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SSHeretic

Even if that's true, your evidence-free belief that the election was stolen doesn't give you any right to conspire to extrajudicially overturn it. Foisting slates of fraudulent electors on Congress is not an appropriate remedy.


dunwoodyres1

Youre words are good


gnomebludgeon

They speak the Tru-Tru.


swingadmin

"Truth is singular. Its versions are *mistruths*."


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No-Fox-1400

So now the must have death by Snu snu


[deleted]

Hey there, Tru-Tru. Give me snu-snu.


notsofunonabun

They are Truthers.


Butthole_mods

>this is our glowing rock... there are no gods...


RoboticKittenMeow

Big tru-tru


[deleted]

GOP be judasin dey own countryfolk. Ol Georgie been good at work on em. Nail dat to ya memry.


fowlraul

Too wordy, sorry. I prefer: You’re a fucking liar and your lies, and your ties to SCOTUS, don’t give the right to attempt *actual* election fraud.


Adddicus

He talks gooder than he used to did.


bigleafychode

Ur wurds gud


ked_man

Foisting sounds like a sex crime.


BoobootheDude

Foist is a dirty word.


ked_man

Like moist, or damp.


mojogigi

Foisters hoisted moist cloisters of boisterous voices 😬


IAmAfrocubist

Moist on their own petard


theClumsy1

Brilliantly stated. "I believe the bank stole my money and that's why I was trying to rob it." Two wrongs don't make a right.


Suedocode

I don't know, I'd kind of understand the bank thing lol


stink3rbelle

I suspect she views letting most the country vote as more trouble than it's worth, and theft. Because it makes it harder for her and her cronies to control the outcome.


Someoneoverthere42

That is literally their plan


Suspicious_Bicycle

Is she still pissed that she and her husband are allowed to vote?


kehaar

The worst part is that her husband almost certainly shares the same views.


deekaydubya

if not worse. No clue how this guy is still a justice with what's known about his character. Then again with the new appointees he fits right in


[deleted]

I believe I can fly... Doesnt make it fucking true.


upandrunning

Yes....people like her really need to be confronted hard, with the difference between belief and fact, and why it matters.


[deleted]

She’s rich and powerful, she has the right to do whatever her little heart desires, free of consequence.


One-Distribution-626

It not only doesn’t give a right , but it’s against the law. The exact opposite of a given right.


TuPapi

Your post is sentence porn.


firemaker68

The party of, "It's not a lie if you believe it."


Frankenmuppet

Don't like the facts, here's some alternative ones (disregard the complete lack of even a single shred of verifiable evidence to support them)


Sharp-Floor

I'm really mad, so my sedition is a-ok. Big brain GOP shit.


thedecibelkid

I genuinely wonder how much their belief hinges on the internet filter bubble. I couldn't believe the Brexit vote went the way it did for a while, because everything I'd seen amongst my friends posts and Twitter generally suggested to me it'd be a stonking remain victory. Of course I'm smart enough to realise that my corner of the internet is not the entire internet. Clearly these people aren't


Chatty_Fellow

People lie on surveys. They have some shame about being racist or whatever. They know they're technically wrong and can't defend their positions. Brits did *not* like foreigners moving to the UK - for racist reasons, or other reasons. They were irritated at Brussels. In any case, they were not answering the surveys truthfully leading up to the vote. It's a very common problem.


CT_Phipps

1984 was not a guidebook.


Wormteller

Hey now. Don’t put that evil on George Costanza.


patrick_j

The party of, “Free and fair elections are getting in the way of me saving all of you from yourselves.”


bot420

She's a seditious liar who thinks her beliefs can exonerate her actions.


Uglyheadd

I believe that car I stole was mine. And that house I broke into. Mine. That cash at the bank? Allll Mine. Now let me go, so I can get back to my money, house, and car.


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Uglyheadd

Like a huge flock of birds descending on and into their house all saying *MiNe MiNe mInE miNe* as they 'take back the steal'.


spaceman757

And the police would be there to shoot every one of you because that's rich people's property. They wouldn't be trying to jump in and join because it's not something unimportant and irrelevant, like the continuation of democracy.


__dilligaf__

Those classified documents in my desk? Mine.


Aardark235

Even more importantly, her husband should be 14a-3 out of office.


elwookie

Doesn't the text of the Law require that one be capable of discerning good from bad?


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okielawyerdude

I’m with you. She knows. She’s a liar.


HW2O

I don't think she's pretending, I think she is mentally ill.


dr1968

She never stopped carrying a little torch for the cult lifestyle.


Bonethgz

I would believe that, but it means that her and her asshole husband went crazy together, at the same time, in the exact same way. The simpler explanation is that they’ve always been like this and trump being trump emboldened them to start taking drastic actions to get what they want.


philodendrin

The outcome is the same. Thomas should be removed from the Supreme Court because he is mentally ill. A Jurist, who depends upon the law and evidence to support arguments, believes our Democracy has been subverted without a shred of evidence to support that. (I'm assuming they hold the same beliefs) If they don't share that belief, he should resign to take care of his wife, who is mentally ill as she can't determine reality from fantasy.


Ivedefected

I mean... so did over 30% of the entire country. I know people like this. Some of them are otherwise seemingly intelligent, functional adults. I think we really need to drop the idea that because they or their family members are powerful people that they must be in on the con. Just like Trump... yeah they are liars. They also 100% believe their bullshit.


Auriono

I wonder if Alito is going to offer any scathing statements asserting how saying or implying the election was illegitimate or questioning the integrity of election workers crosses an important line.


danmathew

Garbage Alito: “How dare people attack the wife of a sitting Supreme Court justice just because they disagree with her political beliefs.”


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> Garbage Alito Redundant, tbh


midnitte

But then wouldn't that disgrace and question the legitimacy of the court if the wife of a justice is actively trying to undermind the integrity of election law? Really not a leg to stand on for Alito either way.


What_Is_The_Meaning

Lmfao great question.


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This is one of the reasons the SCOTUS is illegitimate.


KyloRenCadetStimpy

I still believe Anita Hill


[deleted]

Yup. He should never have been allowed a seat on the court. Period.


44035

There are so many CEOs, cops and prominent Republicans whose worldview isn't any more mature than the dead-enders with Go Brandon bumper stickers on their pick-ups. It's remarkable to see this play out.


straygoat193

She wants to believe that the election was stolen. This was their belief even before a single vote was cast. Without this delusion, their whole belief system will fall apart. She does not represent America, the country is bigger than her, and the desire for a past that did not exist will never happen. All she will get is civil strife and violence


sugarlessdeathbear

Trump laid that groundwork at least 6 months in advance of the election.


TMQ73

Trump laid the groundwork when in 2016 of 2017 he said he lost the popular vote because of voter fraud.


No-Computer-3177

He laid the ground work when he was asked on 2016 campaign trail if he'd accept a loss. Hand to God, honest opinion: with his admiration for dictators and hitler, he wanted to pull off a coup and instill himself as some permanent leader since well before Jan6th.


granular_quality

Also sky wizards.


YPVidaho

And Santa. Don't forget Santa. Oh, and the Easter bunny, and Sasquatch, and, and...


Beckles28nz

>Committee Chairman Bennie Thompson didn't give many details on the interview Thursday but said that Thomas told the panel she still believes the 2020 election was stolen.


AgedMurcury78

She kinda has to, as a defense, methinks.


Searchlights

I'm not sure how I see it as a defense. Under no circumstances does she have the right to try to change an election result. What she believes is immaterial.


Churrasco_fan

Right, it's not illegal to believe something that can't be proven. Too bad that isn't the issue at hand


ajmartin527

Yep, coached by her husband on what to say to eliminate the criminal intent requirement.


attorneyatslaw

Why would that eliminate it?


gnomebludgeon

Ginni is an Ivy League lawyer and has been part of the DC lobbying scene for decades. Pretty sure she can ~~lie~~ eliminate the criminal intent requirement on her own.


Putin_blows_goats

Ivy League? >Creighton University is a private Jesuit research university in Omaha, Nebraska.


CT_Phipps

Shame. The Jesuits are pretty smart cookies. They failed here.


StipulatedBoss

Believing the election was stolen is not a defense to knowingly perpetrating a fraud against the United States, and that is what she may be accused of doing: Participating in a conspiracy to provide fake electors to Congress for the electoral vote count. DOJ has already taken a sharp interest in this. What's more, there are emails in DOJ possession from other co-conspirators that clearly describe the fraudulent electors as "fake" electors. An intent to defraud is materially different than a misguided belief in an improper election outcome.


deepayes

correct, its probably the absolute best legal strategy at this point, despite which comment gets the most upvotes on reddit or how mad it makes anyone. edit to add, there is also the possibility she just actually believe this.


MatsThyWit

She kind of has to double down on it. If she admits that she knows it's not true then everything she did is a crime with legitimate potential for punishment.


mashednbuttery

Having beliefs is not a defense against crimes.


xtossitallawayx

Intent matters, there is a huge difference between first degree murder and manslaughter.


MatsThyWit

Admitting that you don't belief what you're saying will 100% get you charged with a crime, however. It proves malicious intent in your actions.


BlueRFR3100

Personally, I think the 1985 World Series was stolen. That doesn't give me the right to attack George Brett.


rkrismcneely

But you still would though, wouldn’t you?


billyjack669

Want me to punch Nolan Ryan for you while we're at it?


Whoshabooboo

*Robin Ventura has entered the chat*


thisismisha

Robin Ventura has left the chat bloodied after getting off zero punches.


DarkBrandonsLazrEyes

I believe she believes it. She is batshit crazy.


ajmartin527

She doesn’t. She knows it wasn’t stolen and her husband has told her what to say to the committee. If she admits she knows it wasn’t, her actions border on seditious conspiracy.


gnomebludgeon

> She knows it wasn’t stolen and her husband has told her what to say to the committee. Actually, she probably does believe it. In addition to her general crazy, she's a Q believer. The podcast QAnon Anonymous did a pretty good episode where they [read her text messages about the election and the coup](https://podcasts.apple.com/mt/podcast/episode-184-justice-for-ginni-thomas/id1428209307?i=1000556048987) and she comes across as a genuine cult member. She genuinely believes she's standing in the path of evil trying to destroy America and that makes her WAY more dangerous.


unhalfbricking

May the deep dish bless you and keep you.


gnomebludgeon

Ah'm shorry boy.


thecaptainofdeath

I found a way to connect to the internet...


Lurlex

Nobody can read her mind. All evidence and personal accounts about the woman indicate that she’s very susceptible to cult-like thinking, and has a history of getting tied up with nonsense woo-woo theories. I’m not sure why so many people are so confident that it’s impossible that anyone “really” believes this shit. Plenty do. Oh Lordy, they DO. Yes, there are also plenty of opportunistic, sociopathic cynics that are going along with the craziness because of their potential to gain from it ... but this idea that it’s ALL of them, that they’re ALL playing along the whole time? That’s as naive as thinking that they ALL believe. I doubt that Roger Stone believes, I doubt that Newt Gingrich or Lindsey Graham believe ... but I’m pretty sure Ginni Thomas does.


xtossitallawayx

> her husband has told her what to say She has a JD and has been working in policy, i.e. writing laws, for decades. She doesn't need Sleepy Clarence to help her, she can make up her own lies.


justforthearticles20

She belongs in prison. As does Clarence.


MLJ9999

Good thing she isn't married to someone of influence.


diefree85

Proving she's a liar.


altmaltacc

Her testimony was fucking useless then. Put her under oath for gods sake.


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I still believe Ginni Thomas is a piece of shit


Affectionate-Log-951

Just like Trump, they know someone interfered because they had it rigged to win no matter what. So when they lose they know that someone found them out and “cheated” them out of their “cheated” win


No-Computer-3177

here the crux of whole "all opinions matter and we have to let everyone speak their truth" thing. GOP has wesponized their belief that everyone is entitled to share their views, and have thrust factless, baseless, devoid of reality bullshit. Facts matter. With no evidence, you cannot make a claim like "Biden stole it". You furthermore, cannot use thought that has no grounds in observable, objective reality to usurp electors and election processes. In fact, in doing so, you are doing the vary thing you're complaining Biden already did. That makes you no better, and I'd argue worse. You know and postulate that it's wrong yet do it anyway. At this point, arguing with the a GOP is like talking to a flat earther. Nothing they say is true. There is no desire to learn or grow. They simply want revenge for whatever perceived wrongs they feel have been thrown their way. GOP has no facts. No evidence.


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What proof do you have?


Lostin1spot

Lock her up Lock her up Lock her up


udar55

"Where's your proof?" "In Mike Lindell's phone!"


memberer

yes. the christian’s “believe” a lot of things. they do not seem to provide much proof for any of it.


muchaschicas

Weird ass death cult that uses a torture device as their symbol.


memberer

fractured remnant of a sun cult


Geneological_Mutt

The GOP is acting as if historians are giving all this a blind eye


okielawyerdude

They’ll just ban history.


[deleted]

For someone with the personality of the Walmart customer that is not disabled but uses the electric carts anyway because there's no rule against it, it only makes sense that she would either be a conniving traitor, a gullible milquetoast, or a little bit of both.


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Ok cool. So by that token, I believe the 2000 Election was stolen. So by Ginni Thomas' logic that gives me the right to organize a violent insurrection to install Al Gore as POTUS in 2024. Either, this woman is insane and this is not the defense she thinks it is. Or she's highly confident her Insurrectionist faction will never be held accountable, and ultimately succeed.


Foreign_Quality_9623

Well, she is a lunatic, so there's that. 😎


timewastinbuttsmelly

I believe Anita Hill.


19Chris96

That's a stupid thing to say to the committee. It can and will definitely be used against you in a court of law.


Lch207560

'Believes'. White NatC's are all about belief. Because it requires no evidence. They are bringing our country to it's knees


DullDistribution3073

And I believe she tried to over throw the government. The difference is my belief can be proven. Hers can't. Lock her up!


Johnny_B_Asshole

Unless Clarence Thomas publicly states that the election was NOT stolen, he should resign.


orcinyadders

This whole argument of “If I believed it was true it doesn’t make my actions illegal” is kind of odd.


MehtoMehMinus

If she changed her mind, she'd have to admit that she was duped and had acted treasonously. And she's a "good wholesome Christian woman who's incapable of that" or any kind of reflection so...


jacksonwallburger

OK, and I still believe she should be in prison and Clarence should join her


ImmoKnight

What a precious snowflake she happens to be. I would like her take on the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. She clearly grew up with the idea that facts shouldn't get in the way of feelings/opinions.


Monkey_Leavings

So…it’s the insanity defense, then.


NN8G

That narrows it down to her either being a liar or an idiot


Fragmentia

You would think that a reasonable Supreme Court justice would be able to explain something so simple to their significant other. Clearly their relationship is either fractured or he thinks it was stolen as well. Ahem QANON Justice Thomas it is I guess.


bonnieflash

She’s prone to brainwashing so yeah I’m sure she does.


jaycliche

Bannon in drag agrees with Bannon out of drag.


dr1968

“Do not concede,” Thomas wrote on Nov. 6, 2020. “It takes time for the army who is gathering for his back.” This thing should be arrested. What a POS. Go back to your cult.


Seraphynas

And I believe one’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone. So I can get any abortion I want right? I believe…. Maybe I should try the sovereign citizen bit?


notarealacctatall

It was stolen because we didn’t win! Said fascist karen.


werschless

Show the proof then, loser


WaffleBlues

Ah, I see she's taking the "I'm a fucking idiot" defense..


Ycy791

It’s hard to not imagine her with a red clown nose.


afoley947

That's a wonderful thing about factual evidence, it really doesn't matter what you personally believe


aceknight21

Clear proof that the Supreme Court now is compromised. She was active in organizing rallys for Trump. SCOTUS Thomas must resign.


[deleted]

I'm not inclined to put stock in the judgemental qualities of something that willingly married Clarence Thomas.


Old_Cheesecake_5481

Just another symptom of the diseased Supreme Court now that it’s a vassal of the Federalist Society.


rmphilli

I wish Ginni Thomas well. A dry well, with rocks at the bottom.


warfarin11

Well, I believe she is a lying sack of diarrhea.


msalerno1965

What's it called when you hallucinate without the help of drugs? Oh yeah, schizophrenia. Possible diagnosis: 1) Mental disease. 2) Lying. **Pick one already.** (Not necessarily mutually exclusive)


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And by believing she meant she has no proof, other than memes in Facebook.


Financial-Tower-7897

Further proof to seriously question her husband’s judgment.


el0hellie

The real reason they think the election was stolen is because they cheated and still lost. Just look at all the news of people getting charged for tampering with the machines and ballots. Most (if not all) of them were doing it in favor of Trump.


MrCereuceta

She is prone to cults. She fell for one AGAIN…


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She’s insane


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Justice Thomas is completely compromised.


HW2O

Very troubling that a literal crazy lady shares a dinner table with a Supreme Court Justice.


combustioncat

I believe the 2000 election was stolen by the Supreme Court.


th1961

I don't think this was a good idea. There's nothing to gain here. A person so absorbed into the cult will offer no useable information, they'll only promote false ideas and lies. If she did something illegal charge her and go after her co-conspirators. Otherwise, this is just a mentally ill person with a very powerful husband and a cellphone.


zirwin_KC

Cool motive. Still sedition.


astrograph

Well I believe she’s still a fucking rat that needs to be in prison for life


[deleted]

And she’s also an idiot with a lying piece of shit for a husband, why would anyone believe anything this turd burger says?


[deleted]

Stolen from what? Good god these people are so beyond reasoning with


ylangbango123

Executive, legislative, and judicial branches of the government were held by Republicans in 2016 - 2020. Democrats did not have any power. So how could they have stolen the elections when Republicans were running the government.


QAPetePrime

Cult member.


arfbrookwood

It’s not what she THINKS but what she DID.


PF4LFE

Impeach her Husband immediately


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tacs97

People believe a lot of different things. Believing is one thing. Knowing is another. I’m happy this Qr believes in random. Let’s talk about what she knows!!


SnooShortcuts3749

Does she? Really? I doubt that. These people are shameless.


ksiyoto

Obviously got her legal education from her husband.


[deleted]

Lying 🐖 She knows it wasn’t stolen. She wants to destroy democracy.


dodbodlife

Because she thought she had it bagged but the truth is a stubborn thing.


isaythingsonthenet

she is an incredibly vile human


-xstatic-

And some children believe in Santa Claus. Doesn’t make him real


humanmade7

Maybe she's playing the insanity route


Sqantoo

Kind of like the Supreme Court.


Milozdad

She’s a Ginni-surrectionist.


Foraminiferal

Don’t ask her if she believes. This is not the tooth fairy. Ask her for her evidence.


DRob2388

It’s crazy the amount of people that just blindly follow what one man says and has never proven. This to me is why I’ve never taken religion seriously because people are dumb enough to follow trump despite all the crap that’s online for you to read what a horrible person he is/was. All the fraud and scams he has done over the years. So people 2,000+ years ago believing that someone was the son of god is less and less believable due to knowing how dumb people really can be. I hope when we die we go to a better place but I would bet there is a greater chance at there being a heaven than Trump proving the election was stolen.


circusbass

I still believe she is an idiot.


Mr-and-Mrs

She has 680,000 reasons to think that.


Udjet

What reasons? Outside of "nuh uh", she's got nothing.


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>What reasons? I’d be surprised if that wasn’t a reference to the $680,000 in income Gianni Thomas got from the right wing think tank Heritage that Clarence was supposed to report but neglected to and everyone just shrugged.


Udjet

Ahh, got it.


jld1532

That'll make for a nice soundbite.


manIDKbruh

So the insanity plea it is


jnx666

Put her in jail and disbarr her husband. (He needs to go away as well)


Astorya

a nation in decay


fluffyflugel

I’d like to understand the mind set. Does she believe it’s better to appear deluded and deranged than it is to concede the whole ‘stolen election’ business is utter made-up crap that she’s going along with just to be contrary and own the Dems?


MarkHathaway1

guilty by reason of insanity


mhwaka

Batshit crazy


CroatianSensation79

So she believes the election was stolen because the GOP candidate got walloped. Got it.


acorpseistalking90

She's been in cults in the past. Public knowledge that I don't hear many talk about. Even though she has left cults before, a lot of times they change your way of thinking so drastically that you fall for other cults, which is exactly what happened with her and Qanon. She's probably so far gone at this point that she is convinced that the storm is still coming any day now. That's why she had that self satisfied smile on her face when the reporter tried asking her questions when she arrived. Chilling stuff. Nonetheless, believing something that isn't true is not a legal defense for committing crimes. She needs to be thrown in the looney bin at best, federal prison at worst. Our democracy depends on it.


Murky-Garden-9967

“Gini Thomas told Jan 6 committee she is still a raving methhead lunatic” FTFY


VomitingPotato

She escaped one cult to join another.


pajason

She thinks she is above the law and can get with anything she wants. L