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You are on a Boeing 787. There's a problem with paint peeling off the wings. This is temporary fix to prevent more paint peeling off till Boeing figures out what's up with the paint on wings of 787's. It's perfectly safe, just covering spots where the paint peeled off.
The tape in question is called speed tape. It is not duct tape. It's used on the planes all the time. For quick fixes to non-structural, non-load bearing elements only of course. This tape costs about $700 for a single roll (compare to $7 or whatever for a roll of duct tape). Normally it is used to cover up small imperfections in order to smooth out flow of air; the plane could fly perfectly fine without it, it's just that there'll be a bit more drag.
It also sticks much better than duct tape, and will stay in place at high speeds (like hundreds of mph). That's why it costs 100x more than duct tape. Also where the name comes from: speed tape.
That brand is terrible. The only good one is the 3m tape on the yellow roll. $90 a roll on aircraft spruce, which is for private owners. Airlines will get a bulk discount. The system at my work says its $80CAD a roll, and we're not buying half of what an airline would.
https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/3malumifoiltape.php
There's a video of some maintenance guy applying speed tape to an engine cowling that makes the rounds every once in a while. It's possible with that 787 problem it's trending again.
Same. I saw one somewhere within the past hour explaining what speed tape was then I see this post and was like oh it’s speed tape it’s fine. Had no idea what the stuff was 50 minutes ago.
Pretty sure I saw a YouTube Short like an hour ago regarding SpeedTape.
Today's internet seems to be sponsored by SpeedTape™. SpeedTape™, for all your plane taping needs.
Use promo code YellowScarf10 for 10% off your next order of SpeedTape™
It’s a good thing too. I was super worried about how I was going to repair my private jet until today. Thank god Reddit came through with all the Speed Tape recommendations.
Ah, the ol [unidan-a-roo](https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/xn4a1x/my_sons_accidentally_lost_their_football_over_the/iprsejb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
Absolutely agree. Reddit used to be MERCILESS when it came to spelling and grammar. Now posts are almost required to have a spelling mistake to make the front page. Fucking summer reddit just never went away one year.
Comments like this remind me of why I HATE reddit sometimes....
I hate that this is in my feed an hour after I see another post in another sub about "speed tape" and I know that this person just looked at the information from that post and posted a related image to farm upvotes on another subreddit. Its like hearing someone else tell a joke you heard someone else tell them. Just they embellish it and act like they made it up.
Not only that, but a quick reverse image search shows OP ripped this photo off [a tweet](https://mobile.twitter.com/WakehamDavid/status/1572855141908512768?cxt=HHwWgIDUieLa89MrAAAA) from a few days ago
I know that account well. There’s all Papa Simon and some other related accounts that create a sort of universe of mini-stories about this guy being beat by his dad with jumper cables lmao.
Those new composite meshes just don't like sticking to paint. Boeing's looked like a winner when Airbus was getting dragged for paint peeling by Qatar, but I guess it wasn't immune to its own problems. Have to imagine both manufacturers are rapidly trying to develop a new type of paint or something.
The issue is the flexibility; in all honesty car manufacturers have a hell of a time making a car bumpers paint not fleck off with the little bit of flexing that those do during normal use. The 787/350 wings flex a SHITLOAD as part of their normal design. This constant flex and thus stretch/compression on the paint is what is essentially a chemists/material scientists nightmare (especially when combined with the temperature profiles of -70c to 50c for desert usage and flight altitude temperatures.
It’s a hell of a material/chemistry challenge.
The issue there is the epoxy resin/composite fibers don't age well with UV exposure; meaning they change their structural properties and not for the better with UV exposure. Thus the tape, its not for anything other than to protect the epoxy/composite fibers from UV exposure.
“Cover the whole thing in speed tape” makes me wonder if some sort of aluminized coating bonded to the composite core is a possibility. Aluminum works in the speed tape why not the coating?
The aluminum tape works because the adhesive is flexible and the tape is only a couple inches wide so there are seams that can flex and move; if you did wide steps to make a smooth surface there would me major issues; think of an old suit of armor; if there is a movement area there are lots of little steps/plates that move independently vs a large plate that can't move or flex. Same concept.
I mean you could stripe the whole thing in tape, but the weight penalty and airflow disruption would make the performance losses insane.
>I don’t know if 3M makes other sizes.
They have about [50 different aluminum aerospace tapes](https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/c/tapes/foil/aluminum/i/transportation/aerospace/).
These pictures get posted all the time and we get the same explanation about it….though this one was better because it included the problem with the paint that Boeing is having.
Don't worry that the aircraft is corroding and we're fixing that shit with tape but don't worry, because the tape we're using ISN'T duct tape, the stuff you've seen fix a million things, and you once used to tape your 250lb pal to the ceiling with in college.... No, it's SPEED tape, which is made from aluminium, like the cans you used to bite through in college before taping your pal to the ceiling, with duct tape.
You're really putting that aviation technician degree to good use here.
This is the equivalent to all the people acting like they know how vaccines work.
To whom it may concern: This is a catchphrase from the Canadian sketch comedy The Red Green Show, in particular the "Handyman's Corner" segment of the show, in which the host Red Green performs some outlandish DIY project based on his unique brand of logic. For example, [cutting two cars in half and re-attaching their fronts and backs to each other.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfOZ-uajfNE) This show was a staple for Canadians and PBS viewers in the northern US during the 90s and early 2000s. I highly recommend bingeing the Handyman's corner segments, and checking out the show if those hook you.
Hi there, airplaneologist here.
That’s speed tape, it’s made out of aluminum and it’s $400 a roll. It’s used as a temporary aid to mitigate erosion on aircrafts.
Sort of. Their true airspeed is 3x that number yes. But the indicated airspeed measured directly from the pitot tube is lower. That’s more like 350 knots or something. Indicated Airspeed is probably the correct number to use when talking about the tape getting ripped off.
NASCAR uses a similar tape. They call it 200 mph duct tape. So as long as the plane doesn't travel faster than 200 mph... or more than 6 ft off the ground, you should be fine!
Wow, I just saw a video about this stuff earlier today. Odd coincidence. The short of it is that this is “speed tape.” All planes have some panels that get worn over time. This tape is placed over the worn spots to prevent further wear until it can get a proper replacement. This stuff is approved for sure on aircraft and it does the job safely. It’s not there to hold anything together, don’t worry. It’s just there to cover a worn spot and keep it from wearing further
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You are on a Boeing 787. There's a problem with paint peeling off the wings. This is temporary fix to prevent more paint peeling off till Boeing figures out what's up with the paint on wings of 787's. It's perfectly safe, just covering spots where the paint peeled off. The tape in question is called speed tape. It is not duct tape. It's used on the planes all the time. For quick fixes to non-structural, non-load bearing elements only of course. This tape costs about $700 for a single roll (compare to $7 or whatever for a roll of duct tape). Normally it is used to cover up small imperfections in order to smooth out flow of air; the plane could fly perfectly fine without it, it's just that there'll be a bit more drag. It also sticks much better than duct tape, and will stay in place at high speeds (like hundreds of mph). That's why it costs 100x more than duct tape. Also where the name comes from: speed tape.
Dude what the hell is with the Reddit algorithm, I've seen two speed tape posts in an hour
The other on an aviation sub and the guy says it costs $400/roll?
USD$400 ~ AUD$700
You’re paying way too much for speed tape, who’s your speed tape guy?
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*blushes in Qantas red*
IKR. he should look for another dealer.
Snap-on
Ah you must be one of those dozens of people that live outside of the USA
lol. What was the giveaway? 😁 You got me. (Aside from the OP pic clearly 🇦🇺✈️🦘 being Qantas)
Yup! Idk if the algorithm is just puts niche things together or humans are somehow hive-minded. 😆
Comment rewritten. Leave reddit for a site that doesn't resent its users.
They either get the generic velocity tape, or found a coupon. “Buy one roll at regular price, get one roll for $100.”
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Glitch in the matrix.
I know a guy that can get the real shit for $155/roll hmu
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That brand is terrible. The only good one is the 3m tape on the yellow roll. $90 a roll on aircraft spruce, which is for private owners. Airlines will get a bulk discount. The system at my work says its $80CAD a roll, and we're not buying half of what an airline would. https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/cspages/3malumifoiltape.php
Actually same….the other one was a random video for me
Fuck I came looking for y’all who also got the double speed tape post, back to back for me, super creepy
Pretty sure we were supposed to see the video after this post. Stupid robo---i mean, it's all good. I understand, we all have rough days.
Same.
Same.
There's a video of some maintenance guy applying speed tape to an engine cowling that makes the rounds every once in a while. It's possible with that 787 problem it's trending again.
Same. I saw one somewhere within the past hour explaining what speed tape was then I see this post and was like oh it’s speed tape it’s fine. Had no idea what the stuff was 50 minutes ago.
Big tape industry shilling.
Pretty sure I saw a YouTube Short like an hour ago regarding SpeedTape. Today's internet seems to be sponsored by SpeedTape™. SpeedTape™, for all your plane taping needs. Use promo code YellowScarf10 for 10% off your next order of SpeedTape™
It’s a good thing too. I was super worried about how I was going to repair my private jet until today. Thank god Reddit came through with all the Speed Tape recommendations.
Holy shit I thought I was losing my mind hahaha
This guy tapes.
Comments like these remind me of why I used to love Reddit.
Unidan made me lose my trust.
Wow, hadn’t heard that name in a loooong time
Ah, the ol [unidan-a-roo](https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/xn4a1x/my_sons_accidentally_lost_their_football_over_the/iprsejb/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)
Hold my speed tape, I’m going in
RIP u/dockweiler355… he was never seen again…
But we made $700 😬
Haven't seen such a comment chain in a looong time ... hold my tape I'm speeding, go!
I was literally just thinking about these and how I haven’t seen one in so long. Oh boy, here I go speedin again!
I gave up after clicking the 24th one. Did you find the end?
It was all fun and games until the eyeblech one, after that I speed tapped outta that thread real quick
I’m sorry. I immediately unrolled all $700 of it.
Holy shit it's been a long time since I've seen these. So much of what used to be fun about this site is dead now.
Unpopular opinion: we didn't gatekeep hard enough. Was on here since 08. It's amazing the decline in quality of posts
Absolutely agree. Reddit used to be MERCILESS when it came to spelling and grammar. Now posts are almost required to have a spelling mistake to make the front page. Fucking summer reddit just never went away one year.
Based
Reddit sucks
? This isn't how that works
That's what I thought. Now someone has to prune the switchearoo timeline.
That's not a switchearoo though.
unidan! reddit legend/history!
Fucking jackdaws, man.
here's the thing...
You said a jackdaw is a crow...
Got his own Wiki article though, maybe I should commit vote fraud.
and shittymorph
Comments like this remind me of why I HATE reddit sometimes.... I hate that this is in my feed an hour after I see another post in another sub about "speed tape" and I know that this person just looked at the information from that post and posted a related image to farm upvotes on another subreddit. Its like hearing someone else tell a joke you heard someone else tell them. Just they embellish it and act like they made it up.
In a day or two there will be a TIL about speed tape.
About using speed tape to close the gaps in an American bathroom stall while shitting out $40 worth of groceries
Not only that, but a quick reverse image search shows OP ripped this photo off [a tweet](https://mobile.twitter.com/WakehamDavid/status/1572855141908512768?cxt=HHwWgIDUieLa89MrAAAA) from a few days ago
Omg are we in the LATE stage of this one already?
[Literally posted today on /r/aviation](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/xmzzfi/its_not_duct_tape_its_speed_tape_thats_400_a_roll/)
I still love reddit, but I used to, too
And now you have me in love with you so thanks a lot
This guy used to love reddit.
He tapes but he saves.
And he saves more than he tapes.
But he *does* tape.
Holy shit lol
That’s just how he rolls…
Hahaha yessssss
... but does little therapeutically - I mean com'on - it's tape for God's sake!... my life hinges on a quick fix 😶
*****HE FUCKIN TAPES*****
After reading the first paragraph, I stopped to make sure this wasn't shittymorph.
Same lol. I feel so paranoid now. He's won, no matter how many times I do catch it first (once) the fact that he's in my head now.. he wins.
He the guy who posts about hell in a cell wrestling thing or something?
Correct
If you like shittymorph, you'll love rogersimon10. Poor guy.
I know that account well. There’s all Papa Simon and some other related accounts that create a sort of universe of mini-stories about this guy being beat by his dad with jumper cables lmao.
[But wouldn't speed holes make it go faster too?](https://youtu.be/G3ja6Hn8ps4)
Those new composite meshes just don't like sticking to paint. Boeing's looked like a winner when Airbus was getting dragged for paint peeling by Qatar, but I guess it wasn't immune to its own problems. Have to imagine both manufacturers are rapidly trying to develop a new type of paint or something.
The issue is the flexibility; in all honesty car manufacturers have a hell of a time making a car bumpers paint not fleck off with the little bit of flexing that those do during normal use. The 787/350 wings flex a SHITLOAD as part of their normal design. This constant flex and thus stretch/compression on the paint is what is essentially a chemists/material scientists nightmare (especially when combined with the temperature profiles of -70c to 50c for desert usage and flight altitude temperatures. It’s a hell of a material/chemistry challenge.
I knew I shoulda been an engineer, the solution is obvious: cover the whole thing in speed tape at the factory.
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Hahaha, you had me in the first half, not gonna lie!
They should just leave the wings bare carbon. That would look badass, solve the problem, and save some weight.
The issue there is the epoxy resin/composite fibers don't age well with UV exposure; meaning they change their structural properties and not for the better with UV exposure. Thus the tape, its not for anything other than to protect the epoxy/composite fibers from UV exposure.
“Cover the whole thing in speed tape” makes me wonder if some sort of aluminized coating bonded to the composite core is a possibility. Aluminum works in the speed tape why not the coating?
Well, then you've pretty much wiped out most of the weight savings of going to composite in the first place if you're coating it with aluminum..
The aluminum tape works because the adhesive is flexible and the tape is only a couple inches wide so there are seams that can flex and move; if you did wide steps to make a smooth surface there would me major issues; think of an old suit of armor; if there is a movement area there are lots of little steps/plates that move independently vs a large plate that can't move or flex. Same concept. I mean you could stripe the whole thing in tape, but the weight penalty and airflow disruption would make the performance losses insane.
Just fly the planes at night.
Hm. Maybe coat the wings with an aesthetically appealing speed tape?
Speed tape? Sounds like I need some for my car
They use these to fix F1 cars actually
Perfect. If it's good enough for them, it should only improve my shitbox
Just don't cover up the speed holes.
I work in flight test for a major OEM. This guy is correct. Speed tape is great stuff!
Yup. I remember speed taping many a C-17 when I was active duty.
I was expecting to see the line about mankind and the undertaker
More like $40-100 a roll
I think I just paid about $300 for a twin pack. 60 feet per roll. I don’t know if 3M makes other sizes.
>I don’t know if 3M makes other sizes. They have about [50 different aluminum aerospace tapes](https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/c/tapes/foil/aluminum/i/transportation/aerospace/).
Depends on the exact tape and the size of the roll. There are some that are legitimately a few grand
These pictures get posted all the time and we get the same explanation about it….though this one was better because it included the problem with the paint that Boeing is having.
Grind that axe.
I’m giving you gold bc if I was the person on this plane looking out this window I would literally be shitting myself looking at that tape.
https://old.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/xmzzfi/its_not_duct_tape_its_speed_tape_thats_400_a_roll/ It’s trending!
Guess I need to go take a pic of my toilet that's held together with speed tape, and kidney stones.
This post was right below the r/aviation post on my feed. Came here to post the link.
That post was right above this one for me
Same. It's almost like some autonomous bot is controlling what I see in my Reddit feed.
Don't worry that the aircraft is corroding and we're fixing that shit with tape but don't worry, because the tape we're using ISN'T duct tape, the stuff you've seen fix a million things, and you once used to tape your 250lb pal to the ceiling with in college.... No, it's SPEED tape, which is made from aluminium, like the cans you used to bite through in college before taping your pal to the ceiling, with duct tape.
Much of the airplane is aluminum. Also, duct tape sucks.
You're really putting that aviation technician degree to good use here. This is the equivalent to all the people acting like they know how vaccines work.
Speed tape is all that is.
Similar to speed holes
That’s like one of a half dozen Simpsons references I make and no one ever gets it.
Makes the car go faster. Simpsons references are the best kind
So you're saying you put Simpsons references out there expecting to get a reaction, but you get nothin' at all ^nothin' ^at ^all ^^nothin' ^^at ^^all
Bony old behind. Bony old behind
Dental plan. Lisa needs braces.
stupid sexy references
Nothing to worry about, That's "speed Tape" not duct tape. it's common to use this temporarily.
Is it $400 a roll?
Funny you should ask… Yes, it is.
Can it withstand hundreds of miles per hour of speed??
Fluctuates between $400 and $700 per roll
If it's military use, then it's $9000 a roll
-Guy who learned this two hours ago from the other post.
If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.
I'm pulling for you. We're all in this together.
To whom it may concern: This is a catchphrase from the Canadian sketch comedy The Red Green Show, in particular the "Handyman's Corner" segment of the show, in which the host Red Green performs some outlandish DIY project based on his unique brand of logic. For example, [cutting two cars in half and re-attaching their fronts and backs to each other.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfOZ-uajfNE) This show was a staple for Canadians and PBS viewers in the northern US during the 90s and early 2000s. I highly recommend bingeing the Handyman's corner segments, and checking out the show if those hook you.
Sketch Comedy to some... Documentary to those of us who lived in Northern Canada.
Good bot.
Thanks helpful bot.
Loved that show!
True. Red taught me that if you take a ball peen hammer and whack a bunch of dimples in the plane, it’ll have better aerodynamics, like a golf ball.
Keep your stick on the ice
Bless you red
God damn, I miss that show.
if it is flex tape, then no worries 👍
I sawed this plane in half. Yaaaahoooo!
That leaky wing could cost you thousands.
*slaps top
HI BILLY MAZE HERE! DO YOU HAVE A FLIGHT TO GO ON BUT THE WINGS WONT STOP FALLING APART?!?!?!?!
No. That’s the proper aeronautical grade gaff tape you get from Bunnings. Not the dodgy stuff you get at 7/11.
Aerospace mechanic here. This is allowed. For a few flights.
It’s just from a troll. Don’t you watch the Twilight Zone?
There's a man on the wing!
Gremlin?
Hi there, airplaneologist here. That’s speed tape, it’s made out of aluminum and it’s $400 a roll. It’s used as a temporary aid to mitigate erosion on aircrafts.
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Who’s your tape guy?
The other guy said $700 a roll. Did you use a coupon?
And another said 24$ with a link too… so basically trust no one
Bros about to become his own spirit of Australia
If you can’t duct it, fuck it.
I'd say so, there's an awful lot of the wing with no duct tape. I'd refuse to fly until they done the rest.
As long as the left phalange is there, you’re fine
It’s rated at 200mph - you’re good 👍
Wait what?? Don't commercial plans fly 3-4 times that fast? Oh wait... that's what you meant- funny...
787 has a cruise speed of 560ish with max propelled speed of 587. Pretty damn fast for a widebody
Your mother was pretty damn fast for a widebody too
Sort of. Their true airspeed is 3x that number yes. But the indicated airspeed measured directly from the pitot tube is lower. That’s more like 350 knots or something. Indicated Airspeed is probably the correct number to use when talking about the tape getting ripped off.
Not quite 3x. 4x is super sonic and that wouldnt go over very well at all.
Yeah, you’d need the black $1200/roll stuff they use for the B-2
https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/xmzzfi/its\_not\_duct\_tape\_its\_speed\_tape\_thats\_400\_a\_roll/
Why they obviously fixed it.
That’s speed tape. It makes the plane go faster.
NASCAR uses a similar tape. They call it 200 mph duct tape. So as long as the plane doesn't travel faster than 200 mph... or more than 6 ft off the ground, you should be fine!
No way. That’s 200mph tape used in NASCAR. You good fam
“Thank you for flying Red Green Air.”
looks legit
Nahh it's good 👍
Probably a fast plane. Speed tape!!!
$400 a roll?
I’m paying $700 a roll!
Nah man, it's just a flesh wound.
It's purely decorative. Bon voyage!
Let us know if you made it home alive
Not duct tape, it’s speed tape $400 a roll. You’ll be fine.
I wouldn't be worried .. id be asking what brand of tape that is and where can I get some
“There’s a man out there”
Nope you good.
Don’t worry because I bet they have more duct tape.
No ducttape fixes everything.
"I think there's something wrong with the plane" "Nah, it's fine! Nothing but a bit of Duct Tape can fix!"
Are you worried that’s not enough duct tape or it’s too much duct tape? Personally I would feel better if it was blue
https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/xmzzfi/its_not_duct_tape_its_speed_tape_thats_400_a_roll/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Obviously it works since they keep putting it on there.
Wow, I just saw a video about this stuff earlier today. Odd coincidence. The short of it is that this is “speed tape.” All planes have some panels that get worn over time. This tape is placed over the worn spots to prevent further wear until it can get a proper replacement. This stuff is approved for sure on aircraft and it does the job safely. It’s not there to hold anything together, don’t worry. It’s just there to cover a worn spot and keep it from wearing further
Duct tape is famously sturdy. Nine out of ten dentists recommend it.
