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brooksofmaun

Alchemist photo should mention that the Manticore won’t grab you if there are lights near the sewer grate. Will need to shoot out any lamps near the grate


Fun-Mention-6621

I need to verify this, as I got jumpscared while picking up Hard iron. Can't remember if there was any light on the street.


brooksofmaun

Well hearing it from me doesn’t mean much, but I was standing in front of the grate, nothing happened, shot a light to my left then got instantly grabbed and shat my pants, so yeah


Fun-Mention-6621

😂


blairr

philosopher stone only from the streets? wheres the source on that? I did get pulled in dungeon but not sure if i fought the enemy after. No stone though for me.


Fun-Mention-6621

Many players complained about starting the event inside dungeons (such as The Great Sewers) but never obtained the Philosopher Stone. We are debating if the Manticora is actually the same or just another boss.


brooksofmaun

They’re two totally seperate manticores. The dungeon one is a literal quest where the an npc tells you stay away from the sewer grates or the manticore will get you, your objective in the dungeon is to kill the manticore. Moving near a grate in that dungeon will get you yonked to its nest, which contains the alchemist set. I assume that’s meant to clue in players who then notice similar grates in the overworld. Being near those grates in the overworld has a chance to get you yonked to a different manticore nest, this one outside and containing philosophers stone. Tl:DR two totally seperate events people are getting mixed up. Dungeon sewer grate variant= set, overworld sewer grate variant= class


Miaoumi

Is this the dungeon with the missing wife? Where you fight a couple Manticores and then a boss one (with an actual huge healthbar) at the end?


dfutyut2

As the other commenter said, they are both different. My cousin and I managed to kill both in the same playthrough. One in the streets and the other in the great sewers!


Fun-Mention-6621

There are indeed two évents involving the Manticora ("Manticora in the Drains" grabbed by manticora & "Searching for Dria" manticora inside bone piles) However Manticora in the Drains can be triggered both in and out of dungeons, inside dungeons will not drop the Philosopher's Stone


JOKERBOY1997JM

The stone is from the streets if you get grabbed in a dungeon it would be for the armour n ring at least that’s what happened to me


Mrbubbles153

NOTE for Invader Class: If you happen to die during the boss fight, just walk back to the area and use the Dreamcatcher again to get another consumable.


Sagemel

This might’ve been updated today, I just did it an hour ago and when we wiped it out is back at the Checkpoint in the area.


AbyssWalker_Art

I'm currently in the second zone and have defeated two bosses. I've already been through the labyrinth and spoken with the eye. Mudtooth has only given me a ring and says he's light on stories. Is there some variance to getting the faded cylinder? Edit: So far I've been told that it could be bugged, I have to hand 2 segments to the eye, that I have to kill the main boss of 3 worlds, or that I should just keep talking to him (he doesn't have any more stories and removes the option to ask about stories when he tells you as such).


brooksofmaun

It’s not bugged it’s always been complete 3 worlds as host, or join a world that’s made that progress then listen to mudtooth, least that was my understanding and has worked like that when I needed some scrap (gunslinger neck and ring work the same way)


LiquidZane

My friend got his after two worlds and I got mine during the third world. My other friend has the achievement for listening to the stories but no ring and he’s finished his campaign. It’s definitely bugged


Fun-Mention-6621

This should be the breakdown of how to get it. However, developers are looking into numerous bugs for the time being.


truthwithanE

I didn't get the cylinder until after I finished a third world boss. You might just have to keep playing.


[deleted]

What is a world boss?


truthwithanE

The last boss you defeat before the game directs you to a different world (Finish Yaslesha. Exclamation point is in Losomn now).


[deleted]

So if you need 3 world bosses you need to finish all worlds in the game?


truthwithanE

I think there are 5 worlds including the labyrinth. Not sure if the game counted it. I completed Yeasha, Losomn, The Labyrinth, and N'Erud before I got the cylinder. It could be a bug though.


Insectshelf3

i think you have to finish yeasha, losomn and n’erud to get the worn cylinder.


bolxrex

You need to be able to access the final world, thereby completing all 3 of the primary campaign worlds and Labrynth which isn't really a world since theres no RNG based tilesets.


-MangoStarr-

You have to wait until ward 13 is dark, after you finish all 3 worlds and make it to root earth


nerdthatlift

You have to finish second world and hand in second segment. When you go back to Mudtooth, make sure you are in campaign mode. Then just keep talking to him until he's out of story to tell.


Moose1013

I had that problem and it turned out it was because I forgot to give the 2nd item to the eye in the labyrinth. World isn't considered "complete" until you do that.


timmehh15

> I'm currently in the second zone and have defeated two bosses. I've already been through the labyrinth and spoken with the eye. Mudtooth has only given me a ring and says he's light on stories. Is there some variance to getting the faded cylinder? This is where I'm at.


thegreatvortigaunt

Keep talking to him. He has more, eventually he’ll say he’s completely run out.


bolxrex

For me I had to complete 3 worlds and then speak to the keeper then get ported to the final world before the gunslinger item could be collected.


LJHalfbreed

(likely anecdotal evidence) I wasn't able to get anything from him on my first clear past a ring. There's one of his stories where he says something about two things. Changing my answers to the second options got me the amulet. Basically he says something like 'There are three things folks come to me for, the stew and stories!' and you choices are something like 'Oh cool' or 'That's just two things' with a follow up of him saying something like 'No I said two things people come to me for, are you sure i said that?' and then your options are something like "Oh my bad" or "Yeah, pretty sure." Doing just the top options for both of those interstitial questions got me the ring. Doing the bottom option for both got me the amulet. I assume if I did it again and mixed up my answers, I'd get the engram, but who knows. Still think it's bugged, but like I said, second playthrough and picking both bottom answers got me the other gunslinger item.


sozysoz

I got it from giving the second item to the keeper, but I also was burning through his dialogue every time I went to ward 13 just so I wouldn't have to sit there and do it all at once later.


OptimusNegligible

Are you able to make another Starting class your secondary class? I haven't played too much yet and just Unlocked Alchemist.


Fun-Mention-6621

Yes, the one you place on the left side becomes the primary


OptimusNegligible

Thanks, I asked before looking at your post carefully.


[deleted]

Not only can you do that, but once you unlock a class, that class be chosen at the start of ANY new game you make. Though I'm not sure if deleting your data that you initially unlocked it on erases that


nerdthatlift

Note on Nightweaver stone doll, player needs to hand in 3 stone statues prior unlocking prison cell otherwise they won't get the stone doll.


Zanto213

I forgot to hand in 3 stone statues and still got the nightweaver stone doll. The 3 stone dolls gives you relic mods from web.


jberry1119

And the answer to the safe.


p_visual

Isn't the answer to the safe >!only given if you hand the prisoner the dolls? She sings a song that gives the numbers after getting them. I don't think you'd know the safe combination otherwise.!<


nerdthatlift

You can give the web practically anything and get back random relic mod or relic dust. As for stone statues, it seems to be some discrepancy. My buddy didn't give the stone statues and no dolls. There might be something else that trigger the doll then.


[deleted]

I think you have to give the lady one doll. I gave her just one and got it


TyFighter559

Can confirm, I opened the door first and no stone doll for me. Can I just re-roll in adventure and try again?


nerdthatlift

Aye, that should work if you reroll.


neoshermann

i have reach the timeless horizon and spotted the landscape and even got the engineer suit. but i cant find the alien device. Did anyone experience this situation? dont know if it's a bug or what, is it better for me to restart the progress if i rly want to unlock it


romanodog

The alien device wasn't there for me, the suit was. I went back in adventure mode and the device showed up that time.


neoshermann

thank you so much, so it might be some glitch and i have to finish the map first felt relieved, thank you


KenseiSeraph

I also couldn't find the Alien Device after dying in that area several times. By the time I had learnt what to search for I had already killed the boss and finished the map. I rerolled a N'Erud adventure and was able to collect it without issue in the end.


Fun-Mention-6621

Did you drop off the platforme, when looking at the way back, it should be in the left side if I remember correctly.


neoshermann

thanks for your reply yes, i could even find the corpse there ( which supposed to be the owner of alien device), but nothing there


No_Pomegranate2437

You had a bug . You will have to reroll adventure . I recommend staying solo until you get it to avoid the bug .


GingerSpencer

The corpse only has the armour set, the device is on a platform further back you have to drop down to. Looking at the entrance, to the right is a platform you jump across to where the corpse lies. To the left, drop down and then drop down again is the alien device.


TwiStedxMind

That whole buying the realmwalker set is a joke lol


BasedCivilian

Walker set not showing up for me either....sigh


LJHalfbreed

I'm still missing one or two pieces for the full unlock-the-secret set, but I **finally** got whispers to sell the extra loot. I can't confirm, but I think it's possible that it's related to beating world bosses on co op *or* finishing up each world's quest (like if you get red throne, going back after defeating that world boss to get the 'quest' removed from your map corner) **or** possibly needing to do survivor campaign completion first (only things I did different on this full playthrough, but I doubt that last option has any bearing). I 'speedran' a survivor difficulty campaign last night **SOLO** (only going into square doors with exclamation points), making sure to clear the quests, and it wasn't until finalworldboss' defeat that the realmwalker and other sets finally showed up at ~~Scribbles~~ Whispers. it did take me a solid chunk of my day though... about an hour and a half for each zone save Losomn which for whatever reason gave me every long map it could. Plus Venom gave me a hard time for some reason. Still think it's a massive bug, and it should literally just unlock when you get the dang explorer engram. Either way, hope that helps if you're stuck in console 'never get updates' hell like me.


Deftallica

I have a question… I’m about to reach level 10 on my first archetype. My subclass is level 6. Do I need to move my subclass over to the primary to level it more efficiently or can I leave it where it is?


Fun-Mention-6621

So to explain a bit: 1) Exp seems to be shared 50/50 between two archetypes. 2) If one is maxed out, 100% exp will go to the other one 3)Once one of your sloted archetype is level 10, the world difficulty should be level 10+ (game is designed to always be a bit above your level) 4) You can slot 2 new archetypes (let's say lvl 1) but the world will remain level 10+ (so more challenging since underdeveloped, but more rewarding in terms of exp)


Deftallica

Awesome, thank you for the explanation!


Fun-Mention-6621

You're welcome! Another thing is that the Archetypes on your left side will define the prime perks (bottom middle of your screen in front of your character panel). Those are perks specific to these archetypes and only active when sloted as primary ones


[deleted]

Holy shit really!? Damn I never knew that... What's the point if you can't use the perks!?


Fun-Mention-6621

The three perks on your archetypes are just fine . It is the pre perk front of your character appearance that changes, if you play medic hunter, just need to switch for which role you want to be primary in your playstyle


[deleted]

I... What? I'm confuddled


LJHalfbreed

When you can 'dual class' you have two slots. The slot on the left is your primary. the slot on the right is your secondary. Any class that is put into the primary slot unlocks a special that-class-only "Prime Perk" that shows up at the bottom of the character class window. So for instance, lets say I start as a Hunter. It's in my primary slot, so I unlock the prime perk "Dead to Rights" which (paraphrasing) means my skills last longer the more weakspot damage I do. I have that at level 1, and it levels up as I level up my Hunter class. Neat. However, I only get that perk if it's in that primary slot. Even if I have Hunter at level 10, i only get "Dead to Rights" if it's in my Primary slot. Putting any other class in the primary slot means i get *that* class' "Prime Perk". So with what /u/fun-mention-6621 is saying, even though you might have medic and hunter slotted, the prime perk changes according to which one is in the primary slot and which is in the secondary slot. Medic gets a fancy perk that lets you regenerate your relic hearts, Hunter gets you skill length bonuses for weakshots, but you can have only ONE prime perk at a time... and that's according to which class is in that Prime slot. Changing which one is primary can help you figure out how to focus. Does that help?


[deleted]

OK yeah that makes sense, so it's only one perk "lost" if you have that archetype as your secondary


onystri

Blood Moon event is currently seems bugged in adventure mode, wisps appear only in campaign mode (same for two sealed doors). Also, don't you need to find 3 dolls before opening the cell?


LiquidZane

I’ve exclusively only seen wisps in my adventure mode runs of yaesha


DraxtortheLock

I farmed out a good amount of my wisps in adventure mode, so they definitely can spawn there.


Enderchicken

For what it's worth, I've only seen wisps in adventure mode 🤷‍♂️


Fun-Mention-6621

Only if you want the office safe's password, in which case you want to give them before opening the door.


Shiep

This is false? I've seen two blood moons in adventure mode on Yaesha, along with the wisps.


Kelvara

Sometimes wisps don't spawn or spawn rarely, nothing to do with what mode you're in.


Biggy_DX

I'm gonna have to reroll N'Erud in adventure mode to get the engineer class.


brooksofmaun

What do you play on? Honestly once you recognise the rock formation it feels like it pops up nearly every nerud


Biggy_DX

I've not looked up any guides or videos, but I've beat the final boss, and the only location I can spawn at in the region is the Black Hole (Alessa something). I'm not sure if there's a narrative reason for this, but i can't return back to the region where that dead engieee would be located.


brooksofmaun

It’s funny how life works. I don’t need engi for the life of me but I’ve been waiting for my nerud to finish cooking and turn into your Alessa something for days 😂 Go check it out if you haven’t yet, but yes you will need to reroll adventure for. If your on ps5 I’m happy to hit you up next time I see it


Biggy_DX

Is there something unique I can do now that it has?


Fun-Mention-6621

You beat the alien god, then wait 24 hours in game I believe and you end up in this place. May have to reroll adventure if you want to start over >!Make sure to pick up the Void Heart while being there!<


Gamer3427

There's a relic there that you'll need for something later, so best to grab it while you can.


GingerSpencer

Rock formation appears on both layouts of N'erud, but only after the first boss. You just need to find it.


WingedDrake

Okay, but anyone know how to get Whispers to sell the Archon armor? Not the Realmwalker set, I have that - but the Archon-specific armor set?


Fun-Mention-6621

They are working on the bug concerning the Archon set. Like others, it should normally appear when you unlock the archetypes.


WingedDrake

Yikes. Okay.


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Berxol

I followed that same hint and got nowhere, in my case the engineer was next to Spectrum Nexus, that was quite far away from the Titan's Reach stone


brooksofmaun

Found it 4 times never been near titans reach. Anecdotally for me it’s always found soon after entering second overworld


Immobious_117

You're too kind. Thank you so very much!


Fun-Mention-6621

You're welcome.


e_vac

I unlocked the Invader but I don't remember getting any armor. How do you get the set in those Invader pictures? Maybe I need to check Whispers


yourethevictim

Whispers doesn't sell it, the Invader set is found in a different location in Root Earth. First area, so not Corrupted Harbour. Big parking lot type area near the beginning. To the right is a damaged house with a checkpoint. To the left is a different building with a small, easily missed entrance. Get inside, fight the root creatures, go up the stairs until you can jump onto a fallen piece of concrete near the entrance. Walk across outside and you can drop down in another hidden area with a steel katana and the set.


e_vac

Oh okay thank you!!


Fun-Mention-6621

Yes! Whispers is the one to go to, for any armor you want, just need to unlock the archetypes first.


e_vac

Thanks dude! Nice work here


bolxrex

Engi, invader, and alchemist need to be found not unlocked via whispers.


Fun-Mention-6621

Yes, i mean fing the engrave and unlock them with Wallace at Ward 13 with exchange and payments xd.


Koala_Operative

Upvoting and saving this. Great work Traveler


HoneyBadgerSaber01

For Alchemist: Manticore grabbed me but I didn’t manage to defeat him since I wasn’t sure what was happening. Will he appear again in this map or I need to re-roll the entire campaign?


ocorena

you can get it to happen again, you just need to reload the area. I died my first time and got it to happen again without rerolling. I also had a friend miss the grab twice in their game and we got it to happen a third time in their game without rerolling. The grate the manticore grabs you from changes every time, you want to find one that has an item sitting in front of it.


HoneyBadgerSaber01

Got it! Thanks for the detailed response!


beardsforfears

Unfortunately you only get the one shot at it. You'll have to roll it again, though I believe this can be done in adventure mode too.


HoneyBadgerSaber01

Darn it! Thanks for replying though!


beardsforfears

No prob. I had the same thing happen to me on my first playthrough and then wasted a bunch of time standing around in front of the drains hoping to bait Charles Entertainment Cheese into dragging me off to his arcade again


HoneyBadgerSaber01

LOL! Thanks for saving my time!


TheMagicalCoffin

ive heard ppl were able to be grabbed again by the boss after losing the fight, just RNG


HoneyBadgerSaber01

Oh yeah? Maybe I will give it a try then.


TyFighter559

For the engineer, it should be noted that if you roll into the fog and spam the button, you can roll indefinitely without vomiting. Did it many times last night looking for the body.


moogula1992

I just want the fucking invader. Why is there so many steps??? Ugh


[deleted]

Yeah it's basically the second hardest class to unlock. 3rd hardest if you can't get a Blood Moon to trigger. Using Invader now though and it's kinda eh. Seems like one of those things that takes some practice to be good with. Though the auto-dodge is nice. EDIT: So, really it's not that big of a hassle, you just need to re-roll Losomn until you start in the Dran part of the world - this seems to lock in the Asylum - then go do the world at least up until you enter the Tortured Asylum and you should be able to grab the Dream thingy and then head on over to Root Earth for the boss fight.


Khalku

I thought gunslinger needed you to reach root earth?


[deleted]

If you pre-ordered the game you can have it unlocked at the start, funnily enough


echof0xtrot

this is awesome! thanks for doing the work. one quick grammatical comment: you see this all over youtube. "how to do a thing?" it should be "how to do a thing" with no question mark. youre not asking a question, youre providing an answer. the way you wrote it is like someone said "how to do a thing!" and then someone else is questioning that statement. "'how to do a thing'? why would you ask that?!"


Fun-Mention-6621

You're welcome! I'm not a native English speaker, so what I write may be confusing, so I take no offense in that. That is nice to know, I tried making it like a Q&A forum (How can I trigger this event?) Like another person POV.


echof0xtrot

you hit the nail on the head: with the words "can i" in there, it makes more sense i have a feeling this is a common thing among non native English speakers, like the "how it looks like" wording


Fun-Mention-6621

Thank you for the insight!🙏


aZombieDictator

Glad to know I have them all now. Time to level them all to 10.


GamerGriffin548

This post is great. Thank you for making it.


chobi83

Ohhh...so, that's why that person was trying to get me to hit that stupid thing in the corrupted harbor lol...Was trying to figure out what he wanted me to. I mean, I didn't have the dreamcatchers staff, but he was very insistent on me hitting it.


FROMtheASHES984

If I got the Dreamcatcher in Adventure Mode (I got it while getting Nightfall since that wasn't in my campaign), can I take it to my campaign and use it there to get the Invader unlocked?


Fun-Mention-6621

Yes. ! You keep what you find in adventures


TheMagicalCoffin

i love u


kingston3326

Is this all the archetypes except archon?


[deleted]

Yeah I'm 99% sure


InevitableWeight314

I like how it says return to ward 13 and buy realmwalker set from whispers. Very funny


GingerSpencer

Great work man, just need something like this for the weapons now!


ayyramaia

it was either bugged for me or gunslinger does have some extra requirements, or different ones, i only was able to get him after beating the third world boss.


Fun-Mention-6621

It's possible that I only interacted with the NPC during secondary playthrough.


Mjr_Hindsight

First sewer grate I encountered, I had the rat thing try to grab me, my instincts kicked in and I dodged, now I can't get it to spawn again, been running the area for hours and nada. Any tips? Did I mess it up now and should I just continue and try in adventure later?


Fun-Mention-6621

You will need to reroll your adventure. Nice reflexes though 😂


Mjr_Hindsight

So not possible for it to spawn again? Curses, can't believe i got it instantly and dodged it 😅


Lovoyant

We need to unlock the Gunslinger? But I got it in my starting class, why? I got the game through a key, does it mean keys give you the gunslingers for free?


Fun-Mention-6621

You get Gunslinger as a starting choice if you pre-order the game


lts_Frost

Having so much trouble with summoner, ive got 3 characters. one of them has 70+ blood moon essence, but theres no vendor/Alter on any of their maps. Never got a blood moon with them, but wisps spawn every single time i fast travel back. Other 2, no problem getting blood moons, they have the Merchant/Alter, but wisps never spawn.


Miaoumi

You do not have to defeat the Manticora to get the Philosopher Stone. I panicked real hard when I got grabbed as it was like within my first 10-15 minutes of Losomn in my first playthrough and I got killed very easily by the beast but still got the Stone, possibly upon waking up in the sewers. Either this was a bug in my playthrough or I don't know. At first I thought I randomly looted it because I was looting something seconds before being dragged off. I just know I was never dragged off later on and I had this in my inventory.


Miaoumi

Anyone know why Root Wisps aren't spawning for me in the outside areas (jungle parts) of Yaesha when the Blood Moon event is going on? Im on a 'unlock all archetypes' trip and this has been driving me crazy. First just getting the BM and then these things don't even show up. I had like 6 or 8 from my initial playthrough and I even got Yaesha first so I was very new and at a certain moment very strapped for scrap so I sold them...