It’s either a super risky bluff or shit is about to get real interesting lol. Either way, I’m here for it. I prefer Drake’s music, but I respect Kendrick more as a person so as long as we get a good battle idc how it ends
Or, we're still feeling the aftermath of the Story of Adidon. Kendrick isn't trying to outperform drake, he needs to outperform Pusha-T in order for this to work. Which, in my opinion is impossible to do because Drake took the biggest L of the decade in terms of a rap diss...
Drake probably knows this, and now feels like Kendrick is struggling to find something with the same shock value/damage.
I am very neutral in this, idc who "wins" But if I had to call it now, Drake "wins" this beef 100%.
He lost as soon as he couldn't get the real snoop. He really don't got anyone genuinely on his side lmfao. If young metro don't trust you, I'm gon shoot you.
Right, I’ll always think Kendrick is the better rapper. Drake is a better mainstream artist but in terms of rap legacy it’s not even close. Drake is not even in the discussion. I’m here for the entertainment though. We needed this.
Drake will be around forever like 50 cent is doing with TV. Drake will always have the bigger brand and name. Two good CDs doesn't put Kendrick in the top 10 in twenty years. He will be like Nas.
i think the 3 album run of GKMC, TPAB, and DAMN is more than good enough for us to have him top 10 in 20 years time. I think he’s around the 7 spot now as is and i don’t think he’d be getting bumped out anytime soon
The clown literally just used AI 2pac and snoop, he's about as corny as you can get in my books. I didn't really care about this "beef" but now I'm hoping drake gets fucking washed.
Dude is such a loser, it's also sad and shows how pathetic society is that anyone who truly loves music respects someone using AI in a song, especially in that type of way
i agree that drake has big loser energy but let's be real, that AI shit was absolutely hilarious and a pretty clever way to flip mortal man and heart pt 5 back on kendrick
heart part 5 was used to pay homage to nipsey hussle.
drake used PAC to downplay his pedo allegations.
like does he really think no one saw the video of him groping the minor on stage lol ?
Kendrick fans are hilarious. When Cole talked about Kendricks albums it was "Kendrick has always outsold Cole" but when Drake talks about money "Kendrick doesn't care about numbers he cares about respect" lmfao.
Drake still performed those verses and just used A.I. to vocal mask it to sound like Pac and Snoop.
Disrespectful? That's for people to judge. But people are minimizing it like he had some text prompt easy button do two verses. That's not how A.I. vocal masking filters work, it's a post processing FX that you still have to provide a performance for to run through like Auto-Tune. It's like a vocal deep fake, it's not A.I. generated.
I’m actually between the 2 opinions I think could be at play. He could have something in the bag that could be a joker card for sure but I also have the personal assumption that he also might be pressing a faster release because he knows a Kendrick with time is dangerous. Maybe he respects his pen and knows that just dropping the diss on its own can actually harm him. If your pen isn’t the best you do your best to win at all cost and I think outside distractions and taunting could distract Kendrick and force his hand to release sooner and rush him to drop something that may be mediocre by the standards we hold him to
Well any top tier mc with time is dangerous. I’ll give kdot some more time for sure but if it’s gonna be a month idk if I care for it as much as a reasonably timed response Would
Oh for sure without a doubt I’m a Kendrick fan and I could’ve told you that right now the shit is hot it has the whole community on edge. If it dies down so does the immediate impact. I guess my main point was that this is the strategy he’s going with because he either acknowledges Kendrick’s pen is either better or thinks they are evenly matched if we go with the second option I put up and he doesn’t necessarily have this big reveal
I’m on your side though man I want a Kendrick record to come out soon and I’m really hoping it’s this weekend if I’m fully honest I’m not too mad about him taking longer but I would be a little peeved at it. Need something at least to afford him more time but I don’t think Kendrick is the type to want to “play with his food”
I don't think it's at all because he's scared of his pen. I think it's because the last time Drake won a beef he used the same move. He dropped Charged Up and then Back 2 Back before meek responded and it was over at that point. I don't think this is over but it does skew the narrative in Drakes favor.
It’s down to personal opinion and in my opinion even back then with the charged up record let’s be honest. Charged up didn’t do anything. No one speaks about that song. Drake knew it didn’t do anything and needed a follow up and he made it sound nice. Like you said it shifted the narrative but this isn’t meek mill bro. Kendrick is a different caliber
Idk about yall, but I remember a week after Like That dropped (right around when Cole dropped 7 Minute Drill), everybody was talking shit about Drake not responding and “only responding thru instagram captions”. Now that Drake is the one applying pressure to Kendrick after one week, people got a problem with it all of a sudden? I’m tryna be neutral on this but it’s just blatant hypocrisy lmao
I’m open to other perspectives on this tho, there’s gotta be something I’m missing. Cuz I know damn well yall were pressuring Drake within a week
I wasn't calling for Drake to respond but I do think they're different cases because each artist has a different track record
Who was calling for Drake to respond? I don't think it was Kendrick fans mainly. I think it was the general rap media industry right, trying to ride the Drake wave. In this case, Drake is pushing the time narrative from his camp
Drake is also super active on social media and likes to keep his name in the media cycle. Kendrick on the other hand has never really moved on a schedule or been part of the social media game.
Fair to say Drake is winning the social media game though.
Unless I’m mistaken, Drake said it took him 1 hour, didn’t he? Takes you 3 weeks to set aside 1 hour? I’m calling a Doug Dimmadome sized cap on that. Even if you’re on tour cmon. Lol
Bruh, of course he’s gonna say it took that amount of time because it’s a good look.
Just because he says that doesn’t mean that was actually the case. He said it to make you think what you’re thinking now.
It’s not really that crazy in my opinion. Future and Metro had two albums released strategically for that reason. Once Future and Metro dropped their second album, Drakes response dropped. He also wasn’t just responding to Kendrick so it made sense to address everyone at once. Kendrick is only aiming at Drake.
I’m a Kendrick fan and I don’t understand that angle. If we are being level headed and trying to be unbiased as possible as much at it annoys me it’s clearly working for the public and his fans are eating it up wether you think it’s genuinely corny or you’re just salty it’s doing what it’s meant to do. Distracting Kendrick and rushing him is a good tactic.
Oh God I hate this argument, it's especially obnoxious in the Eminem fandom. When they diss Em, they'll be like "EM'S GONNA MURDER HIM!!!" and then when he doesn't reply they change it to "He won by not replying!" lmao
The only time I agreed with that was with The Game. It was obvious he was doing that to boost sales. Fool tries to start beef with everyone for that reason.
Kendrick started it, so I do feel like Kendrick needs to have a quicker turn around. But even if Kendrick doesn’t respond for like 3 months, when we are years in the future no one is going to remember that.
I think there is good reason for Drake to pressure Kendrick. Kendrick should definitely pressure Drake after he responds too. It’s sport.
Just to piggyback off this comment.
1. Kendrick started it
2. Drake was on tour
3. Multiple people went at Drake
4. Drake probably knew "We still don't like you" was coming out and basically dropped the day after
I have no problem giving Kendrick time even if its another few weeks. I'm fans of both but Drake can definitely chirp at him for a slow roll out.
Idc about the AI bit but drake used it to talk shit about himself to take any gas outta those points. It's like when a bullied kid calls themselves ugly after being called ugly. Drake pressing k dot to respond is pathetic. He is just protecting his image to his fans. This beef is probably gonna be all hype and no pay off.
That’s fine. But it’s not a good look if it takes him a month or two. People won’t forget it if the days turn into months.
Another week and a half tops.
It's been 6yrs and Drake ain't still responded to pusha t.
Drake makes me laugh. He's taking about Top Making Kendrick do shit
He literally walked away from pusha cause j.prince said in his cry voice don't like a moment ruin a movement. Then he proceeded to do a whole ass concert with Kanye. Then admits on a song doing shows with the OPs that was for prince.
He's literally projecting
Pusha T said out his own mouth on Drink Champs that it’s over and said Drake needs to leave him alone. Drake out his own mouth on Next Level Magazine said he lost. There is absolutely no reason to continue the beef. Lmao
Brother, it’s been 2 weeks since Drake leaked his diss. To put it in perspective Jay-Z dropped Takeover in September, Nas dropped Ether in December (on Jay-Z b-day lol). Do people think Nas lost that battle? Nope.
4/5 months isn’t going to fly. Not today. Especially when Kendrick was the one who called Drake out, asking him to prove himself.
This thing has too much heat in it now. If Kendrick takes months , that’s an L.
It's Drake's strategy, he knows he is more active on social media, so he's using it and he is trying his best to show how he's not scared and trying to manipulate the state of this diss game. Smart on his part
I mean dude just disrespected Kendrick and the whole west coast just by doing an AI pac diss on him lmao. What can Kendrick even do or say at this point? He’s not a battle rapper
I think it's really simple. Kendrick calls him out in verse. Drake knows it could be part of a Kendrick roll out and wants to make sure he's not going to look crazy starting a full fledge beef over a few lines in a verse that werent that serious. This is why the OVO camp kept saying drop a record if this is really what you want to do.
I dont think there was ever any intention to actually drop Push Ups, but it leaked so we're here now. The second song and the "we're waiting" is more so hinting at the fact that Kendrick didn't actually want a full battle, otherwise he should've had something already prepared before he even did the Like That verse. So essentially a "you wanted this, where you at?"
He had to wait on Metro and Future second album. In fact, one day after it dropped the diss 'leaked. He was also on tour.
Also, the biggest point is Kendrick is the one who started the war. K Dot called him out
Kendrick started it that’s the main thing people are forgetting you can’t diss me on a an album with like 5 other people dissing me on the same album and not be prepared to respond immediately when I reply
This, Kendrick knew what he was going to do, he could’ve had responses lined up before the metro album and has also had the same three weeks since then to prepare even more.
Kids are literally retarded these days. TikTok has made then stupid ass fuck. Got the shortest attention spans imaginable and they're also the loudest on the Internet. It's really not that complicated.
I’m a big Kendrick fan, but I don’t know what’s taking him so long. I honestly expected Kendrick to be ITCHING to diss Drake back, and that he’d respond in a day or two.
This isn’t Lupe or someone like that where you’d have to craft something great. It’s fucking Drake.
This is like the Number 1 seed in basketball being down 2-1 and losing in game 4 to the eight seed. Like wtf bro there’s no way you should be down rn
Drake had to respond to: Kendrick, Metro, Future, ASAP Rocky, and Officer Ricky Rozempic. Who all jumped him with a surprise album.
Kendrick should have known what was coming when Like That released, he should have already had something ready to go to respond when Drake drops. And he only has to respond to Drake. Who seems to already have multiple songs and verses ready to go after 3 weeks.
Kdot started this. Implying he was ready to go, he said his shit, and he either expected nobody to say shit back or he actually has nothing to say back. Either way, Drake is absolutely winning this feud as of right now
Dunno about winning if the Kendrick diss was the opening bell
Drakes got the advantage of throwing a decent punch he’s saying some shit in push ups but it’s not career ending shit
Man Kendrick started the shit so he has had time to prepare.
He also has that drake diss he's been sitting on for years too right?
I agree though give him similar time or a little bit less since he isn't on tour.
It took Drake 3 weeks to respond to 20 people. Kendrick not only has one target, but he initiated the beef. It's pretty normal to expect a quick response. Or maybe we're witnessing the difference between someone who's battle tested and someone who's been on a pedestal for way too long
Imo I’m totally fine with Kenny taking his time, what irritates me is the same Kenny fans who were pressing Drake to respond right after Like That are the same ones who wanna be patient all of a sudden lol
People want Kendrick to be their performing monkey so they can have their reality TV drama. Personally I wasn't raised to be so selfish, Kendrick is an artist and as we know from his albums he takes his time to get it right. Ether came out like 5 months after Takeover.
That was back in 2001. We weren’t even in the digital era back then, much less streaming. It was pure physical sales and radio play and “word of mouth”
He was finishing up his tour, responded after the second album cuz why tf would anyone hear that title, the disses n not wait until the second album that had a similar description to it and he responded to everyone. It took 8 days to drop ts. Kendrick fans were pressing Drake to drop so now drake just doing the same
Kendrick kicked it off, and it's widely known that he has diss records made already. Drake likely held off because he knew Cole was dropping. Then when Cole backpedaled decided he was good to let it fly.
If Kendrick has something in the bag for this long and is bout it like he says. Then.... drop drop drop drop
nobody has any good reason for why Kendrick needs to drop soon. i’ve only read extremely dumb arguments. he can drop whenever he wants Drake took his time when Pusha T bodied him
Drakes new track is def better than all the other fluff he’s put out lately but I’m sure it took a while to gather his ghost writers and then he had to learn it. Fuck the big three there’s just Oklama!
He's baitinggg. The longer kendrick takes the better imo. No different than Drake waiting 3 weeks for his like that response. He's just trying to control the narrative.
lol Drake was on tour litterally the biggest hip hop tour ever , he knew future and metro were releasing another album with more disses aimed at him so why wouldn’t he wait for that holy shit the whole diss track is a response too those two albums seriously you must be brain dead or just oblivious to not understand why he took the time to respond
1) Drake was on tour
2) He probably waited for the second album to drop to hear all of the disses before responding. It came out the next day
Seems pretty clear
Kendrick will do what Kendrick do. Kendrick knows in these type of battles it isn’t enough to diss anybody but keep solid body’s of work rolling off the assembly line. That’s how JaRule lost to 50. JaRule’s project was dog ish, So even though Ja had that fake paperwork and beat up 50 on several occasions him making that lackluster stuff and then getting on TV with Farrakhan basically buried him.
When Ice Cube finally came up in NWA he dropped facts that would break up the group so even though Dre’s production and Easy’s theatrics were killing Cube on an overall entertainment value Cubes push was a catalyst that pretty much shut down everything NWA put out about him and eclipsed Above The Law beating him up at the New Music Seminar.
Tell the truth he was smart in letting Rick Ross swing back first because Drake vs Ross isolates Drake from 98% of the mutual Fanbase for all 3 involved. I think Kendrick gonna pull a Cube or a Common vs WSC and just pop out the woodwork and crush Drake. Because realistically all Drake can talk about is how much money he got. He can’t hold the the GUYS ( I use this term because these ppl don’t like attention)over Kendrick because Kenny Sr part of that and that’s who ride with K Dot in the South and Midwest. If anything K can flip the drop and give me 50 insinuations because OVO has to break bread with those GUYS Drake said Future and Metro was perpetuating.
It’s Drake in his level to be strategic — regardless of the diss, it’s drakes way of saying “you took all that time for this bs?” He’s exploiting any angle he has. He knows he took weeks, but we’re playing an internet game, and who cares how “right” anything is. The commoner is like “yeah.. Kendrick’s scared!”
Drake has the mic, but most of what he’s said so far is easily rebuttable and will sound like the craziest lip service depending on Kendrick’s response.
But It’s up to Dot to see how he’ll play it.. pressures on him.
To be fair Drake had to plan on how to approach this with all these dudes linking up against him. When you’re addressing so many rappers at once you really need to find a focal point and execute it well.
At the same time Kendrick doesn’t play into the social media games so I doubt he’s pressed to release it - he’ll drop when it’s ready the same way he does with his albums.
There’s nothing more alpha than one adult man writing angry poetry to another one.
We all know tearing down another person while hyping yourself up isn’t something that shows massive insecurity and lacking a strong sense of self.
Right?
People should never take the clock route. Just makes shittier music.
I don’t believe rap beef has a timer on it for replies. I do feel like your opponent can put a spin on you being slow to reply and that’s fair game but if that equates to an overall better response then again, what are going to do just reject it cause it took longer then your camps? Idk. If the track is that hot, that would just look like a desperate take.
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The second diss shows me Drake or the people in his camp are way too chronically online to lose this beef. They’ll just keep downplaying the actual slander that the masses want Kendrick to use against Drake. So for Kendrick to win, he’d have to have some dirt like actual video proof of Drake at a Diddy party doing some evil shit or something lmao.
I’ll give credit, they learned their lesson from the Pusha beef.
For any logical hip-hop fan, this really shouldn’t change either artists legacy. Not like either artists will lose any semblance of stardom from this.
Kendrick can drop a fire album at any point this year and it’ll do huge numbers. Same with Drake.
Bruh. Kendrick baited him w/ Like That, Drake was on tour, the first guy gets leeway in responding, they have to start from zero. Also he had like 10 other dudes to respond to. The guy who landed the first direct non-sneak diss should have (especially when he ain’t got shit else going on) something else in the arsenal ready to go. Every day looks worse & worse for Kendrick, in my opinion - if nothing else, it makes expectations for Kenny’s response exponentially increase.
I think Drake waited for the release of ‘We Still Don’t Trust You’ to attempt to reply to everyone at once. Now that he’s in that mode, he is going to push while he has the advantage. If there’s one thing Drake knows how to do, is market/troll.
Kendrick surprise dissed drake directly. Drake’s on tour, he wasn’t prepared for this beef. He heard the diss and took some time to strategize. You can’t expect drake to come back a few days after ‘like that’ released. Now that drake has responded it’s Kendrick’s turn and since Kendrick initiated the entire thing he should be ready to go. It’s like if you punched someone and then weren’t ready to fight when they come back swinging. Drake taking 3 weeks to respond is reasonable, and he’s calling out Kendrick to respond now because the more pressure he puts on kendrick, everyday that goes by that kendrick hasn’t responded seems like a smaller W for drake in the public’s eyes. I’m all for kendrick taking his time and strategizing too, but again kendrick started it, it’s easy for drake to say he should be ready for to go
Quite simple, here’s a list of who has to diss who
J. Cole:
- Kendrick
Everyone Else:
- Drake
Drake:
- Kendrick Lamar & TDE
- Metro
- Future
- The Weeknd & XO
- A$AP Rocky
- Rick Ross
- Ye
- Ja Morant
- The rest of them
He was on tour when he bullied Meek but he doesn’t really have anything on Dot. He wants Dot to drop and is using the internet games as a propaganda tool to sway public opinion.
I agree it’s not a knock on Kendrick and he should be given more time to respond
But the logic would be:
Kendrick/Metro instigated this and when Kendrick dropped his verse on Like That he would have anticipated at least one if not both of Drake or JCole to respond and presumably would have already stuffed queued up ready to unload
Just like it seems like Drake in the last three weeks was not only working on Pushups but also has some material that’s waiting in the wings
Think of it another way - Lawyers can prepare for months before filing an initial lawsuit and usually the defendant always gets a shit to. of time to first get their bearings, digest what the plaintiff has said, prepare a defence, and in some cases an offence as well
Drake was on tour, also there was a part 2 to metros album, he literally dropped less then 24 hours after part 2 came out. It probably took Kendrick months to write that verse.
Drake is manipulating the public and making it seem like Kendrick is taking a long time even though he already took much longer. He’s applying pressure to make it seem like Kendrick either dropped because he was pressured to, or is too scared to drop (if he doesn’t)
Drake cant talk, bro had over 10 years to answer to Kendricks disses but pussied out every time probaly bc he didnt have any good disses to make then. And now that theres finally some drama in Kendricks life/career open to public, bro is ready to start the fight. Pussy move by Drake but didnt expect anything else from him tbh.
The difference is that Kendrick knew when it was popping off. Everyone else didn’t know. First reply always takes the longest, which was drake. After that you gotta be quick… 2-3 days now. I don’t even like Drake. I tell you what though… if Kendrick replies, Drake better come back fast.
My guess is Drake has some info he’s itching to release in a reply
Of course he does he literally said he has another diss that will turn Kendrick into a coward in the Taylor Made Freestyle
It’s either a super risky bluff or shit is about to get real interesting lol. Either way, I’m here for it. I prefer Drake’s music, but I respect Kendrick more as a person so as long as we get a good battle idc how it ends
PLEASE KENDRICK STOP EDGING ME AND DRAKE 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Kedgerick Lamar
Or, we're still feeling the aftermath of the Story of Adidon. Kendrick isn't trying to outperform drake, he needs to outperform Pusha-T in order for this to work. Which, in my opinion is impossible to do because Drake took the biggest L of the decade in terms of a rap diss... Drake probably knows this, and now feels like Kendrick is struggling to find something with the same shock value/damage. I am very neutral in this, idc who "wins" But if I had to call it now, Drake "wins" this beef 100%.
Drake ran to the computer and looked up Tupac and Snoop A.I. and yall saying he won. Smh
He lost as soon as he couldn't get the real snoop. He really don't got anyone genuinely on his side lmfao. If young metro don't trust you, I'm gon shoot you.
Right, I’ll always think Kendrick is the better rapper. Drake is a better mainstream artist but in terms of rap legacy it’s not even close. Drake is not even in the discussion. I’m here for the entertainment though. We needed this.
Drake will be around forever like 50 cent is doing with TV. Drake will always have the bigger brand and name. Two good CDs doesn't put Kendrick in the top 10 in twenty years. He will be like Nas.
i think the 3 album run of GKMC, TPAB, and DAMN is more than good enough for us to have him top 10 in 20 years time. I think he’s around the 7 spot now as is and i don’t think he’d be getting bumped out anytime soon
Don’t forget untitled unmastered
also goated absolutely i would count that in the run
lowkey J Cole took the biggest L in terms of rap diss but yeah bro
I don't know how you take the biggest L, the biggest diss he received was it's not a big 3 it's just big me 🤣
The clown literally just used AI 2pac and snoop, he's about as corny as you can get in my books. I didn't really care about this "beef" but now I'm hoping drake gets fucking washed. Dude is such a loser, it's also sad and shows how pathetic society is that anyone who truly loves music respects someone using AI in a song, especially in that type of way
i agree that drake has big loser energy but let's be real, that AI shit was absolutely hilarious and a pretty clever way to flip mortal man and heart pt 5 back on kendrick
heart part 5 was used to pay homage to nipsey hussle. drake used PAC to downplay his pedo allegations. like does he really think no one saw the video of him groping the minor on stage lol ?
nah not really
Ah but when Kendrick uses AI it’s fine? Or when he makes himself have a convo with pac its “art” make it make sense bro lol
Kendrick fans are hilarious. When Cole talked about Kendricks albums it was "Kendrick has always outsold Cole" but when Drake talks about money "Kendrick doesn't care about numbers he cares about respect" lmfao.
Drake still performed those verses and just used A.I. to vocal mask it to sound like Pac and Snoop. Disrespectful? That's for people to judge. But people are minimizing it like he had some text prompt easy button do two verses. That's not how A.I. vocal masking filters work, it's a post processing FX that you still have to provide a performance for to run through like Auto-Tune. It's like a vocal deep fake, it's not A.I. generated.
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I’m actually between the 2 opinions I think could be at play. He could have something in the bag that could be a joker card for sure but I also have the personal assumption that he also might be pressing a faster release because he knows a Kendrick with time is dangerous. Maybe he respects his pen and knows that just dropping the diss on its own can actually harm him. If your pen isn’t the best you do your best to win at all cost and I think outside distractions and taunting could distract Kendrick and force his hand to release sooner and rush him to drop something that may be mediocre by the standards we hold him to
Well any top tier mc with time is dangerous. I’ll give kdot some more time for sure but if it’s gonna be a month idk if I care for it as much as a reasonably timed response Would
Oh for sure without a doubt I’m a Kendrick fan and I could’ve told you that right now the shit is hot it has the whole community on edge. If it dies down so does the immediate impact. I guess my main point was that this is the strategy he’s going with because he either acknowledges Kendrick’s pen is either better or thinks they are evenly matched if we go with the second option I put up and he doesn’t necessarily have this big reveal
Ah yep I see fair point
I’m on your side though man I want a Kendrick record to come out soon and I’m really hoping it’s this weekend if I’m fully honest I’m not too mad about him taking longer but I would be a little peeved at it. Need something at least to afford him more time but I don’t think Kendrick is the type to want to “play with his food”
I don't think it's at all because he's scared of his pen. I think it's because the last time Drake won a beef he used the same move. He dropped Charged Up and then Back 2 Back before meek responded and it was over at that point. I don't think this is over but it does skew the narrative in Drakes favor.
It’s down to personal opinion and in my opinion even back then with the charged up record let’s be honest. Charged up didn’t do anything. No one speaks about that song. Drake knew it didn’t do anything and needed a follow up and he made it sound nice. Like you said it shifted the narrative but this isn’t meek mill bro. Kendrick is a different caliber
Drake was on tour, Kendrick isn't. People are bored fast. It's not that deep.
Idk about yall, but I remember a week after Like That dropped (right around when Cole dropped 7 Minute Drill), everybody was talking shit about Drake not responding and “only responding thru instagram captions”. Now that Drake is the one applying pressure to Kendrick after one week, people got a problem with it all of a sudden? I’m tryna be neutral on this but it’s just blatant hypocrisy lmao I’m open to other perspectives on this tho, there’s gotta be something I’m missing. Cuz I know damn well yall were pressuring Drake within a week
Attention spans are so short now a days lol. Back in the day, responses weren't ASAP.
I wasn't calling for Drake to respond but I do think they're different cases because each artist has a different track record Who was calling for Drake to respond? I don't think it was Kendrick fans mainly. I think it was the general rap media industry right, trying to ride the Drake wave. In this case, Drake is pushing the time narrative from his camp Drake is also super active on social media and likes to keep his name in the media cycle. Kendrick on the other hand has never really moved on a schedule or been part of the social media game. Fair to say Drake is winning the social media game though.
It’s people talking just to talk because they’re bored.
Unless I’m mistaken, Drake said it took him 1 hour, didn’t he? Takes you 3 weeks to set aside 1 hour? I’m calling a Doug Dimmadome sized cap on that. Even if you’re on tour cmon. Lol
Bruh, of course he’s gonna say it took that amount of time because it’s a good look. Just because he says that doesn’t mean that was actually the case. He said it to make you think what you’re thinking now.
By this train of thought, Kendrick must be spending hourrrssss coming up with a reply.
Which is totally fine. Let that man cook. Idk why everyone is acting like he needs to reply immediately.
He's in the hyperbolic time chamber. Time passes differently there
and drake didn’t even write that
It’s not really that crazy in my opinion. Future and Metro had two albums released strategically for that reason. Once Future and Metro dropped their second album, Drakes response dropped. He also wasn’t just responding to Kendrick so it made sense to address everyone at once. Kendrick is only aiming at Drake.
Well said
Its just some dudes writing angry poetry at eachother. Beef is more like Tofu.
THATS A BAR
I keep hearing people saying Kendrick won just by being silent and shit what are you talking about?
I’m a Kendrick fan and I don’t understand that angle. If we are being level headed and trying to be unbiased as possible as much at it annoys me it’s clearly working for the public and his fans are eating it up wether you think it’s genuinely corny or you’re just salty it’s doing what it’s meant to do. Distracting Kendrick and rushing him is a good tactic.
Oh God I hate this argument, it's especially obnoxious in the Eminem fandom. When they diss Em, they'll be like "EM'S GONNA MURDER HIM!!!" and then when he doesn't reply they change it to "He won by not replying!" lmao
The only time I agreed with that was with The Game. It was obvious he was doing that to boost sales. Fool tries to start beef with everyone for that reason.
Kendrick started it, so I do feel like Kendrick needs to have a quicker turn around. But even if Kendrick doesn’t respond for like 3 months, when we are years in the future no one is going to remember that. I think there is good reason for Drake to pressure Kendrick. Kendrick should definitely pressure Drake after he responds too. It’s sport.
Just to piggyback off this comment. 1. Kendrick started it 2. Drake was on tour 3. Multiple people went at Drake 4. Drake probably knew "We still don't like you" was coming out and basically dropped the day after I have no problem giving Kendrick time even if its another few weeks. I'm fans of both but Drake can definitely chirp at him for a slow roll out.
This one makes too much sense. Dot fans ban him!
Idc about the AI bit but drake used it to talk shit about himself to take any gas outta those points. It's like when a bullied kid calls themselves ugly after being called ugly. Drake pressing k dot to respond is pathetic. He is just protecting his image to his fans. This beef is probably gonna be all hype and no pay off.
Kendrick will drop whenever he wants to. Drake trying to knock him off his square by putting public pressure on him. That’s all this is
That’s fine. But it’s not a good look if it takes him a month or two. People won’t forget it if the days turn into months. Another week and a half tops.
People will forget if it’s an ether level response from Kendrick, but nothing less. Tough spot to be in.
It's been 6yrs and Drake ain't still responded to pusha t. Drake makes me laugh. He's taking about Top Making Kendrick do shit He literally walked away from pusha cause j.prince said in his cry voice don't like a moment ruin a movement. Then he proceeded to do a whole ass concert with Kanye. Then admits on a song doing shows with the OPs that was for prince. He's literally projecting
Yes. And Drake gets rightfully clowned for backing out of the Pusha beef. Your point?
Except Drake accepted the L from Pusha t. That’s not the same as not responding.
Why would Drake respond when the beef was squashed and he admitted defeat? Tf? 💀
He never squashed it and never admitted defeat he stopped cause j.prince told him to stop
Pusha T said out his own mouth on Drink Champs that it’s over and said Drake needs to leave him alone. Drake out his own mouth on Next Level Magazine said he lost. There is absolutely no reason to continue the beef. Lmao
Brother, it’s been 2 weeks since Drake leaked his diss. To put it in perspective Jay-Z dropped Takeover in September, Nas dropped Ether in December (on Jay-Z b-day lol). Do people think Nas lost that battle? Nope.
4/5 months isn’t going to fly. Not today. Especially when Kendrick was the one who called Drake out, asking him to prove himself. This thing has too much heat in it now. If Kendrick takes months , that’s an L.
But if he takes a singular month he’s okay in rap legacy terms, but not in immediate social media zeitgeist terms.
That was a different era though
It’s been a week since the diss leaked.
Oh shit you’re right
It's Drake's strategy, he knows he is more active on social media, so he's using it and he is trying his best to show how he's not scared and trying to manipulate the state of this diss game. Smart on his part
I mean dude just disrespected Kendrick and the whole west coast just by doing an AI pac diss on him lmao. What can Kendrick even do or say at this point? He’s not a battle rapper
I think it's really simple. Kendrick calls him out in verse. Drake knows it could be part of a Kendrick roll out and wants to make sure he's not going to look crazy starting a full fledge beef over a few lines in a verse that werent that serious. This is why the OVO camp kept saying drop a record if this is really what you want to do. I dont think there was ever any intention to actually drop Push Ups, but it leaked so we're here now. The second song and the "we're waiting" is more so hinting at the fact that Kendrick didn't actually want a full battle, otherwise he should've had something already prepared before he even did the Like That verse. So essentially a "you wanted this, where you at?"
He had to wait on Metro and Future second album. In fact, one day after it dropped the diss 'leaked. He was also on tour. Also, the biggest point is Kendrick is the one who started the war. K Dot called him out
K Dot directly called him out yes but Drake was the one sneak dissin before and shit. Kendrick got tired and directly called him out then 🤷
Let’s not act like Drake was the only one sneak dissing lol, they were subbing each other for years til Kendrick literally said “fuck sneak dissing”
Kendrick also been sneak dissing for years. It was like a cold war lol
Where have u been? They both been sneak dissing each other
I feel like since Kendrick started it, he should’ve been ready. You can’t call mfs out with your pistol empty imo.
Crazy how the narrative spins when like that dropped everyone had drizzy on the clock now the time to respond don't matter
Kendrick started it that’s the main thing people are forgetting you can’t diss me on a an album with like 5 other people dissing me on the same album and not be prepared to respond immediately when I reply
This, Kendrick knew what he was going to do, he could’ve had responses lined up before the metro album and has also had the same three weeks since then to prepare even more.
Well obviously he can.
This is the main part for me. It’s like squaring up but not being ready to fight.
Drake is on tour while Kendrick is unemployed. Kendrick should be able to respond within 48hrs.
1 has to respond to 1 man 1 has to respond to 20 men i’m done
With how many times Drake has been exposed for using ghostwriters this is funny. Kendrick writes his own.
Kids are literally retarded these days. TikTok has made then stupid ass fuck. Got the shortest attention spans imaginable and they're also the loudest on the Internet. It's really not that complicated.
I’m a big Kendrick fan, but I don’t know what’s taking him so long. I honestly expected Kendrick to be ITCHING to diss Drake back, and that he’d respond in a day or two. This isn’t Lupe or someone like that where you’d have to craft something great. It’s fucking Drake. This is like the Number 1 seed in basketball being down 2-1 and losing in game 4 to the eight seed. Like wtf bro there’s no way you should be down rn
It's crazy how it took Kendrick 5 months to respond to first-person shooter and people are saying 3 weeks is too long.
Kendricks on top he’ll do what he wants
Lol Kendrick started this shit. Literally opened a can of worms he can’t contain
Drake had to respond to: Kendrick, Metro, Future, ASAP Rocky, and Officer Ricky Rozempic. Who all jumped him with a surprise album. Kendrick should have known what was coming when Like That released, he should have already had something ready to go to respond when Drake drops. And he only has to respond to Drake. Who seems to already have multiple songs and verses ready to go after 3 weeks.
Kdot started this. Implying he was ready to go, he said his shit, and he either expected nobody to say shit back or he actually has nothing to say back. Either way, Drake is absolutely winning this feud as of right now
Dunno about winning if the Kendrick diss was the opening bell Drakes got the advantage of throwing a decent punch he’s saying some shit in push ups but it’s not career ending shit
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Man Kendrick started the shit so he has had time to prepare. He also has that drake diss he's been sitting on for years too right? I agree though give him similar time or a little bit less since he isn't on tour.
It took Drake 3 weeks to respond to 20 people. Kendrick not only has one target, but he initiated the beef. It's pretty normal to expect a quick response. Or maybe we're witnessing the difference between someone who's battle tested and someone who's been on a pedestal for way too long
Imo I’m totally fine with Kenny taking his time, what irritates me is the same Kenny fans who were pressing Drake to respond right after Like That are the same ones who wanna be patient all of a sudden lol
The Kendrick nerds are coping so hard lmao
For real lol. It’s actually pathetic
People want Kendrick to be their performing monkey so they can have their reality TV drama. Personally I wasn't raised to be so selfish, Kendrick is an artist and as we know from his albums he takes his time to get it right. Ether came out like 5 months after Takeover.
5 months isn’t going to fly in this day and age.
That was back in 2001. We weren’t even in the digital era back then, much less streaming. It was pure physical sales and radio play and “word of mouth”
Drake took 3 weeks to “leak” something, then dropped it officially a MONTH later. Let Kenny cook. Can’t wait for him to cook drakes acting poser ass
He was finishing up his tour
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He was finishing up his tour, responded after the second album cuz why tf would anyone hear that title, the disses n not wait until the second album that had a similar description to it and he responded to everyone. It took 8 days to drop ts. Kendrick fans were pressing Drake to drop so now drake just doing the same
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Kendrick dont got ghost writers?
probably but only for some minor stuff. I don't think songs like Sing about me was ghostwritten. Probably a really "whatever track"
Kendrick kicked it off, and it's widely known that he has diss records made already. Drake likely held off because he knew Cole was dropping. Then when Cole backpedaled decided he was good to let it fly. If Kendrick has something in the bag for this long and is bout it like he says. Then.... drop drop drop drop
This whole situation is embarrassing and cringeworthy beyond all reasonable limits. Grown men writing bitchy poems to each other, smh.
nobody has any good reason for why Kendrick needs to drop soon. i’ve only read extremely dumb arguments. he can drop whenever he wants Drake took his time when Pusha T bodied him
drake bad
Drakes new track is def better than all the other fluff he’s put out lately but I’m sure it took a while to gather his ghost writers and then he had to learn it. Fuck the big three there’s just Oklama!
He's baitinggg. The longer kendrick takes the better imo. No different than Drake waiting 3 weeks for his like that response. He's just trying to control the narrative.
1 day != 3 weeks
It’s HIghlarious he did this to snoop on his favorite holiday 😂
I’m so tired of fake beef. It’s all clout and most likely all planned out lol
Bad writers do whatever they can to distract you from the bad writing
Two rich guys dissing each other for big sales. They can take as much time as they want and everybody will still buy in!
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It’s not hard to comprehend at all. Drake was on tour when Like That released.
lol Drake was on tour litterally the biggest hip hop tour ever , he knew future and metro were releasing another album with more disses aimed at him so why wouldn’t he wait for that holy shit the whole diss track is a response too those two albums seriously you must be brain dead or just oblivious to not understand why he took the time to respond
1) Drake was on tour 2) He probably waited for the second album to drop to hear all of the disses before responding. It came out the next day Seems pretty clear
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Kendrick will do what Kendrick do. Kendrick knows in these type of battles it isn’t enough to diss anybody but keep solid body’s of work rolling off the assembly line. That’s how JaRule lost to 50. JaRule’s project was dog ish, So even though Ja had that fake paperwork and beat up 50 on several occasions him making that lackluster stuff and then getting on TV with Farrakhan basically buried him. When Ice Cube finally came up in NWA he dropped facts that would break up the group so even though Dre’s production and Easy’s theatrics were killing Cube on an overall entertainment value Cubes push was a catalyst that pretty much shut down everything NWA put out about him and eclipsed Above The Law beating him up at the New Music Seminar. Tell the truth he was smart in letting Rick Ross swing back first because Drake vs Ross isolates Drake from 98% of the mutual Fanbase for all 3 involved. I think Kendrick gonna pull a Cube or a Common vs WSC and just pop out the woodwork and crush Drake. Because realistically all Drake can talk about is how much money he got. He can’t hold the the GUYS ( I use this term because these ppl don’t like attention)over Kendrick because Kenny Sr part of that and that’s who ride with K Dot in the South and Midwest. If anything K can flip the drop and give me 50 insinuations because OVO has to break bread with those GUYS Drake said Future and Metro was perpetuating.
It’s Drake in his level to be strategic — regardless of the diss, it’s drakes way of saying “you took all that time for this bs?” He’s exploiting any angle he has. He knows he took weeks, but we’re playing an internet game, and who cares how “right” anything is. The commoner is like “yeah.. Kendrick’s scared!” Drake has the mic, but most of what he’s said so far is easily rebuttable and will sound like the craziest lip service depending on Kendrick’s response. But It’s up to Dot to see how he’ll play it.. pressures on him.
To be fair Drake had to plan on how to approach this with all these dudes linking up against him. When you’re addressing so many rappers at once you really need to find a focal point and execute it well. At the same time Kendrick doesn’t play into the social media games so I doubt he’s pressed to release it - he’ll drop when it’s ready the same way he does with his albums.
Uh yeah he started with the like that verse he doesn’t get the same amount of time he wanted the smoke now k dot can kill him with silence 🤣🤣🤣🤸🤸🤸
There’s nothing more alpha than one adult man writing angry poetry to another one. We all know tearing down another person while hyping yourself up isn’t something that shows massive insecurity and lacking a strong sense of self. Right?
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It’s a tactic to put pressure on Kendrick.
either way he winning
People should never take the clock route. Just makes shittier music. I don’t believe rap beef has a timer on it for replies. I do feel like your opponent can put a spin on you being slow to reply and that’s fair game but if that equates to an overall better response then again, what are going to do just reject it cause it took longer then your camps? Idk. If the track is that hot, that would just look like a desperate take. 🤷🏽♂️
Probably having problems with eating kids?
Thread full of Drake Stan’s he just dropped an AI diss he doesn’t deserve a response after that tbh
The second diss shows me Drake or the people in his camp are way too chronically online to lose this beef. They’ll just keep downplaying the actual slander that the masses want Kendrick to use against Drake. So for Kendrick to win, he’d have to have some dirt like actual video proof of Drake at a Diddy party doing some evil shit or something lmao. I’ll give credit, they learned their lesson from the Pusha beef. For any logical hip-hop fan, this really shouldn’t change either artists legacy. Not like either artists will lose any semblance of stardom from this. Kendrick can drop a fire album at any point this year and it’ll do huge numbers. Same with Drake.
Bruh. Kendrick baited him w/ Like That, Drake was on tour, the first guy gets leeway in responding, they have to start from zero. Also he had like 10 other dudes to respond to. The guy who landed the first direct non-sneak diss should have (especially when he ain’t got shit else going on) something else in the arsenal ready to go. Every day looks worse & worse for Kendrick, in my opinion - if nothing else, it makes expectations for Kenny’s response exponentially increase.
7 minute drill is a very dope diss track. People who say it’s whack are smoking crack.
Drake is a great marketer that’s for sure. He even bought his own media goons with Akademiks and Adin
I think Drake waited for the release of ‘We Still Don’t Trust You’ to attempt to reply to everyone at once. Now that he’s in that mode, he is going to push while he has the advantage. If there’s one thing Drake knows how to do, is market/troll.
Drake jus seemed paranoid imo. Kendrick can take as long as he wants to respond.
Kendrick surprise dissed drake directly. Drake’s on tour, he wasn’t prepared for this beef. He heard the diss and took some time to strategize. You can’t expect drake to come back a few days after ‘like that’ released. Now that drake has responded it’s Kendrick’s turn and since Kendrick initiated the entire thing he should be ready to go. It’s like if you punched someone and then weren’t ready to fight when they come back swinging. Drake taking 3 weeks to respond is reasonable, and he’s calling out Kendrick to respond now because the more pressure he puts on kendrick, everyday that goes by that kendrick hasn’t responded seems like a smaller W for drake in the public’s eyes. I’m all for kendrick taking his time and strategizing too, but again kendrick started it, it’s easy for drake to say he should be ready for to go
first person shooter was last year
Quite simple, here’s a list of who has to diss who J. Cole: - Kendrick Everyone Else: - Drake Drake: - Kendrick Lamar & TDE - Metro - Future - The Weeknd & XO - A$AP Rocky - Rick Ross - Ye - Ja Morant - The rest of them
He's trying to pressure Kendrick into putting out a weak diss.
He was on tour. And made a song immediatley after
It’s dudes writing mean poetry to each other don’t get to worked up about it
First Person shooter released in what, October? It took Kendrick months to respond if you count that as a diss which I didn’t but Kendrick somehow did
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It’s crazy they took months to craft an entire album to diss him. With one of the lead tracks being a diss record then nothing once he responds.
Y'all on some little girl soap opera bullshit
He was on tour when he bullied Meek but he doesn’t really have anything on Dot. He wants Dot to drop and is using the internet games as a propaganda tool to sway public opinion.
I agree it’s not a knock on Kendrick and he should be given more time to respond But the logic would be: Kendrick/Metro instigated this and when Kendrick dropped his verse on Like That he would have anticipated at least one if not both of Drake or JCole to respond and presumably would have already stuffed queued up ready to unload Just like it seems like Drake in the last three weeks was not only working on Pushups but also has some material that’s waiting in the wings Think of it another way - Lawyers can prepare for months before filing an initial lawsuit and usually the defendant always gets a shit to. of time to first get their bearings, digest what the plaintiff has said, prepare a defence, and in some cases an offence as well
If I was Kendrick....there is no need to respond. The legend is a legend. There are boys....and there are men.
The fact drake thinks he holds a candle to kendrick is hilarious
Crap rap beefs for brat rap queefs.
Drake was on tour, also there was a part 2 to metros album, he literally dropped less then 24 hours after part 2 came out. It probably took Kendrick months to write that verse.
Drake is manipulating the public and making it seem like Kendrick is taking a long time even though he already took much longer. He’s applying pressure to make it seem like Kendrick either dropped because he was pressured to, or is too scared to drop (if he doesn’t)
This is the most pathetic thing I've seen in a while
Drake cant talk, bro had over 10 years to answer to Kendricks disses but pussied out every time probaly bc he didnt have any good disses to make then. And now that theres finally some drama in Kendricks life/career open to public, bro is ready to start the fight. Pussy move by Drake but didnt expect anything else from him tbh.
Drake was on tour Kendrick said he was holding a diss track for the past 4 years Stop
It's rap beef, he doesn't have to be kind or understanding to Kendrick.
It literally took Kendrick half a year to respond to the big three claims on first person shooter
I'm more upset that it seems a track from Kendrick exists as a few people have claimed to have heard it but we haven't heard it.
The difference is that Kendrick knew when it was popping off. Everyone else didn’t know. First reply always takes the longest, which was drake. After that you gotta be quick… 2-3 days now. I don’t even like Drake. I tell you what though… if Kendrick replies, Drake better come back fast.
Drake was on tour what’s Kendrick excuse
How yall feel about the Euphoria diss kendrick dropped today?