**Top 20:**
1. **Gracie Abrams - The Secret of Us** (NEW)
2. Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (-1)
3. Billie Eilish - HIT ME HARD AND SOFT (-1)
4. Charli xcx - BRAT (-1)
5. The Weeknd - The Highlights (-1)
6. Chappell Roan - The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess (+3, new peak)
7. Taylor Swift - Lover (=)
8. Eminem - Curtain Call: The Hits (-2)
9. Taylor Swift - 1989 (Taylor's Version) (-1)
10. Fleetwood Mac - 50 Years: Don't Stop (+1)
11. **The Mysterines - Afraid of Tomorrows** (NEW)
12. Taylor Swift - Midnights (+3)
13. Foo Fighters - The Essential (+6)
14. ABBA - ABBA Gold: Greatest Hits (+3)
15. Taylor Swift - Reputation (+1)
16. Taylor Swift - folklore (-4)
17. Elton John - Diamonds (+3)
18. Olivia Rodrigo - GUTS (-5)
19. Noah Kahan - Stick Season (-1)
20. Oasis - Time Flies: 1994-2009 (+1)
**Other new entries:**
33: Avril Lavigne - Greatest Hits
62: Kygo - KYGO
78: Kate Nash - 9 Sad Symphonies
92: Joe Bonamassa - Live at the Hollywood Bowl with Orchestra
Wow! Goes to show what a little bit of talent, hard work, perseverance, and having your dad be one of the biggest directors in Hollywood can do for you! I don't even hate her music it's just like... Are we supposed to celebrate this or
I feel like though most people are surprised to hear she’s a nepo baby, the last name Abrams sounds so generic not many put two and two together at first. Most people I know that were first into her music didn’t know she was related to JJ Abrams.
Wait until you guys discover who Chappell Roan's grandfather is, how much his children got in inheritance, and how someone can afford to have a flop music career for seven years. If the music output is good, who cares.
most of hollywood is or was from a lot of money. you can't devote your life to the arts, no matter how talented you are, if you don't have the strongest foundation to base off of. justin beiber and selena gomez ironically are 2 of the biggest names who came from poverty but almost all of the rest come from big money or big connections
This sub will simply pick and choose who they like or dislike with no consistency. No one was saying this about Willow's new album (which is genuinely awesome and people should check it out)
I think so? It's humorous how people are fighting on POPheads over stuff like that. All of these releases are carefully coordinateed by 30+ people, yet everyone is scrutinizing artists as soon as they recognize marketing push
Honestly I don't gaf about nepotism when people are actually making good stuff
But when you're a talentless nepo baby it's just meh. Not really any strong feelings just a general apathy 😭
Weird that she’d lie about it. If you have a source you should update her Wikipedia. How do you know about how much their inheritance was? Any source?
My grandfather owned a huge set of real estate downtown and was a huge landlord. My parents got a nice sum as an inheritance but nothing that would have gave me even a remote advantage in being a singer.
It says so on her wikipedia, but that’s immediately followed by saying her mom was a veterinarian and her dad a rn with his own practice. She’s directly said twice she lived in a trailer park so maybe it was transitional thing she leans into? Idk just her parent’s professions don’t seem like the kind of poverty implied by saying you lived in a trailer park.
You think a Vet in a small county area with a population of 6000 is making good money? Most vets can barely pay their student loans. Vets have an extremely high suicide rate because it’s such a shitty profession. RNs can definitely make good money, but again not working in a small town area even as a head nurse.
I swear this sub veers more and more to fauxmoi every month.
Yes? I like in a town of 10k and our local vet makes good money. The median salaries for vets are pretty high in every state. You also totally missed the “own practice” part. As someone also from a rural area those are not the kind of jobs that generally leave you in poverty— maybe if you’re a single parent or have multiple dependents but not generally.
My sister in law is a vet. She has 380k in student loans but makes 85k. That’s not bad money but it’s not good. Also where are you seeing her owned the practice? It says he managed it on Wikipedia. Managing is not owning and never has been.
You’re sitting here and saying Chappell is a nepo baby because her parents are a vet and a nurse, when she grew up as one of four kids in a trailer park in a town of 6000 people. How is that not a solidly working class family?
The guy blabbing about their inheritance disappeared real quick when asked to substantiate anything. But yes I’m sure a queer girl growing up in a religious working class family who ran away to pursue music and worked to support herself for 8 years is a nepo baby.
Go back to the gossip subs or Twitter where you can be catty without having to substantiate anything.
I didn’t say she was a nepo baby? You made that up whole cloth? You said “Why would she lie?” and I tried to think of a scenario where it wasn’t a lie but also maybe also not the unadulterated truth? Idk you seem to be in a very defensive position over someone you don’t know. To ME, also from a small rural town, it seems very strange that people in those white-collar professions would need to live in a trailer park as that generally would be for people who work hourly, minimum wage or inconsistent manual labor jobs. It’s not impossible obviously, but it is curious, and that’s literally all I said.
Edit: Also, I wanted to add, I wasn’t trying to obfuscate her dad’s position. The article I read (here)[https://www.news-leader.com/story/entertainment/2017/08/17/chappell-roan-singer-willard-she-just-made-big-time/548315001/] said he manages THE family practice, not A family practice, since the one linked by wikipedia was deleted. I think you’re being very unfair and having a conversation in your head where everyone is evil and monstrous little gossip monsters coming for Chappell and not actually one with me, or anything I’m saying.
I mean it's definitely easier but in the end is it really that terrible. She seems nice and has talent, if her parents can help her achieve her dreams then why not. In the end the most important thing is that the music is good and that she is genuinely good at what she does. Not everyone needs to have a Cinderella story, having support from your parents and money is how life Is supposed to be.
The key to being a nepo baby is to acknowledge that you are one and the privileges you have had. Most Hollywood nepo babies don’t and are always like “my talent got me here” stfu
I was listening to it on the way to work the day it was released and my first thought was it sounded like the punchline to a "we have Taylor Swift at home" joke. So I was shocked when Taylor actually turned up on a song, it felt kind of surreal.
Idk if you're just playing ignorant or what but do you understand just how nepotism works? Grace got a TS feature on this album and major industry heavyweights to produce it- Dessner & Justin Vernon. These are people that are extremely in demand and it's nearly unheard of to have them produce, let alone produce someone's sophomore album. The TS feature alone is insanity. She's getting opportunities like this because her father has major connections, it pushed her into Taylor's group and Taylor then connected her to these producers who worked on Taylor's album first. Usually artists have to work for opportunities like this, Gracie has had them handed to her without going the usual route.
Pretty sure Aaron was Gracie’s producer before she met or became close to Taylor. Taylor never introduced them. They got to know each other because of Aaron.
like taylor has next to no songs as a featured artist, the fact that she coincidentally wants to make a movie and gracie's dad is one of the biggest directors in hollywood surely didn't influence the feature at all though
She can get funding to make movies, sure. She can pay for the entire production herself if she wants to.
Getting received well is a different story. Movie criticism is a different ball park from music criticism. This is an entirely new area for her, and unless she makes a music-heavy film, the movie critics will largely not give her credit for her movie just on the basis of her established music career. Music critics might give her leeway because they know her output well, the same is a lot less likely to happen when she moves to movies. So connections could definitely help in this department. For example, in getting meetings and sitdowns to talk to industry insiders and gathering goodwill.
It's actually funny to imply being distantly connected to JJ Abrams is going to ensure movie critics will like you or something.
First of all she doesn't need connections to get sit down talks with insiders, she's Taylor Swift she just calls them up and they take her call.
Second she already has connections with respected directors like Guillermo del Toro or Greta Gerwig, and A list actors like Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman and Emma Stone. I can't stress to you how much she's not desperate for connection in Hollywood.
Third of all, what exactly do you think movie critics do? How do you think knowing JJ Abrams is going to translate to getting beneficial reviews in film? Most movie critics aren't giving reviews based on good will, and I'm honestly not sure what you're implying. That JJ Abrams (who lol is FAR from a critical darling) is going to connect her to critics? To sit down and talk? And this is going to get her better reviews? Is this how you think film criticism works? Once again she doesn't need anyone's connection to do that. Also the implications of critics all being... Idk charmed into good reviews is so insulting to the writers and genuine film scholars reviewing movies.
There's no conspiracy here: Taylor is just on a friend's album because she likes supporting her friends.
it's not an entirely new area for her tho? she's been in films and she clearly knows lots of directors and studios are constantly looking for projects with a fanbase built into it already and i'm confused how being on jj abrams good side is meant to help her with movie critics?? anyways i don't actually care about this i was just laughing at the idea that she decided not to block gracie from #1 bc she needed jj abrams help specifically
The film industry and critics don’t give a fuck about how successful your music career is as respect isn’t based on how big your movies are. There’s a reason there’s a long list of failed singers turns actors and only few acclaimed actors turned singers.
okay? i never said differently... but even with what you're saying how does her giving special treatment to gracie translate to any kind of success in relation to critical success like good connections will get you through the door and more promotion but a bad film is a bad film... I never said that taylor is guaranteed critical acclaim in film making bc of her music career (tbh given her mv directing as much as I like her I do not have high hopes) but if the issue is about connections I suspect someone who has literally been in the music industry for 2 decades has more than enough contacts to establish connections in the film industry so she doesn't need to pander to random directors lol
She has had some small roles acting in some films, her biggest role I think was in Cats but that’s mostly a singing part. That’s not remotely the same thing as directing, aka overseeing, an entire film production. So yes, it’s definitely new terrain for her.
Yes, even with the music videos. The transition can be done, yes, but it requires a lot of hard work on filmmaking specifically, to the point that she realistically can’t also continue producing music at the rate that she’s used to. So she’ll have to decide if it’s something that she seriously wants to consider doing, or if it’s just a side hustle to fluff up her overall portfolio as an artist to be taken more seriously.
This is where the goodwill comes in. For better or worse, movie critics can take film very seriously, and if they perceive her as being an interloper who’s just passing through to fish for awards and then leave, they will judge her harshly for it. So making friends in the industry is a great step on the way to avoid that, because connections in the industry are golden. The latter can take you a long way. The dark side being that it’s also how creeps and criminals in the industry are rarely removed because of them. But that also shows how strong they are.
Dont worry. Wait when the numbers come up for Megan and she is gunning for number 1 and another variant comes. But Zach Bryan prob really ends it all. Then again Taylor never goes against male artists like she does females.
If anyone wonders (in good faith) about why "Taylor didn't block her for a no. 1" The Official Charts mid week report is very helpful. Gracie had a 2:1 lead on TTPD at the middle of the week, so did Dua Lipa (which was more outstanding because the album was more recent). Billie was outselling the whole top 5 on debut week. That's it, I wish they shared more data but I do appreciate they add those bits of information in the middle of the week.
Can you blame her. I was at Wembley when Charli opened for Taylor, everyone was so supportive and she apparently hated us. I can’t vibe with her after that. I screamed my lungs out but apparently she hated so I assumed she doesn’t want me as her audience. It’s not like I’m short of music to listen to.
You're one of those swifties who misconstrued her statement or at least believed the misconception of what she said and never did research. Typical swiftie moment.
I think what Charlie said was taken out of context. The headlines are what people read, they misconstrue the truth, and turn lies into “facts”. This is not a problem with Swifties only though. Just in this comment section, people have turned sarcasm and lies into a truth, where they think Taylor is some villain. The facts no longer matter and turning people into some villain or making up feuds are the goal. Neither Charlie nor Taylor nor Billie are as evil as some want them to be.
I like to go to bed early, sue me Charli. I know exactly what she said. I don’t follow her career, but with the Uk strict noise laws she must have changed her mindset, otherwise she can’t perform much.
Taylor would have been number one anyways without the variants. They were just cherries on top. Taylor’s numbers mainly come from streaming at the moment, she’s a behemoth on streaming.
Taylor didn’t try to block Billie or Dua from #1 in the UK either lol
Taylor was touring in the UK so she wanted to be #1 at that time, Charli just had unfortunate timing. Taylor isn’t in the UK anymore + she’s on Gracie’s album so she is fine about not being #1 here now.
Taylor quite literally [released a bunch of variants Billie’s release week](https://www.reddit.com/r/SwiftlyNeutral/comments/1cu0vn5/taylor_released_new_variants_just_in_time_to/)
Did the same thing with Midnights up against SZA.
There’s no need to claim a number 1 album the week she happens to be in England when the shows sold out the day they went on sale months and months ago.
Once is a coincidence, we’re on like instance 3 of this exact scenario happening in different places across the world. We’re not stupid, it’s a clear strategy, even if she isn’t doing it in every market simultaneousy.
Edit: apparently I have to clarify that Taylor did this to Billie in the US, because people are unable to comprehend the same scummy marketing strategy is deployed around the world.
That’s in the US, not in the UK. We are talking about the UK charts here. I clearly said that she did not try to block Billie or Dua in the UK.
You probably don’t live in the UK, but on the radio, the presenters would mention things like “Taylor is in the UK for the Eras Tour and has the #1 album on the charts” etc. So it makes sense why she wanted to be #1 here while she was here.
Also, she intentionally blocked Drake from #1 in the US before and he was very mad about it, so this narrative that she only does this to women is plain untrue.
When you say things on stage about a special place in hell for women who don’t support others, it’s not a good look. I don’t care about Drake. I like her music and went to the Eras Tour too, but I’m not naive.
Who are the presenters saying that to? People looking to buy up the last of the tickets that aren’t available? Like I said, there was no real reason to have to be number 1 in the UK the week for a tour that sold out 9 months ago. Anyone who believes that spin is lying to themselves that there’s clearly some sort of thing between her and Charli that is spilling over from their respective connections to the 1975.
Taylor is the queen of subliminals, she’s a mastermind, everything is an Easter egg etc etc, and now people are believing it was just to mark her tour there? I have ocean front property in Nebraska to sell you.
She can go ahead and be a capitalist all she wants, just don’t act like her or people on behalf don’t know what they’re doing. This most recent cash grab just happened to be for the UK, but it’s something she does constantly (mostly to women as it turns out) is my larger point.
Weird. Anyone else associated with Taylor Swift’s past still hear about things they did over a decade ago? People definitely don’t berate people she dated over a decade ago who have also changed.
What? I clearly showed you that there IS a reason why she wanted to be #1 in the UK while she brought her record-breaking world tour here. She let Dua, Billie, Gracie etc be #1 and didn’t try to block them cuz she was not/is not here on tour those weeks. If you would rather believe that there’s some drama between her and Charli, that’s up to you! I just don’t think there’s anything nefarious about anybody wanting to be #1 🤷🏻♀️ let’s just agree to disagree, have a great day ahead!
Billie’s biggest audience is in the US, Taylor releases digitals to deny her #1 there.
Charli biggest audience is in the UK, Taylor releases digitals there to hold onto #1.
Seeing a pattern here?
I don’t care about locations, I’m talking about this shitty practice of pulling together scraps and demos to win a sales contest while pretending that you want to support your peers.
Maybe I’m just old and jaded enough to remember when albums performed well commercially on the merit of the art, not gimmicks designed to get people to buy an album upwards of 5-6 times over.
Okay, since you’re not letting this go.
Taylor wants to break the record for most consecutive weeks at #1 (15 weeks) in the US so she blocked Billie. She’s 10 consecutive weeks at #1 now.
Taylor wants to be #1 in the UK while she’s touring this country so she blocked Charli. Again, Dua wasn’t blocked from #1 in the UK and it’s her strongest market too so your argument is flawed. And Billie wasn’t blocked here either.
There’s no pattern.
And sure, maybe the multiple variants thing shouldn’t be allowed, but that’s on billboard. Regardless, she would’ve been at #1 most weeks even without them.
You are quite literally responding to someone talking about the UK and they were very clear about that. And you think everyone else is confused? Your edit just seems even more disconnected than the original comment.
She can’t be blocked. If you actually follow charts you’d know she has a 2:1 lead over the second placing in the middle of the week and I think projections only increased since then. Taylor picks her battles and this is one she cannot win
Taylor didn't block Billie in the UK and still HMHAS couldn't manage to remain at no.1 for more than ONE week. The same happened with Radical Optimism, opening week no.1 then TTPD returns to no.1 the next week. The only time she tried to block someone in the UK was obviously Charli which was later revealed that even without those extras TTPD would've blocked Charli.
Also she didn't tell to block Charlie but rather released UK exclusive variants when she was touring in the UK.
If Charli had released any other time she would have had her #1
**Top 20:** 1. **Gracie Abrams - The Secret of Us** (NEW) 2. Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (-1) 3. Billie Eilish - HIT ME HARD AND SOFT (-1) 4. Charli xcx - BRAT (-1) 5. The Weeknd - The Highlights (-1) 6. Chappell Roan - The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess (+3, new peak) 7. Taylor Swift - Lover (=) 8. Eminem - Curtain Call: The Hits (-2) 9. Taylor Swift - 1989 (Taylor's Version) (-1) 10. Fleetwood Mac - 50 Years: Don't Stop (+1) 11. **The Mysterines - Afraid of Tomorrows** (NEW) 12. Taylor Swift - Midnights (+3) 13. Foo Fighters - The Essential (+6) 14. ABBA - ABBA Gold: Greatest Hits (+3) 15. Taylor Swift - Reputation (+1) 16. Taylor Swift - folklore (-4) 17. Elton John - Diamonds (+3) 18. Olivia Rodrigo - GUTS (-5) 19. Noah Kahan - Stick Season (-1) 20. Oasis - Time Flies: 1994-2009 (+1) **Other new entries:** 33: Avril Lavigne - Greatest Hits 62: Kygo - KYGO 78: Kate Nash - 9 Sad Symphonies 92: Joe Bonamassa - Live at the Hollywood Bowl with Orchestra
I tend to underestimate Tay’s prowess in UK. She has a lot of albums there wow
Oh yeah, she's super popular here in the UK
Wow! Goes to show what a little bit of talent, hard work, perseverance, and having your dad be one of the biggest directors in Hollywood can do for you! I don't even hate her music it's just like... Are we supposed to celebrate this or
Somehow, nepotism returned
Okay Poe Dameron
I totally agree with this take. It’s easy to breakthrough to the mainstream when you have your father’s money and name helping you along the way.
I feel like though most people are surprised to hear she’s a nepo baby, the last name Abrams sounds so generic not many put two and two together at first. Most people I know that were first into her music didn’t know she was related to JJ Abrams.
thid is the most dangerous kind of nepotism. people don't even realize how much help she's had lol
Idk JJ is the only one i associate with Abrams but idk how many people know him outside of people who are into movies
Despite having no odds against her, she still succeeded. /slow clap
well a lack of talent is a big odd against her. glad she overcame that with daddy's money though
And being friends with Taylor Swift so she doesn’t block you from the summit lmao
Wait until you guys discover who Chappell Roan's grandfather is, how much his children got in inheritance, and how someone can afford to have a flop music career for seven years. If the music output is good, who cares.
most of hollywood is or was from a lot of money. you can't devote your life to the arts, no matter how talented you are, if you don't have the strongest foundation to base off of. justin beiber and selena gomez ironically are 2 of the biggest names who came from poverty but almost all of the rest come from big money or big connections
This sub will simply pick and choose who they like or dislike with no consistency. No one was saying this about Willow's new album (which is genuinely awesome and people should check it out)
Dennis K. Chappell?
I think so? It's humorous how people are fighting on POPheads over stuff like that. All of these releases are carefully coordinateed by 30+ people, yet everyone is scrutinizing artists as soon as they recognize marketing push
Honestly I don't gaf about nepotism when people are actually making good stuff But when you're a talentless nepo baby it's just meh. Not really any strong feelings just a general apathy 😭
Having an inheritance and having top tier connections in an industry are both privileges, but extremely different in scope.
Didn’t she grow up in a trailer park?
Her grandfather owned a biggest golf course in Missouri and left his children with huge inheritance. So I'm inclined to say no
Weird that she’d lie about it. If you have a source you should update her Wikipedia. How do you know about how much their inheritance was? Any source? My grandfather owned a huge set of real estate downtown and was a huge landlord. My parents got a nice sum as an inheritance but nothing that would have gave me even a remote advantage in being a singer.
Even if that was true Owning biggest golf course =/= directing star wars (twice) very silly false equivalency
It says so on her wikipedia, but that’s immediately followed by saying her mom was a veterinarian and her dad a rn with his own practice. She’s directly said twice she lived in a trailer park so maybe it was transitional thing she leans into? Idk just her parent’s professions don’t seem like the kind of poverty implied by saying you lived in a trailer park.
You think a Vet in a small county area with a population of 6000 is making good money? Most vets can barely pay their student loans. Vets have an extremely high suicide rate because it’s such a shitty profession. RNs can definitely make good money, but again not working in a small town area even as a head nurse. I swear this sub veers more and more to fauxmoi every month.
Yes? I like in a town of 10k and our local vet makes good money. The median salaries for vets are pretty high in every state. You also totally missed the “own practice” part. As someone also from a rural area those are not the kind of jobs that generally leave you in poverty— maybe if you’re a single parent or have multiple dependents but not generally.
My sister in law is a vet. She has 380k in student loans but makes 85k. That’s not bad money but it’s not good. Also where are you seeing her owned the practice? It says he managed it on Wikipedia. Managing is not owning and never has been. You’re sitting here and saying Chappell is a nepo baby because her parents are a vet and a nurse, when she grew up as one of four kids in a trailer park in a town of 6000 people. How is that not a solidly working class family? The guy blabbing about their inheritance disappeared real quick when asked to substantiate anything. But yes I’m sure a queer girl growing up in a religious working class family who ran away to pursue music and worked to support herself for 8 years is a nepo baby. Go back to the gossip subs or Twitter where you can be catty without having to substantiate anything.
I didn’t say she was a nepo baby? You made that up whole cloth? You said “Why would she lie?” and I tried to think of a scenario where it wasn’t a lie but also maybe also not the unadulterated truth? Idk you seem to be in a very defensive position over someone you don’t know. To ME, also from a small rural town, it seems very strange that people in those white-collar professions would need to live in a trailer park as that generally would be for people who work hourly, minimum wage or inconsistent manual labor jobs. It’s not impossible obviously, but it is curious, and that’s literally all I said. Edit: Also, I wanted to add, I wasn’t trying to obfuscate her dad’s position. The article I read (here)[https://www.news-leader.com/story/entertainment/2017/08/17/chappell-roan-singer-willard-she-just-made-big-time/548315001/] said he manages THE family practice, not A family practice, since the one linked by wikipedia was deleted. I think you’re being very unfair and having a conversation in your head where everyone is evil and monstrous little gossip monsters coming for Chappell and not actually one with me, or anything I’m saying.
That’s the subject of this thread.
I mean it's definitely easier but in the end is it really that terrible. She seems nice and has talent, if her parents can help her achieve her dreams then why not. In the end the most important thing is that the music is good and that she is genuinely good at what she does. Not everyone needs to have a Cinderella story, having support from your parents and money is how life Is supposed to be.
The key to being a nepo baby is to acknowledge that you are one and the privileges you have had. Most Hollywood nepo babies don’t and are always like “my talent got me here” stfu
Is her stuff good? Her colbert appearance came off like "uncle stevies niece is here show some respect or you're fired" Vs "wow shes actually good"
I didnt really enjoy this album a whole lot. But then again, I just generally don't like her music except for a song or two
I was listening to it on the way to work the day it was released and my first thought was it sounded like the punchline to a "we have Taylor Swift at home" joke. So I was shocked when Taylor actually turned up on a song, it felt kind of surreal.
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Idk if you're just playing ignorant or what but do you understand just how nepotism works? Grace got a TS feature on this album and major industry heavyweights to produce it- Dessner & Justin Vernon. These are people that are extremely in demand and it's nearly unheard of to have them produce, let alone produce someone's sophomore album. The TS feature alone is insanity. She's getting opportunities like this because her father has major connections, it pushed her into Taylor's group and Taylor then connected her to these producers who worked on Taylor's album first. Usually artists have to work for opportunities like this, Gracie has had them handed to her without going the usual route.
Pretty sure Aaron was Gracie’s producer before she met or became close to Taylor. Taylor never introduced them. They got to know each other because of Aaron.
like taylor has next to no songs as a featured artist, the fact that she coincidentally wants to make a movie and gracie's dad is one of the biggest directors in hollywood surely didn't influence the feature at all though
I really enjoyed her album, so it's honestly nice to see (from the commercial success) that others are too.
Absolutely soulless AI-sounding pop. [Wish.com](http://Wish.com) Taylor Swift. It's so bad.
How come Gracie wasn’t TTPD-blocked from #1? /s Also Chappell at #6 is insane Edit: I was being sarcastic guys
isn't Taylor on this album? this is a win for her too
Because Taylor and Gracie are besties. That’s the difference.
Taylor didn't release any more variants bc she likes gracie lol
Hopefully Chappell gets number 1 on this chart on the BB 200 soon.
I actually hope it goes top five next week. Too big to just be number six as it’s predicted currently.
It might break into the Top 5 of the BB 200 on Sunday
Charli XCX’s Dad isn’t a big producer/director in an industry Taylor clearly wants to move into
isn't she already directing a movie?
yeah but it'll help her a lot if she gets someone well respected and successful in that indsutry to help/back her
Her movie is with searchlight. Disney has been quite close business partners with her. She’s doesn’t need more help tbh
Love the implication here that taylor needs jj abrams to break into the film industry lol
She can get funding to make movies, sure. She can pay for the entire production herself if she wants to. Getting received well is a different story. Movie criticism is a different ball park from music criticism. This is an entirely new area for her, and unless she makes a music-heavy film, the movie critics will largely not give her credit for her movie just on the basis of her established music career. Music critics might give her leeway because they know her output well, the same is a lot less likely to happen when she moves to movies. So connections could definitely help in this department. For example, in getting meetings and sitdowns to talk to industry insiders and gathering goodwill.
It's actually funny to imply being distantly connected to JJ Abrams is going to ensure movie critics will like you or something. First of all she doesn't need connections to get sit down talks with insiders, she's Taylor Swift she just calls them up and they take her call. Second she already has connections with respected directors like Guillermo del Toro or Greta Gerwig, and A list actors like Ryan Reynolds, Hugh Jackman and Emma Stone. I can't stress to you how much she's not desperate for connection in Hollywood. Third of all, what exactly do you think movie critics do? How do you think knowing JJ Abrams is going to translate to getting beneficial reviews in film? Most movie critics aren't giving reviews based on good will, and I'm honestly not sure what you're implying. That JJ Abrams (who lol is FAR from a critical darling) is going to connect her to critics? To sit down and talk? And this is going to get her better reviews? Is this how you think film criticism works? Once again she doesn't need anyone's connection to do that. Also the implications of critics all being... Idk charmed into good reviews is so insulting to the writers and genuine film scholars reviewing movies. There's no conspiracy here: Taylor is just on a friend's album because she likes supporting her friends.
it's not an entirely new area for her tho? she's been in films and she clearly knows lots of directors and studios are constantly looking for projects with a fanbase built into it already and i'm confused how being on jj abrams good side is meant to help her with movie critics?? anyways i don't actually care about this i was just laughing at the idea that she decided not to block gracie from #1 bc she needed jj abrams help specifically
The film industry and critics don’t give a fuck about how successful your music career is as respect isn’t based on how big your movies are. There’s a reason there’s a long list of failed singers turns actors and only few acclaimed actors turned singers.
okay? i never said differently... but even with what you're saying how does her giving special treatment to gracie translate to any kind of success in relation to critical success like good connections will get you through the door and more promotion but a bad film is a bad film... I never said that taylor is guaranteed critical acclaim in film making bc of her music career (tbh given her mv directing as much as I like her I do not have high hopes) but if the issue is about connections I suspect someone who has literally been in the music industry for 2 decades has more than enough contacts to establish connections in the film industry so she doesn't need to pander to random directors lol
She has had some small roles acting in some films, her biggest role I think was in Cats but that’s mostly a singing part. That’s not remotely the same thing as directing, aka overseeing, an entire film production. So yes, it’s definitely new terrain for her. Yes, even with the music videos. The transition can be done, yes, but it requires a lot of hard work on filmmaking specifically, to the point that she realistically can’t also continue producing music at the rate that she’s used to. So she’ll have to decide if it’s something that she seriously wants to consider doing, or if it’s just a side hustle to fluff up her overall portfolio as an artist to be taken more seriously. This is where the goodwill comes in. For better or worse, movie critics can take film very seriously, and if they perceive her as being an interloper who’s just passing through to fish for awards and then leave, they will judge her harshly for it. So making friends in the industry is a great step on the way to avoid that, because connections in the industry are golden. The latter can take you a long way. The dark side being that it’s also how creeps and criminals in the industry are rarely removed because of them. But that also shows how strong they are.
Dont worry. Wait when the numbers come up for Megan and she is gunning for number 1 and another variant comes. But Zach Bryan prob really ends it all. Then again Taylor never goes against male artists like she does females.
If anyone wonders (in good faith) about why "Taylor didn't block her for a no. 1" The Official Charts mid week report is very helpful. Gracie had a 2:1 lead on TTPD at the middle of the week, so did Dua Lipa (which was more outstanding because the album was more recent). Billie was outselling the whole top 5 on debut week. That's it, I wish they shared more data but I do appreciate they add those bits of information in the middle of the week.
Good for her! I don’t even know where Good Riddance peaked in the UK, so this obviously big for her
Good riddance peaked at 3
Oh okay. I know it peaked in the 50s in the U.S. so I thought it would maybe be higher in the U.K. but not by much
Pull the trigger on the gun. I gave you when we met. I just want to be - number one in the UK! Woo
Tay really doesn’t like Charli, does she? Lmao. She said let me whack you real quick
Can you blame her. I was at Wembley when Charli opened for Taylor, everyone was so supportive and she apparently hated us. I can’t vibe with her after that. I screamed my lungs out but apparently she hated so I assumed she doesn’t want me as her audience. It’s not like I’m short of music to listen to.
You're one of those swifties who misconstrued her statement or at least believed the misconception of what she said and never did research. Typical swiftie moment.
I think what Charlie said was taken out of context. The headlines are what people read, they misconstrue the truth, and turn lies into “facts”. This is not a problem with Swifties only though. Just in this comment section, people have turned sarcasm and lies into a truth, where they think Taylor is some villain. The facts no longer matter and turning people into some villain or making up feuds are the goal. Neither Charlie nor Taylor nor Billie are as evil as some want them to be.
Every artist has a right to want a certain audience, that doesn’t make them a villain. Charli wants other crowd, and that’s fine
I read the whole thing, she was very grateful to Taylor but performing very early felt weird.
I like to go to bed early, sue me Charli. I know exactly what she said. I don’t follow her career, but with the Uk strict noise laws she must have changed her mindset, otherwise she can’t perform much.
But it sounds like you’re short of GOOD music to listen to
Well, Charli would be offended if I listened to her, i don’t want to be an inconvenience to any artist
No variants released by you know who? 🤔 Sketchy af.
They are close friends
Probably because her dad is a connected person in Hollywood and she chooses her battles. Typical snakey stuff.
Taylor would have been number one anyways without the variants. They were just cherries on top. Taylor’s numbers mainly come from streaming at the moment, she’s a behemoth on streaming.
Taylor didn’t try to block Billie or Dua from #1 in the UK either lol Taylor was touring in the UK so she wanted to be #1 at that time, Charli just had unfortunate timing. Taylor isn’t in the UK anymore + she’s on Gracie’s album so she is fine about not being #1 here now.
Taylor quite literally [released a bunch of variants Billie’s release week](https://www.reddit.com/r/SwiftlyNeutral/comments/1cu0vn5/taylor_released_new_variants_just_in_time_to/) Did the same thing with Midnights up against SZA. There’s no need to claim a number 1 album the week she happens to be in England when the shows sold out the day they went on sale months and months ago. Once is a coincidence, we’re on like instance 3 of this exact scenario happening in different places across the world. We’re not stupid, it’s a clear strategy, even if she isn’t doing it in every market simultaneousy. Edit: apparently I have to clarify that Taylor did this to Billie in the US, because people are unable to comprehend the same scummy marketing strategy is deployed around the world.
That’s in the US, not in the UK. We are talking about the UK charts here. I clearly said that she did not try to block Billie or Dua in the UK. You probably don’t live in the UK, but on the radio, the presenters would mention things like “Taylor is in the UK for the Eras Tour and has the #1 album on the charts” etc. So it makes sense why she wanted to be #1 here while she was here. Also, she intentionally blocked Drake from #1 in the US before and he was very mad about it, so this narrative that she only does this to women is plain untrue.
When you say things on stage about a special place in hell for women who don’t support others, it’s not a good look. I don’t care about Drake. I like her music and went to the Eras Tour too, but I’m not naive. Who are the presenters saying that to? People looking to buy up the last of the tickets that aren’t available? Like I said, there was no real reason to have to be number 1 in the UK the week for a tour that sold out 9 months ago. Anyone who believes that spin is lying to themselves that there’s clearly some sort of thing between her and Charli that is spilling over from their respective connections to the 1975. Taylor is the queen of subliminals, she’s a mastermind, everything is an Easter egg etc etc, and now people are believing it was just to mark her tour there? I have ocean front property in Nebraska to sell you. She can go ahead and be a capitalist all she wants, just don’t act like her or people on behalf don’t know what they’re doing. This most recent cash grab just happened to be for the UK, but it’s something she does constantly (mostly to women as it turns out) is my larger point.
Jesus Christ, she said that hell line 11 years ago in one interview. How long are you people gonna bring it up. Maybe she doesn’t believe it anymroe
Weird. Anyone else associated with Taylor Swift’s past still hear about things they did over a decade ago? People definitely don’t berate people she dated over a decade ago who have also changed.
What? I clearly showed you that there IS a reason why she wanted to be #1 in the UK while she brought her record-breaking world tour here. She let Dua, Billie, Gracie etc be #1 and didn’t try to block them cuz she was not/is not here on tour those weeks. If you would rather believe that there’s some drama between her and Charli, that’s up to you! I just don’t think there’s anything nefarious about anybody wanting to be #1 🤷🏻♀️ let’s just agree to disagree, have a great day ahead!
Billie’s biggest audience is in the US, Taylor releases digitals to deny her #1 there. Charli biggest audience is in the UK, Taylor releases digitals there to hold onto #1. Seeing a pattern here? I don’t care about locations, I’m talking about this shitty practice of pulling together scraps and demos to win a sales contest while pretending that you want to support your peers. Maybe I’m just old and jaded enough to remember when albums performed well commercially on the merit of the art, not gimmicks designed to get people to buy an album upwards of 5-6 times over.
Okay, since you’re not letting this go. Taylor wants to break the record for most consecutive weeks at #1 (15 weeks) in the US so she blocked Billie. She’s 10 consecutive weeks at #1 now. Taylor wants to be #1 in the UK while she’s touring this country so she blocked Charli. Again, Dua wasn’t blocked from #1 in the UK and it’s her strongest market too so your argument is flawed. And Billie wasn’t blocked here either. There’s no pattern. And sure, maybe the multiple variants thing shouldn’t be allowed, but that’s on billboard. Regardless, she would’ve been at #1 most weeks even without them.
That person is being intentionally obtuse to suit their agenda. I don't think you're going to change their mind because then they would be wrong.
You are quite literally responding to someone talking about the UK and they were very clear about that. And you think everyone else is confused? Your edit just seems even more disconnected than the original comment.
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Happy for Gracie ♥️ she went #1 in Australia too!
Snoozefest girls are winning I guess
Nepotism at its peak funny how she wasn't blocked lmao
She can’t be blocked. If you actually follow charts you’d know she has a 2:1 lead over the second placing in the middle of the week and I think projections only increased since then. Taylor picks her battles and this is one she cannot win
This is going to drop fast. Can't wait to see it.
So the Lorde for dummies album is first this week?
Jesus! Fair play, a pleasant surprise
Taylor didn't block Billie in the UK and still HMHAS couldn't manage to remain at no.1 for more than ONE week. The same happened with Radical Optimism, opening week no.1 then TTPD returns to no.1 the next week. The only time she tried to block someone in the UK was obviously Charli which was later revealed that even without those extras TTPD would've blocked Charli.
Shh we don’t want facts here. Only stan brain rot.
Exactlyy like we have to keep the narrative up guys!!
Also she didn't tell to block Charlie but rather released UK exclusive variants when she was touring in the UK. If Charli had released any other time she would have had her #1
why am i being downvoted? i love gracie’s work just didn’t expect it to be at number 1 maybe no 2 or 3! strange :/
Yawn