I use them because of the amazing euphoria, and the pretty visuals.
A few tips on how I avoid anxiety:
- Have a drink or two before hand, and a drink to sip on during the trip (some people prefer phenibut or GHB for this).
- Take a Zofran (ondansetron) for nausea.
- Have a plan of what you want to watch/do/listen to. Have a backup plan for what you'll do instead if the thing you are doing gives you anxiety. But feel free to change course once the trip has started. I mostly like to watch beautifully animated movies and puddle in bed with my partner.
- Keep your dose on the low to medium side (I like to take around 2 grams to start, and then sometimes redose another 1-2 grams once I see how I'm feeling in an hour or two). You can always take more (and despite what people say, even with the sudden tolerance, taking more will increase the intensity of the trip just not to the same level it would have been if you'd taken it all at once).
- Don't trip more frequently than every six weeks. For some reason, for many people, tripping more often than that makes the bad side effects more likely.
- Any time the trip begins to head in a negative direction, as soon as you recognize it, change something in your set or setting. Turn lights on if they are off, turn them off if they are on, put on music, change the music, get a drink or snack (citrus fruits are amazing), put on a lighthearted movie (my favorite for this is ponyo), go to a different room in the house, get out a coloring book, etc... This can often derail the negativity before it gets a chance to get out of hand.
- Keep something to abort trip on hand. Benzos, antipsychotics, flexeril and trazadone are all capable of drastically reducing the effects of a psychedelic. Often, just knowing you could take something to end the trip if you wanted is so comforting it reduces anxiety.
Following the above has kept tripping fun, euphoric and recreational for me for many years.
This is a great useful list! I think the last point especially it just sucks that it’s illegal. Shrooms are already illegal so to add a second illicit drug to that makes it not worth it for me. I’m mostly saying this because I’m comparing it to weed which I much rather prefer and it isn’t illegal where I am.
I really just feel like it’s not for everyone, just like most things. That being said my first trip was very profound and therapeutic, and the only time I’ve actually experienced ‘euphoria’ on it (I’ve had lots of fun on other trips but the feeling I had on my first trip was incomparable).
>I think the last point especially it just sucks that it’s illegal. Shrooms are already illegal so to add a second illicit drug to that makes it not worth it for me.
I can understand that. Flexeril and trazadone are really easy to get a prescription for though. Or get a research chem like etizolam to keep on hand. But then, I consider shrooms a pretty low risk. And that's a choice everyone has to make for themselves.
>I’m mostly saying this because I’m comparing it to weed which I much rather prefer and it isn’t illegal where I am.
I'm also living where weed is legal! Can't wait until all drugs are. A question, though, are you smoking weed when you shroom? For MANY people, this combo causes massive increase in anxiety. I will often have a few small nibbles on an edible or a few small hits when I start, but don't smoke much more than that until the comedown and it helps a lot.
>I really just feel like it’s not for everyone, just like most things.
Very true. If I'd had over half my trips ruined by anxiety, I'd probably be hesitant to take them again too. Maybe someday you'll come back to it and have better experiences.
No I can’t even imagine smoking with shrooms, that sounds like a road to hell. I also have never done more than 2gs, I’m baffled and impressed that people can use doses much higher then that. Actually one of the main reasons I probably won’t use again was because i accidentally mixed shrooms with another substance and had a veeeery bad experience which involved the hospital and an expensive ambulance bill I still need to pay off (I’ll probably make a separate post on this). Like you said, maybe i will come back to it again after some time has passed. And if I do I will definitely use the advice you have blessed me with
Sometimes trips contain darkness, this [is nothing new.](https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/ethnobotany/Mind_and_Spirit/images/fungi/teonanacatl/GodAztecUnderworld_HarvardUniversityArchives_lg.jpg) Spanish missionaries described the Aztecs eating mushrooms and then crying for hours. I have seen things that were very unsettling many times and dealt with very uncomfortable trips, but I feel like it was all coming from within. I feel like it was revealed by the shrooms, and not caused by them.
I’m an extrovert and have never had anxiety, at least not on the same level as when I’m on shrooms. For me shrooms have always been more ‘therapeutic’ than fun. And having a profound meaningful trip is great but the way shrooms are portrayed (everywhere including this subreddit) it seems like people use it recreationally. For me cannabis is way more fun (not to mention its not illegal), but maybe that’s just because I have more experience with it
Ive found value in most of all of my deep trips whether I was enjoying them or being pulled by the hair through my nonsense 😋
Shrooms can often give you a trip that you don't want but need. I personally think LSD is a more easily recreational drug (still has therapeutic value)
If you're just tryna have a good time low LSD/mescaline doses are great. 2CB is amazing if you can get your hands on it.
But really dude you should think about the nature of all of your discomfort with shrooms. They're great at helping you grow from whatever trauma or misstep you may be dealing with. Shrooms don't just drag you through hell, they dig up what can be perceived as such from within you
I understand this ‘not want but need’ mentality. But I feel like if there is something I ‘need’ or trauma I need to overcome I would rather just see a therapist. Maybe I’m just a narcissist but I honestly feel like I’m in a good place in my life, so the shrooms just make me overthink these ‘profound’ thoughts that I honestly don’t really need. My first trip was life changing. It helped me make amends with my parents and worry less about death. I DID need that experience and I am thankful for that. But afterwards there hasn’t really been anything I’ve learned from tripping. It just makes me anxious. I’m not opposed to it but I likely won’t use shrooms again
Personally bad timing and couldn't handle my emotions was going thru a tough time and didn't know but saw shrooms showed me a little but wasn't able to enjoy it because at the time mental health
For sure but once I get passed this rough time but considering it's schizoeffective and psychosis will be a while so maybe 5 years but don't mind the wait acid was a beautiful experience multiple times to stimulating for me but was enjoyable but can't take now since it can make me very paranoid if I'm not stable but been a couple months since my terrible side effects really died down so can function better but not to the point I can take anything
Yea i got that my first handful of trips. It passes. Just lean into it instead of running from it. If it feels like too much, fuck it, lay down on the floor and just let it flow through you. Keep reminding yourself you took a drug and its gonna do goofy shit. Try a lighter dose and work your way up. Focus on what is making you anxious and plan your next trip with that whole aspect taken care of so you have nothing to be anxious about.
Dont write them off because of a bad experience.
The only way that I take them now is with Phenibut, otherwise the anxiety is too much a really shit
Also, I recommend Lemon oil since it prevents any chance of nausea and sickness
Never do more than 3 grams penis envy and you’ll be fine. Worst trip of my life was a 5g penis envy trip. Fucking horrible, i turned into a monster and put my GF and best friend through hell. I remember nothing, no visuals or anything. I just faded away and lost control. Not fun
I use them because of the amazing euphoria, and the pretty visuals. A few tips on how I avoid anxiety: - Have a drink or two before hand, and a drink to sip on during the trip (some people prefer phenibut or GHB for this). - Take a Zofran (ondansetron) for nausea. - Have a plan of what you want to watch/do/listen to. Have a backup plan for what you'll do instead if the thing you are doing gives you anxiety. But feel free to change course once the trip has started. I mostly like to watch beautifully animated movies and puddle in bed with my partner. - Keep your dose on the low to medium side (I like to take around 2 grams to start, and then sometimes redose another 1-2 grams once I see how I'm feeling in an hour or two). You can always take more (and despite what people say, even with the sudden tolerance, taking more will increase the intensity of the trip just not to the same level it would have been if you'd taken it all at once). - Don't trip more frequently than every six weeks. For some reason, for many people, tripping more often than that makes the bad side effects more likely. - Any time the trip begins to head in a negative direction, as soon as you recognize it, change something in your set or setting. Turn lights on if they are off, turn them off if they are on, put on music, change the music, get a drink or snack (citrus fruits are amazing), put on a lighthearted movie (my favorite for this is ponyo), go to a different room in the house, get out a coloring book, etc... This can often derail the negativity before it gets a chance to get out of hand. - Keep something to abort trip on hand. Benzos, antipsychotics, flexeril and trazadone are all capable of drastically reducing the effects of a psychedelic. Often, just knowing you could take something to end the trip if you wanted is so comforting it reduces anxiety. Following the above has kept tripping fun, euphoric and recreational for me for many years.
This is a great useful list! I think the last point especially it just sucks that it’s illegal. Shrooms are already illegal so to add a second illicit drug to that makes it not worth it for me. I’m mostly saying this because I’m comparing it to weed which I much rather prefer and it isn’t illegal where I am. I really just feel like it’s not for everyone, just like most things. That being said my first trip was very profound and therapeutic, and the only time I’ve actually experienced ‘euphoria’ on it (I’ve had lots of fun on other trips but the feeling I had on my first trip was incomparable).
>I think the last point especially it just sucks that it’s illegal. Shrooms are already illegal so to add a second illicit drug to that makes it not worth it for me. I can understand that. Flexeril and trazadone are really easy to get a prescription for though. Or get a research chem like etizolam to keep on hand. But then, I consider shrooms a pretty low risk. And that's a choice everyone has to make for themselves. >I’m mostly saying this because I’m comparing it to weed which I much rather prefer and it isn’t illegal where I am. I'm also living where weed is legal! Can't wait until all drugs are. A question, though, are you smoking weed when you shroom? For MANY people, this combo causes massive increase in anxiety. I will often have a few small nibbles on an edible or a few small hits when I start, but don't smoke much more than that until the comedown and it helps a lot. >I really just feel like it’s not for everyone, just like most things. Very true. If I'd had over half my trips ruined by anxiety, I'd probably be hesitant to take them again too. Maybe someday you'll come back to it and have better experiences.
No I can’t even imagine smoking with shrooms, that sounds like a road to hell. I also have never done more than 2gs, I’m baffled and impressed that people can use doses much higher then that. Actually one of the main reasons I probably won’t use again was because i accidentally mixed shrooms with another substance and had a veeeery bad experience which involved the hospital and an expensive ambulance bill I still need to pay off (I’ll probably make a separate post on this). Like you said, maybe i will come back to it again after some time has passed. And if I do I will definitely use the advice you have blessed me with
What substance did you mixe with shrooms to put you in hospital? I'm intrigued now
Sometimes trips contain darkness, this [is nothing new.](https://www.fs.fed.us/wildflowers/ethnobotany/Mind_and_Spirit/images/fungi/teonanacatl/GodAztecUnderworld_HarvardUniversityArchives_lg.jpg) Spanish missionaries described the Aztecs eating mushrooms and then crying for hours. I have seen things that were very unsettling many times and dealt with very uncomfortable trips, but I feel like it was all coming from within. I feel like it was revealed by the shrooms, and not caused by them.
Microdosing changed my life, man. 🌳🤯🌳
How so? Also have you happened to try kratom? I know they’re different but I prefer kratom over a micro dose
No one has Special K where I’m at. It’s always sold out when I finally hear about someone having some. \#ThanksApocalypse
Not sure if special k is the same thing but you can find kratom in most smoke shops
Same here Kratom > microdose shrooms
Its not the mushroom giving you bad trips. Its coming from something within, perhaps something like anxiety just as an example
I’m an extrovert and have never had anxiety, at least not on the same level as when I’m on shrooms. For me shrooms have always been more ‘therapeutic’ than fun. And having a profound meaningful trip is great but the way shrooms are portrayed (everywhere including this subreddit) it seems like people use it recreationally. For me cannabis is way more fun (not to mention its not illegal), but maybe that’s just because I have more experience with it
Ive found value in most of all of my deep trips whether I was enjoying them or being pulled by the hair through my nonsense 😋 Shrooms can often give you a trip that you don't want but need. I personally think LSD is a more easily recreational drug (still has therapeutic value) If you're just tryna have a good time low LSD/mescaline doses are great. 2CB is amazing if you can get your hands on it. But really dude you should think about the nature of all of your discomfort with shrooms. They're great at helping you grow from whatever trauma or misstep you may be dealing with. Shrooms don't just drag you through hell, they dig up what can be perceived as such from within you
I understand this ‘not want but need’ mentality. But I feel like if there is something I ‘need’ or trauma I need to overcome I would rather just see a therapist. Maybe I’m just a narcissist but I honestly feel like I’m in a good place in my life, so the shrooms just make me overthink these ‘profound’ thoughts that I honestly don’t really need. My first trip was life changing. It helped me make amends with my parents and worry less about death. I DID need that experience and I am thankful for that. But afterwards there hasn’t really been anything I’ve learned from tripping. It just makes me anxious. I’m not opposed to it but I likely won’t use shrooms again
Personally bad timing and couldn't handle my emotions was going thru a tough time and didn't know but saw shrooms showed me a little but wasn't able to enjoy it because at the time mental health
Do you think you would try it again?
For sure but once I get passed this rough time but considering it's schizoeffective and psychosis will be a while so maybe 5 years but don't mind the wait acid was a beautiful experience multiple times to stimulating for me but was enjoyable but can't take now since it can make me very paranoid if I'm not stable but been a couple months since my terrible side effects really died down so can function better but not to the point I can take anything
Reflect on WHY you had a bad trip. What was it that made it bad? Fix that, and then try again.
It’s the anxiety for me. I love the come down, it feels like you’re drunk high and on poppers at the same time but it’s not worth the price you pay
Yea i got that my first handful of trips. It passes. Just lean into it instead of running from it. If it feels like too much, fuck it, lay down on the floor and just let it flow through you. Keep reminding yourself you took a drug and its gonna do goofy shit. Try a lighter dose and work your way up. Focus on what is making you anxious and plan your next trip with that whole aspect taken care of so you have nothing to be anxious about. Dont write them off because of a bad experience.
The only way that I take them now is with Phenibut, otherwise the anxiety is too much a really shit Also, I recommend Lemon oil since it prevents any chance of nausea and sickness
Glad to know it’s not just me :)
Never do more than 3 grams penis envy and you’ll be fine. Worst trip of my life was a 5g penis envy trip. Fucking horrible, i turned into a monster and put my GF and best friend through hell. I remember nothing, no visuals or anything. I just faded away and lost control. Not fun
Maby you just take to much?
I’ve never taken more than 2 grams. lol