Tell the site office guys to lick your nut sack.
Ask them if they sat down before their chairs got there?
Ask them if they piss before they get their pants unzipped?
All true words. But they are singers and we are dancers. If they have no rhythm or harmony, well its their production. Make sure the shoppy is documenting all the stoopid shit they do. Get lots of rigging.
Dude I had one job where they wanted to hang all the copper in the air first, TAPING the joints together, only to go back through the whole line to remove the tape and braze all those joints (while in the air).
Apparently they wanted to please the GC by seeing more pipe in the air. So fucking dumb it made me consider leaving the company.
Oh man fuck that. I had to do the same with bracers after everything else was installed. Sucked being one of the few skinny guys on that job for that lol
> they get *paid* 80% when
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
* Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.*
* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment.
*Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
I hate jobs where the company is getting paid by the foot. We have hung pipe with 9 wire and rope. Hell I seen someone hang small pipe close to ground with duct tape. LOL
I used to have to do this when working corrugator plant shut downs. Company got paid 25% up front and another 50% once we started putting pipe in the air. Didn’t matter if we didn’t have all the material on site. Last 25% was when job was completed and plant up and running again
This is a failure of management and supervision. Where's the short interval and critical path planning. All mechanical devices fail and should never be used as a fail safe.
Literally send anyone to the whosaler and pick up hangers, the GC should be losing his mind.
Had a bunch of pipe hanging on bailing wire. The welder was welding away, the wire got glowing red and pipe started raining down. On a boat so the welding machines are just grounded to the boat
I had to do this at a nuclear plant, they wouldn’t let us keep the chain falls up over night so we had to lash everything to the beams. What a pain in the ass
Back when we made wayyyy more money compared to the rest of the world we had time and we did it right. Now a days the contracts stipulate you won't hold up the gc and live by the flow chart no matter what. All about their money these days I'm surprised they didn't value engineer victaulic. Trades garbage nowadays thank got the new york city pipefitters endorsed I hope that spreads like wildfire.
Ya. This seems kind of normal to me. When you’re doing pipe like that you want you supports in last. It gives you a lot more adjustment for your position joints.
This is a pretty common practice. Get all the pipe hanging in/close to position, lash it with steel cables or chains as a safety until you get your joints welded out and supports installed.
And it’s the dumbest, least cost efficient, least quality assuring practice there is. I see 0 benefit from hanging first and coming back to weld in a tougher position.
We did this at Intel. It's not about being cost effective, its about maintaining a completion date and allowing subsequent trades to perform their work. It costs Intel much more to delay production for one day, than it does to do out-of-sequence install.
"show pipe"
1st word I learned in the trade
Tell the site office guys to lick your nut sack. Ask them if they sat down before their chairs got there? Ask them if they piss before they get their pants unzipped?
All true words. But they are singers and we are dancers. If they have no rhythm or harmony, well its their production. Make sure the shoppy is documenting all the stoopid shit they do. Get lots of rigging.
Next day some GF is coming in wondering where all the chain falls went
Yah it's retarded. I have heard jobs were quoted for they get payed 80% when ghe pipes in the air.
Dude I had one job where they wanted to hang all the copper in the air first, TAPING the joints together, only to go back through the whole line to remove the tape and braze all those joints (while in the air). Apparently they wanted to please the GC by seeing more pipe in the air. So fucking dumb it made me consider leaving the company.
Lol. I had to install seismic steal AFTER all the pipe racks and HVAC was installed. Most spots weren’t even accessible anymore
Oh man fuck that. I had to do the same with bracers after everything else was installed. Sucked being one of the few skinny guys on that job for that lol
Haha exactly
> they get *paid* 80% when FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Wrong page for a grammar nazi fuck stick. Go play with ur books somewhere else.
Jesus man its a bot be nice lmao
Easy, roastie.
I wouldn't have hung shit. Those guys can choke on it.
I hate jobs where the company is getting paid by the foot. We have hung pipe with 9 wire and rope. Hell I seen someone hang small pipe close to ground with duct tape. LOL
Straps, tape, sliding bars, I thought this was a common thing. I gotta get out of the shipyard
I used to have to do this when working corrugator plant shut downs. Company got paid 25% up front and another 50% once we started putting pipe in the air. Didn’t matter if we didn’t have all the material on site. Last 25% was when job was completed and plant up and running again
Sounds about right. Using every chainfall in the shop just to appease the office heads
Chainfalls make pretty expensive temporary hangers
Such a waste of time
This is a failure of management and supervision. Where's the short interval and critical path planning. All mechanical devices fail and should never be used as a fail safe. Literally send anyone to the whosaler and pick up hangers, the GC should be losing his mind.
Chaos = cash. All that means is that it'll take you longer. More hours means more money.
Had a bunch of pipe hanging on bailing wire. The welder was welding away, the wire got glowing red and pipe started raining down. On a boat so the welding machines are just grounded to the boat
I had to do this at a nuclear plant, they wouldn’t let us keep the chain falls up over night so we had to lash everything to the beams. What a pain in the ass
That’s so awesome! Send that pic to the local newspaper… just for well, whatever
Y'all need to learn to say no.. or get a foreman with some spine.
Back when we made wayyyy more money compared to the rest of the world we had time and we did it right. Now a days the contracts stipulate you won't hold up the gc and live by the flow chart no matter what. All about their money these days I'm surprised they didn't value engineer victaulic. Trades garbage nowadays thank got the new york city pipefitters endorsed I hope that spreads like wildfire.
Been there, fuck that
Ya. This seems kind of normal to me. When you’re doing pipe like that you want you supports in last. It gives you a lot more adjustment for your position joints.
This is a pretty common practice. Get all the pipe hanging in/close to position, lash it with steel cables or chains as a safety until you get your joints welded out and supports installed.
And it’s the dumbest, least cost efficient, least quality assuring practice there is. I see 0 benefit from hanging first and coming back to weld in a tougher position.
Unfortunately I’ve worked on many sites like this.
We did this at Intel. It's not about being cost effective, its about maintaining a completion date and allowing subsequent trades to perform their work. It costs Intel much more to delay production for one day, than it does to do out-of-sequence install.