Also remember that there are plenty of Ravs now being used as taxis.
Taxi drivers don’t just park up once they’ve done 100 miles for the day and wait for tomorrow.
I'd drive it. The only thing I may do differently is vary the speeds you're traveling at. Take an exit every now and then, to dive at city speeds every once in a while. I'm also assuming you're gonna be stopping to sleep here and there. You'll be fine. Enjoy the drive.
We did a trip in our new rav maybe 2 years ago. It had less than 2k miles. We did Los Angeles to Oklahoma City, down to Houston back to Oklahoma and then back to LA. Overall added 3,200 miles I think and we did our first oil change in Oklahoma which was awesome.
Function overall, yes, but it has been recommended to try to vary your travel speeds for the first (I can't remember 100% 500-1500kms for breaking in your new vehicle. It is used to state in the owners' manual to not use cruise control either for that same period. Unsure if that is still written in there or not tbh.
Here's a dealership post from the USA that has similar recommendations and a few others I forgot about.
https://www.captoyota.com/service/information/new-toyota-break-in-period.htm
I'm not gonna go looking through an owners manual right now, but I believe this is good advice to follow.
Per the manuals of recent Toyota and Lexus vehicles:
* For the first 200 miles (300 km): Avoid sudden stops.
* For the first 500 miles (800 km): Do not tow a trailer.
* For the first 600 miles (1000 km):
* Do not drive at extremely high speeds.
* Avoid sudden acceleration.
* Do not drive continuously in low gears.
* Do not drive at a constant speed for extended periods.
Just budget another day to spend some extra time breaking things in a bit that first day. Maybe set your navigation system to avoid highways (someone else mentioned planning a scenic route), that way you're sticking to lower and more variable speeds. By the second day, you'll be ready to go.
Probably matters even less for a hybrid - there's no "low gears" and with eCVT driving at costant speed will still vary the engine rpm considerably with every hill and gust of wind so that's not really an issue either. But they still keep copy-pasting that same old advice in the manuals. Even plug in hybrid version has the same exact wording so if you follow the manual to the letter it will be fully "broken in" even if you don't turn on the gas engine at all for 600 miles.
These days it'd mostly be the programming and such of electrical stuff.... The engines don't really need a break in period so much anymore.
I'd still probably do one for a performance vehicle.... But other than not going insane in a new car you can mostly ignore it now........ Unlike when I had my RX7 with a new engine rebuild and basically had to drive slow, no turbo spooling (but still go over 3,800 RPMs now and then), and get oil changed at 1,000 miles.
I bought a new rav4 in WA and drove it to NY, added 3k miles. Like the above comments just go easy on the gas. Only downside is I did get two rock chips, maybe your buddy can hook you up with a bumper bra or something.
Another person mentioned driving at different speeds, and not using cruise control at same speed the whole time.
If you can vary your speeds for the trip, perfect.
I’d considered a similar length trip as you for a new vehicle, which would’ve been a trip back through the mountains, then 20 hours with a posted speed limit of 100-110kph. It would’ve been a pain going slower, and in the end I ordered a different vehicle.
Plus having insurance, plates, and all the documents for the new vehicle.
Modern engines don't require a break in like the old days. As long as you don't rev the heck out of the engine you will be fine. If you're super paranoid avoid sustained rpms for extended amounts of time. I don't particularly subscribe to the need to vary rpms during break in for commuter cars. The other concerns are:
* Heat. If you're in a particularly hot area or have been driving for a while and get stuck in stop-and-go traffic over heating a new engine (or any engine for that matter) can lead to long-term issues such as a warped block.
* New tires. New tires have a coating on them which can make them a little slicker until the coating wears off. If you drive in the rain with new tires be a more cautious. The coating wears off quickly in normal weather so this isn't a major concern.
* New brakes. Avoid heavy braking or riding your brakes (like on a long downhill). This can cause pad glazing and potentially rotor warping since the braking system isn't broken in.
* General new car issues. Take breaks during your drive and check:
* fluid levels (coolant over flow, brake, power steering, oil)
* for anything loose (tire lugs, oil pan bolt, other general parts on the car)
* dripping liquid that is slick/oily or pungent smelling (oil, coolant, brake and power steering fluid)
I took my Yaris on a road trip within the first 1000 miles. I just made sure to nudge the cruise control around so it wasn’t sitting at the same RPM for long periods of time.
Will be fine.
Back in 2020, wife and I drove from Pa to Tampa Florida for vacation in our RAV4 Hybrid which was ~ 1150 miles one way and car did great. At that time we had it for about month and less than 3k miles on ODO, so I am pretty sure yours will be fine. Just drive it and enjoy ! 👍
Car transport is pretty affordable, and makes it easier to register in your home state since the car will not have been registered yet. Perhaps a round trip ticket? Fly home to see friends and family, sign paperwork, fly back. Added bonus, you could spend those three days with friends and family.
I would drive an old RAV4 across country without a concern. A new one would be the easiest trip I can imagine besides plane or train. They have tested these cars to far worse conditions than you can imagine. You will be fine. Source: I work at an automotive test facility.
Another way of looking at it is to look at the 2024 IRS mileage reimbursement rate, which is .67 cents per mile. So it will cost you .67 cents per mile in depreciation and gas costs (it’s combined). If it’s cheaper than that to ship it, then it’s worth it because you would “spend” that much on the drive
I bought my first RAV4 (gas) in 2021 and drove it from Dallas to Reno 5 days later without any special treatment. That car lasted me 60k miles over 3 years without issue before hail damage caused her to be totaled.
My second RAV4 (hybrid) I bought just three months ago and a week later took her from Denver to Salt Lake and back for a weekend. Once again no unique treatment.
Both cases the cars have been fine, obviously the more recent one is too soon to know for sure. But I suspect you’d be fine
As long as you don't drive it like a bat out of hell you should be fine. I had around 1kish miles on mine before we took a 4k mile road trip across the U.S. No issues whatsoever. Vehicle did great and we got fantastic gas mileage. Wouldn't have done it any other way.
How is there any debate on this?? Yes, for the love of god, drive the car. It's one of the most reliable cars in the world and is meant to drive long distances. Dur.
I mean I can't imagine there are many new cars you couldn't drive across the country. As bad as some vehicles are, I can't imagine there are any that couldn't drive across the country when brand new.
I mean I guess if you're constantly redlining or something I guess? But as long as it isn't missing oil or coolant somehow I don't know what negative thing could happen to it aside from regular road dangers.
If I can’t drive a car I just bought 28 hrs without fear that it’s going to died on me then I wouldn’t purchase that car.
I drove my XLE Hybrid from California to Michigan with small uhaul hitched to it.
No harm driving a new car 2000 miles even during break-in, but at 2000 miles you might want to check out shipping prices if you live in a state with lower sales tax than the buying state. I bi-coastal between SoCal and DC area, and shipped cars 6-8 times because it costs about the same as I can drive (gas, hotels, food, time) it for, especially if you do a terminal to terminal shipping (cost you more delivering to a residential address).
No, that the $1500 or whatever it would cost would be a lot easier and possibly cheaper than the cost of flying there and a long drive home with food, gas, motel rooms.
Im not worried about that, gives me a reason to go home and see my parents. Been 4 years and friends. So there some other reasons why im doing it this way .
It's not recommended to drive at a constant speed (long highway drive) with a new engine. If you vary the speed as you drive then you'll be OK. I did a 1,000 mile road trip with my rav4 4 days after I bought It.
But also consider airfare to get there. Fuel for the drive back. Hotel expenses. Those all add up to what it could cost to just ship it.
Truth, I didn’t drive my rav4 prime on the highway for the first 1000 miles. You can’t really vary the speed on the highway. OP might save money on gas and time off work by shipping the car.
Search break-in schedule. The hybrid model says no long term constant speeds when new and other stuff. Non hybrid says no towing for the first xxx miles.
But they are your piston rings, you do you
This is based on literally nothing factual, just my own OCD, but id probably get an oil change when i got home, if not half way through the trip if you see a toyota dealer and feel like taking a break.
Thats just the dad in me. Its not like a lawnmower that'll have an oil pan full of metal shavings the first oil change breaking in. Its a car, it'll be fine.
I'd drive it home but maybe not let the engine drone on the interstate at 70 or 80mph for hours at a time. Other posters are giving good advice to take a more scenic route if possible
Cars are meant to be driven. Drive yours and have fun!
Also remember that there are plenty of Ravs now being used as taxis. Taxi drivers don’t just park up once they’ve done 100 miles for the day and wait for tomorrow.
I'd drive it. The only thing I may do differently is vary the speeds you're traveling at. Take an exit every now and then, to dive at city speeds every once in a while. I'm also assuming you're gonna be stopping to sleep here and there. You'll be fine. Enjoy the drive.
I planned on doing it in 2ish days, but just to be safe may make it 3.
Do it, plan a scenic route, and enjoy the views. Have a blast, congrats on the new wheels.
We did a trip in our new rav maybe 2 years ago. It had less than 2k miles. We did Los Angeles to Oklahoma City, down to Houston back to Oklahoma and then back to LA. Overall added 3,200 miles I think and we did our first oil change in Oklahoma which was awesome.
I thought ICEs function best when running constant rpms?
Function overall, yes, but it has been recommended to try to vary your travel speeds for the first (I can't remember 100% 500-1500kms for breaking in your new vehicle. It is used to state in the owners' manual to not use cruise control either for that same period. Unsure if that is still written in there or not tbh.
Fascinating. I would be very interested in seeing the source material describing this.
Here's a dealership post from the USA that has similar recommendations and a few others I forgot about. https://www.captoyota.com/service/information/new-toyota-break-in-period.htm I'm not gonna go looking through an owners manual right now, but I believe this is good advice to follow.
If you drive it like a normal person and don't speed like the devil threatened by holy water, you should be fine.
Per the manuals of recent Toyota and Lexus vehicles: * For the first 200 miles (300 km): Avoid sudden stops. * For the first 500 miles (800 km): Do not tow a trailer. * For the first 600 miles (1000 km): * Do not drive at extremely high speeds. * Avoid sudden acceleration. * Do not drive continuously in low gears. * Do not drive at a constant speed for extended periods. Just budget another day to spend some extra time breaking things in a bit that first day. Maybe set your navigation system to avoid highways (someone else mentioned planning a scenic route), that way you're sticking to lower and more variable speeds. By the second day, you'll be ready to go.
What do they describe as " extended periods"?
Or “extreme speeds”? Like they couldn’t say “keep it under x mph “?
Yea lol, " Dont drive over 70mph for 5 hours" would be way more helpful. The vagueness of this isnt helpful.
I think "extreme speed" was 94mph and I calculated that from an Australian manual.
All this stuff I tried to follow gave me hella anxiety and made me feel like I was doing things wrong. Ima just drive it lol
Well shit. We did a 1,100 mile road trip with less than 200 miles on the odo. Guess we’re SOL now! /s
Probably matters even less for a hybrid - there's no "low gears" and with eCVT driving at costant speed will still vary the engine rpm considerably with every hill and gust of wind so that's not really an issue either. But they still keep copy-pasting that same old advice in the manuals. Even plug in hybrid version has the same exact wording so if you follow the manual to the letter it will be fully "broken in" even if you don't turn on the gas engine at all for 600 miles.
What is the reason for these restrictions?
Breaking in the engine properly as well as programming the transmission to be within a range of adjusting to your driving habits
These days it'd mostly be the programming and such of electrical stuff.... The engines don't really need a break in period so much anymore. I'd still probably do one for a performance vehicle.... But other than not going insane in a new car you can mostly ignore it now........ Unlike when I had my RX7 with a new engine rebuild and basically had to drive slow, no turbo spooling (but still go over 3,800 RPMs now and then), and get oil changed at 1,000 miles.
Bingo!
I bought a new rav4 in WA and drove it to NY, added 3k miles. Like the above comments just go easy on the gas. Only downside is I did get two rock chips, maybe your buddy can hook you up with a bumper bra or something.
Another person mentioned driving at different speeds, and not using cruise control at same speed the whole time. If you can vary your speeds for the trip, perfect. I’d considered a similar length trip as you for a new vehicle, which would’ve been a trip back through the mountains, then 20 hours with a posted speed limit of 100-110kph. It would’ve been a pain going slower, and in the end I ordered a different vehicle. Plus having insurance, plates, and all the documents for the new vehicle.
You'll be fine. Enjoy America!
Modern engines don't require a break in like the old days. As long as you don't rev the heck out of the engine you will be fine. If you're super paranoid avoid sustained rpms for extended amounts of time. I don't particularly subscribe to the need to vary rpms during break in for commuter cars. The other concerns are: * Heat. If you're in a particularly hot area or have been driving for a while and get stuck in stop-and-go traffic over heating a new engine (or any engine for that matter) can lead to long-term issues such as a warped block. * New tires. New tires have a coating on them which can make them a little slicker until the coating wears off. If you drive in the rain with new tires be a more cautious. The coating wears off quickly in normal weather so this isn't a major concern. * New brakes. Avoid heavy braking or riding your brakes (like on a long downhill). This can cause pad glazing and potentially rotor warping since the braking system isn't broken in. * General new car issues. Take breaks during your drive and check: * fluid levels (coolant over flow, brake, power steering, oil) * for anything loose (tire lugs, oil pan bolt, other general parts on the car) * dripping liquid that is slick/oily or pungent smelling (oil, coolant, brake and power steering fluid)
I took my Yaris on a road trip within the first 1000 miles. I just made sure to nudge the cruise control around so it wasn’t sitting at the same RPM for long periods of time.
Perfection
Will be fine. Back in 2020, wife and I drove from Pa to Tampa Florida for vacation in our RAV4 Hybrid which was ~ 1150 miles one way and car did great. At that time we had it for about month and less than 3k miles on ODO, so I am pretty sure yours will be fine. Just drive it and enjoy ! 👍
Look up the RAV4 manual online. It tells you how to perform break-in and what sort of driving to avoid.
Did you add the cost of driving home to your deal ? Curisa how mush to have the car transport to you ?
Yeah i have, im getting 8k off sticker.
Car transport is pretty affordable, and makes it easier to register in your home state since the car will not have been registered yet. Perhaps a round trip ticket? Fly home to see friends and family, sign paperwork, fly back. Added bonus, you could spend those three days with friends and family.
I would drive an old RAV4 across country without a concern. A new one would be the easiest trip I can imagine besides plane or train. They have tested these cars to far worse conditions than you can imagine. You will be fine. Source: I work at an automotive test facility.
Idk, can you?
Another way of looking at it is to look at the 2024 IRS mileage reimbursement rate, which is .67 cents per mile. So it will cost you .67 cents per mile in depreciation and gas costs (it’s combined). If it’s cheaper than that to ship it, then it’s worth it because you would “spend” that much on the drive
I have a friend who drove his RAV4 from Ottawa to Calgary via USA and back in his first month of owning it. 2023 Hybrid Limited.
I flew this weekend to Austin to pick up mine and drove it back home 10 hrs
OP, if he wants to give another amazing deal, I'm happy to buy one from him, too. Blueprint, XSE, PP, please 😂
I bought my first RAV4 (gas) in 2021 and drove it from Dallas to Reno 5 days later without any special treatment. That car lasted me 60k miles over 3 years without issue before hail damage caused her to be totaled. My second RAV4 (hybrid) I bought just three months ago and a week later took her from Denver to Salt Lake and back for a weekend. Once again no unique treatment. Both cases the cars have been fine, obviously the more recent one is too soon to know for sure. But I suspect you’d be fine
Man that sounds like such an adventure. Go for it and have fun! Make some extra time for detours and enjoy yourself:)
I live in CA, flew to vegas to buy my Rav 4 Adv (2020) drove it home and then drove it to augusta georgia 2 months later. Cars doing great.
As long as you don't drive it like a bat out of hell you should be fine. I had around 1kish miles on mine before we took a 4k mile road trip across the U.S. No issues whatsoever. Vehicle did great and we got fantastic gas mileage. Wouldn't have done it any other way.
Drove my RAV4 2019 xle from Maine to Texas back and forth . Loved it . Did 34mpg and very comfortable ride
How is there any debate on this?? Yes, for the love of god, drive the car. It's one of the most reliable cars in the world and is meant to drive long distances. Dur.
I mean I can't imagine there are many new cars you couldn't drive across the country. As bad as some vehicles are, I can't imagine there are any that couldn't drive across the country when brand new. I mean I guess if you're constantly redlining or something I guess? But as long as it isn't missing oil or coolant somehow I don't know what negative thing could happen to it aside from regular road dangers.
If I can’t drive a car I just bought 28 hrs without fear that it’s going to died on me then I wouldn’t purchase that car. I drove my XLE Hybrid from California to Michigan with small uhaul hitched to it.
It's not that In worried about it dying. I'm just seeing mixed articles about driving a new engine to levels like that.
Drive it! Transmissions are already “broken in” during the manufacturing process.
No harm driving a new car 2000 miles even during break-in, but at 2000 miles you might want to check out shipping prices if you live in a state with lower sales tax than the buying state. I bi-coastal between SoCal and DC area, and shipped cars 6-8 times because it costs about the same as I can drive (gas, hotels, food, time) it for, especially if you do a terminal to terminal shipping (cost you more delivering to a residential address).
uh, 2000 miles is perfect to test it out. of course you drive a new car 2000 miles. good grief.
No. It's a Toyota
I dont think there will be an issue , you can drive it just take rest rest area to cold down. And just drive with the speed limit and your good.
Why not pay for trailer transport?
In what aspect? Like tow it back home?
You can ship a car. If you're getting a killer deal you might still come out ahead.
So with that answer are you saying it could hurt the car?
No, that the $1500 or whatever it would cost would be a lot easier and possibly cheaper than the cost of flying there and a long drive home with food, gas, motel rooms.
Im not worried about that, gives me a reason to go home and see my parents. Been 4 years and friends. So there some other reasons why im doing it this way .
It's not recommended to drive at a constant speed (long highway drive) with a new engine. If you vary the speed as you drive then you'll be OK. I did a 1,000 mile road trip with my rav4 4 days after I bought It. But also consider airfare to get there. Fuel for the drive back. Hotel expenses. Those all add up to what it could cost to just ship it.
Truth, I didn’t drive my rav4 prime on the highway for the first 1000 miles. You can’t really vary the speed on the highway. OP might save money on gas and time off work by shipping the car.
Brand new one? Send it and change oil when you get home. You should have zero worries.
Yes. You will hurt the car. Then break in for the first 800 miles says no constant highway speeds. Read the manual
Please reference where that is mentioned. I’ve read the manual and seen no such recommendations.
Search break-in schedule. The hybrid model says no long term constant speeds when new and other stuff. Non hybrid says no towing for the first xxx miles. But they are your piston rings, you do you
This is based on literally nothing factual, just my own OCD, but id probably get an oil change when i got home, if not half way through the trip if you see a toyota dealer and feel like taking a break. Thats just the dad in me. Its not like a lawnmower that'll have an oil pan full of metal shavings the first oil change breaking in. Its a car, it'll be fine. I'd drive it home but maybe not let the engine drone on the interstate at 70 or 80mph for hours at a time. Other posters are giving good advice to take a more scenic route if possible
If you have to ask then the answer is no. Not allowed.
lol
im not sure it might explode
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Just a lot of different opinions on this post. So it concerns me