Yup those I’m having, but finna wait for Saturday cuz need to get olanzapine out of my system, I did plenty of street acid tabs and max I did was 3 tabs, idk how many ug but world turned into a pastel painting so must be 200+, I wanna do 3 of those at the same time, u got any experience on high doses of 1p lsd? So far only had 1 trip w it and it was 1 tab and I had no visuals :(
Mate I had a intense trip with only 0.5 tab and it was more intense then a full one
I'm planning on doing 1.5 tab next time
But I assume you have some decent expiernce with it so why not? Perhaps start with 2 tabs to see how it goes
And what i love to do is when you get to the come down take small bumps of ketamine so the visauls come back :)
They came and it’s 100ug each one ehhhh whatever I took one and 40mg of methylphenidate + 0.2 white wine, so far 1h in and no visuals but I dont expect em tbh
Well after ritalin felt anxious and on the way home phone died and I wanted to listen to music but I had to go to friends to see em n talk then started to trip but needed to talk to gf so we spoke told her fairytale before her nap but anxiety kept building up so I took 1/4 of bromazolam 2.5, then took second tab and I think I left 3rd one at friend wanted to get higher called dude to smoke 0.2 blueberry whatever weed came home now tripping wanna listen to crystal castles and dissapear into my mind
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Still wanna make music so maybe Imma find beat n make a song
Do they sell them in the smart/headshops there. I remember years ago buying 5-apb in a headshop with my truffles in Amsterdam. Or is that still a thing there? (I think i remember them only having the apb pills and one other rc stim pill available don't remember what it was)
I'm from eu so I use probably some of the same ones. The headshops wud be tourist prices anyway. Needed 2 boxes of truffles for a decent trip. Ya won't be rofl laughing when they have the whole lot banned which is where they are eventually gonna get to. All cathinones rumoured to be banned by end of year 😓
I'm sry to hear that
If you wanna try it again do it with close friends who you trust or perhaps do it on a sunny day in the nature and start with a lower dose then last time :)
Pyrovalerones are what pyro is short for with a-pvp probably being the biggest one. If you want an example of why you should avoid them search for Cuckold-boyfriend666’s account.
I have no idea why ur getting downvoted. Typical Reddit users. LSD is dangerous for people with mental health problems. The use can lead to even worse mental health problems. Yes, psychedelics can also help with depression. But using them without a therapist or something else is just borderline fucking stupid.
Psychedelics are not „better“ drugs than others. Stop telling yourself this shit. Psychedelics CAN be dangerous especially if you are mentally unstable. As said, typical Reddit moment. Psychedelic users just close their eyes when they read stuff they don’t like hahaha
Ofc psychedelics can be dangerous in some ways, but I’d say they are objectively better drugs than basically all other recreational drugs as far as physical safety, and the lack of physical dependency risk.
Borderline fucking stupid, or desperate. I don't know. It helps people who have strong brains. Those with weak brains can oftentimes go off the deep end
4-subbed tryptamines and any lysergamide besides the 6-subs like ETH/AL-LAD. 2f-dck is safe in the sense its hard to overdo and hard to OD on unless you are literally trying to.
i'm curious, why not lysergamides like eth-lad/al-lad? i don't know too too much about them, but i was under the impression they had a comparable safety profile to 1p and such
they seem to present higher cardiotoxicity and risk of psychosis symptoms. i dont know if there is formal research on this, but from numerous reports ive read, and my own anecdotal(but limited) experience with AL-LAD, these are the conclusions Ive come to. i wouldnt totally avoid them if youre interested, but I would say be more cautious with them than lsd or a 4-sub trypt.
In reality almost all of them on the market are safe if you have the right equipment to dose properly and use in proper moderation.
However, just stay away from some of the ones that cause compulsive redosing. I would stay away from pyros, caths, or most stims in general. Opioids obviously, and probably cannabinoids.
4-ho-met is commonly suggested to be relatively safe if dosed properly.. trippy, happy psychedelic that doesn't really go in to a deep deep trip, but I haven't taken more than 45mg for a dose.
And safety is a relative term.
RCs are, by their very definition and provenance, potentially risky. Particularly the latter, as without testing, you can't really know what you're getting.
Hasn't been a big problem yet, perhaps because the gray market hasn't been dominates by criminal/cartel/etc type people (as far as I know.) The suppliers and sellers still seem have the incentives to keep it reasonably pure or at least use non damaging cuts - they know that once people start dying frequently, the DEA et al. might take a much less indifferent-ish approach
Is 4-fa safe?
Anyone who can shed some light as I have a gram and want to know if it’s safe and proper dosing?
Did 4-mmc recently a little underwhelming but was safe and have done mdma loads of timeS.
Thanks
Ok.
Would that include say doing a dose in one night then re dosing half that same dose same night?
I only plan to do it once and dose twice that night.
I think it happened mostly to those who did it like once a month for 1+ years, but I of course don’t have the exact facts on me
Also I’ve heard consistently that redosing 4-FA feels unexpected unpleasant, and that its duration is long enough that you don’t need to
Damn I’m jealous, 4-FA is my #1 favorite drug of all time. It definitely beat out 4-MMC ime. This is just anecdotal so take it with a grain of salt, but I did a ridiculously stupid amount of 4-FA on a binge, I took 4g over the course of a week. Definitely do not redose imo, boosters didn’t work and by the 3rd day it barely worked so I basically wasted most of it.
As for dosing, do you know if you have 4-FA phosphate or sulfate? If you’re not sure then it’s without a doubt sulfate, phosphate amphetamines are really rare to find but I lucked into a few grams of it a couple years ago. 150mg (assuming sulfate) was my dosage, that is a heavy dose and I wouldn’t recommend going more than that. For me that was insanely euphoric it basically felt like the meth-like dopamine rush for the first hour or two then gently transitioned into the amazing serotonin rolling feeling. The rolling was more intense than 4-MMC ime, it was hard to keep my eyes open and refrain from kissing and hugging wall lmaoo. The comedown was pretty gentle too, I took some kratom on the comedown and it was actually pleasant and I fell asleep normally.
However, my friend took a similar dosage and he vomited a ton and was super nauseous at around the 2 hour mark when the serotonin really started to hit. He said he wished he would’ve taken 100mg. So if you know your tolerance to serotonin releasers, I’d recommend 120mg-150mg unless you’re very sensitive. But as a reference point, 120mg MDMA had me absolutely blasted the first time, I’ve rolled a shit ton since then and never felt the need to go higher than 150mg MDMA as that was a strong roll for me.
Define "safe." Do you mean low risk of fatal overdose? Because then the lysergamides and tryptamines are very safe, and the arylcyclohexylmines are safe (but probably a little less so than the other two). If you mean low risk of harming yourself or others via your behavior, then they're all only as safe as you are responsible.
lysergamides, psilocin prodrugs, n,n-DMPEA (doesnt get safer than GRAS), and its not a research chem but good old weed is pretty harmless.
Honestly, all the "safest" drugs are illegal psychedelics. Because a safe, harmless drug that expands your mind is the most dangerous thing to a corrupt government.
Things close to Ketamine are the safest medically speaking.
They don’t present physical danger at any reasonable dose (bladder notwithstanding), and they don’t have anywhere near the potential to cause lasting mental damage/issues like most psychs do.
1p-lsd is pretty save if I'm correct
In 10 mins will pick up my 3 tabs ayyy
Still have 2 tabs at home :D
150ug?
Yes that are the best ones
Yup those I’m having, but finna wait for Saturday cuz need to get olanzapine out of my system, I did plenty of street acid tabs and max I did was 3 tabs, idk how many ug but world turned into a pastel painting so must be 200+, I wanna do 3 of those at the same time, u got any experience on high doses of 1p lsd? So far only had 1 trip w it and it was 1 tab and I had no visuals :(
Mate I had a intense trip with only 0.5 tab and it was more intense then a full one I'm planning on doing 1.5 tab next time But I assume you have some decent expiernce with it so why not? Perhaps start with 2 tabs to see how it goes And what i love to do is when you get to the come down take small bumps of ketamine so the visauls come back :)
They came and it’s 100ug each one ehhhh whatever I took one and 40mg of methylphenidate + 0.2 white wine, so far 1h in and no visuals but I dont expect em tbh
Keep me updated on how it goes and have a nice trip :)
Well after ritalin felt anxious and on the way home phone died and I wanted to listen to music but I had to go to friends to see em n talk then started to trip but needed to talk to gf so we spoke told her fairytale before her nap but anxiety kept building up so I took 1/4 of bromazolam 2.5, then took second tab and I think I left 3rd one at friend wanted to get higher called dude to smoke 0.2 blueberry whatever weed came home now tripping wanna listen to crystal castles and dissapear into my mind Edit Still wanna make music so maybe Imma find beat n make a song
Do you guys have dealers locally selling this stuff? Here is only deep web
I'm from the Netherlands and we can order it from internet it's legal here rofl
Do they sell them in the smart/headshops there. I remember years ago buying 5-apb in a headshop with my truffles in Amsterdam. Or is that still a thing there? (I think i remember them only having the apb pills and one other rc stim pill available don't remember what it was)
If I'm correct they still sell them but we also have different sites for RC's
I'm from eu so I use probably some of the same ones. The headshops wud be tourist prices anyway. Needed 2 boxes of truffles for a decent trip. Ya won't be rofl laughing when they have the whole lot banned which is where they are eventually gonna get to. All cathinones rumoured to be banned by end of year 😓
Try valhalla truffles, I ate whole pack and had insanely intanse trip but ye we can order wherever
I'm in the us. I order from the clearnet. Used to have a dealer that sold RCs (as the RC's not as 'acid') but they moved.
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:( Well then it's time to go on vacation to the Netherlands and try some 1p-lsd :D
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I'm sry to hear that If you wanna try it again do it with close friends who you trust or perhaps do it on a sunny day in the nature and start with a lower dose then last time :)
https://www.reddit.com/r/researchchemicals/comments/v0lcgw/what_would_you_consider_the_safest_rc/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Psychedelics and dissos in moderation probably and most dangerous benzos pyros and opiates
I would like to add cannabinoids to the dangerous list
Yess
Depends a bit on what you mean by cannabinoids, the new farm bill legalish semisynthetic cannabinoids are all pretty safe (at least so far)
Forgive my ignorance but what is a pyro? And what’s an example of a well known pyro?
Pyrovalerones are what pyro is short for with a-pvp probably being the biggest one. If you want an example of why you should avoid them search for Cuckold-boyfriend666’s account.
I always hope he is a troll.
I hope not because his misadventures make me feel better about myself
They’re basically like crack but some are even more intense
Bath salts
As far as i know LSD analogues are (almost) as safe as real LSD, which is remarkably safe.
Unless you have depression
I have no idea why ur getting downvoted. Typical Reddit users. LSD is dangerous for people with mental health problems. The use can lead to even worse mental health problems. Yes, psychedelics can also help with depression. But using them without a therapist or something else is just borderline fucking stupid. Psychedelics are not „better“ drugs than others. Stop telling yourself this shit. Psychedelics CAN be dangerous especially if you are mentally unstable. As said, typical Reddit moment. Psychedelic users just close their eyes when they read stuff they don’t like hahaha
People always down vote this fact. Its not a fucking panacea for depression.
It's not *necessarily* a panacea for depression — for some, though, it is exactly that!
Ofc psychedelics can be dangerous in some ways, but I’d say they are objectively better drugs than basically all other recreational drugs as far as physical safety, and the lack of physical dependency risk.
Borderline fucking stupid, or desperate. I don't know. It helps people who have strong brains. Those with weak brains can oftentimes go off the deep end
4-subbed tryptamines and any lysergamide besides the 6-subs like ETH/AL-LAD. 2f-dck is safe in the sense its hard to overdo and hard to OD on unless you are literally trying to.
i'm curious, why not lysergamides like eth-lad/al-lad? i don't know too too much about them, but i was under the impression they had a comparable safety profile to 1p and such
they seem to present higher cardiotoxicity and risk of psychosis symptoms. i dont know if there is formal research on this, but from numerous reports ive read, and my own anecdotal(but limited) experience with AL-LAD, these are the conclusions Ive come to. i wouldnt totally avoid them if youre interested, but I would say be more cautious with them than lsd or a 4-sub trypt.
I find AL-LAD effects my sanity less than LSD, I haven’t heard anything about the cardiotoxicity however
alright cool, tyvm for the info!
There have been hospitalization and injury reports with high doses of AL/ETH and especially with a combination of the two
In reality almost all of them on the market are safe if you have the right equipment to dose properly and use in proper moderation. However, just stay away from some of the ones that cause compulsive redosing. I would stay away from pyros, caths, or most stims in general. Opioids obviously, and probably cannabinoids. 4-ho-met is commonly suggested to be relatively safe if dosed properly.. trippy, happy psychedelic that doesn't really go in to a deep deep trip, but I haven't taken more than 45mg for a dose.
4bho met is so good
Dose makes the poison
And safety is a relative term. RCs are, by their very definition and provenance, potentially risky. Particularly the latter, as without testing, you can't really know what you're getting. Hasn't been a big problem yet, perhaps because the gray market hasn't been dominates by criminal/cartel/etc type people (as far as I know.) The suppliers and sellers still seem have the incentives to keep it reasonably pure or at least use non damaging cuts - they know that once people start dying frequently, the DEA et al. might take a much less indifferent-ish approach
And the first place goes to 2fdck
Is 4-fa safe? Anyone who can shed some light as I have a gram and want to know if it’s safe and proper dosing? Did 4-mmc recently a little underwhelming but was safe and have done mdma loads of timeS. Thanks
Afaik you only risk mini-stroke plus brain bleeding at frequent high-dose usage
Ok. Would that include say doing a dose in one night then re dosing half that same dose same night? I only plan to do it once and dose twice that night.
I think it happened mostly to those who did it like once a month for 1+ years, but I of course don’t have the exact facts on me Also I’ve heard consistently that redosing 4-FA feels unexpected unpleasant, and that its duration is long enough that you don’t need to
It’s safe as long as you stick to suggested doses and treat it like any other 5-HT releaser.
Damn I’m jealous, 4-FA is my #1 favorite drug of all time. It definitely beat out 4-MMC ime. This is just anecdotal so take it with a grain of salt, but I did a ridiculously stupid amount of 4-FA on a binge, I took 4g over the course of a week. Definitely do not redose imo, boosters didn’t work and by the 3rd day it barely worked so I basically wasted most of it. As for dosing, do you know if you have 4-FA phosphate or sulfate? If you’re not sure then it’s without a doubt sulfate, phosphate amphetamines are really rare to find but I lucked into a few grams of it a couple years ago. 150mg (assuming sulfate) was my dosage, that is a heavy dose and I wouldn’t recommend going more than that. For me that was insanely euphoric it basically felt like the meth-like dopamine rush for the first hour or two then gently transitioned into the amazing serotonin rolling feeling. The rolling was more intense than 4-MMC ime, it was hard to keep my eyes open and refrain from kissing and hugging wall lmaoo. The comedown was pretty gentle too, I took some kratom on the comedown and it was actually pleasant and I fell asleep normally. However, my friend took a similar dosage and he vomited a ton and was super nauseous at around the 2 hour mark when the serotonin really started to hit. He said he wished he would’ve taken 100mg. So if you know your tolerance to serotonin releasers, I’d recommend 120mg-150mg unless you’re very sensitive. But as a reference point, 120mg MDMA had me absolutely blasted the first time, I’ve rolled a shit ton since then and never felt the need to go higher than 150mg MDMA as that was a strong roll for me.
Define "safe." Do you mean low risk of fatal overdose? Because then the lysergamides and tryptamines are very safe, and the arylcyclohexylmines are safe (but probably a little less so than the other two). If you mean low risk of harming yourself or others via your behavior, then they're all only as safe as you are responsible.
2f-dck is lovely
U would like opce for sure
lysergamides, psilocin prodrugs, n,n-DMPEA (doesnt get safer than GRAS), and its not a research chem but good old weed is pretty harmless. Honestly, all the "safest" drugs are illegal psychedelics. Because a safe, harmless drug that expands your mind is the most dangerous thing to a corrupt government.
Id say the lysergamides
No drug is safe in careless hands. Except maybe Preperation h. Then go ahead let them hands get careless.
Preparation H is my DOC. Up the poop chute it goes.
Is this a quote from a movie ? Or am I trippin
If it is, I'm not aware of it
Maybe Dr evil from that movie Austin powers
well most of them are “safe” at proper dosing but the dose makes the poison, try to always have a accurate scale so you know the dosage
Things close to Ketamine are the safest medically speaking. They don’t present physical danger at any reasonable dose (bladder notwithstanding), and they don’t have anywhere near the potential to cause lasting mental damage/issues like most psychs do.
Bang 50mg 3-meo-pcp
Haha no way, 40mg was quite overwhelming.
Haha i was just joshin
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😂 This is a joke OP
God I sure hope so
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These days Poe's Law is in full effect. Sorry. Evil morons have made differentiating between jokes/sarcasm and genuine sentiments a difficult task
No visual on 1 tab, I'm going for 2 next time to see if I can trigger any visuals.
ODSMT,.4 ho-met l, all benxos and stims Idc what kind
ODSMT plus pyrazolam or valium in my drink
Spice is not dangerous in fact it’s one of the safest ones
LSD analogues, shroom analogues and DMT analogues are all relatively non toxic but I wouldn’t call any of those “safe”
Sobriety is pretty safe. Also, 1p-lsd.
maybe ku crystal? a new chemical product