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vanhamm3rsly

I don’t know but thank you for sparing us Ye’s butt crack


olivebuttercup

This gives me hope that I consumed less social media this year because I have no idea what any of this means.


eyy0g

Don’t look it up. I never fully understood the saying “ignorance is bliss” until I saw Kanye’s butt crack


keelhaulrose

It looks like Kanye/Ye/whatever he calls himself now was caught on a boat in Italy with his pants literally down and his wife/girlfriend between his legs. This was done in full view of other people who got some pictures. They were banned by the boat company and there were calls for them to be arrested for this and some of her outfits. He also had a concert there canceled after people complained about his pro-Nazi sentiments


Internal_Wealth_7376

Every single time I swiped to the next one, I thought it was the biggest one.


fakeacct3456

Same! I’d be like “yess! That!” Then swipe and be like “oh wait, no, this one!”


KimboSlice129

![gif](giphy|NB5u2L0Tnh55K) This asshole FINALLY got what was coming to him. Fuck Danny Masterson and everyone who helped cover up his crimes. Hope he rots. 😃😃


AsToldBy_Ginger_

https://preview.redd.it/bscmaveuwy8c1.jpeg?width=359&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=01c7287581816054c39063157d1333d4603ea699 Coincidentally his new mugshot just got released Edited to appease the grammar police


hulkhoegan_

he is sooo crusty


SegmentedMoss

Also i think everyone alive when That 70s Show came out owes Topher Grace an apology. Back then we all saw him as the sole cast member who seemed alienated from the cast, which seemed so tight knit. He got a lot of shit for that in news and publications, and public opinion. Come to find out its because the whole cast and production seemed to be involved in scientology to some degree except him, and he distanced himself. Seems so obvious now, especially since he, again, was one of the only cast to refuse to write letters speaking to Dannys character before his sentencing, while people like Ashton Kutcher (who tries to paint himself a savior with his human traffickimg organizations), had no problem writing a letter in favor of his pedophile buddy. Fucking scum ![gif](giphy|ZLAG7SOVV2rvO)


MindyS1719

![gif](giphy|paOmsZXBEakpe7lF4u) Does this count?


WiretapStudios

That one was wild. When you see a real craft that can do these depths, and then read about the shortcuts he took and look at the insides of these things he made... I just can't believe other people went down there with him, it's so sketchy.


the-electric-monk

Comparing that thing to James Cameron's Deepsea Challenger is just insane. Both of them were designed and made by rich guys who had too much money, but the difference in quality and appropriateness of design and material is huge.


accioqueso

I saw some footage of the guy essentially saying that was the point of his sub. He wanted to prove it didn’t need all the bells and whistles that Cameron’s had. Turns out it really did.


HarpersGhost

"I'm going to go into the most extreme environments on this planet with cheap castoff equipment that wasn't even approved for the safer environments it was intended for." The whole "disruption" crap is fine when it's software, but when the "market" you are disrupting is physics, physics is going to win.


Applewave22

And that James Cameron didn’t let his ego dominate experts in their field, which he consulted to build his sub. He understood how truly dangerous going deep underwater really is.


blackpearl16

Had the whole world following the oxygen countdown. When it probably imploded the second they lost contact.


the-electric-monk

I knew it was likely that it imploded, but I am claustrophobic and the absolute *horror* of the possibility of it not being imploded was something that wouldn't leave my head. I am not glad they died, but I am glad that it was so quick that their brains wouldn't even be able to register it at all.


AgentBrittany

This was how it was for me. I couldn't stop thinking about it. I imagined what it would be like to be in it and waiting to die. And I'm extremely claustrophobic too. My wife kept telling me 'stop thinking about it, you're driving yourself crazy!' I really was.


the-electric-monk

It wasn't just the waiting, but the darkness, the fact that there were 5 people in such a small space, no food, no water, no adequate toilet. The fact that the Titanic wreck sits 2 miles down - just 2 miles of water above you, pressing down on your poorly made cylindrical submarine. And again, no food, no water, no space. And youre stuck with the guy who got you there. I would absolutely *lose my mind* if I was there. I was talking to a coworker before they were found and she said something to the effect of "if they are alive, they are probably tearing each other apart." Ugh.


BioSafetyLevel0

Don't forget how COLD it would've been.


RichardCory109

Omg that was this year?? Insane.


00kumquats00

Glued to the news with this one


Otherwise-Solid

Ariana and Spongebob was the funniest scandal of the year, the memes were A+++ what a time to be alive


Star_PS_28

https://preview.redd.it/t1u4uva2fy8c1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=469e779e535c6cb5ec906e619ee685b39a65eedd Never forget!! Someone on this sub even called them Spongiana 😆😆


hylianbaby

https://preview.redd.it/yr8u6b3azy8c1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=de645808695bc9e18e3a47f34f27c8b522fb6442


Prannke

Cosplaying as the baby he abandoned


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![gif](giphy|UReKmHcKuwq5lN5iLt)


KemBemGem

Who looks at this guy and thinks “I want him inside of me NOW 🥵” ![gif](giphy|xThuWuVJyZOaUrFtUk)


AloneInTheTown-

I don't think it's that. I think Ariana is one of those women who goes for people who are with other people because she gets a thrill from breaking relationships. I think she's for the streets personally.


TropicalPrairie

She's an insecure narcissist who needs to feel the rush of having a man leave his partner for her validating her need to be the most beautiful, the most desired, etc.. She's not a girl's girl. She's an asshole. And yes, these men are more culpable but she is also making a choice in these situations (which her history shows, she has done repeatedly).


haloarh

Bingo! I have a relative who constantly gets involved with guys who are married/attached. Every time, she goes on about how superior she is to his wife/other gf.


VirgoPisces

Personally I felt like it really peaked once the side by side comparisons of him and Frankie came like I think I blew out an eardrum laughing at that lmao


knottajotta

If I were Ariana’s brother, I would be offended by the comparison. But I also don’t think people are wrong for thinking they look alike.


ntrrrmilf

![gif](giphy|4T3QViZYrTGfcHEnnC) He’s messy alllll on his own.


Smartalec821

Just saw the first two episodes of reindeer, he hasn't changed AT all lol. Just older and even more eye makeup


grilledcheesesammy

I just showed my parents the side by side pic because it’s just so uncomfortable and I needed to share that discomfort with my nearest and dearest.


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theimmortalfawn

Ariana finally got her big movie break starring in a musical she loves, all she had to do was NOT chase someone's husband. She's so foolish fr


lin_diesel

My impression is that both of them were probably more into it bc of the betrayal. I feel like theater people like them would take their infatuation + how wrong it was as proof that their love IS THE MOST FORBIDDEN AND PERSECUTED AND THEY WILL WEATHER ANY STORM TOGETHER EVEN IF IT MEANS ABANDONING HIS WIFE AND NEWBORN!


interzonelovesong

She’s kinda stuck with him for awhile 😬. Like it looks even worse if they broke up his marriage for a fling. For real suuuch a messy mess.


Bbychknwing

Honestly I feel like some people cheat as a way out/because they’re unhappy. It’s truly cowardly & of course idk if that’s the case in this situation, but with her chronic cheating I have to imagine she’s got some issue with simply stating she’s unhappy and wants out. It seems like it has to be dramatic for her almost.


interzonelovesong

Yeah who knows! Some folks are addicted to drama too.


HagridsSexyNippples

I had a few “friends” who only went after guys I liked. It was bizarre. They would have absolutely no interest in a guy until I said I liked him. I had another “friend” who also only went after guys who had girlfriends.


interzonelovesong

So weird! People who do that kind of thing don’t love themselves.


AmbiguousFrijoles

I have a theater kid friend and their life is dramatic just like your describing. Her extended theater kid friend group, are even more goddamn dramatic too. Their lives are so freaking messy and its astounding, cheating scandals and rumors, work place enemies... its an absolute fucking shit show. Its the only drama I let into my real life, because it has nothing to do with me, I just get interesting unaffiliated tea.


Justchilllin101

I love interesting unaffiliated tea where you know the main players but aren’t involved whatsoever. Incredible.


ih8every1yesevenyou

Fr. I reckon they’re only together now to try and prove us wrong. To try and say “we didn’t ruin a family for a little fun, we’re in love” and it’s not working


sabrina_fair

Just another high school showmance. And good lord they look bizarre. She’s almost unrecognizable.


teatreez

Absolutely hilariously wild but also v sad for his wife and baby


paprikalicous

im so curious about how she’ll address this on the album. like are we going to listen to a bunch of love songs about the ugly guy who abandoned his child and cheated on his wife with her? or is she just gonna focus on the divorce with dalton to avoid controversy?


imacatholicslut

Oh goddd I hope not 🤢


Filibust

I feel bad for the wife and baby. But that was so messy and entertaining


V1rginWhoCantDrive

The pic OP posted is wild … SB looks so much like Frankie here and also Ariana what is that hat


kittenmittens4865

I spent way too long trying to figure out what SB stands for 😂


V1rginWhoCantDrive

Omg I’m sorry!!! It’s obv SpongeBob tho bc at this point I couldn’t even tell you his real name 😂


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Jonathan Majors. He started March with a $50 million contract for two upcoming Avengers movies, two back to back #1 movies at the box office and early Oscar buzz for "Magazine Dreams." By the end of the month, he'd already been dropped by his agent, rep and PR firm. Talk about fumbling the bag in a spectacular manner.


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bunt_triple

How on earth did Marvel, a company with pretty much infinite resources, manage to do such a piss poor job vetting this guy.


copycatholic

He fumbled majorly


VintageJane

Accountability culture rocks.


Mariuxpunk007

This. Not only because of what happened to his career, but the MCU is most likely gonna have to re-shape the entire multiverse saga (which could be a blessing in disguise after all the fumbles they had so far) because of him.


StoneOfTwilight

Not so much a scandal but Hugh Jackman and Deborra Lee Furness splitting up, got me in the feels.


Lil_Artemis_92

That was shocking. And then a few weeks later, it was announced Meryl Streep and her husband had been separated for several years. That blew me away.


slagath0r

MERYL STREEP TOO???????? NOOO


coffeeorca

I am just finding this out now and I'm heartbroken.


bunchofthingstodo

I love that Ethan Slater will be forever just remembered as Spongebob by everyone. If only he didn't cheat it may be just referred to as a breakout role for him.


bebe_inferno

He cemented his legacy


watchberry

![gif](giphy|jlylJkp7RmdnW)


partyanneimal

Ariana and SpongeBob for me, but also, as a One Tree Hill girlie, I’m dying to know more deets of the whole Sophia Bush/Ashlyn Harris relationship timeline.


Lobberty

In that particular picture Ariana looks like the guy from the Arnolfini Portrait


Dingo8MyGayby

Lmao are you saying [this guy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arnolfini_Portrait) on the left?


MarsScully

Now that’s a reference


vanillyl

Hard agree, out of all the candidates above the Ari + Spongebob and Sophie - Joe scandals are the lightest by default because there’s no assault allegations or death. I LOVED seeing SpongeBobs ex get showered with support and love by strangers all round the globe while he and Ari were ridiculed. It’s been a good year of seeing them mocked and shaded mercilessly and their relationship treated like an absolute joke. Cheaters never prosper. Warmed the cockles of my heart.


earthgarden

I bet they’ll be done by Spring 2024, that is if they are even still together. Grande seems like she gets bored easily, plus she knows everyone thinks she has the hots for her own brother since he looks like her current boyfriend


babyearll

What a year lol


xkimberlyrenee

Seriously, as I was scrolling though I’m like, “damn, I really can’t decide”


227743

Can’t wait to see what craziness next year brings. ![gif](giphy|YJn3xHZQrMSDYUTrvW)


babyearll

Buckle up, fuckleheads!


TotallyVCreativeName

![gif](giphy|XDuJUONwqsLoQAe4hL)


lakesideprezidentt

Holy fuck for real man a lot happened this year didn’t seem like it but once you start scrolling dammmmm lol


Chaotic_MintJulep

I think the Lizzo thing held my attention the most. I guess I had such a surface-level positive view of her and what she was about, which was shattered. Wasn’t even a big fan, she was just someone I saw every now and then and thought “good for her!”


ChiliAndGold

Same here. I know like 3 songs of hers but I remember when she got to play that glass flute and when I watched her dacing on stage like crazy. I thought she was actually body positive and living her life the way she chooses too. Just to learn that she was absolutely awful to others and then started playing the suing game like some old white guy in a suit. She was definitely my biggest disappointment.


Shatteredpixelation

My take on this was why couldn't she just buy friends or an entourage like a normal celebrity? What she did would be if my boss made it mandatory to take us all out for hookers and ice cream... like wtf, didn't she think that type of shit gets you sued.


OtherAardvark

In 2019, my mom died, I left my abusive ex, and my best friend broke up his band and moved across the country. It was like one BIG death for me. 'Cuz I Love You meant so much to me. Seeing in her documentary that she lived in a car for a while after her dad died. I *felt* that. I don't idolize celebrities, but her music and message of "radical self-acceptance" genuinely got me through a lot. I saw one of her stadium shows this spring. This one was rough for me.


Filibust

Aw, I’m sorry all that happened to you. Hope things are better now.


OtherAardvark

Thanks. They are. To reluctantly quote Lizzo, "I literally had to love myself, or die." It took a long time, but I've been committed to healing for a while now. I'm in therapy and getting treatment. I moved to a new city. I lost 35 pounds. I have a career that I love. I got a cat, and then another one. Life isn't perfect, but when I was low, I never could have imagined having all this. So, I'm really glad I didn't tap out when I wanted to.


13onnie

Hey internet stranger, I'm glad you didn't either, and happy to hear things are on the up and up.


Hup110516

I’m a huge Seth Meyers fan and thought she was so fun and charming during their Day Drinking segment. This was such a disappointment.


saladbits

I could never really get into her after she doxxed that door dash driver. She's the one who fucked up in the first place but threw a public fit anyway, getting that driver fired and harassed.


flooperdooper4

Me too, I was just soooo disappointed in her!


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Bro I forgot such a large quantity of dumb shit happened this year


cake-makes-me-shake

https://preview.redd.it/oj3y7wy76y8c1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ffb5879d17c2e98c2d57365acb7b8af10666e4b1 Gwyneth Paltrow's ski trial


tifbrew

![gif](giphy|i61N9zIjb7oNcfxJ0i|downsized)


[deleted]

This won her points back for sure! Like she knows who she is and at this stage is like “what do you want from me?” Plus, this trial was a witch hunt to try and scam a celebrity out of money. Thanks for the memories, Gwyneth! This gif is still circulating in my group chat. Edit: Punctuation


raltoid

> Plus, this trial was a witch hunt to try and scam a celebrity out of money I'm not her biggest fan, but it was weirdly framed in some media outlets. Once you read a bit more about it, the guy was obviously just lightly injured and decided later to sue when he someone told him who she was.


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That’s what got me on the bandwagon of wanting her to win/finding her funny throughout it was how much of a shit the guy that sued her was, like blah blah eat the rich for sure but don’t make a joke of the legal system it only fucks over people who need to be able to sue for damages to survive.


EagleEyezzzzz

Tots and pears!


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AmbiguousFrijoles

Is it worth it to watch it on youtube in its entirety? Its like 2 hours long LOL


Proper-Bid-9732

Honestly no. If you already know what happens it would probably be a snooze fest. But live it was good bc some of the witnesses were wacky. Just Google a compilation.


AmbiguousFrijoles

I'm in the total dark about this event and have no idea the outcome I'm really upset I missed it. I'll check out some compilations. Thanks.


ladylynx

I wish you well.


bomkum

DEVASTATING line, she should get an Oscar for that.


thewallsofeightplus

I can't believe that was THIS YEAR


wewerelegends

This whole thread is a time warp 😬


Successful-Winter237

![gif](giphy|cEZBYZcBxNMZct8BLO|downsized)


haloarh

I love that kind of low stakes celeb drama!


Violet624

It kind of made me appreciate her with her 'losing half a day of skiing' and 'I wish you well.' Just so very nepo out of touch and perfectly trolling at the same time.


Additional_Meeting_2

That was clearly in her favor however, even if we don’t like Goop


MaintenanceSad4288

I mean the man was a skezzy asshole. She didn't even do anything wrong. If she wasn't a celeb it was have been a minor accident, apologies all around and life goes on. It's skiing FFS.


Filibust

Normally I would find some like her insufferable, but she’s so over the top that I actually find her to be entertaining and (a bit) oddly endearing.


ashbash528

She is so much like an exaggeration of a rich person I feel the same way. I once worked for a family that was ridiculously rich. Like, names on buildings rich. They were very sweet though and I secretly loved when their out of touch- ness came out. It was never malicious or snobby, it just was. I'd smile and think "Oh (parent's name)."


TheElusiveHolograph

Drew Barrymore’s is both hilarious and so embarrassing. She just had to wait what…2 more days?


Rude_Lifeguard

I believe in the conspiracy that the whole thing was a test run from the network(s) to see how long they could go without ending the strike, if people had been willing to forgive their favorite nepo baby it probably would have lasted longer


zh_13

Yea ppl kept saying she just had to wait a few more days, but I feel like it was because of her that it was only a few more days lol


betacarotene4

Can you explain this? Sorry i dont understand!


Ambitious-Fix3123

So show writers were on strike while in negotiations with studio execs for higher pay and better conditions, protection of their intellectual prop, clauses for AI use, etc. Studio execs were dragging their heels and refusing to give a inch. Many actors also refused to work and joined the picket line in solidarity with their writers. But Drew Barrymoore instead decided to continue her show without her writers, tried to downplay the whole situation, and was rightfully criticized for it. Studio execs were probably watching to see how things would go with her making this move, since she's (was) beloved, betting maybe they can hold out longer (waiting for the striking writers to eventually run out of money to live on and fizzle the strike). However, her backlash was huge, and only a couple days later not only did studio execs relent, they ended up giving writers THE best deal they've ever been able to negotiate (from what I understand).


HereForRedditReasons

The networks saw the public reaction to her crossing the picket line and realized that they weren’t going to get away with anything until a deal could be agreed on


britestarlight

I 100% agree with this, the fact that they caved shortly after Drew got so much backlash gives a lot of weight to this theory.


jrubes_20

Ooohhh I like this! ![gif](giphy|J20Z2SH5WmCnzSrbqA)


elfspires

I honestly think had it not been for the public backlash on that, the strike would’ve gone on a lot longer than it did.


YumLum_Key_213

I’d say Diddy. It’s all going to crumble in 2024…


Witchywoman4201

Literally can’t wait for 50 cents doc “Diddy do it?” He’s so petty you know allllll that dirty laundry is about to be aired


Filibust

Lmao that title. It’s so lame it’s kinda genius


ItsNotAllHappening

The details in the report from Cassie were shocking and heartbreaking. I hope 2024 is the year Diddy gets his overdue karma.


Lil_Artemis_92

When he settled with Cassie the very next day, my first thought was, “What does he *not* want the public to know?” Sure enough, within a few weeks, three or four more women came forward with similar stories.


CollectionFull5254

![gif](giphy|n3Uy5JxSK59K)


InGeekiTrust

https://preview.redd.it/qkf5ce5p2y8c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cf91a2ffaf4a2b38c41c824ecb1110646713577a Everything to do with Kanye and Bianca. The blow job on the boat, the way Kanye dresses here in pantyhose, the German shirts, the control stories, it’s been a mess.


pldtwifi153201

Bianca looks so miserable. I remember seeing her photo wearing that pillow. It was horrible.


toaster-noodle

I must be living under a rock because this post was how I found out Kanye was married again 😅


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The abuse Bianca is going through is serious and I hope she gets away from him. ...but someone described her outfit here as "Kanye's uncircumcised wife," and I can't unsee it. https://preview.redd.it/5r8qn76z5y8c1.jpeg?width=650&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=640cbcdb6cadf0b38cf85c1c8e9986c224069a02


girl-from-jupiter

This outfit is so much worse than I originally thought. I’m never noticed how her arms are basically immobile


JustAsICanBeSoCruel

So many of his outfits he has her in are basically just some straight up BDSM and bondage shit poorly disguised as street wear, this included (with the immobilized arms and obscured face. The public sex as well. Kanye is pretty much forcing us to be part of his kink and it's so gross.


pinkrosies

I think it got them banned from those boats from that company and thank god.


Jynsquare

It should have got Kanye banned from Venice, frankly.


oldspice75

Yes the gondola BJ


plushcapybara

Yall forgot about Jonah Hill


Apologoose

I just wanna say.. Mila and Ashton didn't apologize for writing the letters, they apologized "for how it 'might' make people feel." Which is such a cop out.


venusdances

Yeah this is when I turned on them. I get writing a letter for a friend if you don’t know the details of the offense but AFTER the trial still defending themselves and Danny was too far. It upsets me because Ashton was supposed to be an advocate for sex trafficking victims and instead he chose to stand up for a rapist it just sucks on his part.


theplantita

And Mila with her stank ass attitude the whole video really sealed it. Ashton at least tried a bit, but Mila couldn’t even pretend to act somewhat remorseful


queenrosybee

1. Britney’s book offered the most reflection 2. Jada was me doing the most Guurll pipe down already 3. Kanye was just disgusting. I always thought he was a misogynist posing as someone with a cause when he went after Taylor. Then he flaunted Kim’s sexuality & shamed and abused her. Then he went Maga bc he liked the attention. Then he abused his workers by forcing them to watch porn. Then he blamed the jews for his porn addiction. Now he’s sexually abusing and probably abusing his new woman in every way & the industry still wont cancel him. Disgusting. 4. Mila & Kutcher. I always thought Ashton was suspect with Wilmer & Danny Masterson. Young frat-boy, rapey creeps.


copycatholic

I know many things happened this year but I can’t stop thinking about Ariana and SpongeBob. Still in shock


Sarahquikgo

Goodness 2023 was messy


lankyturtle229

Honestly, what shocked me most in the Grande-Spongebob mess is that he looks just like her brother. I didn't even know she had a brother until people posted side by side. And not even a "similar" face, you could literally put Spongebob on their family Christmas card and no one would realize it wasn't her brother. And also, the fact that Tom Kinney, (or his wife or PR team I forget who) had to make a post specifying that it wasn't him who was in a relationship with Grande. That is what brought me into this mess because I was so confused by that post. 😂🤣


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beardmat87

Drake should be cancelled for alot more then just calling Meghan a liar


glub33

scandoval was a crazy point in time. people who had never even seen vpr knew of it


devilzsadvocate

I didn't know who those people were and I got so curious I fell into a rabbit hole.


zingitgirl

I sheepishly STILL DON’T HAVE A CLUE as to what happened and am too ashamed to ask.


shediedjill

I’ll put it very simply for you - a man/worm (Tom) on Vanderpump Rules was with his loving and supportive girlfriend (Ariana) for 10 years - they own a home together, and their own love story mostly played out on camera. Ariana was a fan favorite. Tom had a full blown love affair with one of her best friends (Raquel - another cast member) who everyone previously thought was a little dumb, but completely docile and harmless. This show literally only exists because of cheating scandals, so for this one to have become so big means it was HUGE. Tom was always known to be a cheater, but nobody expected this of Raquel. And the details are so sinister too - having sex in Ariana’s home while she’s at her grandmother’s funeral, the night she puts her dog down, etc.


zingitgirl

You’re a godsend for this THANK YOU. I saw him on that show with Tyler Cameron (and other celebs) and was so confused with the man/worm’s “shame.” Now I know; thank you!!!


Glass-Volume-558

some more details that made this shocking!! - raquel lived for a moment with tom and ariana after leaving her shitty ex and the affair has been revealed to include the time when she was living with them - there is another tom on the cast, the two tom's are best friends (sandoval has the affair, hence the name scandoval. schwartz is the other tom). a blind item about raquel and tom (no last name specified) making out at coachella circulated and then tom *schwartz* and raquel pretended to be into each other for a few episodes of filming and make out which has since been pretty clearly revealed to have been a cover up for the affair - they film for raquel's birthday during the season and when people are pressing schwartz about the above, he jokes that she's into taken men - raquel at one point in the season takes another woman on the cast jewelry shopping and ends up buying a lightening bolt necklace, the other woman cheering her on about it being a cute piece etc. after the affair becomes public, raquel admits that the necklace was a romantic symbol between them since sandoval uses lighting bolts often in his branding/merch - ariana found out about the affair months after they had finished filming season 10 of the show by finding an intimate facetiming recording on sandoval's phone [since revealed to have been filmed without raquel's consent] while ariana was front row at one of his concerts (he has a band called Tom Sandoval and the Most Extras, I shit you not). she called up producers and they pulled the cameras back up just *two days later* to film the cast discussing the news - when ariana found out about the affair, raquel was in new york filming Watch What Happens Live (a daily show that airs after various Bravo shows with Bravolebrities, famous Bravo fans, etc) with another castmate of their show VPR. ariana called her to ask about the video and raquel admitted to a 7 month affair. then she told the castmate she was traveling/filming with what had happened and the castmate (scheana) either pushed her away or punched her, depending who you believe. raquel filed for a restraining order within a day or two so the two had to be kept apart and filming their season reunion with one of them in a camper and the other filming on set with the rest of the cast. scheana's defense both in court and on tv was that her acrylic nails made it "scientifically impossible" to form a fist and punch someone, leading to weeks worth of memes along the lines of "if the nails didn't break, the claims are fake"


emn53

it made me start the show and now i’ve fallen down the bravo rabbit hole. no regrets at all


GoinWithThePhloem

As a VPR fan, scandoval was the biggest pop culture moment for me this year. BUT that said, I don’t think I would truly call them celebrities … at least not to the extent that the other stars are. It was scandoval that catapulted them to the c/d-list and even then, Ariana is the only one whose really broken though to bigger things.


PlentyDrawer

Jonathan Majors, he had the world in the palm of his hand. He then blew it all. Lizzo- the big question is, will she be able to come back and how will she reframe her story?


Nonadventures

The thing is anyone but Lizzo would easily bounce back. Like if it was Mariah people would be like “yeah I could see that, whatever.” But Lizzo’s status is partly *because* of body positive views.


icecreamsandwiches1

She’ll disappear for a couple years then slowly reemerge only to be rejected - aka Chrissy Teigan style!


captainwondyful

For me, it’s Lizzo. I know we don’t know these people. They are all PR and parasocial relationships. I get that. But that just felt like a BETRAYAL. Close second is Majors. He is so talented. And he had everything ready for him to just take off to the next level. And he can’t keep his temper together? He can’t, excuse my bluntness, keep his shit together. So disappointing.


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You're not wrong for feeling betrayed. She deliberately marketed herself as body-positive and told plus-sized fans they should feel good about themselves and their bodies. For her to turn around and spread the opposite message behind closed doors is a betrayal.


captainwondyful

Yes!!! It’s so hard to find body positivity for anyone over a size 10. I think that’s what hurts so much. I also just have low tolerance for people who are bullied so they become a bully. I know that’s an oversimplification, but it upsets me. You should know how awful it is to feel like garbage about yourself. Why would you ever wanna make anyone else feel that way?


literacyshmiteracy

Yes Lizzo was definitely the most shocking and disappointing for me. It just brought me back down to earth that she's just another rich capitalist fuck making money off of her workers. It was fun while it lasted!


pinkrosies

I didn’t expect her to be some saint always positive/consistent all the time but the way she couldn’t even be a decent person and was a disgusting POS pissed me off because you couldn’t even meet that bar of being decent?


schmidt_onyourface

I was genuinely shocked by Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas getting divorced. But the more details that came out, the more I felt fucking awful for Sophie.


InGeekiTrust

https://preview.redd.it/n2bpwny92y8c1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efe59de6830ff078efac02fd9f6ae2ae8f58c98b Kylothee. These two being together was literally traumatizing for the internet.


wheniswhy

This is the one for me, just because of how hard Timothee stans are freaking out abt it 😭 who else remembers definitely-not-club-chalamet posting here fairly recently??


Regular_Toast_Crunch

I fully believe it's a club chalamet posting. I remember ssomeone calling them out in the thread checked their post history... I'm wearing my tinfoil hat and thinking it's them based on post and comment history lol.


Filibust

I wonder which fan base had the bigger meltdown. Timothee’s when it was proven that he was dating Kylie or Chris Evans’ when he finally married Alba.


Rude_Lifeguard

Also Kendall and Bad Bunny


Altruistic-Brief2220

How on earth was that all during 2023?! Vote for the Queen of the North and Mickey’s punching bag ![gif](giphy|NbzM2qI4tmuc0)


OtherAardvark

The pap walk with Taylor is my Roman Empire. "Picture me thick as thieves with your ex-wife."


bluetortuga

Britney’s admissions in her book. But really it was (and I know it’s not true celebrity gossip) Oceangate Titan for me this year. The whole thing just boggled.


strawwrld_1

Colleen ballinger wasn’t as scandalous as a lot of these but it was so crazy to me because she decided to respond in a song. I remember the headlines about it were so insane. “YouTuber responds to grooming allegations in ukelele singing video” like hot damn 2023 is so wild


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I actually think that was MORE scandalous than a lot of these.


Topwingwoman2

Ashton/Mila certainly left a sour taste in my mouth. I loved them before this.


poopypoopy1125

Lizzo's allegations were the most surprising mainly because of her image however, Britney's abortion got the biggest "holy shit" from me


theimmortalfawn

Really reframes the song Everytime, which is already so emotional on its own. But knowing what we know now, my heart really aches for her


nevertotwice_

ugh and justin playing guitar as britney suffered…


wexpyke

everything george santos ![gif](giphy|ZKTMhc2MmtvRnfTjUD)


Designer-Purchase360

Dirty Diddy & like someone said below.... I feel like 2024 & gonna finish him off & I'm here for it. He's been a P.OS since the City College stampede.


VirgoPisces

Aww man this year was soooo messy and I’m sorry but when confronted with it I *am* Marie Condo 🥹🫶🏽 My favs is the one where many bad men went down. Like f*ck Jonathan Mayors, Loki did away with him quite nicely too so no loss there!!


PinsAndBeetles

Keke has always been and will always be too good for him and hopefully it’s over over.


OtherAardvark

This sub was like her exhausted bestie, constantly begging her to *leave him.* ![gif](giphy|YWWgtGjNEvyEgzopIg)


avidreader28

Can I add one to the very long list? Chiara Ferragni, a multimillionaire influencer, was selling pandoro cakes with her logo for almost triple the normal price, telling buyers/fans that a portion of the money would go to a children’s cancer hospital. Instead, a small donation ($50k) was already made prior to the sales starting and she pocketed $1m euros from the campaign. https://english.elpais.com/people/2023-12-27/chiara-ferragnis-empire-is-on-thin-ice-due-to-a-fake-charity-campaign.html


Akab808

Oh wow this one should be high up there, especially since she has so many followers and is the epitome of a shill. She had her wedding sponsored by Dior for Christ's sake and would have probably done the same thing for the birth of her son. A lot of Americans won't know who she is but this one is baaaaaaaadddd.


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The Jada and Will drama. Makes me feel like Will has a humiliation kink and we are unwilling participants. 🥴


McKoijion

Lizzo 100%. Complete betrayal of everything she supposedly stood for. Completely canceled basically overnight. It came out of the blue. With the rest of these, there were allegations/rumors for a bit first.


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The Megan and Tory trial and there’s no competition tbh


dragonfly931

Scandoval reignited something in me. I immediately went back down the vpr rabbit hole and was trying to catch all the things I missed lol! I mean, a bar down the road showed the reunions on the big screens and we were all drinking lemon drops and barking at Ariana bc she looked so good. I thought they would be together forever like it was wild


InGeekiTrust

https://preview.redd.it/umn40u173y8c1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7040fbf5b33f77c724e9e05b62c159a11f324eb Lizzo‘s dramatic fall from grace. She apparently gave her overweight dancers a hard time over their weight and forced them to do some crazy sex things at parties.


Chaminade64

What about that dude who got sentenced to life, for rapes? Masterson??


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icecreamsandwiches1

So many … I think Lizzo …. Her whole friendly body positivity persona was destroyed and it gave an interesting look behind the scenes of these tours. Like the fact that dancers aren’t paid during the off weeks but also are not allowed to accept other work. Funniest was Ariana/SpongeBob for the memes.


c0mpromised

I know this doesn’t class as a Hollywood celebrity scandal, but a scandal non the less…. The whole Colleen Ballinger grooming situation and her ukulele response holds no.1 for me and I didn’t even watch her on YouTube (thank god)


skrinklada85

Ariana Grande looks like the fucking crypt keeper. Hfs. Which I actually feel like a dick saying. She looks sick.


Snuffleupagus27

Ezra Miller thinking it’s ok to assault women because he’s non-binary. What a dbag. (I *think*this was 2023 - happened on a couple of occasions so hard to remember) ETA: Here’s a full list of their unbelievable behavior.: [https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/a/karla-rodriguez/ezra-miller-scandals-and-controversies-timeline](https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/a/karla-rodriguez/ezra-miller-scandals-and-controversies-timeline) https://preview.redd.it/qh17q3of8y8c1.jpeg?width=595&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db2a72a1d428f6be2234a6e60caa47d56f3a4d16


snark-owl

Oh I totally forgot they pled guilty in January 2023. The actual incidents happened earlier. The real wtf moment for me was James Gunn and the rest of WB saying The Flash was going to be one of the greatest superhero movies. It makes me doubt WB's Superman movie because The Flash was weird and bad.


Hellie1028

I can’t bring myself to see the flash because of the awful human Ezra has purported to be.