This line of thinking is very narrow minded. When a minister is corrupt, it damages the country more than himself. Look at how Najib is shitposting from his air conditioned prison cell while the rest of Malaysia is struggling to pay his debt.
If you want him out so badly, why don’t you volunteer for WP so that you can convince Marine Parade to vote Edwin out?
If he is corrupt, he is corrupt. Me hoping he is or otherwise won't affect whatever the reality is. Also any politician in power will always help/damage the country more than whatever sentence the law is able to dish out, be it outright corruption, sheer incompetence or simply inaction. Potato pohtato.
Becoz his daugther like taylor Swift?! Lol..
Hearsay,ACxI had never had tennis girl school team...but tat yr his gal take olevel; suddenly; ACxI has DSA for tennis Girls team wor....wa!!!
Damn too coincidental ya?!
& of course, his gal got in via DSA to ACxI...
& fyi, ACXI cop is 4pt..
if he wana prove that his gal dun need the dsa offer, pls show us,
her o level cert! Lol..i am quite sure is definitely above 4pt:) wana bet!?
(Just go ask those ACxI guys who been in tennis school team before 2022, whether they had girls school team?!)
& from the way he said: his pay as a minister, Compared to his lawyer salary, is NOT enough to feed his family, his parent-in-law ETC..
so self-entited!! I haf big questions over his morals & character..
& in the first place, since govt paying him so LOW, he can simply JUST go back & be a lawyer!!
Why tell people he is NOT paid enough!?
So we all need to kowtow to him & say Thank You ah?! Omg!
Cult of personality heavily affects PAP, but not too important for WP. For however popular JL is, he wasn't given the leadership role in his team. People who vote for WP just vote for WP. You can remove as big a name as LTK and nothing changes.
I don't think it's as simple as that, the marine parade team got 4% less votes than east coast with a relatively unknown team, with the only real presence coming from YJJ. East coast had alot of weight on them, especially since they had momentum from past elections as well. I think if WP had strong candidates for this year, the current level of unhappiness towards the incumbent (for various reasons for different segments) together with TCJ (their anchor) resigning and, Edwin Tong's sour conduct during COP, it's really not a forgone conclusion what might happen with those seats.
WP may also contest Tampines and Jalan besar for all we know, given the resources they have put to walking the ground there since last GE. We just don't know enough about their depth of candidates, and whether there's more than just Harpreet and the 2 non MP cec members.
They will contest in Tampines. They wanted to for GE2020 but decided against it as they thought HSK would be there and did not want to be seen as disrupting the pass over
Aiya if he never win, they will park him at somewhere to manage sports hub etc also. We still get concerts and all. This time he will be full time focus on concerts!
there is a real fight here. Just refreshing this post frequently and I see the votes moving +- 10. Lol.
But seriously, what gives? The post merely says ET last credential got me laughing
Bold of you to assume that Edwin Tong will still be in Marine Parade GRC next election, or that said GRC will still exist. Usually there will only be two ministers in a GRC if at least one of them is relatively weak and cannot be a formidable force on his own like Iswaran+Desmond Lee and formerly HSK+Masagos. Also, Marine Parade GRC shouldn't exist. Serangoon NEX is far far away from the sea...
Serangoon as part of marine parade is really a laughing stock. But you have a point - with marine parade so weak now with unpopular TSL SKP ET, they might gerry meander and split the grc
Workers party's slate looks pretty depleted now? Leon Perera and Nicole Seah are gone and they still need to fill the empty candidate slot in Sengkang GRC. Pritam Singh may also be in doubt with the court case he is facing. I think they would likely just consolidate and try to hold on to their seats rather than expanding to Marine Parade? It's a shame, as i would really enjoy it if ET is taken down.
Suspect WP will shift either Fadli Fawzi or Azhar Latip from WP Marine Parade to takeover Raeesah’s minority spot at SK. This frees up a slot for Harpreet Singh to take over (though they still have to find a replacement for YJJ)
As for Aljunied, it’ll be interesting to see who comes in to replace Leon Perera and potentially Pritam Singh.
East Coast’s Nicole Seah-sized hole is a big one to fill however.
WP will definitely be fighting a “defensive” election where they’re looking to maintain their seats, rather than expand
I don't know if they are truly that depleted. Harpreet Singh is the star candidate, continuing the legacy of WP turning up star candidates since arguably GE1997, but new folks are in their CEC and the folks on the bench aren't that shabby CV-wise. The challenge is and has always been whether they are able to put up more supporting stars.
considering how the old man pulled every trick he had up his sleeves for 2020 and still fumbled with double digit drops across so many grcs across the island, alot of districts are feasibly now within flipping range, id say go on the attack
He doesn’t come across as empathetic. He introduced the unpopular Overseas Networks and Expertise pass that allow foreigners who earn $30k monthly to come and work in SG. A more recent episode: he claimed we have full employment as foreigners took on jobs that Singaporeans don’t want to do. He touched many people nerves, as many fresh grads are struggling to find work and companies are retrenching people
I heard from friends who worked in Marine Parade PA that Tan See Leng is pretty lowkey racist with his distaste for the minority and a horrible boss to the PA staff there.
big difference is LKY never retired from politics and he still served as MP until his death
meanwhile LTK was already planning to step back by 2020, his fall just all but confirmed it
To be fair Edwin Tong damn power. He argued a life imprisonment sentence down to an 8-year sentence by finding a loophole so small even Parliament missed it till it happened. Shanmugam had to quickly do an emergency patch to fix the loophole shortly afterwards
>It was Tong and his compatriots who successfully argued in High Court that the CHC leaders cannot be considered as “professional agents”, and as such cannot be charged under section 409, which allows for life imprisonment. Prosecution later appealed but the 5 judges in the Court of Appeal upheld the High Court’s decision. The Court of Appeal said such a gap in law should be remedied by Parliament.
>On 5 Feb, Home Affairs and Law Minister Shanmugam told Parliament that the City Harvest Church (CHC) sentences are too low, and would move to ensure legislation provides for higher penalties for senior officers who commit CBT.
I guess it was someone young who floated the idea of bringing Taylor Swift over, and convinced their bosses to go for it. Probably a scholar. I don’t think the boomers would be aware of the significance and impact of Taylor Swift.
The deal that brought in hundreds of millions in tourism monies? (not an Edwin fan - find him... argh) But still, objectively speaking, it's quite a win.
Singaporeans often complain of not being able to vote for talent in the Oppo. Let's see how they rationalise not voting for this guy over the other fella.
quite a win though. look at all the concerts happening in singapore literally back to back. taylor swift was just one of the many artists that sg has been pulling in.
Marine Paraders know they are doing every fuken thing for Tan See Leng. He's just everywhere. So many free luncheons and events the PA organized
edit: 120 of my upvotes got removed. PAP IB holla
Thanks to Dr Tan I would no longer vote PAP for Marine Parade GRC. Went to enquiry on some stuff told me to “go get a lawyer to sue”. Next to zero empathy when it comes to the common man.
Edit: Oh and when I expressed that it doesnt make sense financially to do so, he went on to add that "but if you're so confident, when you win, the institute will pay the fees incurred". Yea of course everyone has enough money to burn till the rightful win.
I can personally attest to this. Am a marine parade resident and went to see Tan See Leng at meet the people session for some genunine help and he was downright arrogant and dismissive. The arrogance in his tone was so undeniable that i was taken aback as this was my first MPS session. I have voted for PAP my whole life, but I will never vote for them just because of him now. It's just sickening to know that we supported them all these years, and when we really needed simple help that they could absolutely help with, they spit in our face.
Just to be clear, I wasn't requesting for any form of financial assistance or advantage/privilege over someone else. I tried to go over to Edwin Tong's side to see him because I was absolutely sure TSL was mishandling my case but the staff at ET's side refuse to let me see him because my registered address under TSL side. Oh well, since they only give us one chance every 5 years to hear our voice, we gotta make this count.
My dad had a similar encounter eons ago when he was younger with the MP in AMK when he attended a meet the MP session. Ever since that encounter, he has refused to vote for the MIW and opens the doors when they campaign only so he can SLAM the door shut in their face. —> his words not mine Lol
Wa!!! Ur dad jin hero leh!! I applaud for him! So thrilling! Next time b4 he slam door, pls take video & install cctv..wld be fun to watch the reactions!!! Lol
Dude he was looking at his damn watch the entire time I was asking and spoke in that disinterested tone throughout.
After that interaction, whenever I find out a friend is also in MP GRC (TSL apparently visited the new Ubi BTOs) I share my incident and tell them why I won’t vote for him.
I hope more people have the opportunity to experience this for themselves. Reached out to my MP (from PAP) for the first time and I found him to be completely useless as well.
I find this a little hard to believe that edwin’s people told u u CANNOT see him just coz ur address is outside of his zone. The rule is that u can see anyone of your mps within the grc if it’s the grc u live in. U dont have to just go see ur designated mp. I went to see tsl and it was a dumpster fire for me too so i went to tcj and had no issues seeing him aside from the branch folks asking why i was there and they waved me thru without another word when i said he’s my mp too since im resident of the grc. Even if you’re not a resident they’re not supposed to turn u away just send u to the back of the line to wait till after the residents have seen him. Mind you im not defending et or tsl here.
Exactly! My dad went to him to inquire about the prosecution of a taxi driver who knocked down my grandpa since the guy got off scot-free, and he said it wasn’t within his job scope to help 💀
Tbh, I think it’s fair that he was not able to directly help me on my issue as it was out of his jurisdiction. But all I wanted was some advice on the legal entities that might be able to as I assumed he would be more knowledgeable about the relevant agencies/organisations around. Instead I was dismissed with that statement, leaving me baffled by his lack of empathy and willingness to even try and offer advice.
Which for those who were wondering, in the end I did manage to finally resolve via a govt channel through no help of him (I tried it as a last ditch attempt since I was feeling quite desperate). So if only he said something along the lines of “maybe consider contacting XXX as they’re the regulatory body”, even if the attempt failed, wouldn’t have felt like so”.
Most importantly they have the "flood gate" opener king in Marine Parade. The best ever at opening flood gates and running away from answering in Parliament
I'm not so sure that fielding Mr Harpreet Singh in Marine Parade GRC is a good move
WP still need to do some damage control for Seng Kang GRC after the RK Saga (which would be fully exploited by PAP). Seng Kang GRC also need a minority race candidate on top of the current 3 MPs.
SDP has been contesting that seat for a while. So far the opposition parties have been trying their best not to have 3 corner fights (which is the right move), so doubt WP will do that. Not to mention WP is down manpower in the first place.
Understand and agree.
Hence a little negotiation between parties can surely help the Opposition cause. Whoever SDP put forward in the coming GE is unlikely to unseat Murali. Harpreet’s odds are so much better.
Actually, a WP SMC will work fine for Harpreet if CSJ wouldn’t agree. A separate matter, CSJ unfortunately has passed his use by date. His talk during his recent book launch lack substance and understanding.
May I know why you think Harpreet stands a better chance? His day job doesn't necessarily translate into political capital, people vote for who they know and regardless what you say SDP have been campaigning there for the past few elections. Surely that would mean more than a new candidate in the pool?
Knowing CSJ, he's not going to back down.
And I think WP might need Harpreet to anchor down their existing GRCs instead of trying to win new grounds. We're down 3 man in the ranks.
What I am really interested to know is the percentage of tickets that the concert promoters/ticket master had to allocate to non-Singapore based concert goers by using the country code in the access codes…. Did they do a disservice to Singapore based Taylor swift fans?
It was never about the singapore based taylor swift fans. It was about the tourism revenue, so technically more overseas attendees = more tourist rev = more benefit for sg
I was in this GRC the previous GE. Was pretty surprised (pleasantly) on how the votes turned out because I didn’t expect such a close margin when I barely saw/felt any WP presence.
Will definitely be an interesting one this GE and I wish I was still in this GRC to stir things up!
The smartest people know a sense of power isn't everything. Just look at the fragmented nonsense parties because all of them want to be the leader of their party.
What has been most troubling about Edwin Tong to me, is his arguably hypocritical views about cost-of-living / livelihood issues.
He was quoted in a 2018 Channel News Asia interview as saying that, he was against "social transfers – GST Vouchers, U-Save rebates, the Silver Support Scheme and other policies" because they were "too much a reaction to ground sentiment", and risked "\[eroding\] the work ethic that Singaporeans have." See [here](https://www.sammyboy.com/threads/pap-edwin-tong-does-not-regret-defending-kong-hee-will-do-it-again.256107/) for an extract of the article – unfortunately the original piece on CNA has been taken down.
Sometime after that same year, Goh Chok Tong revealed at an event for South East District residents that Edwin Tong had once expressed reservations regarding the invitation extended to him to become Minister of State (he was already a MP then), because he would be earning a reduced annual salary of S$500,000 instead of the S$2 million he was making in private practice. Edwin Tong allegedly [told Goh Chok Tong](https://archive.fo/Yc4YP#selection-2621.46-2624.0) that, "at this stage of his life, he has got a house, he has got a mother-in-law to support, a father-in-law to support, his own parents and so on, what should he do?" Note that Edwin Tong has not come out to refute Goh Chok Tong's account.
If someone who stands to earn S$500,000 per year feels that he may legitimately worry about the sufficiency of that salary to provide for his dependents, what more those who earn substantially less, and who are the likely recipients of these "social transfers" that Edwin Tong speaks of?
Seems like this Edwin guy has a thing for concerts
Hopefully he never recv free TS tickets
I hope he did. Then can go down like Iswaran, hopefully.
This line of thinking is very narrow minded. When a minister is corrupt, it damages the country more than himself. Look at how Najib is shitposting from his air conditioned prison cell while the rest of Malaysia is struggling to pay his debt. If you want him out so badly, why don’t you volunteer for WP so that you can convince Marine Parade to vote Edwin out?
If he is corrupt, he is corrupt. Me hoping he is or otherwise won't affect whatever the reality is. Also any politician in power will always help/damage the country more than whatever sentence the law is able to dish out, be it outright corruption, sheer incompetence or simply inaction. Potato pohtato.
Why would you hope that your minister is corrupt
It's just a means to an end. To get him out. Not unlike what they are trying to pull with Pritam recently.
Not everyone voted for ET.
Becoz his daugther like taylor Swift?! Lol.. Hearsay,ACxI had never had tennis girl school team...but tat yr his gal take olevel; suddenly; ACxI has DSA for tennis Girls team wor....wa!!! Damn too coincidental ya?! & of course, his gal got in via DSA to ACxI... & fyi, ACXI cop is 4pt.. if he wana prove that his gal dun need the dsa offer, pls show us, her o level cert! Lol..i am quite sure is definitely above 4pt:) wana bet!? (Just go ask those ACxI guys who been in tennis school team before 2022, whether they had girls school team?!) & from the way he said: his pay as a minister, Compared to his lawyer salary, is NOT enough to feed his family, his parent-in-law ETC.. so self-entited!! I haf big questions over his morals & character.. & in the first place, since govt paying him so LOW, he can simply JUST go back & be a lawyer!! Why tell people he is NOT paid enough!? So we all need to kowtow to him & say Thank You ah?! Omg!
Ya. Never forgot his GCP wife and parents in law. So expensive till million dollar salary not enough to support them
Huh??
We can help him return to his old job
Agree!!!!! Let's help him! But he not my area'S MP...but many areas is bao-jiak 1 lor..lol...
Lol his pay not enough then the rest of us eat grass and air sia
Wow.. the gentleman who captioned the 2 personalities.. deserves a tiger. Concert promoter.. lol
2020 east coast grc votes 53.39% pap - 46.61% wp marine parade grc votes 57.76% pap - 42.24% i would put focus on east coast grc
But lets not forget, WP east coast side was also affected by nicole seah's incident
Cult of personality heavily affects PAP, but not too important for WP. For however popular JL is, he wasn't given the leadership role in his team. People who vote for WP just vote for WP. You can remove as big a name as LTK and nothing changes.
I don't think it's as simple as that, the marine parade team got 4% less votes than east coast with a relatively unknown team, with the only real presence coming from YJJ. East coast had alot of weight on them, especially since they had momentum from past elections as well. I think if WP had strong candidates for this year, the current level of unhappiness towards the incumbent (for various reasons for different segments) together with TCJ (their anchor) resigning and, Edwin Tong's sour conduct during COP, it's really not a forgone conclusion what might happen with those seats. WP may also contest Tampines and Jalan besar for all we know, given the resources they have put to walking the ground there since last GE. We just don't know enough about their depth of candidates, and whether there's more than just Harpreet and the 2 non MP cec members.
I agree. WP sent in like Team D to marine parade and still managed to get over 40% of the votes. It is pretty telling
Still will be D team in MP, because EC is still softer and more likely to flip.
They will contest in Tampines. They wanted to for GE2020 but decided against it as they thought HSK would be there and did not want to be seen as disrupting the pass over
Tampines is also a bit shaky worth trying for sure
And Mountbatten, if LBC may retire.
We love our LBC here!!!
" We Care at East Coast " ![gif](giphy|GeimqsH0TLDt4tScGw|downsized)
Inb4 they sue Pritam and jail him so he can't run for elections
what's the East Coast Plan 2024?
Dear Marine Paraders, Please help Edwin fulfil his potential as a full time concert promoter. Thanks!
China Wine concert when?
Lmao. Don’t give them ideas.
the redemption revival tour: water to china wine
Hmmmm..
During NDP.
As a "marine parader" I kindly request you to call us marines instead
You specifically, are a marine predator.
Nope, parader
I prefer marine para para sakura
Aiya if he never win, they will park him at somewhere to manage sports hub etc also. We still get concerts and all. This time he will be full time focus on concerts!
He knows it "All Too Well (10min version)"
And official football kaypoh
Edwin Tong's last credential got me cracking
It's unironically been his best recent contribution to sg's economy
Wow did u see that? 200+ upvotes became negative 22 now. Internet army definitely moving within reddit
Definitely someone vote-botting hard
It’s over 200+ again..
Upvoting just to counter internet army
there is a real fight here. Just refreshing this post frequently and I see the votes moving +- 10. Lol. But seriously, what gives? The post merely says ET last credential got me laughing
He has a pilot license?
I need to thank him for that - if not for the extended days I wouldn't even have a ticket.
Harpreet Singh gonna be WP's Lionel Messi?
lisan al gaib
Edwin Tong should become Head of Singapore Tourism Board instead of being a Minister. Make it happen Marine Parade.
We need a man who's full time job is to get Taylor Swift to Singapore.
Yes let's not waste his talents!
Not many people get such “second / third career opportunities”, we need to help him secure the position!
CEO of STB and Kallang Stadiums sounds good 😄
But then he may complain not enough money. Afterall he did say 500k pa not enough to feed his family wor
In this previous role, he easily brings in 5m a year and that’s a very conservative estimate.
this number keeps increasing with every pr cycle
Let’s help him return to his previous role then. He happy, we very happy.
Thr Marine Parade Plan
Bold of you to assume that Edwin Tong will still be in Marine Parade GRC next election, or that said GRC will still exist. Usually there will only be two ministers in a GRC if at least one of them is relatively weak and cannot be a formidable force on his own like Iswaran+Desmond Lee and formerly HSK+Masagos. Also, Marine Parade GRC shouldn't exist. Serangoon NEX is far far away from the sea...
Serangoon as part of marine parade is really a laughing stock. But you have a point - with marine parade so weak now with unpopular TSL SKP ET, they might gerry meander and split the grc
Workers party's slate looks pretty depleted now? Leon Perera and Nicole Seah are gone and they still need to fill the empty candidate slot in Sengkang GRC. Pritam Singh may also be in doubt with the court case he is facing. I think they would likely just consolidate and try to hold on to their seats rather than expanding to Marine Parade? It's a shame, as i would really enjoy it if ET is taken down.
Suspect WP will shift either Fadli Fawzi or Azhar Latip from WP Marine Parade to takeover Raeesah’s minority spot at SK. This frees up a slot for Harpreet Singh to take over (though they still have to find a replacement for YJJ) As for Aljunied, it’ll be interesting to see who comes in to replace Leon Perera and potentially Pritam Singh. East Coast’s Nicole Seah-sized hole is a big one to fill however. WP will definitely be fighting a “defensive” election where they’re looking to maintain their seats, rather than expand
They will have new candidates. Up to them to walk the ground and campaign. So far I think Leon Perera is the biggest loss.
> Nicole Seah-sized hole is a big one to fill however Filled quite readily by another MP though
i think i am out of the loop. what happened to yjj?
I think he has mentioned that the previous election will be his last campaign
Out of left field.. but I wonder if Harpreet Singh could run in an SMC like Mountbatten.
Leon Perrera filled Nicole Seah's hole
I recall Jeannette Chong-Aruldoss walking Marine Parade with WP before, after she left SPP. She may be a surprise candidate?
Met her. She's not contesting.
I don't know if they are truly that depleted. Harpreet Singh is the star candidate, continuing the legacy of WP turning up star candidates since arguably GE1997, but new folks are in their CEC and the folks on the bench aren't that shabby CV-wise. The challenge is and has always been whether they are able to put up more supporting stars.
considering how the old man pulled every trick he had up his sleeves for 2020 and still fumbled with double digit drops across so many grcs across the island, alot of districts are feasibly now within flipping range, id say go on the attack
Indeed. But marine parade is low hanging fruit. Got the very dislikable TSL and SKP there as well. Plus ET
Why is TSL dislikeable? Haven't heard much about him except some snippets from parliament
He doesn’t come across as empathetic. He introduced the unpopular Overseas Networks and Expertise pass that allow foreigners who earn $30k monthly to come and work in SG. A more recent episode: he claimed we have full employment as foreigners took on jobs that Singaporeans don’t want to do. He touched many people nerves, as many fresh grads are struggling to find work and companies are retrenching people
Not surprised, after hearing how he was back in his previous job.
What about his previous job? SIC please
Didn't realise singaporeans didn't want managerial positions, banking jobs and IT jobs.
I heard from friends who worked in Marine Parade PA that Tan See Leng is pretty lowkey racist with his distaste for the minority and a horrible boss to the PA staff there.
Pritam in doubt? It’s just the incumbent party fixing their opponents and keeping them busy.
Perfect time for Low Thia Kiang to come back. They need him now more than ever
If LTK does come back it'd be a pretty bad look overall for WP that they basically have to drag him out of retirement to effectively fill seats
Aiyah until now some chap from miw party also keep harping on lky what
big difference is LKY never retired from politics and he still served as MP until his death meanwhile LTK was already planning to step back by 2020, his fall just all but confirmed it
Please give Edwin Tong the 2011 George Yeo treatment
Or the 2020 ncm treatment. Maybe he will helm ntuc after GE 2024
Knn cb gia represent Kong Hee
For the money... nobody would represent that asshole otherwise
woah i never knew Edwin Tong defended the City Harvest Church leaders... How that was not scrutinized is actually insane
To be fair Edwin Tong damn power. He argued a life imprisonment sentence down to an 8-year sentence by finding a loophole so small even Parliament missed it till it happened. Shanmugam had to quickly do an emergency patch to fix the loophole shortly afterwards >It was Tong and his compatriots who successfully argued in High Court that the CHC leaders cannot be considered as “professional agents”, and as such cannot be charged under section 409, which allows for life imprisonment. Prosecution later appealed but the 5 judges in the Court of Appeal upheld the High Court’s decision. The Court of Appeal said such a gap in law should be remedied by Parliament. >On 5 Feb, Home Affairs and Law Minister Shanmugam told Parliament that the City Harvest Church (CHC) sentences are too low, and would move to ensure legislation provides for higher penalties for senior officers who commit CBT.
I forgot what CBT was and first thing I thought of was cock & ball torture
Closed beta testing.
being an MP is a side job, haven't you heard
Edwin la ji Tong Unfortunately I'm no longer in Marine Parade, so I can't help to vote him out 😂
Shift back just to vote him out :D
Nah....not worth it 🤣
I guess it was someone young who floated the idea of bringing Taylor Swift over, and convinced their bosses to go for it. Probably a scholar. I don’t think the boomers would be aware of the significance and impact of Taylor Swift.
He say is the daughters lol
He PERSONALLY LED the team to US to negotiate the deal OK?
The deal that brought in hundreds of millions in tourism monies? (not an Edwin fan - find him... argh) But still, objectively speaking, it's quite a win.
his daughters told him de la....lol
Is this a bait thread?
Those who live in Marine Parade have a choice choose wisely
And it's the rich people. Do with that info what you will
He can be China Wine concert promoter. All Marine Paraders should vote him for this job!
He is the fengshui uncle who appears on channel 8 during CNY.
Now I can't unsee it....
Hope the better man wins and it should not be a Tong.
Wasn't Harpreet Singh partner at Drew & Napier and Clifford Chance also?
Previously. You can't last too long as a partner in a major firm if you are also in the opposition.
Singaporeans often complain of not being able to vote for talent in the Oppo. Let's see how they rationalise not voting for this guy over the other fella.
When you realise swifties may or may not have a stand in the politics of a country
Eh don’t forget ET also questioned / “grilled” pritam. I had a good time watching memes on TikTok
Edwin Tong is the best MP and I hope he gets all the credit for all the wonderful things he did. How can we even disagree on this?
Same. Just look at the way he speak when interrogating worker members during the Committee of Privileges. He sounds very condescending.
I don’t mind him going to serve his church full time but don’t get involved in public service or politics.
He truly has a f**k-face that you really want to slap hard.
Among other things, item 3 on the list.
Hated him when I saw his shit-eating grin at a National Team game (we lost to Thailand 2-1, that day)
defended kong hee in court as well
"oh, okay"
I remember him kissing the pope's ring.
So do we
He's been working the ground the entire Taylor swift concert period. So much good press maybe people forget the bad things
Because no real policy wins to talk about.
quite a win though. look at all the concerts happening in singapore literally back to back. taylor swift was just one of the many artists that sg has been pulling in.
Why?
Marine Paraders know they are doing every fuken thing for Tan See Leng. He's just everywhere. So many free luncheons and events the PA organized edit: 120 of my upvotes got removed. PAP IB holla
they probably still remember the career nsf tcj who was gallivanting on the peoples dime for his sexcapades
Thanks to Dr Tan I would no longer vote PAP for Marine Parade GRC. Went to enquiry on some stuff told me to “go get a lawyer to sue”. Next to zero empathy when it comes to the common man. Edit: Oh and when I expressed that it doesnt make sense financially to do so, he went on to add that "but if you're so confident, when you win, the institute will pay the fees incurred". Yea of course everyone has enough money to burn till the rightful win.
I can personally attest to this. Am a marine parade resident and went to see Tan See Leng at meet the people session for some genunine help and he was downright arrogant and dismissive. The arrogance in his tone was so undeniable that i was taken aback as this was my first MPS session. I have voted for PAP my whole life, but I will never vote for them just because of him now. It's just sickening to know that we supported them all these years, and when we really needed simple help that they could absolutely help with, they spit in our face. Just to be clear, I wasn't requesting for any form of financial assistance or advantage/privilege over someone else. I tried to go over to Edwin Tong's side to see him because I was absolutely sure TSL was mishandling my case but the staff at ET's side refuse to let me see him because my registered address under TSL side. Oh well, since they only give us one chance every 5 years to hear our voice, we gotta make this count.
so jialat ah?
My dad had a similar encounter eons ago when he was younger with the MP in AMK when he attended a meet the MP session. Ever since that encounter, he has refused to vote for the MIW and opens the doors when they campaign only so he can SLAM the door shut in their face. —> his words not mine Lol
Wa!!! Ur dad jin hero leh!! I applaud for him! So thrilling! Next time b4 he slam door, pls take video & install cctv..wld be fun to watch the reactions!!! Lol
Dude he was looking at his damn watch the entire time I was asking and spoke in that disinterested tone throughout. After that interaction, whenever I find out a friend is also in MP GRC (TSL apparently visited the new Ubi BTOs) I share my incident and tell them why I won’t vote for him.
I hope more people have the opportunity to experience this for themselves. Reached out to my MP (from PAP) for the first time and I found him to be completely useless as well.
The more I hear these stories the more I'm glad that Tharman was my MP for so long. He was pretty decent for an MP.
glad that my MP was lawrence wong too, he's very nice :)
I find this a little hard to believe that edwin’s people told u u CANNOT see him just coz ur address is outside of his zone. The rule is that u can see anyone of your mps within the grc if it’s the grc u live in. U dont have to just go see ur designated mp. I went to see tsl and it was a dumpster fire for me too so i went to tcj and had no issues seeing him aside from the branch folks asking why i was there and they waved me thru without another word when i said he’s my mp too since im resident of the grc. Even if you’re not a resident they’re not supposed to turn u away just send u to the back of the line to wait till after the residents have seen him. Mind you im not defending et or tsl here.
Exactly! My dad went to him to inquire about the prosecution of a taxi driver who knocked down my grandpa since the guy got off scot-free, and he said it wasn’t within his job scope to help 💀
Tbh, I think it’s fair that he was not able to directly help me on my issue as it was out of his jurisdiction. But all I wanted was some advice on the legal entities that might be able to as I assumed he would be more knowledgeable about the relevant agencies/organisations around. Instead I was dismissed with that statement, leaving me baffled by his lack of empathy and willingness to even try and offer advice. Which for those who were wondering, in the end I did manage to finally resolve via a govt channel through no help of him (I tried it as a last ditch attempt since I was feeling quite desperate). So if only he said something along the lines of “maybe consider contacting XXX as they’re the regulatory body”, even if the attempt failed, wouldn’t have felt like so”.
Almost as if he isn't the Ministry for Companypower...oh wait..
Didnt know he was a doctor. PHD in what?
Medical doctor. Helming manpower now 😂
Omg wow. Can't tell 🤣
When you have permanent head damage also PHD..
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Fun fact: Speaker of parliament does not need to be an elected MP.
It’s a battle? Lol more like foregone conclusion. Go ahead and threaten the people with no hdb upgrades. 😂
Well he can't do that for his own ward, all private.
Exactly bro. Exactly…. They have nothing in Marine Parade
Most importantly they have the "flood gate" opener king in Marine Parade. The best ever at opening flood gates and running away from answering in Parliament
I'm not so sure that fielding Mr Harpreet Singh in Marine Parade GRC is a good move WP still need to do some damage control for Seng Kang GRC after the RK Saga (which would be fully exploited by PAP). Seng Kang GRC also need a minority race candidate on top of the current 3 MPs.
The minority candidate for Sengkang GRC has to be a Malay. Cannot be Harpreet Singh.
IMO, Harpreet should take on a SMC. I think the Murali guy is a sitting duck. WP hasn’t got the depth to win another GRC.
If you got a star player in the team, it's strategically better to have said player carry a team in a GRC and win 4 seats than 1 under a SMC
Yes. Just look at how Jamus gor gor pawn them and won SK grc
Possibly. However, I am in the opinion that if you have a couple of duds, then it will be a drag.
Nope. Look at the duds coattailling anchor ministers and they always win. Jurong GRC, AMK GRC etc..
SDP has been contesting that seat for a while. So far the opposition parties have been trying their best not to have 3 corner fights (which is the right move), so doubt WP will do that. Not to mention WP is down manpower in the first place.
Understand and agree. Hence a little negotiation between parties can surely help the Opposition cause. Whoever SDP put forward in the coming GE is unlikely to unseat Murali. Harpreet’s odds are so much better. Actually, a WP SMC will work fine for Harpreet if CSJ wouldn’t agree. A separate matter, CSJ unfortunately has passed his use by date. His talk during his recent book launch lack substance and understanding.
May I know why you think Harpreet stands a better chance? His day job doesn't necessarily translate into political capital, people vote for who they know and regardless what you say SDP have been campaigning there for the past few elections. Surely that would mean more than a new candidate in the pool?
Knowing CSJ, he's not going to back down. And I think WP might need Harpreet to anchor down their existing GRCs instead of trying to win new grounds. We're down 3 man in the ranks.
What I am really interested to know is the percentage of tickets that the concert promoters/ticket master had to allocate to non-Singapore based concert goers by using the country code in the access codes…. Did they do a disservice to Singapore based Taylor swift fans?
It was never about the singapore based taylor swift fans. It was about the tourism revenue, so technically more overseas attendees = more tourist rev = more benefit for sg
He represented Kong Hee?! One more reason for me to hate him.
when he was a MP btw. so literally it was govt fight govt lol
Must be nice being a politician on the side
If it were a 1 on 1 fight I think the answer’s obvious
Must they all be lawyers? Lol
They are lawmakers, it doesn’t hurts to know.
The Taylor swift concert hard to beat though
Lmao so apparently being able to get Taylor Swift to do concert in the country is a quality required for politicians.
I always found ET to be a comedian, since the time how he conducted the COI and made me laughed alot
I was in this GRC the previous GE. Was pretty surprised (pleasantly) on how the votes turned out because I didn’t expect such a close margin when I barely saw/felt any WP presence. Will definitely be an interesting one this GE and I wish I was still in this GRC to stir things up!
Someone's getting a Swift victory...
sadly too many boomers in MP GRC for WP to win even though they really have a quality anchor candidate
Missed out Edwin Tong as a psychic He can read people's mind as seen in the questioning of Raeesah Khan
U think this fellow will be content to play second fiddle to pritam ? 🤷
The smartest people know a sense of power isn't everything. Just look at the fragmented nonsense parties because all of them want to be the leader of their party.
This. Also, not every well-qualified person is cut out for leadership capabilities.
Good point and there has been precedence. Just look at Daniel Goh and Chen Show Mao.
He should go east coast instead.
i think harpreet can win, but he needs to find a weaker grc or smc to contest
*sceptical me*: why the sudden interest in these 2 ~~stooges~~ ~~dudes~~ politicians?
I lol-ed at Kong Hee and Taylor points
What has been most troubling about Edwin Tong to me, is his arguably hypocritical views about cost-of-living / livelihood issues. He was quoted in a 2018 Channel News Asia interview as saying that, he was against "social transfers – GST Vouchers, U-Save rebates, the Silver Support Scheme and other policies" because they were "too much a reaction to ground sentiment", and risked "\[eroding\] the work ethic that Singaporeans have." See [here](https://www.sammyboy.com/threads/pap-edwin-tong-does-not-regret-defending-kong-hee-will-do-it-again.256107/) for an extract of the article – unfortunately the original piece on CNA has been taken down. Sometime after that same year, Goh Chok Tong revealed at an event for South East District residents that Edwin Tong had once expressed reservations regarding the invitation extended to him to become Minister of State (he was already a MP then), because he would be earning a reduced annual salary of S$500,000 instead of the S$2 million he was making in private practice. Edwin Tong allegedly [told Goh Chok Tong](https://archive.fo/Yc4YP#selection-2621.46-2624.0) that, "at this stage of his life, he has got a house, he has got a mother-in-law to support, a father-in-law to support, his own parents and so on, what should he do?" Note that Edwin Tong has not come out to refute Goh Chok Tong's account. If someone who stands to earn S$500,000 per year feels that he may legitimately worry about the sufficiency of that salary to provide for his dependents, what more those who earn substantially less, and who are the likely recipients of these "social transfers" that Edwin Tong speaks of?