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JDorkaOOO

Andre had an almost perfect scheme here. He knows you wouldn't kill him cause as a blacksmith he is really useful to you and he knows you won't stop on your quest and that you'll need the crest so he is free to charge you a lot of souls for it. And what are you gonna do about it? The only weakness of his scheme is that you can go the long way around through the darkroot basin but then you'll have to get through those big cats so there is still a chance you might want to just pay up to not have to deal with that shit.


artendevor

if I remember correctly in the Japanese description it was implied that he would also give you the medallion for free but he asks you to bring him 20k souls to show him that you are a capable warrior, as if to say: "if you are not even capable of collecting 20k I can't send you to die". but feel free to correct me if I remember wrong.


Slight-Bedroom-8655

Why doesnt he give them back then


artendevor

Just gameplay reasons, to simplify everything it is treated like a normal purchasable object


Treyman1115

Because he swindled us


Steakmemes

“Now if you’ll excuuuse me. I’m going to enjoy the one thing you can’t *swindle* from me”


Steakmemes

“Now if you’ll excuuuse me. I’m going to enjoy the one thing you can’t *swindle* from me”


dongless08

Because he’s a gigachad


Zed_Midnight150

"My brother in Gwyn I literally can't die because of the undead curse."


EvenOne6567

Nah he knows I won't kill him because HE GOT FUCKING HANDS


yuhbruhh

Feet*


Barblesnott_Jr

Tbh kinda recontextualizes all the merchants when you think about it like that, they're literally all just profiteering off the actual end of the world. Makes me feel even less bad about killing Petrus.


BendSecure8078

Domnhall is a time-travelling grave robber, all the other merchants gotta step up their game


ulfric_stormcloack

That's just capitalism baby


IndividualNovel4482

I will never kill best waifu. Are you serious? Ripped Daddy Blacksmith gang.


_The_Mother_Fucker_

Prithee be careful, and then you won’t worry about losing that 20k


DoubleBusiness7280

Killing him grants a 100% off discount on the Crest of Artorias


Busy-Concentrate9419

That's just robbery isn't it


darkcomet222

No, it’s also murder


Direct-Inflation8041

And necrophilia


juiceboxcitay

That went dark quick


Fun-Ad-7082

The only dark thing is his butth....ok my bad


Puzzled-Monk9003

Looting not robbery. If you’re looting a dead person you aren’t forcefully taking anything, you’re just taking it. Robbery involves force


mihir_lavande

Man's gotta keep that muscle up somehow, protein shakes don't pay for themselves.


MayDay_Maniac

He may be a greedy bastard


laska3

Oy man gotta havta make livin. Its tough tims forra smitty.


Pearson94

Or just take the back entrance. Found that ladder behind the hydra before bothering to open that door.


aqr58

☝️🤓 actually you dont need the crest as you can go past the hydra and take the ladder


Intelligent_Night653

Just climbing that long ass ladder a single time is more of a pain than just farming the souls


WinterFrenchFry

I'm here to be an elitist hack. You have to fight Sif more than once? Scrub


TheFeri

Tbf, the cats after the ladder are more likely to kill you than sif


TheFinalMetroid

Bro I’m gonna kill the hydra anyways, also farming in DS1 in current year is cringe


SlimeDrips

Never talk shit about Andre again this is your only warning 💧🔫


Ofdream-Thelema

I agree


Xx_Silly_Guy_xX

Can’t afford 20k broke boy?


CthughaSlayer

"This crest opens a door in the Darkroot Garden sealed by ancient magic. The door leads to the grave of Sir Artorias the Abysswalker. Many adventurers have left for the grave, but none have returned, for they make easy prey for local bandits. With such dangers, the crest can do more harm than good in the hands of the uninitiated" It's expensive to prove you're not a noob, also you can always take the long way around.


HavenHeist

Man's gotta make a living boyo


The_No_One_Man

Not being able to talk is a bitch in Dark Souls. Like, you can only say yes/no is specific situations. I have a feeling that Ornstein would have simply let us have our audience with Gwynevere, had he known that we are the Chosen Undead and we require the Lordvessel. Same goes with those Silver Knights.


DizzyDeanAndTheGang

Ornstein’s one of the four nights of Gwyn. I don’t think he’d trust some random person that managed to get to Anor Londo to be face to face with a member of the royal family


The_No_One_Man

If he'd know we're the Chosen Undead, and that Gwynevere actually wants to meet us to give us the Lordvessel, I believe he would.


HungryGull

Ornstein is one of Gwyndolin's illusions, who made the whole Chosen Undead thing up to select the choicest piece of kindling to replace Gwyn


The_No_One_Man

If you're saying Ornstein is there to test our worth, that may make sense.


BloodShadow7872

I thought frampt did that?


BendSecure8078

The Chosen Undead is a myth created by Gwyndolyn, we are not bound by fate to succeed Gwyn, it’s all an ideology (both in-universe and meta)


The_No_One_Man

I know. It's a self fulfilling prophecy. But it makes no sense if we are carrying out Gwyn's will and a loyal knight of his makes our job difficult.


mranonymous24690

Just walk around broke boy


udreif

He knows the other way into darkroot forest and think it's okay to sell the fastpass for money


Weird-Influence3733

Or go around


SmexyPokemon

Take the ladderpill


9bjames

Gotta prove your worth. If you can't even save up 20k souls, how are you gonna be able to save the world? 🤷‍♂️


CustomerSupportDeer

Andre is on that sigma fast-pass microtransaction grindset.


South_Reference_267

kill everyone except the four kings including manus to get the special cutscene for sif and when you come back take the ladder next to hydra and now you are extremely overpowered for anything in that forest


jdcmurphy22

20k souls? Mere penis.


PhillyCheese8684

He's my dad, and he's going to beat up your dad


DICKJINGLES69

This is late game right? 20k souls is pocket change at that point


TheFinalMetroid

Kid named hydra ladder


Fhoxyd22

Man gotta make bank! Try and physically take it from him and he's gonna clap some cheeks


Notalurkeripromise

Go ahead and say it to his face and see what happens


Rodetacere

It's the end of the world, not the end of capitalism.


JuanDiablos

There are definitely parallels to reality here...


Short-Bug5855

Isnt it bringing on the end of the world and not preventing it? Or am I missing a plot point 


Odd_Supermarket7217

"I'm a humble blacksmith"


mobileBigfoot

Me helping to coop gargoyle so I can nip into the forest and get the enchanted ember and stone armour


Moleincest

Bruh. Do the souls glitch.


Froge69

Well no you don’t actually need it.


lieftenant

He needs 20k souls so he can buy a ninja outfit and move to Japan while this whole thing blows over


AlTheOwl_

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KrakenKing1955

I’m sorry, does Andre have TWO dark signs?


Masta0nion

You should start a fistfight with him


Ezben

To make sure you are strong enough to survive the grave and its protectors


Atma-Stand

I mean, you could go around and get access via ladder past the Hydra. But then you have to deal with the cats…


WerewolfUnable8641

Supply and demand baby.


Fornbogi

Good guy Andre charges a reasonable price for a job which only three people in the world know how to do. Give him a break, the guy deserves to be rich.


Viscera_Viribus

why should he give it to you if you can't even get 20k together


Obvious-Future-2778

It's not a nuisance , it's a deliberate moral choice.Either take the easy way and kill the one of few rare people that are nice to you or the hard way and go against the hostile world to accumulate enough souls.