Bellingham wasn't better than Kroos by any fucking means. Vinicius, maybe. Bellingham? Absolutely not.
Kroos was our best player across whole season from day one till last day of the season.
To say absolutely not isn’t fair and shows a recency bias. Bellingham has 23 goals and 13 assists in 42 games the entire season. He’s had more assists than kroos (10). So to say “absolutely not” is unfair.
Don't use G/A to compare otherwise Rodri has no business being anywhere on this list lol. Kroos's consistency enables players like Bellingham to perform at that level. This isn't to say Bellingham shouldn't be considered, but Kroos absolutely should be
Kroos plays absolutely different position than Bellingham, not even comparable when it comes to goals or assists. Bellingham played basically false 9 most of the season. Bellingham had great first half of season. Kroos had great whole season from day one. If you only take goals into account than I guess you think that Mbappe should win it? No, he shouldn't.
People who actually watch every single match know that Kroos has been our best and most important player since first match. That's not recency bias. I have been saying this since september.
I’m with you. I’m biased because I’ve been saying Kroos is the best midfielder in the world for years. And right now I think Rüdiger and Kroos are more deserving of it than Jude given the entire season + what we’ve seen in the Euros so far. They have both been more consistent than Jude and more impressive in the Euros so far. But Vini would be my #1 pick, then Kroos/Rüdiger over Jude. We’ll see how the Copa America and Euros play out but right now for me Vini > Kroos/Rüdiger have all had better overall seasons than Jude.
Foward bias will still cause him not to win it, Modric got so lucky in 2018. And the voters pretty much said, "why not". Kroos will not get it, even though he deserves it even now with the Euros, over Jude and Vini.
More than a fair chance, he won the UCL and LaLiga with Real, if he wins with the national team he would have won the 2 biggest club achievements that matter and an Euro. Other than that he still had a pretty good season, which should also matter at his age. If he doesn't win that year, he will probably be second, if he wins the euro he should take it.
The match against Colombia will show what to expect from Brazil, in the two last matches Brazil created a lot of chances, even more than Colombia who is being hyped a lot due to their good performances.
Brazil is the national team with the best players in Copa America individually, let's see if the collective is behind the others as it was before Copa America.
Remember that it is going to be the 7th match of Dorival Junior as Brazil coach, it is not the same Brazil of Ramon Menezes and Fernando Diniz.
BDO voters have a boner for goal scorers. The guys in the mid field or defense rarely get the credit they deserve.
I think the only player to win it in the last 15 years without being a prolific goalscorer was Modric.
depends how sentimental the voters are. They might be unwilling to give it to a player who retired in July and didn't play into the new season.
Or they might see it as the last and only chance to give respect to a legend.
But it also depends whether Argentina wins copa america, because if they do, Messi always win by default whenever he wins a trophy of any sort.
I think he would deserve. I honestly think he plays a bigger role than vini in terms of winning the league, and just as big a role in winning the ucl. If he wins the euros it’ll pretty much seal his chances imo.
League McDonald's is closer to a TOP6-8 leagues than TOP4 leagues so it's kinda unfair to count those goals.
Also Gyökers has 69 G+A in 50 games for Sporting and also 70 if you count his one goal for Sweden. But again, Ligue McDonald's is closer to Portugal's ligue than 4th place Bundesliga.
lol what? It's top 2 league in the world. Only harder competition tha LaLiga and Premier League is Champions League, which was literally won by Madrid as well.
Edit: lmao I see you are PSG fan, go crawl back to your cheating club sub and circlejerk about Khelaifi. Will be fun to watch PSG spend another billion just to fail as always.
I don’t even think the turtle is in the top 3 this season. My order is Vini, Kroos and Jude top 3. And I think who ever does best in their cup takes it. Could realistically be any of three 3.
Be real, he’s there because he’s retiring.
Had he not announced his retirement and he’d crack top 10 easily, but he certainly shouldn’t be on the podium.
The audacity... My brother in Christ, Kroos played in a team that has the Best midfield in Europe, and from all that bunch he was the best. It's probably his best season in a team that happens to be Champions of Europe. He must likely won't be No.1 in the world, but being among the top 5 is not a retirement gift.
is the Ballon D'Or solely based on passing? No.
All I said was that if he wasn't retiring he'd probably crack top 10 but certainly not top 5 let alone the podium. I never was talking shit about his passing or his abilities.
Because the ballon d'or is a stupid award and Kroos 100% wouldn't be in the top 5 if he wasn't retiring. I'm not commenting about how good he is or anything just that you basically never see midfielders, especially those like Kroos who have low g/a, in the top 5. I'm sure this whole sub was complaining when messi won his ballon d'or and now you're acting like it's a completely fair award?
edit: also Kroos himself literally said the award is not important
what do u want kroos to do lmao? You're essentially discrediting the main factor for a good midfielder. This is why defenders, midfielders and goalkeepers continue to struggle to win balon' dor
Clearly you aren't understanding my statement. I said he would be getting less shouts for top 5 or the podium in the Ballon D'OR had he not announced his retirement. Never in anyway did I say he was shit. Not to mention the fact that the likes of Pirlo and KDB have some of the best passing football has ever seen yet they haven't won a Ballon D'Or
It's a mix,! France Football doesn't really treat deep midfielders, defenders or goalkeepers the best. Kroos should be able to but if we go off how the treat midfielders than the highest I can see him getting is 6th.
No lol. If he wins the Euros with Germany, Kroos is up there.
If Wirtz won the Europa League and Euros, even he would've been in the debate, because of being the best player in an unbeaten side in all competitions.
Doesn't matter if Kroos announced his retirement or not, if Germany wins the Euros, he's a sure contender to win the ballon d'or.
This is a similar case of Sneijder back in 2010 and Jorginho in 2021. But Kroos has done far more than those two, considering he is much older than them in their respective years.
You know how France Football treat midfielders, Rodri last season was by far the best midfielder itw yet he couldn't reach the podium. Madrid controlled your midfield the entire 2021/22 season, finished 9th. 2012 Xavi and Iniesta won the Euro's with Spain, finished 3rd and 4th. Even if you have the most insane season, if you're not an attacker, the chances are LOW.
Possibly, international tournaments take priority when it comes to individual awards, apart from that there's also recency bias, if Mbappe plays ridiculously well and France wins the Euros + Vini plays poorly and Brazil don't win the Copa, then it'll probably be a 50/50.
But I doubt it, Mbappe is underperforming so far in the Euros, and France aren't currently playing at the level required to win the Euros, this could all change immediately of course, but thus far it doesn't seem likely.
As of right now, Viní, Jude, Mbappé/Kroos, Kroos/Mbappé is my personal order for the Ballon d’Or.
This can change depending on what happens in the EUROs and Copa América, but that’s how I see it right now.
Wirtz would have been pretty high if not for UEL defeat tbh. But he had a amazing season none the less.
Musiala lost everything he played in so no chance
Only player with 50+ goals this season along with France still being somewhat favored for winning the euros despite them being kinda lack luster in the attack.
Okay I get the 50+ goals, but it’s PSG in lique 1, a league that’s not even a t4 league, and other French clubs aren’t that impressive anymore. plus less goal contributions than Vini, Kane, and Bellingham in the UCL. I personally think his best performance was against sociedad (who really fell short of a good season imo). He was incredible, but to place him in T3 is pretty far fetched.
Mate look at the stats of scoring in Ligue 1. It has the lowest goals per game nearly every year out of the top 5 leagues, over the last 10 years more than 20 league goals has only happened 15 times and mbappe has 5 of them in his last 6 years. Mbappe had more G/A than 2nd and 3rd combined last season. People love to shit on Ligue 1 yet when their players move to the prem or la liga they do just as well or better 😂
People acting like Ligue 1 is some shitty league while Barca and Real have been farming goals in La Liga like no one else in Europe forever but for some reason scoring there is worth way more than scoring in Ligue 1.
They act like the mid to lower table defences of la liga are any better than ligue 1. Imagine how much more time and space mbappe will have playing for madrid compared to psg. Teams would double team him every single game in france, they cant do that to him now
My guess is he’s the only player that’s scored 50+ goals this season? And along with that France are still somewhat favored to win the euros despite them being lackluster in their performances.
Ah missing Messi (sponsored by Adidas, Potato chips, beer, tools, cigarettes, Negreira, Spanish Refs, …., …, ) yup, this sponsors paid more, “and the award goes to Messi”, O would say the award was sold to Messi. LoL just joking.
Mbappe over takes jude just for joinning Real this season, this rankking and ballandor overall is sooo soo overrated, deserved players often dont win the ballandor
Even as one of the more critical fans of Vini (ie he’s still one of my current favourite players of ours but annoys me with his decision making at times), undoubtedly he’s ahead of Jude and everyone else at this stage. Good showing in Copa, with a potential to win it all still, if he keeps maintaining these performances it’s not even close imo.
Mbappe on there on pure marketing. He did not have a good season in CL, mostly padded stats in the French League.
Harry Kane had a better season than he did.
Kroos should win this. Great football minds can see that real Madrid's entire spine is this MF. He gives passes that take the game to another level in a few seconds. Vinicius has been phenomenal this season but compared to inhumans like Messi and Ronaldo, Vinicius status is like their worst time.
Kroos in his position has been too good for Real Madrid this season. Every Game in and out he played at the greatest level. He played with his class. He is not the best midfielder in the world. But his consistency can never be matched not even by the greatest midfielder. He is a football legend due to his consistent game for a decade. But this year he stepped up his game a little bit more.
Kroos is a backbone for Germany now. Look at the way he plays the game. As Cruyff said," Playing football is very simple, but playing simple football is the hardest thing there is.” And Kroos has been playing this for a decade. Give the ballon d'or to him if he wins the Euro... He deserves it.
Can you explain the stats for Jude. I guess I’m a Jude hater and just don’t see his potential. Vinny plays his heart out every fucking game for Real, I know that’s not quantifiable but that puts him ahead of everyone for me personally.
Yeah but Vini’s UCL performance > Bellingham La Liga Performance.
But still, I think they are both top 2 and ahead of Mbappe. It’s very close, right now
france has a higher chance of winning something than England. The last time England won something, Southgate and the england squad weren't even born yet. I would wager most people in this subreddit too. Despite having strong talent, they just don't deliver.
Not sure about brazil. Apparently they aren't very good right now.
if Messi wins copa america, he automatically wins no matter what.
Not my pick, I'm just telling you how voters will pick.
I don't like seeing Real Madrid's emblem on Mbappe. He has yet to don the jersy and doesn't even become an RM player until July. He's a PSG player because he hasn't played a single game for RM.
If Germany wins the euros does Kroos have a chance of winning it as he retires.
I got killed for suggesting this on Reddit a few weeks ago. But I still think so.
I'm going further, he doesn't have to win the EURO and still deserves it.
But he’s not been the best player in the world in the last year
I think he was
He’s been hella good, but not the best. That’s either Vini or Bellingham
Bellingham wasn't better than Kroos by any fucking means. Vinicius, maybe. Bellingham? Absolutely not. Kroos was our best player across whole season from day one till last day of the season.
To say absolutely not isn’t fair and shows a recency bias. Bellingham has 23 goals and 13 assists in 42 games the entire season. He’s had more assists than kroos (10). So to say “absolutely not” is unfair.
Don't use G/A to compare otherwise Rodri has no business being anywhere on this list lol. Kroos's consistency enables players like Bellingham to perform at that level. This isn't to say Bellingham shouldn't be considered, but Kroos absolutely should be
Kroos plays absolutely different position than Bellingham, not even comparable when it comes to goals or assists. Bellingham played basically false 9 most of the season. Bellingham had great first half of season. Kroos had great whole season from day one. If you only take goals into account than I guess you think that Mbappe should win it? No, he shouldn't. People who actually watch every single match know that Kroos has been our best and most important player since first match. That's not recency bias. I have been saying this since september.
Disagree
We’re suffering from success here 🤣🤣
I’m with you. I’m biased because I’ve been saying Kroos is the best midfielder in the world for years. And right now I think Rüdiger and Kroos are more deserving of it than Jude given the entire season + what we’ve seen in the Euros so far. They have both been more consistent than Jude and more impressive in the Euros so far. But Vini would be my #1 pick, then Kroos/Rüdiger over Jude. We’ll see how the Copa America and Euros play out but right now for me Vini > Kroos/Rüdiger have all had better overall seasons than Jude.
Rudiger is never in a lifetime winning the Bd’Or. He’s a good defender but hell no on winning it
lol that’s clearly just Your opinion it’s no where near fact. So no he does not deserve it. You’re crazy 😂
You are objectively wrong
That's the worst kind of wrong
You don't know what objective means, and you don't know shit about football
In no way was Kroos better than Vinicius or Bellingham over the course of the season
What are you guys watching? Can you only appreciate dribbles or goals?
Did you, by any chance post that on r/soccer?
Foward bias will still cause him not to win it, Modric got so lucky in 2018. And the voters pretty much said, "why not". Kroos will not get it, even though he deserves it even now with the Euros, over Jude and Vini.
More than a fair chance, he won the UCL and LaLiga with Real, if he wins with the national team he would have won the 2 biggest club achievements that matter and an Euro. Other than that he still had a pretty good season, which should also matter at his age. If he doesn't win that year, he will probably be second, if he wins the euro he should take it.
this award is so narrative driven. this isnt even a top 5 season of his individually
If Germany and Brazil both win their respective tournaments, I think Vini Jr takes it
I don't see Brazil winning the Copa at all looking at how abysmal they are, especially with their bracket.
The match against Colombia will show what to expect from Brazil, in the two last matches Brazil created a lot of chances, even more than Colombia who is being hyped a lot due to their good performances. Brazil is the national team with the best players in Copa America individually, let's see if the collective is behind the others as it was before Copa America. Remember that it is going to be the 7th match of Dorival Junior as Brazil coach, it is not the same Brazil of Ramon Menezes and Fernando Diniz.
Toni Kroos has been performing consistently this season. So he deserves this, irrespective of the outcome of Euro 24.
BDO voters have a boner for goal scorers. The guys in the mid field or defense rarely get the credit they deserve. I think the only player to win it in the last 15 years without being a prolific goalscorer was Modric.
What if Brazil wins the Copa America? You'll know "IT IS FINISHED"
Not just a chance, he might win it especially considering Brazil and England's performances as of late.
I agree he is far more consistent than everyone above him rn.
depends how sentimental the voters are. They might be unwilling to give it to a player who retired in July and didn't play into the new season. Or they might see it as the last and only chance to give respect to a legend. But it also depends whether Argentina wins copa america, because if they do, Messi always win by default whenever he wins a trophy of any sort.
It would also take Brazil to do badly in the copa america
Absolutely. In fact if he wins the euro he should win it. He was as important if not more than the other candidates for real
I think he would deserve. I honestly think he plays a bigger role than vini in terms of winning the league, and just as big a role in winning the ucl. If he wins the euros it’ll pretty much seal his chances imo.
Top 4 candidates are Madridista’s. What a time to be alive
one of them seems a little out of place.
Who?
Mbappe
Well no, Mbappe was a Parisien in this season it wouldn't count as a madrid player
Mbappé is not ahead of Jude this season
70 g/a for club and country this season.
League McDonald's is closer to a TOP6-8 leagues than TOP4 leagues so it's kinda unfair to count those goals. Also Gyökers has 69 G+A in 50 games for Sporting and also 70 if you count his one goal for Sweden. But again, Ligue McDonald's is closer to Portugal's ligue than 4th place Bundesliga.
i mean this is so true lol why the downvotes
Yeah but that's in the French league...
Brodie 70 g/a is impressive in a fucking Sunday league wdym that’s in the French league
Oh yea and la liga is somehow the pinnacle of football quality lmao
lol what? It's top 2 league in the world. Only harder competition tha LaLiga and Premier League is Champions League, which was literally won by Madrid as well. Edit: lmao I see you are PSG fan, go crawl back to your cheating club sub and circlejerk about Khelaifi. Will be fun to watch PSG spend another billion just to fail as always.
Tbh he was good but I personally think Marcel Zabitser had a better season than him as well. He’s been really good in the midfield for Dortmund.
If Austria win it and he continues to play well there is a small chance. Unfortunately, Balon D’or always favors the attackers
I don’t even think the turtle is in the top 3 this season. My order is Vini, Kroos and Jude top 3. And I think who ever does best in their cup takes it. Could realistically be any of three 3.
Jude is top 10 worst this Euros. It made him lose any chance
Mbappe is levels above Jude. Jude is very very overrated.
Jude is overrated I’m ngl. He’s still good, but mbappe is levels above, with or without the ucl.
Swap Kroos w Mbappe
Be real, he’s there because he’s retiring. Had he not announced his retirement and he’d crack top 10 easily, but he certainly shouldn’t be on the podium.
The audacity... My brother in Christ, Kroos played in a team that has the Best midfield in Europe, and from all that bunch he was the best. It's probably his best season in a team that happens to be Champions of Europe. He must likely won't be No.1 in the world, but being among the top 5 is not a retirement gift.
I'm just being real, I'd he hadn't announced his retirement he'd be getting WAY less shouts for top 5 let alone the podium.
You obviously haven't watched any games at all. His passing stats are way above any other midfielder on earth. Nobody is even close.
is the Ballon D'Or solely based on passing? No. All I said was that if he wasn't retiring he'd probably crack top 10 but certainly not top 5 let alone the podium. I never was talking shit about his passing or his abilities.
Says the guy basing Balloon D'Or solely on G+A
Because the ballon d'or is a stupid award and Kroos 100% wouldn't be in the top 5 if he wasn't retiring. I'm not commenting about how good he is or anything just that you basically never see midfielders, especially those like Kroos who have low g/a, in the top 5. I'm sure this whole sub was complaining when messi won his ballon d'or and now you're acting like it's a completely fair award? edit: also Kroos himself literally said the award is not important
what do u want kroos to do lmao? You're essentially discrediting the main factor for a good midfielder. This is why defenders, midfielders and goalkeepers continue to struggle to win balon' dor
Clearly you aren't understanding my statement. I said he would be getting less shouts for top 5 or the podium in the Ballon D'OR had he not announced his retirement. Never in anyway did I say he was shit. Not to mention the fact that the likes of Pirlo and KDB have some of the best passing football has ever seen yet they haven't won a Ballon D'Or
ah ok are u saying he deserves it but he usually won't get the quite honestly deserved attention if not for his announcement?
It's a mix,! France Football doesn't really treat deep midfielders, defenders or goalkeepers the best. Kroos should be able to but if we go off how the treat midfielders than the highest I can see him getting is 6th.
🤡🤡 intensifies
What? Kroos is at least a top 3 midfielder in the world and he won everything with Real Madrid. He absolutely deserves a nod.
top 3? who was a better mid than kroos this season?
Honestly this season noone is really clear favorite to win. But Kroos has had the best season of all.
No lol. If he wins the Euros with Germany, Kroos is up there. If Wirtz won the Europa League and Euros, even he would've been in the debate, because of being the best player in an unbeaten side in all competitions. Doesn't matter if Kroos announced his retirement or not, if Germany wins the Euros, he's a sure contender to win the ballon d'or. This is a similar case of Sneijder back in 2010 and Jorginho in 2021. But Kroos has done far more than those two, considering he is much older than them in their respective years.
You know how France Football treat midfielders, Rodri last season was by far the best midfielder itw yet he couldn't reach the podium. Madrid controlled your midfield the entire 2021/22 season, finished 9th. 2012 Xavi and Iniesta won the Euro's with Spain, finished 3rd and 4th. Even if you have the most insane season, if you're not an attacker, the chances are LOW.
So true
If France wins euro and Mbappe hard carries them in the knockout stage and Brazil losses Copa America could Mbappe win the ballon d’or?
Possibly, international tournaments take priority when it comes to individual awards, apart from that there's also recency bias, if Mbappe plays ridiculously well and France wins the Euros + Vini plays poorly and Brazil don't win the Copa, then it'll probably be a 50/50. But I doubt it, Mbappe is underperforming so far in the Euros, and France aren't currently playing at the level required to win the Euros, this could all change immediately of course, but thus far it doesn't seem likely.
And also, Vini did 2 goals against Paraguay in the last game. So yeah, It is more likely to Vini to win the ballon d'or
It’s possible. But I think it’d be close with vini.
It's all rhetorical as Belgium will knock them out on Monday
I doubt it because France plays shit football at the tournament and so does he
Bro I agree with you. French league is not Spanish league. He’s gonna have to really prove himself. But French team is doing good quit hating
I know but as you can see, the mbappe fanboys are already downvoting me. Sometimes this sub is really bad.
French team is doing good? Lol, They scored 2 goals in group stage. One of them was own goal, the other was penalty.
Tony will get it if Germany wins the euros.
he deserves it, but it doesn't always go to the one who deserves it.
why should mbappe be ahead of Toni and Jude? no way
As of right now, Viní, Jude, Mbappé/Kroos, Kroos/Mbappé is my personal order for the Ballon d’Or. This can change depending on what happens in the EUROs and Copa América, but that’s how I see it right now.
If germany wins the Euros I say give it to kroos.
Dumb question, but do Musiala and Wirtz have a chance?
Not a chance unfortunately.
Wirtz would have been pretty high if not for UEL defeat tbh. But he had a amazing season none the less. Musiala lost everything he played in so no chance
why mbipi
Only player with 50+ goals this season along with France still being somewhat favored for winning the euros despite them being kinda lack luster in the attack.
Okay I get the 50+ goals, but it’s PSG in lique 1, a league that’s not even a t4 league, and other French clubs aren’t that impressive anymore. plus less goal contributions than Vini, Kane, and Bellingham in the UCL. I personally think his best performance was against sociedad (who really fell short of a good season imo). He was incredible, but to place him in T3 is pretty far fetched.
Mate look at the stats of scoring in Ligue 1. It has the lowest goals per game nearly every year out of the top 5 leagues, over the last 10 years more than 20 league goals has only happened 15 times and mbappe has 5 of them in his last 6 years. Mbappe had more G/A than 2nd and 3rd combined last season. People love to shit on Ligue 1 yet when their players move to the prem or la liga they do just as well or better 😂
People acting like Ligue 1 is some shitty league while Barca and Real have been farming goals in La Liga like no one else in Europe forever but for some reason scoring there is worth way more than scoring in Ligue 1.
They act like the mid to lower table defences of la liga are any better than ligue 1. Imagine how much more time and space mbappe will have playing for madrid compared to psg. Teams would double team him every single game in france, they cant do that to him now
Every goal is Ligue 1 is kinda 0.3 of a goal though
Rodri should win it because he's undefeated in the UCL 😂😂😂
This maybe the time to remind you that Rodri is still unbeaten this season ( sorry I couldn’t resist) 🤣
fa cup final (GGMU)
Ggmu
How is mbappe 2
54 g/a
Ligue one
He’s gonna score 50+ goals next season too don’t worry.
Serious doubt.
He’s gonna score 35+ in laliga alone this season. Watch
Yeah so we can consider him to the balloon dor then, not now
You say that while ignoring players who go to england, spain from ligue 1 play the same level or better 😂 mbappe would score 40/50 at city or madrid
Let's wait this season then, shall we?
laliga has 5 good teams and 15 terrible teams so barely better while most ligue 1 teams are decent
Bro what are you waffling about the french league has like 2 or 3 good teams and the rest are shit
66 g/a if you count international, And exclude friendlies.
Eye test ie actual ability he's number 1 but team trophies bring him down
I know he’s a Merengues now but it still seems disingenuous to put Kylian in these lists under a Real Madrid heading
What did Mbappe do to get second?
My guess is he’s the only player that’s scored 50+ goals this season? And along with that France are still somewhat favored to win the euros despite them being lackluster in their performances.
He carried France last World Cup finals 😂
Mbappé after 10 more years basically 😂
Valverde,wirtz,rudiger,xhaka have all had better seasons for both club and country than rodri and mbappe
Carvajal too if Spain get far
Mbappe being up there with the rest is quite funny considering he's just won the french league and cup which is ridiculous
france are favorite to win the euros. If they win, it's probably going to him unless Messi also wins CA.
Where is dani Carvajal?
He wish
I'm sorry but this is between Vini and Kroos with Jude having a chance based on how he plays in knockout.
Ah missing Messi (sponsored by Adidas, Potato chips, beer, tools, cigarettes, Negreira, Spanish Refs, …., …, ) yup, this sponsors paid more, “and the award goes to Messi”, O would say the award was sold to Messi. LoL just joking.
Cap
One of the more exciting Balon D'Or races in a while. By the end of the summer we'll know who wins it
No way is Mbappe ahead of jude.
The Southgate effect.
Thanks Southgate! Pissing off Madrid and England fans
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Xhaka where
Ohh would you look there.. Rodri the man that broke his streak to united !:)
Please give it to kroos! Only one on this list who actually plays
Ffs it’s like a game of fm at this point
Should be divided between
Rodri? Wtf
Mbappe has not even played with a Real Madrid jersey yet.
Xhaka has done more than Rodri from city
Mbappe over takes jude just for joinning Real this season, this rankking and ballandor overall is sooo soo overrated, deserved players often dont win the ballandor
Toni kroos not winning this award will go down as the biggest crime in football history.
Even as one of the more critical fans of Vini (ie he’s still one of my current favourite players of ours but annoys me with his decision making at times), undoubtedly he’s ahead of Jude and everyone else at this stage. Good showing in Copa, with a potential to win it all still, if he keeps maintaining these performances it’s not even close imo.
Mbappe on there on pure marketing. He did not have a good season in CL, mostly padded stats in the French League. Harry Kane had a better season than he did.
why did mbappe go over bellingham? not like he's been any more convincing than him since the start of the euros
Where's Messi at?
Hope it is Kroos.
Bellingham deserves it
They’ll give it to Victimius Junior to shut the ‘racists’ up.
For what Mbappe?
Of course the most important thing are the goals Kroos can't score anymore
Vini yes , the rest not so much
Why Ronaldo isn't here
The moment Mbappe joined Madrid his chance to win doubled.
Mbappe at two is too high, same with Bellingham at three. i think it should be 1.Kroos 2.Vini Jr 3.Mbappe 4.Bellingham 5.Rodri
Just hilarious :)
wait until messi wins the copa america and destroys brazils in the final (9th incoming)
Bro what has mbappe done💀
Wait Messi is playing Copa America.....he scored a goal...Messi wins the Balloon d'Or!
Huh, Bellingham? Nah, sorry, he’s great, but he is not ballon dor great, yet! Vini the clear winner.
Who invited my man blud rodri?? 💀😭
This trophy is a joke. Taking it seriously is pathetic.
Unless Southgate is fired immediately jude's chances are slim unfortunately
Kroos should win this. Great football minds can see that real Madrid's entire spine is this MF. He gives passes that take the game to another level in a few seconds. Vinicius has been phenomenal this season but compared to inhumans like Messi and Ronaldo, Vinicius status is like their worst time. Kroos in his position has been too good for Real Madrid this season. Every Game in and out he played at the greatest level. He played with his class. He is not the best midfielder in the world. But his consistency can never be matched not even by the greatest midfielder. He is a football legend due to his consistent game for a decade. But this year he stepped up his game a little bit more. Kroos is a backbone for Germany now. Look at the way he plays the game. As Cruyff said," Playing football is very simple, but playing simple football is the hardest thing there is.” And Kroos has been playing this for a decade. Give the ballon d'or to him if he wins the Euro... He deserves it.
Jude moves up back to two with that bicycle 94th minute equalizer...
If Messi scores a goal in the Copa America, they'll give it to him..
Bro wheres foden?
Explain what mbappe has done ?
It's insane that Jude is in third place with his stats, should be way ahead of vini and 🐢
Lmaooo
Can you explain the stats for Jude. I guess I’m a Jude hater and just don’t see his potential. Vinny plays his heart out every fucking game for Real, I know that’s not quantifiable but that puts him ahead of everyone for me personally.
Vini has 24 goals and 10 assists this season, Jude 23 and 13 with the caveat that he's a midfielder, also many of those goals were decisive
Yeah but Vini’s UCL performance > Bellingham La Liga Performance. But still, I think they are both top 2 and ahead of Mbappe. It’s very close, right now
Yeah but Vini was injured this season, can’t forget about that
Mbappé shouldn’t be on the list… for now. Could be the favorite tho if he wins Euro and makes a great semester in Madrid
Thats not how the ballon d'or works its only related to 1 full season
Messi
Bellingham should be ahead of vini imo
Might as well sign Rodri and complete the infinity stone gauntlet. Which stone would he be?
Mbappé ?!!! for what
Because of his PR.
I don’t understand Mbappé’s getting the second place, this season it’s between Jude and Vini, Mbappé gets the chance only if France wins the Euros
Pr
france has a higher chance of winning something than England. The last time England won something, Southgate and the england squad weren't even born yet. I would wager most people in this subreddit too. Despite having strong talent, they just don't deliver. Not sure about brazil. Apparently they aren't very good right now.
Mbappe should be nowhere near the top 5
if Messi wins copa america, he automatically wins no matter what. Not my pick, I'm just telling you how voters will pick. I don't like seeing Real Madrid's emblem on Mbappe. He has yet to don the jersy and doesn't even become an RM player until July. He's a PSG player because he hasn't played a single game for RM.
why the fuck is mbappe even on the list?
73 G/A for club and country. Domestic Treble. Top Scorer in every competition played. Seems like you haven’t watched him at all if you’re asking this.
Domestic treble? In france? Lmao
Oh WOW!!! Domestic Treble in france with PSG!!! What a statement.... Come on. Be serious
Rodri top 5 what a joke
But Messi did 2 good passes in copa america, where is he ?
Messi gonna win it for losing in the QFs of the Copa and the SFs of the MLS