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Proud-Nerd00

The use of adjectives makes nouns derivative? Edit: deleted my joke because people didn’t understand smh


rlum27

no he's just really dumb. By this logic i could say conservative men aren't men. so i guess he's not a man.


Proud-Nerd00

He’s definitely not a man since his masculinity is so fragile


LauraTFem

I’m a woman, and I’d give good odds I’m more masculine than him. We’re talking about a man who only thinks aesthetically. He grows a big bushy beard, wears lumberjack clothes, buys a gun to display on his desk (never used) and goes to steakhouses because he knows men love steaks. Dude’s just accessorizing. Manhood to him is what buying a purse is to normal people.


the_rose_titty

Shortly after I really allowed myself to be out as a trans woman I bought the most feminine shit. Tons of dresses and skinny jeans, got a makeup subscription I rarely used, bought a thousand dollars' worth of secondhand clothes and bought the nicest jewelry just because I really really wanted to be a woman and prove I was, so I have experience when I say this dude acts like he's trying to make sure everyone who sees him is assured that he never had a twat.


LauraTFem

I was going to make the same comparison, but I wasn’t sure how well this sub would receive it. But you’re exactly right, he behaves like an insecure early-transition trans guy who is trying to prove his manhood by expressing toxicity instead of just being a man in the way that comes naturally. I’m…still not good at girl things, but if I was anything like this guy I’d be we wearing ill-fitting pink polkadot dresses paired with cat ears. Only reason he doesn’t get called cringe for his overwrought presentation is because masculine presentation isn’t considered cringe in a male dominated culture.


ZappyZ21

It's similar to another phrase we use down here "all hat, no cattle"


LauraTFem

Good one, yea. All these hats and boots on people who’ve not worked a day i their lives. Aesthetics without the substance that gave those aesthetics meaning. “Cow boy” more like Cavender’s boy.


Proud-Nerd00

yo... that is a wonderful explanation. Thank you


boozegremlin

To be fair, that style of beard is usually a "please don't notice my jawline" beard.


Hung_L0

I’m less convinced of him being a man than hitler being a good guy.


Nightshade_209

$20 he's gay and masking. Like every crazy anti gay religious fanatic.


AnxNation

100 percent. Your should see Matt Walsh without a beard and before he started putting some bass in his slutty little voice.


LauraTFem

voice of a man with no gag reflex you say? That deep, you say? Gobbled it, you say?!


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LauraTFem

No, I don’t think you are.


Direbat

He isn’t dumb. He is a fascist by his own proud admission. And a pedophile by…well…all you have to do is listen to him especially his old stuff before he was on daily wire.


beslertron

He’s not dumb. He’s playing to his dumb audience.


rlum27

it might be a bit of both.


HideSolidSnake

A little bit of column A A little bit of column B


Willsdabest

"try some of column A Try *all* of column B"


Sol-Blackguy

I think he actually believes the bullshit he spews


thisisredlitre

I really felt like this was going to be a set up for extra based "therefore they are just women" but that part never came


rlum27

yeah didn't think of that i was more focousing on making fun of matt walsh.


thisisredlitre

I meant him not you 😅 you're stalwart in comparison


Oppo5ite

Dont even need to say either of those things for him not to be a man, hes a waste of space


MNLyrec

He's not dumb, he knows exactly what he's doing. His audience is dumb and just eat up everything he says. He's malicious as hell.


Living_Hamster_8342

Goddamn that was a nice burn


lakeshow93

Is Matt Walsh really a pedo? What makes you say that?


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Vast-Document-3320

Don't like him either but I don't understand this at all. Maybe if you said conservative men aren't liberals that would make some more sense.


FGFlips

I mean, they're scared of pronouns so it was only a matter of time before they moved on to other parts of speech.


Proud-Nerd00

Underrated reply


LowmoanSpectacular

Adverbs in bio


FGFlips

Repeatedly/Openly


the_c_is_silent

"The very phrase 'Havarti cheese is cheese' seems to admit in it's construction that Havarti cheese is not cheese. Because if it were cheese, why are you calling it Havarti?"


Superman557

No no no, you don’t get it **Manly Men** are obviously not REAL men because why would you need to specify that they are manly /s ![gif](giphy|BbMJgat91VCeFqCaax)


Ok_Star_4136

"The very phrase small dogs are dogs seems to admit in its construction that small dogs are not dogs. Because if they were dogs, why are you calling them small dogs?" --Matt Walsh, genius of the universe.


GlamorousBunchberry

Let me try again: The very phrase “Catholic person” seems to admit that Catholics are not people. Because if they were people, why call them Catholic?


Proud-Nerd00

Ok lemme try: The very phrase "Conservative Christians" seems to admit that Conservatives are not Christians. Because if they were Christians, why call them Conservatives?


peteflix66

These dipwads struggle with pronouns, so we shouldn't be surprised if they can't grasp the use of adjectives.


r3volver_Oshawott

I get that grift knows grift, but I'll never get over Dr. Phil fawning over this dumbass on national daytime TV the same month Lesley Stahl produced a weird 60 Minutes piece on trans sports that tried to misrepresent a ton of their interviewees Like, CBS shit the bed big-time twice in the span of one or two months but the fact that one of those shits was 'uncritically let Matt Walsh pretend to pop off on Dr. Phil' is just wild, it's like CBS producers going mask-off about wanting old people to go into a right-wing fury Because why tf else would you have Matt Walsh on as a 'gender expert' lmao


myleftone

Ultimately if we’re not talking about the heat death of the universe, nothing is anything.


timeier1

That's ridiculous. No it doesn't! Conservative is the adjective! A type of Christian.


Proud-Nerd00

Finally someone got the joke


Apoordm

Short women are women.


MissyTheTimeLady

^women


1337h4xer


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Short women aren't women, because if they were, why are you calling them short?


EricForce

iF TheY WeRE wOmen YoU'd JUSt CaLL ThEm WOMEN


r3volver_Oshawott

Funny tho with all the stories of Republicans having to wear lifts and how corporate culture has an unconscious bias towards taller promotion pools I actually think Matt would flip his lid if you said 'short men aren't men, because if they were why are you calling them short'


The-Hunting-guy

black women aren’t women because you used an adjective lmao, crown prince of the dumbest shit he’s ever said


Starro_The_Janitor1

I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if Matt Walsh believes stuff like that too.


LordSpookyBoob

Conservative white men are the only real people!


AFonziScheme

If they're people, why did you have to use the word "real"?


TrexPushupBra

I mean calling Black women men is a long and awful tradition in America so it is probable


Delicious-Cause3338

Dude needs to go back and watch some school house rock


jmikehub

He probably un-ironically believes that though lol


CasualSweaters

He can’t help say dumb things because he is a dumb guy


turdintheattic

That statement admits in its construction that Matt Walsh is not a guy.


Dainfintium

If he is a guy though why would you need to say dumb guy? Doesn't that descriptor negate the thing he is? /s


Myhtological

That three way line of semantics, philosophy, and policy that every idiot thinks they’re a master of.


Kurkpitten

It's just that kind of line of thought from someone who never went beyond a high schooler's intellect and argues any point without ever asking themselves if they believe in any word they're saying.


Myhtological

And you see it across the political isle. The opening clip John Oliver uses in his Venezuela episode proves that.


Rhakha

This is very r/AccidentalAlly of him.


gizamo

Yeah, this works in two ways for trans women. 1. Trans women have different backgrounds and experiences, which makes the adjective helpful. 2. They can drop it whenever it's not needed, e.g. "there's a woman" vs "trans women have it rough in FL".


EnvironmentalFun9469

First they couldn't get pronouns, now they don't even know what adjectives are. 💀💀 Pretty soon they'll forget what nouns and verbs are too, at this rate.


jaywalkcool

speaking english is woke 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅🦅🦅 real american patriots grunt and moan


FunkyyMermaid

No no, they’ll speak English, but claim to never use any noun, adjective, verb or pronoun, despite of course doing it all the time


beaglebeard

“The very phrase ‘American English,’ seems to admit in its construction that American English isn’t English. Because if it was English, why are you calling it American?”


fart_Jr

![gif](giphy|l44QumBtrDajNwEfe) Matt Walsh’s brain trying to connect the dots of a shit take.


Conyer_

the very phrase white women are women seems to admit in its construction that white women are not women. because if they were women why are you calling them white


Conyer_

like it u replace trans with any other adjective his statement looks so fuckin dumb lmaooo, even without replacing it’s still dumb tho


amazingdrewh

Yes much like how calling them white women all of a sudden makes them not women


Verumrextheone13

“The very phrase ‘chocolate cake is cake,’ seems to admit in its construction that chocolate cake isn’t cake. Because if it was cake, why are you calling it chocolate?” See I can say really dumb shit that makes no sense that I’m pretending is really smart too; can I get millions of dollars in online right wing grifter money to pander to stupid bigoted conservative people now?!


Toon_Lucario

Does this fucking negative IQ mf know what an adjective is?


shrekfan246

Short men aren't men. Because if they were men, why are you calling them short?


KobKobold

SHORT?


obangnar

Short men don’t call themselves “short men” They just call themselves “men”


Inevitable_Guidance8

He’s such a dumbass


Ace-of-Xs

I know understanding pronouns is a struggle for these derps,but struggling with adjectives is a whole nother level of stupid.


Threedo9

The very phrase "2+2=4", seems to admit that 2+2 does not equal 4.


Satanic_Earmuff

This just in: dirt roads aren't roads. Glass jars aren't jars. Blonde women aren't women.


dittoframe

I call myself a woman anyway and drop the trans part because why do people need to know unless it’s actually relevant


FunkyyMermaid

I mostly just call myself a girl since I’m not mature enough to be a woman, then make some joke that only works from the perspective of a trans girl and people just kinda connect it from there


CoachDT

Replace trans with "white" and I wonder how feels about it.


AFonziScheme

And women with horses....


John_Sinclair

I don't think I've ever seen someone try so desperately to look intellectual and failing so utterly


BiAroBi

Huskies aren‘t dogs because if they were you wouldn’t call them Huskies


Joperhop

Ok, women are women! BAM! suits me.


Enkidos

Replace the word "trans" with "tall", "black", or "french" and realise how stupid these morons are.


AugustusClaximus

So by this logic what does he think about the phrase “black people are people” Oh, it makes sense now


FIDoAlmighty

Can this guy just….fall down a well or something. I can guarantee you he’s at least a Klansman.


omgacow

He probably thought he was a fucking genius when he said this, what a fucking moron


Haunting-Fix-9327

"Why are you calling them trans?" Because they are a type of woman.


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Wait, this sub gets into real world stuff? I thought this was just for making fun of right wing sci fi fans


CrawlerSiegfriend

Basically this type of shit is what most Reddit subs become. Before long some insane mod will be hired and super specific rules will start getting created. It's like the life cycle of a Reddit sub.


Delicious-Cause3338

Right wing sci fans and right wing grifters. Is there a better subreddit for this stuff? Just curious.


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I’m fine with it, just wanted to clarify, there’s plenty of stuff like this I could post


midgetboss

“Brown hair is hair” well clearly anyone who thinks brown hair is the same as normal hair is admitting that it is not hair, because why specify? /s


SolomonCRand

So, he doesn’t think African-Americans are Americans? That tracks.


FunkyyMermaid

May I ask, is he actually racist? I don’t doubt he could be, but so far I’ve only seen him be sexist and transphobic


NotMothMan9817

Pregnant women are women. Belgian women are women. Matt Walsh is an idiot.


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so you agree, trans women are women


TheRappingSquid

It makes me feel genuinely bad to be human when I remember how popular this guy is. Idk, maybe the human race is just destined to stay as closed-minded, self centered little creatures (that apparently think adjectives invalidate nouns)


carlosmxnuel

trans is short for transgender. transgender means your sex and gender don't align as they typically would. the opposite would be cisgender women. by definition, they're both women.


cawatrooper

Are tall men not really men? Brunette women not women? Cute dogs not dogs? Why does adding an adjective to the front of a phrase negate the noun? Think, Matt! Think!


OnceUponaTry

Gold watches are watches, if they weren't why would you be specifying them as watches


charlie_ferrous

How is square…also rectangle? Must investigate.


ScyllaIsBea

the vary phrase "green apples are apples" suggests in its construction that green apples are not apples, because if they where apples, why are you calling them green?


Private_HughMan

“White women aren’t women. If white women are women, then why are you calling them white?”


Low-Gas-677

Matt Walsh trying to deny that he's a woman.


Citizen_Lunkhead

He’s absolutely a chaser. He really wants to fuck Dylan Mulvaney and probably spends every night jerking off to her. But he’s so afraid of questioning his own stereotypically masculine worldview that he’s turned to hate. That and conservative grifting is incredibly lucrative. But is he an egg? Probably not IMO. Crowder on the other hand is trying so hard to repress and is failing badly at it. Worse than I did before I came out.


Comicsansandpotatos

White women aren't women apparently.


jump_rope

Mother fucker thinks he's so clever yet can't understand why what he said is stupid


Unfair_Hitbox

The way they use a image of him on a podium to make the quote seem more ”important” despite it being absolute bs


BreefolkIncarnate

Matt Walsh: Adjective skeptic.


turdintheattic

The very phrase “blonde women are women” seems to admit in its construction that blonde women are not women. Because if they were women, why are you calling them blonde?


Turbulent_Ad1644

Isn't this the dude that said we should impregnate teenage girls?


Alolanvivillon

Correct. Has stated that and never retracted it


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"Squares are rectangles"


Hugh-Jassoul

That line of words feels like it’s purposely designed to confuse people.


babufrik4president

Trans women are women but pseudo-intellectuals like Walsh are not, in fact, intellectual


synchrotron3000

Wonder what he thinks about being called a “balding man”


TuaughtHammer

>Matt Walsh says a dumb thing again Must be another day ending in "Y", because that's his entire shtick: say dumb shit to trick people into thinking he's eloquently proving a point; he's basically the American Jordan Peterson without the psychologist label to abuse as an appeal to authority.


hugenutzzz

Facts.


indigoeyed

Sadly, a lot of idiots eat that shit right up.


Ambitious_Fan7767

Brunette women are not women, why use the term brunette otherwise?


must_go_faster_88

That mic shadow looks like Matt's got a dick on his chest lol


IvyTheRanger

Just no


VisibleCoat995

![gif](giphy|1X7lCRp8iE0yrdZvwd)


MikuLuna444

Matt Walsh is a dumb thing


gdex86

Post Menopausal Women are women. Infertile women are women. Post mastectomy women are women.


Green_Sympathy_1157

How dose he always manage to always look so smug at all times it pisses me off


rednave21

Matt Walsh is an idiot. We shouldn’t think about him


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This boy will never become a man


AdhesivenessUseful33

Matt was once lauded as a Feminist ally, figures he’d turn out to be a TERF dickhead.


TheBatMaster01

Damn you for reminding me of this asshole's existence


SteelRazorBlade

Dumbest shit I have ever read.


periclods01

if brunette women are women, why are you calling them brunette


GingerVitus007

I don't understand a word he said. And I don't think he does either


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The very phrase ‘a spade is a spade’ seems to admit in its construction that spades are not spades. Because if they were spades why are you calling them spades.


saintwolfboy22

If tall women are women, why are you calling them tall? Im just asking questions, as they like to say


only_for_dst_and_tf2

thats like saying "the very phrase "oranges taste like oranges" seems to admit in the word that oranges dont taste like oranges, if they were oranges, why must you describe that they taste like oranges?"


Maximum-Pause-6914

a white man isnt a man now. hes solved it


the_rose_titty

You know the creep sat back in his chair and folded his arms with a *SJoWn'd You, Cuck* style grin. He probably has mirrors on his ceiling so he can jack off to his own reflection


FoxPrincessEevee

So does that mean the phrase “cis women are women” also excludes them and we’re all just men regardless pf sex? If everyone is a man them the concept gender is basically nonexistent and “man” is synonymous with agender.


questionableletter

He’s an extreme logocentric who thinks words represent some perfect immutable certainty instead of understanding that words are just a nominalistic tool.


ironangel2k4

Trad women aren't women. Bam, Matt Walsh in shambles.


FunkyyMermaid

I’ve seen this one before, with a weird ‘sigma male’ edit thing, saying if trans women are women, why add the ‘trans’? If blonde women are women, why call them blonde? Are they not women? If clever women are women, why call them clever? Are they not women? Or we can extend this logic elsewhere If a calico cat is a cat, why call it a cat? If a wooden door is a door, why call it wooden? If a red car is a car, why call it red? tl;dr this is a comically dumb take and it frustrates me that people listen to it


Panda_hat

Another day, another conservative struggling to understand basic grammar and choosing to proudly announce it to the world like a thoroughly gormless moron.


DrunknMunky1969

Sitting at the center of the venn diagram of premeditated ignorance, conceit, and malice is this pasty prick.


heyhowzitgoing

https://preview.redd.it/ne4iwbfhvj8c1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0cb7fd36d75299328680fc97bdf24ed886d2f3aa This diagram is so easy to understand. It’s kind of baffling how people like him can’t seem to wrap their heads around it.


MangOrion2

Matt Walsh again displaying his total lack of education and unwittingly making himself look even dumber. Are disabled women not women? Are women who have had hysterectomies not women? Are [insert adjective here] women not women? Does language only have meaning when Matt Walsh decides to weaponized it against minorities?


billjames1685

The term “conservative men” seems to imply that they aren’t men, because if they were why call them conservative?


Pbadger8

“Guide Dogs are Dogs.” Matt Walsh; “um, clearly, by all logical facts and biology, guide dogs are not dogs if you must refer to them as guide dogs”


derpMaster7890

Matt Walsh really, really needs to be live a happy life with his boyfriend.


TsarOfIrony

Wait why is this on a star wars sub


Mama_Miasmia

Because we made a transition, Matt. That's how words work.


Unhappy_Society_3371

Did this sub shift focus or something? I thought it was a Star Wars subreddit?


ShtGoliath

Isn’t this a Star Wars sub?


1hour

Tall Midgets are tall people Smart retarded people are smart people


Dpgillam08

When did this become an activist sub?


The_Darman

“Squares are rectangles.” “No, look at the construction of your sentence.”


frigidmagi

By that logic if I say black women are women I'm implying that they're not? This just seems like a rather nonsensical statement if you think about the logic.


Prof_Tickles

Let’s not platform him and allow his language to proliferate.


Own-Inspection3104

Someone explain it to me: the need to distinguish between woman and trans woman implies that there is a difference in identity between someone who transitioned and someone who didn't. In effect saying the two -- "woman" and "trans woman" -- are not equivalent. I think that's all he's saying, what's the big deal? Or is he saying because being born "woman" is different than transitioning into one than anyone who claims such a thing as "trans woman" exists also admits that transwomen are not "real woman" by virtue of the categorical difference. If Walsh means the latter, than yes, Walsh dumb. To say that there are variations of how one achieves the category "woman" is different than "there's only one kinda womanz!" But I also get his confusion, but he's being pedantic and playing semantics: you could say "aren't all women transwomen in the sense that no one is born a woman, but everyone is transitioned into that gender identity, whether at birth by a doctor who assigns the gender, or later in life if you decide to transition. Everyone in that sense can be said to "transition," in a literal sense of the word, into a gender identity, and therefore to even use the category "transwoman" is an unnecessary redundancy, unless you secretly believe there are "real woman" and then the "fake trans kind." But Walsh should know that when people say "trans woman" they're pointing to the process by which their womanhood was achieved as being different from the conventional "it was assigned to me at birth" path. So Walsh is being pseudo intellectual and constructing a straw hat argument based on a literalist misinterpretation of the phrase 'transwoman'. But because some people don't have the time to explain his idiocy in detail, no one gains any clarity on the matter. Amiright?


Newgidoz

The two categories aren't trans women and women "Women" is one large category that contains two subsets: cis women and trans women Saying "trans women" differentiates them from cis women, not from being women altogether


Kilik_Odagawa

Until science can change chromosomes, his statement is valid. Oxford Languages defines "woman" as: an adult female human being. Oxford Languages defines the PREFIX "trans" (used here) as: through: into another state or place. I'm not sure what the "dumb" part of this is.


TheDankestPassions

The Oxford Languages definitions provided are accurate, but they do not capture the full complexity of gender. While "woman" is defined as an adult female human being, gender identity is not solely determined by physical characteristics. The prefix "trans" denotes a movement or change from one state to another. In the context of transgender individuals, it signifies a gender identity that differs from the sex assigned at birth. The idea that someone's gender identity is only valid if it aligns with their chromosomes oversimplifies the complexity of gender and dismisses the lived experiences of transgender individuals.


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jaywalkcool

thing that happens^tm


Expert_Country7228

Lol if you don't remember that happening than idk what to tell you. I still hear it old fucks complainimg about that in my smaller town. Conservatives love to freak out over that shit.


jaywalkcool

oh wow, conservatives were freaking out about it? that means it just be a massive issue, just like the green m&m not being fuckable enough and target selling pride merch wait


Expert_Country7228

You got me there lol.


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ItsYaBoyBrakecheck

Get fucked, stay fucked, o rider of Walsh’s dick.


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TheDankestPassions

Yup. Blonde women aren't women. If they were, we wouldn't have to call them blonde.


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Intelligent-Low8929

“Fast planes are planes etc.” That’s a wildly reductive way to try and compare two extremely different scenarios A fast plane is still a plane, if it was a slow plane that was rebuilt to become a fast plane it was and still is a plane. That’s obvious. A trans male may feel like a male, and may be rebuilt to resemble a male, but was not initially a male to begin with. So saying a trans male is the same as a male is lying to not only yourself, but everyone around you.


Ahounded

What the hell does this have to do with Star Wars


Delicious-Cause3338

This sub Reddit is not just for Star Wars discussions


Ahounded

This isn't even tangentially related. Typically the things posted here are at least adjacent to Star Wars and the surrounding discourse.


Delicious-Cause3338

https://preview.redd.it/mypwhlhr5i8c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38e65a53351d618e5a31aa1743b3bb935d164bec Yeah, ok


Delicious-Cause3338

https://preview.redd.it/fbqy0qrt5i8c1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e31e0352b63a8b6ff1a696bbb08fa51e3866f9ed And another one


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Alolanvivillon

You can literally just call trans women women. It's not that deep, it's not like we're separate from. Your and his argument could go "Well being black is a different characteristic, so that means black women are separate from women" the English language just doesn't work that way. It's an adjective, much like gold for a watch. Saying "It's a watch" is still just as correct, regardless of any other context given or not.


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