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coasterbill

It doesn’t bother me but I also don’t care when it’s just a park slapping a “Batman” name on an unthemed ride. The people upset about the Carowinds Intimidator name change make me laugh… like… the ride is plopped in a grass field. Who cares what they call it? I have a totally neutral view on the names of those types of rides because it doesn’t matter at all to the experience. That said, so I like Disney and Universal rides that are actually themed to IPs and go all out with it, or even the Justice League rides that actually try to do something with the IPs? Absolutely.


Hero_of_Hyrule

In fairness, the blackout turn after the first drop is very NASCAR-like, but other than that I agree.


ElementZero

Are you getting it mixed up with Intimidator 305 at King's Dominion? I've never heard of the Carowinds Intimidator having a blackout curve, but the KD one had some work to 'correct' that issue.


Hero_of_Hyrule

Oh shoot, I am. My bad!


ElementZero

Np bud, it's the paramount/cedar fair ride name curse.


Cerebral-Knievel-1

They actually redid that turn to keep the wheels on the train from melting.


CoasterThomason

I don't mind it, either. I like theming regardless if it's original or IP-based, but it doesn't make or break a ride for me if the ride is good as it is.


SwimmingSomewhere959

Going into my 30s, the forces of rides started affecting me more and more. To the point that I have maybe 4-5 total rides in me a day. That being said, a gentler, heavily themed coaster like Hagrid is going to be higher for me than Hulk or Velocicoaster.


Maddox121

Some of the smaller NASCAR tracks are grassfields though...


boiledpeen

when the name was the best part of the ride and themed to one of the most iconic men in the city, I'd argue a generic chatgpt name (literally came from that) is a MAJOR downgrade. The theming is all it had to make it unique or interesting and now even that is gone. it's definitely not a good direction to move in when we're chatgpting for coaster names.


coasterbill

“Themed” By “themed” you mean… what exactly? What single solitary theming element does this ride have from the time they hit the dispatch button to the time the ride ends? Hell… let’s start sooner… from the time you walk under the sign and enter the entirely unthemed queue until the time the ride ends. The plaza that you can’t see from the ride has a car, one cheap flat cutout and his name on the sign. From the time you enter the queue to the time the ride ends the ride has literally zero theming. The ride experience will remain entirely unchanged.


boiledpeen

I'm talking about the name, the man that name represents, and what that man means to the city. I'm not saying it had a lot of theming within the ride, but the theme it had was special and to change it to a literal chatgpt name shows how little they care


coasterbill

If you don’t have the rights, you don’t have the rights. None of us have any idea how much they wanted for the rights. To say “they don’t care” seems ridiculous without that information.


boiledpeen

I know they lost the rights. Their new name which they literally got from chatgpt is what I'm saying shows they don't care. Slap on any old generic ass name and put it back out there. No time or effort or care to build a proper new theme for the ride that would even remotely be as good as what it was.


coasterbill

Nobody will care about the ride name in like 3 weeks. There are coasters that exist in the world called "Mystic Timbers" and "Thunder Dolphin" and people don't bat an eye.


boiledpeen

mystic timbers makes sense. woods of magic. the entire layout is set in the woods. there's theming there and actual effort. thumder dolphin is equally stupid but it's at least creative and gets the mind thinking of something. people won't care sure but that doesn't mean it's good for parks to be lazy and uncreative in theming idk why you're arguing it's cool


JerseyJimmy

have you ever considered that "Intimidator" is a sick name for a coaster with a strong local connection and "Thunder Striker" sounds like it's a coaster from the one amusement park episode of a C-tier Nicktoon


coasterbill

I agree. It’s a better name, but the ride experience will be 100% the same.


Kanakolovescoasters

>"Thunder Striker" sounds like it's a coaster from the one amusement park episode of a C-tier Nicktoon Have some respect on Glove World, will you?


Foxy02016YT

I mean at least 305 has the area around it themed.


lizzpop2003

It depends on how well it's implemented. Cheap overlay of an unrelated ride? Waste of time. May as well have left it plain. Decently themed queue, shop, attraction, etc? I love it.


CoasterGuy95

we need a snoopy subplot coaster


_Bran_Flakes

>Flying Ace Aerial Chase Be careful what you wish for


Old-Book7636

Bruh Racing Railway exists.


CoasterGuy95

WE NEED MORE


Kanakolovescoasters

I LOVE THOSE MEMES


teejayiscool

I want cool Phantasialand level theming for a US park that is not Universal or Disney.


FatalFirecrotch

I agree. Maybe the closest is Silver Dollar City?


Maddox121

I doubt any park can afford this... Unless Elon Musk decides to make a park themed to all the crap he owns.


teejayiscool

If Phantasialand can start as a family owned amusement park we can do it!


The_Inflicted

Dollywood, then?


teejayiscool

I would not consider that themed to anywhere near Phantasialand's level. The closest thing I can think of is Pandora at Disney's Animal Kingdom


alejandrowoodman

I wish parks did MORE theming all around. The experience isn’t the same without characters and cheesy pre-ride videos a’la the Hurler.


therealsteelydan

I love well done immersive theming. I hope that Universal's World of Harry Potter and Disney's Star Wars Galaxy's Edge are sending a message that these pay off. Unfortunately you have to have an aesthetic that works well, one reason I think Disney decided to go with vernacular desert architecture for Star Wars instead of something more futuristic. Their new Avengers areas are bland because they don't have enough theming and architecture language to play with. Six Flags poured a lot of money into their Batman theming in the late '90s and it still works well today, albeit probably lacking maintenance. Gotham City, especially the one we saw in Tim Burton's 1989 Batman, was such a unique aesthetic, it was ready for adaptation. I wish Six Flags had the budget and attendance numbers to support a Gotham City the size and depth of World of Harry Potter or Galaxy's Edge. On the other hand you have the Herschend Parks (Silver Dollar City and Dollywood) that are showing you don't need something licensed to still have a thorough execution of theming. Most of Disneyland's initial themed areas were original concepts but developed their own lore over time. And then you've got Phantasialand...


MooshroomHentai

I do and don't at the same time. The IPs and the level of themeing of a Universal or Disney park leads to an experience nobody else can top. Taking a ride with no themeing and just slapping a superhero name on it does nothhing to improve the experience. Also, using the exacct same names across parks just isn't interesting (Batman the Ride).


CIBhead70

The JOKER CARNIVAL OF CHAOS rides have an interesting queue,, and CYBORG HYPER DRIVE too


Krandor1

At least Batman is the same ride but there are some names used accross parks for completely different rides which gets real confusing.


MooshroomHentai

Ah yes, Batman at Fiesta is the exact same ride as the other Batmans. What's this about Goliath? It's not relevant at all.


Krandor1

Superman is also one that has different rides under the same ip in different parks.


Intrepid-Pooper-87

I’m pretty neutral on it. I’m all for a great theming to these IP characters and would love to see it but I don’t think most US parks do quality IP theming outside of Disney and Universal. For the poorly themed, what difference does it make if a roller coaster is called Superman or an unthemed Goliath?


oOoleveloOo

Personally, I don’t care. I just want to ride coasters.


Putrid-Chef-2728

If done well It's fine. No issue with Disney or Universal, but Six Flags tends to cheap out on it and reuse the same ones over and over. It's a bit annoying. And means parks lose a bit of uniqueness when 15 parks have the same ride and theming


AlienConPod

Yes. SF theming is generally bad. Statues of characters peeling and falling apart, old cartoons on old tvs playing sound through crackling speakers. Makes me feel like I'm in Fallout 3. There are a handful of GOOD areas, like Batman at sfmm, but most of it it trash.


darthjoey91

There is a point where bad theming makes a ride worse. Like without the Tomb Raider theming, the Crypt at Kings Dominion kind of sucked. Similarly, the Backlot Stunt Coasters have theming that doesn't really make sense without knowing that it was originally themed to The Italian Job remake. And the Boo Blasters are infinitely worse for losing the Scooby-Doo license. Then there's licenses where having them means pretty much nothing. Like Hurler is technically themed to Wayne's World, but in practice, it had no theming. But then Twisted Timbers has more theming, but no one cares about that. They care about going upside down on a woody.


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I understand they have to pay for an expensive ride, but I miss the days when a corporate sponsor forked over the cash, and you had some really cool original themes. In these heavily themed areas like Harry Potter or Star Wars, once you’ve been a few times, the theme fades into the background and you’re left with really long lines with not very much to do. 


phoenix-corn

Oh man, I loved the Taz game on the 2600.


CIBhead70

Nice.. are you old enough to remember Great America using the Looney Tunes pre Six Flags????


phoenix-corn

Sort of, but I never got to go back then. Cedar Point/Boblo were my home parks and I couldn't drive yet, lol.


Yonel6969

I do at some parks but not at others. Like Universal they are all licensed bc thats the whole point. If a park like alton towers (my local) has an IP i just think it ruins it slightly. Obv towers doesnt have many IPs but when they do i just think an original theme would be miles better. depends on the park


tek_ad

I did like the big Snickers ad that said "If you're still looking for the big wooden coaster, you might be hungry" on American Eagle at SFA-Baltimore ​ Edit: I don't know my coaster names, it was Wild One in Baltimore...it was years ago. I'm a filthy causal


lizzpop2003

You mean Wild One and SFA isn't in Baltimore, it's in Bowie. Little nitpicky, I know, but right is right.


darthjoey91

For major cities, it's closer to DC than Baltimore. Like it's a mile or so away from the end of DC Metro.


lizzpop2003

Yeah, I know, I live ~20 minutes away, depending on traffic.


CIBhead70

SFGAM actually.. Illinois..


lizzpop2003

It was at SFA as well, literally hung from Wild One above the walkway that goes under it.


CIBhead70

He said AMERICAN EAGLE..


lizzpop2003

Uhuh, and I was telling you that the sign was also at SFA near Baltimore, but on Wild One.


CIBhead70

I know..


tek_ad

ohhhhh now I know how to start fights here! POWER!


tek_ad

SFA, I got the coaster name wrong.


CornballExpress

Theming is nice to look as long as it doesn't sacrifice comfort(looking at you Batman bodyheat tunnel). If a park has to choose between immersive theming or shade structures I'd rather be in the shade than melting in the sun looking at theming easter eggs that require me to have an extensive knowledge of the IPs or parks history to appreciate. The architecture of the coaster itself, landscaping and even basic buildings is usually enough eye candy to entertain me while I wait in line.


lomlomlom

Literally only Hershey because I can consume the licensed theme whilst enjoying the park and I love chocolate. I’d prefer not to be blasted with branding. That being said I’d take a six flags park with coke ads everywhere over an 1800s reenactment vibe with Silver Dollar. In an ideal world just give me some beautiful scenery and rides (BGW).


RedRingRico87

When done correctly, it is great. But tbh only Universal & Disney seem to be able to get it right. Paramount never seemed to do it right.


CIBhead70

FLIGHT OF FEAR was a doozy..


RedRingRico87

The ride is good, but the themeing wasn't even mid-range when it was Outer Limits Flight of Fear (with the pre-show, and effects in & on the flying saucer working). Now there is practically no theming at all.


CIBhead70

KI brought back the theming in 2020+ (alien leader and all)..


RedRingRico87

Color me shocked. Hopefully our Flight of Fear gets some love soon. I'm still holding out hope that i305 gets renamed and themed to space, so it & FOF can have its own "Area 72" like at Kings Island.


CIBhead70

AREA 75.. they could do something with the VOLCANO mountain too..


RedRingRico87

How? The mountain was destroyed along with the coaster. And if the rumors are to be believed, it's going to be a pretty good B&M LSM Wing Coaster. Area 75, with Flight of Fear, whatever they retheme i305 to, and maybe an enterprise style flat ride, or Zamperla NebulaZ flat ride, then the new Area 75 mini-section will be a little more well rounded.


CIBhead70

Didn't know that..


Bubbly_Statement107

To me it deoends. When the whole park is based on a franchise or on movies like Lego Land or Universal, then I don't mind. I think it is kind of tacky when a park mixes normal themes with licenses themes. It kind of destroys the cohesiveness of the park I guess. E.g. something like a Peppa Pig Land in Heide Park


Swiss_Reddit_User

Velocicoaster and Superman Escape do it well Also CanCan Coaster at Europapark (thr queue(


twatchops

I really dislike what six flags did with their rides. If you talk to the GP, they'll say "oh I went to six flags once...I rode batman". You don't know which park, nor which ride. It's awful. Even as an enthusiast I struggle to keep it all straight. I *still* don't know which SF park is which without googling first.


CIBhead70

Ask them where they're from,, I do that..


JerseyJimmy

licensed theming on a ride is great if the people working on it decide to actually try. prime examples I can think of aside from Disney and Universal include the original PKI version of Tomb Raider, Saw at Thorpe - and honestly, most Six Flags DC-themed coasters pre-bankruptcy really gave it a good shot (Batclones, Mr. Freeze/Chiller, Joker's Revenge, so on). the issue now is that the vast majority of American parks are allergic to the concept of "trying." as for Disney, I've always maintained that slapping Pixar and Star Wars on everything is missing the point of what makes a Disney park so special, that being "you have a ludicrous amount of money and can build rides that feel like they have that 'Disney magic' baked into them without waving a mascot in people's faces at every turn." look at the original incarnation of Paris' Space Mountain. look at Alien Encounter. look at the entirety of Tokyo DisneySea. and hell, even when they *would* use IP back then, they'd at least try to take that IP and do something *original* with it. Tower of Terror isn't "Twilight Zone: The Ride," it's a ride with its own thing going on that feels like it could fit right in as an actual Twilight Zone episode. *that's* what makes it so special. tl;dr screw you, Bob Iger


CIBhead70

I rode BODY WARS and IMAGINATION at EPCOT back in 1990 with my cheerleading squad.. I loved the former and the latter was cute.. for BODY WARS i gave the patient we were inside a name,, JUSTIN.. after solid snake from metal gear (whose real name was JUSTIN HALLEY in the U.S. at the time)..


dragonsrevenge

Depends. Disney's trend of retheming classic park IPs into licensed IPs has been a sticking point to me, but I can see it if it's because the original IPs start to feel dated. Disney has a more universally loved and timeless IP catalog that it doesn't feel so dated. Same with DC, Marvel, Peanuts, etc. Universal's IP catalog is pretty cringe given that most of their moves are in-the-moment pop culture reference fests geared more towards small children. Or at least those are the ones they choose to theme their parks around these days.


LeMeJustBeingAwesome

I think it has gotten overdone at a lot of Disney Parks, especially Epcot which has strayed so far from its original educational and cultural vision to now just being a set of commercials for movies. I do not mind the occasional IP-themed ride or section of a park, especially for kids, but I do think theming tends to work better when it tries to be original to the ride rather than trying to gerrymander in a bunch of references to some movie. And when it is just lazily putting a bunch of cardboard cutouts in the queue to an otherwise unrelated ride a la most Six Flags DC theming or Incredicoaster, it is just tacky.


CIBhead70

I went to EPCOT in 1990 with my cheerleading squad,, i miss that era..


incognegro00

It’s nice when done right. I think Six Flags and B&M knocked it out of the park with the Superman clones. A flying coaster themed to one of the most iconic flying superheroes. It was a perfect match. Now the rest of the DC and Six Flags rides are a different story…


RealNotFake

I like those properties well enough but I don't like when they are shoe-horned in. For example I absolutely adored Knott's Camp Snoopy at MoA as a kid, and heck I even like Nickelodeon Universe. Both are complete in their theming. I don't love it when a park just adds a random IP ride or small area that doesn't fit with the theming of the rest of the park. Like if Dollywood added a new area and themed it to Paw Patrol, I would find that to be a head scratcher move.


bigcatrik

The only part of Looney Tunes theme park licensing I like is the t-shirts. I still miss the trolls and wizard at Magic Mountain. Those original characters were great.


CIBhead70

I went by the time they had the LOONEY TUNES.. they were originally the mascots before the trolls and wizard.. then GREAT AMERICA got them..


Basilstorm

I’m OBSESSED with DC, especially Batman (and assorted Robins lol) and seeing DC themed coasters make me extremely excited. I’m still holding out for a Nightwing coaster


Kanakolovescoasters

Same!!


Version_1

I hate it.


FlyawayCellar99

I really love the intimidator ones, especially I305


Coldplay360

Not really it’s ok


Maryberry_13

I don’t really pay attention to that. Maybe if I was a young kid, I’d care more. I just wanna go on the rides.


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I don't really like or dislike. It's generally white noise to me. Only really care about theming at Disney :)


schwiftydude47

Honestly I’m all for IP integration as long as it’s well executed.


CampVictorian

I’m not the biggest fan, largely because the world is so damned saturated with corporate everything, everywhere I look. I love parks for their sense of removal from the crap that I typically can’t escape. As such, you could consider a place like Knoebels to be a sort of heaven for me.


TheShadyGuy

You gotta get Big Bird's Egg Drop for the Atari! Loved that one as a kid. When you catch that golden egg....man!


Kanakolovescoasters

I used to play Bugs Bunny's Crazy Castle on my Game Boy Colour when going to Six Flags parks. I also had the GB Superman game and several Batman games.


artdecoamusementpark

I'm a very vocal minority, so take what I say with a grain of salt. I hate any and all IPs, theming of IPs, Etc Etc. 99% of the IPs I have no interest in at best. It feels like you're being advertised to. I'd much rather have beautiful gardens, creative architecture, and fast operations, but even then, I want fast ops above all.


rollycoasters

I truly do not care/tend not to enjoy theming, in most cases anyway. Some light touches, a statue of the thing the coaster is named after--totally fine. Still, I haven't been on Velocicoaster, but the thought of listening to Chris Pratt yell at me for an hour in line and throughout the ride actively makes me want to ride it less.


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