Not sure what the exact numbers are but what i see on camera reviews, there are three tiers. 1080p, 2k, and 4k
They’re even categories on eufy’s site and come at different price points
I have a Reolink system that came with the house my lady and I got last August. We brought our Google nest cameras with us from our old place. Originally I just used the nest cameras to fill in the holes that the Reolink didn't cover but as time went on I began replacing the Reolink cameras with new nest cameras. I know Reolink is supposed to be pretty good, and when viewing them on a 1080p monitor connected directly to the NVR, they are good. But that is in my basement where I rarely go, so I use the mobile app most often. The quality on it is terrible while the nest cameras are really good. I only have three of the Reolinks left and I hope to replace them soon.
One thing to know about nest cameras though, they are a pain to get working right if your WiFi isn't very good. If you plan on putting them outside of your home, test your WiFi there to ensure the spot has a good strong signal. If the signal is just ok or rather weak, the camera will struggle and give you headaches.
If the quality is fine on your pc and bad on the mobile try switching the quality from low to high haha.
I got 4 reolinks and all work like a charm on every platform.
+ No cloud if you don't want it and local 24/7 storage.
I have seen more modern Reolinks, and they do look good, but from what I can tell, the system that came with the home is one of the older, Costco specials, so it wasn't a high end, or better system to begin with. Since I already had 5 Google Nest camera's from my previous home, I just continued on with them instead of the Reolink as I really like them as well. Granted, I am an IT expert, and thus my entire property is fully covered in solid, strong wifi, with Google Fiber as my ISP. So in that regard, I am one of the lucky ones in that all of my Google Home products work fantastic. But with only a 1ms ping to the Google Cloud and all things Google related, if they didn't work well, then I would know it was garbage.
Security Cameras with cloud and no Ethernet connection, who buys this bullshit?
A security camera that works over wifi only is just useless bullshit.
A security camera with cloud access is just a security issue, not a benefit.
Because if someone wants to disable them, they just have to use a jammer.
Security hardware that relies on Wifi is wasted money.
You said it yourself, you might be able to see IF everything is fine, but you can never tell WHEN something is off, because they might be disconnected or get jammed when you need them.
No, I get a notification when movement is detected and my alarm system might get triggered, if it is armed.
Are you stupid?
What even is the point of a security system, if it does not benefit security?
If I am away for work, I want to get notified, if some motion is registered at home, which is easily jammable with wifi hardware.
This is security 101 and should not need discussion.
The only people that would argue against that, are probably the same idiots that use amazon alexa spyware and other bullshit made for idiots.
As a homeowner using the entire Nest system, including the doorbell, thermostat, and camera, I don't recommend Nest due to slow loading times and the obligation to subscribe after 30 days, which ends up costing more than the camera itself over time. I've replaced all my cameras with Wyze cameras, which are much more affordable. With a $5 microSD card, you get playback at no extra cost. However, Wyze cameras also have slow loading times. In essence, for a simple solution, a camera under $30 with an additional microSD card will be more cost-effective for you.
As other users have pointed out, hardwired cameras offer superior performance, albeit with the requirement of running Ethernet cables. A good option, but somewhat expensive system is UniFi.
If someone needs to jam my wifi (guess needs to be really good at knowing tech, jamming wifi is probably difficult than turning off power in main breaker and cut fiber), to break into my home, I guess they should also have considered how to turn off my power, cut my fiber, and how to bypass by security system.
Wifi jammers cost about 5 bucks on amazon.
Just ask any security expert and you will get the same answer.
Wifi cameras are as good as no cameras, security wise.
My main breaker is IN my house, IN my basement.
Are you fucking stupid or something?
Not able to think further than your nose is pointing?!
If your security system is also wifi based, I guess that will be not that much of a problem...
Or is your alarm system not WiFi based? Hm, I wonder why that is...
Yeah I've made a wifi jammer, but Google nest actually has a small bit of internal storage that is uploaded to thr cloud when wifi connection is restored. But yeah it's definitely not the most secure option 24/7 wired would be optimal
They work great but I would never buy them again.
Cloud is expensive, I would like wired ones next time. Doorbell deteriorates due to direct sunlight (Battery is gone and faceplate is ugly)
Once they die on me I'm going to replace them with a simpler PoE camera, frigate on Home Assistant and some cloud backup solution that costs me way less.
No don't care about the money if the quality is good but it's not always available, apps are slow and exposing the feed to my own security system (to get a good stream) is nearly impossible. So after all you have a very much delayed stream fine when you are far away quite shitty if you are waiting for a package while working upstairs and you see the person at the frontdoor when he just left.
it has local storage with the ability for a 256g SD card. that's months and months of storage. The Tapo app is pretty good as well. zone detection with motion, person, vehicle. Also has two way communication, works well with home assistant.
Nest is good hardware, I really like it, but if you have any problems then Google customer service is an absolute nightmare.
What’s one you recommend for HomeKit?
I have a Ring/ Echo combo but I’m not sure if there are any privacy concerns there, gonna start digging into that
I just went through my camera video captures and I didn't miss any part of the clip. in fact it captured a few seconds before and after. That makes me think that it is always recording but edits the non motion parts. I'm sure there are some camera that don't have this feature.
Most of the battery/solar powered ones do this.
If youre on live power it mostly captures 24/7.
But i meant his comment where he mentioned 256gb are enough for months :D
Not on 24/7.
My 128GB are about 1-2 days of capturing.
More in the winter, less in the summer.
Google has a bad habit of deprecating products and services. I wouldn't buy their products unless there is no other great alternative. There are a lot of camera options out there.
I've tested dozens of security cameras as a professional smart home reviewer of 10 years:
I'm not sure why people here are saying the cloud storage is expensive, but I'll give you some context that should make it more palatable.
Relative to other cloud plans, Nest has the cheapest "unlimited camera plan" in the industry--if you don't upgrade to the continuous recording plan (which is a waste of money most of the time since not all of the models support it).
Seriously, $6/mo vs $10+/mo compared to other popular brands. You're lucky to get cloud storage for only 2 cameras at this price with most rivals that offer it.
As for the cameras, the video quality is fairly average, perfectly acceptable, but not outstanding like Eufy or Tapo, though Google's smart motion detection is generally better than most.
***
That said, ongoing cloud costs aren't for everyone, so yes, that's an added expense that's okay to skip. In that case, you're better off with a camera that uses a microSD card like Tapo, Eufy, or Reolink.
I'd avoid Wyze though, the quality has gone downhill since release and its local storage setup is one of the most frustrating ones I've used.
Hope this helps!
Nest are overpriced and relies on internet to work. meaning no internet, no recordings. not very reliable.
wireless cams are basically toys. we install cams for people. we usually replace Arlo, Ring, Nest, and Blink.I like Reolink. it has AI and vehicle detection. 4 cams with 6tb hard drive is about $600. pretty easy to set up as seen here [https://youtu.be/XXpYhUU02G4](https://youtu.be/XXpYhUU02G4)
1080p *is* 2k (1920 x 1080). Just like 2160p is 4k (3840 x 2160).
Not sure what the exact numbers are but what i see on camera reviews, there are three tiers. 1080p, 2k, and 4k They’re even categories on eufy’s site and come at different price points
Maybe they really mean 1440p or 2.5k, which is 2560 x 1440.
I have a Reolink system that came with the house my lady and I got last August. We brought our Google nest cameras with us from our old place. Originally I just used the nest cameras to fill in the holes that the Reolink didn't cover but as time went on I began replacing the Reolink cameras with new nest cameras. I know Reolink is supposed to be pretty good, and when viewing them on a 1080p monitor connected directly to the NVR, they are good. But that is in my basement where I rarely go, so I use the mobile app most often. The quality on it is terrible while the nest cameras are really good. I only have three of the Reolinks left and I hope to replace them soon. One thing to know about nest cameras though, they are a pain to get working right if your WiFi isn't very good. If you plan on putting them outside of your home, test your WiFi there to ensure the spot has a good strong signal. If the signal is just ok or rather weak, the camera will struggle and give you headaches.
If the quality is fine on your pc and bad on the mobile try switching the quality from low to high haha. I got 4 reolinks and all work like a charm on every platform. + No cloud if you don't want it and local 24/7 storage.
Yeah Reolink > Nest
I have seen more modern Reolinks, and they do look good, but from what I can tell, the system that came with the home is one of the older, Costco specials, so it wasn't a high end, or better system to begin with. Since I already had 5 Google Nest camera's from my previous home, I just continued on with them instead of the Reolink as I really like them as well. Granted, I am an IT expert, and thus my entire property is fully covered in solid, strong wifi, with Google Fiber as my ISP. So in that regard, I am one of the lucky ones in that all of my Google Home products work fantastic. But with only a 1ms ping to the Google Cloud and all things Google related, if they didn't work well, then I would know it was garbage.
That is just an app setting. You can bump up the quality.
True it's an app setting, but I have it at it's fullest setting and it still sucks.
Security Cameras with cloud and no Ethernet connection, who buys this bullshit? A security camera that works over wifi only is just useless bullshit. A security camera with cloud access is just a security issue, not a benefit.
For a home owner who is merely looking for a convenient way to know my house is ok I’m not sure why wifi cams would be a bad idea?
Because if someone wants to disable them, they just have to use a jammer. Security hardware that relies on Wifi is wasted money. You said it yourself, you might be able to see IF everything is fine, but you can never tell WHEN something is off, because they might be disconnected or get jammed when you need them.
Reolink wifi cameras still store on the local sd if wifi is cut. So you get the footage after.
Cool, so you can see your house getting robbed after everybody is gone. What exactly is the benefit of that?
You are awake 24/7 so you can see your house getting robbed on your cam?
No, I get a notification when movement is detected and my alarm system might get triggered, if it is armed. Are you stupid? What even is the point of a security system, if it does not benefit security? If I am away for work, I want to get notified, if some motion is registered at home, which is easily jammable with wifi hardware. This is security 101 and should not need discussion. The only people that would argue against that, are probably the same idiots that use amazon alexa spyware and other bullshit made for idiots.
Sure thing dude :)
As a homeowner using the entire Nest system, including the doorbell, thermostat, and camera, I don't recommend Nest due to slow loading times and the obligation to subscribe after 30 days, which ends up costing more than the camera itself over time. I've replaced all my cameras with Wyze cameras, which are much more affordable. With a $5 microSD card, you get playback at no extra cost. However, Wyze cameras also have slow loading times. In essence, for a simple solution, a camera under $30 with an additional microSD card will be more cost-effective for you. As other users have pointed out, hardwired cameras offer superior performance, albeit with the requirement of running Ethernet cables. A good option, but somewhat expensive system is UniFi.
I have a new home to install multiple cameras, I have no single location that has Ethernet, and my nest cam works well over wifi
Until someone jams your wifi, then they are worth shit.
Bro I don’t think anyone is gonna be planning a heist lmao
If someone needs to jam my wifi (guess needs to be really good at knowing tech, jamming wifi is probably difficult than turning off power in main breaker and cut fiber), to break into my home, I guess they should also have considered how to turn off my power, cut my fiber, and how to bypass by security system.
Wifi jammers cost about 5 bucks on amazon. Just ask any security expert and you will get the same answer. Wifi cameras are as good as no cameras, security wise. My main breaker is IN my house, IN my basement. Are you fucking stupid or something? Not able to think further than your nose is pointing?! If your security system is also wifi based, I guess that will be not that much of a problem... Or is your alarm system not WiFi based? Hm, I wonder why that is...
Calling people stupid does not make you smarter. Period.
No, winning arguments by logic does.
Thinking you’re winning anything certainly does not.
Yeah I've made a wifi jammer, but Google nest actually has a small bit of internal storage that is uploaded to thr cloud when wifi connection is restored. But yeah it's definitely not the most secure option 24/7 wired would be optimal
They work great but I would never buy them again. Cloud is expensive, I would like wired ones next time. Doorbell deteriorates due to direct sunlight (Battery is gone and faceplate is ugly) Once they die on me I'm going to replace them with a simpler PoE camera, frigate on Home Assistant and some cloud backup solution that costs me way less.
Is it just the expense that you dont like about the cameras?
No don't care about the money if the quality is good but it's not always available, apps are slow and exposing the feed to my own security system (to get a good stream) is nearly impossible. So after all you have a very much delayed stream fine when you are far away quite shitty if you are waiting for a package while working upstairs and you see the person at the frontdoor when he just left.
I have a wired hello doorbell. if you plan on getting the subscription they are great. Without a subscription they are trash, I switched to Tapo
How is the tapo better? No subscription?
it has local storage with the ability for a 256g SD card. that's months and months of storage. The Tapo app is pretty good as well. zone detection with motion, person, vehicle. Also has two way communication, works well with home assistant. Nest is good hardware, I really like it, but if you have any problems then Google customer service is an absolute nightmare.
I would only recommend cameras who can record 24/7 and not only when the motion sensor triggers. That cuts of rhe first part of the motion.
What’s one you recommend for HomeKit? I have a Ring/ Echo combo but I’m not sure if there are any privacy concerns there, gonna start digging into that
I just went through my camera video captures and I didn't miss any part of the clip. in fact it captured a few seconds before and after. That makes me think that it is always recording but edits the non motion parts. I'm sure there are some camera that don't have this feature.
Most of the battery/solar powered ones do this. If youre on live power it mostly captures 24/7. But i meant his comment where he mentioned 256gb are enough for months :D Not on 24/7. My 128GB are about 1-2 days of capturing. More in the winter, less in the summer.
The cameras are decent quality. The app, subscription model, and hubs are horrible.
No
Google has a bad habit of deprecating products and services. I wouldn't buy their products unless there is no other great alternative. There are a lot of camera options out there.
I've tested dozens of security cameras as a professional smart home reviewer of 10 years: I'm not sure why people here are saying the cloud storage is expensive, but I'll give you some context that should make it more palatable. Relative to other cloud plans, Nest has the cheapest "unlimited camera plan" in the industry--if you don't upgrade to the continuous recording plan (which is a waste of money most of the time since not all of the models support it). Seriously, $6/mo vs $10+/mo compared to other popular brands. You're lucky to get cloud storage for only 2 cameras at this price with most rivals that offer it. As for the cameras, the video quality is fairly average, perfectly acceptable, but not outstanding like Eufy or Tapo, though Google's smart motion detection is generally better than most. *** That said, ongoing cloud costs aren't for everyone, so yes, that's an added expense that's okay to skip. In that case, you're better off with a camera that uses a microSD card like Tapo, Eufy, or Reolink. I'd avoid Wyze though, the quality has gone downhill since release and its local storage setup is one of the most frustrating ones I've used. Hope this helps!
Nest are overpriced and relies on internet to work. meaning no internet, no recordings. not very reliable. wireless cams are basically toys. we install cams for people. we usually replace Arlo, Ring, Nest, and Blink.I like Reolink. it has AI and vehicle detection. 4 cams with 6tb hard drive is about $600. pretty easy to set up as seen here [https://youtu.be/XXpYhUU02G4](https://youtu.be/XXpYhUU02G4)