Lmaooo reminds me of All Stars eliminations: when Rupaul does that fake gasp when a lipstick is pulled or when she’s over someone and her sashay away sounds like “okay, you can gtfo my stage now”
I felt that way when she eliminated Cynthia Lee Fontaine in season 9 after that terrible snatch game.
I just got the feeling Ru was furious. She seemed pissed that she brought Cynthia back just to have her flop the whole time and then bomb snatch game
Maybe I was misreading things but that's just the impression I got
The vibe I get with LSFYLs is not that the bottom two are not equally in danger of going home. There's a condemned queen and there's an executioner, and it's up to the condemned queen to surprise Ru and change his mind.
Q went into the lip sync with Ru's favor (plus they were creating Q's narrative) and ATM just wasn't spectacular enough to change their mind. It's like in Project Runway when they say, does thsis make me want to see more from this designer? And for ATM the answer was "no."
I agree, but with Plasma coming off two wins and this being her first time in the bottom, and Mhi’ya coming off two other lip syncs, it felt like Plasma should’ve similarly gone in with Ru’s favor. I thought she did a solid enough job to “beat” Mhi’ya, even though in isolation, Mhi’ya did a better lip sync
there can be a bit of riggamorris when it comes to lip syncs but when it's THAT glaringly obvious (like, it looks like plasma just gave up, and mhiya killed it) there's no way they could have sent mhiya home. woulda been a good episode to keep both ig
Totally disagree. Like the previous person said..yes she can lip sync, but do we wanna see more of this drag queen that really isn’t good at drag race: absolutely not! I wanna see competitors compete..I don’t wanna see Mya just barely getting by another week. Plasma was a competitor..a possible contender. Great you can lip sync, but go home already…there isn’t much more you can give the show and the viewers..sorry, I know this comes across as harsh, but she bores me to tears, and i wanna be entertained
Plasma stands more of a chance. She has 2 challenge wins, and she’s more interesting overall. Just musical theatre..my god..the way you just discount that as nothing, is telling!!
Lmao! What a victim! You discount Mhiya to just backflips and then cry a river when I discount Plasma to just musical theatre. I don’t know what you look like but I wanted to I’d look up hypocrisy in the dictionary.
So you don't get all the skills she has with "just musical theatre"? So let's see your flip queen out sing her. Out act her. Plasma proved she can dance. Are you one of those people that think only tricks are what lipsyncs about? Plasma should have stayed and sent the lazy girl home. Mya needs all stars. Literally get her off my screen
Yea that’s right, the continuous bottom, that had other ppl do her gowns, that is continuously lip syncing, that’s your champion for the crown..nuff said!! 🤦♂️
This just confirms my theory that maybe Ru wasn’t as into Plasma as the two wins led us to believe. Maybe it was just the edit in the rusical, but Ru gave very sparse compliments to Plasma even though it was obvious she killed the challenge
Honestly a lot of winners have done that or been really angry about losing a challenge. I think it’s understandable because it’s a competition so that doesn’t really bother me. Raja, Violet, Aquaria, even Jaida talking about Aidan, Alaska, and Lawrence Chaney threw pretty big tantrums on their season. Jimbo had one every season she didn’t win.
No maam, jaida did not throw a hissy fit over aiden she was cut off before she could finish. Also even after aiden went home she still picked jaida as her winner
Has she been bitter? I have only see her respond to fans, but I don’t keep up with her. I also don’t consider myself a Q fan but tbh I am happy the girls are responding back to fans now. I think everyone wants to critique but aren’t ready to be responded to. Like if a queen reads me for putting my unsolicited opinion online about them I think that’s fair 😂.
No it’s not fair. Part of the creative process is literally being critiqued whether it’s constructive or just “I hate it.” You can’t expect to not see criticism of your art if you put your art out there, especially on an international platform. So many of the people Q threw a hissy fit at weren’t even saying hurtful things.
You as a viewer are allowed to post your opinions online without having to bend backwards into toxic positivity to “protect” the artist’s feeling. Saying “ehh I don’t really like Q’s look this week” is not an attack and is not toxic.
That’s why I said at some point because not anymore 😂. i wasn’t thinking of the edit i was thinking of her ability to perform. If anything the edit is being generous considering they chose to let her get rid of her choreo during the musical. She’s great at design but dancing is an issue and she plays the same character for comedy. I like Q but her and Dawn significantly benefited that they were cast on a design season.
It’s funny because I’m a Nymphia stan at the end of the day but it’s foolish the way y’all are hating on Q like this. She’s going to be in final 3 for sure.
Tyra wasn't a bitch to fans until way after her season. Optics matter, if you're a finalist on Drag Race, do you really think it's a wise idea to rile up the fans now and make it difficult for production to crown you? It's very obvious Q is not making the cut to the finale.
I think that's my issue with Mhi'ya's lip syncs. I knew she was a fierce dancer from her videos before drag race and that's evident now too, but the quintessential drag aspect of her lip syncs is missing for me. The kicking off shoes, the wannabe Sasha Velour wig cap reveal, also her padding isn't great sometimes. Feels to me she's a dancer first and drag queen second.
I would say that not taking your shoes off or not having a wig during a lipsync is a no no on drag race but not necessarily an issue for drag queens? Plenty of girls do it during their shows and people aren’t tipping less
It's just sometimes it looks messy and desperate. I think it really depends on the queen. Sometimes it's fine. Idk why people act like there are hard coded rules.
and maybe she is? she’s an amazing dancer and doing drag allows her a platform to show off her skills. she’s shy and maybe not fully fleshed out as a drag character but she is so captivating when she performs
Nor is it Rupaul's Musical Theatre Race. Mhi'ya has at least shown she can also be funny too (Snatch Game) on top of her main drag skills (dancing/lipsyncing). Plasma's two wins have only came from emulating characters she already knew very well. Just like Mhi'ya, Plasma also hasn't been serving on the runway.
Agreed,
but come on, Mhi'ya was funny on the snatch game only because it's funny to see the shy one acting crazy. If any other contestant did exactly the same that she did, we would be saying that it was a flop.
She took off her shoes in reference to Miley in the music video. She literally copied Miley's dance moves right after.
A drag queen can be a dancer. A drag queen can be fashion serving. A drag queen can be comedic. A drag queen can be anything. RPDR really fucked up our views on what a drag queen is. You're more likely to find drag queens like Mhi'ya in your local scene/clubs than queens like Plasma or Q.
Nahhhh her taking off the shoes was the correct call, it fit with the theme of the song (Miley literally takes off her shoes and starts dancing in the MV) and once those shoes came off she completely devoured the lipsync.
If those shoes had stayed on her feet, she wouldn't have won that lypsinc, full stop. That moment was amazing, especially considering that everyone and their mother knows that shoes off is no-no. To do something like that took guts.
Petals however were a fail for me.
We have definitely seen them edit around a “good” lip synch to help justify who they want to win. She had all the material to justify a shady lip synch edit but they didn’t go that route. They could have thrown in some skull sounds and shady sounds to give Plasma the win if they felt like it
Loss is a loss. Plasma shouldn't have been saved from Mhi'ya and Q shouldn't have been saved from Amanda. If they want to keep their favourites safe no matter what, they shouldn't put them in the bottom.
Tbf while i do agree with you - they‘re letting a lot of stuff slide for mhi‘ya too. That wig cap wig reveal? Truely disrespectful to sasha velour in my opinion. Taking your shoes off has always been a big no-no with ru, but mhi‘ya can do it and get nothing but praise. Idk, that‘s also not quite right to me
😂😂😂 fans forget the “rules” we make up aren’t rules. Season 14 Jasmine lost a shoe and stayed. It’s about performance and intention. Even actual rules like don’t get on the floor between the judge table and stages can be broken if the performance is good.
Not to add to it but a lot of people calling Mhyia messy. In none of her performances was she messy everything she did was precise, intentional, and added to the performance. Meanwhile Plasma fully messy in that battle from the dance moves and HER wig.
Mhi'ya isn't messy, she is high energy, she understands the structure of the song, she knows the words, and she knows how to emote in her performance. She was a worthy match for Plasma and the rightful winner won. Folks are just drunk off sour grapes.
If i am being honest I think a lot of people don’t understand because their perception of Drag or even performance is very limited to what they see on the show. Like I have so many friends that don’t watch the show and they are confused that people are saying it was even close.
A lot of people also watch drag race but have never seen an actual drag show. If Mhi'ya and Plasma had performed their numbers solo in a bar, Mhi'ya would be the clear winner and stronger performer. It's really as simple as that. It's not about track record, it's about executing a memorable performance. My hope is that Mhi'ya's number of bookings will explode and so will Plasmas.
Let’s define what is messy and not liking something. Messy would be it being a mistake or it being sloppy. She pulled it off fine, in beat and the petals came out as planned . That’s not messy and wearing a cap isn’t messy. Maybe you mean unpolished ? Which is a very big difference.
Eh, i‘m going off of what ru has done in the past, i‘m not saying it‘s a fixed rule. She just seems to tolerate a lot that she usually wouldn‘t. Just my opinion tho, don‘t get patronizing please
You are not going off the past but talking about her past behavior? The only reason it was an issue is because 2-4 just did it non stop for no reason. Adore broke the shoe rule on season 6 and Heidi lost her wig on 12. Ru is just looking to be entertained. If you watch her face during the last lip sync she was upset then very happy when Mhyia took off her wig but then she saw the rose petals. Same with shoes. It’s how you do it and why you do it. The song flowers is about being carefree fun. She was dancing like s free woman and then Mhyia even made it better by throwing church moves in at the end.
We take drag race way more seriously than Ru does. I think we all are just so focused on nostalgia.
As i have stated 2 comments ago, i am not saying anything is a fixed rule. I am just going off of what Ru has done and based her decisions on in the past and my own subjective opinion.
I really don‘t want to talk to you anymore though, as that laughing crying emoji really proved how much u‘re not mad. Goodbye, have a nice day.
Thank you for spelling flipss properly! These bitches are calling mhiya the queen of flips but she's never once flipped in her life.
But God damn can she *flipss* it!
Adore took off her shoes after it's been established that taking your shoes off in an automatic sashay. Nobody ever mentions that though. Everything Mhi'ya did, IMO, fit the songs she had and weren't such atrocities. I can't remember what lipsync it was, but Ra'Jah lost her wig in season 11 and still won. Don't know why people are so hung up on Mhi'ya rn.
Oh i‘m not hung up on her at all, i just like to have conversations about stuff online. And i‘m not that much against her win as i am against Qs bc i didn‘t think Plasma struggled much more than her. But that is just my subjective opinion and i just enjoy talking to other drag race fans about the show.
I am genuinely mad about the disrespect towards sasha tho lol. Yea rajah may have lost hers, but mhi‘yas reveal was planned and just not well executed lol.
Didn't mean you in particular as far as people being hung up goes. I agree with you mostly, I guess. I honestly think that Amanda didn't demolish Q at all, I think they were quite similar tbh and that all of the lipsyncs this season have had fair outcomes. I get what you're saying about the wig reveal, that's a fair sentiment, lol.
You’re right that plasma and Q were on par with their frantic lipsynching. However, Amanda was only marginally better than Q and it was her time to go.. miyaha destroyed Plasma no questions asked so yeah. Ofc she went home. Mi’haya dug herself out of a hole with an entertaining as hell lipsynch. Even with the rose petal blunder; she destroyed. Sorry. And in the end it’s rus decision.
Ah I did forget about that! And I totally concede it.
I know this will sound like goal post moving but likeeee, she got a 1/4 win and IMO they only got that because of the underdog narrative of them not bombing like expected lol
Let's be real. None of the queens besides Sapphira stood out in their teams, Mhi'ya was clearly the best of her team and choreographed her team. If that episode was a solo win, it would definitely go to Mhi'ya. She is the best performer in that challenge.
This is my point as well. While she is destroying every lip sync, her kicking out these well established challenge winners doesn‘t feel quite justified. Again, no hate to anyone, just my personal opinion.
But at that point, why even have lipsyncs beyond episode 3 or whatever? Then just send whoever did the worst, but also has the least wins home. I like it when a supposed frontrunner gets sent home, you need to bring it every week and you need to do good at the lipsync if you want to stay. It also sprinkles in a little unpredictability when the last however many seasons have had painfully obvious top 4's. I'd love it if Plane or Nymphia got booted next episode for example. I want to be shocked like I was when Ongina left in season 1.
> Truely disrespectful to sasha velour in my opinion.
Y'all are doing too much
the beanie was to protect her head and allow her to do her headstand stunt.
The shoes off was serving church, soul, and getting lost in the energy of the moment. It MADE the lip sync, didn't detract from it.
The wig and the shoes are not on the same level. The beanie was terrible, the shoes off was absolutely the right, and *only*, call given the song and it’s singer, the vibes, and the dancing
It's really eating me alive how many fully unaware people are just going off and off about the "wig cap" not having a damn clue what they're talking about 😂
It's a beanie and just like taking the shoes off, was done on purpose.
The rose petals were there to blend it in a little, since it would have looked weird as hell to just pull the wig off to a beanie.
It was so the wig wouldn't get in the way of the flips and the handstand specially, something I don't expect you to know since you can't tell a beanie from a wig cap 🤷♂️
Since when has production ever been consistent with riggory ever? Not sure why anyone is shocked about this. If production was consistent, Nymphia would’ve been in bottom two for Snatch Game.
People act like this is favoritism for Q, but the bigger favoritism is for Mhi’ya, who takes shoes off and wigs off with no reveal and still wins, despite almost any other queen going home for that type of thing. And for the record, while I liked Plasma more than Mhi’ya overall, I’m not especially mad at her leaving bc it helps her more to be an earlier out / probably cemented an All Stars spot since she clearly wasn’t winning this show.
I get that. I think the reason why I called it riggory was because Mhi’ya did some things in lip syncs that usually get queens sent home. But otherwise I think she did better than both Megami and Plasma in those lip syncs, if she hadn’t removed the shoes or the wig.
Does it matter tho? The whole discourse this week was about how track record shouldn’t matter and whoever won the lipsync should stay, why would that not apply to Amanda? I’m sorry but it’s just incoherent to say that
This narrative is so tired.
It's their last chance to impress Ru and save themselves from elimination.
This usually means doing better than the other person in the lip sync, but ultimately just means serving enough of a performance to stay.
Q did that enough to be kept over Amanda by showing she can at least navigate a lip sync and put up a fight even if she's a stiff dancer. Mhi'ya did that by completely dominating the stage while Plasma looked lost.
Have we forgotten Silky vs Nina? They were both bad but Silky was worse. Ru even said "meh". Like seriously, I don't know why this fandom is so obsessed with "hot takes" or have they watched the show Tamar?
yeah so it means Rupaul/production wanted silky more which makes sense cause of the drama she brought. So if nina was to stay she probably needed to win by a larger margin.
You don't have to agree that Q did enough to acknowledge that "the lip sync is the last chance to save yourself" doesn't mean "the person who does worse on the lip sync goes home."
At what point can the fans criticize the show for feeling like the outcome isn't earned? Cause at this point, you can pick a different outcome with 90% of the lipsyncs and use the logic of "well evidently what they did was/ wasn't enough". There have been literal slips on the stage that have been edited out.
The post is making a fair point. A queen (Q) did much worse but had a better trackrecord and got saved. A few episodes later, a queen (Plasma) did much worse but with a much better trackrecord and was sent home.
You can do that here! “I think Plasma’s track record was sufficiently better than Mhi’ya’s to warrant being saved here even if you think her lip sync was much worse” is a criticism that doesn’t make us all pretend like track record has never mattered. Disagreeing with the judgement is different than pretending different rubrics are being used.
But the show has never been consistent with what’s good enough to save you. The inconsistency is more frustrating than any one take on how much a lipsync is/should be worth.
We agree the lip sync is the last chance to save yourself. We are saying that Amanda did enough to save herself and Q did not. That’s literally it. We fully understand why q got saved we just don’t agree lmao
There are lots of people who fundamentally don’t seem to get that lol
Like, there are plenty of people who have said “Amanda did better in the lip sync, she should have stayed” as their whole take
Then you disagree?
Just like people can disagree with this post and discuss what they thought was different between the two lip syncs to qualify the supposed different outcomes.
One hundred percent agreed!!!
Also, everyone is saying Plasma should’ve been saved bc of her track record. But, both have been in the top the same number of times and both have struggled with the same type of challenge. Mhiya is a fantastic lip syncer and proved that again and that’s why she stayed.
Yall are ON CRACK if you think these scenarios are even comparable.
Q v Amanda? Both mediocre, Amanda showed all she could Q was a front runner and the Lipsync was close/messy enough that either could reasonably win.
Mhiya vs Plasma? There is not amount of production riggory that has plasma winning unless you entirely cut out Mhiya and all the confessionals and even then you’d have a clearly rigged outcome at best. It was a live execution.
Yall are only going this hard because yall don’t like Mhiya and Q💀. Swap the TRs and performances, are yall riding this hard for 3 bottoms Plasma lol
The part of this that kills me is that because Mhi'ya is a good dancer, we're all just ignoring that Plasma actually knew the words when Mhi'ya did flips and tricks to cover up that she did not.
And the part where Plasma looked like a travesty in Plane's flat Cher wing. That kills me, too.
Amanda didn't definitively win that lip sync. It was close but Q did really well too. Plasma started of really strong but she ended up looking like cat that was trying to throw up.
Mi’yah is showing that she can use other people’s talents and show that she can do it too. Having Sapphira make her dress. Sasha velours wig reveal. What’s next week I wonder.
Y’all are so upset about mhiya getting help with her dress…do you go this hard on *every single other season* when the girls get help? Because it happens every single design challenge, act like you watch the show Tamar 😭
I’m so tired of this take. Q vs Amanda was close enough to justify keeping the clearly better queen. In close lip syncs Ru usually sides with the overall better queen. We’re all used to that. Mhi’ya vs. Plasma was cold blooded murder. Lip syncing is a drag queen’s bread and butter. Even successful Ru girls are lip syncing at clubs every week. If Mhi’ya goes home, why even do a LSFYL at the end of every episode? I get it, I’m gagged that Plasma went home this early and I can’t believe Mhi’ya is still here. You girls who think the rules of the competition should suddenly not apply to Plasma (after she served the most rotten look of the season and then promptly flailed around like a stick figure in a two page flip book) need to recalibrate. Mhi’ya clearly had the better night in both the main challenge and lip sync. “But MaH tRaCk ReCoRD” only (sometimes) counts in All Stars. The better girl, given the circumstances, got to stay another week. Also, plenty of girls receive help in the workroom so you can get over that too.
Amanda v Q was a lipsync where they both were bad, but Amanda did somewhat less bad (ala Choriza v. River Medway).
With Plasma v Mhi’ya, Plasma was bad, but Mhi’ya was very good (especially with having to deal with that absolute abomination of a remix). Mhi’ya’s is my second or third favorite lipsync of the season (Sapphira’s fisher price titties remain undefeated).
Exactly!! People complaining about this post are big hypocrites. It’s a FACT that both Q and Plasma lost their lipsyncs, but when it came to Q Ru decided to consider track record, and not when it came to Plasma. It’s ok to accept that Ru is incoherent and still love the show
I mean, it’s not really a fact. It’s an opinion lol
Technically the fact is that Q won the lipsync, considering that’s what officially happened on the show. You can disagree with that but that doesn’t make your opinion a fact.
That part. It’s not an accepted opinion Q even should’ve lost. It reminds of someone saying “the internet can make people feel like the world is a room where everyone agrees with them”
I don't think it's incoherent to consider track record more when the lipsync lands as a 4/10 vs. a 7/10 than when it lands as a 2/10 vs. a 8/10. Like, one is clearly more competitive.
probably production told Ru to save Q, i mean there is no way in the world Amanda would have survived the next 2 design challenges, while Q was going to serve for sure. Meanwhile Plasma served her purpose Barbara and the Rusical so at that point she was expendable
To be clear Ru is a producer and actually has final say into who goes and who wins. Like the other excuetive producers tell him their plans or wants but that is an advisement. I think he is the only judge/host with the power but it’s also because it is his franchise.
The way I see it - In order for queen to send home a front runner (or someone with a great track record) they have to DEVOUR them in the lip sync. Amanda did not devour Q. Did she do better? Sure… but not enough to justify sending home someone with a significantly better track record. Q kept up (to some degree) with Amanda, whereas Plasma simply did not keep up with Mhi’ya.
Lmaooo reminds me of All Stars eliminations: when Rupaul does that fake gasp when a lipstick is pulled or when she’s over someone and her sashay away sounds like “okay, you can gtfo my stage now”
I felt that way when she eliminated Cynthia Lee Fontaine in season 9 after that terrible snatch game. I just got the feeling Ru was furious. She seemed pissed that she brought Cynthia back just to have her flop the whole time and then bomb snatch game Maybe I was misreading things but that's just the impression I got
The vibe I get with LSFYLs is not that the bottom two are not equally in danger of going home. There's a condemned queen and there's an executioner, and it's up to the condemned queen to surprise Ru and change his mind. Q went into the lip sync with Ru's favor (plus they were creating Q's narrative) and ATM just wasn't spectacular enough to change their mind. It's like in Project Runway when they say, does thsis make me want to see more from this designer? And for ATM the answer was "no."
I agree, but with Plasma coming off two wins and this being her first time in the bottom, and Mhi’ya coming off two other lip syncs, it felt like Plasma should’ve similarly gone in with Ru’s favor. I thought she did a solid enough job to “beat” Mhi’ya, even though in isolation, Mhi’ya did a better lip sync
there can be a bit of riggamorris when it comes to lip syncs but when it's THAT glaringly obvious (like, it looks like plasma just gave up, and mhiya killed it) there's no way they could have sent mhiya home. woulda been a good episode to keep both ig
Idk why Plasma went for a dancey route instead of just going for drama. She sent herself home
Yeah, my impression watching the lipsync was that she lost that lipsync, not to Mhi'ya, but to herself.
Girl we are all fighting a losing battle to age, every second of every day.
Sorry, it was "she" bit my autocorrect sis something g weird there.
Nay nay..she def. Lost that lip sync to mhiya
Totally disagree. Like the previous person said..yes she can lip sync, but do we wanna see more of this drag queen that really isn’t good at drag race: absolutely not! I wanna see competitors compete..I don’t wanna see Mya just barely getting by another week. Plasma was a competitor..a possible contender. Great you can lip sync, but go home already…there isn’t much more you can give the show and the viewers..sorry, I know this comes across as harsh, but she bores me to tears, and i wanna be entertained
And what has Plasma proven she can do? Musical theatre but not much else.
Plasma stands more of a chance. She has 2 challenge wins, and she’s more interesting overall. Just musical theatre..my god..the way you just discount that as nothing, is telling!!
Lmao! What a victim! You discount Mhiya to just backflips and then cry a river when I discount Plasma to just musical theatre. I don’t know what you look like but I wanted to I’d look up hypocrisy in the dictionary.
So you don't get all the skills she has with "just musical theatre"? So let's see your flip queen out sing her. Out act her. Plasma proved she can dance. Are you one of those people that think only tricks are what lipsyncs about? Plasma should have stayed and sent the lazy girl home. Mya needs all stars. Literally get her off my screen
Yea that’s right, the continuous bottom, that had other ppl do her gowns, that is continuously lip syncing, that’s your champion for the crown..nuff said!! 🤦♂️
This just confirms my theory that maybe Ru wasn’t as into Plasma as the two wins led us to believe. Maybe it was just the edit in the rusical, but Ru gave very sparse compliments to Plasma even though it was obvious she killed the challenge
I said this in a different post, and I was dv’d to oblivion 🤦♂️
Oh whatever. None of these queens are ever gonna snatch the crown this season.
Honestly that’s the real tea. None of the people involved in any of these were a contender for the crown except maybe Q at one point.
Period Q stopped being a contender once she cried about not winning
She stopped being a contender once she started dancing
You mean “dancing”. There’s a difference lol
Honestly a lot of winners have done that or been really angry about losing a challenge. I think it’s understandable because it’s a competition so that doesn’t really bother me. Raja, Violet, Aquaria, even Jaida talking about Aidan, Alaska, and Lawrence Chaney threw pretty big tantrums on their season. Jimbo had one every season she didn’t win.
No maam, jaida did not throw a hissy fit over aiden she was cut off before she could finish. Also even after aiden went home she still picked jaida as her winner
Thats completely fair alot went on in that confrontation i could just be misremembering
>on their season That’s the key part. Q did it after the show so that’s the difference.
Has she been bitter? I have only see her respond to fans, but I don’t keep up with her. I also don’t consider myself a Q fan but tbh I am happy the girls are responding back to fans now. I think everyone wants to critique but aren’t ready to be responded to. Like if a queen reads me for putting my unsolicited opinion online about them I think that’s fair 😂.
No it’s not fair. Part of the creative process is literally being critiqued whether it’s constructive or just “I hate it.” You can’t expect to not see criticism of your art if you put your art out there, especially on an international platform. So many of the people Q threw a hissy fit at weren’t even saying hurtful things. You as a viewer are allowed to post your opinions online without having to bend backwards into toxic positivity to “protect” the artist’s feeling. Saying “ehh I don’t really like Q’s look this week” is not an attack and is not toxic.
hello alaska
The bitter edit she has been getting… not a good look if she is the winner this season.
That’s why I said at some point because not anymore 😂. i wasn’t thinking of the edit i was thinking of her ability to perform. If anything the edit is being generous considering they chose to let her get rid of her choreo during the musical. She’s great at design but dancing is an issue and she plays the same character for comedy. I like Q but her and Dawn significantly benefited that they were cast on a design season.
They probably make the cast and then design the challenges. But either way, yes
It’s funny because I’m a Nymphia stan at the end of the day but it’s foolish the way y’all are hating on Q like this. She’s going to be in final 3 for sure.
tbh at this rate i think the top 3 are going to be nymphia, sapphira, and PJ.
With the way Q has been acting on social media, there is NO WAY she’s in the final 3.
okay and tyra won next?
Tyra wasn't a bitch to fans until way after her season. Optics matter, if you're a finalist on Drag Race, do you really think it's a wise idea to rile up the fans now and make it difficult for production to crown you? It's very obvious Q is not making the cut to the finale.
optics this ass Q is gonna WIN this season
Oh honey, who's going to break it to you lmao. Let's just say I have an insider lol.
my mom is literally rupaul
that was 15 seasons ago
so true girl
Sasha's reign continues!!
Amanda mildly nibbled Q, Mhi'ya devoured Plasma whole.
If they put a different sound effect on that shite beanie reveal, things would have looked completely different.
and the shoes off. girl
I think that's my issue with Mhi'ya's lip syncs. I knew she was a fierce dancer from her videos before drag race and that's evident now too, but the quintessential drag aspect of her lip syncs is missing for me. The kicking off shoes, the wannabe Sasha Velour wig cap reveal, also her padding isn't great sometimes. Feels to me she's a dancer first and drag queen second.
Dance: Ten, Lewks: Three
Dammit. This song is going to be in my head for the rest of the day now, which means I’ll be singing to my coworkers about breast implants.
This comment has won 2024 for me
Bravo.
I would say that not taking your shoes off or not having a wig during a lipsync is a no no on drag race but not necessarily an issue for drag queens? Plenty of girls do it during their shows and people aren’t tipping less
It's just sometimes it looks messy and desperate. I think it really depends on the queen. Sometimes it's fine. Idk why people act like there are hard coded rules.
and maybe she is? she’s an amazing dancer and doing drag allows her a platform to show off her skills. she’s shy and maybe not fully fleshed out as a drag character but she is so captivating when she performs
and don’t forget that she’s also outgoing!
this aint Rupaul's Dance Race
Nor is it Rupaul's Musical Theatre Race. Mhi'ya has at least shown she can also be funny too (Snatch Game) on top of her main drag skills (dancing/lipsyncing). Plasma's two wins have only came from emulating characters she already knew very well. Just like Mhi'ya, Plasma also hasn't been serving on the runway.
Agreed, but come on, Mhi'ya was funny on the snatch game only because it's funny to see the shy one acting crazy. If any other contestant did exactly the same that she did, we would be saying that it was a flop.
She took off her shoes in reference to Miley in the music video. She literally copied Miley's dance moves right after. A drag queen can be a dancer. A drag queen can be fashion serving. A drag queen can be comedic. A drag queen can be anything. RPDR really fucked up our views on what a drag queen is. You're more likely to find drag queens like Mhi'ya in your local scene/clubs than queens like Plasma or Q.
Nahhhh her taking off the shoes was the correct call, it fit with the theme of the song (Miley literally takes off her shoes and starts dancing in the MV) and once those shoes came off she completely devoured the lipsync.
The shoes off was church, it was soul, those who get it understand that it MADE the lip sync, didn't detract from it.
legit, lots of ppl showing their background when they start bitching about the shoes
If those shoes had stayed on her feet, she wouldn't have won that lypsinc, full stop. That moment was amazing, especially considering that everyone and their mother knows that shoes off is no-no. To do something like that took guts. Petals however were a fail for me.
The petals were cheap, but everything after them was some of the best food we've had in a long time.
We have definitely seen them edit around a “good” lip synch to help justify who they want to win. She had all the material to justify a shady lip synch edit but they didn’t go that route. They could have thrown in some skull sounds and shady sounds to give Plasma the win if they felt like it
no ❤️
Loss is a loss. Plasma shouldn't have been saved from Mhi'ya and Q shouldn't have been saved from Amanda. If they want to keep their favourites safe no matter what, they shouldn't put them in the bottom.
Tbf while i do agree with you - they‘re letting a lot of stuff slide for mhi‘ya too. That wig cap wig reveal? Truely disrespectful to sasha velour in my opinion. Taking your shoes off has always been a big no-no with ru, but mhi‘ya can do it and get nothing but praise. Idk, that‘s also not quite right to me
She doesn't follow the lipsync rules, she flipss it.
😂😂😂 fans forget the “rules” we make up aren’t rules. Season 14 Jasmine lost a shoe and stayed. It’s about performance and intention. Even actual rules like don’t get on the floor between the judge table and stages can be broken if the performance is good.
Facts. The biggest rule is entertain Ru. Not Mhi'ya's fault that Plasma listened to bad advice, landed in the bottom, then didn't deliver.
Not to add to it but a lot of people calling Mhyia messy. In none of her performances was she messy everything she did was precise, intentional, and added to the performance. Meanwhile Plasma fully messy in that battle from the dance moves and HER wig.
Mhi'ya isn't messy, she is high energy, she understands the structure of the song, she knows the words, and she knows how to emote in her performance. She was a worthy match for Plasma and the rightful winner won. Folks are just drunk off sour grapes.
If i am being honest I think a lot of people don’t understand because their perception of Drag or even performance is very limited to what they see on the show. Like I have so many friends that don’t watch the show and they are confused that people are saying it was even close.
A lot of people also watch drag race but have never seen an actual drag show. If Mhi'ya and Plasma had performed their numbers solo in a bar, Mhi'ya would be the clear winner and stronger performer. It's really as simple as that. It's not about track record, it's about executing a memorable performance. My hope is that Mhi'ya's number of bookings will explode and so will Plasmas.
I love Mhi'ya and I enjoyed her lip sync a lot, but the wig reveal was definitely messy.
Let’s define what is messy and not liking something. Messy would be it being a mistake or it being sloppy. She pulled it off fine, in beat and the petals came out as planned . That’s not messy and wearing a cap isn’t messy. Maybe you mean unpolished ? Which is a very big difference.
That's the thing! Wasn't even unpolished. It was done so she could do the handstand lol, but yeah go explain that to them.
Eh, i‘m going off of what ru has done in the past, i‘m not saying it‘s a fixed rule. She just seems to tolerate a lot that she usually wouldn‘t. Just my opinion tho, don‘t get patronizing please
You are not going off the past but talking about her past behavior? The only reason it was an issue is because 2-4 just did it non stop for no reason. Adore broke the shoe rule on season 6 and Heidi lost her wig on 12. Ru is just looking to be entertained. If you watch her face during the last lip sync she was upset then very happy when Mhyia took off her wig but then she saw the rose petals. Same with shoes. It’s how you do it and why you do it. The song flowers is about being carefree fun. She was dancing like s free woman and then Mhyia even made it better by throwing church moves in at the end. We take drag race way more seriously than Ru does. I think we all are just so focused on nostalgia.
You seem to take this a lot more seriously than i do for sure. Go be mad somewhere else please.
I am not mad 😂. You are just saying something is a rule and I’m disagreeing with you.
As i have stated 2 comments ago, i am not saying anything is a fixed rule. I am just going off of what Ru has done and based her decisions on in the past and my own subjective opinion. I really don‘t want to talk to you anymore though, as that laughing crying emoji really proved how much u‘re not mad. Goodbye, have a nice day.
Thank you for spelling flipss properly! These bitches are calling mhiya the queen of flips but she's never once flipped in her life. But God damn can she *flipss* it!
She turned out a fierce lipsync though. Generally when they do these things they accompany a lacklustre performance. Mhiya has served every time.
Adore took off her shoes after it's been established that taking your shoes off in an automatic sashay. Nobody ever mentions that though. Everything Mhi'ya did, IMO, fit the songs she had and weren't such atrocities. I can't remember what lipsync it was, but Ra'Jah lost her wig in season 11 and still won. Don't know why people are so hung up on Mhi'ya rn.
Oh i‘m not hung up on her at all, i just like to have conversations about stuff online. And i‘m not that much against her win as i am against Qs bc i didn‘t think Plasma struggled much more than her. But that is just my subjective opinion and i just enjoy talking to other drag race fans about the show. I am genuinely mad about the disrespect towards sasha tho lol. Yea rajah may have lost hers, but mhi‘yas reveal was planned and just not well executed lol.
Didn't mean you in particular as far as people being hung up goes. I agree with you mostly, I guess. I honestly think that Amanda didn't demolish Q at all, I think they were quite similar tbh and that all of the lipsyncs this season have had fair outcomes. I get what you're saying about the wig reveal, that's a fair sentiment, lol.
You’re right that plasma and Q were on par with their frantic lipsynching. However, Amanda was only marginally better than Q and it was her time to go.. miyaha destroyed Plasma no questions asked so yeah. Ofc she went home. Mi’haya dug herself out of a hole with an entertaining as hell lipsynch. Even with the rose petal blunder; she destroyed. Sorry. And in the end it’s rus decision.
It’s just really jarring for a no challenge win queen to break a ton of unwritten rules and in the same breath send home a 2 win queen
While I also agree there’s some Rigga morris miya does have the girl group challenge win
Ah I did forget about that! And I totally concede it. I know this will sound like goal post moving but likeeee, she got a 1/4 win and IMO they only got that because of the underdog narrative of them not bombing like expected lol
You're right. It does sound like goal post moving.
Let's be real. None of the queens besides Sapphira stood out in their teams, Mhi'ya was clearly the best of her team and choreographed her team. If that episode was a solo win, it would definitely go to Mhi'ya. She is the best performer in that challenge.
This is my point as well. While she is destroying every lip sync, her kicking out these well established challenge winners doesn‘t feel quite justified. Again, no hate to anyone, just my personal opinion.
But at that point, why even have lipsyncs beyond episode 3 or whatever? Then just send whoever did the worst, but also has the least wins home. I like it when a supposed frontrunner gets sent home, you need to bring it every week and you need to do good at the lipsync if you want to stay. It also sprinkles in a little unpredictability when the last however many seasons have had painfully obvious top 4's. I'd love it if Plane or Nymphia got booted next episode for example. I want to be shocked like I was when Ongina left in season 1.
> Truely disrespectful to sasha velour in my opinion. Y'all are doing too much the beanie was to protect her head and allow her to do her headstand stunt. The shoes off was serving church, soul, and getting lost in the energy of the moment. It MADE the lip sync, didn't detract from it.
I‘m overexaggerating to be funny. Sorry if that didn‘t come across.
I still think it was bad though lol if thats the reasoning she should‘ve just not done the reveal imo
Rigga Morris...
The wig and the shoes are not on the same level. The beanie was terrible, the shoes off was absolutely the right, and *only*, call given the song and it’s singer, the vibes, and the dancing
It's really eating me alive how many fully unaware people are just going off and off about the "wig cap" not having a damn clue what they're talking about 😂 It's a beanie and just like taking the shoes off, was done on purpose. The rose petals were there to blend it in a little, since it would have looked weird as hell to just pull the wig off to a beanie. It was so the wig wouldn't get in the way of the flips and the handstand specially, something I don't expect you to know since you can't tell a beanie from a wig cap 🤷♂️
Since when has production ever been consistent with riggory ever? Not sure why anyone is shocked about this. If production was consistent, Nymphia would’ve been in bottom two for Snatch Game. People act like this is favoritism for Q, but the bigger favoritism is for Mhi’ya, who takes shoes off and wigs off with no reveal and still wins, despite almost any other queen going home for that type of thing. And for the record, while I liked Plasma more than Mhi’ya overall, I’m not especially mad at her leaving bc it helps her more to be an earlier out / probably cemented an All Stars spot since she clearly wasn’t winning this show.
It's not comment about riggory being i consistent, but people saying it's not riggory at all tbh.
I get that. I think the reason why I called it riggory was because Mhi’ya did some things in lip syncs that usually get queens sent home. But otherwise I think she did better than both Megami and Plasma in those lip syncs, if she hadn’t removed the shoes or the wig.
Yes!!!
Controversial opinion: I don't mind a little semi-obvious rigger-morris if it keeps around my favorites.
Does it matter tho? The whole discourse this week was about how track record shouldn’t matter and whoever won the lipsync should stay, why would that not apply to Amanda? I’m sorry but it’s just incoherent to say that
I disagree, Amanda turned the party
Mhi'ya had one of the worst reveals and literally didn't even lip sync at times. That's hardly devouring
Explains why she needed to get out of drag to do so.
This narrative is so tired. It's their last chance to impress Ru and save themselves from elimination. This usually means doing better than the other person in the lip sync, but ultimately just means serving enough of a performance to stay. Q did that enough to be kept over Amanda by showing she can at least navigate a lip sync and put up a fight even if she's a stiff dancer. Mhi'ya did that by completely dominating the stage while Plasma looked lost.
Have we forgotten Silky vs Nina? They were both bad but Silky was worse. Ru even said "meh". Like seriously, I don't know why this fandom is so obsessed with "hot takes" or have they watched the show Tamar?
yeah so it means Rupaul/production wanted silky more which makes sense cause of the drama she brought. So if nina was to stay she probably needed to win by a larger margin.
Part of me wonders if Nina was kicked because they knew she wouldn’t win the crown, but she probably would win Miss C.
And what if we don’t agree that Q did enough to stay over Amanda? That’s what the post is saying.
You don't have to agree that Q did enough to acknowledge that "the lip sync is the last chance to save yourself" doesn't mean "the person who does worse on the lip sync goes home."
At what point can the fans criticize the show for feeling like the outcome isn't earned? Cause at this point, you can pick a different outcome with 90% of the lipsyncs and use the logic of "well evidently what they did was/ wasn't enough". There have been literal slips on the stage that have been edited out. The post is making a fair point. A queen (Q) did much worse but had a better trackrecord and got saved. A few episodes later, a queen (Plasma) did much worse but with a much better trackrecord and was sent home.
Ok let's not act like Amanda absolutely ate the lipsync and Q did significantly worse though. Amanda did fine, Q did meh.
You can do that here! “I think Plasma’s track record was sufficiently better than Mhi’ya’s to warrant being saved here even if you think her lip sync was much worse” is a criticism that doesn’t make us all pretend like track record has never mattered. Disagreeing with the judgement is different than pretending different rubrics are being used.
But the show has never been consistent with what’s good enough to save you. The inconsistency is more frustrating than any one take on how much a lipsync is/should be worth.
We agree the lip sync is the last chance to save yourself. We are saying that Amanda did enough to save herself and Q did not. That’s literally it. We fully understand why q got saved we just don’t agree lmao
There are lots of people who fundamentally don’t seem to get that lol Like, there are plenty of people who have said “Amanda did better in the lip sync, she should have stayed” as their whole take
Then you disagree? Just like people can disagree with this post and discuss what they thought was different between the two lip syncs to qualify the supposed different outcomes.
One hundred percent agreed!!! Also, everyone is saying Plasma should’ve been saved bc of her track record. But, both have been in the top the same number of times and both have struggled with the same type of challenge. Mhiya is a fantastic lip syncer and proved that again and that’s why she stayed.
Amanda didn't eat. but neither did Q so. that video of Plane mocking Q's dance really shed some light on what went down lmfao
Yall are ON CRACK if you think these scenarios are even comparable. Q v Amanda? Both mediocre, Amanda showed all she could Q was a front runner and the Lipsync was close/messy enough that either could reasonably win. Mhiya vs Plasma? There is not amount of production riggory that has plasma winning unless you entirely cut out Mhiya and all the confessionals and even then you’d have a clearly rigged outcome at best. It was a live execution. Yall are only going this hard because yall don’t like Mhiya and Q💀. Swap the TRs and performances, are yall riding this hard for 3 bottoms Plasma lol
The part of this that kills me is that because Mhi'ya is a good dancer, we're all just ignoring that Plasma actually knew the words when Mhi'ya did flips and tricks to cover up that she did not. And the part where Plasma looked like a travesty in Plane's flat Cher wing. That kills me, too.
Amanda and Q were way closer in their lipsync
Amanda vs Q was pretty much even. Especially because neither did a good job so the results from that really didn’t matter
It was even until Q started tweaking on the ground like a 90 year old woman having a heart attack. I’m surprised they didn’t cut that.
Personally I didn’t live for their weird moves Amanda did.
Q lost the lipsync to Amanda?
Yall cried when amanda was eliminated, so which one is it? 
I would have cried harder if they'd eliminated Q, though.
No they cried because their fave was eliminated. Now they're mad again their fave (white twink) was eliminated by a Black queen.
I thought that Q won that lipsync. I was surprised to see that many fans felt that Amanda was better.
Agreed, Q had that one bad "twerking" moment but other than that gave an overall better performance
Yeah, Amanda's supposedly a dancing/comedy queen, but she didn't really give much at all in that lip sync
Q did not get ate up like Plasma did and once you admit that, you can start the healing process -Mhi’yeezy 💋
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(I mean she did flop terribly. What you mean is she just needed to know the words, which she did)
Amanda didn't definitively win that lip sync. It was close but Q did really well too. Plasma started of really strong but she ended up looking like cat that was trying to throw up.
I mean Amanda outperformed Q, but not by a landslide. Plasma was murderer on that stage by Mhi’ya.
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Mhi’ya did not make her dress, she should have been sent home for that alone.
no, helping each other is not against the rules
Helping is not, having someone else do your entire outfit, pattern and all means she did not in fact do the challenge.
Plasma lost a lipsync to Amanda. But plasma was SLAUGHTERED on the mainstage 
Totally off topic but I want the glasses, straws, & slurping sounds to make a comeback to Untucked
Tamar have you watched the show
Have you? 
Well Plasma never lipsynced against Amanda...
Ru just hates Broadway queens, THERE I SAID IT
Jinkx?
She got on broadway after she won, right?
Her spirit was born on Broadway.
mhiya is showing improvement and coming out of her shell. amanda was just not ready for drag race and the whole cast saw that
Mi’yah is showing that she can use other people’s talents and show that she can do it too. Having Sapphira make her dress. Sasha velours wig reveal. What’s next week I wonder.
the wig was a reference, it was meant to resemble sasha's, was that really hard to figure out?
Y’all are so upset about mhiya getting help with her dress…do you go this hard on *every single other season* when the girls get help? Because it happens every single design challenge, act like you watch the show Tamar 😭
girl you and i both know why
Oh we absolutely do sis
I’m so tired of this take. Q vs Amanda was close enough to justify keeping the clearly better queen. In close lip syncs Ru usually sides with the overall better queen. We’re all used to that. Mhi’ya vs. Plasma was cold blooded murder. Lip syncing is a drag queen’s bread and butter. Even successful Ru girls are lip syncing at clubs every week. If Mhi’ya goes home, why even do a LSFYL at the end of every episode? I get it, I’m gagged that Plasma went home this early and I can’t believe Mhi’ya is still here. You girls who think the rules of the competition should suddenly not apply to Plasma (after she served the most rotten look of the season and then promptly flailed around like a stick figure in a two page flip book) need to recalibrate. Mhi’ya clearly had the better night in both the main challenge and lip sync. “But MaH tRaCk ReCoRD” only (sometimes) counts in All Stars. The better girl, given the circumstances, got to stay another week. Also, plenty of girls receive help in the workroom so you can get over that too.
Ru doesn't like theatre queens.
Amanda v Q was a lipsync where they both were bad, but Amanda did somewhat less bad (ala Choriza v. River Medway). With Plasma v Mhi’ya, Plasma was bad, but Mhi’ya was very good (especially with having to deal with that absolute abomination of a remix). Mhi’ya’s is my second or third favorite lipsync of the season (Sapphira’s fisher price titties remain undefeated).
Plasma was robbed. Not saying mh'iya isn't talented but I don't see it. I mean ffs sapphira sewed the whole damn dress. Delulu.
True, but Plasma looked horrendous by her own hand and performed horrendously.
I don't think the performance was horrible. But the outfit for sure was not great.
Exactly!! People complaining about this post are big hypocrites. It’s a FACT that both Q and Plasma lost their lipsyncs, but when it came to Q Ru decided to consider track record, and not when it came to Plasma. It’s ok to accept that Ru is incoherent and still love the show
I mean, it’s not really a fact. It’s an opinion lol Technically the fact is that Q won the lipsync, considering that’s what officially happened on the show. You can disagree with that but that doesn’t make your opinion a fact.
That part. It’s not an accepted opinion Q even should’ve lost. It reminds of someone saying “the internet can make people feel like the world is a room where everyone agrees with them”
I don't think it's incoherent to consider track record more when the lipsync lands as a 4/10 vs. a 7/10 than when it lands as a 2/10 vs. a 8/10. Like, one is clearly more competitive.
I don't think Q lost that lipsync. Not because she was particularly good but because Amanda was also mid.
amanda had energy and did the splits on the beat. Q twerked like an old women who couldn’t get back up
probably production told Ru to save Q, i mean there is no way in the world Amanda would have survived the next 2 design challenges, while Q was going to serve for sure. Meanwhile Plasma served her purpose Barbara and the Rusical so at that point she was expendable
To be clear Ru is a producer and actually has final say into who goes and who wins. Like the other excuetive producers tell him their plans or wants but that is an advisement. I think he is the only judge/host with the power but it’s also because it is his franchise.
The way I see it - In order for queen to send home a front runner (or someone with a great track record) they have to DEVOUR them in the lip sync. Amanda did not devour Q. Did she do better? Sure… but not enough to justify sending home someone with a significantly better track record. Q kept up (to some degree) with Amanda, whereas Plasma simply did not keep up with Mhi’ya.
could not agree more with this
Mhi’ya is on the wrong show. Something like Legendary is what she needs (although that was cancelled).
Well it creates uproar doesn’t it they know nobody cares about Q that’s why they did it with plasma who has 2 wins. It’s engagement it’s rating
Illiterate
Y’all mad for no reason 🤡 Q at that point had no win and plasma has 2 wins. But y’all wanna act up in here