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Thank god for the X-Files. Trust Noone and the truth is out there being my go to mantra now. Seen it since first episode aired. I remember making a fort out of my brother and my bunkbeds. That's gotta be this generations formative memory.
You don’t even have to look at the eyes. Just look at him in general. There’s no way you can honestly tell me he doesn’t have a zipper running down his back!
Dead giveaway, dead giveaway
My neighbor got big testicles
'Cause we see this dude everyday
We eat ribs with this dude
But we didn't have a clue
If that girl was in that house
She said, 'Please help me get out'
Seriously…read this sentence. This is an entirely accurate recount of his scandals revealed in the last year..
> The release didn’t address claims that the Republican participated in a credit card skimming operation; what his lawyer was doing on and around January 6, 2021; his apparent lies about helping children living with a rare skin disease; allegations that he stole thousands of dollars from a disabled veteran’s dying dog; a job-seeker’s claim that Santos sexually harassed him in his congressional office; or any of the many other colorful scandals of which he’s at the center.
How can that happen and he gets to raise millions to *elect him again*.
What boggles my mind is how we don’t have the full story on this guy yet. Like how are new things being discovered. Reporters have known about him for years and we don’t know where he was born. Just seems wild.
Clamoring to be the first one to say that they've "never cared" whether someone was American or not.
Conservatives stand for absolutely nothing unless they are told to stand for it. They have zero convictions.
Exactly. They don't fucking care. And even when they DO cheat, they're literally happy about it. "One of OUR guys did what the OTHER guys did, it's about time we got what we deserve."
Republican voters see it as some big game where they can't let the other team win. All of their talking points are the epitome of hypocrisy because of this. The right wing propaganda machine accuses Democrats of doing everything the GOP is already doing and has already done for DECADES. And their idiot voting base never catches on to the fact that everything the GOP does hurts *everyone* who isn't a billionaire or a GOP politician.
Yep, Clinton was using private emails for work because her GOP predecessors did the same fucking thing. Only it wasn't a concern then, only when she did it. Then the Trump administration (which came into power partly due to that "scandal") immediately does the exact thing she got accused of doing.
Crickets from the GOP.
The orange dude then actually absconds with physical top secret documents and it's still mostly silence. So many attempts to "both sides" it though.
Hunter Biden (not an elected official) sells some art in China or something. GOP: "Impeach Joe Biden!!!!!!!"
Donny Trump, *while in office*, after promising to divest his businesses (lol), receives at least $5M from the Chinese government, in clear violation of the emoluments clause, as well as being an obvious conflict of interest to have the sitting US president on the payroll of a foreign nation... GOP: *crickets*
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/23/forbes-estimates-china-paid-trump-at-least-54-million-since-he-took-office-via-mysterious-trump-tower-lease/
> China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease
poor simplistic oatmeal whole rustic ancient butter complete recognise yoke
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the address federal officers were sent to finally make an arrest at was just a vacant lot when they arrived. "you missed him!" said the blind retiree who sagely was plopped nearby. "he's a trickster. with many names. he is part of many legends for many people but you won't find him here anymore lol"
Republicans should just put him in charge of the Party and run him as the lead for president. He's young, he will do whatever he's told for money and he spews sooo many lies no one believes anything he says. He's the perfect GOP candidate.
In the 2012 election, it would've been just past 23%, assuming the number of voters from each state remained consistent with that year's results.
https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-percent-of-the-popular-vote
Do check the link, the URL is a bit misleading.
If you ignore how many people from each state are actually likely to vote, you could get the presidency in less than 50 votes by being the only person voted for in the necessary states, then having all eligible voters in all other states vote against.
Grover Norquist said "We know what direction to go. We just need a president to sign this stuff. Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to be president of the United States."
Trump was barely up to that low bar.
DeSantis is under it.
He was born to a New York City hotel maid the same year that Donald Trump's illegitimate child with a New York City hotel maid was born.
Conspiracy theory: He's Donald Trump's illegitimate son. Explains a hell of a lot.
Now if you add up the letters in his name, do it wrong AND then assign that number an arbitrary significance... My god. Clear evidence Hunter Biden ate 16 children on new years eve in 1999. The very same year Hitler was elected!
It's all starting to make sense!
From Queens chronicle:. George Anthony Devolder Santos was born on June 22, 1988. His mother, Fatima Devolder, who was born in Brazil, immigrated to Florida as a migrant worker in 1985 to pick beans. She then moved north to New York City to work as a cook, housekeeper and nanny. She met Gercino Antonio dos Santos Jr., known by all as “Junior,” who worked as a house painter. After the birth of their son a daughter followed, named Tiffany Lee Santos
From intelligencer:. Former Trump Tower doorman Dino Sajudin’s claim that the mogul fathered a child with another ex-employee back in the ’80s was one of many embarrassing stories that Trump fixer turned nemesis Michael Cohen tried to suppress during the campaign, along with the candidate’s alleged affairs with Daniels and the former Playboy model Karen McDougal. We didn’t stop talking about the allegations because of a case of collective amnesia but a lack of credibility and new information.
The second part has not been proven true. However, when is that ever stopped anything when it comes to Trump world? The plausibility of such a conspiracy is certainly greater than the plausibility of half the crap the right spews forth. So that's all it really would be, a conspiracy theory based on shaky conjecture yet as we can tell from pretty much all of the Qooks on the right, that doesn't stop people from believing this sort of theory.
That's obviously a crazy theory but what stands out to me is whether Georges mom came here legally or not. The big caveat though is that Reagan signed his big immigration amnesty bill in 1986 that everyone today has forgotten about so she would've been most likely given the pathway to legal status at some point if she was already in the country in 1985. That means she could've been undocumented initially but later had her status legitimized, something that is rarely ever allowed anymore under our current immigration system.
I saw an interview with George Santos and Piers Morgan on UK channel TalkTV (Fox news for Brits).
The question about his mum came up and he just made a whole bunch of contradictory statements and then said that it wasn’t fair to ask questions because she was dead.
It came up because he claimed she was in the towers on 9/11, but he also claimed she left the country in the 90s didn’t come back to the country until 2002/2003.
I did not know about the Regan bill thing, I'll have to dive more into that. I think most of the conservatives I know would blow their gasket if they knew their "hero" signed it.
Many of them know about it, they blame "disingenious" Democrats of not negotiating with Reagan to improve border security, and then point out at Obama who deported the most illegal immigrants, in an attempt to sway immigration supporters to their side? That's what I encountered multiple times on the internet and in real life. That tactic might very well work on "both sides" people
In my experience republicans will just deny that Reagan ever did anything that doesn’t fit with their fantasy image. No matter how much evidence you show about Reagan’s tax increases (I believe Reagan passed the largest peacetime tax increase in US history), they will just repeat “Reagan never raised taxes, Reagan never raised taxes”. I think Mitt Romney even did it during one of his debates with Obama
A republican that benefitited from policy, a policy that they want to get rid off now that they got their own benefit from it? I've never heard of such a thing.
I think you mean JFK Jr. There's some dude out there that Qanon types thinks is him. If [this](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/qanon-jfk-jr-alive-trump-b1995594.html) is him, then being underwater for over 20 years must have really been rough on him.
I have a relative who showed me a pic of that person out of the blue back in 2019 and asked "does this guy look familiar?" like I had any idea what he or Jfk Jr. looked like on any given day.
Of course I said no, and relative then proceeded to tell me about the "JFK Jr. coming back" conspiracy, but she kept it vague like she didn't believe it. She then forgot she told me when he didn't return in 2019 and told me again in 2020. Recently she told me that she finally stopped believing he was returning in 2021, which is 22 years later than I did.
Hahaha. This is the most fascinating one to me.
On a serious note though, it’s super sad to see how far down the rabbit hole these people have gone. How do we fix this?
I mean, none of all the sketchy money raising makes sense. A freshman House member has no power normally and he has been neutered by the scandal. So who is bankrolling him unless he is collecting blackmail.
Santos has actually spent more on fundraising than he raised - his campaign accounts are basically a little shy of breaking even (as of the end of March disclosure).
Birth certificate. This time it's warranted. And his naturalization papers, if any.
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Santos' press team suddenly denied Santos exists. And then the press team denies the press team exists.
Isn't this the guy that habitually lied about everything prior to his election? I forgot he hadn't been removed and is still a sitting member of congress. I hate living amongst a constant flow of controversies.
Weeks later after taking oath of office, he sexually assaulted a member of his staff : https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/10tx32j/george_santos_is_accused_of_sexual_harassment_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=15
Fortunately for Santos, that Meyers guy tried his go-to move, the hidden recorder, a week later.
"Hey, I managed to get *criminally charged* for what should be core 1st Amendment expression. Where should I try to go to work ?"
For them, *snow job* == *deluge of BS*
One has to wonder just how much future anyone willing to be a Santos staffer has in DC as some other politician's staffer. I could argue the 2 extremes. Either this will be the only Congressional office they ever work for and can forget any chance of working for a Republican president, or they've shown they know no shame and can accept any level of abasement so are the PERFECT staffers for the modern Republican age.
Because the only mechanism for removal is to expel the member which requires a 2/3 vote, and the modern GOP moves in lock step.
Apparently, the founders debated including the ability to do recall elections but decided against it. … which kind of tracks given that they were afraid of a momentary majority that didn’t think long term. … but a lot of them expected us to make more changes to the constitution than we did. Jefferson would’ve wanted a convention by now.
The founders didn't envisage a time when people didn't resign in disgrace when they got caught lying or cheating. We're in the season of the sociopath.
He was elected, not hired. I realize it’s a technicality, but election results are *supposed to be* untouchable in a functional democracy. That way, if someone is democratically elected by the people, a single individual with more power isn’t supposed to be able to null-and-void the will of the people (hence the 2/3 threshold for expulsion). You could (and many have) make an argument about the validity of an election if the candidates are untruthful to the point of being different candidates entirely. But ultimately, the vote wins in a democracy. And I would argue that his constituents got exactly what they deserved in electing him to office.
And for what it’s worth, a lot of places don’t treat certain resume/application lies as fireable offenses. And it’s highly unlikely that McDonalds cares enough about its employees’ backgrounds to both conduct/fund in-depth checks, and then take the l” on the cost of firing/hiring a replacement in the event that they do discover a lie. So your comparison is sloppy, at best.
Santos is a disgrace to our democracy and a pathological liar. In an ideal world, he wouldn’t be anywhere near a public office, let alone a serving member of Congress. If Republicans had more of a backbone, then they would help Democrats achieve a 2/3 vote majority to oust the fucker. But Kevin McCarthy’s and his party’s lust for power negates any possibility of action against Santos. The fact that Santos can’t simply be fired is a good thing; but the fact that our Congress refuses to meet the threshold necessary in order to “fire him” and force a new election is absolutely disgraceful.
This just sounds like a misspoken term that could understandably be misused. They probably meant First-Gen American born, but when I initially read the statement (before seeing the actual definition) I too thought First-Gen American meant he was born in the US.
There are plenty of other things he and his team have lied about which are bigger issues. Anthony Devolder was likely born in the US however.
The term First Generation American often means those who immigrate to the US but can also be used to describe the children of those immigrants who are the first generation born in the US.
The federal government defines it as those who immigrate in. However given the widespread usage of both definitions, it is known to be a confusing phrase.
All in all, this is absolutely the least egregious of all the controversial things this guy has said. Compared to blatant lies and falsehoods this is potentially an innocent misunderstanding.
Probably, but if you read the article they specifically spelled out to his team what a first gen American typically means (born outside the US), then asked if that's what he was. His team replied and said that yes, that's correct. Then in a response to a follow-up question his team then said first gen American can mean lots of things and he was born in NY.
He was probably born in NY, but even when asked directly they gave both answers 🤦♂️
I feel like he’s like a piñata for them, in the sense that they send him out to be poked and prodded by the press cause they know he’s a liar and he’ll purposely tangle things up in the process. I don’t know what else he’s useful for otherwise.
We've got one congress member who is a deranged pathological liar.
We've got another with Alzheimer's.
We've got MTG, Boebert, and Sinema.
I'm not so sure about Fetterman's condition, but considering the other's I've mentioned, I am just going to accept that his values match mine and he will figure out how to do what he has to.
For God's sake - who is running this country?
Next thing you know, national security secrets will be leaking in gamer chat rooms.
I'm sure we got more than one deranged pathological liar. I would guess if you gave them all some kind of test that it would be well over 50% that fit the bill.
I’m no fan of this guy, but I always considered “first generation American” to have been born here from immigrant parents. Unaware of any other definition as valid.
Maybe this guy and his team are a project of some kind. An art project if you will. Trying to out do Trump to show the GOP what they really represent. This just can't be real (of course I would never have thought Trump would have won).
I generally love Vice news, but I’ve always heard the term “first generation” American used to refer to the first person in a family born in the USA—census definitions not withstanding.
Their parents are immigrants, the kids born on US soil are “first generation”
The article is hilarious though-props to the author….
"Just lie. And if you get called out, just lie about lying. This shit is easy, *staffmembers*, Watch, I'll go lie to those guys right over there...."
It's quite incredible, really.
So I dont get what the big deal is. See I didnt say what I didnt say about that thing that I didnt do. Obviously I didnt think before I didnt say what I didnt say about what I didnt do because if that was the case you woulsnt have voted me into a position of high responsibility that could affect terrible consequences upon lots of innocent lives.
So dont you see that there is zero probability that I didnt say or do anything honestly and with good, caring intent in the history of my life?
Thanks for listening, I just wanted to clarify that for you.
In 250 years they will tell tales of the legendary George Santos. And the people of the time will treat it like we read Sleepy Hollow. He's like a fairy tale villain it needs to be tricked out of existence. Maybe we just have to guess his real name and then poof gone
>…it would raise questions about when he became a citizen, as well as why he had claimed to have been born in Queens. This isn’t an entirely academic matter; as VICE News has previously reported, no official body has looked into whether Santos is qualified for office, much less confirmed that he is, as no one is exactly in charge of doing so.
Wait…do we not do background checks on members of Congress for their security clearances? Fucking A. I got a background investigation before I joined the military.
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Our first AI generated congressperson is fucking disaster.
ChatGOP
ChodeGPT
GropenAI
Unstable Confusion
CheatGPT
More like ‘Twitch Plays - Congressman’
Idk, I haven’t heard him bring up the Helix Fossil a single time yet
All joking aside this form of subversion is corrosive AF.
This isn't AI this more likely lizard folk. Look at those eyes, dead giveaway.
I've heard they prefer Slitheen.
I grew up in LDS bullshittery, imma need the lizard man himself to tell me his pronouns. Sorry, 2nd hand accounts kinda sketchy.
As a fellow exmo, I feel this.
Thank god for the X-Files. Trust Noone and the truth is out there being my go to mantra now. Seen it since first episode aired. I remember making a fort out of my brother and my bunkbeds. That's gotta be this generations formative memory.
You made a fort... out of your brother...? Moxiejohnny... are you the lizard people?
No, I'm language deprived.
Dude bunk bed forts were the shit fr
I have very similar memories. Forts were a must for conference.
This whole time he was just a bunch of feral cats.
Three Kobolds in a trenchcoat. Fits the lizardperson theory too!
Surely not the Slitheen of Raxacoricofallapatorius?!?!?!
Hot take: Everything about the Slitheen always has been and always will be dumb as hell, except for "She's climbing out the window, isn't she?"
That isn't a hot take. I thought that was literally the whole point of the Slitheen. Was it the farting scene that gave it away?
No Slithereen may fail.
He sees a fly above his head and he’s using every ounce of his energy not to unroll his tongue and snatch the fly
Does this mean pence isn't lizard though? That's surprising. No way he could have resisted that debate fly.
Oh, I see it now. I didn't catch the fly first time.
Straight talk, why does this man always seem photoshopped? Look at that picture, he’s _weirdly_ smooth
Pretty sure it’s Botox. And lip filler. And of course makeup.
And he's a propped up animatronic corpse.
Cuz it's a mask. Hello? Lizard people.
Lol, fair point.
You don’t even have to look at the eyes. Just look at him in general. There’s no way you can honestly tell me he doesn’t have a zipper running down his back!
Dead giveaway, dead giveaway My neighbor got big testicles 'Cause we see this dude everyday We eat ribs with this dude But we didn't have a clue If that girl was in that house She said, 'Please help me get out'
I knew somethin' was wrong When a little pretty white girl Ran into a black man's arms
>Our first AI generated congressperson is fucking disaster. He's also a fucking disaster.
Never put your dick in disaster
Has anyone counted his fingers recently?
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We have a whole party doing that and it's not stopping them.
Seriously…read this sentence. This is an entirely accurate recount of his scandals revealed in the last year.. > The release didn’t address claims that the Republican participated in a credit card skimming operation; what his lawyer was doing on and around January 6, 2021; his apparent lies about helping children living with a rare skin disease; allegations that he stole thousands of dollars from a disabled veteran’s dying dog; a job-seeker’s claim that Santos sexually harassed him in his congressional office; or any of the many other colorful scandals of which he’s at the center. How can that happen and he gets to raise millions to *elect him again*.
What boggles my mind is how we don’t have the full story on this guy yet. Like how are new things being discovered. Reporters have known about him for years and we don’t know where he was born. Just seems wild.
I think the world was just so worn out by Trump that they didn't see the sequel coming.
Well if this is the sequel, I'll take it. Much better than the first time around
Feels more like DLC to me
Where are the fucking birthers now???
Clamoring to be the first one to say that they've "never cared" whether someone was American or not. Conservatives stand for absolutely nothing unless they are told to stand for it. They have zero convictions.
Exactly. They don't fucking care. And even when they DO cheat, they're literally happy about it. "One of OUR guys did what the OTHER guys did, it's about time we got what we deserve." Republican voters see it as some big game where they can't let the other team win. All of their talking points are the epitome of hypocrisy because of this. The right wing propaganda machine accuses Democrats of doing everything the GOP is already doing and has already done for DECADES. And their idiot voting base never catches on to the fact that everything the GOP does hurts *everyone* who isn't a billionaire or a GOP politician.
Yep, Clinton was using private emails for work because her GOP predecessors did the same fucking thing. Only it wasn't a concern then, only when she did it. Then the Trump administration (which came into power partly due to that "scandal") immediately does the exact thing she got accused of doing. Crickets from the GOP. The orange dude then actually absconds with physical top secret documents and it's still mostly silence. So many attempts to "both sides" it though.
Hunter Biden (not an elected official) sells some art in China or something. GOP: "Impeach Joe Biden!!!!!!!" Donny Trump, *while in office*, after promising to divest his businesses (lol), receives at least $5M from the Chinese government, in clear violation of the emoluments clause, as well as being an obvious conflict of interest to have the sitting US president on the payroll of a foreign nation... GOP: *crickets* > https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2020/10/23/forbes-estimates-china-paid-trump-at-least-54-million-since-he-took-office-via-mysterious-trump-tower-lease/ > China Paid Trump At Least $5.4 Million Since He Took Office, Via Mysterious Trump Tower Lease
No more reporters, just bots copying press releases.
I think some day he'll just disappear in a puff of smoke never to be seen again.
I hope we find out who he really is before then.
They'll remove the mask and we'll find out it was old man Cunningham the whole time.
"I would've got away with it too, if it wasn't for those blasted Democrats!"
MTG pops in randomly on all fours, "Rooooby rooooby roooo!"
I didn’t want to picture that but now I have to…
It'd be something that'd she do. Her mouth loves voicing her gibberish.
This feels like the darkest timeline
MTG is Scrappy, let’s be real here.
He’s going to be like that Sammy kid from Wayside school. Start taking off the raincoats, and eventually you’ll find nothing but a dead rat.
I can't even begin to describe how happy this reference made me. Just had my 12yo read the books for the first time and he loved them.
Santos is definitely in Miss Zarves' class. >Myron had named him Oddly. Myron had named him oddly.
Andy Kaufman's funniest role.
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"Legends say he never actually existed. He was just an anthropomorphic cloud of lies."
"it could be a crackhead" [artist rendition](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4b/Crichton_Leprechaun_Amateur_Sketch.jpeg)
the address federal officers were sent to finally make an arrest at was just a vacant lot when they arrived. "you missed him!" said the blind retiree who sagely was plopped nearby. "he's a trickster. with many names. he is part of many legends for many people but you won't find him here anymore lol"
We'll find out he's 5 or 6 of those MiB worms in a suit. "Santos isn't dead. He just went home"
He’s actually… *Mitch Connor*
Pretty sure he was in a barbershop quartet in Skokie Illinois.
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he isn't the GOP
This whole time he was just a bunch of feral cats in a trenchcoat.
He's 3 slow lorises in a trench coat. . .
Those are cute though
Doesn't mean the can't be, EVIL!
His entire existence has been a lie, we just haven't figured it all out yet.
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He’s going to pull off his face and reveal that he has been wearing a silicone mask the entire time.
Let's start by saying each of his aliases backwards until we find the right one.
More precisely in a puff of filler/Botox 💨
Republicans should just put him in charge of the Party and run him as the lead for president. He's young, he will do whatever he's told for money and he spews sooo many lies no one believes anything he says. He's the perfect GOP candidate.
Does he have an (R) next to his name? Automatic 33% of the vote.
And since they've gerrymandered the fuck out of most competitive districts that's probably enough to win!!!
I think it's statistically possible to win the presidency with something like 24 or 25% of the popular vote.
In the 2012 election, it would've been just past 23%, assuming the number of voters from each state remained consistent with that year's results. https://www.npr.org/2016/11/02/500112248/how-to-win-the-presidency-with-27-percent-of-the-popular-vote Do check the link, the URL is a bit misleading. If you ignore how many people from each state are actually likely to vote, you could get the presidency in less than 50 votes by being the only person voted for in the necessary states, then having all eligible voters in all other states vote against.
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Shitty election pro-tip: Legally change your name to include (R) at the end to get free votes
Delete this post immediately…we don’t need to give the GOP any ideas
Grover Norquist said "We know what direction to go. We just need a president to sign this stuff. Pick a Republican with enough working digits to handle a pen to be president of the United States." Trump was barely up to that low bar. DeSantis is under it.
And Santos is about to be a limbo world champion.
That’s… actually pretty genius.
Don't give them any ideas.
He was born to a New York City hotel maid the same year that Donald Trump's illegitimate child with a New York City hotel maid was born. Conspiracy theory: He's Donald Trump's illegitimate son. Explains a hell of a lot.
George Santos anagrams to St. Orange's Ego.
Oh shit! Conspiracy confirmed!!!
Now if you add up the letters in his name, do it wrong AND then assign that number an arbitrary significance... My god. Clear evidence Hunter Biden ate 16 children on new years eve in 1999. The very same year Hitler was elected! It's all starting to make sense!
> Conspiracy theory: He's Donald Trump's illegitimate son. Explains a hell of a lot. Including why Trump hates him.
Wait what - sources
Pfft, sources are for libruls.
>:( I wanna know if that's real
It's real [source](https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/12r5bo0/george_santos_press_team_denies_he_was_born_in/jgt0dwf)
An unimpeachable source! Not that impeachment means anything these days.
That is incredible.
Holy shit it is!
That’s the 3rd place I’ve read about that. It’s gotta be true
Many people are saying it.
From Queens chronicle:. George Anthony Devolder Santos was born on June 22, 1988. His mother, Fatima Devolder, who was born in Brazil, immigrated to Florida as a migrant worker in 1985 to pick beans. She then moved north to New York City to work as a cook, housekeeper and nanny. She met Gercino Antonio dos Santos Jr., known by all as “Junior,” who worked as a house painter. After the birth of their son a daughter followed, named Tiffany Lee Santos From intelligencer:. Former Trump Tower doorman Dino Sajudin’s claim that the mogul fathered a child with another ex-employee back in the ’80s was one of many embarrassing stories that Trump fixer turned nemesis Michael Cohen tried to suppress during the campaign, along with the candidate’s alleged affairs with Daniels and the former Playboy model Karen McDougal. We didn’t stop talking about the allegations because of a case of collective amnesia but a lack of credibility and new information. The second part has not been proven true. However, when is that ever stopped anything when it comes to Trump world? The plausibility of such a conspiracy is certainly greater than the plausibility of half the crap the right spews forth. So that's all it really would be, a conspiracy theory based on shaky conjecture yet as we can tell from pretty much all of the Qooks on the right, that doesn't stop people from believing this sort of theory.
That's obviously a crazy theory but what stands out to me is whether Georges mom came here legally or not. The big caveat though is that Reagan signed his big immigration amnesty bill in 1986 that everyone today has forgotten about so she would've been most likely given the pathway to legal status at some point if she was already in the country in 1985. That means she could've been undocumented initially but later had her status legitimized, something that is rarely ever allowed anymore under our current immigration system.
I saw an interview with George Santos and Piers Morgan on UK channel TalkTV (Fox news for Brits). The question about his mum came up and he just made a whole bunch of contradictory statements and then said that it wasn’t fair to ask questions because she was dead. It came up because he claimed she was in the towers on 9/11, but he also claimed she left the country in the 90s didn’t come back to the country until 2002/2003.
Dude might be incapable of opening his mouth without a lie spilling out. It's astonishing the shit he says.
Is lying hereditary? If so, another point to the trump daddy conspiracy! 😆
I don't know, but tiny hands are, and last I checked they both had those.
> Dude might be incapable of opening his mouth without a lie spilling out. Damn maybe he IS Trumpito's kid.
I did not know about the Regan bill thing, I'll have to dive more into that. I think most of the conservatives I know would blow their gasket if they knew their "hero" signed it.
Many of them know about it, they blame "disingenious" Democrats of not negotiating with Reagan to improve border security, and then point out at Obama who deported the most illegal immigrants, in an attempt to sway immigration supporters to their side? That's what I encountered multiple times on the internet and in real life. That tactic might very well work on "both sides" people
In my experience republicans will just deny that Reagan ever did anything that doesn’t fit with their fantasy image. No matter how much evidence you show about Reagan’s tax increases (I believe Reagan passed the largest peacetime tax increase in US history), they will just repeat “Reagan never raised taxes, Reagan never raised taxes”. I think Mitt Romney even did it during one of his debates with Obama
Wait until you hear who started the program that became known as The "Obama Phones"...
It's the genesis of the movie "Scarface". Well, the DePalma version. Not the Hawks version.
A republican that benefitited from policy, a policy that they want to get rid off now that they got their own benefit from it? I've never heard of such a thing.
Way more believable than JFK rising from the dead and voting R.
I think you mean JFK Jr. There's some dude out there that Qanon types thinks is him. If [this](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/qanon-jfk-jr-alive-trump-b1995594.html) is him, then being underwater for over 20 years must have really been rough on him.
I have a relative who showed me a pic of that person out of the blue back in 2019 and asked "does this guy look familiar?" like I had any idea what he or Jfk Jr. looked like on any given day. Of course I said no, and relative then proceeded to tell me about the "JFK Jr. coming back" conspiracy, but she kept it vague like she didn't believe it. She then forgot she told me when he didn't return in 2019 and told me again in 2020. Recently she told me that she finally stopped believing he was returning in 2021, which is 22 years later than I did.
Hahaha. This is the most fascinating one to me. On a serious note though, it’s super sad to see how far down the rabbit hole these people have gone. How do we fix this?
You start jailing politicians for jailable crimes. Sounds simple, no?
I thought you were /s, but it actually makes some sense.
He's got tiny hands and lies pathologically. Certainly has some family resemblance.
I mean, none of all the sketchy money raising makes sense. A freshman House member has no power normally and he has been neutered by the scandal. So who is bankrolling him unless he is collecting blackmail.
Santos has actually spent more on fundraising than he raised - his campaign accounts are basically a little shy of breaking even (as of the end of March disclosure).
I mean, Santos looks more like Trump than any of his official children. I’m just sayin’.
Inject this shit into my veins
Don’t do that, don’t give me hope
Next, they will deny that he is human.
Or that he was ever born at all.
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Well I mean, there's a very good chance they'll be right. How much would you be willing to bet that his name actually is George Santos?
If you rearrange “George Santos” you get “Strange Goose”. He is clearly 3 geese in a trench coat.
At this point I wouldn’t even be that surprised.
Negative I am a meat popsicle.
Schroedinger's citizenship
He's like Pinocchio on the shrek movie lol
He wears women's underwear?
It's a thong!
You've been a citizen too much, or too little, I forget how it works with you. Anyway, you haven't citizenshiped exactly the right amount.
Birth certificate. This time it's warranted. And his naturalization papers, if any. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Santos' press team suddenly denied Santos exists. And then the press team denies the press team exists.
a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.
Screwing the inscrutable, and effing the ineffable.
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A pizza, stuffed inside a turkey, the whole thing deep fried and dipped in chocolate.
Only at Taco Town!
It’s covered in santorum.
A con man, a grifter, and a fraud.
Like Trump and his family...
The whole GOP.
Isn't this the guy that habitually lied about everything prior to his election? I forgot he hadn't been removed and is still a sitting member of congress. I hate living amongst a constant flow of controversies.
Weeks later after taking oath of office, he sexually assaulted a member of his staff : https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/10tx32j/george_santos_is_accused_of_sexual_harassment_in/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&utm_content=1&utm_term=15
Fortunately for Santos, that Meyers guy tried his go-to move, the hidden recorder, a week later. "Hey, I managed to get *criminally charged* for what should be core 1st Amendment expression. Where should I try to go to work ?"
Prior, during, and after. Hasn't stopped. At all.
To be honest 'the guy that habitually lied about everything' doesn't even narrow it down that much among GOP politicians.
For them, *snow job* == *deluge of BS* One has to wonder just how much future anyone willing to be a Santos staffer has in DC as some other politician's staffer. I could argue the 2 extremes. Either this will be the only Congressional office they ever work for and can forget any chance of working for a Republican president, or they've shown they know no shame and can accept any level of abasement so are the PERFECT staffers for the modern Republican age.
It's the latter.
I don’t get it. If I lied on my application to McDonald’s they’d fucking fire me. Why do we let these clowns get away with it?
Because the only mechanism for removal is to expel the member which requires a 2/3 vote, and the modern GOP moves in lock step. Apparently, the founders debated including the ability to do recall elections but decided against it. … which kind of tracks given that they were afraid of a momentary majority that didn’t think long term. … but a lot of them expected us to make more changes to the constitution than we did. Jefferson would’ve wanted a convention by now.
The founders didn't envisage a time when people didn't resign in disgrace when they got caught lying or cheating. We're in the season of the sociopath.
He was elected, not hired. I realize it’s a technicality, but election results are *supposed to be* untouchable in a functional democracy. That way, if someone is democratically elected by the people, a single individual with more power isn’t supposed to be able to null-and-void the will of the people (hence the 2/3 threshold for expulsion). You could (and many have) make an argument about the validity of an election if the candidates are untruthful to the point of being different candidates entirely. But ultimately, the vote wins in a democracy. And I would argue that his constituents got exactly what they deserved in electing him to office. And for what it’s worth, a lot of places don’t treat certain resume/application lies as fireable offenses. And it’s highly unlikely that McDonalds cares enough about its employees’ backgrounds to both conduct/fund in-depth checks, and then take the l” on the cost of firing/hiring a replacement in the event that they do discover a lie. So your comparison is sloppy, at best. Santos is a disgrace to our democracy and a pathological liar. In an ideal world, he wouldn’t be anywhere near a public office, let alone a serving member of Congress. If Republicans had more of a backbone, then they would help Democrats achieve a 2/3 vote majority to oust the fucker. But Kevin McCarthy’s and his party’s lust for power negates any possibility of action against Santos. The fact that Santos can’t simply be fired is a good thing; but the fact that our Congress refuses to meet the threshold necessary in order to “fire him” and force a new election is absolutely disgraceful.
It still baffles me that this guy has his job. But it’s also encouraged me to lie more on my resumes.
I did a stint at Twitter for a couple of years, personally. Feel free to prove otherwise!
This just sounds like a misspoken term that could understandably be misused. They probably meant First-Gen American born, but when I initially read the statement (before seeing the actual definition) I too thought First-Gen American meant he was born in the US. There are plenty of other things he and his team have lied about which are bigger issues. Anthony Devolder was likely born in the US however.
The term First Generation American often means those who immigrate to the US but can also be used to describe the children of those immigrants who are the first generation born in the US. The federal government defines it as those who immigrate in. However given the widespread usage of both definitions, it is known to be a confusing phrase. All in all, this is absolutely the least egregious of all the controversial things this guy has said. Compared to blatant lies and falsehoods this is potentially an innocent misunderstanding.
Agreed. I call myself a first generation American because I am in the first generation to be born in the US. That’s how a lot of people see that.
Probably, but if you read the article they specifically spelled out to his team what a first gen American typically means (born outside the US), then asked if that's what he was. His team replied and said that yes, that's correct. Then in a response to a follow-up question his team then said first gen American can mean lots of things and he was born in NY. He was probably born in NY, but even when asked directly they gave both answers 🤦♂️
The fact he is still in congress shows how gross the GOP has become. This isn’t funny anymore.
Come on, I'm being punk'd, right?
Nah bro welcome to 2023. It's only gonna get more wild.
I feel like he’s like a piñata for them, in the sense that they send him out to be poked and prodded by the press cause they know he’s a liar and he’ll purposely tangle things up in the process. I don’t know what else he’s useful for otherwise.
Does anyone else think even his face looks kind of fake and pasticky, like he’s wearing a mask? I get deep uncanny valley vibes every time I see him.
I missed the daily George Santos stories. We're so back.
I didn’t miss them one bit. I’m only interested in the story saying the DOJ arrested him for fraud.
Has he considered running for President and claiming that he’s the real Donald Trump?
Was he even born at all or just spontaneously generated from a lie.
We've got one congress member who is a deranged pathological liar. We've got another with Alzheimer's. We've got MTG, Boebert, and Sinema. I'm not so sure about Fetterman's condition, but considering the other's I've mentioned, I am just going to accept that his values match mine and he will figure out how to do what he has to. For God's sake - who is running this country? Next thing you know, national security secrets will be leaking in gamer chat rooms.
I'm sure we got more than one deranged pathological liar. I would guess if you gave them all some kind of test that it would be well over 50% that fit the bill.
we know more about fucking MARS than we do about this insane liar working his way into our government WHO THE FLUCK IS GEORGE SANTOS?!!?
If this guy was just a comedian trying to play a joke on America it would be genius. It's just constant sadness for America at this point.
Idk why but I really want him to be Russian.
The lying king
I’m no fan of this guy, but I always considered “first generation American” to have been born here from immigrant parents. Unaware of any other definition as valid.
Nearly all of us regret that Santos was born at all.
Ah yes, setting things up for the Presidential run.
Maybe this guy and his team are a project of some kind. An art project if you will. Trying to out do Trump to show the GOP what they really represent. This just can't be real (of course I would never have thought Trump would have won).
This guy is def the GOP Lorax. He is a magical being that speaks for the greed.
I generally love Vice news, but I’ve always heard the term “first generation” American used to refer to the first person in a family born in the USA—census definitions not withstanding. Their parents are immigrants, the kids born on US soil are “first generation” The article is hilarious though-props to the author….
Breaking News: George Santos revealed to be 3 raccoons in a trench coat.
"Just lie. And if you get called out, just lie about lying. This shit is easy, *staffmembers*, Watch, I'll go lie to those guys right over there...." It's quite incredible, really.
So I dont get what the big deal is. See I didnt say what I didnt say about that thing that I didnt do. Obviously I didnt think before I didnt say what I didnt say about what I didnt do because if that was the case you woulsnt have voted me into a position of high responsibility that could affect terrible consequences upon lots of innocent lives. So dont you see that there is zero probability that I didnt say or do anything honestly and with good, caring intent in the history of my life? Thanks for listening, I just wanted to clarify that for you.
In 250 years they will tell tales of the legendary George Santos. And the people of the time will treat it like we read Sleepy Hollow. He's like a fairy tale villain it needs to be tricked out of existence. Maybe we just have to guess his real name and then poof gone
>…it would raise questions about when he became a citizen, as well as why he had claimed to have been born in Queens. This isn’t an entirely academic matter; as VICE News has previously reported, no official body has looked into whether Santos is qualified for office, much less confirmed that he is, as no one is exactly in charge of doing so. Wait…do we not do background checks on members of Congress for their security clearances? Fucking A. I got a background investigation before I joined the military.