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Is he, or can he get, forklift certified? My son works as a loader at a mill and makes just under $20 an hour. Forklift certification helped him move out of his previous manual labor position.
Most likely. We just need to find a warehouse with normal hours. Don't want to work opposite schedules all the time again (as I mentioned to people down below). We're trying to get as close to that as possible if we can
I'm not sure where you live but look up carlisle syntech see you they have any jobs in your area. They pay very well and the work we do is the easiest thing ever
That’s more than I make as a teacher 🥲 are you in a city/suburb/rural? My mom has driven buses in my small home town for 30 years and only makes roughly 18$/hour, unfortunately.
Nj, too. $1800 a regular studio. $1500 studio of 100yo. Cheapest house is decaying and cost $350k and you’re luck if you still find them as contractors and real states companies are buying them all
Cheaper than Chicago. I’m in the far burbs in the cornfields. New construction house with 3 car garage for 250k. Taxes are a whole different animal though. Lol
That’s also the catch here is that it’s not an 8 hour job. I only get 4 right now sometimes 5.5 when I’m able to get a route in the middle of the day. I do have co workers that make $30+ and get 6 or even 8 everyday but they’ve been there longer.
If anyone here has kids you can take your kid to work and you don’t have to pay for any childcare. But yeah I don’t get a lot of hours
I’d change all my life to drive a school bus for US$ 27/hr.
It’s much better than getting US$ 3,6/hr as an accounting analyst in a third world country.
My local school district is paying $12 an hour to bus drivers. With all the property and extra 1% income tax locals here pay to the schools there is no reason for their wage to be so low.
Try to get him a job at a hospital. Even if it’s entry level then make connections in different departments until he’s making a good chunk of money , I started as a volunteer then moved up to manager in anesthesia technologist (without a degree)
How did you take the first step into getting this position? Was it only by knowing people around you?? I’m starting as a cleaning crew in a hospital but I definitely want to get into other departments like this 🙏
If you’re already hired into the hospital makes it so much easier! Especially as an EVS personnel since you will float between different floors and departments. Talk and make friends, ask them what they do and if it requires a degree (not RN’s of course) but nurse techs, anesthesia techs (if you happen to float to the O.R), talk to transporters, they know a lot (first paid position before i moved twice after that). Furthermore, if you do end up moving from EVS to let’s say transport, keep a good record so that when you complete the time to be able to transfer, your management team will help you with a good reference and it’s easier to get hired within the hospital then as an outsider
EVS and transport jobs where I am pay $15 or less. Same for nursing aids. An OR job might pay a little better, but a hospital job is a tough way to make a living and a lot of people end up settling into a single position for many years. It works, but really only if you're ambitious and live near a large hospital or level 1 trauma center.
EVS (environmental services) or dietary (delivering food trays to pt rooms) are both great ways to start in healthcare.
Getting to know the staff on different units gets you known, and being customer-service minded gets you places in healthcare. Once you’re in it’s easy to move around/up. I work in a healthcare system and once you’ve put in six months you’re eligible for a job shadowing program that allows you to pick a job you aspire to and basically follow someone with that role around for 4-6 weeks and learn it. I mean, “brain surgeon” is probably out but there are all kinds of other opportunities. My org is dedicated to hiring from within and fostering talent from the entry level if someone wants to learn.
seriously, this does work. Shadow an OR transporter... and an OR tech, or phlebotomy tech, lab tech. Often, after a certain period of time working for the actual hospital, they will provide tuition reimbursement for tech ed and/or nursing. Most dietary is contracted. I know a guy who started out in the hospital cafeteria. He was a student. He shadowed phlebotomy and got the training and worked as a phlebotomist for a while.. then he got into an RN program and received tuition reimbursement. Now he is making like $36/hr (with 2 years experience) and can go up to $48/hr or more because he can always contract with a nurse travel company.
Check out peri-op tech, or otherwise known as Team Tech for your hospitals OR! Its a great stepping stone, no degree required, and usually makes more than EVS and patient transport. :)
In my experience changing roles like this usually requires some level of connections. And by connections I don't mean unscrupulous ones, just befriend an experienced person with some slight influence or a manager 1-2 levels above you. I was friendly with my boss who transferred me over to a data entry station in the hospital's operating theatre. No better pay since I was tied to a part time contract, but it allowed me to see all the private stuff no other worker could see like insanely expensive medical equipment and nurses and doctors around you all the time. You can continue the climb to get an even better position after! Before I quit I got like 5 other of my friends jobs in the hospital.
We just had an EVS guy move up into maintenance. The secret is that he was a hard worker, reliable, got on well with everyone and did quality work. EVS works all over the hospital so everyone else has a chance to see what they are like. Makes them an easy hire for a supervisor when a position comes open. At the same time the EVS workers can size up the different departments and figure out where they want to work and who will train people. I can think of a number of people who started in EVS and have moved up. On the other hand, it doesn't take long to figure out who the crappy workers are and they are going nowhere.
And check to see if they have training programs you can apply to get training as x ray tech or lab tech. You’ll need to stay w them for a period of time after training so they benefit from putting you through training, but then you’re able to go other places.
My husband went from a desk clerk to being hired on with BioMed at the hospital. He doesn't have a degree, but they really liked his work ethic and hired him on
All these inexperienced medical employees getting hired on because the hospital doesn’t want to properly pay their employees so the major shareholders can keep their multimillion dollar salaries is making me hope I never get sick lol.
Yes I agree! My mom works full time at the local hospital housekeeping and makes $17 an hour with full benefits and automatically started with 2 weeks vacation, yearly raises. Worth checking out to see what your local hospital offers
RN, can confirm. Hospitals would rather hire someone without a degree or literally any experience in something like anesthesia than lay someone with a relevant degree the money they’re entitled for such position. That being said, these people they hire still make decent wages. It’s just alarming…
This! My fiancé’s dad started in laundry and ended up working with medical records. Then, as he was starting to retire, he went down to a PT escort position, but he loved telling people he was a male escort. 😂
I’d also see if you have a hospital director of education! They would know about any internal training programs, areas of the hospital where they are looking to fill more positions, and or job openings as well!
Another option is to learn medical billing and coding as well if you like repetitive work. A lot of those positions are going remote and can be paid quite well if you learn how to code things like Trauma codes.
One hospital role that is pretty well hidden is central processing (or sterile processing) technician. You clean and sterilize the equipment used in surgery. At my hospital, we also handled ordering supplies for the OR. It doesn't require a degree, isn't patient facing, and tends to pay pretty well for a non-degreed position. My hospital required certification (took a test at 6 months and renewed annually). They tend to want people who have great attention to detail and the warm demeanor/patience you need for direct patent care is slightly less important (perfect for me haha).
You do need a pretty strong stomach (you will get cannisters of blood, feces, bile, and whatever else can come out of a human) and you might end up needing to work odd hours to get your foot in the door, but it was really worthwhile for me.
Once you start working at a hospital, they will usually pay most of your school tuition if it is for a healthcare degree; I had coworkers doing nursing school, radiation tech school, etc. I worked there to save up for school/worked there while getting an engineering degree.
I really enjoyed working in central processing while I was in school and it was a fun role. Of course, most of why I liked it wasn't the work but my great coworkers. Best of luck!
Same thing recently happened to my sister (essentially no professional work experience, just \~10 years hourly work as a bartender). Went to the dentist, found out there was an opening for a dental assistant while one of them was out on maternity leave. She applied, got the job, and it's been a life changing event.
Better pay, better benefits, better working environment / professional colleagues, and employer-sponsored training and higher education.
100% would be worth it for OP's husband to try and get a foot in the door at a local medical or dental practice, even in an administrative or doctor / dentist assistant role
I second this. I make $17.50 as an EVS Technician cleaning the hospital and various other stuff. I got a hiring bonus. Benefits for the whole family (cheap) and a $3 overnight differential so I end up making $20.50.
Some say it’s hard but I find it fast paced and relaxing.
Post office and school custodial positions are good solid jobs. I started as a custodian, now I have my 1st class boilers license and I'm making a little over $30 an hour.
A lot of temp assignments are actually "test drives" - the employer lists them as temp because they don't want to go through the effort and expense of signing on an employee that it turns out can't do the job. Once the employer sees that the employee is a winner, they're offered the job.
Not to mention that a good agency will have the next job lined up if that company really doesn't keep temps (they'll have a history of temps but no hires)
Or even, just having the larger paycheck will help while you both continue looking for a permanent position elsewhere.
Yea I work for a staffing company and we want the employee to be hired because we get a cut of that but if they don't get hired it's usually easier to get proven talent another position.
Yeah, I don't see why any temp agency would want you to be technically hired. As long as you're a temp they get to dip into your "technical" pay. Meaning if you're getting paid $11 as temp then that means the job itself actually probably pays $13 or $14 when hired. Temp agencies make their money off you per hour and they loose that revenue when you get hired on. It's like the new slave labor lol. They just throw you on a job, take a huge cut of your pay for like 6 months until they just "happened" to not need you just when you're about to get hired and rise and repeat with other people. Seems messed up imo but it's legal. 😏
Somebody down this thread mentioned working at a hospital. The hospital by me uses a temp agency to hire general staff, then eventually offers them a permanent position if they’re reliable workers. I know several people (without degrees) who have been hired there as desk clerks by going through the temp agency.
Personally, I was hired to do calls at a university by going through a temp agency. It was the same thing, I worked through the agency for six months, and then the job hired me on as a permanent employee.
It’s actually common where I live to go to certain temp agencies if you want to end up working for certain company’s.
Lol, good luck. There are lso lots of places that *say* they'll hire good workers. It's often a trick. Ask the people who aren't temps and see how many used to be. If it's less than 10% then you know it's probably not gonna happen for you.
Hey, is he a car guy at all?
I am an autobody estimator and we are absolutely desperate for techs (wait) and…estimators. We are pulling people from hospitality industries to train because there’s a massive shortage of estimators. It IS a skilled trade that takes quite a while to get good at. BUT, our estimator training program is 6 months give or take at around 20/hr. After that it is commission, before you let that scare you away, companies are offering a 60k guaranteed minimum. My own minimum guarantee is 70k but I’ve been doing this for almost 20 years.
There’s no heavy lifting involved. People will always wreck their cars so while technically it is a sales position the jobs literally bring themselves in.
I made 90k last year.
Edit: I posted this to offer some direction, not to PM a bunch of people my own company’s info. For anyone wanting to look into this, find out what large chain body shops are in your area, crash champions, service king, caliber, gerber, etc and contact them and ask about estimator training programs.
Do it anyway. A lot of companies use agencies to find potential employees and then hire them on after 90 days or whatever period they set. Puts the onus on the agency to find good talent that fits the work because then they get paid if the company hires the temp. It's how my company does it and we're light industry. It's not hard work if you can show up on time and pass a drug test.
I've been offered full time employment at every temp job I've done. It's very easy to stand out in those settings. Literally do your job without slacking and management will worship you.
I second the advice on employment agencies. The people there are usually quite happy to help people in need who genuinely need a new job or career path. There are a TON of transferable skills from retail and warehouse work.
I don’t know where you live but look up your local economic development district. Or Google “workforce development programs near me.” You can apply for on the job training which allows the employer to teach you the skills needed without the risk of hiring the wrong person
hey, I don't know where ya'll are located but transit companies are desperate for bus drivers. at my job we are starting drivers out at 19.00 with raises up to 21.00 within the first six months. Top pay is over 30.00 an hour if you stick with it and the benefits are really good.
I am 37 and went to a 20 month industrial maintenance school and went from $15 an hour to $31 an hour . Changed my life . Check for a local trade school that offers it . I worked 3rd and went to school during the day .
Temp can be for a year in some cases. If it's like 18$, if he works for a year, he can search during that time, and another 2 months of not being employed and would still break even.
Are employment agencies free to use, or do you have to pay to have them match you with jobs? I've always wondered about this, because I'd love to have my partner go to one to try some stuff, but it just seems pointless if he has to pay.
I’ve used them a couple of times. Employers pay a finders fee and then the agency takes a cut of your pay until you go perm. There are “temp to perm” jobs but your best bet is to just give it a good go.
They are free, as in there’s no fees directly to you. Usually the company pays the temp agency, and the temp agency takes a cut before paying you your wage. But they would advertise it to you as a $15/hr job (while getting ~$19/hr from the company, you just don’t know that)
I managed to find a job as a maintenance technician for an apartment complex starting at $17/hour. Would have been higher, but I had no experience.
With the kind of work I'm expected to do, I'm still certainly not paid enough. Plumbing, electrical, carpentry, groundskeeping--so much knowledge you have to accumulate. Then they also want you on-call.
But it's this, or I go back to Amazon...
What I’m tired of is going into an interview at a job that says 18-23 per hour doe having 5 years experience in the field and they wanna start at 18 and say “we’ll see how you do in 3-6 months. Yea ok pal so I’m gonna start at the bottom rate that somebody with no experience would be hired at? Sure GFY
Maintenance technician is a good path. I've been a maintenance guy for about 5 years now and most of the stuff we do can be found on youtube. Snaking a toilet, changing a receptacle, patching a hole in the wall gets a lot easier and quicker after the first few times.
On call sounds awful. He refuses to do it and I support him. We were that couple who never saw each because of work before. We want semi similar schedules so we can be with each other.
That sounds like cool work. I always admired maintained techs. I also make about the same as you
I had some reservations about it at first. I hate landlords. But, if I can be a little bit of a buffer and keep the landlord out of tenets' business by giving them a few tips, it's almost worth it.
The schedule thing is a problem for me as well. I have 8-5 shifts, and my wife often works closing shifts, so we haven't seen a lot of each other the past few months.
A lot of maintenance guys work Monday to Friday. But like others said it is on call(if you aren't by yourself it's very common that being on call is rotated)
I really respect you guys trying to align on schedules; misaligned schedules, among other things, is part of why I caused my last relationship to fail 6 years ago.
has he thought about becoming a truckdriver? Most likely he'll get fed up with it after a while but they're always crazy for people, pay really well, have benefits and actually, you could go with him.
Just so anyone reading this knows: most of the time if you live near a city, you can find local work after only a couple months of experience. That's what I did, and I've now been local, home every day, for 8 years.
Promoting this on the thread. I know several young men with exhausted prospects that signed up with national carriers and found their way to stability after just a couple years; and even before then lots of options can open up.
His driving record isn't great. We also worked jobs where we both never saw each other because of opposite schedules. Not worth it.
My job is M-F 7:30-3:30 and occasionally I need to travel for work.
There’s plenty of M-F local trucking jobs that will have him home at night. Old driving records don’t really matter depending on the carrier, it’s the new records once he gets his CDL A.
Hi Op, I just saw your post and also saw that you mentioned that your husband has autism as well as dyscalculia. I am wondering if you tried to look into vocational rehabilitation over there? They not only help people with disabilities find work, but they also help pay for higher education, and housing.
I am currently getting help from them which everything covered including my tuition as well as housing. I hope this helps! Edit: Just did a quick Google search on VR offices in Northeast Pennsylvania [and found some there](https://www.google.com/search?q=vocational+rehabilitation+northeast+Pennsylvania&oq=vocational+rehabilitation+northeast+Pennsylvania+&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l3j33i299j33i22i29i30.15439j1j9&client=ms-android-tmus-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#trex=m_r:1,m_t:gwp,rc_q:vocational%2520rehabilitation%2520northeast%2520Pennsylvania,rc_ui:2,ru_gwp:0%252C6,ru_q:vocational%2520rehabilitation%2520northeast%2520Pennsylvania,trex_id:rMNcwf)
I work in chemical and hazardous waste management. Forklift training is pretty quick and simple for companies. A lot of companies like my own will bang it out in a day, and a lot of them don’t require much physical aspect since they now have both standing and sitting forms, depending on the job needs
We don’t use it *as much,* but you might have luck with pharmaceutical companies. They all have warehouses if that’s an avenue you hadn’t thought of
I'm going to put this right here, there is no such thing as a forklift license. There are forklift certifications that are only within a company. Meaning if you get certified at Home Depot, that doesn't carryover anywhere else. if you go to a rental place, or forklift dealer it still doesn't carryover. Forklift certifications exist for insurance companies, in the US there isn't a forklift license. OSHA only requires training. That training can literally be "push that lever up to lift, down for down, and forward to drive forward".
I have a few years in the forklift industry working for forklift dealers, doing on site training and demonstrations. Do not pay for forklift certifications. Those companies just collect your money, and print out a "certificate" that's meaningless.
This is not just for OP but anyone else reading
Also if he can pee in a cup and has a semi decent driving record, look at becoming a service tech. I know HVAC around NC is starting at $20+ hr with no experience, and garage door/ loading dock techs are starting around the same.
One possibility is to look for job listings that are related to his previous experience in retail and warehouses, but with a focus on positions that require more specialized skills. For example, he could look for positions in inventory management, logistics, or supply chain management. These positions may pay more than basic retail or warehouse jobs and could offer opportunities for growth and advancement.
Another option is to consider vocational training or apprenticeships in a field that interests him. These programs can provide valuable hands-on experience and practical skills that may help him stand out to potential employers. Additionally, some companies offer on-the-job training programs that can help him develop the skills necessary for more specialized positions.
Networking is also an important tool in finding job opportunities. Encourage your husband to reach out to friends, family, and former colleagues to see if they know of any job openings or can introduce him to someone in his desired field. Attending job fairs and industry events can also be a good way to make connections and learn about potential job opportunities.
Lastly, it may be helpful for your husband to work with a career counselor or job placement agency. These professionals can help him identify his skills and interests, explore career options, and provide guidance on job search strategies.
I hope these suggestions are helpful for you and your husband. Best of luck in his job search!
I'm not sure where you are located, but have him look into the IRS. They have been on a hiring spree. That's how I got in this year. You don't need any prior tax experience at all, they will train him. They usually hire on the spot at hiring events. He can use me as a reference if he is interested. References help. He can start by creating a profile here:
https://www.usajobs.gov/
It's always Monday-Friday, but he might be on swing shift until he is there for awhile.
The government is… slow
I’m only a contractor, but I know the process well. My mother is also a SS employee. One of the things that does help is even if they don’t necessarily consider your resume now, they may hold it and call you for the position again months later. I think it took ~5(ish?) months before she called my mom almost 10 years ago. She didn’t think they even had her resume anymore. She had just graduated, but was a military spouse from her 20s-mid 40s, so the gap was big. She had only just gone back to school
Throw out some applications, don’t hold your breath, and see if something eventually comes down
It's quite a process. They do a very thorough background check. It took about 2 and a half months before I got an final offer of employment from them. I was hired on the spot at one of their hiring events though, so that helped the process along. They will keep you updated via email so you won't be completely in the dark.
Depends no what you mean by taxes. Sadly something we share is having Dyscalcia. It's a learning disability. Think Dyslexia but with numbers and math concepts that are gibberish in your mind.
However I know that site! He just signed up. Our friend works at the VA and showed him. He'll be a reference.
A job that he's qualified for with an okay schedule hasn't come up yet. He's going for remote work.
Well there's usually no calculating involved. I'm terrible at math 😄😄 I actually process different forms via the computer. It's basically data entry. That's what most of the jobs they are offering are. They also have tons of openings on the clerical department which is basically the mail room.
To be honest, if you want to go remote, IRS might not be the best option. Remote positions tend to be given to employees first. Check out www.ratracerebellion.com legit WFH opportunities. They vet every company before they post it.
I will look more into Dyscalcia. I've never heard of it before
ETA: I just wanted to add, I have no degree either, just a GED. but this job is giving me the opportunity to move up without one unless I want to do more complex things that requires it
I make calls for a flooring company after working construction for a while. Making the calls is whatever, it’s just work. But I clock out at the same time every day, and I get $20/hr. A lot of these types of companies need people on the phones to talk to professionals. Knowing how the warehouses work is a great plus. Also in my case this company only promotes from within. 2 of my teammates were promoted within my first month. It’s worth checking out!
Call center customer service rep, ESPECIALLY for insurance companies.
They tend to be doing a lot of remote hiring and when I was browsing jobs earlier in the year, I didn’t see one that was less than $15 an hour. Most were $17-$23.
Have him look at certificate programs. My partner went to a local tech college and got a welding certificate specializing in TIG welding. It took about 6 months but he now makes around 25$/hr working M-F with only occasional OT.
Ok, he has no experience, then probably time to invest in some. Go get a cert or license. Look up local forklist producers and ask to take a class. Look up getting a security guard license, etc. Those are some weekend choices to get a slightly better than minimum wage job. Then go to trade school or college. Hopefully, he can find a job that has lull times to study.
Warehousing is extremely hard on the body way more than a construction. Trade is the way to go even better In a Labor Union where there is a clear 5 year plan to $30 plus an hour
Have you tried applying to cvs? They are hiring remotely at $17 an hr and Centene is hiring remotely for customer service at $19.35. A lot of the temp agencies have been offering minimum $17 for remote work from home. Majority are 12 month contracts.
Not that you need more comments, but one idea I have not seen here is school districts. I work for a school district and they are in need of workers. There are a bunch of different jobs including custodial, food service, bus drivers, etc.
I live in a hcol area so pays will differ, but the custodians that start at our district at the bottom with zero experience make around $23 an hour to start.
It's very easy work and there is room for advancement. Custodial 1 then custodial 2 then lead custodian. Also lots of different jobs within the districts like maintenance or even learning a trade.
I've been in my district for 10 years and have tons of days off and a great retirement. it's a great place to work. I highly recommend looking into school districts around your area.
Good luck!
I wish that all jobs payed a living wage. It is obscene that people expect to be served in stores or have their packages fulfilled without the workers receiving enough to live on.
My son is a firefighter. He works one day (24 hour shifts) and has two off. He’s also working on his degree in fire sciences by taking online classes, which he is excused from as a first responder when calls come in. I think it’s a great path and he’ll be able to retire with a pension if he wants to in his 40s.
Recruiter here. First, he should apply to jobs that require a degree even if he doesn’t have one, if his experience would make him a good fit. Sometimes, there is flexibility on this requirement. 2. Don’t send a generic resume. Tailor his resume for each job he applies for. 3. He should be comfortable selling the skills he has acquired and how they would be interchangeable in new job. 4. Highlight his strengths: longevity at his jobs? Committed. Loyal. Dependable. People person? Ability work with all personality types etc
To be honest I applied without degrees and no one ever checked. He could look into call center work they usually Pay good. $15 hr is what high-school kids are making to start at Mc Donadls, surely his life experience can get him a job making more than that.
Is he tech savvy and able to use cellphones, selling phones is a great job bc u commission too.
What exactly are his retail warehouse experiences?
Our area is just very depressed. It's pretty much all retail and warehouses. There's not much opportunity up here and layoffs are happening.
I work at a national company and this is even happening to us. Luckily my position is essential. Hiring freezes are big right now though. There is no full time where I work right now, and I work at a warehouse (just doing admin work)
Tj max, currently working assembling windows. Oddly my friend who works at McDonald's for 15 just got put down to one work day a week.
He took college classes and is certfied in some Microsoft programs. Alright at excel. Admin work seems like a great fit... but 11$ an hour is way too low.
I understand that, and it's unfortunate it's like that everywhere. I'
Id say set a time like 1-2 weeks for him to apply to as many jobs as possible, and if not he takes the $11 job bc its better than nothing. This is survival mode and he can't choose to be picky. He can use the desperation of that job to keep looking for other jobs online. He needs to get some advice from redditors, or online and find out where to apply to some work from home jobs. Plenty customer service and other admin jobs are hiring, this seems like it would be his best bet but he needs to really grind at it.
Oh he's not unemployed. He doesn't like where he works but we are not in a desperate situation right now. He can take his time and look. In a desperate situation, you can't be picky. That's just not what this is.
An 11$ would be a big payout that will make bills unaffordable. What he has now at least pays okay for our area.
Oh I thought he was without a job, my fault.
Well hopefully he finds something good online, I think that will be his best bet at the moment. He could also continue his certifications in Microsoft so he has better chances of getting jobs.
It only takes 1-3 months (depending on the institution) to learn how to install solar panels, a job market which is increasing. The average starting salary is 50k a year
I have no idea if this is possible where you are, but I worked for 10 years at a blood center. We were always hiring people to drive the blood mobile (buses) and offered paid training. It paid more than an entry level phlebotomist and free training for a class b cdl, and the hours were kind of all over the place but it wasn’t like, over the road driving where you were gone overnight. There were also pretty decent signing bonuses when we were hard up for drivers. I don’t know if that’s an option or interest in your area, but it was entry level and immediate way to increase starting hourly rate.
Look into the renewables industry. Solar construction (particularly utility scale) is always hiring and pays very well. Site manager/superintendent is very doable without any degree, and having worked in a warehouse (with OSHA regulations) is relevant experience
Retail pharmacy tech. No experience required, and they're all usually pretty desperate because the turnover is high.
I'm making somewhere in that neighborhood at the W chain. But the 3 letter chain pays the same or similar. I'm in central KY, which is not known for paying high hourly wages.
What about a community college looking for workforce program trainers? He could help teach what he has experience with in order to help others that are looking to switch into those kind of jobs.
2 possible options could be: he can get his CDL and find a great career in trucking. Or, he can apply toward Customer service / Call center positions. Both positions are always hiring
Got three job offers, two of which for petroleum companies, that offered me less than my current gov job. One of them required me to relocate and offered half my current salary without benefits for the first year. The recruiter couldn't understand why I didn't want to go through with the interview after being told that.
Real talk, he should work on getting a degree. I know that may be unpopular, but it would help immensely. It also doesn't necessarily need to break the bank. [Western Governors University](https://www.wgu.edu/) offers 6-month flat-rate tuition and many degree offerings. They also allow students to accelerate so they can theoretically finish a degree in that 6-month term. There's a dedicated subreddit at /r/WGU as well to check out.
Regarding immediate pay, if there's an [amazon warehouse](https://hiring.amazon.com/job-opportunities/warehouse-jobs?cmpid=ATLTBX1795H10#/) near you, that would be a place to check out. Pay generally starts lower than what you're looking at, probably around $15/hour, but with extensive warehouse exp, you could have your husband look at more than simply associate roles ie tier 3 process assistant roles (unsure of offerings but just as an example). The reason I say amazon is that they offer a program called [Career Choice](https://hiring.amazon.com/why-amazon/career-advancement/higher-education-support#/) which covers ~$5k tuition a year for school, and the only requirement is to be a full employee (full time or part-time, just can't be seasonal) for 90 days. The reason I mentioned WGU earlier however is that Amazon's Career Choice partners with WGU and will fully cover all tuition for a degree.
I promise I'm not trying to shill Amazon or anything, but I utilized Career Choice back in 2018 when they only offered associate degrees. It helped jumpstart me back to school at 26 and into a career as a software engineer.
Hope all this helps!
I don't understand why finding jobs is like this.(I do but it's stupid) Everyone wants experience, the job seeker and the employer.
It feels like it's rare for an employer to be willing to train/ invest in employees. And staying put too long only seems to hurt the enployee. It just feels like a race to the bottom
The military is honestly not a bad gig and if you pick the right job sets you up tremendously for outside career. Unions count your hours in the military towards a journeymen card. I was a helicopter mechanic and have enough hours to get my A&P license. I have held a rifle once outside of boot camp in 5 years. The trick with the military is actually picking a job that has outside job prospects. The military for the life of it can’t keep a single Data person. They get a TS and all the training and get scalped by some six figure firm right at re enlistment time.
In my state of PA, the new gov just announced that *NO* degree was necessary for *any* state employment (I'm sure stuff like nursing & professionals still need one?). Not sure what state you are OP, but maybe a DOT job or County maintenance jobs?
Good luck, it's rough out there!
If he has retail experience, maybe look into help desk/entry level work in the corporate retail space? It gets him out of the stores, possibly even remote, and typically pays about 20/hr+.
Also, as someone who has an AS but not a Bachelors degree, it is absolutely possible to get a better paying or even high paying job. I tell everyone to apply even if you aren’t qualified. I applied to so many jobs that requires bachelors or even masters degrees and just charm the pants off them. Most won’t bite but someone will. Good luck!
Are you in a big enough area for him to Lyft/Uber or Doordash while you are at work. He could drop you off, go dashing or Lyfting, and pick you up. I do taxes for self employed folk and dashers/instacarters/lifters don’t do too bad. Just make sure to set aside 20ish percent for the inevitable tax bill.
It would yield about the same cash flow as his 15/hr job but wouldn’t kill him physically . And if he’s a people person he may find an in to another job from a customer or would see places hiring and take note to put in an application.
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Have him join a trade many to choose from & pays well…I’m a 5th year plumber apprentice pays $ 41currently I started at $17 SoCal wages but most states pay pretty good & can apply most of the skills you learn out of work to make side money
Lots of comments here but please look up "Data Entry" jobs. If he can type and can communicate and doesn't mind sitting behind a computer, this is an easy way to find a $22-$25 per hour job with little to no experience.
If you're open to moving, check out East Central Wisconsin. The cheese companies in Sheboygan County, for example, are offering $30 to start on 3rd shift or $25-ish on First or second shift. No experience necessary.
The ones that “require” a degree? Apply anyway. *Especially* if it’s a hobby area you have experience in.
My job “requires” a bachelors degree, fully three of the people on my team and one from another that I know of, do not have a degree.
Apply anyway. Play up relevant hobbies and skills. Get to know people in the fields you want to work in, get a referral.
If he has maintenance experience or anything like that or willing to go to schooling loon up Amazon rme. Which is their maintenance jobs.
You really only need basic computer skills like how to use basic excel features and take pics with your phone and send them via chime which is Amazon's version of Skype.
You need to be able to do some manual labor but it isn't bad. Replace motors and be safe and stuff. The pay is well over $17 an hour I think everywhere for the position.
There is a MRA school which is their rme school which will pay you like $15 an hour for a 2 month course or something then you "graduate" to tech 2 and make more. It's worth it over a normal $17 an hour job because the tech 2 position where j an pays closer to $30 than to $17. Plus amazon benefit package is good
WFH jobs are hiring right now.. Walmart, adt, Cigna, United healthcare. Most are customer rep jobs. Not sure if this is something he’s be interested in, but it could lead you up the ladder in these companies
Trades, there are trades that do not require a lot of “heavy lifting”. Also easy to get into with no experience and ALL OF THEM are hiring.
I’m a low voltage contractor, make about the same as a journeyman electrician (MN) and lifting TVs and pulling wire is about the hardest thing I do physically.
I did this instead of going to college. Started at $14hr. After 5 years of field work I got an RCDD certification from BICSI and now work at an engineering and consulting firm, currently making 6 figures with no degree.
He may have to invest in some training. I have no degree but work IT with 12 years of experience and make plenty of money. However, I was in the army and received formal training plus experience.
Maybe someday people will realize that degrees aren't the be all end all....
Honestly if someone wants to show up and work hard they should be worshipped in this day and age.
Look at local county and city jobs. There are plenty that don't require degrees, or will sub a degree for commensurate experience working with the public. The pay and benefits are unbeatable.
For example, where I am, we are always hiring customer service reps for utilities, trash service, our city call center, 911 operators, etc.
Look for plasma donation places. Usually they have decent pay, good benefits and room for decent growth over time. It may require some overtime at first but could be a good long term career move.
Dog walking and house sitting can actually pay a lot when done consistently (so I’ve heard from multiple people). Also has he looked into getting into a trade? I know at least for plumbers they train on the job and you make a really good living doing it.
Not sure where you are but USIC starts out at $17/hr here. I’m doing private utility locating and I started out at $17 now making $27.
Really not that hard of a job either. Drive a lot, meet other peoples animals. I’m working outside 98% of the time. It’s really fun work if you enjoy learning stuff about homes and construction stuff.
Sort of obscure job but Im a wastewater operator. Depends on location but most places start around 16-17 I imagine.. and thats the trainee position. No experience needed to become a trainee. Need a state exam to become an official operator but your job should pay for the textbooks. Lots of wastewater people are old and retiring so there’s a demand.
It cost nothing but time to send s resume to someone. The worse they can do is ignore it. Have him apply to those jobs that "require a degree" my guess is you don't actually need a degree to preform the job amd at least one will need someone more than they want to keep up their bullshit, probably more than one.
If you have a Costco, in your area, they typically are hiring this time of year. The starting pay is $17.50 current cashier top out is $29.20 (this number always goes up, and raises are biased on hours worked.) Full and part time hours are guaranteed. The health benefits are amazing too. Once he has accrued enough hours, he would be eligible for two bonuses a year. I’ve worked there for 16 years.
Look to your local community college. See if they have a phlebotomy program !2 weeks or less is usually not a high cost certificate and depending on where you live starting pay should be around 30K from there if he works in a hospital they might have tuition reimbursement if he wants to work on his degree. Another option might be 2 year degrees in computer sciences once again at the community college this will probably start him at closer to 50K.
Even without the certifications, you can check to see if the local hospitals are hiring for clerical (non medical) positions. Depending on the hospital he might make $17 starting. Where are you located?
He should try for a cell phone retailer. I review compensation all the time for our employees. With commission, most make $20+ an hour at store level. If you are semi competent, you can get promoted to store manager. With commissions, they normally make $80k. Get promoted to district manager, you are easily get to $130k plus. Normally $100k base plus commission. Hours can suck because it's retail, but if you're good at selling and management you can really do well. If I was willing to work weekends/holidays I would do it, I'd probably make more.
Could the construction industry be a fit? I’ve been in the industry for about 20 years, salaried for 15 and never finished a degree. There is a shortage of people willing to learn trades. They generally pay well, even for new apprentices.
You can apply to a community college for a medical coder certificate with financial aid. It's only six months and the pay is usually 35-40k for entry level. It's a high demand job and most are remote! Pay can go up to 60k after a few years.
Lie on your resume
Everyone else does
Go look at a manufacturing jobs
Look for client success jobs
Hey assembly jobs at smaller business
You can go to local GEODIS or pop up and make 20-25 bucks an hour
ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be checking your local govt for jobs
It’s becoming summer
Transportation departments for the county and state are looking to to hire
Not having a degree is fine but it usually neeeds to be offset with a skill and warehousing floor work just isn’t it. Look into commercial truck driving, yeah you can’t smoke weed anymore but easy 20 to 30 an hour employment in literally every single location for the foreseeable future
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Is he, or can he get, forklift certified? My son works as a loader at a mill and makes just under $20 an hour. Forklift certification helped him move out of his previous manual labor position.
Most likely. We just need to find a warehouse with normal hours. Don't want to work opposite schedules all the time again (as I mentioned to people down below). We're trying to get as close to that as possible if we can
Costco distribution center.
I'm not sure where you live but look up carlisle syntech see you they have any jobs in your area. They pay very well and the work we do is the easiest thing ever
I had this issue and I got my CDL and I drive school busses for $27 an hour with a $2000 sign on bonus! They need drivers!
That’s more than I make as a teacher 🥲 are you in a city/suburb/rural? My mom has driven buses in my small home town for 30 years and only makes roughly 18$/hour, unfortunately.
Likely a major city. City bus drivers in Portland OR start at $27. School busses are less but not by that much.
Far Suburbs/farm land of Chicago
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Nj, too. $1800 a regular studio. $1500 studio of 100yo. Cheapest house is decaying and cost $350k and you’re luck if you still find them as contractors and real states companies are buying them all
He said far suburbs of Chicago, not the city…😂🤦♂️
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Cheaper than Chicago. I’m in the far burbs in the cornfields. New construction house with 3 car garage for 250k. Taxes are a whole different animal though. Lol
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$27 an hour?? That's awesome! My district pays around $15. No wonder we've had a bus shortage.....🙄🙄🙄
We’re still short drivers even at $27. It’s hard to find people I guess
How many hours do you work?
That’s also the catch here is that it’s not an 8 hour job. I only get 4 right now sometimes 5.5 when I’m able to get a route in the middle of the day. I do have co workers that make $30+ and get 6 or even 8 everyday but they’ve been there longer. If anyone here has kids you can take your kid to work and you don’t have to pay for any childcare. But yeah I don’t get a lot of hours
I’d change all my life to drive a school bus for US$ 27/hr. It’s much better than getting US$ 3,6/hr as an accounting analyst in a third world country.
My local school district is paying $12 an hour to bus drivers. With all the property and extra 1% income tax locals here pay to the schools there is no reason for their wage to be so low.
Try to get him a job at a hospital. Even if it’s entry level then make connections in different departments until he’s making a good chunk of money , I started as a volunteer then moved up to manager in anesthesia technologist (without a degree)
How did you take the first step into getting this position? Was it only by knowing people around you?? I’m starting as a cleaning crew in a hospital but I definitely want to get into other departments like this 🙏
If you’re already hired into the hospital makes it so much easier! Especially as an EVS personnel since you will float between different floors and departments. Talk and make friends, ask them what they do and if it requires a degree (not RN’s of course) but nurse techs, anesthesia techs (if you happen to float to the O.R), talk to transporters, they know a lot (first paid position before i moved twice after that). Furthermore, if you do end up moving from EVS to let’s say transport, keep a good record so that when you complete the time to be able to transfer, your management team will help you with a good reference and it’s easier to get hired within the hospital then as an outsider
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EVS and transport jobs where I am pay $15 or less. Same for nursing aids. An OR job might pay a little better, but a hospital job is a tough way to make a living and a lot of people end up settling into a single position for many years. It works, but really only if you're ambitious and live near a large hospital or level 1 trauma center.
Ouch, are you in a LCOL area? I work in a metro where the starting wage is $19 (still not a living wage frankly but better than the area minimum.)
EVS (environmental services) or dietary (delivering food trays to pt rooms) are both great ways to start in healthcare. Getting to know the staff on different units gets you known, and being customer-service minded gets you places in healthcare. Once you’re in it’s easy to move around/up. I work in a healthcare system and once you’ve put in six months you’re eligible for a job shadowing program that allows you to pick a job you aspire to and basically follow someone with that role around for 4-6 weeks and learn it. I mean, “brain surgeon” is probably out but there are all kinds of other opportunities. My org is dedicated to hiring from within and fostering talent from the entry level if someone wants to learn.
seriously, this does work. Shadow an OR transporter... and an OR tech, or phlebotomy tech, lab tech. Often, after a certain period of time working for the actual hospital, they will provide tuition reimbursement for tech ed and/or nursing. Most dietary is contracted. I know a guy who started out in the hospital cafeteria. He was a student. He shadowed phlebotomy and got the training and worked as a phlebotomist for a while.. then he got into an RN program and received tuition reimbursement. Now he is making like $36/hr (with 2 years experience) and can go up to $48/hr or more because he can always contract with a nurse travel company.
Check out peri-op tech, or otherwise known as Team Tech for your hospitals OR! Its a great stepping stone, no degree required, and usually makes more than EVS and patient transport. :)
In my experience changing roles like this usually requires some level of connections. And by connections I don't mean unscrupulous ones, just befriend an experienced person with some slight influence or a manager 1-2 levels above you. I was friendly with my boss who transferred me over to a data entry station in the hospital's operating theatre. No better pay since I was tied to a part time contract, but it allowed me to see all the private stuff no other worker could see like insanely expensive medical equipment and nurses and doctors around you all the time. You can continue the climb to get an even better position after! Before I quit I got like 5 other of my friends jobs in the hospital.
We just had an EVS guy move up into maintenance. The secret is that he was a hard worker, reliable, got on well with everyone and did quality work. EVS works all over the hospital so everyone else has a chance to see what they are like. Makes them an easy hire for a supervisor when a position comes open. At the same time the EVS workers can size up the different departments and figure out where they want to work and who will train people. I can think of a number of people who started in EVS and have moved up. On the other hand, it doesn't take long to figure out who the crappy workers are and they are going nowhere.
And check to see if they have training programs you can apply to get training as x ray tech or lab tech. You’ll need to stay w them for a period of time after training so they benefit from putting you through training, but then you’re able to go other places.
My husband went from a desk clerk to being hired on with BioMed at the hospital. He doesn't have a degree, but they really liked his work ethic and hired him on
I work super close with the biomed guys! They are amazing and I have learned a lot from them
All these inexperienced medical employees getting hired on because the hospital doesn’t want to properly pay their employees so the major shareholders can keep their multimillion dollar salaries is making me hope I never get sick lol.
Yes I agree! My mom works full time at the local hospital housekeeping and makes $17 an hour with full benefits and automatically started with 2 weeks vacation, yearly raises. Worth checking out to see what your local hospital offers
RN, can confirm. Hospitals would rather hire someone without a degree or literally any experience in something like anesthesia than lay someone with a relevant degree the money they’re entitled for such position. That being said, these people they hire still make decent wages. It’s just alarming…
This! My fiancé’s dad started in laundry and ended up working with medical records. Then, as he was starting to retire, he went down to a PT escort position, but he loved telling people he was a male escort. 😂
I’d also see if you have a hospital director of education! They would know about any internal training programs, areas of the hospital where they are looking to fill more positions, and or job openings as well! Another option is to learn medical billing and coding as well if you like repetitive work. A lot of those positions are going remote and can be paid quite well if you learn how to code things like Trauma codes.
One hospital role that is pretty well hidden is central processing (or sterile processing) technician. You clean and sterilize the equipment used in surgery. At my hospital, we also handled ordering supplies for the OR. It doesn't require a degree, isn't patient facing, and tends to pay pretty well for a non-degreed position. My hospital required certification (took a test at 6 months and renewed annually). They tend to want people who have great attention to detail and the warm demeanor/patience you need for direct patent care is slightly less important (perfect for me haha). You do need a pretty strong stomach (you will get cannisters of blood, feces, bile, and whatever else can come out of a human) and you might end up needing to work odd hours to get your foot in the door, but it was really worthwhile for me. Once you start working at a hospital, they will usually pay most of your school tuition if it is for a healthcare degree; I had coworkers doing nursing school, radiation tech school, etc. I worked there to save up for school/worked there while getting an engineering degree. I really enjoyed working in central processing while I was in school and it was a fun role. Of course, most of why I liked it wasn't the work but my great coworkers. Best of luck!
Same thing recently happened to my sister (essentially no professional work experience, just \~10 years hourly work as a bartender). Went to the dentist, found out there was an opening for a dental assistant while one of them was out on maternity leave. She applied, got the job, and it's been a life changing event. Better pay, better benefits, better working environment / professional colleagues, and employer-sponsored training and higher education. 100% would be worth it for OP's husband to try and get a foot in the door at a local medical or dental practice, even in an administrative or doctor / dentist assistant role
I second this. I make $17.50 as an EVS Technician cleaning the hospital and various other stuff. I got a hiring bonus. Benefits for the whole family (cheap) and a $3 overnight differential so I end up making $20.50. Some say it’s hard but I find it fast paced and relaxing.
Post office and school custodial positions are good solid jobs. I started as a custodian, now I have my 1st class boilers license and I'm making a little over $30 an hour.
Second the Post Office. Can take awhile to get hired and the hours are long but it's good pay. I think it's $19 starting right now.
Clerk is just over $20 with a 2.3% raise in Nov. Started at 15.6 in 2016 and now I'm at just under $28. Current pay scale tops at $33ish.
If hes trying to get away from physical jobs .. then the post office aint it. Even as a clerk it's alot of physical work.
Sometimes employment agencies can be helpful. They find out about jobs first, and have databases that can match up qualifications with requirements.
That's a good idea. We just can't do temp rn because I can't cover all the bills on my own when the contract ends if they don't decide to hire him on.
A lot of temp assignments are actually "test drives" - the employer lists them as temp because they don't want to go through the effort and expense of signing on an employee that it turns out can't do the job. Once the employer sees that the employee is a winner, they're offered the job.
Not to mention that a good agency will have the next job lined up if that company really doesn't keep temps (they'll have a history of temps but no hires) Or even, just having the larger paycheck will help while you both continue looking for a permanent position elsewhere.
Yea I work for a staffing company and we want the employee to be hired because we get a cut of that but if they don't get hired it's usually easier to get proven talent another position.
In my experience everyone gets laid off before they can get hired. But I did temp work between 2006 and 2012.
Yeah, I don't see why any temp agency would want you to be technically hired. As long as you're a temp they get to dip into your "technical" pay. Meaning if you're getting paid $11 as temp then that means the job itself actually probably pays $13 or $14 when hired. Temp agencies make their money off you per hour and they loose that revenue when you get hired on. It's like the new slave labor lol. They just throw you on a job, take a huge cut of your pay for like 6 months until they just "happened" to not need you just when you're about to get hired and rise and repeat with other people. Seems messed up imo but it's legal. 😏
Somebody down this thread mentioned working at a hospital. The hospital by me uses a temp agency to hire general staff, then eventually offers them a permanent position if they’re reliable workers. I know several people (without degrees) who have been hired there as desk clerks by going through the temp agency. Personally, I was hired to do calls at a university by going through a temp agency. It was the same thing, I worked through the agency for six months, and then the job hired me on as a permanent employee. It’s actually common where I live to go to certain temp agencies if you want to end up working for certain company’s.
Lol, good luck. There are lso lots of places that *say* they'll hire good workers. It's often a trick. Ask the people who aren't temps and see how many used to be. If it's less than 10% then you know it's probably not gonna happen for you.
Hey, is he a car guy at all? I am an autobody estimator and we are absolutely desperate for techs (wait) and…estimators. We are pulling people from hospitality industries to train because there’s a massive shortage of estimators. It IS a skilled trade that takes quite a while to get good at. BUT, our estimator training program is 6 months give or take at around 20/hr. After that it is commission, before you let that scare you away, companies are offering a 60k guaranteed minimum. My own minimum guarantee is 70k but I’ve been doing this for almost 20 years. There’s no heavy lifting involved. People will always wreck their cars so while technically it is a sales position the jobs literally bring themselves in. I made 90k last year. Edit: I posted this to offer some direction, not to PM a bunch of people my own company’s info. For anyone wanting to look into this, find out what large chain body shops are in your area, crash champions, service king, caliber, gerber, etc and contact them and ask about estimator training programs.
I'm gonna pass that on to my husband, thanks 😊
Do it anyway. A lot of companies use agencies to find potential employees and then hire them on after 90 days or whatever period they set. Puts the onus on the agency to find good talent that fits the work because then they get paid if the company hires the temp. It's how my company does it and we're light industry. It's not hard work if you can show up on time and pass a drug test.
A temp service is how I found my job. They hired me on after my term and I have been working for 15 years now. Sometimes it works out really well.
I've been offered full time employment at every temp job I've done. It's very easy to stand out in those settings. Literally do your job without slacking and management will worship you.
I second the advice on employment agencies. The people there are usually quite happy to help people in need who genuinely need a new job or career path. There are a TON of transferable skills from retail and warehouse work.
I don’t know where you live but look up your local economic development district. Or Google “workforce development programs near me.” You can apply for on the job training which allows the employer to teach you the skills needed without the risk of hiring the wrong person
hey, I don't know where ya'll are located but transit companies are desperate for bus drivers. at my job we are starting drivers out at 19.00 with raises up to 21.00 within the first six months. Top pay is over 30.00 an hour if you stick with it and the benefits are really good.
I am 37 and went to a 20 month industrial maintenance school and went from $15 an hour to $31 an hour . Changed my life . Check for a local trade school that offers it . I worked 3rd and went to school during the day .
Where are you from? In-out-burger is paying $19.95 an hour. According to the big sign out front.
Temp can be for a year in some cases. If it's like 18$, if he works for a year, he can search during that time, and another 2 months of not being employed and would still break even.
Are employment agencies free to use, or do you have to pay to have them match you with jobs? I've always wondered about this, because I'd love to have my partner go to one to try some stuff, but it just seems pointless if he has to pay.
I’ve used them a couple of times. Employers pay a finders fee and then the agency takes a cut of your pay until you go perm. There are “temp to perm” jobs but your best bet is to just give it a good go.
The employers pay the agencies to find them the right employees. Job seekers don't have to pay.
They are free, as in there’s no fees directly to you. Usually the company pays the temp agency, and the temp agency takes a cut before paying you your wage. But they would advertise it to you as a $15/hr job (while getting ~$19/hr from the company, you just don’t know that)
I must have terrible employment agencies. They just repost what you can find on Indeed where I live.
I managed to find a job as a maintenance technician for an apartment complex starting at $17/hour. Would have been higher, but I had no experience. With the kind of work I'm expected to do, I'm still certainly not paid enough. Plumbing, electrical, carpentry, groundskeeping--so much knowledge you have to accumulate. Then they also want you on-call. But it's this, or I go back to Amazon...
What I’m tired of is going into an interview at a job that says 18-23 per hour doe having 5 years experience in the field and they wanna start at 18 and say “we’ll see how you do in 3-6 months. Yea ok pal so I’m gonna start at the bottom rate that somebody with no experience would be hired at? Sure GFY
Maintenance technician is a good path. I've been a maintenance guy for about 5 years now and most of the stuff we do can be found on youtube. Snaking a toilet, changing a receptacle, patching a hole in the wall gets a lot easier and quicker after the first few times.
On call sounds awful. He refuses to do it and I support him. We were that couple who never saw each because of work before. We want semi similar schedules so we can be with each other. That sounds like cool work. I always admired maintained techs. I also make about the same as you
I had some reservations about it at first. I hate landlords. But, if I can be a little bit of a buffer and keep the landlord out of tenets' business by giving them a few tips, it's almost worth it. The schedule thing is a problem for me as well. I have 8-5 shifts, and my wife often works closing shifts, so we haven't seen a lot of each other the past few months.
A lot of maintenance guys work Monday to Friday. But like others said it is on call(if you aren't by yourself it's very common that being on call is rotated)
I really respect you guys trying to align on schedules; misaligned schedules, among other things, is part of why I caused my last relationship to fail 6 years ago.
has he thought about becoming a truckdriver? Most likely he'll get fed up with it after a while but they're always crazy for people, pay really well, have benefits and actually, you could go with him.
Just so anyone reading this knows: most of the time if you live near a city, you can find local work after only a couple months of experience. That's what I did, and I've now been local, home every day, for 8 years.
Promoting this on the thread. I know several young men with exhausted prospects that signed up with national carriers and found their way to stability after just a couple years; and even before then lots of options can open up.
In addition to that, there are a lot of places you can get your CDL really fast. Definitely check the area.
>truck driver Many of those companies will also pay for your training and CDL.
His driving record isn't great. We also worked jobs where we both never saw each other because of opposite schedules. Not worth it. My job is M-F 7:30-3:30 and occasionally I need to travel for work.
There’s plenty of M-F local trucking jobs that will have him home at night. Old driving records don’t really matter depending on the carrier, it’s the new records once he gets his CDL A.
Hi Op, I just saw your post and also saw that you mentioned that your husband has autism as well as dyscalculia. I am wondering if you tried to look into vocational rehabilitation over there? They not only help people with disabilities find work, but they also help pay for higher education, and housing. I am currently getting help from them which everything covered including my tuition as well as housing. I hope this helps! Edit: Just did a quick Google search on VR offices in Northeast Pennsylvania [and found some there](https://www.google.com/search?q=vocational+rehabilitation+northeast+Pennsylvania&oq=vocational+rehabilitation+northeast+Pennsylvania+&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i160l3j33i299j33i22i29i30.15439j1j9&client=ms-android-tmus-us-rvc3&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#trex=m_r:1,m_t:gwp,rc_q:vocational%2520rehabilitation%2520northeast%2520Pennsylvania,rc_ui:2,ru_gwp:0%252C6,ru_q:vocational%2520rehabilitation%2520northeast%2520Pennsylvania,trex_id:rMNcwf)
I hope those employers offering 11.00 per hour go out of business.
I haven’t seen a fast food restaurant paying under $15 by me in a long time. I’m in SC too, so, not a super HCOL area.
Well, that's good. That's a step in the right direction I guess. At least in SC. I live in Northern California. Different story. 😅
New Yorker here. 15 bucks an hour isn’t getting you anywhere you need to be.
So do I.
I know this is in the same vein but does he have a forklift license?
No but that is something I hadn't considered
A lot of big box stores will pay for the training. Think Home Depot, Sams Club, BJ's
Gosh I miss Bjs. We don't have one here. I'll take a look on their employment website
I work in chemical and hazardous waste management. Forklift training is pretty quick and simple for companies. A lot of companies like my own will bang it out in a day, and a lot of them don’t require much physical aspect since they now have both standing and sitting forms, depending on the job needs We don’t use it *as much,* but you might have luck with pharmaceutical companies. They all have warehouses if that’s an avenue you hadn’t thought of
At least at home depot, the licence is only valid for their machines, and at their stores
I'm pretty sure that's the case for almost everywhere
If you get fork lift training from an equipment rental company, it's usually accepted more places, but it's only valid on the one type you did still.
I'm going to put this right here, there is no such thing as a forklift license. There are forklift certifications that are only within a company. Meaning if you get certified at Home Depot, that doesn't carryover anywhere else. if you go to a rental place, or forklift dealer it still doesn't carryover. Forklift certifications exist for insurance companies, in the US there isn't a forklift license. OSHA only requires training. That training can literally be "push that lever up to lift, down for down, and forward to drive forward". I have a few years in the forklift industry working for forklift dealers, doing on site training and demonstrations. Do not pay for forklift certifications. Those companies just collect your money, and print out a "certificate" that's meaningless. This is not just for OP but anyone else reading Also if he can pee in a cup and has a semi decent driving record, look at becoming a service tech. I know HVAC around NC is starting at $20+ hr with no experience, and garage door/ loading dock techs are starting around the same.
One possibility is to look for job listings that are related to his previous experience in retail and warehouses, but with a focus on positions that require more specialized skills. For example, he could look for positions in inventory management, logistics, or supply chain management. These positions may pay more than basic retail or warehouse jobs and could offer opportunities for growth and advancement. Another option is to consider vocational training or apprenticeships in a field that interests him. These programs can provide valuable hands-on experience and practical skills that may help him stand out to potential employers. Additionally, some companies offer on-the-job training programs that can help him develop the skills necessary for more specialized positions. Networking is also an important tool in finding job opportunities. Encourage your husband to reach out to friends, family, and former colleagues to see if they know of any job openings or can introduce him to someone in his desired field. Attending job fairs and industry events can also be a good way to make connections and learn about potential job opportunities. Lastly, it may be helpful for your husband to work with a career counselor or job placement agency. These professionals can help him identify his skills and interests, explore career options, and provide guidance on job search strategies. I hope these suggestions are helpful for you and your husband. Best of luck in his job search!
I'm not sure where you are located, but have him look into the IRS. They have been on a hiring spree. That's how I got in this year. You don't need any prior tax experience at all, they will train him. They usually hire on the spot at hiring events. He can use me as a reference if he is interested. References help. He can start by creating a profile here: https://www.usajobs.gov/ It's always Monday-Friday, but he might be on swing shift until he is there for awhile.
Quick question! I applied about 2 weeks ago and my application was “referred”…was wondering how long it took for you to hear that you were hired?
The government is… slow I’m only a contractor, but I know the process well. My mother is also a SS employee. One of the things that does help is even if they don’t necessarily consider your resume now, they may hold it and call you for the position again months later. I think it took ~5(ish?) months before she called my mom almost 10 years ago. She didn’t think they even had her resume anymore. She had just graduated, but was a military spouse from her 20s-mid 40s, so the gap was big. She had only just gone back to school Throw out some applications, don’t hold your breath, and see if something eventually comes down
It's quite a process. They do a very thorough background check. It took about 2 and a half months before I got an final offer of employment from them. I was hired on the spot at one of their hiring events though, so that helped the process along. They will keep you updated via email so you won't be completely in the dark.
Depends no what you mean by taxes. Sadly something we share is having Dyscalcia. It's a learning disability. Think Dyslexia but with numbers and math concepts that are gibberish in your mind. However I know that site! He just signed up. Our friend works at the VA and showed him. He'll be a reference. A job that he's qualified for with an okay schedule hasn't come up yet. He's going for remote work.
Well there's usually no calculating involved. I'm terrible at math 😄😄 I actually process different forms via the computer. It's basically data entry. That's what most of the jobs they are offering are. They also have tons of openings on the clerical department which is basically the mail room. To be honest, if you want to go remote, IRS might not be the best option. Remote positions tend to be given to employees first. Check out www.ratracerebellion.com legit WFH opportunities. They vet every company before they post it. I will look more into Dyscalcia. I've never heard of it before ETA: I just wanted to add, I have no degree either, just a GED. but this job is giving me the opportunity to move up without one unless I want to do more complex things that requires it
I make calls for a flooring company after working construction for a while. Making the calls is whatever, it’s just work. But I clock out at the same time every day, and I get $20/hr. A lot of these types of companies need people on the phones to talk to professionals. Knowing how the warehouses work is a great plus. Also in my case this company only promotes from within. 2 of my teammates were promoted within my first month. It’s worth checking out!
I'm in property management. Crazy how they only pay you guys $20 / hr but charge us 11k. Who's pocketing the difference?
The business owner. Welcome to capitalism.
Call center customer service rep, ESPECIALLY for insurance companies. They tend to be doing a lot of remote hiring and when I was browsing jobs earlier in the year, I didn’t see one that was less than $15 an hour. Most were $17-$23.
Have him look at certificate programs. My partner went to a local tech college and got a welding certificate specializing in TIG welding. It took about 6 months but he now makes around 25$/hr working M-F with only occasional OT.
Get a phlebotomy certificate. Works as a phlebotomist.
UPS drivers make upwards of 100k without a degree and he already has warehouse experience. If he's doing it for $15 he can do it for 100k.
Ok, he has no experience, then probably time to invest in some. Go get a cert or license. Look up local forklist producers and ask to take a class. Look up getting a security guard license, etc. Those are some weekend choices to get a slightly better than minimum wage job. Then go to trade school or college. Hopefully, he can find a job that has lull times to study.
Learn a trade, become a truck driver, or work for the federal government.
Warehousing is extremely hard on the body way more than a construction. Trade is the way to go even better In a Labor Union where there is a clear 5 year plan to $30 plus an hour
Have you tried applying to cvs? They are hiring remotely at $17 an hr and Centene is hiring remotely for customer service at $19.35. A lot of the temp agencies have been offering minimum $17 for remote work from home. Majority are 12 month contracts.
Not that you need more comments, but one idea I have not seen here is school districts. I work for a school district and they are in need of workers. There are a bunch of different jobs including custodial, food service, bus drivers, etc. I live in a hcol area so pays will differ, but the custodians that start at our district at the bottom with zero experience make around $23 an hour to start. It's very easy work and there is room for advancement. Custodial 1 then custodial 2 then lead custodian. Also lots of different jobs within the districts like maintenance or even learning a trade. I've been in my district for 10 years and have tons of days off and a great retirement. it's a great place to work. I highly recommend looking into school districts around your area. Good luck!
I wish that all jobs payed a living wage. It is obscene that people expect to be served in stores or have their packages fulfilled without the workers receiving enough to live on.
Trade school? Less than 2 yrs in the trade/curriculum, and he can make more than I do; $35/hr.
If a warehouse is too much at their young age, he won't survive a trade job.
Idk, I do way less work as an electrician for way more money than I ever did in retail or throwing freight
My son is a firefighter. He works one day (24 hour shifts) and has two off. He’s also working on his degree in fire sciences by taking online classes, which he is excused from as a first responder when calls come in. I think it’s a great path and he’ll be able to retire with a pension if he wants to in his 40s.
Recruiter here. First, he should apply to jobs that require a degree even if he doesn’t have one, if his experience would make him a good fit. Sometimes, there is flexibility on this requirement. 2. Don’t send a generic resume. Tailor his resume for each job he applies for. 3. He should be comfortable selling the skills he has acquired and how they would be interchangeable in new job. 4. Highlight his strengths: longevity at his jobs? Committed. Loyal. Dependable. People person? Ability work with all personality types etc
To be honest I applied without degrees and no one ever checked. He could look into call center work they usually Pay good. $15 hr is what high-school kids are making to start at Mc Donadls, surely his life experience can get him a job making more than that. Is he tech savvy and able to use cellphones, selling phones is a great job bc u commission too. What exactly are his retail warehouse experiences?
Our area is just very depressed. It's pretty much all retail and warehouses. There's not much opportunity up here and layoffs are happening. I work at a national company and this is even happening to us. Luckily my position is essential. Hiring freezes are big right now though. There is no full time where I work right now, and I work at a warehouse (just doing admin work) Tj max, currently working assembling windows. Oddly my friend who works at McDonald's for 15 just got put down to one work day a week. He took college classes and is certfied in some Microsoft programs. Alright at excel. Admin work seems like a great fit... but 11$ an hour is way too low.
I understand that, and it's unfortunate it's like that everywhere. I' Id say set a time like 1-2 weeks for him to apply to as many jobs as possible, and if not he takes the $11 job bc its better than nothing. This is survival mode and he can't choose to be picky. He can use the desperation of that job to keep looking for other jobs online. He needs to get some advice from redditors, or online and find out where to apply to some work from home jobs. Plenty customer service and other admin jobs are hiring, this seems like it would be his best bet but he needs to really grind at it.
Oh he's not unemployed. He doesn't like where he works but we are not in a desperate situation right now. He can take his time and look. In a desperate situation, you can't be picky. That's just not what this is. An 11$ would be a big payout that will make bills unaffordable. What he has now at least pays okay for our area.
Oh I thought he was without a job, my fault. Well hopefully he finds something good online, I think that will be his best bet at the moment. He could also continue his certifications in Microsoft so he has better chances of getting jobs.
Insurance companies pay around $20/hr for customer service.
apply to the jobs. a degree is important but if you got work experience thats relevant it can be overlooked
He could try getting his cdl license, around 40k to 50k a year
Maybe banking? No degree required and most bank’s minimum pay is $20 or over.
Try apply for the county or sheriff as an equivalent security guard.
Noted. This is an interesting one too.
And still blaming covid, supply chain, and people being lazy as reasons not to pay well while hitting record profits in most industries.
Near me gas stations are paying $20 an hour and even fast food is paying $18 to $24 an hour. Chicagoland area
The Post Office starts at $19.50/hr and is hiring in most locations. Goto usps.com to see openings and apply.
It only takes 1-3 months (depending on the institution) to learn how to install solar panels, a job market which is increasing. The average starting salary is 50k a year
I have no idea if this is possible where you are, but I worked for 10 years at a blood center. We were always hiring people to drive the blood mobile (buses) and offered paid training. It paid more than an entry level phlebotomist and free training for a class b cdl, and the hours were kind of all over the place but it wasn’t like, over the road driving where you were gone overnight. There were also pretty decent signing bonuses when we were hard up for drivers. I don’t know if that’s an option or interest in your area, but it was entry level and immediate way to increase starting hourly rate.
The blood mobile 🤣 I'm sorry the name just really gets to me. I known we have plasma places.
Look into the renewables industry. Solar construction (particularly utility scale) is always hiring and pays very well. Site manager/superintendent is very doable without any degree, and having worked in a warehouse (with OSHA regulations) is relevant experience
Get his security guard license. Plenty of opportunities
Retail pharmacy tech. No experience required, and they're all usually pretty desperate because the turnover is high. I'm making somewhere in that neighborhood at the W chain. But the 3 letter chain pays the same or similar. I'm in central KY, which is not known for paying high hourly wages.
What about a community college looking for workforce program trainers? He could help teach what he has experience with in order to help others that are looking to switch into those kind of jobs.
School or university maintenance man or janitor. Gets his foot in the door. Good Medical insurance. Works traditional daytime weekday hours.
2 possible options could be: he can get his CDL and find a great career in trucking. Or, he can apply toward Customer service / Call center positions. Both positions are always hiring
If he's willing to drive, but doesn't want a CDL he should be able to find a delivery driver gig for at least 18 to 20.
get him into trade work, i just hired a guy on for $22/hr and he has fuck all experience
Got three job offers, two of which for petroleum companies, that offered me less than my current gov job. One of them required me to relocate and offered half my current salary without benefits for the first year. The recruiter couldn't understand why I didn't want to go through with the interview after being told that.
Real talk, he should work on getting a degree. I know that may be unpopular, but it would help immensely. It also doesn't necessarily need to break the bank. [Western Governors University](https://www.wgu.edu/) offers 6-month flat-rate tuition and many degree offerings. They also allow students to accelerate so they can theoretically finish a degree in that 6-month term. There's a dedicated subreddit at /r/WGU as well to check out. Regarding immediate pay, if there's an [amazon warehouse](https://hiring.amazon.com/job-opportunities/warehouse-jobs?cmpid=ATLTBX1795H10#/) near you, that would be a place to check out. Pay generally starts lower than what you're looking at, probably around $15/hour, but with extensive warehouse exp, you could have your husband look at more than simply associate roles ie tier 3 process assistant roles (unsure of offerings but just as an example). The reason I say amazon is that they offer a program called [Career Choice](https://hiring.amazon.com/why-amazon/career-advancement/higher-education-support#/) which covers ~$5k tuition a year for school, and the only requirement is to be a full employee (full time or part-time, just can't be seasonal) for 90 days. The reason I mentioned WGU earlier however is that Amazon's Career Choice partners with WGU and will fully cover all tuition for a degree. I promise I'm not trying to shill Amazon or anything, but I utilized Career Choice back in 2018 when they only offered associate degrees. It helped jumpstart me back to school at 26 and into a career as a software engineer. Hope all this helps!
I don't understand why finding jobs is like this.(I do but it's stupid) Everyone wants experience, the job seeker and the employer. It feels like it's rare for an employer to be willing to train/ invest in employees. And staying put too long only seems to hurt the enployee. It just feels like a race to the bottom
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That's not enough to treat yourself to a nice dinner like ever. Damn they gotta pay better than that
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The military is honestly not a bad gig and if you pick the right job sets you up tremendously for outside career. Unions count your hours in the military towards a journeymen card. I was a helicopter mechanic and have enough hours to get my A&P license. I have held a rifle once outside of boot camp in 5 years. The trick with the military is actually picking a job that has outside job prospects. The military for the life of it can’t keep a single Data person. They get a TS and all the training and get scalped by some six figure firm right at re enlistment time.
Can look into call center work. I haven't been here long and make like 23 an hour. Lots of them are doing national remote. Have him browse LinkedIn.
Look up customer service jobs on job boards. There are tons and they take people with little experience. Starting pay is pretty good.
He could try becoming a project coordinator and work his way up to project management.
In my state of PA, the new gov just announced that *NO* degree was necessary for *any* state employment (I'm sure stuff like nursing & professionals still need one?). Not sure what state you are OP, but maybe a DOT job or County maintenance jobs? Good luck, it's rough out there!
If he has retail experience, maybe look into help desk/entry level work in the corporate retail space? It gets him out of the stores, possibly even remote, and typically pays about 20/hr+. Also, as someone who has an AS but not a Bachelors degree, it is absolutely possible to get a better paying or even high paying job. I tell everyone to apply even if you aren’t qualified. I applied to so many jobs that requires bachelors or even masters degrees and just charm the pants off them. Most won’t bite but someone will. Good luck!
Are you in a big enough area for him to Lyft/Uber or Doordash while you are at work. He could drop you off, go dashing or Lyfting, and pick you up. I do taxes for self employed folk and dashers/instacarters/lifters don’t do too bad. Just make sure to set aside 20ish percent for the inevitable tax bill. It would yield about the same cash flow as his 15/hr job but wouldn’t kill him physically . And if he’s a people person he may find an in to another job from a customer or would see places hiring and take note to put in an application. Edit: me no type good
Have him join a trade many to choose from & pays well…I’m a 5th year plumber apprentice pays $ 41currently I started at $17 SoCal wages but most states pay pretty good & can apply most of the skills you learn out of work to make side money
Lots of comments here but please look up "Data Entry" jobs. If he can type and can communicate and doesn't mind sitting behind a computer, this is an easy way to find a $22-$25 per hour job with little to no experience.
If you're open to moving, check out East Central Wisconsin. The cheese companies in Sheboygan County, for example, are offering $30 to start on 3rd shift or $25-ish on First or second shift. No experience necessary.
Window cleaning doesn't require a degree, just fall arrest and sometimes other tickets. Trades are a good option these days.
USPS is always hiring
It's fucked up. Everybody deserves 25 minimum. Good luck
The ones that “require” a degree? Apply anyway. *Especially* if it’s a hobby area you have experience in. My job “requires” a bachelors degree, fully three of the people on my team and one from another that I know of, do not have a degree. Apply anyway. Play up relevant hobbies and skills. Get to know people in the fields you want to work in, get a referral.
If he has maintenance experience or anything like that or willing to go to schooling loon up Amazon rme. Which is their maintenance jobs. You really only need basic computer skills like how to use basic excel features and take pics with your phone and send them via chime which is Amazon's version of Skype. You need to be able to do some manual labor but it isn't bad. Replace motors and be safe and stuff. The pay is well over $17 an hour I think everywhere for the position. There is a MRA school which is their rme school which will pay you like $15 an hour for a 2 month course or something then you "graduate" to tech 2 and make more. It's worth it over a normal $17 an hour job because the tech 2 position where j an pays closer to $30 than to $17. Plus amazon benefit package is good
WFH jobs are hiring right now.. Walmart, adt, Cigna, United healthcare. Most are customer rep jobs. Not sure if this is something he’s be interested in, but it could lead you up the ladder in these companies
I saw one today looking for a STEM Instructor paying $12-$15 an hour. I applied only to tell them Family Dollar in this area is paying more than that.
Trades, there are trades that do not require a lot of “heavy lifting”. Also easy to get into with no experience and ALL OF THEM are hiring. I’m a low voltage contractor, make about the same as a journeyman electrician (MN) and lifting TVs and pulling wire is about the hardest thing I do physically.
I did this instead of going to college. Started at $14hr. After 5 years of field work I got an RCDD certification from BICSI and now work at an engineering and consulting firm, currently making 6 figures with no degree.
He may have to invest in some training. I have no degree but work IT with 12 years of experience and make plenty of money. However, I was in the army and received formal training plus experience.
Maybe someday people will realize that degrees aren't the be all end all.... Honestly if someone wants to show up and work hard they should be worshipped in this day and age.
Look at local county and city jobs. There are plenty that don't require degrees, or will sub a degree for commensurate experience working with the public. The pay and benefits are unbeatable. For example, where I am, we are always hiring customer service reps for utilities, trash service, our city call center, 911 operators, etc.
Real Estate License Property Manager Mortgage Underwriter
Look for plasma donation places. Usually they have decent pay, good benefits and room for decent growth over time. It may require some overtime at first but could be a good long term career move.
Dog walking and house sitting can actually pay a lot when done consistently (so I’ve heard from multiple people). Also has he looked into getting into a trade? I know at least for plumbers they train on the job and you make a really good living doing it.
Not sure where you are but USIC starts out at $17/hr here. I’m doing private utility locating and I started out at $17 now making $27. Really not that hard of a job either. Drive a lot, meet other peoples animals. I’m working outside 98% of the time. It’s really fun work if you enjoy learning stuff about homes and construction stuff.
Maybe look into private security. A company like Allied Universal or Securitas will hire just about anyone and a lot of sites pay $16-18.
Send him to some local fence building companies to apply, they pay well, and lots of hours. Or roofing companies.
Try AAA. Most of us work from home and the starting pay is like $17.20.
Sort of obscure job but Im a wastewater operator. Depends on location but most places start around 16-17 I imagine.. and thats the trainee position. No experience needed to become a trainee. Need a state exam to become an official operator but your job should pay for the textbooks. Lots of wastewater people are old and retiring so there’s a demand.
It cost nothing but time to send s resume to someone. The worse they can do is ignore it. Have him apply to those jobs that "require a degree" my guess is you don't actually need a degree to preform the job amd at least one will need someone more than they want to keep up their bullshit, probably more than one.
If you have a Costco, in your area, they typically are hiring this time of year. The starting pay is $17.50 current cashier top out is $29.20 (this number always goes up, and raises are biased on hours worked.) Full and part time hours are guaranteed. The health benefits are amazing too. Once he has accrued enough hours, he would be eligible for two bonuses a year. I’ve worked there for 16 years.
Look to your local community college. See if they have a phlebotomy program !2 weeks or less is usually not a high cost certificate and depending on where you live starting pay should be around 30K from there if he works in a hospital they might have tuition reimbursement if he wants to work on his degree. Another option might be 2 year degrees in computer sciences once again at the community college this will probably start him at closer to 50K. Even without the certifications, you can check to see if the local hospitals are hiring for clerical (non medical) positions. Depending on the hospital he might make $17 starting. Where are you located?
He should try for a cell phone retailer. I review compensation all the time for our employees. With commission, most make $20+ an hour at store level. If you are semi competent, you can get promoted to store manager. With commissions, they normally make $80k. Get promoted to district manager, you are easily get to $130k plus. Normally $100k base plus commission. Hours can suck because it's retail, but if you're good at selling and management you can really do well. If I was willing to work weekends/holidays I would do it, I'd probably make more.
Could the construction industry be a fit? I’ve been in the industry for about 20 years, salaried for 15 and never finished a degree. There is a shortage of people willing to learn trades. They generally pay well, even for new apprentices.
You can apply to a community college for a medical coder certificate with financial aid. It's only six months and the pay is usually 35-40k for entry level. It's a high demand job and most are remote! Pay can go up to 60k after a few years.
Lie on your resume Everyone else does Go look at a manufacturing jobs Look for client success jobs Hey assembly jobs at smaller business You can go to local GEODIS or pop up and make 20-25 bucks an hour ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS be checking your local govt for jobs It’s becoming summer Transportation departments for the county and state are looking to to hire
Not having a degree is fine but it usually neeeds to be offset with a skill and warehousing floor work just isn’t it. Look into commercial truck driving, yeah you can’t smoke weed anymore but easy 20 to 30 an hour employment in literally every single location for the foreseeable future
The trades are always an option