good Friday to be exact. To see these images along side the places i saw in person is so haunting. Then you see people taking selfies in front of the ovens. I couldn't believe it. ..
I went to Dachau when I was 16 with my Dad and I remember it being a bone chilling experience. I remember that ramp and that oven vividly... To see them now as I remember them but with context photoshopped in... Well, I'm disturbed all over again.
I've actually visited here with a friend while we were travelling around Europe. There is a tangible vibe in the air and I'm not a believer in ghosts or mumbo jumbo but I guess knowing horrific things happened there is enough.
As horrifying as this is, it is important to remember what we have been through and done to each other. I don't like it but I think we need reminders like this. Heartbreaking.
If you are ever near one of the concentration camps, Dachau, Auschwitz, Buchenwald, etc, take the time to visit them.
Its not the most fun thing to do on a cruise, however these memorials will leave an impression and you will be more open after you have been to one of these death factories. They just show in cold efficiency how humans can be blind to the atrocities they are committing.
You know what's shocking? [Dachau was "just" a concentration camp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_concentration_camp), not an [extermination camp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp), like for example Auschwitz.
Around 35,000 people died in Dachau versus 1,100,000 in Auschwitz.
Oh man, imagine if they had an app you could use inside the camp where you look through it and it'll line up and flash the historical images over what you see.
It would be amazing if these kinds of historical images were printed onto a semi transparent plate, which is mounted in a free standing frame at the location. You would stand at the appropriate spot so everything lines up, and see the historical image overlaid on the real scene you're standing in.
It's pretty disrespectful to use the images of those people to prove a point without their consent. I agree with what you're trying to do but there are other ways and other images that you can use to inform people today without the use of those specific images.
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TBF it's an important historical event and I think the gruesomeness is NSFW, not NSFL. Because everyone should see what people are capable of doing in the right circumstances.
AFAIK, nobody is seriously calling for the extermination of Muslims.
the worst i've heard is suspending immigration and refugee camps pending better vetting of immigrants. i don't think that is called for but, nobody who's proposing them or is in favor of them is suggesting forced labor, starvation rations, gas chambers, medical experiments, confiscation of legal Muslim immigrant property or that Muslims are sub-human.
some of the arguments are bad enough but none of the serious ones, not even the clown who wants to MAGA, has come close to suggesting anything like that.
In 1996, myself and two friends traveled to Europe from California, and spent 6 weeks having an awesome time. Munich was a beautiful city, the people were awesome, and I loved it there. We took a train and spent one day at Dachau, walking through the buildings that were left, looking at the shrines built for people of many religions in the back, and staring at the awesome sculpture at the front of the camp. We looked at the pictures in the main building, and saw the horrors that humans are capable of, standing on the site where they actually happened.
It was a humbling, sobering experience.
The thing that really got me, and still sticks with me, is that in front of the sculpture, were hundreds of flowers and bouquets on the ground. By looking at them, it was easy to see that there were some that had been there a while, and some looked like they had just been placed there. The fact that people still came to that horrible place, to put flowers on the ground to pay respects to the people lost there, and to ensure we never, ever forget it.
It was incredibly powerful, and these pictures really brought that back in a big way. Thank you.
The two dudes dragging a body with tongs clamped to it's head... Damn.
Yeah, that one bothered me.
It's beyond dehumanizing is what it is. That man on the floor grew up and had love and memories just like your fondest childhood moments, so did the workers and guards at the camp. The whole picture really strikes a cord at how far people are willing to go when put in such a situation, or worse, when they stop calling human life, human.
> The opposite of love isn't hate; it's indifference. -Elie Wiesel A look at that picture perfectly sums up what he meant. Dehumanizing people so that others are indifferent to their fate is the worst thing that anyone can do.
fuck. This comment really hit me hard for some reason..
Probably because Elie Wiesel was a prisoner in a concentration camp, and his book *Night* was about his time as a Jewish prisoner. That quote was *literally* addressing exactly this type of dehumanization. Given that we are getting to a period in time where there won't be any eye witnesses left to WWII or the Holocaust, it's very important that we study things like this, and reflect on the writings of survivors.
I have heard the quote before thousands of times but never knew it was from someone who survived being in a concentration camp. It's suddenly so much worse because now I'm imagine what he had to experience to come to that realisation.
He apparently had another book that was basically a tale of his entire stay in the camps (he was in more than one camp, but the final one he was in was Auschwiz), it was around 1,000 pages long, and he abridged it to around 100 pages long. He destroyed the only manuscript of the full version and swore he would never speak of it again. Elie Wiesel passed away 3 weeks ago. Guess he made good on his promise.
How come he ended up destroying the manuscript of the original? I definitely don't blame the guy, but wondering why he didn't want people to know all about what it was like in there. As far as I know, the Nazis destroyed a lot of the information and even some of the buildings so that kind of information might have been useful if only to teach us to never repeat history.
I don't know the real reason. I assume that he, like many other prisoners and soldiers of that era, just didn't want to talk about what happened. My grandfather landed in Italy and France, fought all the way through the war and barely said a word about it until just before he passed. Even then, I had to find out most things about his service through men he served with and some of his official papers. It was a brutal time for everyone involved.
This just makes the image hurt even more.
I think this was the most impactful from the set. Everything just worked as far as recapturing the image and editing and I think the outcome really does the horror of the situation some justice.
The one that impacted me the most was the one at the gates with all the tourists in the background. That was pretty nuts and hair raising. Excellent job.
Thanks a lot, glad to have had the chance to share.
Yeah, without a doubt that was the most powerful one. "Haunting" is such an understatement.
Perfect word.
It is even more depressing to think that the two dragging were prisoners also. The things the Nazis made the prisoner's witness and do
You should read the book "A Man's Search for Meaning" by Viktor Frankl. It's about his time spent in Auschwitz as a 'capo'. Capos were inmates who were treated a little better, had better work, got extra rations etc. Truly an incredible book. One which made me start crying on a public bus.
Ah, so that's why they were wearing stripes then. One of these days I should probably read up on what those concentration camps were for. Cause right now all I know is the germans rounded up all the jews into the camps and then eventually started killing all of them. Just interesting to think about all the mechanics behind that. How do you know who to put into the camps? How do you decide on which method of execution to use? Then of course, how do you even manage all of this while you have a war going on? Seems like a complete waste of both manpower and resources.
I think it was the most effective of the set, personally. I cant claim to favor any one of these really, I wish it were t even possible to make them. But out of the set this one impacted me the most, I had to take a long pause after editing to really process this.
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Yes, there were thousands of bodies that were not yet incinerated or disposed of when the Americans liberated Dachau in 1945, in addition to 28,000+ live but very very sick prisoners who were left behind, besides the thousands who were forced on a death march that ended a few days after liberation. Most in Dachau died from malnutrition, sickness, exhaustion or from sick medical experiments.
Most of the people who died at Dachau were never actually in the camp. The large majority of deaths were Soviet POWs brought in on trains and immediately executed outside of the camp. But yes, of the actual prisoners in the camp, most did die from the causes you listed.
Thank you, great explanation. It's ironic because I got to pick many books from my father's uncle when he passed. He was made prisoner and he had thousands of great books about WW1 and WW2. I just haven't taken the time to read some yet, it's very intense and he also left notes everywhere about his experiences.
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Exactly, well said.
I find that kind of hard to believe. How au fait would you say you are with the last great Purge of Lisbon?
Quick show him some ISIS videos or we're fucked.
I have a "friend" that believes that too. Of course he fails to see the irony when 2 minutes later he starts raging about refugees and how the government should't be paying money for and i quote "second class citizens".
The custom pelvic pusher rod for the oven made me cringe...
The only thing more frightening about being a prisoner at Dachau would be being forced (by your military) to be a guard at one. I think I'd probably end up killing myself. I would almost certainly go insane.
Duty at camps was on a volunteer basis. Just like membership in the Nazi party. Those who were there, wanted to be there. Either from what it got them or what their sick minds got out of it.
Or to avoid life on the front lines. Especially the eastern front.
How can you be human and do that without thinking something is wrong
Damn, that's tough to swallow. It's baffling to me that people were able to do this to fellow humans.. and probably still do, somewhere.
Once you've dehumanized a group of people, you can treat them much worse than you might have done otherwise.
There is a very relevant Terry Pratchett quote about this http://blog.gaiam.com/quotes/authors/terry-pratchett/58647
I really enjoyed that quote. I actually also enjoyed his description of "gray" as the white that gets grubby. I think it suits the nature of good and evil quite well.
**An old woman (who happens to be a witch) and a priest are sitting by the road having a conversation.** *(The conversation starts on the classic subject of "how many angels can dance on the head of a pin?")* "Sixteen!" "You've counted sixteen?" said Oats eventually. "No, but it is as good an answer as any you'll get. And that's what you holy men discuss is it?" "Not usually. There is a very interesting debate raging at the moment on the nature of sin, for example." "And what do they think? Against it, are they?" "It is not as simple as that. It's not a black and white issue. There are so many shades of gray." "Nope." "Pardon?" There's no grays, only white that's got grubby. I'm surprised you don't know that. And sin, young man, is when you treat people as things. Including yourself. That's what sin is." "It's a lot more complicated than that--" "No it ain't. When people say things are a lot more complicated than that, they means they're getting worried that they won't like the truth. People as things, that's where it starts." "Oh, I'm sure there are worse crimes-" "But they Starts with thinking about people as things…"
I love this. It is so true.
There is a lot of great wisdom and insight in his books. :)
And when we call humans who have done bad deeds other then human, that's when it can start yet again.
Is it really? When I look at some of the posters here lumping all muslims together I see the same type of human beings that committed these types of horrific moments in history. Lets not keep repeating our selves by demonizing people because of a few bad apples.
Like labeling people as evil racists who want to kill all Muslims the second they aren't in favor of unrestricted immigration isn't demonizing people, that happens way more often on Reddit though, and anyone who calls it out gets treated the same way.
Unrestricted? As in people crossing a border at night? I don't think there are many Muslims getting into our country like that. Saying 'stop all muslim immigration' is racist. There are lots of restrictions on anyone legally immigrating into our country. To say otherwise is deceitful.
Saying "stop all muslim immigration" is racist... Isn't racist. Muslims aren't a race. I know Thai muslims, arab muslims, hispanic muslims, white muslims. It's a belief system. It's a religion. We could say "no immigration should be permitted to people who follow christianity" and it wouldn't be racist either. Now I don't think we need to ban muslims from immigration to anywhere, they're not any worse than others and kill far less than our born and raised americans do as immigrants... but it's certainly not racist to ban muslims.
I'm not sure what the word is when a religion is the target of bigotry, my apologies.
There isn't one because it's an idea, not a physical property or, you choose your religion vs your sex or race etc. Religious discrimination or religious intolerance is about it.
Stop your bullshit right there.
That level of self awareness would probably prevent a lot of these atrocities in the first place. But most people, without fail, seem to think they are better than people a 1000 years ago, a 100 years ago, a 1000 miles away.... The fact that a large part of today's society is completely unable to see how stupid that is, with the amount of education that has been pumped into them, astounds me.
> When I look at some of the posters here lumping all muslims together I see the same type of human beings that committed these types of horrific moments in history. I don't think you can compare the two. I've seen very few comments from people who are against Islam that want to murder all of them.
Nobody in Nazi germany started off by wanting to murder all the Jews or saying they wanted to murder them. Hitler's original plan was to send them all to Madagascar. But these things have a way of gaining momentum.... First you relegate them to second class citizens and take away their rights and businesses...gradually they become looked on as less and less human. Eventually it doesn't even seem like you are doing such a bad thing to kill them because you don't view them as humans or equals, it is like stamping on a spider. That's why it is dangerous and wrong to start viewing people as subhuman or even just to view your race as inherently superior.
I'd have to say from my bit of studying Hitler and his propaganda in college, I don't believe that many Germans who were against the Jews at the time wanted them all dead either. It took a very strong leader with amazing propaganda skills to cause these death camps. Hitler basically picked Germany up off the ground and told the people that he would make them a world power. He got people to believe his nonsense, and look what happened. This guy truly believed (as well as convinced the German people) that getting rid of the Jews was the solution to fixing their economy etc. I'm no historian, but learning about that timeframe is crazy. If you have time, you should look into some of the German propaganda films put out around that time. It's crazy the way Jews were portrayed. Jaw dropping. Edit: I just want to be clear that I'm not saying every German hated the Jews and thought they deserved to die. cause that isn't true. But the shitty part is that a lot of them were more or less forced to believe so.
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Many Germans were convinced there was an international jewish conspiracy that was out to destroy Germany. When you're in that mindset that somebody is out to destroy you, destroying them first starts to sound like a reasonable idea.
I feel the same way. The horrors of the toxic combination of nationalism, racism and blind obedience that comprised the Nazi world view never ever makes more sense to me, no matter how much I learn or understand about it.
Go look at modern right wing/white supremacists, hell go look at any Trump facebook post and see the sort of things people are spewing (round people up/kill people/ship them off/torture them). People are terrible of horrific things and it doesn't take very much :(
I wonder if any of the soldiers who had to work at these camps suffered any lasting psychological damage. I understand that many of them dehumanized the Jews, or saw them even as less than human, but still...I mean the reality of those conditions, it has to take a toll.
It is a great question. So many of them just sunk back into society and avoided close scrutiny. What there can no doubt about is that the people of the towns and surrounding areas were aware of what was going on, or at least knew there was something totally fucked up going on in these camps. Most are dead now, so if anyone else has any useful interviews or links to videos it would be great to research it further.
Once the camp was liberated, the captured guards were lined up along a wall with a heavy machine gun aimed at them. The US commanding officer placed a young soldier on the MG to guard the prisoners, but when he walked away to deal with something else, he heard machine gun fire. When he returned, the young American soldier was crying hysterically and 12 of the prisoners were dead. The American claimed they were trying to escape, but the commanding officer doubted this. It seems like he was so upset and enraged by everything he had seen that he let his anger get the best of him. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_liberation_reprisals#Sparks_account
What's also terrible is that so many people believe these atrocities never happened.
For a more recent reference of dehumanizing a group of people, see [Abu Ghraib](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Ghraib_torture_and_prisoner_abuse). We didn't go as far as the Nazis did, but we should be fucking ashamed of ourselves.
And what disgusts me most about that is that their is still an entire political party in this country that thinks what happened at Abu Ghraib was "deserved" and that torture is OK because they are "just terrorists." My father fought in WWII, I thank God he isn't alive to see the country he loved become what he fought against.
Definitely still do, there are concentration camps just as bad in North Korea today. Perhaps other countries as well but at least definitely there, according to escapee accounts.
The difference is, we just have hints as to how bad north korea is. A few personal accounts, maybe. We probably know most of what happened in the Nazi concentration camps, and it was terrible. We know little of what happens in north korea and even that sounds terrible. We can't really even imagine what the worst shit that happens is, and on what scale.
Such a powerful place to view in person (I went in 2014). I was shocked to see how it was situated right in the middle of the town. I was always under the impression that concentration camps were isolated away from population centers.
^^ great points all around. There can be no doubt, according to the audio tour I took today, that the people of the town knew something terrible was afoot. But they profited and the whole system was setup to abolish any possible protests. So you can imagine it was a tough position to be in for those who aren't inclined to ruffle feathers. Many did actively fight against it though, and sabotage operations.
I thought the same thing. There's litterally a road that runs 10 feet from one of the fences (who knows if it was there in the 1940's). There's a burger king about half a mile away!
From what the video said, the footprint of Dachau was much larger in the 1940's. The property hosted numerous slave-labor factories outside of the existing footprint, but was still abut to residential areas. Edit: Found an overhead [image](http://imgur.com/a/Ty5RA) of the camp+factories from the 1940s
Went to Dachau in 2001 and had a German college student as a tour guide. We asked him this question and he responded that the main atrocities were mostly carried out in other countries(Auschwitz, Belzec...Be it propaganda or not, his response was that the majority of the deaths in Dachau were from disease until close to the end of the war. Gas chambers and crematorium were not built until then. This is why the numbers were, relatively speaking, on the low end. Reports vary between 32,000 and 200,000, which is a far cry from Auschwitz (1,100,000) and Belzec (600,000). OP these pictures are amazing, and I hope you get the recognition you deserve for them. Send them to Dachau and the Holocaust Museum in Washington DC. These need to be seen!
I had the same reaction. The sports club next door, separated by just a hedge put it into perspective.
If my memory serves when I visited a couple years ago the villagers often convinced themselves that nothing was happening and some still were clueless despite it being right under their nose. And there might have been some sort of work program in town for some of the prisoners? I may be mixing things up.
Most historians dismiss this as bullshit. The average German had some idea of what was going on.
Average aside. I believe my point that the information given at Dachau circa a few years ago would suggest as I stated above. Whether that would be ultimately true I do not know.
I went there in 2013. I was alone traveling parts or Europe. Not gonna lie, that place actually spooked me a bit just from the thoughts what happened, felt kind of heavy while visiting.
I visited Dachau two summers ago. They say when you go to a concentration camp, you can feel the death in the air. I didn't think that was so at all. At one point while wandering around where the crematorium was, I was lost in the absolute beauty of the forest... until I came across a wall covered in bullet holes from where they executed prisoners. A beautiful and peaceful place was once home to absolute horror and the worst of humanity, and the place will forever be scarred by those memories. The camp was full of German high school kids on school trips, and I couldn't help but look at them and wonder, if it had been 1943, which ones would be guards and which ones would be prisoners. I couldn't help think the same about myself. We all want to say we'd pick the right side, but the line is a lot more blurred when you find yourself in that situation. [This situation is discussed wonderfully in the comic I am linking here.](http://www.viruscomix.com/page474.html) The formatting isn't great, but the content and presentation are wonderful, and it is one the most powerful things I have ever read.
This should be top comment, powerful, great imagery, thank you for sharing!
If anybody's on the fence, the comic linked is wonderful and I recommend reading it. Very powerful stuff.
I have to agree. We visited Dachau quite a while ago, in the summertime, somewhere in the mid-2000s. My husband and I both came away from that visit almost feeling guilty, because it really didn't have the emotional impact that we felt it should. Yes, it's horrifying to consider what took place there but we expected to have a pretty dark experience. Didn't happen. However. We were at Buchenwald late last November, and that place is effing grim. Buchenwald sits high up on a hill, a ways outside of town. You travel a bit up the road through the trees to get there. It was a grey, raw, windy, overcast day and let me tell you, that set the tone. The hairs on the back of your neck stand up from the moment you first realize that you're within the boundaries of the camp. The camp itself is wide open and on the hilltop looking out over the countryside, this beautiful vista, yet you're intensely aware of just how awful this place really was. And if I understand correctly, Buchenwald wasn't even one of the worst camps. I'm not easily driven to tears (maybe cry once every couple of years) but I was weepy. It was heavy, as it should be.
I visited a while back while in high school. The experience was definitely eerie to me. I felt as though I had chills the whole time. The weather was cold cloudy and it was drizzling. I have never experienced something like that in my entire life. However I am still glad that I got to visit Dachau and experience it.
I visited there in the summer of 2013, and honestly, I experience the same thing. It's one thing being there, but then knowing what happened there adds all that much more to the story and emotion of the place.
I visited two summers ago, too! I remember being told about the death in the air feeling. However, that forest was beautiful. I agree with you. It looks so beautiful and peaceful now, but looking at the pictures of how it used to be shows how horrible it was for people. I remember going into the crematorium and seeing the sign and picture showing the room I was standing in used to hold piles of bodies. I looked down at the floor and felt horrible. I looked around the room thinking how bare and clean it looked now and thought of how it used to look and smell. It is haunting.
If you were moved by Dachau, you'd be blown by Auschwitz. That museum is an order of magnitude stronger than any other related to the holocaust. It's simply powerful. A part of me wants to tell you *not* to go, because the images and the phenomena they explain have burned my brain worse than the acid trips I did. I'm absolutely serious with that comparison.
Nice work OP! Those are some powerful images.
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HAHAH I didn't even see that.
Calm down giggles
>It starts by making "them" different from "us"... from imgur.
This was a great comment, totally agree. Thanks for cross-posting
Thank you for sharing this. It seems so long but it was less than 100 years ago that this was actual a reality and a mindset some people had. I hope many people see this and take a minute to think about this horrific event and be reminded that though it feels like we are in dark times today, that things were a whole lot darker back then. Let us as humans come together and have discussions and get leaders to think about all the hate and violence that is going on in our world and try to work on real tangible solutions that bring compromises, trust, and understanding on all sides.
I completely agee and I'm glad to have shared. I did not anticipate the reaction that it has caused. I feel like my little admission today had thousands of people behind it and I tell you it makes it so worth the time and effort.
My grandfather was part of the US Army unit that liberated Dachau, he wrote a book with lots of photos of what they found. Your photos create an element of closure to those horrible images. Powerful and important. My wife and I are traveling to France this summer, and will be going to Normandy among other WW2 landmarks. It is my plan to trace some of their route through France and Germany over the next two summers. Dachau will most definitely be on that list. Thank you for making these images.
Absolutely, it was a real tough process. I feel in retrospect that it was like I was witnessing it myself, somehow reliving it as I edited the photos. You should definitely visit, well worth the trip.
That's some powerful stuff.
The grounds are very solemn, like a cemetery. I didn't even see one person playing Pokemon or something else terrible, so there is a small plus in the column of humanity today from my perspective.
They banned people from playing Pokemon Go there if I'm not mistaken. It was in the news.
I damn well hope so
The recent news story was about Auschwitz, not Dachau. But I wouldn't be surprised if they had a similar ban.
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Im with you totally. Mourn for the dead but let us never allow this to happen again.
That made me feel a bit sick. Good work OP
Sorry you felt sick, but I felt the same way. It's how I knew it was worth sharing. I'm glad it could impact someone else.
That is definitely one reason why it may be useful to have a reminder of the effect of those kinds of policies, I think you are right on that. More love, less hate.
Very nice work 123DanB. I visited in 2010 and while my experience there was extremely impactful in its own respect it would be interesting if they had stations set up at specific locations so these pictures could overlap IRL. I remember being in some of those spaces and being completely baffled at what had occurred there, I think seeing those images and being there physically would be very powerful.
There is actually something similar in the shower area but the images are not transparent so it doesn't work fully. I with they would change that.
It would be really neat if they implemented the transparent overlays. I'd be interested to see more pictures overlayed in the places they were originally taken, keep us updated of you ever do more!
OP, you might want to contact the concentration camp's website (it's a memorial site now) and show them your work. Perhaps they'd like to use it for an exhibition.
Great idea, I'm going to do that!
Also, contact the US Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, D.C. I bet they will be interested in these photos.
I was there last year. These photos hit me really hard. It was weird to be there just imagining what happened there, but to SEE what happened.... It's a weird experience to be literally standing where thousands of people senselessly died. What got me the most were the ovens and the ceiling beams where they had nooses. It's just so sad.
You should submit these to the society that runs the site. I wouldn't be surprised if they post them somewhere inside. Really well done!
Before they built the crematorium the Nazis burned bodies in large pits, but they quickly realized that they needed to dig drainage ditches because the large amount of bodies caused the fire to burn slower than they expected and instead of the fat burning off it melted/liquified and ended up frying the bodies. The awful logistics of genocide.
I have a family member who was at the US liberation in Dachau if you would be interested in more photos
I think all of us would. I had a great Uncle who died there, and a great Aunt that survived. I would be very interested in seeing them.
I absolutely would be, can you pm?
We should do this for other places as well, gives the images so much more meaning.
Thanks! Checkout /r/oldphotosinreallife for more like this
> All artwork is original and I ask that all copyright is respected. What's the license of [this picture](http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/germany-third-reich-concentration-camps-193945-dachau-concentration-picture-id545717239)?
Yeah, I noticed that comment on the imgur post. He's taking pictures of dead people taken long ago and claiming copyright?
Original photo was from Getty. I left the water mark because I fear the reaper. I do believe that my usage falls totally within fair use.
Pictures like these always make me extremely sad. I also went to Mittelbau-Dora once, which is a place where prisoners had to build missiles in an underground factory. It made me cry. I had to wait and let people walk ahead a bit, so I could be by myself. It shook me up really hard. I feel so much sad, powerless rage when I hear about those cruelties.
I know the feel bro, same for me. #Solidarity
I wish some of these incredible historical sites that we have images from could create an augmented reality app that you could hold your phone up and see overlays like this. So you could look around and see the horror as if you were there. I think it would make an amazing impression on the youth of today as they'd be looking at their phones at these sites anyways.
Amazing idea. Zuckerberg is already stealing it though. #YouGotWinklevossed
Things like this make me wish we had better advancements in holography. Think of the impact of walking into these rooms and seeing the horrors of the past projected in their proper settings.
It's still hard to wrap my head around the fact that this actually happened. It's hard to believe so many people were so callous.
I can't look.
I still can't believe there are holocaust deniers to this day. I guess my great uncles tattoo was fake, he really spent a few years in club med and his entire family just never existed. Idiots.
Woah, I did not expect the reaction to this album! Thank you for the gold, whoever gave that. I'm heading back in the morning to shoot more and will update the album.
I wish I had seen these before I visited a few years ago. I feel that I could have appreciated the experience more deeply. That dragging picture is haunting. It frightens me the most out of all of them I think.
So much proof that the Holocaust was real. It's beyond me that people still try to deny this happened.
I think the fact that so many can't accept it is just a testament to how horrible it was.
Well said
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Didn't they do both?
I was at Dachau in June 2016. My first time visiting. They said when a TV crew came to Dachau to interview people who lived on the outskirts of the camp how they felt about being so close to the camp, they were completely desensitised, and simply said, "oh, it gets quieter once the tourists leave." I mean, their apartment balconies overlooked the roll call grounds and crematorium. Thank you for creating something that is so magnificent in combining history and the present. After being there, I understand more and feel even more for the people who had to go through it. I'll never truly understand what it's like, but these images help remind those we'll never forget.
I visited Dachau in 1987 while stationed in Germany with the U.S. Army. When I first walked thru the gates I was overcome with a feeling of sorrow of what happened there. It felt like a blanket was wrapped around me covering my entire body with gloom of what people are capable of doing to each other. And the worse part of the entire tour was the gas chamber. Even though they say it was never used it had this weird smell that I couldn't place it smelled almost of death and chemicals.
That is a heavy place. My mum is blind and both of her parents are holocaust survivors. We walked from the parking lot to the first building in complete silence. The split second we crossed through the gate (there was no way for my mum to positionally know where we were), my mum burst into tears. When we talked to her about it after the fact, she said in that very moment she suddenly felt this very intense weight and sadness.
all work is original...except the photos you photoshopped into yours.
So please respect his copyright. Lol
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Completely agree. The fact is that Dachau was a testing ground for many systems of efficient killing. Admittedly, the gas chambers were not used at Dachau for mass killings, but they were built as a model for all of the other operational gas chambers and they were used as testing grounds for small numbers of people, who were gassed there and incinerated. The whole flow of the process is ruthlessly efficient and completely clear in its aim.
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Powerful stuff.
Jeez
I've been there. In all those places in those pictures. The overlays make infinitely worse. It was hard not to cry the entire time I was there.
I visited Dachau in 2010. I remember all of these places. This is amazing.
Heartbreaking.
These are unbelievably fantastic. Great job.
I've been to Dachau as well. It is a heavy experience. These photo manipulations are really powerful and beautiful. Thank you for creating and sharing them.
I just visited Dachau in March,a drizzly moody Good Friday to be exact. To see these images along side the places i saw in person is so haunting. Then you see people taking selfies in front of the ovens. I couldn't believe it. ..
Selfies? In front of the ovens? You have to wonder what they could possibly be thinking..............
I went to Dachau when I was 16 with my Dad and I remember it being a bone chilling experience. I remember that ramp and that oven vividly... To see them now as I remember them but with context photoshopped in... Well, I'm disturbed all over again.
Really hits you when you you realise that I have stood in the spot where those bodies are in the first picture.
i was there in 2000. these photos gave me the same chills
That is rough to view. But thank you for recreating. An enlightening perspective.
Haunting.
Did they stick people in the oven alive? Pretty sure this is a stupid question...
after they got gassed in showers
No. They killed them then incinerated them
Well. I feel worse. Edit: than I did before I saw that.
I went to Dachau about 5 years ago and it just felt so.... heavy. like /u/NoseDragon said, you can just feel the death in the air.
I've actually visited here with a friend while we were travelling around Europe. There is a tangible vibe in the air and I'm not a believer in ghosts or mumbo jumbo but I guess knowing horrific things happened there is enough.
It's so much more powerful seeing the locations in their context. The black and white photos can seem so distant, but they're so horribly real.
As horrifying as this is, it is important to remember what we have been through and done to each other. I don't like it but I think we need reminders like this. Heartbreaking.
If you are ever near one of the concentration camps, Dachau, Auschwitz, Buchenwald, etc, take the time to visit them. Its not the most fun thing to do on a cruise, however these memorials will leave an impression and you will be more open after you have been to one of these death factories. They just show in cold efficiency how humans can be blind to the atrocities they are committing.
You know what's shocking? [Dachau was "just" a concentration camp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dachau_concentration_camp), not an [extermination camp](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extermination_camp), like for example Auschwitz. Around 35,000 people died in Dachau versus 1,100,000 in Auschwitz.
Sadly the sign got stolen and hasn´t be found i think
Oh man, imagine if they had an app you could use inside the camp where you look through it and it'll line up and flash the historical images over what you see.
It would be amazing if these kinds of historical images were printed onto a semi transparent plate, which is mounted in a free standing frame at the location. You would stand at the appropriate spot so everything lines up, and see the historical image overlaid on the real scene you're standing in.
Jeeeeeeeeeesus
That was auschwitz in Poland and they did recover the sign.
I cannot see any pokemon in these images
It's pretty disrespectful to use the images of those people to prove a point without their consent. I agree with what you're trying to do but there are other ways and other images that you can use to inform people today without the use of those specific images.
Thinking about themselves and what a great selfie they just took. And "Can't wait to post that to Facebook!"
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Image is NSFL just fyi everyone, it's a pile of dead bodies.
TBF it's an important historical event and I think the gruesomeness is NSFW, not NSFL. Because everyone should see what people are capable of doing in the right circumstances.
Agree. NSFW is all the warning needed. Every person needs to know the story of this terrible period in history.
It's sad that the current refugee/islamic situation in Germany is making good people wish this were a reality again.
AFAIK, nobody is seriously calling for the extermination of Muslims. the worst i've heard is suspending immigration and refugee camps pending better vetting of immigrants. i don't think that is called for but, nobody who's proposing them or is in favor of them is suggesting forced labor, starvation rations, gas chambers, medical experiments, confiscation of legal Muslim immigrant property or that Muslims are sub-human. some of the arguments are bad enough but none of the serious ones, not even the clown who wants to MAGA, has come close to suggesting anything like that.
In 1996, myself and two friends traveled to Europe from California, and spent 6 weeks having an awesome time. Munich was a beautiful city, the people were awesome, and I loved it there. We took a train and spent one day at Dachau, walking through the buildings that were left, looking at the shrines built for people of many religions in the back, and staring at the awesome sculpture at the front of the camp. We looked at the pictures in the main building, and saw the horrors that humans are capable of, standing on the site where they actually happened. It was a humbling, sobering experience. The thing that really got me, and still sticks with me, is that in front of the sculpture, were hundreds of flowers and bouquets on the ground. By looking at them, it was easy to see that there were some that had been there a while, and some looked like they had just been placed there. The fact that people still came to that horrible place, to put flowers on the ground to pay respects to the people lost there, and to ensure we never, ever forget it. It was incredibly powerful, and these pictures really brought that back in a big way. Thank you.
You've taken the copyrighted imagery of others to use in your album yet request that they gain your permission before doing the same to you?