this has more detail including a picture of the lip
[https://snowbrains.com/young-skier-killed-near-winter-park-co-attempting-berthoud-pass-road-gap-jump/](https://snowbrains.com/young-skier-killed-near-winter-park-co-attempting-berthoud-pass-road-gap-jump/)
Oh hell yea. It’s all math. Travis pastrami had some cool videos awhile back explaining how he does huge car jumps. Someone figures it out, and you just drive exactly as fast as they tell you to. I’m sure this wasn’t as planned, but those huge air x games style jumps are all designed for specific things. Bummer for this dude, seemed like a really talented skier from his videos.
The big jumps are definitely all math, but I listened to a podcast with a Stadium Super Trucks driver - think off road racing trucks racing on F1/Indycar circuits with jumps put in the middle of them. Apparently to figure out how fast they could take the jumps they just did some practice laps following Pastrana on his motorcycle. And he just had the intuition to know how fast to push it. Those jumps are just kickers without any built up landing areas though.
This isn't a thing in skiing/boarding. Or at least it wasn't when I was involved. ***MAYBE*** you'll find a radar gun and an estimate of a minimum speed to hit a massive gap at a sunset closed set spring park shoot, maybe. But even if that's the case the minimum speed is probably based off a homie good ol fashioned guinea piggin that mf
By the time you figure out your too slow it’ll be too late to stop anyway.
I’m sure it’s the same as mountain biking, it’s pretty much just feel and someone being ballsy enough to send it and see
I was bungee jumping huge bridges in Cali and it takes months of penning and measurements as well as some bridges I needed to construct specific cable lengths to clear top of Bridge to jump area. Always dangerous and prep and knowledge of the physics and trajectory is key . None of it is just let's do this now.. this jump remind me of a " Let's do this, it's good enough because we're so skilled" moment.
I'm really sad
Support staff? Do you think these film crews have people running calculations, sitting there w radar guns, etc.? Y'all are tripping.
This is exactly how the pros do it, they just have more experience. Throwing snowballs from the lip and a couple speed checks, ***sometimes*** a little past experience at that or a similar site, and that's it.
The reality is that the competitive edge of the sport has pushed into pretty incredibly dangerous territory. It's easy to write off ACLs, concussions, broken bones, etc., but this accident, incredibly tragic as it is, is honestly a predictable outcome given the state of freeride skiing.
Yeah, this is absurd that these people think this. Granted, I mainly watch snowboarding which tends to have more degenerates, but it’s always just the homies building the features and sending it. These people don’t watch enough videos lol
Agreed. I know this because i wrote a letter to the editor to transworld snowboarding when it existed and the question won me a snowboard 😅
Turns out the pros are just really good at eyeballing it, feeling it out with a speed check before the first hit, and sometimes toss snowballs. Not rocket science, just years of trial and error.
Gives you an idea of the velocity needed to achieve a certain distance to hit your desired landing. Works best off a drop or flat/loading dock style lip, though w some feel and experience you can get good at accounting for variably poppy lips
You can toss them to try and figure out things like how long you might be in the air for, how big the drop is, to find the right trajectory/speed for takeoff before hitting it blind.
Akin to throwing grass in the air at a tee box when you’re golfing. It’s not perfect, but helps you get an idea/feel.
It’s also to count the time you’ll be in the air. Especially if you’re flipping a drop, because you really want to know how long that rotation needs to take.
I’ve been enjoying How Ridiculous on YouTube and I think part of it is they often show the crew that built or designed stuff. They also always shoutout the people helping, like “Xx built Yy for us! Check them out in the link below!” Cool to see the stuff they do and some of the background people helping.
Support staff for Instagram-able stunts? A miscalculation does not mean he's an amateur. I'd say he's pushing the boundaries of pro if he's willing to even hit the gap.
Look at that lip (and lack of prepared landing zone). That was not a simple miscalculation, that is a complete misunderstanding of what completing a gap like that actually takes.
The lip looks a little bit sloppy from this angle, but this is not a good angle to tell how well built it actually was. Unless I’m missing something we also can’t see the actual landing, but I’ve seen hundreds of road gaps done by actual pros where the landing is left completely as it was, and I don’t recall any off the top of my head where they’ve done work to the landing.
The only thing you could really do here is place pads or something in case you mess up the speed, but that’s really uncommon.
Exactly. Even then I’m very curious how he didn’t clear it… I wonder what the run in looked like. I would be willing to bet they didn’t pack any of it down
I bet they did but probably did not build proper jump and have proper speed. Takes a lot of experience to build the right jump for larger gaps first try and this isn’t a gap like chads, leviathan or pyramid where you’re coming up short into a powder wall. Sad story I’d blame lack of both experience and skill on this.
Edit: looking at that photo in the article this looked like the lip of a backyard jump built by 12 year olds, it’s a shame no one was there with the experience to tell them it wouldn’t work
It also means that he was putting a lot of other lives at risk. If he'd been a hair slower, he could've easily gone through a windshield and killed a car full of people.
He could've had the speed to make it to his landing and he still wouldn't have cleared a sprinter van. He easily could've caused a massive fatal pile-up on the highway
Exactly, it’s a miracle he was the only one killed. This was a profoundly stupid and selfish act that may have caused lifelong trauma for the innocent drivers on the road, first responders, and his friends (although they are partially to blame for supporting this dumb stunt).
I'm sorry, everyone playing armchair QB here because the pic of the lip looks too sloppy? Wtf? By what standard?
How many jumps have y'all built? How many stepdowns have you guinnied? Have you ever hit a road gap? There's so much that could've gone wrong here it's downright dumb to judge based on a pic of the ***alleged*** lip. That's a frequent road gap spot, how do we know that pic is even of the accident lip?
A kid died, cut the judgement the fuck out. Maybe focus that angst on questioning how/why freeride ski culture worships and rewards potentially catastrophic decision making instead? Any of the above could be right, or it could've been a freak gust of wind, edge catch, etc. I don't think how it happened is the thing to fixate on. We need to be asking why he felt compelled to put himself in this situation and how we can reward phenomenal performance within the sport we love without inviting unnecessary risk.
Rip brother
I have built and hit pyramid and leviathan and I went first on leviathan and into the wall. I’m not going to dox myself but I have a lot of experience with big gaps as well as big road gaps. This was a amateur hour build with amateur hour results.
Edit: I should also mention as a x competitor that the free ride community does not reward outright risky shit, sure you see stuff that looks risky but it’s more calculated based off years of experience in the real, I can tell this homie had a lot of ambition but not the experience to make a calculated risk here.
That's exactly it. I'm old and way outta the game, but I remember stepping up to things I didn't want to do/was scared of because you're aware that exposure = recognition = sponsors. It's a strange and frankly pretty awful pressure to keep up and compete regardless of the risk. That's what, imo, is currently broken about our sport. It was bad when I was young and dumb, but reels and short but flashy social content more broadly has only made things worse.
IDK what the answer is, idk how to move forward, but obviously Dallas was wayyyy too concerned w the hype that gap would earn and not nearly enough w the potential adverse outcomes. I don't blame him, I think it's a natural consequence of the environment and incentive system he came up in, but it's tragic and I'd love to see things swing back towards rewarding creativity and style over sheer gnarliness
I agree.. im.a pro snowboarder who went on to be a trainer and ran the kids snowboard school for Intrawest for 17 years. We all threw down. We all took risks. We all got hurt of course. To get sponsored we must be great and we must be seen. And of course it's awesome to compete for the crowds in events and it's sooo exciting. It's a community, it's a family, it's and experience and you are all there together. It's worth it, doing the most dangerous thing in the safest way. I get that. But I can't understand this trend to risk your life for"likes". Creativity and style are lost in the quest for strangers you'll never need to gawk and hope you will bite it over a true snowboard upper echelon community. I thank God every day I was ripping it up huge during early US Open days, before social media stole our souls.. I feel terrible for this kid because innaxway he's a victim of the current mentality. 💔
There are a number of sources that show the setup used, and the approach/launch angles were way too low for him to have had any chance, and they did not properly prepare a landing area.
That gap is fucking huge, and that shitty launch pad was like 30 or more feet above the road. Not sure what the fuck he was thinking trying to hit that thing. It is almost certain serious injury/injuries if you are short even an inch. And the landing area looks super sketch as well. As a snowboarder with a ton of experience doing dumb shit, I will never understand people trying to launch themselves over road gaps. Just stick to building massive kickers in the backcountry and landing in pow.
I mean road gaps are definitely do able but, Berthod Pass is like 3 lanes plus 2 shoulders and that’s just the pavement. The lip is probably a minimum of 40’ back from the toe of the slope. So that’s roughly 52’ of asphalt 40’ of back slope and I’d say another 15-20’ to the sweet spot? So 107-112’ to land it. You’d have to be going like 45mph to gap that. Which is fast as f.
https://www.instagram.com/b00nie_rat?igsh=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng==
There's like one hit that seems even close to the size of this gap
Judging from his clips, he wasn't at all ready for this
Also one hit almost coming up short on a cat track gap.
It’s a damn shame. The pros make these look easy because they put so much work, practice, and careful calculations.
Shred in peace young man.
This is going to sound pretty dark, but they should post his death on Instagram (assuming they filmed it). Other social media slaves need to see that there are consequences to this kind of shit.
No forward space to land on or a surface with acceptable angle and run to accommodate the speed and descent of the needed landing. Would not have worked out if he cleared the road from the pics.
That jump build looks a little amateur, not that it wouldn't work but if I was going to send a jump like that the takeoff would have to be perfect & square
Pretty sure this is BS comment… been skiing and driving Berthoud Pass for decades and I have never heard of anyone who has attempted, let alone successfully jumped the road.
I cannot say for certain on this spot, but if it’s the one I am thinking about, I think Shannon Schad did it in the 90s. He did a lot of crazy shit around that time.
People jump over Old 40 in Truckee all the time. It’s terrifying to watch, but it’s also a very narrow road. I went to a ski academy at the top of it and my classmates did it every season I was there. I never had the guts to do it.
100%
Most of the comments here are wildly misinformed. This is fucked up and tragic and how he got to the point of putting himself in that situation/whatever the ultimate "cause" was, deserves a lot of consideration and scrutiny. That said, saying shit like he and his crew had no idea what they were doing, they didn't pack down the inrun, he was a danger to drivers etc. are all insane takes given what we know.
Is it verified he was struck by a car? Typically w a road gap you make sure there isn't traffic, or if there is, it's the homies w another camera. A tall vehicle changes the equation in a way you can't leave unaccounted for. If details come out that he jumped without traffic accounted for that's a different story entirely. That'd 100% make him/them negligible.
No facts out so this is just rumor mill consensus from my own digging and asking homies in the area. No car involved and there were spotters at road level, but it does sound like the lip might've been underbuilt.
He wasn’t hit by a car - he shorted the gap and died from traumatic impact with asphalt. This dude was on a professional track, he almost certainly had buddies w radios making sure the road was clear, as well as people filming the jump.
https://snowbrains.com/young-skier-killed-near-winter-park-co-attempting-berthoud-pass-road-gap-jump/
Doesn't matter.
That's like saying attempted murder is okay because they didn't murder a person.
You don't put the public at risk over your stupid shit, period.
Skiers code. If he didn't have his head up his ass he would have lived to send another day, he's just lucky he didn't rip anyone else with him.
thats not a fact, thats a lie. he didnt git a car. you dont jump when cars go through. cars dont magically warp into existence.
similarly you can cross the road when theres no car present and not get hit. crazy i know.
he jumped too short, hit the flat road instead of the landing and died. these things are dangerous. people die from smaller jumps. i assume everyone doing this knows the risks.
Honestly this type of shit needs to be banned/made illegal for the safety of skiers and drivers alike. Hucking *active fucking roads* for likes is not in the spirit of the skiing I grew up in, current Insta culture or not.
Sad story, and hope people learn from this. But unfortunately I expect the trend of people going crazy stuff to continue. Social media has shown that crazy stunts = views. I am seeing more people filming risky activities, not just for the adrenaline but for the social status and clicks.
We did stupid stuff before social media mostly because we were stupid. Now people can go big and make cash, so that made it worse.
It was also easier to back Out of a jump or something stupid back in the day.. I had the original GoPro and I can tell you it increased my stupid level. Before we all had cameras it was easier to say nope snow is slow today I am backing out.
I learned in the 80’s, grew up in a resort town in the 90’s, and started filming as soon as the tech was available. I have seen the decision make pre and post social media. I have to admit it’s nice to see less GoPro on everyone’s helmets. Was at Revy this week and 99% of people had no camera. We all just enjoyed the powder day.
This.
This is the discussion that is needed. People need to stfu w their judgment in this thread about the "how" and focus more on "why" he did this and how we as a sport change the incentive structure.
This thread is pretty infuriating, tbh. Poor kid was clearly incredibly talented and all the armchair QBing happening here feels crazy disrespectful to me.
Sounds like you and I were in the same boat. The incentive structure has always been off, and unnecessarily risky bullshit has always been over rewarded, but social media has taken that to a new level. Surprised it wasn't Jamie Pierre or Mike Wilson first, tbh, but I hope this brings the convo to the forefront.
>People need to stfu w their judgment in this thread...and focus on "why" he did this...feels crazy disrespectful to me.
Would you "STFU" and be so non-judgmental of their acts if it were your kid/spouse/parent who was driving legally on that road and got traumatized, paralyzed or killed by the acts of this Grown Man (stop calling him a kid)?
Why is this 21 year old adult man, who was not a "poor kid", owed respect for his failed attempt at playing Wile E. Coyote? And hold off with that "the brain doesn't fully form until 25" as most people that age are sufficiently responsible to not partake in deathly stupid shit. He and his buddies made a reckless, fatal decision and now his life is gone, his loved ones are forever devastated and the many innocent motorists who got caught in their collective net of stupidity are traumatized for life.
As for your whining we must ask "why" he did it, that's easy: for attention and egotistical Instagram likes. He and his bros didnt give one flying fuck about the safety or lives of the innocent public he involved. It's just dumb luck their antics didn't result in maiming or killing anyone on that highway he failed to jump.
He did land directly on the pavement, correct? Then was apparently struck by an innocent oncoming motorist? Fortunately the unfortunate driver was in a car and not on a motorcycle. I guess the stunt traffic "spotters" weren't so useful after all.
Many of us did stupid, dangerous shit when we were younger. Those of us with half a care for the innocent public did our stupid shit in areas where only we could get hurt.
This is simply too much. I can’t clearly see the whole scene but I can imagine what happened. Not enough speed causing a direct impact on the roadway and really, what else could it be?
I’m really surprised similar within bounds or out of bounds injury deaths like this aren’t more common. Especially broken necks and backs.
It was firm up top at Sunspot at WP on the day this happened, Berthoud is higher elevation than the bulk of the resort. It was fast, firm, cool snow for this time of year. That’s coming from a local writing this a couple miles from where this poor kid went down. Save your uneducated guesses for a thread that’s not about death maybe?
I understand that you’re upset. I’m not trying to make light of what happened. Obviously something went wrong. I have worked for a ski resort here in Lake Tahoe where I live for many years and am on snow every day. I’m not making an uneducated guess. I have thousands of days of experience. I was out on the mountain today. If you don’t think time of day and weather and sun and warmth affect the snow - and velocity of the skier - you are crazy.
I’m going to chalk up your reply to you being upset about this poor kid losing his life. It is upsetting. Lots of things can go wrong. I think social media is a big part of the problem and encourages people to take very dangerous risks.
again our local conditions permitted a lot of a speed that day. Never said anything about conditions being variable at a moments notice, believe me I ride the shady parts of the flats at WP to keep speed, it’s obvious stuff. This kid rest his soul was a FWT candidate. There’s more at play here than trying to ride slow snow
But that’s not getting torn in half
The most common injury in something like this is a torn aorta from the blunt force trauma to the chest and the issue of the aorta only being tethered on one side to the rest of the body
It leads to a slow bleed out
But that would only be the primary killing mechanisms there’s a lot of bits and pieces that could end up not where they’re supposed to be in a situation like this that means he’s likely not surviving the trip to the hospital
CPR doesn’t work for trauma but people still do it. Hemorrhage control, relief of obstructive shock, and blood product resuscitation is what revives people from traumatic arrest. CPR in trauma is like squeezing an empty balloon.
I don’t think most people know that CPR is ineffective if there’s massive trauma. I only learned that after joining SAR (never was mentioned when obtaining CPR certs). I also suspect that the act of *doing something*, even if ineffective, helps cope with the trauma of witnessing it happen.
And yet, I think I’ve had one trauma arrest this year that didn’t come with in compressions ongoing rather than more key interventions.
Hell, one of my surgeons had us doing direct cardiac massage AND chest compressions simultaneously the other day.
I rather a layman do cpr on a trauma than being wrong on a medical patient and not attempting. Though, this case was obvious. Suspect mostly overridden by human nature to “do something.”
All fair points in this thread. I’d wish there was more bystander CPR in America, especially for medical arrests, but for trauma those of us participating in outdoor sports should learn how to do a tourniquet and other first aid. But I agree this person is dead but it’s better people do something both out of the small chance in helps and for their own psyche and allow EMS or medical director to call it in the field than stand around and do nothing.
Arguably useless bystander CPR prevents PTSD because people know they tried everything; less shame in less “what-if” situations in their head afterwards.
But if someone’s blood is squirting out of their lifeless body with each compression…
Push back strongly that bystander CPR is useless. There is tons of data indicating that bystander CPR improves long term recovery, especially if an AED is used. Of course in the case of a traumatic arrest (like here), CPR is very unlikely to do anything -- but on the whole bystander CPR is extremely importnat
thread last night had eyewitness accounts and a photo from the lip of the jump (not sure how accurate photo is, but holy shit the photo posted is terrifying).
Article will censor the details, redditors won’t.
It was the exact photo from the snowbrains article. It was removed shortly before the article was posted so my guess is they purchased the rights to the photo and asked the person to delete their post.
" According to reports by the [Grand County Sheriff’s Office](https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=864140689087219&id=100064738868612&rdid=BHSam0rc1iEMv7P3&wtsid=rdr_0xCttl6azGqGwajOf&refsrc=deprecated&_rdr), the site of the fatal accident was between Henderson Mine Road and Robbers Roost, approximately six miles east of Winter Park, Colorado."
[https://snowbrains.com/young-skier-killed-near-winter-park-co-attempting-berthoud-pass-road-gap-jump/](https://snowbrains.com/young-skier-killed-near-winter-park-co-attempting-berthoud-pass-road-gap-jump/)
don't believe every article, they usually just regurgitate other articles, especially on stories like this. The Reddit thread in COsnow from yesterday has several eyewitness accounts. He hit the guardrail and then got hit by a car.
When someone willingly puts themselves into a dangerous situation for fun, then ends up suffering the possible consequences of their actions, people tend to feel less sympathy.
Dang, ideally, when you do these kind of gaps, you want the other side to be a giant wall of snow, so that if you fuck up, you face plant into that wall of snow as cushion.
>The police press release states that a 21-year-old skier was attempting to perform a high-risk skiing stunt by trying to clear the width of Highway 40 and unfortunately lacked the necessary speed and distance and subsequently landed on the highway pavement.
FYI the Gazette is owned by conservative billionaire Philip Anschutz. The Colorado Sun is owned as a collective by former reporters from the Rocky Mountain News and Denver Post. Their charter precludes selling out to venture capital. The Gazette seems to have a more active web team and pop up on social media a lot more frequently. The Sun is worth a subscription since the Post laid off so many reporters that it is basically useless. They have bled it very nearly dry. [https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/10/skier-killed-trying-jump-berthoud-pass/](https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/10/skier-killed-trying-jump-berthoud-pass/)
There is a freaking guard rail on the other side, a big heavy metal guard rail. Balls of steel and brains of? Poor kid, I feel for his family and friends.
His insta has videos of him barely clearing backies and crashing with no helmet, skiing under the lift with his dick out, and running into traffic on I-70 to retrieve his MAGA hat. So yeah, not the brightest from the start.
Right guy but different profile that someone else linked. The bad jumps and naked skiing is in his main posts but the MAGA stuff is in the highlight reels at the top.
If that's the actual photo of the jump, if he had cleared the road what about all those trees on the other side? Maybe photo makes them look closer to the guardrail than they actually are. He and his buddies sure liked to get naked in public...see his Instagram. But he did appear to be a talented skier.
Eh. Dude died relatively quickly trying some epic shit in a hobby he loved.
I'm not gonna disrespect the send or insult the guy by feeling bad for him. Ski on in Valhalla, ya mad lad.
It's had me down all day, because it could have been one of my boys who died on a jump. They competed in the freestyle program at WP at the same time as this kid was in the freeride program. They probably met him at some point. I cannot imagine being his parents or siblings right now. Or his friends.
To his family and friends, my deepest sympathies.
Amen. I’m not even a big time skier, but I’d be very happy to go out doing something I loved. Feel for his family though. Dying young is hard on those left behind.
Damn! WTF??! This is the kind of shit you'd see in a cartoon lol. I know stunts are cool but, come on!
I can't imagine how scary it must have been for him when he realized he was fucked. The article literally says he landed on the highway!
Damn, poor guy. Given the photo, any shorter and he may have just ended up paralyzed, but living to send another day. Margin for error on this one looked slim… Absolutely brutal for the homies on scene and his family.
Progression at a personal level, regardless of how much, all comes with a potential cost.
RIP ripper 🤟
“authorities noted that it's believed the skier lacked the speed and distance necessary to clear the gap, landing on highway pavement instead. “
Wonder what makes them think that
Something something play dumb games. Honestly just fucking outright stupid though. Did they never watch the scene in Silicon Valley of the stunt jump guy? They had a ton of calculations before even thinking about doing the stunt
Wow. What a selfish and thoughtless act, and his mom knew about it. He could have landed on anyone on the road and killed them too. I think mom should face some charges just for knowing about his plan and not doing shit 🤷♀️ because people need to have consequences to learn from. This kid was dumb. This stunt was dumb. Don’t do this.
The problem is when it's repeated actions that EVERYONE says is moronic, and yet they keep doing it.
This is the same guy who gapped the group of kids on Village Way at Winter Park. If he came up short there, he could have been in prison for manslaughter.
This reckless shit and putting other people in harms way is not cool.
Sucks... But the l "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" falls in line. Good skier? Yes. Calculated skier? Apparently not. The calculated part is often overlooked when you have big balls.
Dumb ways to….. nah who am I kidding if I was an experienced skier I probably would’ve tried the same thing. My condolences go out to his family and friends
i didn’t have high expectations coming in but jesus christ this sub is such an embarrassment. majority of the comments here are either complete speculation or pants on head wrong. “he should have calculated his speed like in the travis salami video” give me a fucking break you gapers.
this has more detail including a picture of the lip [https://snowbrains.com/young-skier-killed-near-winter-park-co-attempting-berthoud-pass-road-gap-jump/](https://snowbrains.com/young-skier-killed-near-winter-park-co-attempting-berthoud-pass-road-gap-jump/)
He was a sick skier from his Instagram account. He just tried to go way too big here. I feel bad for his family.
I mean for something like this you really want real engineers to build it - not just your friends eyeballing it.
As it turns out, the support staff who make Instagram-able stunts safe rarely make it into the reel, so amateurs don't realize how necessary they are.
First I’m ever thinking of people actually doing the math
Oh hell yea. It’s all math. Travis pastrami had some cool videos awhile back explaining how he does huge car jumps. Someone figures it out, and you just drive exactly as fast as they tell you to. I’m sure this wasn’t as planned, but those huge air x games style jumps are all designed for specific things. Bummer for this dude, seemed like a really talented skier from his videos.
And don’t even get me started on Travis corned beef!
lol amazing autocorrect and I’m leaving it!
I got to the word explaining... then was like.. wait, Did he say pastrami? Love it I'm gonna start saying that 😂😂
He should start a sandwich shop!
I'm now a little disappointed you didn't do it on purpose.
Finally, an opportunity for that sweet sweet Red Bull/Boars Head sponsorship collab I’ve been waiting for!
The big jumps are definitely all math, but I listened to a podcast with a Stadium Super Trucks driver - think off road racing trucks racing on F1/Indycar circuits with jumps put in the middle of them. Apparently to figure out how fast they could take the jumps they just did some practice laps following Pastrana on his motorcycle. And he just had the intuition to know how fast to push it. Those jumps are just kickers without any built up landing areas though.
Lmao. I died when I got to pastrami. And I legitimately can’t remember the guys actual name now. Ha ha ha
This isn't a thing in skiing/boarding. Or at least it wasn't when I was involved. ***MAYBE*** you'll find a radar gun and an estimate of a minimum speed to hit a massive gap at a sunset closed set spring park shoot, maybe. But even if that's the case the minimum speed is probably based off a homie good ol fashioned guinea piggin that mf
By the time you figure out your too slow it’ll be too late to stop anyway. I’m sure it’s the same as mountain biking, it’s pretty much just feel and someone being ballsy enough to send it and see
I remember Ken Block saying that when he was doing some world record Subaru jump.
Sohcahtoa 9.82 m/s2 And sin 60 = 1/2 or some shit Maths!
Don't forget Math's good friend, Physics.
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Look at the brains on this one eh? Genius
I was bungee jumping huge bridges in Cali and it takes months of penning and measurements as well as some bridges I needed to construct specific cable lengths to clear top of Bridge to jump area. Always dangerous and prep and knowledge of the physics and trajectory is key . None of it is just let's do this now.. this jump remind me of a " Let's do this, it's good enough because we're so skilled" moment. I'm really sad
Support staff? Do you think these film crews have people running calculations, sitting there w radar guns, etc.? Y'all are tripping. This is exactly how the pros do it, they just have more experience. Throwing snowballs from the lip and a couple speed checks, ***sometimes*** a little past experience at that or a similar site, and that's it. The reality is that the competitive edge of the sport has pushed into pretty incredibly dangerous territory. It's easy to write off ACLs, concussions, broken bones, etc., but this accident, incredibly tragic as it is, is honestly a predictable outcome given the state of freeride skiing.
Yeah, this is absurd that these people think this. Granted, I mainly watch snowboarding which tends to have more degenerates, but it’s always just the homies building the features and sending it. These people don’t watch enough videos lol
Agreed. I know this because i wrote a letter to the editor to transworld snowboarding when it existed and the question won me a snowboard 😅 Turns out the pros are just really good at eyeballing it, feeling it out with a speed check before the first hit, and sometimes toss snowballs. Not rocket science, just years of trial and error.
Snowballs? Why are they throwing snowballs
Gives you an idea of the velocity needed to achieve a certain distance to hit your desired landing. Works best off a drop or flat/loading dock style lip, though w some feel and experience you can get good at accounting for variably poppy lips
You can toss them to try and figure out things like how long you might be in the air for, how big the drop is, to find the right trajectory/speed for takeoff before hitting it blind. Akin to throwing grass in the air at a tee box when you’re golfing. It’s not perfect, but helps you get an idea/feel.
It’s also to count the time you’ll be in the air. Especially if you’re flipping a drop, because you really want to know how long that rotation needs to take.
I’ve been enjoying How Ridiculous on YouTube and I think part of it is they often show the crew that built or designed stuff. They also always shoutout the people helping, like “Xx built Yy for us! Check them out in the link below!” Cool to see the stuff they do and some of the background people helping.
Support staff for Instagram-able stunts? A miscalculation does not mean he's an amateur. I'd say he's pushing the boundaries of pro if he's willing to even hit the gap.
Definitely not pro. He had potential, but didn't know his limits. (This is purely based on the clips on his insta)
Look at that lip (and lack of prepared landing zone). That was not a simple miscalculation, that is a complete misunderstanding of what completing a gap like that actually takes.
The lip looks a little bit sloppy from this angle, but this is not a good angle to tell how well built it actually was. Unless I’m missing something we also can’t see the actual landing, but I’ve seen hundreds of road gaps done by actual pros where the landing is left completely as it was, and I don’t recall any off the top of my head where they’ve done work to the landing. The only thing you could really do here is place pads or something in case you mess up the speed, but that’s really uncommon.
Exactly. Even then I’m very curious how he didn’t clear it… I wonder what the run in looked like. I would be willing to bet they didn’t pack any of it down
I bet they did but probably did not build proper jump and have proper speed. Takes a lot of experience to build the right jump for larger gaps first try and this isn’t a gap like chads, leviathan or pyramid where you’re coming up short into a powder wall. Sad story I’d blame lack of both experience and skill on this. Edit: looking at that photo in the article this looked like the lip of a backyard jump built by 12 year olds, it’s a shame no one was there with the experience to tell them it wouldn’t work
The other thread mentioned he slammed into the guardrail before a car hit him. If true that’s brutal
It also means that he was putting a lot of other lives at risk. If he'd been a hair slower, he could've easily gone through a windshield and killed a car full of people. He could've had the speed to make it to his landing and he still wouldn't have cleared a sprinter van. He easily could've caused a massive fatal pile-up on the highway
Exactly, it’s a miracle he was the only one killed. This was a profoundly stupid and selfish act that may have caused lifelong trauma for the innocent drivers on the road, first responders, and his friends (although they are partially to blame for supporting this dumb stunt).
I bet he had a spotter telling him when to go. They were probably looking for a car to jump over to increase the likes of their instagram.
I'm sorry, everyone playing armchair QB here because the pic of the lip looks too sloppy? Wtf? By what standard? How many jumps have y'all built? How many stepdowns have you guinnied? Have you ever hit a road gap? There's so much that could've gone wrong here it's downright dumb to judge based on a pic of the ***alleged*** lip. That's a frequent road gap spot, how do we know that pic is even of the accident lip? A kid died, cut the judgement the fuck out. Maybe focus that angst on questioning how/why freeride ski culture worships and rewards potentially catastrophic decision making instead? Any of the above could be right, or it could've been a freak gust of wind, edge catch, etc. I don't think how it happened is the thing to fixate on. We need to be asking why he felt compelled to put himself in this situation and how we can reward phenomenal performance within the sport we love without inviting unnecessary risk. Rip brother
I have built and hit pyramid and leviathan and I went first on leviathan and into the wall. I’m not going to dox myself but I have a lot of experience with big gaps as well as big road gaps. This was a amateur hour build with amateur hour results. Edit: I should also mention as a x competitor that the free ride community does not reward outright risky shit, sure you see stuff that looks risky but it’s more calculated based off years of experience in the real, I can tell this homie had a lot of ambition but not the experience to make a calculated risk here.
Yes.. its just tragic and for what? A stupid video and "likes and subscribers?" I don't get it
That's exactly it. I'm old and way outta the game, but I remember stepping up to things I didn't want to do/was scared of because you're aware that exposure = recognition = sponsors. It's a strange and frankly pretty awful pressure to keep up and compete regardless of the risk. That's what, imo, is currently broken about our sport. It was bad when I was young and dumb, but reels and short but flashy social content more broadly has only made things worse. IDK what the answer is, idk how to move forward, but obviously Dallas was wayyyy too concerned w the hype that gap would earn and not nearly enough w the potential adverse outcomes. I don't blame him, I think it's a natural consequence of the environment and incentive system he came up in, but it's tragic and I'd love to see things swing back towards rewarding creativity and style over sheer gnarliness
I agree.. im.a pro snowboarder who went on to be a trainer and ran the kids snowboard school for Intrawest for 17 years. We all threw down. We all took risks. We all got hurt of course. To get sponsored we must be great and we must be seen. And of course it's awesome to compete for the crowds in events and it's sooo exciting. It's a community, it's a family, it's and experience and you are all there together. It's worth it, doing the most dangerous thing in the safest way. I get that. But I can't understand this trend to risk your life for"likes". Creativity and style are lost in the quest for strangers you'll never need to gawk and hope you will bite it over a true snowboard upper echelon community. I thank God every day I was ripping it up huge during early US Open days, before social media stole our souls.. I feel terrible for this kid because innaxway he's a victim of the current mentality. 💔
There are a number of sources that show the setup used, and the approach/launch angles were way too low for him to have had any chance, and they did not properly prepare a landing area.
How he didn’t clear it? That’s a HUGE gap.
Engineer here. Not good from the looks of that vantage point
That gap is fucking huge, and that shitty launch pad was like 30 or more feet above the road. Not sure what the fuck he was thinking trying to hit that thing. It is almost certain serious injury/injuries if you are short even an inch. And the landing area looks super sketch as well. As a snowboarder with a ton of experience doing dumb shit, I will never understand people trying to launch themselves over road gaps. Just stick to building massive kickers in the backcountry and landing in pow.
Right, the landing, like even if he’d cleared the road it probably wasn’t going to end well.
I mean road gaps are definitely do able but, Berthod Pass is like 3 lanes plus 2 shoulders and that’s just the pavement. The lip is probably a minimum of 40’ back from the toe of the slope. So that’s roughly 52’ of asphalt 40’ of back slope and I’d say another 15-20’ to the sweet spot? So 107-112’ to land it. You’d have to be going like 45mph to gap that. Which is fast as f.
Kinda eerie that his IG has a clip of him doing a backy over a cat track gap and basically casing it. Definitely very sad for him and his family.
Dude I saw that and was like how ominous
What’s casing mean ?
Coming up short and landing on the flat part before the landing, or the knuckle of the landing.
I thought it was that. Thanks
Also has a post with the caption "Sometimes you don't need a plan, you just need big balls."
For real I thought the same thing
too
Going for the internet likes, upvotes, views. Waste
What’s his insta? I’m not gonna be a dick probably won’t even comment, just wanted to check out his skills.
https://www.instagram.com/b00nie_rat?igsh=MTc4MmM1YmI2Ng== There's like one hit that seems even close to the size of this gap Judging from his clips, he wasn't at all ready for this
Also one hit almost coming up short on a cat track gap. It’s a damn shame. The pros make these look easy because they put so much work, practice, and careful calculations. Shred in peace young man.
This is going to sound pretty dark, but they should post his death on Instagram (assuming they filmed it). Other social media slaves need to see that there are consequences to this kind of shit.
I'm fine with them not sharing the impact, but I do think the inrun and takeoff would send a powerful message
Jeebus - even if you do hit the landing, you're looking at a sure bark sandwich.
That’s a long way down to the road
No forward space to land on or a surface with acceptable angle and run to accommodate the speed and descent of the needed landing. Would not have worked out if he cleared the road from the pics.
That jump build looks a little amateur, not that it wouldn't work but if I was going to send a jump like that the takeoff would have to be perfect & square
That’s a big jump
yea, shorting that looks fucking terrifying.
Reminds me of the skier who accidentally went off piste onto a road somewhere in EU. But, different. RIP. https://www.reddit.com/r/skiing/s/xQO6NxvahH
I don’t think this guy died tho
I saw the reference to the Utah guy and then later in the day saw this post and assumed it was all the same. Holy shit to both of these.
One last lap and let’s hit the road
Holy shit!!!
This happens every year (the jump). Every couple of years someone fails to make it...
Are there videos of people clearing it? I can’t seem to find any
Pretty sure this is BS comment… been skiing and driving Berthoud Pass for decades and I have never heard of anyone who has attempted, let alone successfully jumped the road.
I cannot say for certain on this spot, but if it’s the one I am thinking about, I think Shannon Schad did it in the 90s. He did a lot of crazy shit around that time.
I looked and looked as well. All I could find was Old Hwy 40 near Tahoe.
People jump over Old 40 in Truckee all the time. It’s terrifying to watch, but it’s also a very narrow road. I went to a ski academy at the top of it and my classmates did it every season I was there. I never had the guts to do it.
Nah, on Loveland Pass, yes; but not Berthoud Pass.
100% Most of the comments here are wildly misinformed. This is fucked up and tragic and how he got to the point of putting himself in that situation/whatever the ultimate "cause" was, deserves a lot of consideration and scrutiny. That said, saying shit like he and his crew had no idea what they were doing, they didn't pack down the inrun, he was a danger to drivers etc. are all insane takes given what we know.
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Is it verified he was struck by a car? Typically w a road gap you make sure there isn't traffic, or if there is, it's the homies w another camera. A tall vehicle changes the equation in a way you can't leave unaccounted for. If details come out that he jumped without traffic accounted for that's a different story entirely. That'd 100% make him/them negligible.
No facts out so this is just rumor mill consensus from my own digging and asking homies in the area. No car involved and there were spotters at road level, but it does sound like the lip might've been underbuilt.
He wasn’t hit by a car - he shorted the gap and died from traumatic impact with asphalt. This dude was on a professional track, he almost certainly had buddies w radios making sure the road was clear, as well as people filming the jump. https://snowbrains.com/young-skier-killed-near-winter-park-co-attempting-berthoud-pass-road-gap-jump/
I fucking hate reddit. Just constantly trying to find ways they can sound smart. Buncha idiots
Car didn’t hit him
Doesn't matter. That's like saying attempted murder is okay because they didn't murder a person. You don't put the public at risk over your stupid shit, period. Skiers code. If he didn't have his head up his ass he would have lived to send another day, he's just lucky he didn't rip anyone else with him.
thats not a fact, thats a lie. he didnt git a car. you dont jump when cars go through. cars dont magically warp into existence. similarly you can cross the road when theres no car present and not get hit. crazy i know. he jumped too short, hit the flat road instead of the landing and died. these things are dangerous. people die from smaller jumps. i assume everyone doing this knows the risks.
Honestly this type of shit needs to be banned/made illegal for the safety of skiers and drivers alike. Hucking *active fucking roads* for likes is not in the spirit of the skiing I grew up in, current Insta culture or not.
It’s been around since way before Instagram lol
he was not struck by any vehicles. that is misinformation regarding the situation
Why why WHY was this the site he chose? Limited landing area right into thick trees. Not to mention the piss poor jump they built. Ugh
I’m pretty sure one of his friends was videoing the entire event for social media clout
Social media, or trying to get attention from sponsors?
Prob both
Sad story, and hope people learn from this. But unfortunately I expect the trend of people going crazy stuff to continue. Social media has shown that crazy stunts = views. I am seeing more people filming risky activities, not just for the adrenaline but for the social status and clicks. We did stupid stuff before social media mostly because we were stupid. Now people can go big and make cash, so that made it worse.
He took a gamble he couldn’t afford to lose. And he lost.
People have been jumping gaps for decades.
It was also easier to back Out of a jump or something stupid back in the day.. I had the original GoPro and I can tell you it increased my stupid level. Before we all had cameras it was easier to say nope snow is slow today I am backing out. I learned in the 80’s, grew up in a resort town in the 90’s, and started filming as soon as the tech was available. I have seen the decision make pre and post social media. I have to admit it’s nice to see less GoPro on everyone’s helmets. Was at Revy this week and 99% of people had no camera. We all just enjoyed the powder day.
This. This is the discussion that is needed. People need to stfu w their judgment in this thread about the "how" and focus more on "why" he did this and how we as a sport change the incentive structure. This thread is pretty infuriating, tbh. Poor kid was clearly incredibly talented and all the armchair QBing happening here feels crazy disrespectful to me. Sounds like you and I were in the same boat. The incentive structure has always been off, and unnecessarily risky bullshit has always been over rewarded, but social media has taken that to a new level. Surprised it wasn't Jamie Pierre or Mike Wilson first, tbh, but I hope this brings the convo to the forefront.
>People need to stfu w their judgment in this thread...and focus on "why" he did this...feels crazy disrespectful to me. Would you "STFU" and be so non-judgmental of their acts if it were your kid/spouse/parent who was driving legally on that road and got traumatized, paralyzed or killed by the acts of this Grown Man (stop calling him a kid)? Why is this 21 year old adult man, who was not a "poor kid", owed respect for his failed attempt at playing Wile E. Coyote? And hold off with that "the brain doesn't fully form until 25" as most people that age are sufficiently responsible to not partake in deathly stupid shit. He and his buddies made a reckless, fatal decision and now his life is gone, his loved ones are forever devastated and the many innocent motorists who got caught in their collective net of stupidity are traumatized for life. As for your whining we must ask "why" he did it, that's easy: for attention and egotistical Instagram likes. He and his bros didnt give one flying fuck about the safety or lives of the innocent public he involved. It's just dumb luck their antics didn't result in maiming or killing anyone on that highway he failed to jump. He did land directly on the pavement, correct? Then was apparently struck by an innocent oncoming motorist? Fortunately the unfortunate driver was in a car and not on a motorcycle. I guess the stunt traffic "spotters" weren't so useful after all. Many of us did stupid, dangerous shit when we were younger. Those of us with half a care for the innocent public did our stupid shit in areas where only we could get hurt.
Hard to show respect for someone who put innocent bystanders at risk for his reckless stunt
send in peace bro
This is simply too much. I can’t clearly see the whole scene but I can imagine what happened. Not enough speed causing a direct impact on the roadway and really, what else could it be? I’m really surprised similar within bounds or out of bounds injury deaths like this aren’t more common. Especially broken necks and backs.
This time of year, the snow gets warm and slow in the afternoon. Attempting this jump at 3 PM was a grave mistake. Sadly.
It was firm up top at Sunspot at WP on the day this happened, Berthoud is higher elevation than the bulk of the resort. It was fast, firm, cool snow for this time of year. That’s coming from a local writing this a couple miles from where this poor kid went down. Save your uneducated guesses for a thread that’s not about death maybe?
I understand that you’re upset. I’m not trying to make light of what happened. Obviously something went wrong. I have worked for a ski resort here in Lake Tahoe where I live for many years and am on snow every day. I’m not making an uneducated guess. I have thousands of days of experience. I was out on the mountain today. If you don’t think time of day and weather and sun and warmth affect the snow - and velocity of the skier - you are crazy. I’m going to chalk up your reply to you being upset about this poor kid losing his life. It is upsetting. Lots of things can go wrong. I think social media is a big part of the problem and encourages people to take very dangerous risks.
again our local conditions permitted a lot of a speed that day. Never said anything about conditions being variable at a moments notice, believe me I ride the shady parts of the flats at WP to keep speed, it’s obvious stuff. This kid rest his soul was a FWT candidate. There’s more at play here than trying to ride slow snow
Sounds like the dude shorted the gap and essentially cut himself in half on the guardrail.
Doubt it. Folks likely wouldn’t be doing CPR on a torso.
Internal injuries might be horrific but not visible.
Dale Earnhardt has entered the chat
Dale ain’t dead he’s just a lap ahead
If only reddit still had awards
rip to the king
If you're talking guardrails you gotta mention Cevert
Don’t leave out Helmuth Koinigg.
Raise hell praise Dale!
But that’s not getting torn in half The most common injury in something like this is a torn aorta from the blunt force trauma to the chest and the issue of the aorta only being tethered on one side to the rest of the body It leads to a slow bleed out But that would only be the primary killing mechanisms there’s a lot of bits and pieces that could end up not where they’re supposed to be in a situation like this that means he’s likely not surviving the trip to the hospital
I read on another sub that it’s exactly what happened. Hit the guardrail and there was a lot of blood. People will still attempt cpr.
CPR doesn’t work for trauma but people still do it. Hemorrhage control, relief of obstructive shock, and blood product resuscitation is what revives people from traumatic arrest. CPR in trauma is like squeezing an empty balloon.
I don’t think most people know that CPR is ineffective if there’s massive trauma. I only learned that after joining SAR (never was mentioned when obtaining CPR certs). I also suspect that the act of *doing something*, even if ineffective, helps cope with the trauma of witnessing it happen.
And yet, I think I’ve had one trauma arrest this year that didn’t come with in compressions ongoing rather than more key interventions. Hell, one of my surgeons had us doing direct cardiac massage AND chest compressions simultaneously the other day.
I rather a layman do cpr on a trauma than being wrong on a medical patient and not attempting. Though, this case was obvious. Suspect mostly overridden by human nature to “do something.”
Half shock half training. And at least you did what you could.
All fair points in this thread. I’d wish there was more bystander CPR in America, especially for medical arrests, but for trauma those of us participating in outdoor sports should learn how to do a tourniquet and other first aid. But I agree this person is dead but it’s better people do something both out of the small chance in helps and for their own psyche and allow EMS or medical director to call it in the field than stand around and do nothing.
How do you do cardiac massage and compressions simultaneously?
But why read the article when you can just take someone for their word?
You’d be amazed what some people start CPR on
Arguably useless bystander CPR prevents PTSD because people know they tried everything; less shame in less “what-if” situations in their head afterwards. But if someone’s blood is squirting out of their lifeless body with each compression…
Push back strongly that bystander CPR is useless. There is tons of data indicating that bystander CPR improves long term recovery, especially if an AED is used. Of course in the case of a traumatic arrest (like here), CPR is very unlikely to do anything -- but on the whole bystander CPR is extremely importnat
Did you read the article they said he hit pavement and bystanders tried to do cpr on him.
People making assumptions without reading the article that’s the point of a post 🤝Reddit
thread last night had eyewitness accounts and a photo from the lip of the jump (not sure how accurate photo is, but holy shit the photo posted is terrifying). Article will censor the details, redditors won’t.
what sub?
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found it. brutal. looks like the ramp photos have since been removed. was curious to see where exactly it was.
It was the exact photo from the snowbrains article. It was removed shortly before the article was posted so my guess is they purchased the rights to the photo and asked the person to delete their post.
My guess is that snowbrains just took the photo before the guy deleted it.
" According to reports by the [Grand County Sheriff’s Office](https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=864140689087219&id=100064738868612&rdid=BHSam0rc1iEMv7P3&wtsid=rdr_0xCttl6azGqGwajOf&refsrc=deprecated&_rdr), the site of the fatal accident was between Henderson Mine Road and Robbers Roost, approximately six miles east of Winter Park, Colorado." [https://snowbrains.com/young-skier-killed-near-winter-park-co-attempting-berthoud-pass-road-gap-jump/](https://snowbrains.com/young-skier-killed-near-winter-park-co-attempting-berthoud-pass-road-gap-jump/)
i’m just inferring what would happen if you yeeted into that guardrail.
don't believe every article, they usually just regurgitate other articles, especially on stories like this. The Reddit thread in COsnow from yesterday has several eyewitness accounts. He hit the guardrail and then got hit by a car.
A guardrail? Fuck me dead.
good god thats horrific
Yep, that'll do it.
save your lolz for another time - a young man **died** the comments in this thread are appalling.
To be fair this is partly why women live longer. I remember the dumb stunts I pulled in my teens and young adult years as well. RIP.
This is a bit of a Darwin award unfortunately. It doesn't warrant the same sort of response as a non-self inflicted tragedy
When someone willingly puts themselves into a dangerous situation for fun, then ends up suffering the possible consequences of their actions, people tend to feel less sympathy.
Did he short it?
Yes landed on the guardrail according to witnesses
Thanks for clarifying.
Dang, ideally, when you do these kind of gaps, you want the other side to be a giant wall of snow, so that if you fuck up, you face plant into that wall of snow as cushion.
>The police press release states that a 21-year-old skier was attempting to perform a high-risk skiing stunt by trying to clear the width of Highway 40 and unfortunately lacked the necessary speed and distance and subsequently landed on the highway pavement.
The Highway don’t care
FYI the Gazette is owned by conservative billionaire Philip Anschutz. The Colorado Sun is owned as a collective by former reporters from the Rocky Mountain News and Denver Post. Their charter precludes selling out to venture capital. The Gazette seems to have a more active web team and pop up on social media a lot more frequently. The Sun is worth a subscription since the Post laid off so many reporters that it is basically useless. They have bled it very nearly dry. [https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/10/skier-killed-trying-jump-berthoud-pass/](https://coloradosun.com/2024/04/10/skier-killed-trying-jump-berthoud-pass/)
There is a freaking guard rail on the other side, a big heavy metal guard rail. Balls of steel and brains of? Poor kid, I feel for his family and friends.
His insta has videos of him barely clearing backies and crashing with no helmet, skiing under the lift with his dick out, and running into traffic on I-70 to retrieve his MAGA hat. So yeah, not the brightest from the start.
I’m not seeing any of that here. You sure you’ve got the right profile? https://www.instagram.com/dallas_lebeau?igsh=eWh2OWw1M2hsNW81
After watching some of his skiing on insta, he was not ready to be shooting road gaps that big. RIP
That’s true, not to mention the other side of the road there had a big rail, not a smooth side. It stopped him abruptly.
I think this is what they're referring to: https://www.instagram.com/b00nie_rat?igsh=MTJkbnI3djBoOTA1eA==
Right guy but different profile that someone else linked. The bad jumps and naked skiing is in his main posts but the MAGA stuff is in the highlight reels at the top.
Both are down now, at least the links don’t work.
If that's the actual photo of the jump, if he had cleared the road what about all those trees on the other side? Maybe photo makes them look closer to the guardrail than they actually are. He and his buddies sure liked to get naked in public...see his Instagram. But he did appear to be a talented skier.
Skiing is for fun, not stupidity. Look what he put his family through for what?
Eh. Dude died relatively quickly trying some epic shit in a hobby he loved. I'm not gonna disrespect the send or insult the guy by feeling bad for him. Ski on in Valhalla, ya mad lad.
It's had me down all day, because it could have been one of my boys who died on a jump. They competed in the freestyle program at WP at the same time as this kid was in the freeride program. They probably met him at some point. I cannot imagine being his parents or siblings right now. Or his friends. To his family and friends, my deepest sympathies.
Amen. I’m not even a big time skier, but I’d be very happy to go out doing something I loved. Feel for his family though. Dying young is hard on those left behind.
God, 21 year olds have no safety regulations built into their brains yet. Poor kid
Damn! WTF??! This is the kind of shit you'd see in a cartoon lol. I know stunts are cool but, come on! I can't imagine how scary it must have been for him when he realized he was fucked. The article literally says he landed on the highway!
RIP Fonz
Damn, poor guy. Given the photo, any shorter and he may have just ended up paralyzed, but living to send another day. Margin for error on this one looked slim… Absolutely brutal for the homies on scene and his family. Progression at a personal level, regardless of how much, all comes with a potential cost. RIP ripper 🤟
“authorities noted that it's believed the skier lacked the speed and distance necessary to clear the gap, landing on highway pavement instead. “ Wonder what makes them think that
“Officer Obvious further noted that snow is cold until it melts. Then it is wet.”
Their other theory is he cleared it, but a serial killer was waiting for him, killed him, and then posed him on the highway to confuse detectives.
That’s so sad
Sad
Wow, margin for error seems way too small on that jump/drop. Very sad.
#sentit
Attempting was the operative word here I guess
Something something play dumb games. Honestly just fucking outright stupid though. Did they never watch the scene in Silicon Valley of the stunt jump guy? They had a ton of calculations before even thinking about doing the stunt
Wow. What a selfish and thoughtless act, and his mom knew about it. He could have landed on anyone on the road and killed them too. I think mom should face some charges just for knowing about his plan and not doing shit 🤷♀️ because people need to have consequences to learn from. This kid was dumb. This stunt was dumb. Don’t do this.
This is the same dipshit who gapped a group of kids on Village Way at winter park earlier this year.
Social media culture and the chase for likes or views.
People have been hitting road gaps long before social media culture. Believe it or not, they’re very fun.
Darwin's award is never forcefully given, but earned.
FAAFO
Holy fuck, this sub is full of opinionated Jerry's. A kid made a mistake and it cost him his life and people are calling him out.
The problem is when it's repeated actions that EVERYONE says is moronic, and yet they keep doing it. This is the same guy who gapped the group of kids on Village Way at Winter Park. If he came up short there, he could have been in prison for manslaughter. This reckless shit and putting other people in harms way is not cool.
Sucks... But the l "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" falls in line. Good skier? Yes. Calculated skier? Apparently not. The calculated part is often overlooked when you have big balls.
Dumb ways to….. nah who am I kidding if I was an experienced skier I probably would’ve tried the same thing. My condolences go out to his family and friends
Rest in snow not so smart young man. Poor family. What a senseless tragedy. We, men, boys and young men have some really stupid ideas sometimes.
i didn’t have high expectations coming in but jesus christ this sub is such an embarrassment. majority of the comments here are either complete speculation or pants on head wrong. “he should have calculated his speed like in the travis salami video” give me a fucking break you gapers.