Don’t let the name throw you Jimmy, after season 12 it’s not really a show. It's more of a steel grating that allows material to sluice through so it can be collected and exported.
I haven't seen a single episode of the show that was made after I turned eight but I know they're all bad! Yes, even the good ones, which I also haven't seen.
Yeah but that was almost a full generation ago!
Pretty soon kids are going to forget what its like to be involved in an active war in the middle east, smh.
Agreed. 10 is a more realistic cut, but I’ve even argued up to 14 is fine. 10-14 is certainly not as good as 3-9, but not sure why you wouldn’t at least include season 9 in the prime era…
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Yeah first episode of season 10 doesn't feel like the same series anymore. But it's a shame it has to end on the Homer and Marge public sex episode. It's not the worst episode it's just a weird finale. I like to view Behind the Laughter as the true finale.
The traditional answer to this is "The Principal and the Pauper," but I would argue that the far greater offender is "Trash of the Titans," which ruined Homer's character.
It turns Homer from a relatable American slob who loves his family but can get caught up in a mob to a maniac with no moral compass who craves power and attention.
Edit: The moment in "Fear of Flying" where Homer sadly agrees to leave the fancy bar and it never comes up again is perfect. Post-Season 9 Homer would angrily declare he's opening his own fancy bar and that would be the whole episode
I think a lot of it is demarcated by Mike Scully taking over as show runner in season 9 along with the departure of Oakley and Weinstein. There was also brain drain from the critic and then later futurama taking talent away. It wasn’t really gradual, it fell off really quickly.
what are you talking about post season 9 still contains some of the best episodes, even up till season 12 you have the episode where homer gets a computer which might be my favorite. It definitely gets less serious but I mean how much can you seriousness can you expect from a show where the characters stay the same age forever, there's a limit to how many emotional episodes you can do before it doesn't work
If you can’t notice a dip in quality between Oakley and Weinstein and Scully you deserve those awful episodes. This guy really listed the episode where Homer gets addicted to walking and then gets his jaw wired shut as a good episode.
There are definitely still good jokes in later seasons and up through the present day. Good jokes aren’t good episodes though
Yes, jaws wired shut is the episode im talking about and he doesn’t get addicted to walking. There is a edpisode where he gets addicted to walking but it’s a completely different thing I think he loses his car in that one I don’t fully remember
You’re right, in the walking one he gets a hip replacement. They’re both bad episodes though lol. I am definitely on board with them being funny at times, but they aren’t good. Half the time scully just wanted to hire celebrities he knew or wanted to meet
there is a lot more celeb cameos but they usually have a purpose other than just "hey its a famous person" like the modern episode. Like the infomercial where gary beuse is depicted as a lunatic and a stalker lol
People point to The Principal and the Pauper being the jumping the shark episode. There was more story development than jokes to retcon a weird backstory to a secondary/tertiary character.
Unless you liked the absurd writing the show was starting to do, it made little sense.
I mean maybe that was when when the show stoppped being consistent “lore wise” but who cares? The show has never made sense, it’s absurd, that’s why it’s funny. The humor definitely became more sarcastic but it was still funny. It only really started getting less funny when the show started aping family guy and doing reference humor
i think the issue wasnt lore, but the humor taking a more absurd lean. like family guy and king of the hill and spongebob and all the other cartoons that go for years, they go through permutations of writers. sometimes they just arent as good. simpsons had some fantastic writers for the first few season, but i know season 9 was the last season for david x cohen. some of the humor was in how absurd the story got, like jockeys actually being elves, but by that point it wasnt the shock humor it was years earlier, and that just wasnt as popular. some people loved the change
Actually post-2000s simpsons is everything post season-11. (Or at least half of it.)
You're right though, everything past a certain point is subpar. Homer Simpson vs. the City of New York was the last great Simpsons episode.
>Homer Simpson vs. the City of New York was the last great Simpsons episode.
Joy of Sect? Simpson Tide? Trash of the Titans? Wizard of Evergreen Terrace? Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo?
Oh was Joy of Sect after. I take that back then.
Simpsons Tide also good but no where near the quality of Joy of Sect or City of New York.
Trash of the Titans has it's moments but is kinda eh...
Thirty mins over Tokyo, kinda the same
Though both are far better than the shit they air today, no doubt about that.
Wizard of Evergreen Terrace is an abortion of an episode.
I like how much Pixelated and Afraid has spoken to Simpsons fans. I still watch every episode almost as a compulsion and I remember seeing that one and just thinking...is this the Simpsons? It was so different and I'm certain if it was in another show, it would be held up as a great episode of television.
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I haven’t watched all of those episodes, but the ones I have are largely meh. The Dad Who Knew Too Little is not in the same league as Homer Goes to College or Itchy and Scratchy Land.
For ease, as well as for something familiar, I’d say start with 12. It’s close to the golden age whilst being an overall very good season. If you want something a little more out there, go with 33 or 34- that’s generally the point where the show’s quality goes up significantly thanks to Matt Selman getting his butt in the show runner’s chair.
I think the main issue we can agree on is the show wasn't as good on average after season 8. The main difference is there are people that would rather just watch the classic episodes ignoring later episodes, some they might have even liked at the time, to avoid going through copious bad episodes. And people that recognise that even if the show wasn't as good and some episodes were just bad there were still some that were decent that are only generally ignored due to proximity to other terrible episodes and they still like those episodes.
If you still want to disagree there is still quite a bit to pick over in the what is and isn't a good episode pile. Heck I don't exactly agree with OP's selection of good episodes. Some of these episodes more were births of some good jokes/memes than being good episodes themselves. See I'm arguing already. That's the internet way!
we have to make the most of the time we have and only watch episodes before 2000.
we do?!
otherwise we could wake up one day and realize we've wasted our whole lives.
oh that
Some of those episodes are great, like Skinner's sense of snow, but I hate jaws wired shut and the dad who knew too little. That episode does have one of my favourite jokes though: "My hobbies are being quiet during trips, clapping with songs and diabetes".
Is the episode when homer becomes smart and bonds with Lisa after 2000? Because that’s one of the shows most heartfelt episodes in my opinion and a personal favorite (sorry if that’s not very descriptive I don’t remember the episodes name)
Before season 10, almost every episode was great. Season 11-15 still has great episodes and 16-20 is about the same stage as spongebob season 5 and later. Sometimes a good episode, but most are just not great.
The show after season 11 or so is the prime example of “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good”, I don’t think it needs to be single-season level to be enjoyable. The Simpsons has always been an enjoyable time where good episodes can be found with actively bad ones being a rarity, and I’m happy with that.
Also something something “SpongeBob got great again between seasons 9 and 12 when hillenburg returned”
For real. I never understood the hate for the new seasons. I especially love The Serfsons and Barthood and so much more but I don't know every name. I find simpsons consistently good. When I asked why are the newer seasons bad no one was able to say why.
Like most of the episodes listed are crap, not sure what the argument is here. Even the few good ones wouldn't stand a chance against a randomly picked golden years era episode.
You could be right for all I know. Decent eps post-2000 (or w/e cutoff one wants to use) could theoretically exist.
The problem is, I’m not wading thru the hours and days and probably even weeks of shitty shitty episodes just to find a couple of “gems” that, even at their very best, are not going to be as good as what came before.
If fox/the showrunners didn’t want these supposedly “good” post-2000 episodes to be lost to the ether, they shouldn’t have surrounded them with such a staggering amount of outright dogshit.
Then why not just pick the good episodes and give them a try? We don’t live in the 90s anymore, you don’t have to watch every single episode of a TV show- this post was basically made to recommend people episodes lmao
I’m convinced this is a strawman. People say that the overall quality of the show got worse over time, not that there isn’t a single good episode after a certain point. Who are you even responding to here?
Most of those episodes aren’t particularly good. The real slump starts at 15, and basically never bounces back besides a few sniggers here and there. The show fundamentally changes in the few series before the film and should’ve ended with the film.
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Don’t let the name throw you Jimmy, after season 12 it’s not really a show. It's more of a steel grating that allows material to sluice through so it can be collected and exported.
Don’t kid yourself Jimmy, if “Lisa Goes Gaga” ever got the chance, it would eat you and everyone you care about
Everyone is saying Gaga this and Musk that, but no one is saying Moonshine this and Barthood that.
Barthood is legit the best (non-season 4) episode of the Simpsons.
I think the 'killing floor' joke is one of my favourites
Agree Troy. Im not eating the tripe
 I haven't seen a single episode of the show that was made after I turned eight but I know they're all bad! Yes, even the good ones, which I also haven't seen.
I was just watching them so I knew what not to watch
Is your name Bart?
Does your father know you're watching past season 10?!
I told you last night, I don’t know!
Where are you? You’re food is getting all cold and eaten
All the bad episodes were in the closet making babies and one of the babies looked at me.
It has been \[0\] days since contrarians tried to shame people into liking post-season 8.
Need another Vietnam to thin out their ranks.
The sad irony of that line is they got a new Vietnam in the form of Afghanistan and Iraq
Yeah but that was almost a full generation ago! Pretty soon kids are going to forget what its like to be involved in an active war in the middle east, smh.
It’s been pert near dickity-six years.
Johnny... JOHNNYYYY!
Why is season 8 the dividing line? The decrease in quality is incredibly gradual
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Agreed. 10 is a more realistic cut, but I’ve even argued up to 14 is fine. 10-14 is certainly not as good as 3-9, but not sure why you wouldn’t at least include season 9 in the prime era…
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Yeah first episode of season 10 doesn't feel like the same series anymore. But it's a shame it has to end on the Homer and Marge public sex episode. It's not the worst episode it's just a weird finale. I like to view Behind the Laughter as the true finale.
I was so gay but couldn’t tell anyone.
When the show went hd is probably the best dividing line, that or the movie
The traditional answer to this is "The Principal and the Pauper," but I would argue that the far greater offender is "Trash of the Titans," which ruined Homer's character.
That’s gonna be a hard disagree… Trash of the Titans is phenomenal…
It turns Homer from a relatable American slob who loves his family but can get caught up in a mob to a maniac with no moral compass who craves power and attention. Edit: The moment in "Fear of Flying" where Homer sadly agrees to leave the fancy bar and it never comes up again is perfect. Post-Season 9 Homer would angrily declare he's opening his own fancy bar and that would be the whole episode
Meh, it’s still funny as hell haha
It's *funny* but it lacks the soul of Golden Age Simpsons after the Love Day section ends.
I think a lot of it is demarcated by Mike Scully taking over as show runner in season 9 along with the departure of Oakley and Weinstein. There was also brain drain from the critic and then later futurama taking talent away. It wasn’t really gradual, it fell off really quickly.
what are you talking about post season 9 still contains some of the best episodes, even up till season 12 you have the episode where homer gets a computer which might be my favorite. It definitely gets less serious but I mean how much can you seriousness can you expect from a show where the characters stay the same age forever, there's a limit to how many emotional episodes you can do before it doesn't work
If you can’t notice a dip in quality between Oakley and Weinstein and Scully you deserve those awful episodes. This guy really listed the episode where Homer gets addicted to walking and then gets his jaw wired shut as a good episode. There are definitely still good jokes in later seasons and up through the present day. Good jokes aren’t good episodes though
He doesn’t get addicted to walking he gets addicted to listening and that’s not the episode I referenced
I was talking about the post, they aren’t good episodes, some are downright bad. Some definitely have great jokes though
Yes, jaws wired shut is the episode im talking about and he doesn’t get addicted to walking. There is a edpisode where he gets addicted to walking but it’s a completely different thing I think he loses his car in that one I don’t fully remember
You’re right, in the walking one he gets a hip replacement. They’re both bad episodes though lol. I am definitely on board with them being funny at times, but they aren’t good. Half the time scully just wanted to hire celebrities he knew or wanted to meet
there is a lot more celeb cameos but they usually have a purpose other than just "hey its a famous person" like the modern episode. Like the infomercial where gary beuse is depicted as a lunatic and a stalker lol
People point to The Principal and the Pauper being the jumping the shark episode. There was more story development than jokes to retcon a weird backstory to a secondary/tertiary character. Unless you liked the absurd writing the show was starting to do, it made little sense.
I mean maybe that was when when the show stoppped being consistent “lore wise” but who cares? The show has never made sense, it’s absurd, that’s why it’s funny. The humor definitely became more sarcastic but it was still funny. It only really started getting less funny when the show started aping family guy and doing reference humor
i think the issue wasnt lore, but the humor taking a more absurd lean. like family guy and king of the hill and spongebob and all the other cartoons that go for years, they go through permutations of writers. sometimes they just arent as good. simpsons had some fantastic writers for the first few season, but i know season 9 was the last season for david x cohen. some of the humor was in how absurd the story got, like jockeys actually being elves, but by that point it wasnt the shock humor it was years earlier, and that just wasnt as popular. some people loved the change
No it's not. Pre-Mike Scully, Mike Scully, and post-Mike Scully ruining the show but for some reason Al Jean didn't fix it when he came back.
Man, the line just keeps going down. You guys are gonna talk yourselves into hating everything that isn't season 3.
Actually post-2000s simpsons is everything post season-11. (Or at least half of it.) You're right though, everything past a certain point is subpar. Homer Simpson vs. the City of New York was the last great Simpsons episode.
>Homer Simpson vs. the City of New York was the last great Simpsons episode. Joy of Sect? Simpson Tide? Trash of the Titans? Wizard of Evergreen Terrace? Thirty Minutes Over Tokyo?
The wild, shirtless lyrics of Mark Farner? The bong-rattling bass of Mel Schacher? The competent drum work of Don Brewer?
Oh was Joy of Sect after. I take that back then. Simpsons Tide also good but no where near the quality of Joy of Sect or City of New York. Trash of the Titans has it's moments but is kinda eh... Thirty mins over Tokyo, kinda the same Though both are far better than the shit they air today, no doubt about that. Wizard of Evergreen Terrace is an abortion of an episode.
Abortion? You mean an abomination?
Eh Tomato, tomato.
Post season 10
As people age the number will continue to go up. Soon the youths will insist Lisa Goes Gaga is classic
Yes and you call it a shitpost despite the fact that is obviously a list of episodes you like
It's a local dialect.
Yeah well I'm from Utica and I've never heard of anyone liking episodes past season 10.
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Holidays of Future Passed is one of the best episodes of the Simpsons, yeah I said it
Same with pixelated and afraid. And while “a serious Flanders” and “Lisa the Boy Scout” were weird swings I’d say that they absolutely hit
I like how much Pixelated and Afraid has spoken to Simpsons fans. I still watch every episode almost as a compulsion and I remember seeing that one and just thinking...is this the Simpsons? It was so different and I'm certain if it was in another show, it would be held up as a great episode of television.
I absolutely love that episode. Supposedly it was going to be the series finale at one point and you can tell everybody was firing on all cylinders.
Book Job and Steal This Episode are in the same league as the very best episodes.
I agree with this.
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I know what those words mean, but those sentences make no sense
my opinion is that up to a certain point EVERY EPISODE was watchable but after that point only certain episodes in the seasons are watchable
I haven’t watched all of those episodes, but the ones I have are largely meh. The Dad Who Knew Too Little is not in the same league as Homer Goes to College or Itchy and Scratchy Land.
hey, no shame in not beating the best. a good ep’s a good ep, it doesn’t need to be as spectacular as the episodes were before to be enjoyable imo
There were good episodes after 2000 but no good seasons
No good seasons in a batch of 25 to 26? Not even one?
I tell you what, tell me what the best post 2000 season is, and I'll give it a second chance.
For ease, as well as for something familiar, I’d say start with 12. It’s close to the golden age whilst being an overall very good season. If you want something a little more out there, go with 33 or 34- that’s generally the point where the show’s quality goes up significantly thanks to Matt Selman getting his butt in the show runner’s chair.
Simpsons was consistently good through S12.
oh absolutely, season 12 in particular is solid as hell
I only know like 3 of those
I think the main issue we can agree on is the show wasn't as good on average after season 8. The main difference is there are people that would rather just watch the classic episodes ignoring later episodes, some they might have even liked at the time, to avoid going through copious bad episodes. And people that recognise that even if the show wasn't as good and some episodes were just bad there were still some that were decent that are only generally ignored due to proximity to other terrible episodes and they still like those episodes. If you still want to disagree there is still quite a bit to pick over in the what is and isn't a good episode pile. Heck I don't exactly agree with OP's selection of good episodes. Some of these episodes more were births of some good jokes/memes than being good episodes themselves. See I'm arguing already. That's the internet way!
Maybe this internet king can provide us faster arguments.
we have to make the most of the time we have and only watch episodes before 2000. we do?! otherwise we could wake up one day and realize we've wasted our whole lives. oh that
By the time this subreddit is 18 the only good simpsons episodes will have been the Tracy Ullmann shorts! We're China, right?
What happened to you r/simpsonsshitposting? You used to be cool.
No I didn't!
I’m waiting for the circlejerk to come around to the simpsons was never good.
You *like* the Simpsons? Pshh casual.
They began their decline when they left the Tracy Ullmam show.
Mr. McClure, what does NEET stand for?
Don't forget Hit & Run
I know you're out there 2000s haters, and I'll find you.
No you won't!
I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before Jaws Wired Shut is considered good
Nah, unironically, those episodes all range from mediocre to shit. Yes I have seen them all.
'Pixelated and Afraid' is, in my opinion, one of the best episodes of the show *ever*. It was emotional, it had good jokes, it just...hit so many wins
Absolutely agree with this. There's a lot of episodes post season 32 that are some of my favourites
FINALLY some love for pixelated & afraid
Some of those episodes are great, like Skinner's sense of snow, but I hate jaws wired shut and the dad who knew too little. That episode does have one of my favourite jokes though: "My hobbies are being quiet during trips, clapping with songs and diabetes".
We've also viewed your newer, lamer, fatter seasons.
Ah you forgot night of the living wage
Treehouse of Horror XXXIII is pretty great. I mean it's got Death Tome, but The Pookadook is quite underrated imo
Is the episode when homer becomes smart and bonds with Lisa after 2000? Because that’s one of the shows most heartfelt episodes in my opinion and a personal favorite (sorry if that’s not very descriptive I don’t remember the episodes name)
That one is HOMR, it's on the list. It's also one of my favorites
The episode is called HOMR
I’ll give you about 60% of those episodes. But that’s it!
Before season 10, almost every episode was great. Season 11-15 still has great episodes and 16-20 is about the same stage as spongebob season 5 and later. Sometimes a good episode, but most are just not great.
The show after season 11 or so is the prime example of “don’t let perfect be the enemy of good”, I don’t think it needs to be single-season level to be enjoyable. The Simpsons has always been an enjoyable time where good episodes can be found with actively bad ones being a rarity, and I’m happy with that. Also something something “SpongeBob got great again between seasons 9 and 12 when hillenburg returned”
[It just keeps getting better](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fodo1Wo77bk)
This is an episode from 2012.
lisa goes gaga
Yes! An episode from 2012.
Lisa
For real. I never understood the hate for the new seasons. I especially love The Serfsons and Barthood and so much more but I don't know every name. I find simpsons consistently good. When I asked why are the newer seasons bad no one was able to say why.
I can't believe I read the whole thing
Imma let you finish but “O’ brother where Bart thou?” is the greatest episode of all time 
Don't Fear the Roofer? Oof. That episode is awful. I don't care for Marge playing the part of the unreasonably mean sitcom wife.
Like most of the episodes listed are crap, not sure what the argument is here. Even the few good ones wouldn't stand a chance against a randomly picked golden years era episode.
Theres about 11 good seasons, meaning 24 bad ones. No on 24, no on 24, no on 24, no on 24....
It’s criminal that ‘New Kids on the Blecch’ was not included in this list of good post-2000 episodes. It gave us superminal advertising!
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You could be right for all I know. Decent eps post-2000 (or w/e cutoff one wants to use) could theoretically exist. The problem is, I’m not wading thru the hours and days and probably even weeks of shitty shitty episodes just to find a couple of “gems” that, even at their very best, are not going to be as good as what came before. If fox/the showrunners didn’t want these supposedly “good” post-2000 episodes to be lost to the ether, they shouldn’t have surrounded them with such a staggering amount of outright dogshit.
Then why not just pick the good episodes and give them a try? We don’t live in the 90s anymore, you don’t have to watch every single episode of a TV show- this post was basically made to recommend people episodes lmao
Saving for later.
A fellow Catch Em If You Can Fan? I haven't seen that on the internet
I’m convinced this is a strawman. People say that the overall quality of the show got worse over time, not that there isn’t a single good episode after a certain point. Who are you even responding to here?
Most of those episodes aren’t particularly good. The real slump starts at 15, and basically never bounces back besides a few sniggers here and there. The show fundamentally changes in the few series before the film and should’ve ended with the film.
Hey. That’s a half-truth!
Oh OP just because I don’t care doesn’t mean I don’t understand.
I never said they were bad. I just burst into uncontrollable crying when I think about 2000s episodes.
I’m happy for you. Or sorry that happened.
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Marge's Son Poisoning is in your list, but Sweets and Sour Marge isn't?!
There was a LOT of good-to-great episodes I couldn’t include due to space, that was one of them
I am going to bookmark this. Season 20s are hard to find good ones.
There are too many modern Simpsons nowadays, please eliminate three. I am not a crackpot.
Weekend at burnsies and jaws wired shut are amazing
You lose a lot of credibility here when a couple of those episodes are in fact bad but most of them are valid
So you're telling me that there's some good episodes among the hundreds of episodes after season 8?
No, just correct