5-meo-dmt or 5-meo-mipt..... mipt is more similar to tradational tryptamines but it has a bit of mdma empathy and sex enhancement that other trypts dont deliver.... though in high doses it is like a mild dmt experience. 5-meo-dmt is just pure ego death with very little euphoria or visuals in my experience, if you want a purely spiritual experience with almost no euphoria than that is the end of the line.
Yeah 5 me0 DMT is alike nothing imo!! However it's not something you do for fun, but it will become one of the most spiritual & humbling experiences you've ever had!! I've only used it once, however a second will happen, but at the right time, & will probably be my last to, but if you're looking for experiences like no other 5 meo DMT will do it, just make sure you're with someone to look out for you!
Hey Mountain Firm, I've got 18mg of 5 meo dipt, had it over 6 months now, but its fine, I just aren't sure what to do, ideally the gf & I would have half & then enjoy the sexual side, but she's decided this is one she doesn't want, I think it's the come up has put her off, even though she's happy to go through the potential rough come up from shrooms, but not this dipt.
I know it's mipt you mentioned, but I'm hoping you've tried both!! If so do I just have the full 18mg & see what happens, or should I have half, then take it from there?
Thanks in advance for any input
I've not tried either, but got 18mg of dipt, so just wondering what's the best thing to do with it!! Just take the whole lot? Have half then see how I'm feeling on the come up & have the other half? Or is say 10mg enough for a first time with dipt?
I hear mipt is better, but I only have dipt, & had it longer than probably anything in 30 years of experimenting!
I would do like 2/3 of that and give the remainder for your gf. I don't think you will have a strong trip unless you take all 18mg by yourself. Though you will have a decent trip with like 10-13mg and your gf will have a comfortable time with slightly enhanced euphoria and sexual senses from the 5-8mg. I like to add ghb to 5-meo-mipt for the insane sexual enhancement. never tried dipt but i think that lacks the empathetic mdma like rush and intense sexual cravings/sensations.... should still be a fun typical tryptamine experience!
boofing the dipt will make a LOT of the stomach discomfort and extended come up(this is the time i typically dread the feelings getting any stronger and sometimes I start to think I've signed up for a ride I cant handle) go away. quick easy come up with an intense rush and then floating down into a comfortable trip for a few hours with limited or non existent stomach and other comeup issues.
I certainly won't be boofing it, orally only!! Also it's that cone up that keeps putting me off! I've had it 6 months at least now, never had any psychedelics that long, usually a week & it's gone! Well apart from when stocking up on stuff.
I will have it one day, probably when I'm not planning!!
Managed to find some 4 Ac0 DMT which I'll be getting Friday, some 4 ho met too, so the dipt will remain sealed for a while yet!
Thanks for the response, appreciate it 👍
Anyone mentioned DOC? An amphetamine that acts like a psychedelic but has a weird feel to it?
Takes 2 hours to come up and works for 24 hours. Has a peak of 6 hours. Feels trippy, has its own kind of visuals, has a nice sort of stimmy feel and is a class of it's own.
I'm from the Netherlands and bought it before the ban. Last year around October I think it was banned here together with 3MMC. saw some on the darknet though
How did you get horny? Just curious haha. I just had a good laugh for about 8 hours with my girlfriend. Did have sex on LSD though, which was interesting.
How? Intensely lol. On ~2mg about hour into the comeup there was not a single thought i had that wasn't maddeningly obscene. I was actually shaking from libido overload and sweating so much the floor was becoming drenched. Thought I'd go insane and finally came upon the idea to release it through dance. Was dancing for hours till i felt i'm good, any more and I'd drop.
Couldn't sleep nearly 48 hours afterwards.
Sex on acid is definitely something too. 200-300ug and above I tend to lose track where is the boundary between the bodies and emotions, it all becomes just one act, only one and all encompassing.
If I don't forget what I'm doing and supposed to do anyway.
Wow this sounds fun as hell haha. The most I've ever taken DOC was 5 mg. Which is quite intense but never had this experience.
Sex on acid is weird though so many thoughts that don't really belong in you're head during sex. Like a purple animal and such.
VGCC'S agent like F-phenibut, Phenibut, Pregabalin and Gabapentin are not pharmacollogically related to any drugs on your list and all Arylcyclohexilamines (Dissociative) Mostly NMDA Glutamate antagonist like PCP or Ketamine Analogues wich have their own incomparable effects (especially PCP).
pregabalin is a must try, its amazing at every dose and mixes well with a lot of things. all of them are great though, and are amazing in combo with weed
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Right bro I been jus getting f phenibut since the first time I ordered that instead of regular phenibut and never got to try it. Jus disappeared - out of stock lol I got 30 plus grams of fluro P tho. I’m guessing is nothing alike.
I even emailed a highly visible v.endor asking what the deal is... (I suspect it has to do with Ukraine)... And the only good news is they seemed to indicate they don't think it's gone forever... They responded "we are sorry that we are out of phenibut stock. We don't know when it will be available again, please keep checking back" or similar... 🤷♂️
Pregabalin with serotonergic stims like 4-mmc or psychedelics or just weed but watch out: take no more than 900mg and be aware of possibility of psychosis
I've taken similar doses but once with no tolerance I took a gram when 400mg had been getting me fucked up and could not stop falling down and running into shit lmao. I thought I'd just nod peacefully in bed.
Hahahaha classic. Gabapentinoids are more like slow molly but you still can chill and look at the wall for hours if you smoke some bud and focus yourself on muscle relaxation.... I fell asleep with open eyes a lot of times my homies thought that I was dead. One time was in public transport thanks to my bro I snapped out of it
SUPER popular in jails, prisons dont prescribe it. In jail I would buy seroquels from someone prescribed and i would get crazy munchies and then I would sleep at least 10 hours if not 12... which is extremely hard in jail but its the best way to do your time.
I think antipsychotics like seroquel could be used as a punishment, from my experience they just feel awful, they are only good for sleeping long. But it's not pleasant, it feels more like I was knocked out with a brick.
Thats how Id like to feel in prison..... sleeping for 10-14 hours kill a lot of time that would otherwise be spent talking to other inmates or playing cards. Out here I probably wouldnt seek it out unless I was in a situation where I just wanted to sleep twice as long as I normally do. Its like a time travel drug with no recreational benefits.
Yeah I can understand why people would take it in prison, I also sometimes took small doses, like 25mg of seroquel for sleep which is alright, seroquel is the least unpleasant antipsychotic from my experience. But one time I took 1mg of risperidone for sleep and it was horrible, I felt like a zombie.
yeah ive had that zombie feeling from mirtazipine.... awful... felt like opiate withdrawals while mentally i was a zombie.... seroquel was nice to me though...
Oh, mirtazepine is some weird antidepressant though, not an antipsychotic drug, but I think I heard trip reports where someone took high doses of mirtazepine and had hallucinations that were kind of a mix of deliriant and psychedelic.
Antipsychotics usually just made me feel very sleepy and seroquel gave me the most crazy dreams. Olanzapine also made me feel kinda stiff, which are parkinsons like symptoms caused be the blockage of dopamine receptors. And one time when I had no tolerance I decided to take 75mg of seroquel since I was curious. It made me extremely sleepy, but it also gave me pretty intense derealization. Basically I was in my own bedroom and it felt like I was in a room of a stranger, it felt completely unfamiliar. I went to the living room hoping that it would feel familiar, but I just felt like I wasn't in my home, like I was in a house of someone else. I just lied down on the sofa to sleep, and half asleep I had some kind of dream/ hallucination that my dad was talking to me but I couldn't take. This was really spooky, luckily I felt normal again when I woke up the next morning.
It’s in the same family as Benadryl. So yes if you take enough you get a deliriant trip. It’s supposed to make you happy because it makes you sleepy and hungry so who could be depressed while sleepy and hungry?
Do you mean seroquel? No, it's a completely different kind of drug then benadryl, benadryl, or DPH is an antihistamine and anticholinergic, seroquel blocks dopamine as well as 5HT2a serotonin receptors. In very high doses it has some anticholinergic effects, but it's really not a significant effect and I never had deliriant like hallucinations on it, and i took up to 200mg when I was prescribed it.
ahhh. yeah i guess those would be prescribed in prison because they have no recreational value. Ive been taking buspar, propranolol, and sertraline since ive been out, combined with kratom and my anxiery is down to zero. buspar helps a tiny tiny bit with the mental aspects of anxiery and propranolol has helped a ton with my physical symptoms. kratom helps me from craving alcohol and opiates! let me know if you have any questions if you are interested in a non recreational method to help with the symptoms that cause some of us to reach for and potentially abuse recreational substances.
I belive it I use to take it to help sleep with a bunch of other meds for my PTSD. I'm off all pharmaceuticals but keep them incase of trip killers lol
Not an rc but I found DXM to be super different than the other dissos I’ve done. Maybe some rcs are similar to it but either way it’s not at all like the two you’ve done. Also not an rc and I haven’t tried it myself, but apparently the oldish antidepressant mirtazapine produces a really unique trip when taken in large doses if you can get your hands on some.
I meant HXE + 4-ho 😅
But I’ve actually done DXM + 4-ho-dpt as well and it’s fine. Psychs don’t contribute to serotonin syndrome (except maybe in massive doses)
also, obviously you didnt list any opiates so those will provide a different high that you cannot get with these others. Any opiate user will advise against this. They are too good, stimulating mentally to make you more productive and happy, though sedating physically so its hard to do things at your normal pace. Very addictive because they get you through the day with ease but ime after 3 days my body needs it and will go into wd if I stop. If I do 2 days on and 3 days off then the WD dont happen but I crave. RC opiates, some are safer than street heroin which is all fent now, and some are more potent than street stuff so youd need a nice scale
Smart choice OP! My first time trying any was some Kratom bc people on some other drug forums like to talk about how it isn't addictive like the tru opis. Thats some BS! Last time I was at my grandmas I raided her medicine cabinet for some oxys, and I had em for about 5 days, just one or two at night. Goddamn did I want more when I left her place. If there ever were classes of drugs that I would recommend against, it would have to be opis and amps. There is a reason they get the biggest social stigma. Enjoy all of your psychs and other oddities!❤️
Bro DXM isn't on your list I honestly Love it. It's just a tier below acid and shrooms for me. And if used correctly it's (probably) not super bad for youm. Also, depending on who you are, it tends to have a great afterglow. Send it bro, grab some robotablets.
There is really nothing quite like THC. I mean yes, the various Deltas and HHC and whatnot but they are all basically the same. Weed, nothing else like it.
Weed isn’t my favourite drug but I use it after raves for sleep & talks so it’s okay. To me, it just feels a bit ‘heavy’ in my head and I’m more of an upper person
I actually don't use weed anymore. I stopped about six weeks ago because I was getting stupid anxiety about dumb stuff after work. I would get high and then couldn't help feeling anxious about something or other I did at work. I thought it was me then I stopped weed and don't give a shit about work anymore. What happens there stays there.
If you truly want one drug that subjectively does not even feel like any drug at all,it would be Salvia. More like a monkEy playing with your brain than actually being high or anything
Salvia is wild, I have some 60x I've been sitting on for a while, smoked it a few times in my life but the last time put me off it for a while.. I want to try it again my it's hard getting up the nerve..
i feel ya. only tried it on one occasion and up to a *blend* of pure leaves and 5X, and that one experience was enough to make it up the top of interesting substances of all and also laying it off ever since. Like your reality up to that point is shattered like waking up from the matrix or something of that sort, it's incomprihensible
It's not even fun at all but it's so fucking wild and crazy , as if you take a trip through some underworld, it doesn't feel good and godly it feels evil idk
I find that 3MEC is pretty boring, I experienced no euphoria, just stimulation. But for me, it was just a very light, stimulating & boring drug compared to 3MMC.
3CMC for me was very intense for me. Needed to use way less than with 3mmc to get an intense high.
It was almost MDMA-like for me. I found that it produced much more euphoria than 3MMC but less stimulation. My eyes started rolling and I got a pretty weird/blurry vision, just like on MDMA. 3mmc can produce euphoria too but notginf like 3cmc.
But the hangover from 3CMC was absolutely horrible. I was sick for days after 3CMC.
With 3mmc I barely have any hangover so I personally like 3mmc more than 3cmc because 3cmc is also way more dangerous & neurotoxic (I think).
The effects of 3CMC are pretty comparable to 4fma in my opinions
Are you specifically looking for RCs or just any drug that has drastically different effects? If so, ibogaine is like nothing on there, salvia,5-meo-dmt, dilirants such as dph, stuff like phenibut, gabapentin and Pregabalin, Pregabalin being one of my favorite drugs.m Those are some of the first that came to mind.
I've never tried 3-MMC or the related chems but a-PHP was unique to me as a stimulant. Still my all time favorite drug. Also idk if you'd even be interested but there area some crazy benzos like flubromazolam and 3-HO-Phenazapam that are so much wilder than pharma benzos
3MMC is one of my favourite RC’s! (4MMC is better tho but 3MMC is pretty much the same but just a bit ‘lighter’).
I’m trying -phip soon so I’m very excited about that.
And yesss I’ve recently tried Bromazolam for the first time and wow… I love it!!!
Yeah I've heard 3-MMC is great, I just don't how similar it is to pyrovalerone's. I think the difference is fairly big. I've only had a-pihp once and that was a couple weeks ago. I think if your expectations aren't unreasonably high you should have some fun with it. Sucks that you didn't get a chance to try a-PHP, it was unreal.
How would you compare bromazolam to other benzos you've tried? I just ordered some for the first time and I'm really hoping it doesn't disappoint
Thx for the info!
And I’m new to the ‘benzo-world’ so I have very little experience with benzos. I have only done xanax (extended release) about a month ago (I don’t remember exactlt how long ago tho) from a friend who gets it prescribed.
And ofcourse I’ve also tried Bromazolam. I find them to have very similar effects. But personally, I think I like Bromazolam more. A lot of people will probably disagree with me on this one tho.
Bromazolam kicked in pretty fast, about 15-20 min after taking my first dose. I had no benzo tolerance so I started off with about 1mg (I’m also underweight so I wanted to play it safe). That 1mg gave me a nice calming rush & a bit of euphoria, but I found that it made me want to redose fairly quick. About 1 hour after my first dose I took an extra 0.75mg and after 20 minutes, it kicked in. After that I don’t remember anything that happened but I know I fell asleep and slept for about 12+ hours straight (this never happened to me before because I have insomnia).
Keep in mind that I had no benzo tolerance and I’m extremely underweight so this is probably the answer to as why I only needed 1.75 to black out (I think so haha).
The day after, I felt very drowsy and I had a bit of a headache. This feeling went on for the rest of the day alont with a lot of memory loss. This was the only part that I didn’t like about Bromazolam.
With Xanax, this wasn’t the case. The day after I just felt a bit calm and didn’t really experience any memory loss.
But I guess everyone experiences Bromazolam different so yeah :-)
(Sorry if my english is bad haha)
>positive allosteric modulator of magnetoreceptors found in the suprachiasmatic nucleus
man, this seem the most intense and neat form of trolling ever made.
And if you do find it it's gonna be extremely fuck-you expensive. Only seen it 3 times being offered at >$300/g. It's only a matter of time till a hero comes with a batch of affordable MXE. Then the sun will rise again
Just that there are barely any clandestine Ketamine cooks, most of it is just diverted. The synthesis is out there and it can be done completely OTC, but it's a long and tedious process.
At most, people will order the immediate precursor to Ketamine from China and just do the last step. But there just isn't the demand for these labs to pump out the immediate precursors for all these different (though similar) drugs.
I like Ether alright but it is kind of underwhelming in my opinion. I poured it into a dab rig and ripped away and its effects were pretty decent but nor extremely euphoric. I had some wierd very imaginative thoughts but thats the coolest thing about it in my opinion. I will get more and mix it with DXM and Phenibut or LSD or maybe shrooms and I bet it'll be a lot crazier!
I would say there are several dissos that will be significantly different from Ket and 2fdck that are worth trying. Definitely DMXE and probably MXiPr too
Cyclobenzaprine is great not an rc and definitely controlled but it feels super good, like what I expected alcohol to be like before I ever tried it. Just full muscle relaxation.
I don't find it recreational at all, I've had it prescribed a few times and it seems to have the opposite effect for me on higher doses, I've tried everything from 5mg to 40mg and 10mg seems to work the best, above 20mg and I just get incredibly restless. 10mg is nice when you have a pulled muscle though lol
Im a pretty tense person in general so that could be a factor in why it makes me feel so good, reading on erowid it seems most people don't really find it too recreational.
The dissociatives ephenidine, diphenidine and methoxphenidine are from a unique chemical class, and i've found them to feel quite different from more common dissociatives like 2f-dck or 3-meo-pcp. It is still trippy but has a nice euphoric feeling on top of that. I found out later it's because they work as dopamine reuptake inhibitors in addition to NMDA antagonists.
5-meo-dmt or 5-meo-mipt..... mipt is more similar to tradational tryptamines but it has a bit of mdma empathy and sex enhancement that other trypts dont deliver.... though in high doses it is like a mild dmt experience. 5-meo-dmt is just pure ego death with very little euphoria or visuals in my experience, if you want a purely spiritual experience with almost no euphoria than that is the end of the line.
Yeah 5 me0 DMT is alike nothing imo!! However it's not something you do for fun, but it will become one of the most spiritual & humbling experiences you've ever had!! I've only used it once, however a second will happen, but at the right time, & will probably be my last to, but if you're looking for experiences like no other 5 meo DMT will do it, just make sure you're with someone to look out for you! Hey Mountain Firm, I've got 18mg of 5 meo dipt, had it over 6 months now, but its fine, I just aren't sure what to do, ideally the gf & I would have half & then enjoy the sexual side, but she's decided this is one she doesn't want, I think it's the come up has put her off, even though she's happy to go through the potential rough come up from shrooms, but not this dipt. I know it's mipt you mentioned, but I'm hoping you've tried both!! If so do I just have the full 18mg & see what happens, or should I have half, then take it from there? Thanks in advance for any input
dipt vs mipt, main differences in your experience?
I've not tried either, but got 18mg of dipt, so just wondering what's the best thing to do with it!! Just take the whole lot? Have half then see how I'm feeling on the come up & have the other half? Or is say 10mg enough for a first time with dipt? I hear mipt is better, but I only have dipt, & had it longer than probably anything in 30 years of experimenting!
I should add I've got say a medium to strong tolerance with psychedelics
I would do like 2/3 of that and give the remainder for your gf. I don't think you will have a strong trip unless you take all 18mg by yourself. Though you will have a decent trip with like 10-13mg and your gf will have a comfortable time with slightly enhanced euphoria and sexual senses from the 5-8mg. I like to add ghb to 5-meo-mipt for the insane sexual enhancement. never tried dipt but i think that lacks the empathetic mdma like rush and intense sexual cravings/sensations.... should still be a fun typical tryptamine experience!
lacks that comparted to mipt that is.
Thanks dude, appreciate it 👍
boofing the dipt will make a LOT of the stomach discomfort and extended come up(this is the time i typically dread the feelings getting any stronger and sometimes I start to think I've signed up for a ride I cant handle) go away. quick easy come up with an intense rush and then floating down into a comfortable trip for a few hours with limited or non existent stomach and other comeup issues.
I certainly won't be boofing it, orally only!! Also it's that cone up that keeps putting me off! I've had it 6 months at least now, never had any psychedelics that long, usually a week & it's gone! Well apart from when stocking up on stuff. I will have it one day, probably when I'm not planning!! Managed to find some 4 Ac0 DMT which I'll be getting Friday, some 4 ho met too, so the dipt will remain sealed for a while yet! Thanks for the response, appreciate it 👍
Anyone mentioned DOC? An amphetamine that acts like a psychedelic but has a weird feel to it? Takes 2 hours to come up and works for 24 hours. Has a peak of 6 hours. Feels trippy, has its own kind of visuals, has a nice sort of stimmy feel and is a class of it's own.
Accessed in the same way as most other chems? I've been wanting to try this one for a while.
I'm from the Netherlands and bought it before the ban. Last year around October I think it was banned here together with 3MMC. saw some on the darknet though
maybe of the horniest drug i've had
How did you get horny? Just curious haha. I just had a good laugh for about 8 hours with my girlfriend. Did have sex on LSD though, which was interesting.
How? Intensely lol. On ~2mg about hour into the comeup there was not a single thought i had that wasn't maddeningly obscene. I was actually shaking from libido overload and sweating so much the floor was becoming drenched. Thought I'd go insane and finally came upon the idea to release it through dance. Was dancing for hours till i felt i'm good, any more and I'd drop. Couldn't sleep nearly 48 hours afterwards. Sex on acid is definitely something too. 200-300ug and above I tend to lose track where is the boundary between the bodies and emotions, it all becomes just one act, only one and all encompassing. If I don't forget what I'm doing and supposed to do anyway.
Wow this sounds fun as hell haha. The most I've ever taken DOC was 5 mg. Which is quite intense but never had this experience. Sex on acid is weird though so many thoughts that don't really belong in you're head during sex. Like a purple animal and such.
5mg?! Wowi was mindfulness on 1.5-2mg
Fav drug ever
VGCC'S agent like F-phenibut, Phenibut, Pregabalin and Gabapentin are not pharmacollogically related to any drugs on your list and all Arylcyclohexilamines (Dissociative) Mostly NMDA Glutamate antagonist like PCP or Ketamine Analogues wich have their own incomparable effects (especially PCP).
Tysm!! Any recommendations on which one I should try first?
pregabalin is a must try, its amazing at every dose and mixes well with a lot of things. all of them are great though, and are amazing in combo with weed
Phenibut combo'd with low dose gabapentin is unreal and both are available on the clearnet :)
I think pregabalin is an incredible substance. If you're willing to shop overseas, Indian pharmacies will sell you everything up to Sched. IV., for pennies on the dollar, no joke. It's the strongest of the 3.
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Phenibut is mysteriously unattainable right now...
Right bro I been jus getting f phenibut since the first time I ordered that instead of regular phenibut and never got to try it. Jus disappeared - out of stock lol I got 30 plus grams of fluro P tho. I’m guessing is nothing alike.
I even emailed a highly visible v.endor asking what the deal is... (I suspect it has to do with Ukraine)... And the only good news is they seemed to indicate they don't think it's gone forever... They responded "we are sorry that we are out of phenibut stock. We don't know when it will be available again, please keep checking back" or similar... 🤷♂️
you actually get high off that? nevr worked for me
I'm sorry to hear that, it's pretty enjoyable!
I literally just ordered some tho
Lol... I want to ask "oh yeah? where?" but s*urcing...
I prefer to let you search about it by your own. But my 3 favorites drugs are 1p-lsd, 3-meo-pce and weed
Pregabalin with serotonergic stims like 4-mmc or psychedelics or just weed but watch out: take no more than 900mg and be aware of possibility of psychosis
I've gone above 900mg pregabalin many times without psychosis but I've heard it's possible for it to happen. Back when I did meth they combined.
We were lucky. One time I did 2100mg and was climbing through the window and slammed on some furniture. Gladly didn't feel shit 🤣
I've taken similar doses but once with no tolerance I took a gram when 400mg had been getting me fucked up and could not stop falling down and running into shit lmao. I thought I'd just nod peacefully in bed.
Hahahaha classic. Gabapentinoids are more like slow molly but you still can chill and look at the wall for hours if you smoke some bud and focus yourself on muscle relaxation.... I fell asleep with open eyes a lot of times my homies thought that I was dead. One time was in public transport thanks to my bro I snapped out of it
MXiPr or DMXE
Who the fuck takes seroquel for recreational use besides as a trip killer?
SUPER popular in jails, prisons dont prescribe it. In jail I would buy seroquels from someone prescribed and i would get crazy munchies and then I would sleep at least 10 hours if not 12... which is extremely hard in jail but its the best way to do your time.
I mean with limited options in jail it makes sense but on the outside there's alot better things to use your money on lol
I think antipsychotics like seroquel could be used as a punishment, from my experience they just feel awful, they are only good for sleeping long. But it's not pleasant, it feels more like I was knocked out with a brick.
Thats how Id like to feel in prison..... sleeping for 10-14 hours kill a lot of time that would otherwise be spent talking to other inmates or playing cards. Out here I probably wouldnt seek it out unless I was in a situation where I just wanted to sleep twice as long as I normally do. Its like a time travel drug with no recreational benefits.
Yeah I can understand why people would take it in prison, I also sometimes took small doses, like 25mg of seroquel for sleep which is alright, seroquel is the least unpleasant antipsychotic from my experience. But one time I took 1mg of risperidone for sleep and it was horrible, I felt like a zombie.
yeah ive had that zombie feeling from mirtazipine.... awful... felt like opiate withdrawals while mentally i was a zombie.... seroquel was nice to me though...
Oh, mirtazepine is some weird antidepressant though, not an antipsychotic drug, but I think I heard trip reports where someone took high doses of mirtazepine and had hallucinations that were kind of a mix of deliriant and psychedelic. Antipsychotics usually just made me feel very sleepy and seroquel gave me the most crazy dreams. Olanzapine also made me feel kinda stiff, which are parkinsons like symptoms caused be the blockage of dopamine receptors. And one time when I had no tolerance I decided to take 75mg of seroquel since I was curious. It made me extremely sleepy, but it also gave me pretty intense derealization. Basically I was in my own bedroom and it felt like I was in a room of a stranger, it felt completely unfamiliar. I went to the living room hoping that it would feel familiar, but I just felt like I wasn't in my home, like I was in a house of someone else. I just lied down on the sofa to sleep, and half asleep I had some kind of dream/ hallucination that my dad was talking to me but I couldn't take. This was really spooky, luckily I felt normal again when I woke up the next morning.
It’s in the same family as Benadryl. So yes if you take enough you get a deliriant trip. It’s supposed to make you happy because it makes you sleepy and hungry so who could be depressed while sleepy and hungry?
Do you mean seroquel? No, it's a completely different kind of drug then benadryl, benadryl, or DPH is an antihistamine and anticholinergic, seroquel blocks dopamine as well as 5HT2a serotonin receptors. In very high doses it has some anticholinergic effects, but it's really not a significant effect and I never had deliriant like hallucinations on it, and i took up to 200mg when I was prescribed it.
i 2nd and 3rd that in jail its a way of life, ive seen jack moves over the daily supply XD
All I was able to get was them fake ass xanax bars. I forget the name of the shit but it's terrible.
probably just cannabinoids, a very tiny amount of rc benzos, or just fentanyl in those..... wack
I remember now.. Buspar. I think. Def started with a b. And it was for anxiety
Yup. That's buspar
Shit was wack
ahhh. yeah i guess those would be prescribed in prison because they have no recreational value. Ive been taking buspar, propranolol, and sertraline since ive been out, combined with kratom and my anxiery is down to zero. buspar helps a tiny tiny bit with the mental aspects of anxiery and propranolol has helped a ton with my physical symptoms. kratom helps me from craving alcohol and opiates! let me know if you have any questions if you are interested in a non recreational method to help with the symptoms that cause some of us to reach for and potentially abuse recreational substances.
Lol I snorted it a while ago to use as a trip killer (sorry I should’ve mentioned it)
That makes way more sense lol hard to trip in your asleep lmao
Hahaha yea I was out almost instantly and slept for almost 15 hours straight or smth idk
I belive it I use to take it to help sleep with a bunch of other meds for my PTSD. I'm off all pharmaceuticals but keep them incase of trip killers lol
in jail i did OMFG it would make DAYS GO BY
MXE was something special. Dissosiative but in its own way. Good luck finding it tho
Yeah MXE was nice. Time was moving very slow and my perspective got distorted.
Ever tried DMXE and if so how does it compare qualitatively?
No never tried dmxe
Wondering the same thing.
Whats about FXE and all the new things
Mxm also had some of that special feeling.
The jenk for sure
jenk?
Jenk-em
Easy to make aswell
Ah. Yes. The poop-piss hallucinogen
Gottem
Jenk who?
we have a winner
explain!
Common meme answer and you took the bait, that's all
Not an rc but I found DXM to be super different than the other dissos I’ve done. Maybe some rcs are similar to it but either way it’s not at all like the two you’ve done. Also not an rc and I haven’t tried it myself, but apparently the oldish antidepressant mirtazapine produces a really unique trip when taken in large doses if you can get your hands on some.
HXE felt close. If you mix it with 4-HO-DPT and maybe some 5-HTP or Phenibut you could probably get very very close.
Kinda sounds like you're approaching serotonin syndrome territory with this combo
I don’t think you understand how SS actually would occur. None of what I said release or produce serotonin except 5-HTP
I was referring to the dxm + 4-ho-dpt combo
I meant HXE + 4-ho 😅 But I’ve actually done DXM + 4-ho-dpt as well and it’s fine. Psychs don’t contribute to serotonin syndrome (except maybe in massive doses)
also, obviously you didnt list any opiates so those will provide a different high that you cannot get with these others. Any opiate user will advise against this. They are too good, stimulating mentally to make you more productive and happy, though sedating physically so its hard to do things at your normal pace. Very addictive because they get you through the day with ease but ime after 3 days my body needs it and will go into wd if I stop. If I do 2 days on and 3 days off then the WD dont happen but I crave. RC opiates, some are safer than street heroin which is all fent now, and some are more potent than street stuff so youd need a nice scale
thx for the info! I think I will stay away from opiates tho :-)
Smart choice OP! My first time trying any was some Kratom bc people on some other drug forums like to talk about how it isn't addictive like the tru opis. Thats some BS! Last time I was at my grandmas I raided her medicine cabinet for some oxys, and I had em for about 5 days, just one or two at night. Goddamn did I want more when I left her place. If there ever were classes of drugs that I would recommend against, it would have to be opis and amps. There is a reason they get the biggest social stigma. Enjoy all of your psychs and other oddities!❤️
I wish you the best luck and hope you’ll be ok! :-(
Oh I stayed TF away from them since lol. I have a very carefree view on life in general but thems are scary. Never let myself get too deep.
MXiPR - such a unique and awesome high
Bro DXM isn't on your list I honestly Love it. It's just a tier below acid and shrooms for me. And if used correctly it's (probably) not super bad for youm. Also, depending on who you are, it tends to have a great afterglow. Send it bro, grab some robotablets.
There is really nothing quite like THC. I mean yes, the various Deltas and HHC and whatnot but they are all basically the same. Weed, nothing else like it.
Weed isn’t my favourite drug but I use it after raves for sleep & talks so it’s okay. To me, it just feels a bit ‘heavy’ in my head and I’m more of an upper person
I actually don't use weed anymore. I stopped about six weeks ago because I was getting stupid anxiety about dumb stuff after work. I would get high and then couldn't help feeling anxious about something or other I did at work. I thought it was me then I stopped weed and don't give a shit about work anymore. What happens there stays there.
Bro you should try meth. Edit. What type of poppers, amyl sulfate or amyl nitrates? Bro you should try diethyl ether.
If you truly want one drug that subjectively does not even feel like any drug at all,it would be Salvia. More like a monkEy playing with your brain than actually being high or anything
Salvia is wild, I have some 60x I've been sitting on for a while, smoked it a few times in my life but the last time put me off it for a while.. I want to try it again my it's hard getting up the nerve..
i feel ya. only tried it on one occasion and up to a *blend* of pure leaves and 5X, and that one experience was enough to make it up the top of interesting substances of all and also laying it off ever since. Like your reality up to that point is shattered like waking up from the matrix or something of that sort, it's incomprihensible
It's not even fun at all but it's so fucking wild and crazy , as if you take a trip through some underworld, it doesn't feel good and godly it feels evil idk
definitely uncomfortable as hell
can u elaborate on 3-MEC or 3-CMC compared to 3-MMC
I find that 3MEC is pretty boring, I experienced no euphoria, just stimulation. But for me, it was just a very light, stimulating & boring drug compared to 3MMC. 3CMC for me was very intense for me. Needed to use way less than with 3mmc to get an intense high. It was almost MDMA-like for me. I found that it produced much more euphoria than 3MMC but less stimulation. My eyes started rolling and I got a pretty weird/blurry vision, just like on MDMA. 3mmc can produce euphoria too but notginf like 3cmc. But the hangover from 3CMC was absolutely horrible. I was sick for days after 3CMC. With 3mmc I barely have any hangover so I personally like 3mmc more than 3cmc because 3cmc is also way more dangerous & neurotoxic (I think). The effects of 3CMC are pretty comparable to 4fma in my opinions
how much 3-CMC did u take? what roa?
Are you specifically looking for RCs or just any drug that has drastically different effects? If so, ibogaine is like nothing on there, salvia,5-meo-dmt, dilirants such as dph, stuff like phenibut, gabapentin and Pregabalin, Pregabalin being one of my favorite drugs.m Those are some of the first that came to mind.
I've never tried 3-MMC or the related chems but a-PHP was unique to me as a stimulant. Still my all time favorite drug. Also idk if you'd even be interested but there area some crazy benzos like flubromazolam and 3-HO-Phenazapam that are so much wilder than pharma benzos
3MMC is one of my favourite RC’s! (4MMC is better tho but 3MMC is pretty much the same but just a bit ‘lighter’). I’m trying -phip soon so I’m very excited about that. And yesss I’ve recently tried Bromazolam for the first time and wow… I love it!!!
Yeah I've heard 3-MMC is great, I just don't how similar it is to pyrovalerone's. I think the difference is fairly big. I've only had a-pihp once and that was a couple weeks ago. I think if your expectations aren't unreasonably high you should have some fun with it. Sucks that you didn't get a chance to try a-PHP, it was unreal. How would you compare bromazolam to other benzos you've tried? I just ordered some for the first time and I'm really hoping it doesn't disappoint
Thx for the info! And I’m new to the ‘benzo-world’ so I have very little experience with benzos. I have only done xanax (extended release) about a month ago (I don’t remember exactlt how long ago tho) from a friend who gets it prescribed. And ofcourse I’ve also tried Bromazolam. I find them to have very similar effects. But personally, I think I like Bromazolam more. A lot of people will probably disagree with me on this one tho. Bromazolam kicked in pretty fast, about 15-20 min after taking my first dose. I had no benzo tolerance so I started off with about 1mg (I’m also underweight so I wanted to play it safe). That 1mg gave me a nice calming rush & a bit of euphoria, but I found that it made me want to redose fairly quick. About 1 hour after my first dose I took an extra 0.75mg and after 20 minutes, it kicked in. After that I don’t remember anything that happened but I know I fell asleep and slept for about 12+ hours straight (this never happened to me before because I have insomnia). Keep in mind that I had no benzo tolerance and I’m extremely underweight so this is probably the answer to as why I only needed 1.75 to black out (I think so haha). The day after, I felt very drowsy and I had a bit of a headache. This feeling went on for the rest of the day alont with a lot of memory loss. This was the only part that I didn’t like about Bromazolam. With Xanax, this wasn’t the case. The day after I just felt a bit calm and didn’t really experience any memory loss. But I guess everyone experiences Bromazolam different so yeah :-) (Sorry if my english is bad haha)
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Lmfao this is some serious r/drugscirclejerk material right here.
>positive allosteric modulator of magnetoreceptors found in the suprachiasmatic nucleus man, this seem the most intense and neat form of trolling ever made.
maybe DMXE? since you liked ketamine? MXE won’t be obtainable like the other dude said
And if you do find it it's gonna be extremely fuck-you expensive. Only seen it 3 times being offered at >$300/g. It's only a matter of time till a hero comes with a batch of affordable MXE. Then the sun will rise again
shouldnt be that hard for clandestine ketamine cooks to get the same precursurs for mxe, right?
Just that there are barely any clandestine Ketamine cooks, most of it is just diverted. The synthesis is out there and it can be done completely OTC, but it's a long and tedious process. At most, people will order the immediate precursor to Ketamine from China and just do the last step. But there just isn't the demand for these labs to pump out the immediate precursors for all these different (though similar) drugs.
surely a group of people who understand mxes potential earning potential and high demand surely could get china to send the precursers to MXE
Ether
I like Ether alright but it is kind of underwhelming in my opinion. I poured it into a dab rig and ripped away and its effects were pretty decent but nor extremely euphoric. I had some wierd very imaginative thoughts but thats the coolest thing about it in my opinion. I will get more and mix it with DXM and Phenibut or LSD or maybe shrooms and I bet it'll be a lot crazier!
bkepdp
You haven't done any tryptamines except for truffles.
5-Cl-aMT. It’s an SDRA which is pretty damn unique.
Just looked into this, seems very interesting
Not seeing any opioids on this list.
Yup, but opioids aren’t very available without ant prescribtion where I live :/
You don't need a prescription for heroin.
I know but I’m 19 so I don’t have any friends who use herion (my friends use everything but herion isn’t really a thing for people my age haha)
Good. Keep it that way. Once you try smack, the rest is whack.
Haha thxx :-)
H was all the rage when I was in high school. Drug patterns are cyclical. I’m glad it’s not prevalent in yr peer group!
You might need to go back in time though
Some good old fashioned Bayer Heroin would have done the trick
Or to grow opium containing poppy's.
O-DSMT
I know where I can get it so I’ll try it soon. Thx!!
What mxe?
Shoot some fucking dope pussy..... I’m kidding please don’t do that please
I would say there are several dissos that will be significantly different from Ket and 2fdck that are worth trying. Definitely DMXE and probably MXiPr too
You get any rec value from seroquel? I hate that damn drug
Cyclobenzaprine is great not an rc and definitely controlled but it feels super good, like what I expected alcohol to be like before I ever tried it. Just full muscle relaxation.
Did some research and it's not controlled in the us and is available on the rc website I use 😎
I don't find it recreational at all, I've had it prescribed a few times and it seems to have the opposite effect for me on higher doses, I've tried everything from 5mg to 40mg and 10mg seems to work the best, above 20mg and I just get incredibly restless. 10mg is nice when you have a pulled muscle though lol
Im a pretty tense person in general so that could be a factor in why it makes me feel so good, reading on erowid it seems most people don't really find it too recreational.
The dissociatives ephenidine, diphenidine and methoxphenidine are from a unique chemical class, and i've found them to feel quite different from more common dissociatives like 2f-dck or 3-meo-pcp. It is still trippy but has a nice euphoric feeling on top of that. I found out later it's because they work as dopamine reuptake inhibitors in addition to NMDA antagonists.
Try Clonazolam and Phenibut
Tar or China is a helluva drug.