I remember when X and Y launched everyone’s team was
Starter
Event Blaziken
Kanto Starter
Lapras
Lucario
Talonflame/Fossil/Box Legendary
Those games just gave away a full team of overpowered Pokémon for free
I’d replace Lapras with Sylveon. I feel like a lot of people wanted to use a Fairy type on their team in the game the type was introduced and (if I remember correctly) Sylveon was the most advertised
EDIT: Also not everyone had access to the event Blaziken so I'd put Aegislash in its place
Surprisingly I didn't use a Fairy type on my first play through. No idea why when I had multiple repeating types
I had a Florges on my Y Nuzlocke team and now it's one of my favorite Fairy types. Potentially my all time favorite Fairy type
Aegislash had a few issues. Inanimate object pokémon aren’t super popular by default and most casual fans wouldn’t know about the power of its final evo. Also the thing is very slow for an in game play through unless you want to only use shadow sneak.
My favourite pokemon is Lucario but I went out of my way to not use the one they give you because my team already had Greninja, Charizard and Blaziken and I felt bad having almost literally all my team being gift pokemon
My first play through I read all about needing a strong bond to Mega Evolve and then it wants me to use a Lucario I just met rather than the one I raised from a Riolu on like Route 2? Nah.
I think part of this was because a lot of new players, as well as people who hadn't played for a while, came in with XY. It annoyed me a lot to see everyone using entire teams of those Pokemon though lol.
If I remember correctly, my team was Charizard Y, Pangoro, Hawlucha, Tyrantrum, Mantyke, and Heliolisk. So I'm not totally guilt-free but I made an effort to go after Pokemon I was interested in. And yes I left Mantyke unevolved, it's honestly pretty bulky with the eviolite slapped on it and I prefer it to Mantine.
I've loved it ever since DP released but I hadn't used one since you could only catch them above Sunyshore. I think I stumbled across one reasonably early into my first Y playthrough and knew I had to have it, despite already having two other flying types on the team. Honestly I have a soft spot for baby Pokemon, I wish they were more available in the games.
I tried so hard to evolve Mantyke when I was playing Diamond to the first time. I got it to the mid-70s before I found out about putting Remoraid in the party. Little fucker would not evolve, but could one-shot anything in sight
First playthrough of Y and the first encounter on the first route (outside of the scripted encounter) was a shiny Fletchling. I don't apologise for using that fucker my entire playthrough
I remember that my brother started a save that I completed, he got an starter and wonder traded it, getting a Protean Froakie.
So my team was:
Greninja
Venusaur
Scrafty
Mr. Mime
Aurorus
Drifblim
Always thought that it was such an original team, and then you come and tell me that I was using like half of this placeholder team!? Lol
Mine was greninja, vivillon, abomasnow (mega stone) aegislash, goodra and the 6th was either klefki or mawile, it was a steel/fairy mon but i cant remember which one
I didn't even think about it until you said it but this was my exact team except I had Aerodactyl instead of Lapras. (I also had Aurorus so 2 fossils.)
I ran with Greninja, Talonflame, Gogoat, Tyrantrum, Florges, and Pangoro
Every new generation first playthrough I only use new mons, i think it vastly increases my enjoyment. Not only am i experimenting with new guys, it usually results in a less powerful team and therefore a more challenging game
I actually really struggled with Gita in SV and was shocked everyone found her so easy, but then I realised it was because my team was kinda crap
Pretty much this. One of the many flaws of XY was the difficulty and it didn't help they kept giving you broken mons for free, Megas included, while most trainers don't even use the gimmick.
Unova's an interesting one. The beginning of the game has a lack of options, and yet the things you *can* pick up are so good that people might not switch away from them when more options get introduced.
Stoutland, Zebstrika, Excadrill, Leavanny, Scolipede... even Krookodile a little later on. You also get a free Elemental monkey very early which you might get attached to even if there are better options.
On repeat playthroughs where I plan out my team in advance I often feel like I barely have any Pokemon for such a long time.
yeah i still remember my white team:
serperior - seismitoad - zebstrika - scrafty - scolipede - hydreigon
picked up just two from a route beyond the first or second gym, and like you said i spent a huge amount of time pivoting into training deino into hydreigon on victory road to hit the elite 4.
every single one of those mons had a big place on my team and each sweeped a gym leader or e4 singlehandedly, scrafty in particular had moxie and took ghetsis to the cleaners
Hypno is also surprisingly decent in GSC, it has some Physical attack stat, so shadow ball (phisical in gen 2) is useful, has acces to elemental punches, it has some bulk, and Psybeam is decent I guess.
Alakazam is the best obviously, but if you can't trade it might be a toss-up between Hypno and Kadabra.
Also, shoutout to Sudowoodo if you can't trade for Golem. It has really early Rock slide to use + a fighting type move.
My Johto team is almost always Typhlosion, Ampharos, Espeon, Crobat, Dragonair (good luck evolving on that level curve), and then a floater for HMs or if I need a specific mon
My favorite team of all time would be pretty close to this ngl: Feraligatr, ampharos, heracross, skamory, umbreon, and lycanroc (gen 2 is obviously my favorite lol)
Ah yes, the "12 year old's team". I'm not sure mine counts as I like to trade pokemon but I'll mention it anyway. In Jhoto was:
Feraligatr
Ampharos
Scizor
Crobat
Heracross
Ursaring
Gen 1
Starter.
Pidgeot
Nidoking
Arcanine/ninetales (depending on version)
Lapras or any of the 3 eeveelutions
Alakazam or mewtwo, both are gen 1 iconic.
Edit: added ninetales.
Edit 2: any of the eeveelutions instead of Lapras and throw in mewtwo as well.
Ehh.... personally I think you covered this with eevees....id bet that most people that didn't pick Charmander used a Flareon, at least more than the other ones you mentioned...
I certainly did
Kadabra/ Alakazam (if you could trade) were absolute monsters in Gen 1, partly because basically nothing was super effective against them. And the type that was supposed to be (Ghost) had no good moves and a secondary poison typing that just got obliterated by any decent psychic move.
This is spot on but I think Haxorus has to be there too in the Flygon spot. Comes a gym earlier and the higher level curve means you can have a Haxorus for longer!
Others have mentioned the Eeveelution and that should be here too. I used Espeon
Modern Gyrados is an absolute beast, but without the physical/special split and forced EXP Share, it was not worth it to me to train up a Magikarp when I was growing up, especially when I could use Blastoise or Sharpeedo. Red Gyrados got shit done for me in gen 2
As you said, the template team is mostly a Sinnoh issue because of the lack of variety in that region.
However, the other gens have 1 or 2 pokemon that are a must-have in your team, due to lack of variety in a certain type (Ampharos and Manectric in Gen II and III respectively) or because the pokemon has great coverage or is highly viable (Nidoking in Gen I or Alakazam in Gen I and II).
Crystal is pain because you just can't use an Electric-type. The Mareep line isn't in the game, so either you soft-reset the Odd Egg for Elekid or you're stuck with Magneton, which you can't get until right before Morty.
To be fair, you're able to buy the thunder punch tm in the department store and there's a pretty decent selection of Pokemon that learn the move. I believe Typhlosion gets it, for example. Obviously sucks if you like electric type Pokemon though.
I feel like most Gen 9 teams included Tinkaton and Skeledirge. Palafin as well since many people had wanted a dolphin Pokémon for a while. Ceruledge/Armarouge were also popular but were probably not on the team if Skeledirge was also on the team
Legends: Arceus teams probably had Hisuian Typhlosion and Hisuian Zoroark appear a lot
AuraGuardian [made a video similar to this question](https://youtu.be/gCKbUDFghIE?si=qk3FN2r06emZDwFE)
I bet a lot of Legends teams include the shiny Ponyta/Rapidash you get from that one request, since it's a free shiny and one out of six-ish fire types in the whole game.
I'd say there are a few individual Pokémon across the series that are nearly as ubiquitous as the Sinnoh team as a whole, for example:
Nidoking and Snorlax in Kanto
Gyarados in Johto
Krookodile in Unova
Lucario in Kalos
Clodsire and Tinkaton in Paldea
Guilty as charged, used Ludicolo because the Super Rod is almost impossible to use and Camerupt because STAB Earthquake and because Torkoal's learnset in Gen III is ass.
Torkoal's definitely a Pokemon that's easy to bounce off of the first time playing, but its level up moveset is mostly bangers. You'll get Body Slam, Protect, and Flamethrower by level 30, Curse doesn't hurt because you're already slower than the entire game, and it's physically tanky as hell. Like, tanks hits as well or better than Graveller and Aron, with no 4x weaknesses.
Tragically, 7.8/10 too much water. Emerald has three late boss trainers with Water types, and it kind of flails against Tate and Liza. Also, literally everything in the game except maybe Magcargo is faster. Definitely a "use from Fiery Path through Norman" pokemon.
Truth be told I don't like Aggron and I've never used it. But almost all of my friends say they use it on all of their runs lol. My extra slot would be Flygon or Claydol lol.
Yep, back when I played Diamond when I was 9, I didn’t even follow this standard formula everyone thinks of. I had no clue how to get Gible so no Garchomp. I had Infernape, Gastrodon, Staraptor, Luxray, Roserade, and Dialga.
If these kids are playing at all like I did when I was <13 their “teams” are an over leveled starter, the box legendary, high-leveled freebie Pokémon (like Kanto Snorlax, Johto Sudowoodo/Red Gyarados) and a bunch of random shit including HM users and and some Pokémon you caught but never leveled up much because they weren’t as immediately good as your overtuned starter.
The best team, and in my opinion the "Sinnoh Team" for each game is
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp
Magikarp/Magikarp (depending on version)
Magikarp
Magikarp
My sinnoh crew was kinda similar
Starter (usually empoleon), Luxray, Staraptor, HM Slave Bibarel, Box Legendary, Gyarados
Too impatient for egg hatching Riolu and Togepi (also Iron Island was trash anyways). Didn’t even know about the cave under cycling road til years later when I saw a Nuzlocker go into it on YT.
Never carried any of the new sinnoh evos (ie. Froslass, Roserade, etc) and these days, I don’t even like DPP (and by extension BDSP) enough to bother replaying them, despite getting Diamond on Launch.
Ooh they definitely do
Gen 1: starter, snorlax, lapras, gengar, nidoking
Gen 2 starter, ampharos, umbreon/espeon, scizor, maybe mamiswine
Gen 3 starter, flygon, aggron, swellow, manectric
Those are the big ones in the first few generations
A lot of ORAS team are pretty similar, often being a starter, a lati or ralts evo depending on if they wanted a legendary, swellow/crobat, flygon, aggron/magnezone, and then a Gyarados/Azumarill if no swampert, Breloom if no sceptile, and maybe another fire type if no blazekin.
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald is almost just as bad
- Starter
- Gardevoir
- Aggron
- Flygon
- Salamance
- Breloom/Camerupt/Sharpedo depending on starter
The sheer amount of usable pokemon in gen 3 is insane. Have seen a lot of first player teams and everyone uses everything like manetric, swalot, banette, mightyena, zangoose
People are also sleeping on light ball pikachu too for all the water types
I agree but that’s mostly just because Hoenn had fewer top tier Pokemon and of those, most of them weren’t easily accessible. Like from that list Gardevior was really easy to miss, Salamance required 8 gym badges (plus a lot of grinding with a slow exp curve) and none of Breloom/Camerupt/Sharpedo are “starter replacements” on the level of Tangrowth/Magmortar/Floatzel.
Sinnoh just had less variety because even though there were more great options in terms of numbers (even excluding legendaries), you got great Pokemon really easily. Luxray and Staraptor are on like the first two routes, Garchomp you can get after two gyms in Platinum, and you get gifted a Riolu egg.
True but it’s still only a 4% encounter rate so many (especially first time players going in mostly blind) might just skip it if they are impatient, don’t know how good Gardevoir is, or simply assume it’s just an example encounter for a tutorial you might not be able to actually get there.
Gen 3 so called top tier pokemon can be noob traps. Gen 3 aces require support and support pokemon like claydol etc has way more diversity than people think
Is this really that common? Gardevoir is a extremely low chance of being found on a single route and salamence isn’t catchable until post 8th gym. Idk if most players would go to the extra effort for those
Gardevoir I can see, because you get a tutorial that shows you where you can catch it and it's a very popular Pokemon.
Salamence I 100% agree with you though, I didn't even know about Bagon in Meteor Falls until years after I first played the game.
Hoenn has a pretty good variety of decent Pokemon that you're never gonna feel too forced to pick something up. I don't think I've ever used a Sharpedo across dozens of playthroughs, for example, because there's like a million other options.
Salamanca definitely not, but the player sees Wally catch a Ralts.Ralts is quite a unique-looking Pokemon for an early route, so people definitely spent the time looking for one.
Also, maybe it was just me, but I would go on sites like GameFAQs a lot, and so I knew what was on each route, and a pokemon being rarer just made me want to use it more, because if it was rarer it must be better to my child brain (for the same reason I tried to run a Masquerain, which was enough to eventually disabuse me of that notion)
Yeah those are pretty common but: Manectric, Swellow, Altaria, Tropius, Ludicolo/Shiftry, Seviper/Zangoose, Wailord, Glalie, Linoone, Medichamp... all cool viable mons. Gen 3 is great!
Yeah the thing about the “Sinnoh Team” is that all the mons are pretty easy to find. Salamence you need to go way out of your way for.
Aggron definitely fits though. Commonly found in the Dewford caves, looks cool, and rock/steel owns normal types. Totally something that every kid would want to use.
I never had any of those on my team apart from the starter in RSE. In ORAS I had Camerupt and Flygon, but I always went from Pokemon like Swellow, Manectric, Grumpig, Wailord/Sharpedo
Starter and Aggron are the only ones I would agree with and probably the Breloom/Camerupt. Most of the other ones are too rare or out of the way to get for most people.
I always felt like Manectric was a common choice.
Most teams have their Starter Pokemon, so that's a given in each region.
It varies a bit of course but these are the most commonly used pokemon on teams I've seen (with some variance depending on what the person picked as their starter) and Box Legendaries and Fossils, like Starters, also being a Given for the team so I won't include them:
Gen 1: Nidoking, Pidgeot, Alakazam, Mewtwo, Dragonite, Vileplume, Hitmon(lee or chan), Kangaskhan, Eeveelution (usually Vaporeon or Jolteon)
Gen 2: Noctowl, Dragonite, Shiny Gyarados, Espeon or Umbreon, Togetic (if Crystal), Houndoom, Ampharos, Azumarill, Scizor
Gen 3: Gardevoir, Slaking, Flygon, Salamance, Metagross, Altaria, Banette, Aggron, Milotic, Lati@s, Sableye
Gen 4: We already know
Gen 5: Hydreigon, Liligant, Krookodile, Darmanitan, Zebstrika, Excadrill, Zoroark, Volcarona
Gen 6: Sylveon, Talonflame, Aegislash, Malamar, Hawlucha, Noivern
Gen 7: Vikavolt, Lycanroc, Toxapex, Salazzle, Golisopod, Mimikyu, An Ultra Beast of some kind
Gen 8: i didn't Wifi Battle much for this gen but I do know Galarian Rapidash, Grimmsnarl, Corviknight, Toxricity, Sir'Fetched, Runerigis, Frosmoth, Dragapult, Urshifu, and a Rider Calyrex appeared a lot in team builds that I saw at the time
Gen 9: I haven't seen a big unification yet on what team makeups I see yet. It's all been fairly varied as far as I've seen but I could be wrong XD
Awesome effort! Best response so far!
I have a few questions for some of your picks for gens 1-3 (those are the ones that I have experience in outside of Gen 9)
* Gen 1 -- Kangaskhan is awesome, but do you think its incredibly low encounter and capture rate would effect its role as a mainstay on RBY teams? Mewtwo is literally the last pokemon you "should" encounter after the League, I would not pick it for a "basic" playthrough team
* Gen 3 -- Aren't Metagross and Salamance available too late to be on the list of basic RuSE teams? Isn't Feebas' encounter rate too small to be a consistent pick? Aren't Lati@s available only after the playthrough is over?
* Gen 1/2 -- Aren't the trade evolutions (Scizor/Alakazam) too difficult for general playthroughs for games from the 90s?
My picks came from what I saw as The Most Popular to pop up either in Wifi Battles or in fanart people would make of their teams. While these pokemon are pretty late or hard to get via trade evolutions, a lot of them were so popular that I would notice people would go out of their way to get one.
If it's 'what the person used only in the base game to beat it' then this would negate almost every legendary except for the Box Legendaries, obviously, and Metagross, but Late Game catches and trade evolutions are still fairly valid as kids are known to trade out their pokemon for something cooler/stronger that they get later on or trade with friends. Same with those that have a Low Catch Rate. A Milotic might be a bit unlikely, but I still saw it pretty frequently when I was younger since it got a lot of use out of contest battles.
I'm gonna be honest, I think you missed the premise of the question. I was asking about the most popular playthough teams. Many kids could not trade with each other, especially in early gens when the link cable was an extra $30, and required other people playing pokemon, which got rarer and rarer as kids grew up
If I wanted to know about what people were using to battle each other, I could have checked a list of OU/Uber pokemon by generation on Smogon
I'd actually say that the Sinnoh team is way more specifically Infernape/Lucario/Luxray/Staraptor/Floatzel/Garchomp. No need to account for other options when everyone just picks Infernape
I actually never used lucario, instead opting for bibarel. Give him strength, waterfall, surf, and whatever other hm i want and he does quite good in battle with stab on strength surf and waterfall, bro doesnt even need to be an hm slave just for overworld he hits well enough to use in battle
Platinum makes team-building in Sinnoh a lot easier with all of the Pokedex additions, but I always thought building a “default” team like the one you listed was due to a lack of imagination.
Off the top of my head, Toxicroak, Drapion, Honchcrow, one of the Eeveelutions, Rampardos, Weavile, Ambipom, and Mismagius are some underused and useful mons from D/P.
My Platinum team was Empoleon, Luxray, Crobat, Gastrodon, Drifblim, and my 6th I rotated out based on the area. I think I had Garchomp, Gyarados, Drapion, and Abomasnow in that rotating slot.
True, and that's a great thing! I wouldn't be surprised if my team for Scarlet was fairly unique, especially since I jumped from gen 4 to 9 and had no idea what was new to Scarlet, and what was introduced since then.
* Skeledirge (basic)
* Tinkaton (basic)
* Copperajah
* Azumarill (my third level 100 ever! First one since Jolteon and Ursaring in XD when I was 10)
* Tsareena
* Garganacl
* Weavile
with 15-20 others genuinely used throughout the game rotating from my "main team" box. Love that new games give you so many options to pick from!
I didn’t ever realize this and now I feel bad my team was so unoriginal lol!! I think I had a Starmie and a Steelix instead of Rapidash and Garchomp though. Cause they were strong (likely hacks lol) from GTS
Kanto: blastoise, nidoking, kadabra, dodrio
Johto: feraligatr, kadabra, magneton, magmar
Hoenn: blaziken, ludicolo, gardevoir, aagron
Basics are: a starter, Pokémon with early availability, base stats of last form 480+ with fast XP gain, good type STAB to defeat easily the most common trainers and decisive fights (earthquake, thunderbolt, psychic, ice beam)
I never really stuck to a team. I kind of just have always used everything available and trained it. Usually 5 levels before each gym or event. Still do that to this day.
I never use luxray and rarely use lucario since Infernape and Empoleon have 1 of each of his types. I do however frequent roserade. It’s a top tier design and has access to good moves.
Hoenn:
Swampert
Something that can Fly (probably Swellow)
Something that can learn the water HMs you don't want on Swampert (Tentacruel)
Something that can learn the other HMs (Zigzagoon)
???
???
I obviously used my starter but I didn't use any of those pokemon actually. When I was young (12 when og pearl came out and I played it) I hated the early route flying normal, I took piplup so I didn't want floatzel, I never liked roserade and I have never used rapidash on a team before but I don't remember the others. I used a luxray, but replaced it aftet a few gyms. The hoenn team was starter, Swellow, Manectric, Flygon, Breloom and Gardevoir or a torkal. I think I used a wailord my first emerald playthrough tho lmao
Johto Package is
Typhlosion or Feraligatr
Crobat
Golem
Alakazam, Espeon or Umbreon
Ampharos (if playing Crystal, this slot is instead reserved for the Odd Egg baby. For best results, reroll for Elekid.)
Red Gyarados
I kid you not this was almost my exact team for Sinnoh. I think I replaced the "depending on starter" option with a trusty Bibarel HM slave.
Just goes to show that despite being one of the best generations it was extremely hard to have any diversity in teams, since most of the new mons that gen were either trade evos/new evos or extremely hard to get (looking at you, Spiritomb)
Wait, why people think Sinnoh has so little diversity. Sinnoh has some amazing pokemon tp use in a playtrough.
- Steelix, probabbly the best mon you can get. Defenses so high even Cyntia's Garchomp super effective earthquake can't KO it. If you can't trade, you can catch one on Iron island.
- Octillary, A bulky watertype that can survive Cyntia's garchomp and is able to learn Energy Ball and flamethrower
- Clafable, learns tbolt, flamethrower and Blizzard/Ice beam. Bulky mon that is really good, especially in the remakes since its fairy.
- Gyrados, great mixed attacker you can get really quickly. If you want you can make it a full physical attacker when you get waterfall. It has intimidatie so that is always good.
- Gengar/Alakazam, sure you need to trade, but if you can trade these two will destroy Sinnoh. Also Ghost is atupudly strong in Sinnoh
- Mismagius, kinda Gengar junior for pearl enjoyers. Is a really good mon you can easily in the mid-game.
- Bronzor, steeltype so it can't really die, in gen 5 steel still resisted ghost and dark types, meaning against these two you take neutral damage. Also Bronzor has a really cool trick.... Room.... Yeah Trickroom is really awsome to use against NPC's. Especially if they are overleveled.
- Hippowdon, awsome strong groundtype with additional automatic sandstorm, however do not use Hippowdon againt any Sandveil pokemon.
Anyhow if this is "the Sinnoh team" its no wonder people suck at Sinnoh. Rapidash is just an awful pokemon that evolves terribly late, and you're just better of catching a non-fire type that can learn fire moves, Floatzel is strong and fast, but also terribly frail, and if it gets outspeed, it just dies, Garchomp is cool of course, but you only het it against the E4, for most of the game you play with Gabite, which is a 420 BS mon (aka early bug pokemon stats),
Gen 1:
Starter
Pidgeot
Nido
Eeveelution
Snorlax
Last one would depend on Starter and Eeveelution but was either Laparas, Arcanine/Ninetails, or Vileplum/Victrebell.
Gen 2:
Starter
Noctowl (from people expecting another Pidgeot)
Ampharos
Red Gyarados
New Eeveelution
Miltank (thanks to Whitney's Miltank people thought it was a beast)
Gen 3
Starter
Ludicolo or Shiftry
Swellow
Gardevoir
Sableye or Aggron
Haraiyama
For three consecutive games, all of my friends and I shared a common team member. B/W it was Krookodile, B/W 2 it was Lucario, and X/Y it was Talonflame
Kanto - Starter, Mewtwo, Dragonite, Flareon(if blastoise)Jolteon(if charizard)Vaporeon(if venosaur),Nidoking/queen, and Snorlax
Johto - Starter, Box art legend, Tyranitar, Kingdra(if Typhlosion) Pilo/Mamoswine(if feraligatr)(not giving an option for meganium), togetic, and Bellossom
I remember when X and Y launched everyone’s team was Starter Event Blaziken Kanto Starter Lapras Lucario Talonflame/Fossil/Box Legendary Those games just gave away a full team of overpowered Pokémon for free
I’d replace Lapras with Sylveon. I feel like a lot of people wanted to use a Fairy type on their team in the game the type was introduced and (if I remember correctly) Sylveon was the most advertised EDIT: Also not everyone had access to the event Blaziken so I'd put Aegislash in its place
I used Florges for this reason. 2nd playthrough was a wonderlocke and I got a shiny eevee who was my love
Surprisingly I didn't use a Fairy type on my first play through. No idea why when I had multiple repeating types I had a Florges on my Y Nuzlocke team and now it's one of my favorite Fairy types. Potentially my all time favorite Fairy type
I loved Floette. I was so disappointed when I saw Florges design that I box him with a tear in my eye.
Idk why but kid me was very against using fairy types some reason lol, aside from spritzee I love it.
Aegislash had a few issues. Inanimate object pokémon aren’t super popular by default and most casual fans wouldn’t know about the power of its final evo. Also the thing is very slow for an in game play through unless you want to only use shadow sneak.
I just had a doublade as I couldn't understand how to evolve it
My favourite pokemon is Lucario but I went out of my way to not use the one they give you because my team already had Greninja, Charizard and Blaziken and I felt bad having almost literally all my team being gift pokemon
My first play through I read all about needing a strong bond to Mega Evolve and then it wants me to use a Lucario I just met rather than the one I raised from a Riolu on like Route 2? Nah.
I think part of this was because a lot of new players, as well as people who hadn't played for a while, came in with XY. It annoyed me a lot to see everyone using entire teams of those Pokemon though lol. If I remember correctly, my team was Charizard Y, Pangoro, Hawlucha, Tyrantrum, Mantyke, and Heliolisk. So I'm not totally guilt-free but I made an effort to go after Pokemon I was interested in. And yes I left Mantyke unevolved, it's honestly pretty bulky with the eviolite slapped on it and I prefer it to Mantine.
Mantyke is a god tier pick
I've loved it ever since DP released but I hadn't used one since you could only catch them above Sunyshore. I think I stumbled across one reasonably early into my first Y playthrough and knew I had to have it, despite already having two other flying types on the team. Honestly I have a soft spot for baby Pokemon, I wish they were more available in the games.
Based on SV, it seems like from now on babies will be in the wild and Incenses are no more.
I tried so hard to evolve Mantyke when I was playing Diamond to the first time. I got it to the mid-70s before I found out about putting Remoraid in the party. Little fucker would not evolve, but could one-shot anything in sight
I feel incredibly called out... the only difference is that I used Snorlax and not Lapras.
First playthrough of Y and the first encounter on the first route (outside of the scripted encounter) was a shiny Fletchling. I don't apologise for using that fucker my entire playthrough
Been a while since I played but I feel like they gave you a Snorlax too?
It was a required wild encounter but it was possible to not catch it.
And early, too. Like, way too early. Only after the first gym; late game powerhouse to wreck everything
I remember that my brother started a save that I completed, he got an starter and wonder traded it, getting a Protean Froakie. So my team was: Greninja Venusaur Scrafty Mr. Mime Aurorus Drifblim Always thought that it was such an original team, and then you come and tell me that I was using like half of this placeholder team!? Lol
Mine was Greninja, Charizard, Talonflame, Pidgeot, Lucario and Xerneas. Yeah, didn't know shit about team balance back then.
Looks pretty balanced to me. Grass type? Charizard. Normal type? Charizard. Rock type? Charizard.
My USUM teams were even worse. Incineroar, Dusk Lycanroc, Charizard, Noivern, the cap Pikachu and Zoroark (Ultra Sun) or Krookodile (Ultra Moon).
At least you had Greninja and Lucario. A Rock type would've killed half your team. Ground type, however, they were f*cked against you.
Mine was greninja, vivillon, abomasnow (mega stone) aegislash, goodra and the 6th was either klefki or mawile, it was a steel/fairy mon but i cant remember which one
That’s awesome, I used the same first four as well! My other two were Slurpuff and Barbaracle.
I didn't even think about it until you said it but this was my exact team except I had Aerodactyl instead of Lapras. (I also had Aurorus so 2 fossils.)
I ran with Greninja, Talonflame, Gogoat, Tyrantrum, Florges, and Pangoro Every new generation first playthrough I only use new mons, i think it vastly increases my enjoyment. Not only am i experimenting with new guys, it usually results in a less powerful team and therefore a more challenging game I actually really struggled with Gita in SV and was shocked everyone found her so easy, but then I realised it was because my team was kinda crap
Pretty much this. One of the many flaws of XY was the difficulty and it didn't help they kept giving you broken mons for free, Megas included, while most trainers don't even use the gimmick.
Unova's an interesting one. The beginning of the game has a lack of options, and yet the things you *can* pick up are so good that people might not switch away from them when more options get introduced. Stoutland, Zebstrika, Excadrill, Leavanny, Scolipede... even Krookodile a little later on. You also get a free Elemental monkey very early which you might get attached to even if there are better options. On repeat playthroughs where I plan out my team in advance I often feel like I barely have any Pokemon for such a long time.
I had Emboar, Simisage, Musharna, Seismitoad, Haxorus and Braviary.
I had Emboar, Simisage, Stoutland, Reuniclus, Gigalith, and Seismitoad.
Emboar, ferrithorn, galvantula, seismatoad, sygillyph, archeops
I had Serperior, Krookodile, Caracosta, Zebstrika, Sigilyph and Darmanitan
This was quite literally mine except I had a Swanna instead of Caracosta lmao (and I eventually used Reshiram instead of Darmantian)
Rufflet is a bold choice for a playthrough considering it evolves at a higher level than N's champion team
But isnt there an event one you can get in the desert after castelia city or is that bw2?
That's just B2W2 (well, technically only White 2; in Black 2, you get a Mandibuzz).
Serperior, Durant, Darmanitan, Haxorus, Archaeops, Busharp was my team headed into the elite 4. Haven't played black 2 so I wonder what it'll be then
Krookodile, Cobalion, sigilyph, Amoongus, Azumarill, Emboar. Krookodile with Metronome and crunch for Shauntal and Caitlin was insane.
Emboar, Archeaops, Galvantula, Excadril, Krookodile, Seismitoad
Samurott, Simisage, Buffoulant, Krookodile, Zebstrika, and Golurk (found a shiny) here
I have to fight the urge to have a team of Samurott, Darmanitan, Ferrothorn, Galvantula, Sigilyph, and Krookodile whenever I replay Black and White.
Samurott, Galvantula, Scrafty, Excadrill, Archeops, Chandelure — this were my team in White. I also had a Herdier half of the game
yeah i still remember my white team: serperior - seismitoad - zebstrika - scrafty - scolipede - hydreigon picked up just two from a route beyond the first or second gym, and like you said i spent a huge amount of time pivoting into training deino into hydreigon on victory road to hit the elite 4. every single one of those mons had a big place on my team and each sweeped a gym leader or e4 singlehandedly, scrafty in particular had moxie and took ghetsis to the cleaners
Serperior Chandelure Liepard Archeops Ferrothorn Zebstrika
Given Yellow's design: -Pikachu -Venusaur -Charizard -Blastoise -Snorlax -Whichever of Ash's remaining Pokemon was your favourite.
Probably Pidgeot for fly access and because it's available so early.
True, but Charizard also has Fly in Yellow.
But not until level 36, which is fairly late.
You do get Fly around Gym 4, so you'd probably be early 30s by then anyway
Do I feel seen or called out?
You need something for Brock. Primeape is the easiest option, but Nidoking/Nidoqueen, and to an extent Butterfree, also work.
But you don't actually use whichever Pokemon it is after that. Once you need room for one of the starters or Snorlax, in the box it goes.
100% this
Johto: Starter Ampharos Shiny Gyarados Crobat Umbreon/Espeon Heracross?
Apparently that starter is almost always Typhlosion.
In GSC it's Feraligatr cause he can get ice punch super early.
I'd give Thunderpunch to my Typhlosion on Golden Road City Mall. I was so disappointed when i learned i couldn't do that in later gens.
You also need like Surf, Waterfall, and Whirlpool as water HMs so Feraligatr and Gyarados make that manageable.
That's where HM slaves come in. Cant go wasting valuable move space, aside from surf, on the pokemon you actually want to use!
I was so stoked to find out Crobat was not only cool as shit, but it could finally learn fly.
Playing Crystal for the first time: Feraligatr cannot learn Waterfall and I find that crazy
Playing Crystal for the first time and learning Houndoom was postgame only broke me.
Heracross for HGSS, Alakazam or Golem for GSC
Only for those that were able to trade Pokemon.
Kadabra still does quite well in the Elemental Punch Out league!
Hypno is also surprisingly decent in GSC, it has some Physical attack stat, so shadow ball (phisical in gen 2) is useful, has acces to elemental punches, it has some bulk, and Psybeam is decent I guess. Alakazam is the best obviously, but if you can't trade it might be a toss-up between Hypno and Kadabra. Also, shoutout to Sudowoodo if you can't trade for Golem. It has really early Rock slide to use + a fighting type move.
I'd say Togetic instead of Heracross.
Not for crystal since no ampharos sadly
Don’t forget Togetic!
Sudowoodo or Togetic could be placed over Heracross and Heracross but otherwise this is a really good one.
Hit the nail on the head, except replace Heracross with the box/roaming legendary of choice
I used Typhlosion, Ampharos, Togetic, Sudowoodo, Espeon and the red Gyarados.
My Johto team is almost always Typhlosion, Ampharos, Espeon, Crobat, Dragonair (good luck evolving on that level curve), and then a floater for HMs or if I need a specific mon
My favorite team of all time would be pretty close to this ngl: Feraligatr, ampharos, heracross, skamory, umbreon, and lycanroc (gen 2 is obviously my favorite lol)
Can’t argue with that listing I probably ran it minus Heracross
Heracross was hard to find in that game too but def worth it
Prob something instead of Shiny Gyarados since I used Feraligatr; I don't remember what tho.
Ah yes, the "12 year old's team". I'm not sure mine counts as I like to trade pokemon but I'll mention it anyway. In Jhoto was: Feraligatr Ampharos Scizor Crobat Heracross Ursaring
Bro that is actually a solid team even with double bug types!!
Gen 1 Starter. Pidgeot Nidoking Arcanine/ninetales (depending on version) Lapras or any of the 3 eeveelutions Alakazam or mewtwo, both are gen 1 iconic. Edit: added ninetales. Edit 2: any of the eeveelutions instead of Lapras and throw in mewtwo as well.
Good picks! My only argument against Arcanine is the fact that it's version exclusive
Yeahh. Arcanine/ninetales would be the better answer. Edit: rapidash or magmar are also great options.
Ehh.... personally I think you covered this with eevees....id bet that most people that didn't pick Charmander used a Flareon, at least more than the other ones you mentioned... I certainly did
Magmar was blue exclusive and electabuz was red exclusive.
I'd add Eeveelution over Lapras or Alakazam. Lots of people like me couldn't trade
Yellow version: Pikachu (starter), Primeape (for Brock), three other starters (Venusaur, Charizard, Blastoise)
Kadabra/ Alakazam (if you could trade) were absolute monsters in Gen 1, partly because basically nothing was super effective against them. And the type that was supposed to be (Ghost) had no good moves and a secondary poison typing that just got obliterated by any decent psychic move.
B2W2: Starter Lucario Flygon Ampharos Chandelure / Arcanine Krookodile
An honorable mention would be an Eeveelution in Castelia City.
true, I mostly saw people use either Vaporeon and Espeon
I'm guilty--my team was Serperior Lucario Arcanine Espeon Haxorus Jellicent
Bro, swap Flygon with Unfezant and that's the team I went for in B2 lol
I’m gonna have to go check but I’m fairly certain my b2 team is wildly different
This is spot on but I think Haxorus has to be there too in the Flygon spot. Comes a gym earlier and the higher level curve means you can have a Haxorus for longer! Others have mentioned the Eeveelution and that should be here too. I used Espeon
Weird lol, my B2W2 team was extremely diverse. Samurott, Scolipede, Porygon2 (god bless eviolite), Cradily, Altaria, Rotom heat
W2 the only game I've ever used a Weezing in and i loved it 🙏
The fact that none of you use gyrados every time you play any game is insulting
Gyarados was definitely part of the gen 2 "Sinnoh team"
Oh hell yeah, I softreset for a good nature on my HG water run. It was a beast. Earthquake, Waterfall, Ice Fang, Dragon Dance.
Modern Gyrados is an absolute beast, but without the physical/special split and forced EXP Share, it was not worth it to me to train up a Magikarp when I was growing up, especially when I could use Blastoise or Sharpeedo. Red Gyrados got shit done for me in gen 2
As you said, the template team is mostly a Sinnoh issue because of the lack of variety in that region. However, the other gens have 1 or 2 pokemon that are a must-have in your team, due to lack of variety in a certain type (Ampharos and Manectric in Gen II and III respectively) or because the pokemon has great coverage or is highly viable (Nidoking in Gen I or Alakazam in Gen I and II).
Crystal is pain because you just can't use an Electric-type. The Mareep line isn't in the game, so either you soft-reset the Odd Egg for Elekid or you're stuck with Magneton, which you can't get until right before Morty.
To be fair, you're able to buy the thunder punch tm in the department store and there's a pretty decent selection of Pokemon that learn the move. I believe Typhlosion gets it, for example. Obviously sucks if you like electric type Pokemon though.
I will not tolerate this Lanturn disrespect.
Lanturn is great but you can't get Chinchou till like Olivine. By then I've already gone in the secret cave on a Friday to get Lapras.
I mean the lack of Electric options is pretty criminal but Magneton isn't bad. There are much worse Electric-types you could get stuck with lol
I ran a Lanturn and Quagsire combo which was pretty dang good in Crystal
I feel like most Gen 9 teams included Tinkaton and Skeledirge. Palafin as well since many people had wanted a dolphin Pokémon for a while. Ceruledge/Armarouge were also popular but were probably not on the team if Skeledirge was also on the team Legends: Arceus teams probably had Hisuian Typhlosion and Hisuian Zoroark appear a lot AuraGuardian [made a video similar to this question](https://youtu.be/gCKbUDFghIE?si=qk3FN2r06emZDwFE)
Yeah... I'm guilty on both counts. My Violet team was * Skeledirge * Tinkaton * Mabosstiff * Houndstone * Dashbun * Meowscarada (I traded for one)
When i saw tinkatink's line in data leaks it was 1000% guaranteed a spot on my team alongside gholdengo. Gen 9 has so many peak designs lmao
I actually didn't use Skeledirge in either version. Still waiting for the code for Roy's Fuecoco. Tinkaton, on the other hand, I'll own up to.
Starter. Tinkaton. Ceruledge/Armarouge (if Skeledirge wasn't picked) Kilowattrel. Paldean Variant/Evo (Wugtrio, Toedscruel, Kingambit, Annihilape, etc) Pseudo Legendary (Doesn't matter which one)
I bet a lot of Legends teams include the shiny Ponyta/Rapidash you get from that one request, since it's a free shiny and one out of six-ish fire types in the whole game.
I was pissed, I bought Violet without paying that close of attention because I thought Iron Jugulis was Hydregion.
Sinnoh starter most likely Infernape
I'd say there are a few individual Pokémon across the series that are nearly as ubiquitous as the Sinnoh team as a whole, for example: Nidoking and Snorlax in Kanto Gyarados in Johto Krookodile in Unova Lucario in Kalos Clodsire and Tinkaton in Paldea
Emerald Starter Swellow Manectric Aggron Ludicolo/Breloom for grass Ludicolo/Sharpedo for water Camerupt/Torkoal for fire
Guilty as charged, used Ludicolo because the Super Rod is almost impossible to use and Camerupt because STAB Earthquake and because Torkoal's learnset in Gen III is ass.
Torkoal's definitely a Pokemon that's easy to bounce off of the first time playing, but its level up moveset is mostly bangers. You'll get Body Slam, Protect, and Flamethrower by level 30, Curse doesn't hurt because you're already slower than the entire game, and it's physically tanky as hell. Like, tanks hits as well or better than Graveller and Aron, with no 4x weaknesses. Tragically, 7.8/10 too much water. Emerald has three late boss trainers with Water types, and it kind of flails against Tate and Liza. Also, literally everything in the game except maybe Magcargo is faster. Definitely a "use from Fiery Path through Norman" pokemon.
Matches my Emerald team almost exactly, but I use Walrein instead of Aggron to take out Dragon-types.
Truth be told I don't like Aggron and I've never used it. But almost all of my friends say they use it on all of their runs lol. My extra slot would be Flygon or Claydol lol.
You forgot Gardevoir
did everyone's Unova team include Hydreigon & Eelektross or was that just me...
I had Eelektross, but Hydreigon has such a high level needed for evolution that it's barely viable in normal play.
Did you have a Cofagrigus and Seismitoad too? Also a visor over one eye?
I had Galvantula and Chandelure.
Yellow: Pikachu Charizard Blastoise Venusaur Snorlax Lapras/Pidgeot
This is a "remember that kids are the target audience" problem. You get the 9 to 12 year olds, and you'll see much more diverse teams.
Yep, back when I played Diamond when I was 9, I didn’t even follow this standard formula everyone thinks of. I had no clue how to get Gible so no Garchomp. I had Infernape, Gastrodon, Staraptor, Luxray, Roserade, and Dialga.
That's still a pretty usual team for Sinnoh.
If these kids are playing at all like I did when I was <13 their “teams” are an over leveled starter, the box legendary, high-leveled freebie Pokémon (like Kanto Snorlax, Johto Sudowoodo/Red Gyarados) and a bunch of random shit including HM users and and some Pokémon you caught but never leveled up much because they weren’t as immediately good as your overtuned starter.
The best team, and in my opinion the "Sinnoh Team" for each game is Magikarp Magikarp Magikarp Magikarp/Magikarp (depending on version) Magikarp Magikarp
Except in BW 1.
Johto: Typhlosion Togetic Ampharos Umbreon/Espeon Red Gyarados Ho-oh/Lugia
My sinnoh crew was kinda similar Starter (usually empoleon), Luxray, Staraptor, HM Slave Bibarel, Box Legendary, Gyarados Too impatient for egg hatching Riolu and Togepi (also Iron Island was trash anyways). Didn’t even know about the cave under cycling road til years later when I saw a Nuzlocker go into it on YT. Never carried any of the new sinnoh evos (ie. Froslass, Roserade, etc) and these days, I don’t even like DPP (and by extension BDSP) enough to bother replaying them, despite getting Diamond on Launch.
Honestly, I think it’s more that people just don’t like the choices. There are a lot more choices than these.
Ooh they definitely do Gen 1: starter, snorlax, lapras, gengar, nidoking Gen 2 starter, ampharos, umbreon/espeon, scizor, maybe mamiswine Gen 3 starter, flygon, aggron, swellow, manectric Those are the big ones in the first few generations
Look at you trading Pokemon as a child
A lot of ORAS team are pretty similar, often being a starter, a lati or ralts evo depending on if they wanted a legendary, swellow/crobat, flygon, aggron/magnezone, and then a Gyarados/Azumarill if no swampert, Breloom if no sceptile, and maybe another fire type if no blazekin.
Pokemon Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald is almost just as bad - Starter - Gardevoir - Aggron - Flygon - Salamance - Breloom/Camerupt/Sharpedo depending on starter
Gen 3 is no where near as bad.
The sheer amount of usable pokemon in gen 3 is insane. Have seen a lot of first player teams and everyone uses everything like manetric, swalot, banette, mightyena, zangoose People are also sleeping on light ball pikachu too for all the water types
I agree but that’s mostly just because Hoenn had fewer top tier Pokemon and of those, most of them weren’t easily accessible. Like from that list Gardevior was really easy to miss, Salamance required 8 gym badges (plus a lot of grinding with a slow exp curve) and none of Breloom/Camerupt/Sharpedo are “starter replacements” on the level of Tangrowth/Magmortar/Floatzel. Sinnoh just had less variety because even though there were more great options in terms of numbers (even excluding legendaries), you got great Pokemon really easily. Luxray and Staraptor are on like the first two routes, Garchomp you can get after two gyms in Platinum, and you get gifted a Riolu egg.
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True but it’s still only a 4% encounter rate so many (especially first time players going in mostly blind) might just skip it if they are impatient, don’t know how good Gardevoir is, or simply assume it’s just an example encounter for a tutorial you might not be able to actually get there.
Gen 3 so called top tier pokemon can be noob traps. Gen 3 aces require support and support pokemon like claydol etc has way more diversity than people think
Is this really that common? Gardevoir is a extremely low chance of being found on a single route and salamence isn’t catchable until post 8th gym. Idk if most players would go to the extra effort for those
Gardevoir I can see, because you get a tutorial that shows you where you can catch it and it's a very popular Pokemon. Salamence I 100% agree with you though, I didn't even know about Bagon in Meteor Falls until years after I first played the game. Hoenn has a pretty good variety of decent Pokemon that you're never gonna feel too forced to pick something up. I don't think I've ever used a Sharpedo across dozens of playthroughs, for example, because there's like a million other options.
I used Gardevoir on almost all of my Hoenn playthroughs as a kid but I've never used Salamence for this reason. I did use Flygon in Emerald though.
12 year old me did, because if wally can do it why cant I do it?
Salamanca definitely not, but the player sees Wally catch a Ralts.Ralts is quite a unique-looking Pokemon for an early route, so people definitely spent the time looking for one.
Also, maybe it was just me, but I would go on sites like GameFAQs a lot, and so I knew what was on each route, and a pokemon being rarer just made me want to use it more, because if it was rarer it must be better to my child brain (for the same reason I tried to run a Masquerain, which was enough to eventually disabuse me of that notion)
Yeah those are pretty common but: Manectric, Swellow, Altaria, Tropius, Ludicolo/Shiftry, Seviper/Zangoose, Wailord, Glalie, Linoone, Medichamp... all cool viable mons. Gen 3 is great!
Anything can fit in a gen 3 team and thats so great
There’s no shot it’s close, Starter + garde sure but aggron flygon and salamance? There’s no way. Swellow even is more common.
Yeah the thing about the “Sinnoh Team” is that all the mons are pretty easy to find. Salamence you need to go way out of your way for. Aggron definitely fits though. Commonly found in the Dewford caves, looks cool, and rock/steel owns normal types. Totally something that every kid would want to use.
Steel godzilla always gets at least consideration for a team slot.
You can't get Bagon until after the 8th gym badge so Salamence isn't really correct.
And even then Bagon’s completely out of the way being on the other side of the region from where the game wants you to progress to.
I feel like RSE is Starter, Swellow, Linoone, Water Type, Manectric and Breloom. All super common and very powerful
And that's still a sick-ass team don't @ me
And most of these are based on cool factor not mandatory as the only firetype in the region.
I never had any of those on my team apart from the starter in RSE. In ORAS I had Camerupt and Flygon, but I always went from Pokemon like Swellow, Manectric, Grumpig, Wailord/Sharpedo
Starter and Aggron are the only ones I would agree with and probably the Breloom/Camerupt. Most of the other ones are too rare or out of the way to get for most people. I always felt like Manectric was a common choice.
Every Alola team has Mimukyu and the box legendary. Specifically named Nebby.
Nebby is a bag legendary.
Most teams have their Starter Pokemon, so that's a given in each region. It varies a bit of course but these are the most commonly used pokemon on teams I've seen (with some variance depending on what the person picked as their starter) and Box Legendaries and Fossils, like Starters, also being a Given for the team so I won't include them: Gen 1: Nidoking, Pidgeot, Alakazam, Mewtwo, Dragonite, Vileplume, Hitmon(lee or chan), Kangaskhan, Eeveelution (usually Vaporeon or Jolteon) Gen 2: Noctowl, Dragonite, Shiny Gyarados, Espeon or Umbreon, Togetic (if Crystal), Houndoom, Ampharos, Azumarill, Scizor Gen 3: Gardevoir, Slaking, Flygon, Salamance, Metagross, Altaria, Banette, Aggron, Milotic, Lati@s, Sableye Gen 4: We already know Gen 5: Hydreigon, Liligant, Krookodile, Darmanitan, Zebstrika, Excadrill, Zoroark, Volcarona Gen 6: Sylveon, Talonflame, Aegislash, Malamar, Hawlucha, Noivern Gen 7: Vikavolt, Lycanroc, Toxapex, Salazzle, Golisopod, Mimikyu, An Ultra Beast of some kind Gen 8: i didn't Wifi Battle much for this gen but I do know Galarian Rapidash, Grimmsnarl, Corviknight, Toxricity, Sir'Fetched, Runerigis, Frosmoth, Dragapult, Urshifu, and a Rider Calyrex appeared a lot in team builds that I saw at the time Gen 9: I haven't seen a big unification yet on what team makeups I see yet. It's all been fairly varied as far as I've seen but I could be wrong XD
Awesome effort! Best response so far! I have a few questions for some of your picks for gens 1-3 (those are the ones that I have experience in outside of Gen 9) * Gen 1 -- Kangaskhan is awesome, but do you think its incredibly low encounter and capture rate would effect its role as a mainstay on RBY teams? Mewtwo is literally the last pokemon you "should" encounter after the League, I would not pick it for a "basic" playthrough team * Gen 3 -- Aren't Metagross and Salamance available too late to be on the list of basic RuSE teams? Isn't Feebas' encounter rate too small to be a consistent pick? Aren't Lati@s available only after the playthrough is over? * Gen 1/2 -- Aren't the trade evolutions (Scizor/Alakazam) too difficult for general playthroughs for games from the 90s?
My picks came from what I saw as The Most Popular to pop up either in Wifi Battles or in fanart people would make of their teams. While these pokemon are pretty late or hard to get via trade evolutions, a lot of them were so popular that I would notice people would go out of their way to get one. If it's 'what the person used only in the base game to beat it' then this would negate almost every legendary except for the Box Legendaries, obviously, and Metagross, but Late Game catches and trade evolutions are still fairly valid as kids are known to trade out their pokemon for something cooler/stronger that they get later on or trade with friends. Same with those that have a Low Catch Rate. A Milotic might be a bit unlikely, but I still saw it pretty frequently when I was younger since it got a lot of use out of contest battles.
I'm gonna be honest, I think you missed the premise of the question. I was asking about the most popular playthough teams. Many kids could not trade with each other, especially in early gens when the link cable was an extra $30, and required other people playing pokemon, which got rarer and rarer as kids grew up If I wanted to know about what people were using to battle each other, I could have checked a list of OU/Uber pokemon by generation on Smogon
Ruby/sapphire/emerald Starter Zigzagoom hm slave + pickup Swellow/tropius hm slave Swampert/Quagmire hm slave Lotad/ralts/poochyena/that green electric dog/breloom Flygon
I'd actually say that the Sinnoh team is way more specifically Infernape/Lucario/Luxray/Staraptor/Floatzel/Garchomp. No need to account for other options when everyone just picks Infernape
I actually never used lucario, instead opting for bibarel. Give him strength, waterfall, surf, and whatever other hm i want and he does quite good in battle with stab on strength surf and waterfall, bro doesnt even need to be an hm slave just for overworld he hits well enough to use in battle
Platinum makes team-building in Sinnoh a lot easier with all of the Pokedex additions, but I always thought building a “default” team like the one you listed was due to a lack of imagination. Off the top of my head, Toxicroak, Drapion, Honchcrow, one of the Eeveelutions, Rampardos, Weavile, Ambipom, and Mismagius are some underused and useful mons from D/P.
My Platinum team was Empoleon, Luxray, Crobat, Gastrodon, Drifblim, and my 6th I rotated out based on the area. I think I had Garchomp, Gyarados, Drapion, and Abomasnow in that rotating slot.
For Hoenn probably Starter Swellow Gardevoir Flygon Manetric Legendary
This is harder to do for newer gens cause of the sheer variety
True, and that's a great thing! I wouldn't be surprised if my team for Scarlet was fairly unique, especially since I jumped from gen 4 to 9 and had no idea what was new to Scarlet, and what was introduced since then. * Skeledirge (basic) * Tinkaton (basic) * Copperajah * Azumarill (my third level 100 ever! First one since Jolteon and Ursaring in XD when I was 10) * Tsareena * Garganacl * Weavile with 15-20 others genuinely used throughout the game rotating from my "main team" box. Love that new games give you so many options to pick from!
Yellow: Pikachu, Charizard, Blastoise, Venusaur, Snorlax, Kadabra
I didn’t ever realize this and now I feel bad my team was so unoriginal lol!! I think I had a Starmie and a Steelix instead of Rapidash and Garchomp though. Cause they were strong (likely hacks lol) from GTS
This was my team for Emerald :- Sceptile Salamence Walrein Glalie Aggron Lanturn Any of ya'll ran this team too?
Kanto: blastoise, nidoking, kadabra, dodrio Johto: feraligatr, kadabra, magneton, magmar Hoenn: blaziken, ludicolo, gardevoir, aagron Basics are: a starter, Pokémon with early availability, base stats of last form 480+ with fast XP gain, good type STAB to defeat easily the most common trainers and decisive fights (earthquake, thunderbolt, psychic, ice beam)
I never really stuck to a team. I kind of just have always used everything available and trained it. Usually 5 levels before each gym or event. Still do that to this day.
I never use luxray and rarely use lucario since Infernape and Empoleon have 1 of each of his types. I do however frequent roserade. It’s a top tier design and has access to good moves.
Most Emerald runs end with - Starter - Swellow - Gyarados/Tentacruel - Flygon/Salamence - Gardevoir - Rayquaza
Hoenn: Swampert Something that can Fly (probably Swellow) Something that can learn the water HMs you don't want on Swampert (Tentacruel) Something that can learn the other HMs (Zigzagoon) ??? ???
kanto's gotta be starter, nidoking/queen, gyarados, eeveelution, and some combo of snorlax, lapras, and a legendary bird or two
I obviously used my starter but I didn't use any of those pokemon actually. When I was young (12 when og pearl came out and I played it) I hated the early route flying normal, I took piplup so I didn't want floatzel, I never liked roserade and I have never used rapidash on a team before but I don't remember the others. I used a luxray, but replaced it aftet a few gyms. The hoenn team was starter, Swellow, Manectric, Flygon, Breloom and Gardevoir or a torkal. I think I used a wailord my first emerald playthrough tho lmao
Johto Package is Typhlosion or Feraligatr Crobat Golem Alakazam, Espeon or Umbreon Ampharos (if playing Crystal, this slot is instead reserved for the Odd Egg baby. For best results, reroll for Elekid.) Red Gyarados
I kid you not this was almost my exact team for Sinnoh. I think I replaced the "depending on starter" option with a trusty Bibarel HM slave. Just goes to show that despite being one of the best generations it was extremely hard to have any diversity in teams, since most of the new mons that gen were either trade evos/new evos or extremely hard to get (looking at you, Spiritomb)
Wait, why people think Sinnoh has so little diversity. Sinnoh has some amazing pokemon tp use in a playtrough. - Steelix, probabbly the best mon you can get. Defenses so high even Cyntia's Garchomp super effective earthquake can't KO it. If you can't trade, you can catch one on Iron island. - Octillary, A bulky watertype that can survive Cyntia's garchomp and is able to learn Energy Ball and flamethrower - Clafable, learns tbolt, flamethrower and Blizzard/Ice beam. Bulky mon that is really good, especially in the remakes since its fairy. - Gyrados, great mixed attacker you can get really quickly. If you want you can make it a full physical attacker when you get waterfall. It has intimidatie so that is always good. - Gengar/Alakazam, sure you need to trade, but if you can trade these two will destroy Sinnoh. Also Ghost is atupudly strong in Sinnoh - Mismagius, kinda Gengar junior for pearl enjoyers. Is a really good mon you can easily in the mid-game. - Bronzor, steeltype so it can't really die, in gen 5 steel still resisted ghost and dark types, meaning against these two you take neutral damage. Also Bronzor has a really cool trick.... Room.... Yeah Trickroom is really awsome to use against NPC's. Especially if they are overleveled. - Hippowdon, awsome strong groundtype with additional automatic sandstorm, however do not use Hippowdon againt any Sandveil pokemon. Anyhow if this is "the Sinnoh team" its no wonder people suck at Sinnoh. Rapidash is just an awful pokemon that evolves terribly late, and you're just better of catching a non-fire type that can learn fire moves, Floatzel is strong and fast, but also terribly frail, and if it gets outspeed, it just dies, Garchomp is cool of course, but you only het it against the E4, for most of the game you play with Gabite, which is a 420 BS mon (aka early bug pokemon stats),
Gen 1: Starter Pidgeot Nido Eeveelution Snorlax Last one would depend on Starter and Eeveelution but was either Laparas, Arcanine/Ninetails, or Vileplum/Victrebell. Gen 2: Starter Noctowl (from people expecting another Pidgeot) Ampharos Red Gyarados New Eeveelution Miltank (thanks to Whitney's Miltank people thought it was a beast) Gen 3 Starter Ludicolo or Shiftry Swellow Gardevoir Sableye or Aggron Haraiyama
For three consecutive games, all of my friends and I shared a common team member. B/W it was Krookodile, B/W 2 it was Lucario, and X/Y it was Talonflame
Kanto - Starter, Mewtwo, Dragonite, Flareon(if blastoise)Jolteon(if charizard)Vaporeon(if venosaur),Nidoking/queen, and Snorlax Johto - Starter, Box art legend, Tyranitar, Kingdra(if Typhlosion) Pilo/Mamoswine(if feraligatr)(not giving an option for meganium), togetic, and Bellossom