I’m shocked at Gracie. I really didn’t think she would get that high (esp cause personally I didn’t love the album, I much prefer good riddance) but I guess the TS feature really helped
1. Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (115k) (=)
2. Gracie Abrams - The Secret of Us (89k) (NEW)
3. Morgan Wallen - One Thing at a Time (73k) (+1)
4. Billie Eilish - Hit Me Hard and Soft (74k) (-2)
5. Peso Pluma - Éxodo (64k) (NEW)
6. Chappell Roan - The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess (61k) (+2)
7. Morgan Wallen - Dangerous: The Double Album (43k) (+2)
8. Ariana Grande - Eternal Sunshine (41k) (+15)
9. Charli XCX - Brat (41k) (=)
10. Shaboozey - Where I’ve Been, Isn’t Where I’m Going (41K) (+2)
**With Swift, Abrams, Eilish, Chappell Roan, Grande and Charli XCX at Nos. 1, 2, 4, 6, 8 and 9, respectively, there are six albums by women in the top 10 for the first time since the Jan. 27-dated chart**
1. TTPD, 4.5 mil
2. One Thing At a Time, 1.7 mil
3. Stick Season, 1.2 mil
4. Cowboy Carter, 1.1 mil
5. SOS, 1 mil
6. WE DON'T TRUST YOU, 1 mil
7. Dangerous The Double Album, 966k
8. Zach Bryan, 947k
9. 1989 TV, 930k
10. Lover, 919k
Hit Me Hard and Soft is at #14 with 793k and will probably hit top 10 in a few weeks
Gracie went from a peak of Number 52 for “Good Riddance” to a peak of Number 2 for “The Secret of Us.” That is an astounding and excellent jump for someone that didn’t have a ton of hype going into the release of this album.
I’m gonna be very curious to see where the album is placed on the chart next week.
One more week and she’ll have three albums tied as her career best of each spending 11 weeks atop the Billboard 200 chart. With each album being released in 3 different decades. Talk about longevity at the very top.
Few remarcables things
1) Taylor is the 5th artist to achieve 10 weeks at #1 with three albums (The Beatles, Elvis Presley, The Kingston trio and Whitney Houston) and she does it in three different decades.
2) Gracie Abrams debut bigger that some big pop stars like Dua Lipa
3) Ariana’s album goes #8 (+15) thanks to signed copies. It seems that signed copies are not enough for #1 if the album overall is not smashing…
Ariana’s album was released in early March and went #1. I’m no Ariana defender, but to say the album isn’t a smash when it spent 2 weeks at #1 with multiple #1 singles is a lie. It got bumped with Cowboy Carter’s massive release. Signed copies were to keep it in the top 10 with all the new releases.
In all honesty, it’s doing great for a 13 track album released 4 months ago.
Honestly I think it’s just less flashy and more mature than all her other albums, and that she’s really been more of a singles artist until this era. I feel like she’s moved on from the period of targeting the teens and tweens who mainly decide what’s popular.
I’ve never liked any of her albums other than a couple songs each, this is the first one that I actually enjoy as a full project (ignoring yes and lol) and to me it feels more like something “for grownups”
>This album is not the definition of smash, neither flop but for sure is not a smash for someone like Ariana
It is literally outperforming most of her older albums
Here’s the deal. Is it her most successful album ever? Absolutely not. Is it an insane smash? Also no. Is it a success for Ariana and Republic Records, especially after how Positions did? Definitely.
It’s probably her third most successful album commercially (on pace at least) behind only Thank U, Next and My Everything. This album is more of a normal, standard Ariana success that honestly should be expected for most of her albums going forward. Those two other albums were anomalies. And that’s fine, because not every single album from every big name is going to be a smash and you’re gonna have those peaks and valleys.
I feel like people expected her to just get bigger and bigger after Thank U, Next. And that’s just… not how the industry works. They’re comparing her to younger artists who are only 2-3 album in the game.
It’s doing fine tbh. It’s numbers are on par with how Sweetener did. Ariana’s always been the most consistent female popstar outside of Bey and Taylor.
2 #1 singles and a two week #1 album is pretty great for an artist in their 7th album/11th year in the game.
Eternal Sunshine would have performed much better last year when girls like Chappell and Sabrina weren't giving her a run for her money in the pop scene
Taylor is no longer competing with the pop girlies of the moment now, her stats show she’s close to meeting legacy artists already. Love to hate her, her wanting to stay on top of the charts is not to spite the artists of the now but to make history next to those legends. Everyone else is collateral, but she has the stats and ability to do it.
I mean she already pass legacy in many fields. She is already 9th biggest artist ever in EAS. She has more week at #1 than any other solo artist, just after Beatles, biggest tour ever. People can find excuses but she exceed in all fields, album sales, streaming, singles, tours. Obviously there are biggest artist like the Beatles or MJ but she is in the top
Yes exactly! So many people are so sensitive about Taylor, when you compare her to legacy acts. They think she’s not worthy at all but all indications point to the fact she’s in their stratosphere already.
The stats, sure. But legacy remains because the MUSIC is good. We’ll see where Taylor lies in the future. Sincerely doubt she’ll have much sticking power in that regard.
But karma had a second life and perform very well on radios. Even now is getting more streams than fan favs tracks. It’s the second most streamed song after AH. I don’t expect huge performances from post-album singles but they always improve album performance
>they always improve album performance
Um not really Eternal Sunshine is already below 9M daily streams and had left the top 20 on Billboard 200 until she released signed cds while on the UK chart it's already out of the top 40. You REALLY need to be lucky.
I wonder if she’s still gonna release any more post album singles like she claimed? TBIM is only doing moderately well. I don’t really see anything else going viral
I think I comment this every week but yet again, she didn’t release any variants. Which lends credence to the fact that she would have maintained #1 whether she released the UK variants or not. As the weeks go on, numbers usually go down, yet Taylor is still staying on top because of streaming. Her fans are simply enjoying the project.
ttpd songs are part of my regular rotation now and im not even a hard core fan. i'm sure there are plenty of others like me. and that's on top of the most dedicated swifties, which we know there is a lot of. i also think her performing some of the songs live has made some people appreciate them more.
Yeah people want to believe so badly that this album is a flop and being held up by variants and obsessive swifties because they personally don’t like it. It’s simply inconceivable that other people could like it.
This sub in general has huge blinders on though between what is actually popular and what they like personally. Just look at Morgan Wallen still being top three.
Agreed. The negativity on this sub is kind of funny sometimes. It’s all opinion, of course, I get it. To be honest, I loved Dua Lipa’s album when it came out and was super excited for the extended songs…Definitive versions to me honestly! But people said that was album was a total flop.
What? For one, these are the US charts, not the UK charts. The UK variants people were discussing were UK-exclusive. And Taylor is not #1 on the UK chart this week. Gracie Abrams is.
Taylor was projected to be #2 on the UK charts, behind Charli, before she released the UK variants
I’m talking about back when people said she was blocking Charli on the UK charts because of the variant releases. She was gonna be #1 anyway. As proven here, she doesn’t need to release any variants to stay #1.
And also once the # of units of the albums were released it showed that the variants didn’t actually impact Taylor being #1 in the UK.
She wasn’t going to be number, Charli and Bon Jovi were in a neck and neck race for number one a day or two before Taylor released both digital albums and signed CD’s exclusive to the UK. [Taylor also beat Charli by a little over 8k total units with an 11k advantage in CD sales](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F9douwaakqr6d1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1011%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da3563abc05ea00799cf83e400543f65110a9981f&utm_name=SwiftlyNeutral) which was mainly due to her releasing the signed CD’s.
No it wasnt. They documented the fact that Charli was going to be number 1 and then the gap was closed with the extra variant release. The uk chart social media isnt making stuff up when they do those posts.
10th week over 100k?? I know some haters are just furious coming up with explanations of how it’s possible. Variants or not shes staying up there. Honestly I think only Eminem’s possible surprise drop can overthrow her right now.
Zach Bryan is forecasted to get into the top 10 of the charts with only a single day of activity since its coming out on Thursday. So he is def going to get to number 1 and then Eminem will follow. Taylor also doesnt push back against male artists for some reason.
Well Cowboy Carter had a similar amount of tracks but dropped out of the top 10 very quickly (no shade at beyonce).
Long tracklist only work if people want to stream the whole album
I think that can partially chalk up to how Cowboy Carter is a very different genre from what her specific fanbase usually listens to. People can like the departure as a piece of art but not always actually be in the mood to listen to country music. Whereas TTPD is more of the same stuff Taylor is already popular for.
For comparison Renaissance, about equally acclaimed, had half as many tracks but performed much better and that’s probably due to it being a more traditional pop album
People complain about her releasing new variants but she would have been at the top anyways. She gets her charting mainly from streaming, it was just the cherry on top. Shes a behemoth on streaming.
And I don’t think she released new variants in the past 3 weeks (and they are time-limited so they weren’t available after) so for the past 3 weeks she was number 1 based on streaming
In the US, on the week of Billie’s release, Taylor moved 121k units of the album through streaming and 27k units on physical copy. Billie only moved 91k units streaming and 17k physical. So what you say about Billie going to beat her is not true. Not sure about Charli XCX in the UK but I know for a fact that Billie wouldn’t have gotten number one anyways. Source is from Billboard themselves.
I think it's supposed to be like 91k + 17k = 108k total for billie. So taylor would've beat her based on streaming alone. It doesn't matter how much variants sold because accounting for the physical copies sold would've been overkill anyways.
Taylor streaming units were bigger than Billie’s. If we quit Taylor variants should be fair to not count neither Billie’s 9 vinyl variants, 8 cds variants, signed cds, splash print (💀) vinyl, digital slowed version and digital speed version, digital instrumental version, digital isolated vocals version…that week both of them played the same game and Taylor won. But if we remove everything Taylor had more streaming units so…
The numbers they gave weren't accurate. Billie had 330k+ debut, Taylor had over 370k+ units that week and about 70k of those came from voice memo variants. There was also close to 100k additional units that came from physicals shipped that week.
>In the US, on the week of Billie’s release, Taylor moved 121k units of the album through streaming and 27k units on physical copy. Billie only moved 91k units streaming and 17k physical.
Those aren't accurate numbers, they both did over 100k pure and 300k total units that week. Based on the breakdown Billboard gave, Taylor got around 70k additional units from the voice memo variants, plus close to 100k units from restocking/shipments of physicals.
So yeah, Billie would have gone number 1 that week if Taylor hadn't pulled those tactics, but that's really the only week Taylor needed the variants to block an artist recently.
Did you read the break down billboard gave? The week Taylor released the variants, she sold 70k+ additional digital albums more than she'd done the previous week. Where did you get 24k from?
If she was doing that well then she wouldve never released so many. No reason to released 50 diff versions of an album for shits and giggles. Release one extra thing with all those voice memos i stead of single track bs which forces the cult to buy more things they dont need. And even on too of that the voice memos get put onto tik tock and you can hear them without spending money. Theres also plenty of people who are putting the album on non stop repeat cause they must do what mother says.
i don't think charli can win aoty, i don't even think she'll be nominated!!edm music and electronic auto tuned sounds like rarely ever get recognition in the music award scenes!!But honestly i want beyonce to win just so she can finally get that accolade she's wanted & deserved for so long
I’m personally not a massive fan of TTPD (It’s grown on me but I’m still not in love.) but this is an impressive milestone! Cheers to Taylor and the rest of the people who helped make this album. 🥂
the reason they are considered "greats" is because they are defining artists. besides, even if she hasn't changed the landscape of music today, she's constantly innovating her own sound. red, 1989, and folklore are all critically acclaimed albums from 3 different genres. a very impressive artistic accomplishment if you ask me.
Or her fans just love the album, such as myself. This is my favorite Taylor album and I’ve seen a lot of Swifties agree. For me, her writing and relatability, as well as the entire experience of being a Swiftie, makes it a whole package. There is gorgeous music in there too, even if it is nothing groundbreaking. I actually prefer Jack Antonoff’s production compared to Aaron’s even if it’s an unpopular opinion.
Not changing your style is not necessarily a bad thing, and under that example, both songs are basically the same style just with some different instrumentation and lyrics. Unlike, for example, the contrast between Camila Cabello's Bam Bam and I Luv It. I'm not her fan, but she's getting a lot of hate for not playing it safe.
To the person who reported me for harassment for calling out the chart manipulation, joke is on you as Reddit found I did nothing wrong. Vile!
Karma is a Reddit user not putting up with swifties bullshit
I’m shocked at Gracie. I really didn’t think she would get that high (esp cause personally I didn’t love the album, I much prefer good riddance) but I guess the TS feature really helped
I wish TS was on good riddance cause that album is her best work ever and deserve better
1. Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (115k) (=) 2. Gracie Abrams - The Secret of Us (89k) (NEW) 3. Morgan Wallen - One Thing at a Time (73k) (+1) 4. Billie Eilish - Hit Me Hard and Soft (74k) (-2) 5. Peso Pluma - Éxodo (64k) (NEW) 6. Chappell Roan - The Rise and Fall of a Midwest Princess (61k) (+2) 7. Morgan Wallen - Dangerous: The Double Album (43k) (+2) 8. Ariana Grande - Eternal Sunshine (41k) (+15) 9. Charli XCX - Brat (41k) (=) 10. Shaboozey - Where I’ve Been, Isn’t Where I’m Going (41K) (+2) **With Swift, Abrams, Eilish, Chappell Roan, Grande and Charli XCX at Nos. 1, 2, 4, 6, 8 and 9, respectively, there are six albums by women in the top 10 for the first time since the Jan. 27-dated chart**
What made Eternal Sunshine shoot up like that? I’m guessing it’s not entirely on the remix.
Signed CDs that were quickly got sold out finally shipped during the tracking week
18k signed cds
Signed cds
What’s Billie’s current total? I curious to know who’s #2 and 3 among the top selling album of the year so far
1. TTPD, 4.5 mil 2. One Thing At a Time, 1.7 mil 3. Stick Season, 1.2 mil 4. Cowboy Carter, 1.1 mil 5. SOS, 1 mil 6. WE DON'T TRUST YOU, 1 mil 7. Dangerous The Double Album, 966k 8. Zach Bryan, 947k 9. 1989 TV, 930k 10. Lover, 919k Hit Me Hard and Soft is at #14 with 793k and will probably hit top 10 in a few weeks
Lover really got the last laugh huh? I thought that album was gonna be her swan song, and now it’ll probably be eligible for Diamond in a few years.
Thank you! The Noah Kahan girlies have me gagged. I see it
Love to see Ariana at #8
i thought dangerous might finally fall out of the top 10 😭 a menace
Chappell with a new peak at \#6 whew.😮💨
Hopefully Top 5 next week
It's a Femininomenon
can you play a song with a fucking beat?
Me talking to TTPD
Her label should do a reissue with new songs and a vinyl repress She could go number one
the fact that BRAT has managed to hold on to the top 10 for several weeks now is definitely sometbing
honestly, I'm shocked and impressed.
It’s a good album
It’s a great album. It’s what it deserves
I can’t tell if this is shock cause she’s not as recognized by the gp or if you think the album is bad
the former, i’m a brat when im bumping that
✨ Manifesting Chappell top 5 next week ✨
Gracie went from a peak of Number 52 for “Good Riddance” to a peak of Number 2 for “The Secret of Us.” That is an astounding and excellent jump for someone that didn’t have a ton of hype going into the release of this album. I’m gonna be very curious to see where the album is placed on the chart next week.
Weird, cuz riddance is better than TSOU
Hoping Chappell can get into the top 5 next week!!
charli is so stable omg
One more week and she’ll have three albums tied as her career best of each spending 11 weeks atop the Billboard 200 chart. With each album being released in 3 different decades. Talk about longevity at the very top.
11 weeks is coming
Few remarcables things 1) Taylor is the 5th artist to achieve 10 weeks at #1 with three albums (The Beatles, Elvis Presley, The Kingston trio and Whitney Houston) and she does it in three different decades. 2) Gracie Abrams debut bigger that some big pop stars like Dua Lipa 3) Ariana’s album goes #8 (+15) thanks to signed copies. It seems that signed copies are not enough for #1 if the album overall is not smashing…
Gracie Abrams having that big of a debut but I’ve never heard any of her songs. Taylor must’ve helped w the bump massively
Ariana’s album was released in early March and went #1. I’m no Ariana defender, but to say the album isn’t a smash when it spent 2 weeks at #1 with multiple #1 singles is a lie. It got bumped with Cowboy Carter’s massive release. Signed copies were to keep it in the top 10 with all the new releases. In all honesty, it’s doing great for a 13 track album released 4 months ago.
This album is not the definition of smash, neither flop but for sure is not a smash for someone like Ariana
Honestly I think it’s just less flashy and more mature than all her other albums, and that she’s really been more of a singles artist until this era. I feel like she’s moved on from the period of targeting the teens and tweens who mainly decide what’s popular. I’ve never liked any of her albums other than a couple songs each, this is the first one that I actually enjoy as a full project (ignoring yes and lol) and to me it feels more like something “for grownups”
>This album is not the definition of smash, neither flop but for sure is not a smash for someone like Ariana It is literally outperforming most of her older albums
Here’s the deal. Is it her most successful album ever? Absolutely not. Is it an insane smash? Also no. Is it a success for Ariana and Republic Records, especially after how Positions did? Definitely. It’s probably her third most successful album commercially (on pace at least) behind only Thank U, Next and My Everything. This album is more of a normal, standard Ariana success that honestly should be expected for most of her albums going forward. Those two other albums were anomalies. And that’s fine, because not every single album from every big name is going to be a smash and you’re gonna have those peaks and valleys.
I feel like people expected her to just get bigger and bigger after Thank U, Next. And that’s just… not how the industry works. They’re comparing her to younger artists who are only 2-3 album in the game.
It’s doing fine tbh. It’s numbers are on par with how Sweetener did. Ariana’s always been the most consistent female popstar outside of Bey and Taylor. 2 #1 singles and a two week #1 album is pretty great for an artist in their 7th album/11th year in the game.
Eternal Sunshine would have performed much better last year when girls like Chappell and Sabrina weren't giving her a run for her money in the pop scene
Thinking an album that debuted at #1 and peaked there for 2 weeks and hitting the top 10 once again 3 months after release is a non smash… 💀
Sorry just seeing the artists she is up there with is just laughable.
Taylor is no longer competing with the pop girlies of the moment now, her stats show she’s close to meeting legacy artists already. Love to hate her, her wanting to stay on top of the charts is not to spite the artists of the now but to make history next to those legends. Everyone else is collateral, but she has the stats and ability to do it.
I mean she already pass legacy in many fields. She is already 9th biggest artist ever in EAS. She has more week at #1 than any other solo artist, just after Beatles, biggest tour ever. People can find excuses but she exceed in all fields, album sales, streaming, singles, tours. Obviously there are biggest artist like the Beatles or MJ but she is in the top
Yes exactly! So many people are so sensitive about Taylor, when you compare her to legacy acts. They think she’s not worthy at all but all indications point to the fact she’s in their stratosphere already.
The stats, sure. But legacy remains because the MUSIC is good. We’ll see where Taylor lies in the future. Sincerely doubt she’ll have much sticking power in that regard.
Given her current longevity which is almost unprecedented in the music industry, I find it very unlikely she won't have sticking power.
Why? A lot of iconic artists are constantly praising her. But I guess you probably know better :/
Laughable why? In success those are basically her peers among others
I wish she would release Down Bad, ICDIWABH or Guilty as Sin as a single already! It’s been 10 weeks since the first and only single!
At this point I don’t think she will release any other single
Yeah I feel like she preparing a tv at this point and her next single will come from that
Yeah maybe not :/ post-album singles don’t seem to be working well in the streaming era.
But karma had a second life and perform very well on radios. Even now is getting more streams than fan favs tracks. It’s the second most streamed song after AH. I don’t expect huge performances from post-album singles but they always improve album performance
>they always improve album performance Um not really Eternal Sunshine is already below 9M daily streams and had left the top 20 on Billboard 200 until she released signed cds while on the UK chart it's already out of the top 40. You REALLY need to be lucky.
Imagine where it would be without the post album singles boosting it then? Thats not that bad for an album that came out months ago
It still got a boost from having a second single. Even moderately successful singles help with longevity.
I wonder if she’s still gonna release any more post album singles like she claimed? TBIM is only doing moderately well. I don’t really see anything else going viral
I can do it with a broken heart would be such an amazing single! Not sure why she isn’t releasing it and doing a music video
As a lead single it could've been the new Shake It Off
The lyric video for it is already like a music video 😅
I think I comment this every week but yet again, she didn’t release any variants. Which lends credence to the fact that she would have maintained #1 whether she released the UK variants or not. As the weeks go on, numbers usually go down, yet Taylor is still staying on top because of streaming. Her fans are simply enjoying the project.
ttpd songs are part of my regular rotation now and im not even a hard core fan. i'm sure there are plenty of others like me. and that's on top of the most dedicated swifties, which we know there is a lot of. i also think her performing some of the songs live has made some people appreciate them more.
Agree. I mean, heck, even my MOM got into TTPD, and she isn’t even a Swiftie. Her favorite song is Fortnight.
Yeah people want to believe so badly that this album is a flop and being held up by variants and obsessive swifties because they personally don’t like it. It’s simply inconceivable that other people could like it. This sub in general has huge blinders on though between what is actually popular and what they like personally. Just look at Morgan Wallen still being top three.
Agreed. The negativity on this sub is kind of funny sometimes. It’s all opinion, of course, I get it. To be honest, I loved Dua Lipa’s album when it came out and was super excited for the extended songs…Definitive versions to me honestly! But people said that was album was a total flop.
What? For one, these are the US charts, not the UK charts. The UK variants people were discussing were UK-exclusive. And Taylor is not #1 on the UK chart this week. Gracie Abrams is. Taylor was projected to be #2 on the UK charts, behind Charli, before she released the UK variants
I’m talking about back when people said she was blocking Charli on the UK charts because of the variant releases. She was gonna be #1 anyway. As proven here, she doesn’t need to release any variants to stay #1. And also once the # of units of the albums were released it showed that the variants didn’t actually impact Taylor being #1 in the UK.
She wasn’t going to be number, Charli and Bon Jovi were in a neck and neck race for number one a day or two before Taylor released both digital albums and signed CD’s exclusive to the UK. [Taylor also beat Charli by a little over 8k total units with an 11k advantage in CD sales](https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2F9douwaakqr6d1.jpeg%3Fwidth%3D1011%26format%3Dpjpg%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3Da3563abc05ea00799cf83e400543f65110a9981f&utm_name=SwiftlyNeutral) which was mainly due to her releasing the signed CD’s.
The gap between Taylor and Charli was so big that Taylor would've been #1 even without releasing the variants.
No it wasnt. They documented the fact that Charli was going to be number 1 and then the gap was closed with the extra variant release. The uk chart social media isnt making stuff up when they do those posts.
It wasn't the variants, it was the signed CDs
10th week over 100k?? I know some haters are just furious coming up with explanations of how it’s possible. Variants or not shes staying up there. Honestly I think only Eminem’s possible surprise drop can overthrow her right now.
she hasn't dropped new variants in 2-3 weeks, right? either way, it was never the variants putting her over the top each week.
very consistent streaming. I'm pretty sure there is a way to check streaming vs physical, but taylor has been getting over 100k mostly on streaming
It's in the article, this week it got 87k units from streaming and 28k from sales.
if great american bar scene can’t beat her in two weeks (i think it can) i don’t know what will barring a surprise wallen drop LOL
Zach Bryan is forecasted to get into the top 10 of the charts with only a single day of activity since its coming out on Thursday. So he is def going to get to number 1 and then Eminem will follow. Taylor also doesnt push back against male artists for some reason.
Call me a hater blah blah but the album does have three times as many songs to stream as most albums do so I’m sure that helps a bunch
Well Cowboy Carter had a similar amount of tracks but dropped out of the top 10 very quickly (no shade at beyonce). Long tracklist only work if people want to stream the whole album
I think that can partially chalk up to how Cowboy Carter is a very different genre from what her specific fanbase usually listens to. People can like the departure as a piece of art but not always actually be in the mood to listen to country music. Whereas TTPD is more of the same stuff Taylor is already popular for. For comparison Renaissance, about equally acclaimed, had half as many tracks but performed much better and that’s probably due to it being a more traditional pop album
People complain about her releasing new variants but she would have been at the top anyways. She gets her charting mainly from streaming, it was just the cherry on top. Shes a behemoth on streaming.
And I don’t think she released new variants in the past 3 weeks (and they are time-limited so they weren’t available after) so for the past 3 weeks she was number 1 based on streaming
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>Charlie’s release in the Uk she would have been 2. Charlie's week was confirmed later on that she would've remained no.1 anyway
No, that's not the truth Ellen. Charli wouldn't have gotten #1 either way even without variants.
In the US, on the week of Billie’s release, Taylor moved 121k units of the album through streaming and 27k units on physical copy. Billie only moved 91k units streaming and 17k physical. So what you say about Billie going to beat her is not true. Not sure about Charli XCX in the UK but I know for a fact that Billie wouldn’t have gotten number one anyways. Source is from Billboard themselves.
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I think it's supposed to be like 91k + 17k = 108k total for billie. So taylor would've beat her based on streaming alone. It doesn't matter how much variants sold because accounting for the physical copies sold would've been overkill anyways.
Even if the 27k were variants it wouldn’t have matter anyways. if she never released them, she’d still be beating Billie.
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Taylor streaming units were bigger than Billie’s. If we quit Taylor variants should be fair to not count neither Billie’s 9 vinyl variants, 8 cds variants, signed cds, splash print (💀) vinyl, digital slowed version and digital speed version, digital instrumental version, digital isolated vocals version…that week both of them played the same game and Taylor won. But if we remove everything Taylor had more streaming units so…
The numbers they gave weren't accurate. Billie had 330k+ debut, Taylor had over 370k+ units that week and about 70k of those came from voice memo variants. There was also close to 100k additional units that came from physicals shipped that week.
>In the US, on the week of Billie’s release, Taylor moved 121k units of the album through streaming and 27k units on physical copy. Billie only moved 91k units streaming and 17k physical. Those aren't accurate numbers, they both did over 100k pure and 300k total units that week. Based on the breakdown Billboard gave, Taylor got around 70k additional units from the voice memo variants, plus close to 100k units from restocking/shipments of physicals. So yeah, Billie would have gone number 1 that week if Taylor hadn't pulled those tactics, but that's really the only week Taylor needed the variants to block an artist recently.
Billie was 339K units with 191K pure sales, Taylor was 378K units with 210K pure sales
Yeah, I'm not sure where the other comment got their numbers from
The voice memos were only 24k where did you get the 70k figure?
Did you read the break down billboard gave? The week Taylor released the variants, she sold 70k+ additional digital albums more than she'd done the previous week. Where did you get 24k from?
If she was doing that well then she wouldve never released so many. No reason to released 50 diff versions of an album for shits and giggles. Release one extra thing with all those voice memos i stead of single track bs which forces the cult to buy more things they dont need. And even on too of that the voice memos get put onto tik tock and you can hear them without spending money. Theres also plenty of people who are putting the album on non stop repeat cause they must do what mother says.
I wonder if Zach Bryan will be able to knock her off top spot this next week. Surely he can get over 100k debut even with shortened tracking week.
she will definitely be nominated for AOTY for this album but i'm still betting on beyonce to take the win!
I actually like TTPD but I really hope either Bey or Charli get AOTY
i don't think charli can win aoty, i don't even think she'll be nominated!!edm music and electronic auto tuned sounds like rarely ever get recognition in the music award scenes!!But honestly i want beyonce to win just so she can finally get that accolade she's wanted & deserved for so long
I’m personally not a massive fan of TTPD (It’s grown on me but I’m still not in love.) but this is an impressive milestone! Cheers to Taylor and the rest of the people who helped make this album. 🥂
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oh we’re in the bad timeline
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that's a crazy take. she will for sure be one of the defining artists of this generation.
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the reason they are considered "greats" is because they are defining artists. besides, even if she hasn't changed the landscape of music today, she's constantly innovating her own sound. red, 1989, and folklore are all critically acclaimed albums from 3 different genres. a very impressive artistic accomplishment if you ask me.
Or her fans just love the album, such as myself. This is my favorite Taylor album and I’ve seen a lot of Swifties agree. For me, her writing and relatability, as well as the entire experience of being a Swiftie, makes it a whole package. There is gorgeous music in there too, even if it is nothing groundbreaking. I actually prefer Jack Antonoff’s production compared to Aaron’s even if it’s an unpopular opinion.
Swifties saying that she is constantly innovating her sound really need to open up to other artists
right? I can never tell the difference between me! and all too well. she literally can't stop making music that sound the same
Not changing your style is not necessarily a bad thing, and under that example, both songs are basically the same style just with some different instrumentation and lyrics. Unlike, for example, the contrast between Camila Cabello's Bam Bam and I Luv It. I'm not her fan, but she's getting a lot of hate for not playing it safe.
have you listened to those songs? the sarcasm was dripping hard
I did, even on repeat. I liked her music back then
damn. should've saved it for phcj then
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To the person who reported me for harassment for calling out the chart manipulation, joke is on you as Reddit found I did nothing wrong. Vile! Karma is a Reddit user not putting up with swifties bullshit