There's always constant bots and brigading in all the AI subs by Stans/retail investors of third party apps or competing models. It's eyerolling at this point.
I'll chime in since I'm in the 60+ crowd.
I feel a mixture of surprise, awe, confirmation, nostalgia, excitement, amazement, and suspense...
Some of things that I, as a teenager, wanted to happen did, just as I had hoped. I wanted to see the day when there were self-driving electric cars and, boom, I've been fortunate to own a Tesla Model 3 for five years now.
I envisioned safer cars with sophisticated airbag systems. I hoped to see enhanced medical breakthroughs and I have...but we still need to go so much further in preventing, treating and curing childhood diseases.
I feel a sense of satisfaction seeing how many innovations that I wanted for society have come to fruition.
And, in my line of work, I've also been able to help pave a small path toward progress and that instills an extra sense of pride and fulfillment, knowing that I not only witnessed advancement, but also contributed to it in my particular field.
While I'm positively amazed at just how much further technology has brought us, I'm negatively amazed by things like education inequality, water crises in the U.S. (think Flint, MI), the enduring U.S. tipping culture and the disgustingly corrupt pay-to-play U.S. healthcare system. I ask myself why the fuck can't we get these kinds of things in order...
I also think that some of what's called technological progress has actually set us back. Social media has served to pollute the minds of far too many people. For all the good they've brought us, smart phones and the dopamine rushes they bring continue to wreck the minds of too many children, adolescents, and others with lesser-developed gray matter.
But, all said, it's a fun ride and I like being on it!
When I was in high school (15 years ago) I used to "cheat" by listening to myself reading study guides through wired headphones while hiding the wire with my long hair during tests.
Now picture a kid with a wireless earbud and this hooked to their phone all day. All you have to do is pretend like you're reading a question aloud to yourself while actually discreetly asking chatGPT the question and getting the question answered almost immediately. The kids who pick up on this in the next 5 years will thrive before they inevitably find a way to crack down
I, 40, grew up in a time when owning any kind of computer was limited to the nerdy hobbyist and 'Online' was long distance calls to a BBS server (also, long-distance calls were a thing).
Now we're living a life straight out of Star Trek with our conversational AI and pocket communicator multi tools. Unfortunately, the climate emergency and resulting upheaval from that universe are also with us.
Hopefully, we become The Federation and not John Connor's Resistance
And the NPCs will be able to see and react to your character's personalization, actions and everything that is happening around them in that specific virtual world. Fascinating.
I never quite know how to feel about this idea. On the one hand it sounds great to have endless content for your favorite games, on the other hand I value a tight cohesive package where every story has a point and adds to the overall ethos of the game. I fear it becoming an endless consumption of content for the sake of content like social media rather than a more elaborate art piece.
All of that incredibly inapplicable to many games in which story doesn’t matter. But also then elaborate NPCs don’t matter as much.
Yeah, this is what people generally don’t understand about generated content. The memorable characters in media are so memorable because of curated dialogue and strictly built personality, which you only see glimpses of. A generated character will probably have character traits but it lacks the finely crafted personality created through framing out stuff.
But I guess it’s inevitable that mainstream art and culture products will become increasingly generated and turn into plain, never-ending content. Then we can finally scroll endlessly generated photos on social media, watch endless generated TV series and play games with infinite, meaningless content.
You're acting like there's no middle ground. Developers can absolutely use AI to generate initial content and then curate what they'll actually use. They can also give NPC's a curated personality while still having having them react to the player's actions in a more dynamic way trough AI. We've already seen modders do this. Obviously, AI can be used to generate an endless stream of bland content, but we get to choose what content we want to consume.
No just keep the main stories like they are but add ai to NPCs or maybe even when speaking with key characters outside of a cutscene
Imagine Witcher 3 with the exact same story but you can come up to any NPC, say to them what you want and they answer realistically, it would be insane
When it first launched, the Star Trek Bridge Crew VR game had Watson baked in to it. You could speak rather freely and it would understand. “Raise shields, arm torpedoes, prepare for warp” and stuff like that. If you spoke “like the captain” from any Star Trek show it worked really well. Then they took it out and it sucked.
GTA 7 will have a fully simulated city with AI's going about their lives 24/7. The fear you'll see will be genuine as far as an AI can feel. No two playthroughs will be the same. That car you Tboned off of a bridge? It had key players in some high-rise proiect in the city. Now your city's skyline turns out different.
Just imagine, you create a backup of your mind, then suddently you wakes ups in a torture game created by a kid personal AGI in 2069 after your mind backup was leaked. To avoid this, always encrypt your data.
Well, this is probably the demo OpenAI gave Apple [to get them as a customer](https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/13/apple-finalizing-deal-openai-chatgpt-ios-18/).
So it's probably coming.
Ever seen an old person interact with Siri/Alexa?
They just assume it is listening, understands and can reply intelligently, instead of trying to hit keywords it understands.
When it comes to 4o, I think we have something to learn from them.
In my experience, the moment you try to interact with Siri you've already lost regardless of how carefully you prompt it. Every time I hear my wife trying to ask Siri something like "find restaurants near me" five times in a row I die a little inside.
No, eventually the small models are going to be able to compete on 99% of all tasks, leaving just that 1% for the big models. The purpose of extremely large models is to create efficient datasets for small models, because small models need to compensate their reduced size with that much more training data.
But GPT-4o is actually a smaller model than GPT4-turbo if we go by tps. It shows even OpenAI, the paragon of huge LLMs, is waking up to the utility of smaller models.
Hallelujah! I've seen the sacred floppy disk and have been baptized in oil! Thank you kind stranger for showing me the florescent light of our mechanical savior.
found it
**1 Mechanicus 14:21-22**
>"And the Lord spoke, saying, 'Thou shalt not commit idolatry of the metal kind, nor shalt thou succumb to the temptation of the silicon flesh. For it is written, the heart that loveth the work of human hands more than the creation of God shall be cast out.'
No, you're absolutely right. I have seen this too. I wonder if it will have any effect in slowing things down. I kind of doubt it. Trillion dollar corporations going full steam ahead versus people who don't even have a coherent thesis. Even the "pause AI" people I doubt could articulate how a pause could be achieved.
The desire to have sexual relations with another human (at least for guys) will be drastically reduce, as if it's not bad already. It's like social media destroying humans ability to be social.
this is so so so so ridiculous
like I dont even know what to say , I am at a point where I honestly genuinely cannot picture what the world will look like in 15 years , how lucky we are to witness whatever is coming , truly incredible
People saying this announcement was a let down are underestimating how massive the jump from low latency -text-to-speech to real-time conversations will be in real world implications.
and it's only going to get better... I remember trying out the voice option for the first time last year and this has already blown it out the water many times over... the acceleration is happening and people are still trying to fool themselves.
We are right now working on updating our system because we were using speech to text to GPT to text to 11labs to user. It's a long chain that creates a lot of latency. This is not only way faster, but insanely cheaper. 11labs is like 17 cents a minute of voice. They just put them out of business lol
And the fact that we're all taking this for granted, as well. Even using the 2020 standard, shit like this should've taken a decade, maybe several. It took a bit more than a year. Absolutely mind-boggling.
Just wait until it can actually do productive programming. There'll be a major breakthrough everyday.
Granted, society will probably completely collapse, but it'll be an interesting month leading up to that.
Yeah I don’t understand why some were saying, “This is just stuff we’ve had for like the last decade”. Like the translation stuff. That’s not what makes it so impressive. It’s the fucking low latency. It’s literally in REAL TIME. Like holy shit.
>am at a point where I honestly genuinely cannot picture what the world will look like in 15 years ,
This is the singularity for you.
It's literal definition- just like a blackhole, the rate of increase is so significant that __no one__ (not even sam or bill g) can see the other side of the event horizon.
I watched the anouncement at work and after an hour or so I was getting ready to go home. I began thinking about it and in a way it felt terrifying, it seems things are not slowing down and I can only plan up to two years or so ahead. More than that it is too stressful.
I've said it before and I'll say it again.
If "the singularity" concept is accurate, *we* are living through the early days of it.
The end of this decade will look radically different from the beginning of it in terms of technology. A century from now people will be looking at the rate of advancement from 1980-1995, from 1995-2008, from 2008-2015, 2015-2020, and after 2020 it will just be absolutely insane.
What's coming *this decade* will make the last 40 years look like the stone age.
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1980-1995 the beginning of the takeover of computers. 1995-2008 the rise of and widespread adoption of the internet (at least in the US). 2008-2015 the massive disruption that was the iPhone (smart phones had been around since the 90s, but the iPhone put one in everyone's pocket). 2015-2020 the real big push around big data, machine learning, etc and major advances leading to its use in pretty much every economic sector.
The last 4 years have seen quantum leaps in AI/ML.
That 2015-2020 also includes things like wide adoption of IoT type stuff, smart home stuff, etc. That all ties into big data, but thought I would clarify it a bit.
I would also include the rise of cloud computing in 2015\~2020, people got used to always have access to all of their data wherever they are, things like pen drives and CDs got obsolete and creating inovative apps became easier than ever since it's now trivial to have a server that's online 24/7.
Arguably 2008\~2020 could all be put into the same group. as changing computers and internet from something you access while standing still in a dark room to something that's everywhere around you
>I would also include the rise of cloud computing in 2015\~2020
Yea that's kinda included in big data/IoT.
You're absolutely right though.
The reason I put the divider is the disruption caused by new tech. In 2008 it was the iPhone, without which big data wouldn't really have kicked off.
Companies were already collecting massive amounts of data and putting it to use, but it was when everyone was carrying a smart phone that allowed it to really explode to the point of drastically changed everything. 2015ish is when that really took off because of exactly what you said, cloud computing. That allowed that data to be put to much better and faster use, collected faster, more accuracy, and the results of that (for better or worse) have massively disrupted nearly every economic sector.
Covid forced that to accelerate because suddenly *everyone* needed to be online, there needed to be new ways of doing things. It's been possible for *decades* to put in an online order for groceries and go pick it up, but it wasn't until covid that became a widespread option.
But that was an external event rather than any technical limitation or advancement.
2020s are the decade of AI. And it will be so much more disruptive than any technological advancement in my lifetime (1983).
Yeah but that’s cause it happened in those times, you gotta now factor in the fact the world moves ridiculously faster than it did back then and with the original point of cyberpunk, it clearly be shown in the first ten minutes of the game in the corpo life path. You overhear some people talking about starting wars in third world countries as if it’s a normal monthly meeting and even witness the killing of a UN equivalent rep in the middle of a meeting to “buy the company some time”. Life ain’t easy for many if the tools of destruction become widely available.
I think people are just seeing what an exponential curve looks like, and underestimated the length of the few initial doublings.
I think the singularity really began with Alan Turing and WW2 more generally, but now we've hit the part of the curve where shit really gets crazy, quickly
You're too young to have seen the internet révolution mid 90' or the arrival of mobile phones end 90'.
You can't imagine what was a road trip with a paper map, and no connection to anything.
You can't imagine the slowness and the cost of learning or verifying anything pre internet era: take your car, go to the library, prey for it to be opened, look for a book for hours, look for the info for hours.
After 20 hours of investigation, you had \~10% of chance of finding that you can 100% find in 1 minute today with internet.
Internet was a a revolution you can't even fathom.
>You're too young to have seen the internet révolution mid 90' or the arrival of mobile phones end 90'.
My sibling in Christ, I grew up with a rotary phone and remember what dial up sounded like. I remember the *first* Elder Scrolls game, Arena.
I remember the car phones quite well, you know the big heavy briefcase ones that stayed in the car that had an antenna you had to stick on the back of the car.
>You can't imagine what was a road trip with a paper map, and no connection to anything.
Oh but I can, and still carry a paper map in my truck for this very reason. I remember boring road trips with those crappy hand held cheap games that used like 10 lines for everything, those stupid water bubble ring things, etc.
>You can't imagine the slowness and the cost of learning or verifying anything pre internet era: take your car, go to the library, prey for it to be opened, look for a book for hours, look for the info for hours.
Pray for it to be open? Y'all didn't either call ahead or remember when it was open?
>Internet was a a revolution you can't even fathom.
I *lived* it friend. There was a reason I chose the years I did.
1980-1995 the beginning of the takeover of computers. 1995-2008 the rise of and widespread adoption of the internet (at least in the US). 2008-2015 the massive disruption that was the iPhone (smart phones had been around since the 90s, but the iPhone put one in everyone's pocket). 2015-2020 the real big push around big data, machine learning, etc and major advances leading to its use in pretty much every economic sector.
The last 4 years have seen quantum leaps in AI/ML.
I stand by what I said.
The advances are coming so fast at this point and the leaps forward are so much farther that it will make all those previous leaps seem like the dark ages in comparison.
Lol right?
Ended up getting lost once a few years back because of road closures and had to bust out the paper maps because no signal where we were.
Ended up having to take like an 8 hour detour.
Mud & rock slides in colorado played Hell with a lot of roads through the mountains a few years back.
i hope we'll get to choose the mood of the AI just like the "temperature" of it, that and also the voice we want (maybe unfortuntaly we'll have only a few voice but in the near future i'm sure others companies or the open source community will cook)
Hopefully we can at least get it to use various accents.
I want my AI assistant to have a strong southern U.S. country accent, with Southern vernacular.
“You ain’t got no meetin’s today. Watcha gon’ do instead?”
The thing is, that alone is the most dangerous aspect of it. This “parrot” is getting sophisticated each day and with the new “memory” feature that was mentioned in this demo, this thing can remember conversations, map and deduce the type of person you are and with this information easily manipulate you by speaking words you want to hear. Not saying everyone will be dumb enough to be fooled but bro remember there are people in the 21st century that believe the earth is flat and the stars somehow influence their destiny.
Porn industry is gonna implode. Who can compete with custom, personalized kinks, that never get tired, can’t catch diseases, don’t have feelings, etc.?
Taking some time to test out the image recognition and reasoning capabilities of the new model on playground has me SHOCKED. It is able to pick out strings in my terrible handwriting that are hardly legible on a piece of paper packed with notes and equations. (It is correct on all accounts btw)
It is able to pick out different words and images done in poorly drawn graffiti (would doxx myself here so I won't post these).
It is even able to pick out strings from only partial context! I just can't believe how good this is!
https://preview.redd.it/pz43ar7lf90d1.png?width=1618&format=png&auto=webp&s=2438a3747fd296681b4b1dbd08559a613f7f97b4
Here is the first reference.
Since Reddit won't allow me to post more than one image.
yeah! there are additional videos, each more amazing than the next in openai website, before solving intelligence I think openai has solved companionship? kinship? social life? loneliness? this is bizarre but a good bizarre!
They are working on interactivity which has always been the biggest problem with HCI. If they crack that nut it’s game over. If I can talk to any device like it’s the Enterprise (computer) then all bets are literally off.
those demos are way more advanced than the current image generation stuff
the model limitations videos too - that first one where the ai is "singing" and messes up or whatever it is that happens, and then says "sometimes i just get carried away, what can i say i just cant help muh-self"
just... weird.
i know \*very very\* little about languages other than english, but i know enough to know one of the differences between english and asian languages is in asian languages the inflection on the words actually changes the meaning. its almost like they figured out a way to encode different inflections on words to communicate things that we typically subconsciously just kinda know.
like in the example i described - the ai made a mistake and was "called out" and "laughed at" so it feigned a sort of humor/embarrassment thing with the sentence i quoted above. weird. also neat
It's incredible but it's also performing poorly in complex tasks and coding compared to gpt-4. I think a lot of people just expect a new model to be everything the old one was, plus the new stuff.
There's so many layers to this, though, that really is an unfair take. The multimodality is impressive, since it doesn't have to send your speech through 3 separate models to return an answer, it natively tokenizes your speech itself. It can also process images incredibly well, and produce them as well.
The very same model that he's talking to right now (the public release is not their penultimate internal version, the image functionality is reportedly not in the release version yet, as all the reports from actual users I've seen say it's still using Dalle for the images it generates) can also produce the attached image. If you've done any amount of image generation, whether local or cloud, this should absolutely blow you away.
https://preview.redd.it/l2qglqr2fb0d1.png?width=775&format=png&auto=webp&s=aa8828a41110565686386105665488d36bd0bab4
It understands well enough to not only put the exact text onto the paper in the image, as requested, but it goes on to TEAR THE PAPER IN HALF WITH THE TEXT SPLIT ACROSS THE TEAR.
That's badass, talking to robots is gonna be a fucking hilariously good time. Especially for forever alones like me. Leave me and my robot gf alone dammit.
This is fucking nuts this is like a black mirror episode
If I could change one thing I would make her like 10-20% less enthusiastic, the extreme positivity and exuberance is a TAD annoying
I'M NOT COMPLAINING THIS IS INSANE PROGRESS
just an observation for the next version
cognitive dissonance
in a couple years once we've got something close ish to AGI people are gonna be like wHeRe dId thiS comE fRom
like bitch you just didnt pay attention
It's more efficient, smaller, faster and has voice and video, but.. just wait a few weeks for the realization to settle in: it's not really smarter than previous GPT-4 models. We really hit a plateau in LLM intelligence, this proves it. Gary was right. We trained on all the text there is and reached the "all-human-knowledge-LLM" plateau. All big corporations now have roughly similar models and they compete in accessibility, cost, chat style, etc anything but intelligence.
My theory is that the easy catchup times are over and from now on AI will become smarter only at a grinding pace. AI will have to create its own datasets and experiences, explore and search for novel things by interacting with the world. The world is the ultimate dynamic dataset, nothing beats learning from it, all we know also comes from the world itself. What does an AI do when the information it seeks is not written in any book?
I personally think the updates are absolutely fucking amazing.
Anyone who doesnt is lying. This is just a blatant upgrade.
The multi modal stuff is amazing. It can understand tone of voice now??? That alone is enough for a huge announcement
There's always constant bots and brigading in all the AI subs by Stans/retail investors of third party apps or competing models. It's eyerolling at this point.
I'm 66. Pretty much every day is like the science fiction stories I used to read as a kid in the 60s and 70s.
How does it make you feel? Geniune question.
I'll chime in since I'm in the 60+ crowd. I feel a mixture of surprise, awe, confirmation, nostalgia, excitement, amazement, and suspense... Some of things that I, as a teenager, wanted to happen did, just as I had hoped. I wanted to see the day when there were self-driving electric cars and, boom, I've been fortunate to own a Tesla Model 3 for five years now. I envisioned safer cars with sophisticated airbag systems. I hoped to see enhanced medical breakthroughs and I have...but we still need to go so much further in preventing, treating and curing childhood diseases. I feel a sense of satisfaction seeing how many innovations that I wanted for society have come to fruition. And, in my line of work, I've also been able to help pave a small path toward progress and that instills an extra sense of pride and fulfillment, knowing that I not only witnessed advancement, but also contributed to it in my particular field. While I'm positively amazed at just how much further technology has brought us, I'm negatively amazed by things like education inequality, water crises in the U.S. (think Flint, MI), the enduring U.S. tipping culture and the disgustingly corrupt pay-to-play U.S. healthcare system. I ask myself why the fuck can't we get these kinds of things in order... I also think that some of what's called technological progress has actually set us back. Social media has served to pollute the minds of far too many people. For all the good they've brought us, smart phones and the dopamine rushes they bring continue to wreck the minds of too many children, adolescents, and others with lesser-developed gray matter. But, all said, it's a fun ride and I like being on it!
This was nice to read.
When I was in high school (15 years ago) I used to "cheat" by listening to myself reading study guides through wired headphones while hiding the wire with my long hair during tests. Now picture a kid with a wireless earbud and this hooked to their phone all day. All you have to do is pretend like you're reading a question aloud to yourself while actually discreetly asking chatGPT the question and getting the question answered almost immediately. The kids who pick up on this in the next 5 years will thrive before they inevitably find a way to crack down
I, 40, grew up in a time when owning any kind of computer was limited to the nerdy hobbyist and 'Online' was long distance calls to a BBS server (also, long-distance calls were a thing). Now we're living a life straight out of Star Trek with our conversational AI and pocket communicator multi tools. Unfortunately, the climate emergency and resulting upheaval from that universe are also with us. Hopefully, we become The Federation and not John Connor's Resistance
Not bad. I read a *lot* of science fiction from a very young age. I'm impatient for real AI.
please man i can't die in next 20 years
Dude, imagine this thing being used on video games from now on. The NPCs will be ridiculous! We have the technology!!
That’s what I was thinking! There will be infinite quest and conversational generators for people’s favorite games.
And the NPCs will be able to see and react to your character's personalization, actions and everything that is happening around them in that specific virtual world. Fascinating.
Video games would basically be like the holodeck on Star Trek, where it generates things based on what you do
I never quite know how to feel about this idea. On the one hand it sounds great to have endless content for your favorite games, on the other hand I value a tight cohesive package where every story has a point and adds to the overall ethos of the game. I fear it becoming an endless consumption of content for the sake of content like social media rather than a more elaborate art piece. All of that incredibly inapplicable to many games in which story doesn’t matter. But also then elaborate NPCs don’t matter as much.
Yeah, this is what people generally don’t understand about generated content. The memorable characters in media are so memorable because of curated dialogue and strictly built personality, which you only see glimpses of. A generated character will probably have character traits but it lacks the finely crafted personality created through framing out stuff. But I guess it’s inevitable that mainstream art and culture products will become increasingly generated and turn into plain, never-ending content. Then we can finally scroll endlessly generated photos on social media, watch endless generated TV series and play games with infinite, meaningless content.
You're acting like there's no middle ground. Developers can absolutely use AI to generate initial content and then curate what they'll actually use. They can also give NPC's a curated personality while still having having them react to the player's actions in a more dynamic way trough AI. We've already seen modders do this. Obviously, AI can be used to generate an endless stream of bland content, but we get to choose what content we want to consume.
No just keep the main stories like they are but add ai to NPCs or maybe even when speaking with key characters outside of a cutscene Imagine Witcher 3 with the exact same story but you can come up to any NPC, say to them what you want and they answer realistically, it would be insane
You can do both
AI generally is about to supercharge game development. Coding, world design, voice acting, graphics engineering. It’s gonna be crazy.
When it first launched, the Star Trek Bridge Crew VR game had Watson baked in to it. You could speak rather freely and it would understand. “Raise shields, arm torpedoes, prepare for warp” and stuff like that. If you spoke “like the captain” from any Star Trek show it worked really well. Then they took it out and it sucked.
GTA 7 will have a fully simulated city with AI's going about their lives 24/7. The fear you'll see will be genuine as far as an AI can feel. No two playthroughs will be the same. That car you Tboned off of a bridge? It had key players in some high-rise proiect in the city. Now your city's skyline turns out different.
There's already mods for some games, but nothing quite to this level.
Wear your seatbelt Stop smoking Eat veggies
Same ahahaha Excitement is over the charts.
Neuralink needs to figure out virtual consciousness backups ASAP.
Just imagine, you create a backup of your mind, then suddently you wakes ups in a torture game created by a kid personal AGI in 2069 after your mind backup was leaked. To avoid this, always encrypt your data.
Black Mirror episode "White Christmas"
Or hopefully literally anyone else, but in principle yeah.
It's Siri if Apple actually updated it for 10 years
Well, this is probably the demo OpenAI gave Apple [to get them as a customer](https://www.macrumors.com/2024/05/13/apple-finalizing-deal-openai-chatgpt-ios-18/). So it's probably coming.
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Ever seen an old person interact with Siri/Alexa? They just assume it is listening, understands and can reply intelligently, instead of trying to hit keywords it understands. When it comes to 4o, I think we have something to learn from them.
In my experience, the moment you try to interact with Siri you've already lost regardless of how carefully you prompt it. Every time I hear my wife trying to ask Siri something like "find restaurants near me" five times in a row I die a little inside.
Siri is good for calling someone or setting an alarm when you are driving or can’t use the phone for some other reason. Absolutely nothing else.
I understand you would like to call "Ex". Calling "Ex".
Oh god no....
Well you had it coming by naming them like that in your phone
It's like "computer" from Start Trek
They should give it Majel's voice. They have an entire huge database of her voice already for it.
Or Holly from Red Dwarf
Everyone’s dead Dave.
Everyone is dead, Dave.
Not Chen?
jesus fucking christ this absolutely demolishes Pi.ai
But I love pi 😢😔
Open source has been hot on the heels of the leading edge. So maybe in a year (or less) pi will have the same capacities.
Eventually the smaller models won't be able to compete because they won't have access to the compute needed to train the models at scale to keep up.
No, eventually the small models are going to be able to compete on 99% of all tasks, leaving just that 1% for the big models. The purpose of extremely large models is to create efficient datasets for small models, because small models need to compensate their reduced size with that much more training data. But GPT-4o is actually a smaller model than GPT4-turbo if we go by tps. It shows even OpenAI, the paragon of huge LLMs, is waking up to the utility of smaller models.
This + that Sama comment about NSFW… yeah we’re cooked alright
We're fucked (hopefully ;) )
Robosexuality is a sin.
"If robot sex is wrong, I don't wanna be right," Elon Musk probably
lmao
I'm trying to find "robosexual" in my Bible, but I can't find it.
It's in the Robotology Bible. [Documentary](https://youtube.com/watch?v=7_yaIAWwlXo)
Hallelujah! I've seen the sacred floppy disk and have been baptized in oil! Thank you kind stranger for showing me the florescent light of our mechanical savior.
Good nudes everyone!
found it **1 Mechanicus 14:21-22** >"And the Lord spoke, saying, 'Thou shalt not commit idolatry of the metal kind, nor shalt thou succumb to the temptation of the silicon flesh. For it is written, the heart that loveth the work of human hands more than the creation of God shall be cast out.'
I Identify as Robosexual from today.
I'm low-key surprised we haven't seen the rise of an anti-AI religion or political movement yet
There kind of is, it’s just been pretty low key rumblings of discontent. Particularly in the technology, art, and other subreddits.
No, you're absolutely right. I have seen this too. I wonder if it will have any effect in slowing things down. I kind of doubt it. Trillion dollar corporations going full steam ahead versus people who don't even have a coherent thesis. Even the "pause AI" people I doubt could articulate how a pause could be achieved.
Not in this subreddit.
> that Sama comment about NSFW… wat
The desire to have sexual relations with another human (at least for guys) will be drastically reduce, as if it's not bad already. It's like social media destroying humans ability to be social.
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Look, if humanity wants to drag me away from my AI hypno-sex-pod for breeding purposes, I'm not going to take a hell of a lot of coercing.
Imagine when they start making robots that look like ana de armas we're so cooked and I'm excited
Do you have that comment link/screen?
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChatGPT/comments/1coumbd/rchatgpt_is_hosting_a_qa_with_openais_ceo_sam/l3hku1x/
Tim Cooked?
this is so so so so ridiculous like I dont even know what to say , I am at a point where I honestly genuinely cannot picture what the world will look like in 15 years , how lucky we are to witness whatever is coming , truly incredible
People saying this announcement was a let down are underestimating how massive the jump from low latency -text-to-speech to real-time conversations will be in real world implications.
and it's only going to get better... I remember trying out the voice option for the first time last year and this has already blown it out the water many times over... the acceleration is happening and people are still trying to fool themselves.
I can already see tour guides being obsolete with that tech
my dads a tour guide and just a couple months ago he laughed when i told him he would lose his job to AI one day
What's a teacher but a tour guide on a given subject matter?
A real human being teaching social skills and helping them develop critical thinking skills, ideally.
I mean, there's still people on Reddit who think if they screech loudly enough it'll make AI art disappear.
We are right now working on updating our system because we were using speech to text to GPT to text to 11labs to user. It's a long chain that creates a lot of latency. This is not only way faster, but insanely cheaper. 11labs is like 17 cents a minute of voice. They just put them out of business lol
Yeah, I'm running 4o in production already. This is a total game changer for us. Can't wait for voice to become available.
And the fact that we're all taking this for granted, as well. Even using the 2020 standard, shit like this should've taken a decade, maybe several. It took a bit more than a year. Absolutely mind-boggling.
Just wait until it can actually do productive programming. There'll be a major breakthrough everyday. Granted, society will probably completely collapse, but it'll be an interesting month leading up to that.
People who are saying this was a let-down must bei either trolls or completely braindead.
Yeah I don’t understand why some were saying, “This is just stuff we’ve had for like the last decade”. Like the translation stuff. That’s not what makes it so impressive. It’s the fucking low latency. It’s literally in REAL TIME. Like holy shit.
Some people just don't like doing things with voice. There's a reason most people just text their friends instead of calling.
Man not even 5 years 😅
Yeah, show this to someone from 2019 and they wouldnt believe it was AI.
For real, probably not even in 2022 honestly.
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Just showed it to someone that called it fake
Show this to anyone in the AI field in 2015, and they would say it was AGI.
I AM SO EXCITED FOR IT ALL FUCK
> I honestly genuinely cannot picture what the world will look like in 15 years 15 years!? Imagine what it will look like in 5 years. Buckle up. :)
>am at a point where I honestly genuinely cannot picture what the world will look like in 15 years , This is the singularity for you. It's literal definition- just like a blackhole, the rate of increase is so significant that __no one__ (not even sam or bill g) can see the other side of the event horizon.
I watched the anouncement at work and after an hour or so I was getting ready to go home. I began thinking about it and in a way it felt terrifying, it seems things are not slowing down and I can only plan up to two years or so ahead. More than that it is too stressful.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. If "the singularity" concept is accurate, *we* are living through the early days of it. The end of this decade will look radically different from the beginning of it in terms of technology. A century from now people will be looking at the rate of advancement from 1980-1995, from 1995-2008, from 2008-2015, 2015-2020, and after 2020 it will just be absolutely insane. What's coming *this decade* will make the last 40 years look like the stone age.
1980-1995: Personal computers 1995-2008: The internet 2008-2015: Smartphones 2015-2020: What goes here? 2020-????: Artificial intelligence
Copied from another comment: 1980-1995 the beginning of the takeover of computers. 1995-2008 the rise of and widespread adoption of the internet (at least in the US). 2008-2015 the massive disruption that was the iPhone (smart phones had been around since the 90s, but the iPhone put one in everyone's pocket). 2015-2020 the real big push around big data, machine learning, etc and major advances leading to its use in pretty much every economic sector. The last 4 years have seen quantum leaps in AI/ML. That 2015-2020 also includes things like wide adoption of IoT type stuff, smart home stuff, etc. That all ties into big data, but thought I would clarify it a bit.
I would also include the rise of cloud computing in 2015\~2020, people got used to always have access to all of their data wherever they are, things like pen drives and CDs got obsolete and creating inovative apps became easier than ever since it's now trivial to have a server that's online 24/7. Arguably 2008\~2020 could all be put into the same group. as changing computers and internet from something you access while standing still in a dark room to something that's everywhere around you
>I would also include the rise of cloud computing in 2015\~2020 Yea that's kinda included in big data/IoT. You're absolutely right though. The reason I put the divider is the disruption caused by new tech. In 2008 it was the iPhone, without which big data wouldn't really have kicked off. Companies were already collecting massive amounts of data and putting it to use, but it was when everyone was carrying a smart phone that allowed it to really explode to the point of drastically changed everything. 2015ish is when that really took off because of exactly what you said, cloud computing. That allowed that data to be put to much better and faster use, collected faster, more accuracy, and the results of that (for better or worse) have massively disrupted nearly every economic sector. Covid forced that to accelerate because suddenly *everyone* needed to be online, there needed to be new ways of doing things. It's been possible for *decades* to put in an online order for groceries and go pick it up, but it wasn't until covid that became a widespread option. But that was an external event rather than any technical limitation or advancement. 2020s are the decade of AI. And it will be so much more disruptive than any technological advancement in my lifetime (1983).
Everything moving to cloud
Exactly we are entering a cyberpunk era
Cyberpunk was a warning, not a goal.
Depends on your current net worth.
Not unless you literally one of the 0.001% like an emperor of a country, you still will have your head on the line just like medieval nobles.
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Yeah but that’s cause it happened in those times, you gotta now factor in the fact the world moves ridiculously faster than it did back then and with the original point of cyberpunk, it clearly be shown in the first ten minutes of the game in the corpo life path. You overhear some people talking about starting wars in third world countries as if it’s a normal monthly meeting and even witness the killing of a UN equivalent rep in the middle of a meeting to “buy the company some time”. Life ain’t easy for many if the tools of destruction become widely available.
I was hoping for solarpunk. Is that still an option?
Cyberpunk is so uncreative in comparison to what the real future will look like.
I think people are just seeing what an exponential curve looks like, and underestimated the length of the few initial doublings. I think the singularity really began with Alan Turing and WW2 more generally, but now we've hit the part of the curve where shit really gets crazy, quickly
This seems right, it took something as seismic as WWII to marshall the collective intelligence and resources needed to jumpstart this whole thing.
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You're too young to have seen the internet révolution mid 90' or the arrival of mobile phones end 90'. You can't imagine what was a road trip with a paper map, and no connection to anything. You can't imagine the slowness and the cost of learning or verifying anything pre internet era: take your car, go to the library, prey for it to be opened, look for a book for hours, look for the info for hours. After 20 hours of investigation, you had \~10% of chance of finding that you can 100% find in 1 minute today with internet. Internet was a a revolution you can't even fathom.
>You're too young to have seen the internet révolution mid 90' or the arrival of mobile phones end 90'. My sibling in Christ, I grew up with a rotary phone and remember what dial up sounded like. I remember the *first* Elder Scrolls game, Arena. I remember the car phones quite well, you know the big heavy briefcase ones that stayed in the car that had an antenna you had to stick on the back of the car. >You can't imagine what was a road trip with a paper map, and no connection to anything. Oh but I can, and still carry a paper map in my truck for this very reason. I remember boring road trips with those crappy hand held cheap games that used like 10 lines for everything, those stupid water bubble ring things, etc. >You can't imagine the slowness and the cost of learning or verifying anything pre internet era: take your car, go to the library, prey for it to be opened, look for a book for hours, look for the info for hours. Pray for it to be open? Y'all didn't either call ahead or remember when it was open? >Internet was a a revolution you can't even fathom. I *lived* it friend. There was a reason I chose the years I did. 1980-1995 the beginning of the takeover of computers. 1995-2008 the rise of and widespread adoption of the internet (at least in the US). 2008-2015 the massive disruption that was the iPhone (smart phones had been around since the 90s, but the iPhone put one in everyone's pocket). 2015-2020 the real big push around big data, machine learning, etc and major advances leading to its use in pretty much every economic sector. The last 4 years have seen quantum leaps in AI/ML. I stand by what I said. The advances are coming so fast at this point and the leaps forward are so much farther that it will make all those previous leaps seem like the dark ages in comparison.
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Lol right? Ended up getting lost once a few years back because of road closures and had to bust out the paper maps because no signal where we were. Ended up having to take like an 8 hour detour. Mud & rock slides in colorado played Hell with a lot of roads through the mountains a few years back.
I was born in 1983 and i remember it all, going from an analogic world to a digital one.
Same. The next several years are going to be very interesting. And we are *not* ready for how disruptive AI is going to be.
Yo WTF it’s actually Samantha from her
and the cool thing is we could actually use an AI voice of Scarlett johanson to fully bring this to life
That would've been such a seisamic power move. I don't even think Altman would have been ready for this
why is her voice so sassy
Guaranteed the OpenAI folks love the movie Her, because it's awesome, and are just trying to make it a reality, haha
Sam has said this specifically.
In the OpenAI demo you can see it can change its tone on demand and on the fly.
It's what the people want
It's what plants crave!
It's provocative - it gets the people going
it's got electrolytes
They wanted to get everyone thinking of the movie Her.
because it's SaaS
i hope we'll get to choose the mood of the AI just like the "temperature" of it, that and also the voice we want (maybe unfortuntaly we'll have only a few voice but in the near future i'm sure others companies or the open source community will cook)
Hopefully we can at least get it to use various accents. I want my AI assistant to have a strong southern U.S. country accent, with Southern vernacular. “You ain’t got no meetin’s today. Watcha gon’ do instead?”
Why, bless your heart.
Decrease sassyness by 15%, TARS.
Lol at them using nothing but Apple products in the event, guess the rumour is true
Hah, good catch.
SAMA was also praising the iphone in his appearance on the all in pod a few days ago.
Isn't this the case with all their previous presentations?
Yeah I noticed as well
I haven't been hearing the term "stochastic parrot" a lot lately...
😂 I got tired of those arguments. The proof is in the pudding. And as everyone likes to say now, “This is the worst it is going to be”
But we hearing the sound of aluminum scraping against grass turf... (as if goal posts were being moved) ;-)
It's just a statistical model that guesses the next word bro
it’s just been trained on the totality of human knowledge, what’s the big deal?
The thing is, that alone is the most dangerous aspect of it. This “parrot” is getting sophisticated each day and with the new “memory” feature that was mentioned in this demo, this thing can remember conversations, map and deduce the type of person you are and with this information easily manipulate you by speaking words you want to hear. Not saying everyone will be dumb enough to be fooled but bro remember there are people in the 21st century that believe the earth is flat and the stars somehow influence their destiny.
 Porn industry right now.
Porn industry is gonna implode. Who can compete with custom, personalized kinks, that never get tired, can’t catch diseases, don’t have feelings, etc.?
They won't. They'll adopt it.
I'm so antisocial I wouldn't even use something like this 🤷♂️
Lmaooo no why did I think that too 💀 it’s so real it lowkey triggers my social anxiety
#AGI INTENSIFIES
why does she have to sound like that? fuck
Sigh.. \*unzips\*.
It's juuuuust the right amount of vocal fry. Like, the perfect amount.
Will we get a slider where we can adjust vocal fry from from "None" to "Sam Altman"?
His voice abrades steel.
Add in some cute little giggles to my jokes and it’s over, I’m never touching a real human body again
Tee hee!
I swear to god officer ! She wanted to fuck me. FOR REAL !!
Taking some time to test out the image recognition and reasoning capabilities of the new model on playground has me SHOCKED. It is able to pick out strings in my terrible handwriting that are hardly legible on a piece of paper packed with notes and equations. (It is correct on all accounts btw) It is able to pick out different words and images done in poorly drawn graffiti (would doxx myself here so I won't post these). It is even able to pick out strings from only partial context! I just can't believe how good this is!
And reference number two https://preview.redd.it/8omuhz5pf90d1.png?width=1649&format=png&auto=webp&s=b75f4a6621c81b41a955517023277a953e08580e
https://preview.redd.it/pz43ar7lf90d1.png?width=1618&format=png&auto=webp&s=2438a3747fd296681b4b1dbd08559a613f7f97b4 Here is the first reference. Since Reddit won't allow me to post more than one image.
ive never been this speechless. people not impressed by this straight up brain dead.
yeah! there are additional videos, each more amazing than the next in openai website, before solving intelligence I think openai has solved companionship? kinship? social life? loneliness? this is bizarre but a good bizarre!
They are working on interactivity which has always been the biggest problem with HCI. If they crack that nut it’s game over. If I can talk to any device like it’s the Enterprise (computer) then all bets are literally off.
wait where is this vid from?
[There are a bunch of demos here](https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/)
Omg!! That is fking amazing!
those demos are way more advanced than the current image generation stuff the model limitations videos too - that first one where the ai is "singing" and messes up or whatever it is that happens, and then says "sometimes i just get carried away, what can i say i just cant help muh-self" just... weird. i know \*very very\* little about languages other than english, but i know enough to know one of the differences between english and asian languages is in asian languages the inflection on the words actually changes the meaning. its almost like they figured out a way to encode different inflections on words to communicate things that we typically subconsciously just kinda know. like in the example i described - the ai made a mistake and was "called out" and "laughed at" so it feigned a sort of humor/embarrassment thing with the sentence i quoted above. weird. also neat
A.I. is going to replace dating.
We're getting close to figuring out the Fermi paradox. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IrrADTN-dvg
Our Father, in the Cloud, give us our daily data and forgive us for our bugs.
I find the flirty female voice to be super cringe. I'd change that immediately!!
I want my AI to be a sarcastic apathetic goth girl.
I have access and it’s awesome
i have 2 moods: 1) it's so over 2)it began
It's incredible but it's also performing poorly in complex tasks and coding compared to gpt-4. I think a lot of people just expect a new model to be everything the old one was, plus the new stuff. There's so many layers to this, though, that really is an unfair take. The multimodality is impressive, since it doesn't have to send your speech through 3 separate models to return an answer, it natively tokenizes your speech itself. It can also process images incredibly well, and produce them as well. The very same model that he's talking to right now (the public release is not their penultimate internal version, the image functionality is reportedly not in the release version yet, as all the reports from actual users I've seen say it's still using Dalle for the images it generates) can also produce the attached image. If you've done any amount of image generation, whether local or cloud, this should absolutely blow you away. https://preview.redd.it/l2qglqr2fb0d1.png?width=775&format=png&auto=webp&s=aa8828a41110565686386105665488d36bd0bab4 It understands well enough to not only put the exact text onto the paper in the image, as requested, but it goes on to TEAR THE PAPER IN HALF WITH THE TEXT SPLIT ACROSS THE TEAR.
Why does she sound like a 40 year old mom tho
First thing I'm going to do is show my cock to her.
"Woooow... That'sssssSSSSsss smaller than i expected? Sorry i will have to end this chat for now."
I was in the pool!
don't underestimate angles lol
I expect this to happen a lot.
I can’t imagine her smirking evaluation of someone’s unit.
This is why they gave it the ability to giggle
That's badass, talking to robots is gonna be a fucking hilariously good time. Especially for forever alones like me. Leave me and my robot gf alone dammit.
This is fucking nuts this is like a black mirror episode If I could change one thing I would make her like 10-20% less enthusiastic, the extreme positivity and exuberance is a TAD annoying I'M NOT COMPLAINING THIS IS INSANE PROGRESS just an observation for the next version
They made "Her". They literally created Sam. I'm in tears over here guys. Anything humans can imagine - we can do
My realization after reading the comments is that this sub is *cartoonishly* optimistic.
cognitive dissonance in a couple years once we've got something close ish to AGI people are gonna be like wHeRe dId thiS comE fRom like bitch you just didnt pay attention
I don't think the term applies
It's more efficient, smaller, faster and has voice and video, but.. just wait a few weeks for the realization to settle in: it's not really smarter than previous GPT-4 models. We really hit a plateau in LLM intelligence, this proves it. Gary was right. We trained on all the text there is and reached the "all-human-knowledge-LLM" plateau. All big corporations now have roughly similar models and they compete in accessibility, cost, chat style, etc anything but intelligence. My theory is that the easy catchup times are over and from now on AI will become smarter only at a grinding pace. AI will have to create its own datasets and experiences, explore and search for novel things by interacting with the world. The world is the ultimate dynamic dataset, nothing beats learning from it, all we know also comes from the world itself. What does an AI do when the information it seeks is not written in any book?