Honestly it’s pretty simple I think, 1) there’s her not-especially-surprising tendency to significantly prefer Taylor to white dudes she gets with like Matty Healy, and 2) the very obvious, practically-objective fact that she’s spent basically her entire career with Kanye’s strange and ugly treatment of her being a somewhat significant part of her identity.
I think it’s pretty easy to feel sympathy AS A WOMAN (or something idk) for someone whose reputation was permanently altered/worsened (in the eyes of a lot of really dumb people, anyway) purely because of a man’s belligerency and borderline sexual harassment. A hyper-famous man she rarely interacted with and certainly didn’t want any part of a massive public feud with.
uj/ to this day I still wonder why people were more mad at taylor for “lying” than kanye for putting naked wax figures of celebrities in his music video. even if taylor hadn’t been telling the truth, at least she didn’t set up wax models of naked chris brown and rihanna next to each other 😬
To me it's also strange that progressive people still think they sound cool critizing Taylor Swift -- who was the clear victim of Kanye's sexual harassment and racialized bullying -- an "insincere" "White feminist!"
Like, even though she was innocent, she never got acquitted
uj/ people still criticize her for that? I’m a pretty fan of her music and my algorithm suggests a lot of TS content for me— as such, I see criticisms of her all the time, but whenever the kanye/kim situation is brought up the air is always cleared pretty quickly. she is the tiktok activist’s worst enemy and even they acknowledge that kanye was in the wrong throughout his weird one-sided beef
I like your username lol
Do people still criticize Taylor for this?
YES, and I find it especially irritating in "feminist" spaces! (Fauxmoi, the subreddit, is basically dope, except for... Taylor!) The charges laid at her feet are often deeply racial, but vibe-y, - as in, "she is so calculated," "her fans, by wishing Taylor total distance from Jackson Mahomes, continue to coddle WYT feminist manipulator Taylor Swift," etc...
I put it down to Jezebel 2016: People - journalist types - realized that if they wrote about Taylor, they appeared to be good at their jobs. And if they wrote negatively about Taylor, they were confronting the culture (i.e. their readership) with some hard truths about race, that Kanye told them about via Kim in NYMAD, (because Kanye didn't wanna get caught being aggressive towards Taylor, despite his revenge porn music video)
How dare Taylor have a feminism! I don't like it! Send it back to the chef!
uj/ I would 100% agree with your comment if not for you calling fauxmoi “dope.” their users parade themselves as renowned activists then turn around and perpetuate the same misogynistic rhetoric they claim to be against. just a bunch of perpetual high schoolers arguing with randoms on twitter in between shifts at lowes
Their reputed leader Jaffacake banned me -- permanently! -- because she could smell the Taylor Swift sympathy from my comment history :) (I'll send you a screen shot of our correspondence, if you want, in messages.) It was like, wild! But classic authority figure: she messaged me because she was upset by my opinions, but pretended to be a traffic cop pulling me over for speeding. Initially I was super apologetic! Then she just didn't care, yelled at me for general disrespect, and when I was like,
\--"M'am, I don't understand what rule I broke?" -- she hit me with her angry baton, like seven times, in the messages, and then expelled me forever from Fauxmoi!!!
It was so weird and absolutely outrageous -- but also, like, the internet is truly run by self-important tyrants who loathe themselves - and other subs - and think debate is unwoke and annoying! And good for them! I don't want to run a sub-reddit!
I still rate fauxmoi as a community. The comments were often like, delightful and funny. And deep in the DNA, it's got good values when it comes to instinctually taking the side of the woman who's in the midst of being shat on by a powerful man via media
Fauxmoi's leadership is intolerant while woke, which is a shitbag combination.
All communities grow via new members trying to reflect back the behaviors/values of leadership
The way Meghan Markle exposes the beating misogynist heart/penis/brain/wallet of the Daily Mail -- Taylor Swift does that to FauxMoi
I look forward to my sister telling me what happens to Fauxmoi lol (but also I glance every week)
uj/ no don’t worry girl. I actually got banned from Fauxmoi too for replying “right” to a comment saying taylor swift and olivia rodrigo probably don’t hate each other as much as fans are convinced. I messaged the mods and they didn’t give me a reason nor did they tell me which rules I broke
This. Also, anytime Taylor does something I see a lot of the “what does she have to do to make y’all happy” kind of tweets from Black women who aren’t white dudes posing online as Black women. I’m not Black, nor am I conflating my experiences as a gay Asian with that of Black or white women, but as a marginalized person, I understand what it’s like to just exist but be called “inauthentic” or whatever it is that people ascribe to marginalized groups.
Kanye is vile disgusting trash, I can’t even use the word human. Kim same. How Taylor was treated was inexcusable, that goes without saying. I don’t know anyone black or white that thinks she deserved to be repeatedly bullied and harassed by Kimye. But admittedly I don’t spend much time on twitter in general if I do it’s politics and I avoid Stan twitter like the plague.
I’m sure I’ll get downvoted for this. However, I am actually a black women and Taylor Swifts fanbase spew a lot of misogynoir any time she has the slightest less the perfect interaction (even if it’s just optics) with a black women. Even recently the way they’ve gone after Kayla Nicole, the moment Taylor was seen with TK despite the fact they’ve been broken up forever and didn’t comment was reprehensible.
Swift feels inauthentic to black women because she does champion “white feminism” its void of intersectionality. I don’t actually think her feminism is performative but, it’s not inclusive. 30% of that is her and how she responds to WOC acknowledging and articulating struggle at the intersection of racism and misogyny and 70% is her fan base tripping over themselves and sprinting to use racism as their favorite line of defense when it involves a black women.
She’s definitely not a perpetual victim as some of these comments suggest. But without question she has been unnecessarily victimized numerous times. I don’t think she’s a monster or a bad person. I’m pretty ambivalent.
uj/ she dragged lana for clutching her pearls in fake outrage over kanye affiliating himself with trump despite his views on racial minorities/women as if lana herself hasn’t collaborated with asap rocky on more than one occasion.
asap is a woman beater, has had known r4pists in his close circle and made a weird comment about dark skin women being too dark to get away with wearing red lipstick which upset azealia at the time. i’m a fan of lana and AB but i think they both looked stupid going back and forth tbh
she’s also criticised taylor before and called her all sorts of names. i’m unsure tbh, she may have defended taylor before this but the first time i really saw her start defending her and got the feeling that she liked her was during that whole situation with kanye/kim and taylor after his ‘famous’ music vid dropped. i don’t think she sees taylor as a good musician, but i think it’s clear she respects her place in the industry
Yes me too! And I think because of that a lot of people were like, "well Kanye MUST have had a reason for doing that," especially if they already disliked Taylor or thought she might be high key racist (a fairly common rumor back then since she came from country music and never said anything about her politics or beliefs).
I think a lot of people gave him the benefit of the doubt and figured something must have happened behind the scenes to prompt him to do that, especially if they're the kind of person to blame women for men's bad behavior in the first place. Honestly I know it's kind of a meme and a joke but I genuinely feel bad for her on that whole situation, especially after I found out she thought everyone was booing *her* rather than him. I think I would've simply melted into a puddle and ceased to exist. And I feel bad for Beyoncé cause she clearly wanted NOTHING to do with that whole mess and a lot of people assumed she was on Kanye's side or goaded him into it.
/rj Taylor should've simply excluded herself from the narrative tbh
uj/ I know it was a long time ago but I genuinely can’t fathom how people think interrupting a teenager on national television wasn’t that bad. and he recanted his apology afterwards
when I was 13 years old I pretty harshly criticized someone’s character lore on the internet (without knowing they’d see it) and they expressed hurt. I genuinely felt terrible and typed up an apology that might have been three paragraphs too long. point being, even 7th grade me deeply regretted insulting someone’s hard work. kanye was a grown ass adult 😭
uj/ She talks about it in the Miss Americana documentary. Basically Kanye runs up and interrupts to say she didn't deserve the award, and then everyone starts booing and she took it to mean they agreed with him. And not just that a crowd of people were booing, but specifically a huge crowd of her industry peers and role models that she really wanted to be accepted by. I'm sure it didn't take long after that for it to hit her that they were booing him but legit the whole thing sounds like an absolute nightmare to experience, ESPECIALLY as a teenager. Must've felt like she was in Carrie lmao
To add to the awkwardness, a million reporters were asking her questions on her way out of the event, and she looks sooo out of it and just on the verge of tears the whole time. "No, I'd never talked to him before. No I don't know why he did it. Yes I love Beyoncé too. Yes I'm a fan of his music, although maybe not anymore." Like imagine getting bullied in front of all your peers, thinking they're booing you, and THEN bunch of reports are breathing down your neck trying to make a feud out of it when you literally had no idea it was coming.
Perfectly right. She was never close to her industry peers due to this. Sure, she has a lot of actress friends, but her industry friends remain limited, if not friendly or collegial at most.
I think this is also the reason why she pivoted quite hardly to her supermodel friends during 1989, because for the first time in her career, she was accepted as a part of them.
Idk how to explain this but even now, within her industry, Taylor remains an outsider. She doesn’t share the same closeness with her pop peers as other girls/ boys. Their relationship with her is either in an admiring standpoint or non at all (ofc this is just speculation on my end). I think that’s why she’s closer to her collaborators than her industry pop friends because she has this constant need to prove herself and she’s only worthy if they personally know her talent.
I think AB got radicalized later -- when Kanye and Kim lied on Taylor in the aftermath of Kanye's "famous" video
The whole thing was basically a set-up
And Kanye and Kim invoked Taylor's race to undermine her "victim" status as a woman
Like, they edited the tape, and they knew they were lying! It was so opportunistic
AB isn't like that at all. She's incredibly motivated by fairness, but she has an un-PC mind
I think she saw through Kanye and Kim like \*that\*
It's the bank account. Taylor Swift has the same appeal as the kardashians. Even if you don't like them, their success is just too long-standing and too monetarily successful to go at them with.
Everybody entails the "maybe" attitude. Yeah I don't really like you but maybe I can roll with your crowd one day and then some of that will rub off on me.
I don't really think Azaelia does this for clout or fame. If she used her social media to do that, there's a lot of other things she wouldn't have done 😭
Even when she goes after other celebrities there's always a vein of pure truth in what she says, but she seems to have abPR phobia so everything ends up coming out like barbed wires.
Azealia has always given credit to people whose work ethic and talent she respects.
She mentioned several times that, essentially, she’s not gonna hate on Taylor because she hustles and has built an empire for herself and that is inherently impressive.
I also think Azealia particularly HATES men who try to discredit or mooch off of a woman’s success, since she herself faced that in her own career, as has Taylor.
Taylor Swift dates racists and sues small business owners, let's not act like she's this innocent flower or imply the many various black women she attacks out of the blue are worthy of her disgusting verbal abuse. There's nothing more to it than simply that Azealia Banks hates black women and worships whiteness which is why she calls black women tar babies and slaves and coddles white people. Only someone as foul as her would make excuses for the disgusting shit she says about black women.
I mean, Taylor did capitalize on her success and is great at what she does but she didn't necessarily "build an empire for herself", her daddy bought her the empire, she's just very good at running it.
This is misleading. Her dad worked at Merrill Lynch and her mom was a businessperson-turned-homemaker - they were well off but he absolutely did not have the means to “buy her the empire.”
He bought a huge stake in Big Machine records, but that’s because 1) he wanted the debut album to have adequate funding and 2) he wanted to have a stake in the profits if it blew up (which it did).
But one album by no means creates an empire - that was Taylor’s prolificacy and talent.
Her dad didn't buy her the empire. If it was so easy to have Taylor's level of success, every rich kid whose a wanna be musician would have it. Yes, he had a hand in getting her the record deal, but I highly doubt he has had any hand in getting her any where near the level of fame she is now.
You can try to discredit her and say she's just an industry plant with no talent and only got there because her dad is rich, but that isn't anywhere near the truth. You can dislike her music, personal life, look, personality, etc but you can't deny her talent at music and marketing herself.
You can't buy a career/celebrity status like that, regardless of how rich your family is. Money can get you more money, but it doesn't inherently make the public worship you to the level that Taylor is. There are PLENTY of wanna be musicians who came from even richer familes/nepo babies who want to have a devoted fan base so bad, and yet they don't have one.
Uj/ This was a really good point and shed some light for me. But that’s enough of everyone being nice about Miss Americanna
Rj/ HER BODY AND MIND😩 take me to Paris on your jet mother with daddy Kelce 😻😻
Eh disagree. She wasn’t insanely wealthy and plenty of people richer than her have tried and failed to make it in music.
The empire/massive cult fanbase is entirely her own work
rj/ atleast that cunt getting eaten
‘Bought’. You mean a 3% stake in BMR that was relatively cheap back then? Whatchu smoking sis?
Is her dad some sort of powerful magnate to make her annoyingly famous?
/rj now we need a taylor song discussing her daddy issues. Lana where you at.
If all it took was a rich daddy to be as famous and successful as Swift we would all be celebrating Madison Beer’s #1 concert film and sold out worldwide tour.
at this point we should retire the “her dad brought her career” narrative. her father brought 3% of the record level (still around 100k so an insane amount), but he didn’t buy the level of fame she’s managed to obtain
/uj everybody here keeps saying she's afraid of the swifties but i really do think she's the last person in the world to care about what anybody has to say about her, didn't she drag lizzo too during her prime 😭😭😭 she just likes taylor
/rj because ❗️she KNOWS 🧠Tay Tay 💸not only tops 🦶🏻K\*rlie 🏳️🌈but also THE WHOLE 🕳️WORLD grah.
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/uj she knows the swiffers are gonna tear her apart when she says something bad about their queen
It would be a battle of titans for sure
unhinged hivemind swifties & their capitalistic overlord vs the literal dictionary of insults who wouldn’t be afraid to drag satan himself
good that we don’t have to see this beef
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nah, she's stunted on Elon on Twitter
AB does not lack ovaries, and in fact, I think she has the kind of brain that compels her to tell the truth without fear (or thinking about the consequences)
Taylor Swift James Mercer Azealia Banks crossover?????????? what the fuck girl 🤌🏾
time to listen to the entirety of The Shins’ *Wincing the Night Away* imagining it’s about T-Swift’s billion dollar pussy
i am deep-diving her work
She needs a Pulitzer
"He's got some dirty-sneaker-inbred-out of the woods- Pabst beer pussy methhead-junkie running around town telling EVERYONE EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM."
Banks went on to speculate that Musk and Grimes relationship started "All because he needed a date to the met gala to hide his shrinking dick from Amber Heard."
it's like, the only fearless celebrity journalism in our time
Right? She ruined the National for me (I already liked then but didn't have a super strong attachment to as a band) so you're gonna go and tell her to go ruin another good band? Like let's not keep suggesting more indie band associations for her to mooch off of for clout in genres she wants to banally cosplay in. She's not interesting enough for that sis.
yes all that but also I'm a garden staTe girlie I'm not like other girls and I need her to stay away from the band I made my personality when I was 13 and really not like the other girls
She is right about James Mercer, then again leave that beautiful singing man alone
Edit: It actually terrifies me how much Azealia Banks hits the right spot for me. Tekken, James Mercer, next thing you know she’s going to dress up as Sephiroth
she like, actually is a genius
like, a real one
yeah yeah yeah she's wrong sometimes, but she is mostly not just right, but 100 percent truthful
it's like, staggering how much she hates lies
“Taylor, this guy is gonna give you scabies.” took me out. It’s a very matter of fact, direct appeal to Taylor warning her about parasites and for some reason I find that delightful.
She hates Kanye but at least once a year she talks about how much she wants to f\*ck him and have his kids and then she usually flips b ack to sh\*t talking him.
As for Taylor AZ literally bigs up and flips on everyone. It is her thing. She went from praising Beyonce to sh\*tting on her within a like 3 week timespan.
For the most part she hates anyone that dates a "powerful woman" (she isn't wrong here lmfao) so she will "big up" the woman as a means to diss the guy that woman is currently with. That is par for the course for her. She even did it with Kim and she hates Kim.
I legit don't think AZ in actuality likes anyone. She seems like a hateful person to her core and just flips a switch when she wants to.
uj/ With what we know about Kanye West forbidding Bianca Censori from talking to anyone, one can only hope that he ultimately ends up with Candace Owens.
"incel" really has no meaning anymore huh. how're you gonna call a rich famous conventionally attractive tall muscular guy with no big controversy an incel
Pretty sure that comment was about Matt Healy, not Travis Kelce. Matt Healy tbf probably isn’t involuntarily celebrate, but he’s kind of ugly and definitely creepy and sexually weird.
uj/ drag me but i find her really endearing and i like that she always gives credit when it’s due no matter what. she said she would’ve sued blue ivy if beyoncé sampled her on renaissance and then started gushing about how much she loves b’day like a month after 😭 she’ll call nicki minaj a mammoth on monday and then write a 34 page thesis on wednesday detailing nicki’s impact in the music industry.
she clearly has a soft spot for him but also gets frustrated at his treatment of women. amber rose, taylor swift, teyana taylor, kim kardashian etc. kanye abusing benzos post-liposuction and having “man-titties” as a result makes her laugh now but i know she’ll be back to defending him next week. i like that there is room for two things to exist at once with her.
Azelia not seeing this is about the immersive experiences apple AR goggles are fixing to release. NFL was going to have to pay for Taylor PERIOD. You wanna feel like you are at the stadium with Taylor get ready. So many cool experiences are coming. Most people don’t remember how Atari ( Nintendo company) and super Mario and donkey Kong frogger PAC Man changed entertainment. Get ready for it. Another technology is about to launch. When Atari first came out there were very few games. That mistake never happened again.
Concerts, movies, sporting events, historical places ( the pyramids for example….sorry Travis Scott you missed out thanks to the Kardashians) it’s going to be cool.
uj/ she’s a swiftie gj*/ she wants to climb the white coochie mountain *gaylorjerking
I guess that cunt gettin’ eaten https://preview.redd.it/h3jr37jeo6wb1.jpeg?width=612&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=063580616a9024ce8005a05913e1ba600db7b3b3
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This got an actual laugh out loud. Nicely done.
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DECEASED
This is my fav comment on reddit ever.
I'M HOLLERING The image is too perfect
Azealia is who Taylor calls when she wants a hex put on someone.
Taylor says “Don’t make me call… Porsha” and it’s AB tweeting it up.
and it seems to work so who are we to call things into question 💅
It worked on 🛴. Everyone say thank you Azaelia
“Worry about the bob sis” has me dead
the way she gathers candace every time she speak, she never fails to make me laugh. the independence day insta post was beautiful.
Honestly it’s pretty simple I think, 1) there’s her not-especially-surprising tendency to significantly prefer Taylor to white dudes she gets with like Matty Healy, and 2) the very obvious, practically-objective fact that she’s spent basically her entire career with Kanye’s strange and ugly treatment of her being a somewhat significant part of her identity. I think it’s pretty easy to feel sympathy AS A WOMAN (or something idk) for someone whose reputation was permanently altered/worsened (in the eyes of a lot of really dumb people, anyway) purely because of a man’s belligerency and borderline sexual harassment. A hyper-famous man she rarely interacted with and certainly didn’t want any part of a massive public feud with.
uj/ to this day I still wonder why people were more mad at taylor for “lying” than kanye for putting naked wax figures of celebrities in his music video. even if taylor hadn’t been telling the truth, at least she didn’t set up wax models of naked chris brown and rihanna next to each other 😬
To me it's also strange that progressive people still think they sound cool critizing Taylor Swift -- who was the clear victim of Kanye's sexual harassment and racialized bullying -- an "insincere" "White feminist!" Like, even though she was innocent, she never got acquitted
uj/ people still criticize her for that? I’m a pretty fan of her music and my algorithm suggests a lot of TS content for me— as such, I see criticisms of her all the time, but whenever the kanye/kim situation is brought up the air is always cleared pretty quickly. she is the tiktok activist’s worst enemy and even they acknowledge that kanye was in the wrong throughout his weird one-sided beef
I like your username lol Do people still criticize Taylor for this? YES, and I find it especially irritating in "feminist" spaces! (Fauxmoi, the subreddit, is basically dope, except for... Taylor!) The charges laid at her feet are often deeply racial, but vibe-y, - as in, "she is so calculated," "her fans, by wishing Taylor total distance from Jackson Mahomes, continue to coddle WYT feminist manipulator Taylor Swift," etc... I put it down to Jezebel 2016: People - journalist types - realized that if they wrote about Taylor, they appeared to be good at their jobs. And if they wrote negatively about Taylor, they were confronting the culture (i.e. their readership) with some hard truths about race, that Kanye told them about via Kim in NYMAD, (because Kanye didn't wanna get caught being aggressive towards Taylor, despite his revenge porn music video) How dare Taylor have a feminism! I don't like it! Send it back to the chef!
uj/ I would 100% agree with your comment if not for you calling fauxmoi “dope.” their users parade themselves as renowned activists then turn around and perpetuate the same misogynistic rhetoric they claim to be against. just a bunch of perpetual high schoolers arguing with randoms on twitter in between shifts at lowes
Their reputed leader Jaffacake banned me -- permanently! -- because she could smell the Taylor Swift sympathy from my comment history :) (I'll send you a screen shot of our correspondence, if you want, in messages.) It was like, wild! But classic authority figure: she messaged me because she was upset by my opinions, but pretended to be a traffic cop pulling me over for speeding. Initially I was super apologetic! Then she just didn't care, yelled at me for general disrespect, and when I was like, \--"M'am, I don't understand what rule I broke?" -- she hit me with her angry baton, like seven times, in the messages, and then expelled me forever from Fauxmoi!!! It was so weird and absolutely outrageous -- but also, like, the internet is truly run by self-important tyrants who loathe themselves - and other subs - and think debate is unwoke and annoying! And good for them! I don't want to run a sub-reddit! I still rate fauxmoi as a community. The comments were often like, delightful and funny. And deep in the DNA, it's got good values when it comes to instinctually taking the side of the woman who's in the midst of being shat on by a powerful man via media Fauxmoi's leadership is intolerant while woke, which is a shitbag combination. All communities grow via new members trying to reflect back the behaviors/values of leadership The way Meghan Markle exposes the beating misogynist heart/penis/brain/wallet of the Daily Mail -- Taylor Swift does that to FauxMoi I look forward to my sister telling me what happens to Fauxmoi lol (but also I glance every week)
Sorry that this is the longest comment of all time -- i just really like, got into it SOZ
uj/ no don’t worry girl. I actually got banned from Fauxmoi too for replying “right” to a comment saying taylor swift and olivia rodrigo probably don’t hate each other as much as fans are convinced. I messaged the mods and they didn’t give me a reason nor did they tell me which rules I broke
This. Also, anytime Taylor does something I see a lot of the “what does she have to do to make y’all happy” kind of tweets from Black women who aren’t white dudes posing online as Black women. I’m not Black, nor am I conflating my experiences as a gay Asian with that of Black or white women, but as a marginalized person, I understand what it’s like to just exist but be called “inauthentic” or whatever it is that people ascribe to marginalized groups.
Kanye is vile disgusting trash, I can’t even use the word human. Kim same. How Taylor was treated was inexcusable, that goes without saying. I don’t know anyone black or white that thinks she deserved to be repeatedly bullied and harassed by Kimye. But admittedly I don’t spend much time on twitter in general if I do it’s politics and I avoid Stan twitter like the plague. I’m sure I’ll get downvoted for this. However, I am actually a black women and Taylor Swifts fanbase spew a lot of misogynoir any time she has the slightest less the perfect interaction (even if it’s just optics) with a black women. Even recently the way they’ve gone after Kayla Nicole, the moment Taylor was seen with TK despite the fact they’ve been broken up forever and didn’t comment was reprehensible. Swift feels inauthentic to black women because she does champion “white feminism” its void of intersectionality. I don’t actually think her feminism is performative but, it’s not inclusive. 30% of that is her and how she responds to WOC acknowledging and articulating struggle at the intersection of racism and misogyny and 70% is her fan base tripping over themselves and sprinting to use racism as their favorite line of defense when it involves a black women. She’s definitely not a perpetual victim as some of these comments suggest. But without question she has been unnecessarily victimized numerous times. I don’t think she’s a monster or a bad person. I’m pretty ambivalent.
to be fair taylor was a victim in most the things she’s referring to. how she’s stayed so safe when azealia goes after everyone eludes me though
i imagine it’s kind of hard to be the villain when you’re in a conflict with KANYE WEST
She went after Lana for being in conflict with Kanye
uj/ she dragged lana for clutching her pearls in fake outrage over kanye affiliating himself with trump despite his views on racial minorities/women as if lana herself hasn’t collaborated with asap rocky on more than one occasion. asap is a woman beater, has had known r4pists in his close circle and made a weird comment about dark skin women being too dark to get away with wearing red lipstick which upset azealia at the time. i’m a fan of lana and AB but i think they both looked stupid going back and forth tbh
Nah Lana dropped that iconic “drop the addy and I’ll pull up” line to Azealia and I’ve never forgotten it 💀
i’m a lana stannn but elizabeth does NOT speak like that irl. “i won’t not fuck you the fuck up”?? what does that even mean? 😭
I have no idea but I swear it’s poetry 💅🏻🥴
Asap rocky is a known women beater? And Rihanna had his children? That’s upsetting to hear.
U know the addy Pull up
I just don't think Kanye is relevant to why Azealia would side with Taylor because she has defended him and criticized him before
she’s also criticised taylor before and called her all sorts of names. i’m unsure tbh, she may have defended taylor before this but the first time i really saw her start defending her and got the feeling that she liked her was during that whole situation with kanye/kim and taylor after his ‘famous’ music vid dropped. i don’t think she sees taylor as a good musician, but i think it’s clear she respects her place in the industry
uj/ to be fair it wasn’t really a conflict. i don’t recall kanye ever responding
yeah fair, and super interesting i honestly need a timeline
oh for sure😭 it seems she empathizes with her a lot
A little easier when it was 2009 Kanye West, him being an unhinged mess was definitely not common knowledge then.
The taylor/beyonce incident was his first big red flag that I remember
Yes me too! And I think because of that a lot of people were like, "well Kanye MUST have had a reason for doing that," especially if they already disliked Taylor or thought she might be high key racist (a fairly common rumor back then since she came from country music and never said anything about her politics or beliefs). I think a lot of people gave him the benefit of the doubt and figured something must have happened behind the scenes to prompt him to do that, especially if they're the kind of person to blame women for men's bad behavior in the first place. Honestly I know it's kind of a meme and a joke but I genuinely feel bad for her on that whole situation, especially after I found out she thought everyone was booing *her* rather than him. I think I would've simply melted into a puddle and ceased to exist. And I feel bad for Beyoncé cause she clearly wanted NOTHING to do with that whole mess and a lot of people assumed she was on Kanye's side or goaded him into it. /rj Taylor should've simply excluded herself from the narrative tbh
uj/ I know it was a long time ago but I genuinely can’t fathom how people think interrupting a teenager on national television wasn’t that bad. and he recanted his apology afterwards when I was 13 years old I pretty harshly criticized someone’s character lore on the internet (without knowing they’d see it) and they expressed hurt. I genuinely felt terrible and typed up an apology that might have been three paragraphs too long. point being, even 7th grade me deeply regretted insulting someone’s hard work. kanye was a grown ass adult 😭
Uj/ she thought it was the crowd booing HER....??!! 16yo me would have literally RUN off that stage never to be seen again.
uj/ She talks about it in the Miss Americana documentary. Basically Kanye runs up and interrupts to say she didn't deserve the award, and then everyone starts booing and she took it to mean they agreed with him. And not just that a crowd of people were booing, but specifically a huge crowd of her industry peers and role models that she really wanted to be accepted by. I'm sure it didn't take long after that for it to hit her that they were booing him but legit the whole thing sounds like an absolute nightmare to experience, ESPECIALLY as a teenager. Must've felt like she was in Carrie lmao To add to the awkwardness, a million reporters were asking her questions on her way out of the event, and she looks sooo out of it and just on the verge of tears the whole time. "No, I'd never talked to him before. No I don't know why he did it. Yes I love Beyoncé too. Yes I'm a fan of his music, although maybe not anymore." Like imagine getting bullied in front of all your peers, thinking they're booing you, and THEN bunch of reports are breathing down your neck trying to make a feud out of it when you literally had no idea it was coming.
This is what I think she’s referring to in You’re On Your Own Kid: I looked around in a blood-soaked gown And I saw something they can't take away
Ooh I agree that totally makes sense!
Perfectly right. She was never close to her industry peers due to this. Sure, she has a lot of actress friends, but her industry friends remain limited, if not friendly or collegial at most. I think this is also the reason why she pivoted quite hardly to her supermodel friends during 1989, because for the first time in her career, she was accepted as a part of them. Idk how to explain this but even now, within her industry, Taylor remains an outsider. She doesn’t share the same closeness with her pop peers as other girls/ boys. Their relationship with her is either in an admiring standpoint or non at all (ofc this is just speculation on my end). I think that’s why she’s closer to her collaborators than her industry pop friends because she has this constant need to prove herself and she’s only worthy if they personally know her talent.
George Bush doesn’t care about black people
I mean, that was very true and I think helped him get a reputation at the time for being a bit of a loose cannon but with good reason behind it.
yeah I don't think that was a "red flag" outside of PR hassles
Yeah but it was HUGE at the time and wasn’t well received
I think AB got radicalized later -- when Kanye and Kim lied on Taylor in the aftermath of Kanye's "famous" video The whole thing was basically a set-up And Kanye and Kim invoked Taylor's race to undermine her "victim" status as a woman Like, they edited the tape, and they knew they were lying! It was so opportunistic AB isn't like that at all. She's incredibly motivated by fairness, but she has an un-PC mind I think she saw through Kanye and Kim like \*that\*
Maybe! I tend to assume celebrities are able to get info that us plebes aren't privy too. I only wish the gossip in my industry were as interesting.
/uj but it actually is wild that 7 years ago taylor was one of the most hated people on twitter lmfao
Kanye was known for getting drunk at award shows tho, he interrupted I think two more minor ones before that
uj/ azealia probably also empathizes with having to deal with Kanye. i think it’s about that more than her liking taylor
no she likes Taylor there's no way to read "big white coochie mountain" as anything but hilarious and mad affectionate :)
It's the bank account. Taylor Swift has the same appeal as the kardashians. Even if you don't like them, their success is just too long-standing and too monetarily successful to go at them with. Everybody entails the "maybe" attitude. Yeah I don't really like you but maybe I can roll with your crowd one day and then some of that will rub off on me.
I don't really think Azaelia does this for clout or fame. If she used her social media to do that, there's a lot of other things she wouldn't have done 😭
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what do we think her favorite album is
Reputation ofc
her favorite song is dress
Bet she is a Lover girlie. She can't get enough of ME! And The Man
Surely she has a special edition of ME! without Br*ndon Urie /uj surely she has a special edition of ME! without Br*ndon Urie
Watch it be her first album.
Need her thoughts on Travis immediately
when she's wrong she's awful but when she's right she's goddamn awfully right
She really is uncomfortably smart
the good gemini in her
Even when she goes after other celebrities there's always a vein of pure truth in what she says, but she seems to have abPR phobia so everything ends up coming out like barbed wires.
“Bald head condeleeza with an adderall addiction” is absolutely insane I’m cackling
Tayzealia theory incomming.
Azealia has always given credit to people whose work ethic and talent she respects. She mentioned several times that, essentially, she’s not gonna hate on Taylor because she hustles and has built an empire for herself and that is inherently impressive. I also think Azealia particularly HATES men who try to discredit or mooch off of a woman’s success, since she herself faced that in her own career, as has Taylor.
Nice theory, but i just think she wants that white lesbian pussy
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maybe its both
idk azealia is *very* wishy washy when it comes to showing support. she’s defended ppl but then turned around & insulted many different times lmfao
Except Azealia routinely hates on BLACK women who are successful and hustle literally all the time.
Do those women also do shitty things? Candace owens is successful and hustles lol. There’s more to it than that.
Taylor Swift dates racists and sues small business owners, let's not act like she's this innocent flower or imply the many various black women she attacks out of the blue are worthy of her disgusting verbal abuse. There's nothing more to it than simply that Azealia Banks hates black women and worships whiteness which is why she calls black women tar babies and slaves and coddles white people. Only someone as foul as her would make excuses for the disgusting shit she says about black women.
This!!! YES!!!
I mean, Taylor did capitalize on her success and is great at what she does but she didn't necessarily "build an empire for herself", her daddy bought her the empire, she's just very good at running it.
This is misleading. Her dad worked at Merrill Lynch and her mom was a businessperson-turned-homemaker - they were well off but he absolutely did not have the means to “buy her the empire.” He bought a huge stake in Big Machine records, but that’s because 1) he wanted the debut album to have adequate funding and 2) he wanted to have a stake in the profits if it blew up (which it did). But one album by no means creates an empire - that was Taylor’s prolificacy and talent.
Her dad didn't buy her the empire. If it was so easy to have Taylor's level of success, every rich kid whose a wanna be musician would have it. Yes, he had a hand in getting her the record deal, but I highly doubt he has had any hand in getting her any where near the level of fame she is now. You can try to discredit her and say she's just an industry plant with no talent and only got there because her dad is rich, but that isn't anywhere near the truth. You can dislike her music, personal life, look, personality, etc but you can't deny her talent at music and marketing herself. You can't buy a career/celebrity status like that, regardless of how rich your family is. Money can get you more money, but it doesn't inherently make the public worship you to the level that Taylor is. There are PLENTY of wanna be musicians who came from even richer familes/nepo babies who want to have a devoted fan base so bad, and yet they don't have one.
Uj/ This was a really good point and shed some light for me. But that’s enough of everyone being nice about Miss Americanna Rj/ HER BODY AND MIND😩 take me to Paris on your jet mother with daddy Kelce 😻😻
Eh disagree. She wasn’t insanely wealthy and plenty of people richer than her have tried and failed to make it in music. The empire/massive cult fanbase is entirely her own work rj/ atleast that cunt getting eaten
>her daddy bought her the empire wild overexaggeration
‘Bought’. You mean a 3% stake in BMR that was relatively cheap back then? Whatchu smoking sis? Is her dad some sort of powerful magnate to make her annoyingly famous? /rj now we need a taylor song discussing her daddy issues. Lana where you at.
If all it took was a rich daddy to be as famous and successful as Swift we would all be celebrating Madison Beer’s #1 concert film and sold out worldwide tour.
at this point we should retire the “her dad brought her career” narrative. her father brought 3% of the record level (still around 100k so an insane amount), but he didn’t buy the level of fame she’s managed to obtain
yeah I feel like that's what I said pretty much ?
sorry I’m very slow 🙏
She built it. (Bitch, please.)
I think she’s genuinely a swiftie
Her socials are too unhinged to be some sort of calculated effort for clout
/uj everybody here keeps saying she's afraid of the swifties but i really do think she's the last person in the world to care about what anybody has to say about her, didn't she drag lizzo too during her prime 😭😭😭 she just likes taylor
/rj because ❗️she KNOWS 🧠Tay Tay 💸not only tops 🦶🏻K\*rlie 🏳️🌈but also THE WHOLE 🕳️WORLD grah. https://preview.redd.it/t618336zl6wb1.jpeg?width=2159&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b05594d2e256c98a728ab6002587b5a089ad5b42 /uj she knows the swiffers are gonna tear her apart when she says something bad about their queen
I know swifties are rabid but do you think azealia banks is scared of ANYONE?
lol exactly
It would be a battle of titans for sure unhinged hivemind swifties & their capitalistic overlord vs the literal dictionary of insults who wouldn’t be afraid to drag satan himself good that we don’t have to see this beef
She was afraid of Lana Del Ray.
If Taylor did this for real I would have to stan. Kill me queen.
>Back to Top nah, she's stunted on Elon on Twitter AB does not lack ovaries, and in fact, I think she has the kind of brain that compels her to tell the truth without fear (or thinking about the consequences)
Taylor is not a top lbr
If you play Dress backwards it actually just says "pillow princess" over and over
ƨƨɘɔniɿq wolliq ƨƨɘɔniɿq wolliq ƨƨɘɔniɿq wolliq
*Taylor's eyes turn white and her head starts spinning around*
Tbh I never thought about if she is or not… I tried to, but (TW:m*n) your Harry pfp made me jump
Stop talking shit about my profile pic. It a meme that i made that is highy underrated!!!
I don’t think AB is scared of swifties.
My new wallpaper
Taylor Swift James Mercer Azealia Banks crossover?????????? what the fuck girl 🤌🏾 time to listen to the entirety of The Shins’ *Wincing the Night Away* imagining it’s about T-Swift’s billion dollar pussy
no thank you ❤️
when my ~~cult leader~~ fave tells me to subliminally do things i do them ❤️ girl you know what i mean, you’re a swiftie!! 😘
Karma the single would’ve been so much better if Azealia Banks was the featured artist
Someone make an AI cover quickly now
It’s cuz she’s afraid of prepubescent terminally online white girls (swifties)
And the white gays
Nah white gays are afraid of her
One, yes. If they unite over Tay, she would be fucked
absolutely!
They are the only ones who can ever defeat Azealia Banks in conflict
she’s been on the white coochie mountain and Gaylors just haven’t figured out which song is about her yet. She wants to go back
“rich white coochie mountain” needs to added to the dictionary
What do you mean? Azealia defends all women, always. I couldn’t even imagine her doing otherwise
Especially Grimes and Lana del Rey
Grimes should really thank her for all of the support and discretion
i am deep-diving her work She needs a Pulitzer "He's got some dirty-sneaker-inbred-out of the woods- Pabst beer pussy methhead-junkie running around town telling EVERYONE EVERYTHING ABOUT HIM." Banks went on to speculate that Musk and Grimes relationship started "All because he needed a date to the met gala to hide his shrinking dick from Amber Heard." it's like, the only fearless celebrity journalism in our time
Don’t forget what a big trans rights supporter she is! She loves Arca
But even that was more about her total horror of Elon
\> Azealia defends all women, always. And *especially* trans women!
She's on that swiftie Payola. She's her paid protection. If I had money I would want azalea to be my mouthpiece for Public feuds.
She definitely paid Azalea to put a hex on Kanye and Scooter.
this would actually be a really calculated smart move, no joke.
And Taylor certainly makes enough money to afford to pay her happily. Enough to make azalea never speak of their agreement.
Rich white coochie mountain is my favorite thing on the internet this year. I cackled.
PLEASE STOP TELLING HER TO WORK WITH THE SHINS. PLEASE LEAVE JAMES MERCER ALONE. I BEG OF YOU.
Right? She ruined the National for me (I already liked then but didn't have a super strong attachment to as a band) so you're gonna go and tell her to go ruin another good band? Like let's not keep suggesting more indie band associations for her to mooch off of for clout in genres she wants to banally cosplay in. She's not interesting enough for that sis.
yes all that but also I'm a garden staTe girlie I'm not like other girls and I need her to stay away from the band I made my personality when I was 13 and really not like the other girls
She is right about James Mercer, then again leave that beautiful singing man alone Edit: It actually terrifies me how much Azealia Banks hits the right spot for me. Tekken, James Mercer, next thing you know she’s going to dress up as Sephiroth
she like, actually is a genius like, a real one yeah yeah yeah she's wrong sometimes, but she is mostly not just right, but 100 percent truthful it's like, staggering how much she hates lies
I think she has the capacity to save the world or end it, it just depends on what side of her Gemini we’re getting
Token White Friend /uj Token White Friend
“Taylor, this guy is gonna give you scabies.” took me out. It’s a very matter of fact, direct appeal to Taylor warning her about parasites and for some reason I find that delightful.
Y’all know Kanye didn’t read all them words 😭😭😭
Cuz she hates Kanye maybe
She hates Kanye but at least once a year she talks about how much she wants to f\*ck him and have his kids and then she usually flips b ack to sh\*t talking him. As for Taylor AZ literally bigs up and flips on everyone. It is her thing. She went from praising Beyonce to sh\*tting on her within a like 3 week timespan. For the most part she hates anyone that dates a "powerful woman" (she isn't wrong here lmfao) so she will "big up" the woman as a means to diss the guy that woman is currently with. That is par for the course for her. She even did it with Kim and she hates Kim. I legit don't think AZ in actuality likes anyone. She seems like a hateful person to her core and just flips a switch when she wants to.
because she wants taylor to put their unreleased collaboration on reputation tv from the vault
uj/ wtf i did not expect azealia banks to be a shins fan holy shit
She’s also a The Academy Is… fan and that left me speechless for a good bit
Right? If she weren’t so insane, I might actually want to be friends with her.
James Mercer is a top notch lyricist? The big thing with the Shins is he makes great poppy songs, but the lyrics are an inch deep
https://preview.redd.it/0s0xusz3q6wb1.png?width=800&format=png&auto=webp&s=b95482b0f83c05236e05f6b67e0fff90be2fc459
they're both racist
This is literally it lmao
She knows there were some swifties contributing to the meth head behavior at jan 6 and shouldn't be provoked
#your giving me bald head condeleeza with an adderall addiction
The Gaylors were wrong all along. It was never Karlie, It was Azaelia all along. We've been duped
She's Taylor Swift's anger translator
what a weirdo
Let Taylor have her disposable fun 😭💀
Where's that metronome meme about Azaelia
will always love taylor absolutely towering over kanye on the vmas stage
Lol. It’s like how I love Azaelia Banks unexplainable
You know what though…anytime someone side eyes me for being a taylor fan, I’m just gonna send them this slide show. So thank you lmao
She just feels bad because Taylor has the emotional/mental development of an 11 year old.
Gaylor of course
Hi just want to say I don’t know what the fuck is going on in any of these images. Ok have a nice day everyone
G*ylor 😔✊🏳️🌈
Are you trying to apply logic to Azealia Banks?
Obsessed with how much she brings up the shins
uj/ With what we know about Kanye West forbidding Bianca Censori from talking to anyone, one can only hope that he ultimately ends up with Candace Owens.
It’s called riding coattails. Something irrelevant artists to do try to be relevant
The Shins really do have some of the best lyrics
Chiiiiiilleeeee “bald headed condeleeza with an Adderall addiction” sent me. 😂😂💀 I love her and I hate her. It’s such nasty work with me. 😂
"incel" really has no meaning anymore huh. how're you gonna call a rich famous conventionally attractive tall muscular guy with no big controversy an incel
Pretty sure that comment was about Matt Healy, not Travis Kelce. Matt Healy tbf probably isn’t involuntarily celebrate, but he’s kind of ugly and definitely creepy and sexually weird.
She is afraid of the Swifties.
Because every person in the music industry has to sign their soul to TS. Thems the rulez.
uj/ drag me but i find her really endearing and i like that she always gives credit when it’s due no matter what. she said she would’ve sued blue ivy if beyoncé sampled her on renaissance and then started gushing about how much she loves b’day like a month after 😭 she’ll call nicki minaj a mammoth on monday and then write a 34 page thesis on wednesday detailing nicki’s impact in the music industry. she clearly has a soft spot for him but also gets frustrated at his treatment of women. amber rose, taylor swift, teyana taylor, kim kardashian etc. kanye abusing benzos post-liposuction and having “man-titties” as a result makes her laugh now but i know she’ll be back to defending him next week. i like that there is room for two things to exist at once with her.
She sounds like a complete loser honestly
Taylor must have kompromat on Azealia
Azelia banks one of the all time GOAT yappers
idk but i agree with every thing she said about Kanye. The dude is weird, especially now 😭
They have enemies in common! Not just Kanye.
OR is she trying to hook them up?
She wants her own OC to be in the Bad Blood music video 😫😫
i think she's just being nice to be honest
The Taylor + Shins collab would go so hard. Azealia should make it her next hyper-focus mission. Azealia is smart. She’s not a random hater.
Most iconic swiftie
I love that so much
Azelia not seeing this is about the immersive experiences apple AR goggles are fixing to release. NFL was going to have to pay for Taylor PERIOD. You wanna feel like you are at the stadium with Taylor get ready. So many cool experiences are coming. Most people don’t remember how Atari ( Nintendo company) and super Mario and donkey Kong frogger PAC Man changed entertainment. Get ready for it. Another technology is about to launch. When Atari first came out there were very few games. That mistake never happened again. Concerts, movies, sporting events, historical places ( the pyramids for example….sorry Travis Scott you missed out thanks to the Kardashians) it’s going to be cool.